How To Beat The Casino: Why Bluff Loses $100,000's To Make Millions

So, what's the craziest thing you've done for money? >> I've done some crazy things. >> NO WAY. NO WAY. WE JUST GOT $45,000. >> I walk through a casino to go get dinner. I cannot walk past that table and not put $100 on it. We're going to play free betjack. >> The offers that I've gotten from these places are so out of this world. It's like, wow. 50 million. This is going to be generational wealth bonus. I guarantee it. And I was like, "Oh my gosh." Like, I didn't know like you can make that much money off of gambling on YouTube. And I thought like it would be banned and everything. How do you make sure you don't get addicted? You're obviously playing a game that is designed to beat you. Down $27,000. I don't even want to talk. >> What's the most you've ever seen someone lose? >> I just watched this guy lose $700,000 the other day. $5,000 a spin. Like this. >> Have you ever seen gambling truly ruin someone's life? >> [music] >> Bobby aka Bluff, you are known for gambling your entire paycheck, crazy amounts of philanthropy, and also your extremely viral content. Thank you so much for coming on the ice coffee hour. >> Thank you for inviting me. >> When was your first time gambling? >> In London when I was 18, 2 days after my birthday, I went to a brewery or a bar, a pub actually is what they call it out there. I went to a pub to have my first legal beer with my friend's dad and they had like one of those. It was like a random I don't know what they call it out there. It's basically like a slot and I played that and lost 50 euro. And was that appealing to you? >> No, it was actually horrible. And then I I like never actually really gambled. Right. So that was just the first time. And then I had I had never gambled after that until maybe I was like 21 in San Diego. I went with like two of my best friends to uh Barona. It's a 18 plus and it's smokefree which is nice. But uh we go there and we're playing roulette. I think I lost like $200. My buddy lost 50. My other friend lost 150 and like it was fun but it was just like ah like $200 takes me like 3 days to make at work. So it's like I don't want to do that. Um, but then you know as I got older and I made a little more money and I would go to the casino and like one day I went there and I I had gotten like a bonus from work and I went to the casino and lost 3,000 and like I don't can't afford to lose 3,000. I was just like, "Oh my god, I was sick to my stomach." But it was just like, "All right, like I'll just do that maybe once a year. I'll just gamble once a year." >> So when did you realize you could turn gambling though into a like a viable business? So, are you guys familiar with Bretzky? >> Mhm. >> So, I used to see him when I would scroll like on TikTok or Instagram. He would randomly pop up. I would never follow him or anything. I don't I don't like follow like celebrities or anything just cuz their lives are so crazy compared to what I was living. But, um I went out to San Diego back in 2024 in April uh on my lady's birthday, which was unfortunate. my one of my best friends was getting married and I stayed at my friend Robbie's house which is a friend that I've known for like 10 years from the scootering stuff and I stayed at his house. He was in the casino affiliate marketing stuff and he had worked with Bretzky and he was actually pretty good friends with him and uh he just I I forget exactly how he was brought up but Bretky was brought up and I was like oh like yeah he's funny like I wonder how he's doing or whatever and Robbie's like oh yeah know he like makes a killing like this is how much he does like this is what he does he does YouTube videos and I was like oh my gosh I didn't know like you can make that much money off of gambling on YouTube and I thought like it would be banned and everything. So he tells me all the logistics and stuff and I was like, "Oh, like I could do that." And he's like, "Oh, you should like I think you should do it." Cuz he Robbie was getting into the casino, the actual casino space, >> starting his own business. >> So, uh, you know, sure enough, like 3 weeks later, I posted my first video gambling, >> eating a cockroach. Actually, now I was eating crickets. >> So, what was your strategy? Because you blew up. You got like 100,000 followers in like 43 days, I believe. >> Yeah. So, from that first conversation until my first video, I basically watched a whole bunch of different creators. Uh, I was watching everyone that was in the gambling space, which wasn't many at the time. I think I got in at the right time, which was uh which helped a lot. Um, but I was watching like the top four or five gambling creators. Uh, and then I would branch out to other um niches like uh like cars cuz I like cars or just normal lifestyle vlog stuff. And I would just see like, you know, when they would post, how often they would post, their thumbnails, their titles, how long the videos are, how do they introduce, like how do they introduce themselves in the videos, what is their catch within the first 3 seconds to keep people watching. And >> then I would just Google a lot of things about, you know, social media and how how like the brain works and algorithms on YouTube. And I I strategized all that together and then I put it in one. And then I just started making my own videos. And I just think what really helped was the timing because not many people were into the gambling space. First off, it's very expensive and if people are doing it, they're older. Um, so when I got into it, I was like one of the younger and I was doing a lot of table games cuz everyone was filming slots, not much table game stuff. And I know there's a huge target audience for that. Uh, cuz I was never into slots. I was always into table games. So, I was trying my hardest to get into the table game stuff as soon as possible, but the stuff before really took off because I was doing like that challenge series that was like really popular and trending at the time where I was betting like 10 cents for every follower that I would get. So, it started off on day one, I had $0 and on day 30, I'm betting like $8,000 or something. I forget exactly the number. But, >> how did you get the money to do that? Initially, >> I when I used to work at the dealership, I was making good money. So, I was saving a lot of my money. My dad was always telling me the the Dave Ramsey thing, like save 30% and whatever. >> So, I had like a pretty good chunk of change saved up. Um, about 200,000. >> So, you were able to stash away quite a bit of cash. >> Yes. >> Okay. And you were using this to fund the YouTube channel. >> Well, I I I stacked up a lot of cash on the side just because like, you know, for a rainy day. >> And so, when you're gambling though, how do you decide how much you're going to play? because 300 could go pretty quickly if you get like on a losing streak. >> It was it was going really quick. The first month it was I was on like a crazy losing streak and I was down like 45,000 in the first month and I was like oh my god. I was like this has to work or I'm screwed. Um and then I had like an upswing which was really nice. I was down I was I think my peak was like 43,000 I was down and then within 3 days I was up 9K. So, I had like some crazy swing back up and then I this is when I was doing that 10-centent series. So, then I told myself I was like, "Okay, like you know, now that I'm in the profit on this series and like I've gained over 100,000 followers and 100,000 subscribers on YouTube, you know, I could start putting my money towards a different aspect. Now that I got like I built like a good following, now I can start using the money to, you know, maybe do the long form stuff cuz I was focused on short form at the time. So basically it came to the point of if I lose on this series I'm gonna stop the series. So if I get into the negative and I got down to like negative 5K and I was like all right like we're done. Like we danced with the devil and we got back and now we're only down 5K and I got 150,000 followers from it and 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. So it just it worked out. I paid 5K for that. If someone wanted to start this challenge now realistically an audience of 100,000 followers that follow you for gambling content that's probably worth like 30,000 bucks a month. I have no idea, but it's probably worth a lot of money. What would like the fair market value be per follower? So, if you're going to pay X amount per follower gained if someone wanted to start this from zero with unlimited bankroll, what amount do you think? Cuz you could probably go higher than 10 cents. >> You probably could >> cuz you need to grow quicker, too. Like 10 cents probably wouldn't grow you too quick either. Like >> Yeah, there I mean there was people at the time that were doing like dollar $5 per. But the issue is that every time someone was doing this, it was all online casino stuff. Oh, you can't trust it. >> Yeah, it's all fake. Like, >> I mean, I'm not going to say it's all fake. I'm like almost positive 99% of it is fake, you know? It's just it's fake currency, basically. >> So, that was another thing that kind of helped me was that series that I was doing was all in person at a real casino. So, like you could see the $8,000 in cash and then like you could see me like the ball spinning and then it landing in red and I bet black and I'm devastated. So, it's like it's a huge difference between the online stuff. But first off, I think if you were to if you were going to start doing the series now, bad idea. It's burnt out and it's not going to work. My that's just my advice. But um I mean you in the gambling space, it's so crazy because like so many of these online casinos offer crazy amounts of money and obviously YouTube RPM is really good. So like you could make more than 30,000 a month with 100,000 followers. So, it's kind of hard to judge it. It really just I don't know. Maybe if if you're looking at it long term, like if you're paying a dollar a follower, like it's >> That's crazy. >> Yeah. >> What are some of the craziest brand deals you've seen for online casinos? >> I've had a a crypto casino reach out to me as of recently and they sent me an email and it was a CEO of the of the company and he said, >> "I want to talk to you. I have an offer. you will not say no to. And I replied back and I said, I don't think you have an amount that I would say yes to. And that was it. >> Were you cur I would just be curious just to see what it is. Like say yeah, but but now you're always going to ruminate be like I wonder how much. >> I I am curious. I I honestly the so it's a crypto casino and those guys like pump money >> and like my audience or my fan base is more valuable than someone that has 3 million followers and they're just a lifestyle, you know, vlogger or whatever because the conversion is just not going to be as high. So like truly my audience is worth a lot, but I would assume it was probably going to be like it's it's probably like 30 million plus a year. >> 30 million a year. >> That's my assumption. Yeah. But that's as credit that you have to play with. >> I'm sure it's a credit portion of it is credit, but a majority of it would be like paid in crypto every month. >> Oh [laughter] my god. >> What's the biggest gambling deal you have ever seen or heard that someone got? >> The biggest one that I've heard of was Drake's for 100 million. >> So that was the official number. >> That was the official number. I don't know how true that is. And then another one is Aiden Ross for 50 million. Yeah, >> I mean it's >> these are crazy numbers cuz when you think that like Spotify would pay 100 million to Joe Rogan for a multi-year exclusive contract and meanwhile online casinos are paying 50 million for just a sponsorship. >> Yeah. I mean just so you guys are aware like we've never seen anything close like in the in the millions. I've never seen anything in the millions for like non-gambling stuff. And it's not even close. And that's annual contracts. That's not like, you know, like per month where a lot of these are like millions a month. It's it's like the jump is it's com it's you can't compare it. >> The gambling space is so crazy cuz like like I've gotten these offers from like crypto casinos, social casinos, uh mystery boxes, whatever it may be. Like um the offers that I've gotten from these places are so out of this world that it's just like so crazy to say no to, but you just know it's not worth it. How do you say no to a deal that's life-changing like that? >> It's it's trust me, it is hard sometimes. Like when if if someone were to offer me $50 million, it's like wow, $50 million, I can retire myself, my family, my ladies family, all my friends that work for me. Like, everyone would be retired. But it's also just like like I don't know. That's it's a little iffy. It's a little sketchy. Is it, you know, it's it's I don't know. It's it's not hard to do it per se. It just like you just know the right answer if you just see yourself as a a a normal human amongst all the other humans, but then you add to the fact that you like you were raised on the floor effectively like you had no bed. Going from that to all of these crazy life events that have turned you exactly into the person you are today. I'm curious how does like just a normal human grapple with all of these like you know being offered millions and millions and millions of dollars from these online casinos. You juxtapose that with growing up on the floor. You juxtapose that with like being like a pro scooter and then like getting fired as a mechanic. Like all of these ups and downs in your life like what keeps you grounded in to be a normal person after all this? >> Um I do a lot of reflecting. I I reflect almost every day. Like it's it's so crazy and like every aspect that I do or every aspect of my life I reflect on. Like I'm bougie with my food now. Like I get organic stuff from Whole Foods, you know, I try to like take care of myself if I'm eating at home. So when I get like this bowl of cereal and you know this box of cereal cost $10 and this milk cost $10 and I'm pouring and I'm like, "All right, this is a $2 bowl of cereal." I look back and reflect on, you know, what it was like as a child because, you know, when I would have cereal as a kid, it would be um Cheerios. Not even Honey Nut Cheerios, you know, it's just Cheerios and then like I would have uh Have you guys ever had powdered milk? >> No. >> Yeah. I would have powdered milk. So, it' be water and like you dump powder in it and it would make it like milk. It's like not milk at all. It's just so crazy to me cuz it's like I can go to the grocery store and I could buy whatever I want, right? I can buy the healthiest, most organic, most expensive food that I want and you know truly it tastes worse than you know some of the cheaper stuff that you get at the store but you know it's healthy for you. So it's I don't know it's it's a lot of the reflecting knowing that you've been at the bottom and you've struggled and then you made it and you just try not to lose your footing basically. One thing I'm really curious about is your entire story is absolutely crazy. It's It's nearly unbelievable. There was something that I heard that you didn't have a bed all the way until 19 years old. >> Yeah, that is that is correct. >> When was the first time you slept on a bed? Running a podcast is a lot more business than people think. From sponsor contracts, invoices, research docs, show notes, it piles up fast. We started using Claude to help handle it. That's why we are so excited to partner with Claude. Claude is the AI for minds that don't stop it good enough. 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That is claude.com/iced coffee and check out Claude Pro which includes access to all of the features mentioned in today's episode. Thanks again to Claude for sponsoring this podcast. And I just got to say, going off script here, I've been using Claude for the last few months, and I absolutely love it. No joke, I use it for a lot of my scripting, a lot of research, a lot of the behind the scenes that people don't see. It probably saves me at minimum like an hour or two a day. So, I highly recommend it. That link is down below. Thank you so much. Let's get back to the episode. When was the first time you slept on a bed? I mean, first time sleeping in a bed traveling probably when I was doing the scootering stuff was 17 and then yeah, about 19 and a half is when I got my first actual bed when I moved out of my dad's house. >> Wait, so what were you sleeping on? >> The floor. >> Why? >> Uh my dad had no money. He didn't really have He didn't have much money. And when I would ask for a bed, this is like obviously yours later on. Like when it first started off as a kid, it wasn't that bad >> cuz you're just a kid and you could sleep anywhere. But uh as I like time went on, I was like 16 or 17 asking for a bed, he was like I mean you've slept on the floor this long. So >> wait. So what was the sleeping arrangement then? Was it just like blankets with a pillow or like what was that like? >> I used to have this sleeping bag and then a pillow. That was it. >> And that was during summer winter and it's like the way that the flooring is set up is just like carpet but it's like 30y old carpet. So it's like there's nothing there. So, >> it's compressed. >> Compressed. Super compressed. Like the padding is compressed. So, I slept in I used to sleep in like this Blues Clues sleeping bag that I had since I was like 7 years old >> all the way up till legitimately 19 years old. >> And when did you realize that wasn't normal? >> Oh god. I I feel like I was pretty self-aware when I was young. >> So, I don't know. I think it was cuz I mean a lot of all my friends had beds. So, I I knew it was it was abnormal when I was a kid, like 10 years old, sleeping on the floor. I'm just curious what stopped you from just because I feel like I see mattresses occasionally just like thrown around. >> They give them away on Facebook. >> Yeah, Facebook Marketplace. Like, you could just pick up a free one on Facebook Marketplace. Facebook Marketplace didn't exist back then. I mean, the space that I slept in, it didn't really have much. I mean, it had enough room for a mattress, but it would take up a majority of the room. And uh there was just like so much stuff in that house cuz my dad was like a hoarder. So, we had like just a bunch of random stuff in there. Old computers, VHS tapes, and like you wouldn't have believed the amount of VHS tapes this guy had. I promise you, it was the craziest thing ever. >> I came home one day and he bought like I'm not even exaggerating, maybe five or 6,000 VHS tapes. >> And so, he would do that, but he would but no bed. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's ridiculous. It's As I grew older, it got to the point where like, oh, like this guy's like actually a scumbag. That's he's just a scum, you know? He's not like a lot of people are like, "Oh, your dad would be very proud of you and everything and I'm just like when they say that I'm just like I literally couldn't care less about what do you think?" >> Well, I'm very glad now knowing that. I mean, you walk in here, you pull up in an Audi R8 [laughter] and like and you're and you're like you're I was telling you I I have a Mazda Miata beater car and you're like, "Wow, I was looking at a super clean one like looked really nice, silver, hard top, everything, but like I have enough cars. I don't need another one." And I'm like, "Really? You have enough cars?" You're like, "Yeah, I actually bought another one today actually." I'm like, dude, like [laughter] you're just spending money. Like, >> but you know what? Like, your dad bought VHS's. You're buying cars. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's It's a crazy like it's it's so crazy. Like, I wake up every day and like I'll say something and it's just like, God, like if I just look back three years ago, like me saying this would just be just out of this world. I would have never expected to say something like that. >> So, how did you get here? Cuz what was it like like going to school? >> I I did elementary school. I went to this place called CH Decker, which was maybe like half mile from my house. half mile to a mile from my house. And uh I did that up until about fourth grade, end of fourth grade. Um maybe a month before I was supposed to graduate. And out of nowhere, randomly, my dad comes to the school. We get called up to the office and my dad just tells us to grab our stuff and we walk out of the school and he's like, "You're never going to the school ever again." And I was like, "Okay, I have no idea what's going on." And then he brings us home and you got to imagine he does this without telling us anything. We don't know what's going on. He brings us hope and he's like, "Yeah, I'm going to homeschool you guys." I was like, "Oh, okay, cool." Like, that's actually sick. Like, I hated school. Like, I would rather do it at home. And then we started doing the homeschooling stuff. Um, that lasted about a month and a half. And then I just never did school ever since then. >> And so, what did it look like every day you would wake up? Pretty much I would wake up at like 6:00 a.m. 6:00 to 7 a.m. and then I would ride my scooter from my house like two miles up to Desert Bree Skatepark and I would spend 12 to 15 hours there a day. >> Wow. Just practicing scootering. >> Yeah. Just riding. I wasn't even practicing. I was just riding. Just having fun cuz I like I couldn't meet anyone. I didn't, you know, didn't go to school. So like the social life is gone. So it's like this is like my new life is like this is my new home basically. >> Is that legal to just like take your kid out of school and now they're just like how does anyone ever track these things like who's showing up to school and who's not? >> There's I don't know the answer to that. But I know there's no way that it is legal to do that for sure. >> My parents always told me if I missed enough school they would throw me in jail. And I think I was young enough to think oh man like I got to go to school. Well, I think I think there's a thing where like you can do the homeschool and like you don't I think you're supposed to keep track of it and submit it to like the county, >> but obviously there's no shot he did that. No. >> Yeah. Not at all. >> Yeah. We never had anyone show up, so I don't know. >> And this is fascinating because you just apparently got extremely good at scootering to the point where you went pro at scootering. Then I'm curious, how did that shift your finances? >> Not much. I mean, it was it was good for me as a teenager cuz I went pro when I was 16. Um, and like I would survive at the skatepark like with no money. I didn't have money to take the bus. I didn't have money to get food. So, I'd like I don't know, people would buy me a sandwich at McDonald's. I probably consumed more McDonald's than anyone on this planet. But, uh, like when I hit 16 and I got I turned professional, I started getting a paycheck, which is really crazy at 16, unless you're working like a part-time job or whatever. Um, I was making $750. But like, you got to think like someone that comes from [clears throat] literally nothing to $750 as a 16-year-old, it's like you like almost feel like you're on top of the world. >> That's per month. >> Per month. Yeah. And then, uh, you know, your travel's paid for, competition entry fees are paid for, your scooters are free. So, it it was like financially, I guess it was like a huge change. I was able to like buy clothes and um you know make sure I was able to eat and drink when I'm at the skatepark all day long and you know I could take the bus to the skate park and you know I'm making $750 a month. I start looking at cars. I'm 16 years old like you can't afford a thing. >> I used to do the same thing is like if I took all the money that I have and everything that I make, what could I afford? >> Yeah. Yeah. I was looking at like so stupid. I'm looking like Audi A4s and they're like $4,000 and I'm like, "Oh, I could get this in like eight months." I'm just like, you're never going to get that car. You can't even afford the insurance. >> And then from there, you were pro at scootering for a while and then you kind of went into being a mechanic. And usually, this is not like a biographical podcast, but your story is just that fascinating where I'm like very curious cuz you kind of alluded to a few things like being a mechanic and having to hop around to a few different shops because I genuinely have no idea why you got fired. I couldn't figure it out online and I I'm dying to know. I got fired twice actually. Um, so the whole shift from the scootering to the mechanic world basically came as I was with an ex and she wanted to live in Vegas but you know riding a scooter and uh I wasn't making enough money to basically afford life unless I was a bum basically. Um so I was like all right I have to get into like getting my first job. Well, technically not my first job, but I had to get into getting a job to afford, you know, an adult life. So, I couldn't afford school. I knew I couldn't go to school because I don't have a diploma. I don't have a GED. I don't have an elementary diploma even. So, uh, my thought process was like, okay, I'm just going to get real world experience at a lube shop, you know, very basic, no experience needed, and you could do oil changes and stuff like that. change fluids on cars. So, I started there. It was called Valvaline. I did that for about 2 years and I got, you know, hands-on experience, basically better than trade school. Learned about cars uh during my off time and then I applied as an apprentice at a dealership here in Vegas and I ended up getting hired, which was awesome. So, I got I got pushed under I was under someone's wing basically at this dealership and they're teaching me about the cars and how to replace all these parts. And you know, the mechanic industry is a little I think it's shady personally. >> You don't get paid hourly. You get paid a flat rate system. So, if you come in with your BMW and your water pump is leaking and your car is under warranty um in, you know, the you're not going to pay a dime. You bring the car in, we do the diagnostic, we replace the part. BMW has a book that says how much you'll get paid for replacing this part. And let's just say it'll be 2 hours. You'll get 2 hours to replace this part. If it takes you 10 hours, you only get 2 hours. If it takes you 30 minutes, you get 2 hours. So, in some sense it works, some sense it doesn't. But almost every single time when a car is under warranty and they say it's going to take you 2 hours, it'll take you 3 hours or 4 hours. It's like it's so hard to beat it unless you do all these crazy like shortcuts and, you know, find different things to spruc up your story and make more money. [snorts] >> What about upcharging like the classic middle-aged woman who goes to the mechanic to get something simple fixed, she ends up getting sold on a million other things and upcharged like crazy. Is this true? I'm I'm sure it's it's true in some sense, but typically when you bring your car into a dealership, you know, you get an inspection and nowadays people are getting videos from their mechanic that are show showcasing all the things that are wrong with their car. And most of the times, like a lot of the things you don't really have to replace. Like you can live your life and it'll be fine. But we are supposed to protect ourselves from, you know, our boss. Like if if you were to take your car and I told you, "Oh, you need to you need to replace this part," but you were like, "Oh, I just took this into another shop," and they didn't say anything about it, then if that lady ends up complaining to the first shop, that technician is the one that bites the bullet, you know? So, you have to like basically look at everything. Even if it's like on the way out or you don't need to replace it, it's not like that detrimental, but it's torn a little bit and you don't mention it, then that's on you and you take the liability. So, the air filters, if you go in to get an oil change and they say you need a new air filter, is that true? >> Uh, for the most part, yeah. I mean, they they shouldn't lie about an air filter. It's only like $20. >> I feel like every single time, every time I go in, I could drive in with a Tesla to get an oil change. And they be like, "Yeah, your oil looks fine, but you need a new like air filter." I'm like, "Oh my gosh." Like, I swear >> you're going to die if you don't. >> And I always go, "Do I need it?" And they go, "Well, [laughter] you know, >> it's like, oh, how much is it?" $300. >> Yeah. A lot of the times the air filters, they do upcharge a a buttload on them, which doesn't >> all you do is just like >> Yeah, you just replace the filter. It's really not that hard. Sometimes there's a couple screws and bolts. I mean, there are some cars that are like it is a pain to replace, but uh for the most part, it's a couple screws and you just swap it out. >> Final car question because you're not technically a car YouTuber, but I'm just so curious. What is the best car to work on and the worst car to work on? >> Oh god. >> Like I I know Volvos are very compact. like they suck to work on. Something that's easy, you know? >> Um I think the best car to work on would be like a Toyota or a Honda cuz they're very easy easy to do. There's a lot of space in there typically and to replace a thing like if you need to replace a motor, it's way faster than anything else. Um I haven't worked on a ton of different brands. I've done like BMW and Jaguar and a couple like off-brand stuff here. The Range Rovers and the Jaguars are hands down what I've heard the worst cars to work on. Hands down. >> Interesting. >> First off, they're the most unreliable. At least they were. I know. I know nowadays they actually are like top 10, I think, and most reliable, which is crazy. >> And then uh there's no space to work on them. And to replace one thing, you literally have to replace you have to remove the engine. It's just so stupid. >> So, explain how did you get fired twice as a mechanic? M [clears throat] okay. So this is the whole scenario where I was telling you about how warranty doesn't pay much. >> So you'd come up with, you know, you'd make up these stories and you know, let's say [snorts] someone's massaging seat wasn't working and then you find that a fuse is blown and you know, you get paid nothing. You you'll make literally nothing, right? And it takes you 30 minutes maybe with some paperwork, a little extra, whatever. Um, you know, instead of saying, "Oh, just the fuse blown." Well, all right. The wiring harness was chafing and I had to trace I had to do, you know, I had to uh check continuity. I I've traced the the break in the wire harness here. I removed the seat. I repaired the wire harness. And then you make two and a half hours or whatever you may make. Um, which is 100% it's called warranty fraud is what it is. You're basically defrauding the warranty system and saying you're >> the customer doesn't pay. Exactly. Exactly. I would never do it. You did nearly exactly what I just asked of people do. >> Yes. Well, no, no, no. Not to a customer, though. There's no way. I would never ever do that to a customer because >> the warranty company, the warranty. >> Yeah. >> Cuz you got to imagine like every single day you go to the shop and you're just getting shafted, shafted, shafted on every single job. >> Going to even it out a little bit. That's tilt the odds. >> So, basically all it was was a fuse and you just replaced the fuse, but you said you did all of this other stuff. >> That's not what I did, but yeah. It's It's kind of like allegedly. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's It's basically like saying what I got fired for was saying, "I replaced this part, but I did not replace it." Right. And how did they find that out? This episode is in partnership with Airbnb. Graham and I are literally always traveling for the podcast. And in fact, these past few weeks have been very brutal. We have worked so much, but there is light at the end of the tunnel. I'm actually going to both Thailand and Japan for the next 3 weeks with a couple close friends. I cannot tell you how excited I am for that. The beaches in Thailand to die for. The food in Thailand, amazing. And I'm telling you, it's going to be a blast. If you travel a bunch, you probably don't think twice about your home sitting empty. 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And like they had me take the timing chains off, ret time the whole thing, replace engine harness, do all this stuff. And like realistically, I was probably like 60 hours into this car and I was probably making 28 hours or something. So I said that I change one of the cam shafts or one of the solenoids, the VCT solenoids, and I did not. >> And you got caught. >> Yeah. Yeah. There was a foreman that knew that I didn't do it. >> Let's just say you have a hypothetical situation where you take an exact copy of this world, exact copy of you. How many times did this exact copy of you get away with this compared to the two times you didn't? >> Oh god. I mean, I'm very honest. It's probably over 200. Probably more. >> So it's worth it. Yeah. No, that was an easy. Yeah, [laughter] it was easy. I would never do it to like a paying customer because like I just like I mean I have I have morals of course, but like I would never do it to someone that's actually using their hard-earned money to like pay for that. But for a warranty company that just shafts you every single day, like you have to you have to make it work. It's just there's you have to like even the playing field, level the playing field. >> I hate warranty companies. I've had two experiences. One was with my wife's Audi, took it in for warranty work, and it was very clearly a warranty problem. They came back with a repair bill that was worth more than the car costs. >> Yeah. >> Which is crazy. And then guess what? They offered to buy it back. >> Of course they did. Yeah. >> Apply it to [clears throat] a new car. >> Got to love the dealerships, man. >> The other ripoff is the home warranty scams where they say, "Oh, for $1,000, we'll cover your entire house." Good luck ever getting something fixed. I had a dishwasher immediately broke. Well, guess what? I pay a $75 call fee. They don't tell you. That's not part of the warranty. 75 bucks. Then their warranty company comes in, which takes days to come in, by the way. And then they say, "Oh, it's actually not this warranty part. It's something else." And that's normal wear and tear. And that's going to be triple the cost of again what it would cost new. >> Yeah. >> Ripoff. I've never seen a home warranty actually fix anything. Ever in my entire 15 plus years in real estate. Not once have I seen a home warranty company like actually replace an AC, a refrigerator, any Never. >> It's actually so funny cuz I just bought a home warranty. >> Take the cash. Always take the cash cuz I promise you just as an experiment, try calling them out. >> Yeah. >> Just just for fun and just see how much money they quote you for the scene. It's it's awful. >> It it's the exact same thing in the auto industry. It's just it's it's all a sham. I mean, there are some extended warranties like in the auto industry that are actually really good. Like the CarMax is like really really good, >> but everything else is just like it's all a sham. It's >> You got to think that's how they make their money. >> So, what's the craziest thing you've done for money? >> I've done some crazy things. I ate a hissing cockroach. I tried to eat a hissing cockroach. I should say that. I did not eat it. >> Was it alive? >> It was alive. How do you get one to begin with? >> Um, my buddy got it for me. I don't know where. I think he got it in like a reptile store >> cuz they feed it or like people had those as pets. >> They do, >> which is weird. A cockroach as a pet. >> Yeah. This is I actually did this because I started Bluff. I had just started Bluff. That was my second video. I was trying to like do things that were like different in the gambling space and then I was eating bugs to like introduce Bluff and it was just not the right idea. So, on the topic of ups and downs, we spoke to Togei. And I asked Toi about dopamine because gambling is one of those things that spikes your dopamine, which is effectively like your excitement, your motivation to do something, and then it completely flattens it and then spikes it and flattens it. Do you think that you've experienced some form of like extreme dopamine dosing? Do you think you need a detox? Like, how has this affected you in like other areas of life? Are you just like bored by most things? >> I think No, I think you I think you're more right than wrong for sure. I I don't know how you do like a dopamine detox, but I mean I could definitely see how that would affect people. And I I'm sure it's affected me. Like I'm almost positive just saying like like the whole car thing. Like I just don't feel like like when I would get a new car when I was, you know, years ago before Bluff, um I would get a new car and I was like excited and I just wanted to drive and like that's all I wanted to do. And now like I get a new car and it's like I'll drive it and I'm like enjoying and having fun, but I just don't feel like that like accomplishment, you know? It's it's weird. It could be compartmentalizing your life. So like [clears throat] obviously you need to be gambling and stuff for like your source of income and work, but then outside of that maybe you try for like a month or two to drive a beater car, you know, that just has like functioning AC and then you put your phone in black and white and you like basically like make your life a little bit more boring outside of the compartmentalized like area of work. But this is just me like coming up with >> Yeah. No, I mean I think that's a really good idea. It's kind of like bringing yourself back down to like, you know, reality instead of just like this whole crazy social media lifestyle. I think I might actually do something like that. >> So, in terms of gambling, what's the most you've won and lost? >> The most I've won in a day was 100,000 by myself. I won 100,000. Actually, it was 98,500. And the most I lost was how much was the most I lost? Maybe 80, I think. Did I lose more than 80? I think it was about 80,000. >> What felt more intense, making 100,000 or losing 80? >> Making it was that feeling of making 80,000 or 100,000 was like I can't even compare it to anything. It was so crazy >> how that happened. >> Um, I lost. So, I do that uh series where I gamble like one video's revenue worth and I call it gambling my paycheck. And if I don't double it, I let the audience choose a punishment in the comment section. So, whoever has the most likes, um, I fail to double it. And then the most the highest like comment was, um, take my win loss statement from Elcortez last year. Whatever I was down, I had to win it back with that amount. So, I think I had I had lost 144,000 in the last year. So, I took 144,000 to the casino and had to go to a different casino because the limits were too low at Elcortez and I went out with I only used like 40,000 maybe 50,000 and I won 98,000 off of that. I was playing craps. So, I went on like a really good roll at the craps table and then I played like a one bck hand and had like a crazy huge win where I bet like 25,000 150 and I was like, "Yeah, screw it. I'm done." Like I was just like I'm not even going to keep chasing it because like if I just lose this 100,000 like I'm just going to be devastated and like yeah my dopamine is going to be at the complete pit. So it's like I'm just going to take the 100,000 I'm just going to walk away. I actually like that cuz I watched that video and I was rooting for you and >> that was one of the few times I've seen a creator say, "Hey look, if this is the punishment, I'm going to do it." And you like half did it. Like you gambled a lot. You didn't gamble the max amount. You didn't double it which you were supposed to do by the top comment, but you're just like, "Hey, look." Like, and it was a very humanizing moment cuz I'm like, dude, I see this guy for a guy who's stoked he made all this money. I get it. Like, don't but like I get it. And so, I don't blame him for wanting to call it quits. Like, did did you experience any hate for going back on your on your word for that or I don't think I experienced anything. Most of the time, luckily, my audience is like so heartwarming and like loyal and supportive that I'll like if I would have continued and like let's say I lost that 98,000 and then lost 144,000 that I had started with, they would have said, "You were so dumb. Like, why didn't you just take it when you were at 98,000 like you don't have to go all the way?" Like, everyone is like super supportive of me, which is super cool to see. And I could like truly feel the love through the comment section. But yeah, everyone like when I cashed out the 98,000, everyone was like, "Good idea." Like, "I'm so glad you took that and you didn't continue going." Like, "We don't care about the punishment." Like, you know, we just want you to win. That's all they care about. Literally, every video it's like, "We just want you to win. We hate seeing you lose." So, um, I knew when I was stopping halfway that I didn't complete the punishment, but I was just like I just I already know like the audience is going to be okay with it because first off, we won 100,000 and like, you know, we we didn't push the limits too far. >> What's the biggest win you've ever seen in person? >> I walked past someone in a casino and they hit a grand and it was like 280,000. So, that was the most I've seen and I can only imagine the dopamine they got from that. >> Yeah. So, when you go to a casino, is there any trick to figure out which machines pay out the most? >> There's this world of AP slot players, which like I think in long term isn't really going to last that long. And like there's certain machines that have like a must-hit buy and whatnot. I guess you can get lucky with that, but you also will are you you you are gambling. You know, you're you're going to go against the odds. So, sure, there's maybe a certain amount of time that that'll that'll work, but no, there's no trick to it. It's it's all computer algorithms and getting lucky and showing them at the right time and hitting their button at the right second. It's it's all randomized. >> So, is there any way to beat the casino? There is technically if you're counting cards playing blackjack and if well technically you can't do it with poker but if you're counting cards with blackjack which is why most casinos ban counting cards um and kick you out but there there you could get a a slight edge playing blackjack if you're counting cards and you could beat the casino long term but it's you're you're struggling with being able to stay in the casino playing. >> Yeah. >> Have you ever seen someone get kicked out for counting? >> Oh god. Yeah. Every day. Every day. Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Every day. Counting is like a huge community. >> What's the tell? How do they get caught? >> Um uh bet variance. So if they're playing blackjack and you know they have $3,000 in blacks and $500 in greens and they're betting $25 hands, >> the count's low and then the count's high, they do a,000 and then they win and then they go back down to 25. You know, it's they they change their bet sizing depending on the count. So, if the count's uh high, you know, positive, that means there's a lot of face cards that are still in that deck. So, they start betting high. >> But obviously, you're still, you know, do you know how to count cards? I do not know. I truly I do not. I barely know how to account. [laughter] >> Is there any way that someone would be able to get away with counting cards? Yes, I there are people that do, but because of the way it works and how much you have to change your your bet sizing with the variance, it's hard to stay undercover. But there are some casinos that don't mind it. Like in California, I believe, actually, I think they just got rid of blackjack and card rooms. But typically in a card room, there's the casino where they're the dealer and then there's a third party that's a banker. And that's how they got around like the the casino law. So the casino doesn't care if you count cards because they're just making a commission or they're splitting percentages or whatever. Just a banker would have an issue, but they can't do anything about it. >> Got it. So is it ever profitable to go to the casino for the average person? >> No. God, no. No. You'll you'll lose. >> There's no profitable strategy ever. >> No. Unless you somehow win one time you play and then walk away forever. What do you think about Mickey Mazize who says that he has a strategy for Bakar? >> Yeah. Doesn't exist. It's funny. I actually met him right before he started all of his social stuff. Right before he started it. >> Where'd you meet him? >> Uh at uh right across the street actually. Right down the street >> from here. Just funny enough. At a park. >> At a park. >> Yeah. So I was uh it was during co >> Yeah. And uh uh all of our all of us we were riding scooters and bikes and stuff and we'd go to like you know a park if there was like a street spot there basically that we'd all ride like a stair set with a rail and everything and yeah out of nowhere this guy shows up and you know he's all tatted up and I don't have any issues with Mickey at all. Um he shows up and someone was telling me he's like a huge high limit gambler. I was like oh that's cool. Well, he did not have social media at all at this time and yeah, within like a month he had started up his Instagram and everyone's sharing them and he's doing all these videos talking about, you know, High BR. He won 11 million. Now, I have someone I do know my friend has actually uh worked on Mickey's team and a lot of those stories are true. Like he did win $1 million and he did do this and he did do that. But, you know, you don't get banned from casinos for winning. Nobody's going to ban you for winning unless you're counting cards, right? Nobody's going to ban you from winning. They're going to ban you because you're a jerk. You're you're, you know, your manners are whatever. You're you're a dick. That's what I'm going to say. If you treat the staff like a dick, or if you treat their property like trash, they're going to kick you out and they're going to ban you. You're not going to get banned for winning. They want you to come back in because they have the edge long-term. They want their money back. So, yeah, that's the only way you get banned from properties. And then, uh, you know, the Bakarat strategy just doesn't exist. If if you know do you know guys do you guys know how Bakra works? >> Yes. >> There's no strategy. You can't make a strategy. There's it's impossible. You can't tell what card is going to come next. >> Could you try counting cards in Bakra or No, it's too many. >> You technically I guess you could, but there's so many decks. There's eight decks and I guess there's like some sort of math that you could do, but um you also most of the times you don't know. You know, they do a burn card and then they burn so many cards that you can't see. Um, yeah, it's it's I'm sure maybe, but it's not realistic, I think. >> So, what's the most you've ever seen someone lose? >> I just watched this guy lose $700,000 the other day. >> What happened? >> Some multi-gajillionaire from Texas playing slots. >> Slots. >> Fast spins. 5,000. $5,000 a spin like this. >> Wouldn't even wouldn't wouldn't hit it and then watch it. He would fasten like this. It was crazy. How do you know that he was like this wealthy guy from Texas? >> Oh, cuz he has like an Instagram and he like talks about it and stuff. >> See, that is a person that [laughter] has no dopamine. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> If something happens, like, let's just say his house floods, then he's just like, "Oh, yeah, whatever." It's just four spins on, you know, this slot machine. It doesn't matter. If something incredible happens to him, it's like, "Well, how can he compare that?" Like his like, "I got an A on my report." And he's like, "Yeah, well, I just made $3 million in two spins." It's like there's just no coming back from that. >> Crazy. Yeah. And like I've heard a story of like this guy lost 3 million in 30 minutes playing slots. >> So how would you then recommend someone let's say gamble responsibly or is there no gambling that No, no, no. I think I mean you could definitely I think gambling is a good like hobby. Not hobby uh is a good outing, right? Like if you want to go out and gamble with your friends or whatever, there's there's definitely responsible ways to do it. The way I always say, and I say this in my videos, I say it on my stories everywhere because I want people to do it responsibly. Treat it as like entertainment. If you're going to go watch a movie and you know the ticket cost is $25 and you know you're going to buy popcorn and a drink that's $25 and you know maybe you're going to buy a slushie that's 10 bucks. So you're going to spend $60 at the movie theater, right? You're not going to go over budget. Go to the casino. All right. like I'm gonna take this $100 bill or I'm gonna take this $50 bill and I'm going to do 20 cent spins, whatever. I'm not gonna, you know, bring my credit card in. I'm not going to bring my debit card in. I'm not going to bring any extra cash in. I'm going to go in there and I'm going to play for 30 minutes. I'm going to have fun for 30 minutes. If I win anything, good. That's awesome. If I lose, I had fun. I got to play slots for 30 minutes or I got to play blackjack for 30 minutes. How many people could do that effectively, though? Because I do see a lot of people who go in with the mindset of, "Hey, I brought $100 for entertainment." They lose it and then they say, "Let me just bet another hundred to win it back." And they lose that and be like, "Oh, I really needed that extra hundred. So now I'm going to do another hundred to try to win back that 100." And then maybe they win it and maybe they don't. And they're like, "Oh, now I'm down three. Let me do a little more." And then all of a sudden, you know, they're just like betting everything in this hole. Honestly, I I preach it because I know the vast majority of people can't do that. I know it. And um like even for myself, there's there's times where I've caught myself where I lose control. But um everyone is basically, you know, obviously in control of their own lives. Like like personally for me, I grew up at a skatepark and you can only imagine the type of things that have gone on at the skatepark. I've never once smoked weed. I've never once smoked a cigarette. I've never, you know, I didn't drink until I was 18 and I took a sip of beer and I hated it. So, you know, growing up at a skate park, never smoking weed, like the self-control and the pure pressure that you have to battle basically is is pretty immense. >> So, it's it's all in the self-control area, but obviously in a casino, the flashing lights and, you know, everyone winning money and you see dollar signs everywhere and these big grand jackpots that are saying 250,000. It's it it's really hard to go in there and say, "All right, I'm only going to do $50." That's why I I suggest like, you know, leave your wallet at home or in the car and give yourself maybe set a timer. You know, you're in there for 50 30 minutes or an hour depending on your budget, whatever it may be. Obviously, you could just lose everything in 10 minutes, but it's it's definitely I I don't even know what to compare it to. It's like a kid at an arcade, you How do you make sure you don't get addicted or that other people don't get addicted to it? >> You got to look at the losers more than the winners. That's how you determine gambling, right? You know, I've lost eight times out of the last 10. Why the hell do I want to keep doing this every single day and like taking my paycheck and trying to win money? It's just not going to work in the long run. So, you got to look, this is like the only time where I say you got to look at the negatives more than the positives so you don't fall into that pit. But why do you think so many people fall into that gambling addiction? >> What do you think about >> it's that uh like I said, it's the flashing lights, the numbers, the bonuses, the the sound effects, the graphics on these machines. You got to think all these companies that make the slots, right? And this is targeted at slots and not table games because they can only do so much on the table. All these companies that made these slots, they know how the human mind works, how the brain works, what triggers, what colors, just like McDonald's, right? like they they use red and yellow because it makes you feel a type of way. These these slot manufacturers know exactly what colors to use, what graphics and what animations to do to attract you to come try this new machine or try this slot. And you know, obviously right at the top of it, it says grand jackpot, $250,000. Like it it I could see why people get into it, but it's also just a losing game. Are you ever worried about gambling too much? >> When I first started Bluff, >> I definitely was gambling way too much off camera on C. Well, on camera I obviously it was good cuz I was making content, but I was gambling a lot off camera. >> Like cuz I I was new to it, you know, like I wasn't gambling so much and I was just learning all these new games. >> So I was gambling a lot off camera and I was losing a lot off camera. But now as I've progressed and it's been over a little over two years now since I've started um you know I film the videos, I get my dopamine filming the videos and then you know maybe sometimes you know once a month or two times a month I'll go and have fun with friends at the casino and you know gamble a couple thousand dollars. Nothing compared to like what I'm doing in my videos just because I know like all right this is for fun. Like I'm not going to make any money off of this. like I don't want to lose $5,000 and this could have been a video and I could have recouped some money from YouTube revenue and stuff like that. >> Yeah. >> So, it's more so nowadays it's like all right like I get my entertainment my fix while I'm filming at the same time >> if that makes sense. >> Are you that sounds that sounds like an addict though I get my fix. [laughter] >> I know that's how I get doing I mean come on man >> that's how [laughter] I do it. Are you ever worried about glamorizing gambling to this degree? >> Um, there are a lot of people that do say like, oh, like you're promoting gambling and all this stuff. I mean, I guess there is like an issue of that 100%. But I'm not trying to glamorize like degenerate gambling and like I guess it kind of looks like I am because I'm like gambling my paycheck and stuff, but like I I try to be very very uh uh stern in my videos where I say like I can afford to do this. Like this is entertainment. Do not do what I do. Just sit there and watch me gamble. You guys do not have to gamble. All this other stuff. Um, so I really do try to promote responsible gambling because you you got to treat it like a kid at an arcade, right? You know, you give your kid 20 bucks like, "Oh, you use your 20 bucks like you're done. Sorry, buddy." You know? Um, another thing is that like I'm from Vegas, so it's so normal to me that and like everyone comes to Vegas to gamble. So like gambling is not like a new thing. Gambling has been around for years, years and years and years and it's going to stay around for years and years and years. So, like I don't think I'm glamorizing it per se. I am promoting it for sure. I'm I'm not going to knock that because, you know, it's me making YouTube videos gambling, but I I want to say I'm more so glamorizing like responsible gambling. >> How does that differ from sports betting? >> I mean, sports betting is definitely gambling. There's no difference. No difference at all. you I mean you're betting on you're betting on other people which I I don't sports bet because I don't want to put my money on other people if that makes sense you know like you you don't know if people could rig things and it's it's you know I'd rather dump my money >> sometimes it feels like it is rigged I'll tell you it's always right on the line they threw that that was terrible it kicked it off into nowhere >> I mean you would never know >> but there are people that have gotten caught you know that are professional athletes and they got paid you know a chunk of change which isn't even anything worth what they're getting paid to throw a game. >> Yeah. Have you ever seen gambling truly ruin someone's life? >> Oh yeah, my dad. Yeah, my dad's life was ruined. He uh all this came to light after he passed away. So back in like 88 or ' 87, I used to have the newspaper article, but he had hit like a $120,000 keynote jackpot. And um you know he would always tell me these stories, tell me and my sister these stories about him gambling and he oh like I know how to beat this and all you know a real addiction you know a real thing that someone would say and uh he won $120,000 jackpot on Kino. He ended up buying our house with it and he bought like a a car and whatnot. Um, and you know, as we're growing up, for some reason, the house isn't paid off and you know, he's struggling to pay the mortgage and whatnot cuz he was on disability from the VA. So, he's making like 30,000 a month or I'm sorry, a year. [laughter] >> I'm not go to the >> He's making 30,000 a month and I'm sleeping on the floor and we're fighting. >> Um, so he's making 30,000 a year, which like realistically isn't much money. Um, so when he passes away, we, you know, start digging into his finances and digging into the the house and the mortgage loan and everything and, you know, he owes the house was $80,000 when he bought it and he somehow owes $70,000. So, we're like, "Oh, what the hell's going on?" Like, he must have taken a helock out, you know? He he's mentioned he's taking out like a a second mortgage or whatever when he was with my mom like traveling to the Philippines and stuff like that and giving money to like her family. So, we knew he took a second mortgage out, but when we really dug into it, he had taken like I I don't know how many loans against his house. So, he owed I think it was like 67,000 on the mortgage and then there was like another hidden uh heliloc for 53,000 and I think there was one more for like 30 something,000 and I'm like what the hell is going on this $80,000 house he had $200,000 against it. It was and we came to the conclusion we found out when he took those loans and it was all during the time he was gambling. So, I think he like that dopamine got him when he got the 120k jackpot and then he just like continued on and just kept trying. >> How do you make sure how do you make sure that doesn't happen to you? >> Um, it's it goes back to the looking at the negatives, right? It this is the only aspect or this is the only niche or hobby whatever that you really have to look at the negatives and that's what it deters you. You know, I I go into the casino and like let's say I film like an extravagant video where I gamble 20,000 and I lose the 20,000 and even though it's for a video and I like I know I'm probably going to lose and I end up losing, I'm like disgusted with myself and I remember how I feel and I'm just like, yeah, like I don't ever want to feel this ever again. Like why the hell am I going to go do this? But like obviously I have to do it for a video which I don't mind. But you know on my own personal time like I'm just like yeah I do not want to feel like that. I would feel even worse if I did that not filming it. >> What do you think is your lifetime profit and loss? >> Oh my god. >> If you were to guess >> I have to be down like god I don't even know. I'd have to be down at least and it's only been two years. I'd probably say somewhere over 750,000. >> That much? >> I think so. >> What do you think your total coin in is? >> Oh my. >> Do you remember that doctor's appointment you were supposed to make a while ago? The one that's been sitting on your to-do list for weeks, maybe months? Maybe it was that overdue annual checkup, the weird rash you keep googling, or it's your dentist reminding you it's been 2 years since your last dental cleaning. Trust me, we've all been there. Booking a doctor's appointment has always felt like such a hassle until now. 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Has to be. >> But I take it you're up obviously significantly from all the revenue and everything that you bring in. 750 is just the cost of doing business, >> of course. And that's that's what I look at it as, you know, cost of doing business. If I lose 20,000, it's like, all right, well, that sucks. And then the next day I win 20,000. It's like, oh, cool. Broke even made two videos for free. >> Yeah. >> And then you make the ad revenue and merch sales and whatever. >> In fairness, I see a lot of YouTube channels where they would spend that in a year in production. >> Yeah. >> Warehouse expense, travel, set design, >> but for you, it's uh, you know, the casino. What sort of benefits do you get from gambling and losing $750,000? >> Um, free rooms, free food. I don't know the last time I paid for a dinner at a hotel or a casino legitimately, you know. And uh, you know, they'll offer you free tickets to concerts and shows and uh, you know, if you gamble enough, like you'll fly private and I've never done that. >> Well, I've flown private. >> Yeah. >> On someone else's tab. Yeah. But um >> what's the craziest comp you've gotten? >> I've gotten so I went to Atlantis uh back in January for like a trip with my girlfriend and then one of my best friends and his girlfriend. Uh they comped us like a double suite and all the food and all the drinks and everything that we ever wanted. It was like $38,000 worth of comps. Crazy. And I lost $35,000 on that trip. >> There you go. [laughter] Exactly. Hey, they got their money's worth out of me. >> So, when we were talking to Vegas Matt, he was saying that certain slot machines you can play profitably when you look at the comps they give back. So, if you lose a,000, it is possible to make back $1,01 in casino free food, drinks, experiences. >> Yeah. How do you do that? I mean, I guess there is a way to do that if if you look at it as profit, but I mean, like, for me, it's like, okay, you could spend $1,000 on the food or you could spend $1,000 and hope you get that food for free. It's, you know, it's like a weird gray area on that. But, you know, if if you look at it as, okay, I'm going to spend $1,000 on this slot machine, you know, maybe you take advantage of the days where they offer like 10 times points and stuff like that, and maybe you get lucky with a couple bonuses, so you actually play for like two hours on $1,000. >> Your your Theo, which is where they base your comps, your theoretical loss, >> is going to be higher if you get like on a lucky streak. So, that's where like those comps would come in. Um, but still like if you're gonna do that just to get comps, it you might as well just buy it, you know? >> Yeah. >> But if you're trying to get entertainment and then a comp after, I guess it makes sense. >> Yeah. So, I'll tell you my casino hack is I go to this spot and they have incredible drinks. Incredible. I'm talking the drinks are like $30 each. But if you sit down at one of the tables, immediately someone walks over to you and says, "Hey, do you want a drink?" And I know those are $30 drinks. And so I always play blackjack or bakar knowing that the house edge on that is like, you know, half a percent give or take. And so I'm like, if I bet uh $50 a hand, I walk in with like 200 bucks and I'm betting 50 a hand. I'm like, each one of those hands is only 25. So I'm paying, you know, over four hands. Really, when you average it out long term, I'm really only betting $2. I'm losing $2, let's just say, but I get a $30 drink. Mhm. >> And so I'm like, I gladly spend $2 for the $30 drink. And then I get the $30 drink for $2. And overall, I have to say, cuz I've been keeping track, I am up. I've made money so far with those drinks. >> You're one of the lucky profitable gamblers. >> My entire my entire gambling strategy is really simple. The most I will ever bet ever is >> [clears throat] >> $300 ever. Usually I stick with 200. If I lose the 200, I walk away no matter what. And I also and I also always walk away if I double. So if the 200 turns to 400, I'm done. As soon as I hit that, I walk away and I stick with that. >> Have you ever triple dip? No, I'm just kidding. >> No, [laughter] no, no, no. Every every time I hit every single time I double, I'm like, I'm done. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, that's good. >> And then what I do sometimes if I bet 200, but I'm up a hundred, then I put the original 200 aside back in my pocket, and then I play with the 100. And then if I lose the hundred, then I'm like, "All right, well, now I'm even." >> Yeah, >> that's always the strategy. >> I mean, that's a good way to look at it. the there's another way that I look at things and this is in every aspect of my life, especially when I used to work like a normal job, right? Um and I tell this to people when there's like they'll come up to me and they say, "Hey, I'm up $200. Like, what should I do?" >> And I'll say, "How long does it take you to make that $200?" You know, what do you get paid an hour? Do you make $20 an hour? That's going to take you 10 hours of work. Are you willing to lose that 200 that you just made in 30 seconds to possibly make another 200 or just lose that instantly and then you have to go to work for 10 hours to make that back? So I I look at like time, you know, the time it takes to make that money. I don't maybe that's another way that people can use to, you know, maybe determine gambling. Let's just say hypothetically speaking, Graham is worth $1,000 an hour. Now, how do you feel when he says that he sits down at a blackjack table to try to finagle a drink and get the cost down on the [clears throat] drink maybe to like 10 bucks per drink instead of $30 a drink and he's doing all this mental gymnastics? What do you think of when you hear about that? If his time is worth $1,000 now. >> Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm not the person to knock anyone for trying to save money. I think if like if you know there's times where I go to, you know, Whole Foods and it's truly it's not worth it for me to pull out my phone, pull out the Amazon app and get the QR code and scan it to get $2 off. But I do it because I save $2. So I don't just because you you're worth this much an hour, I don't think, you know, trying to save money is a bad idea. I think you should save money no matter what. Why Why let this business make an extra $2 off of you? I would say you should save money matter some you know like I would say no matter what because if it takes you >> for me dude for me it's I am addicted to the thrill of getting a deal and I actually agree with you. Yeah. >> Yeah. That feeling man I that I found never goes away. When I buy something and I got a deal on it every single time I I I see it I think oh man I got a deal on that and it I get the same feeling. Here's years later like like that Oyster Quartz I keep looking at every day. I'm like I got a great deal on that. [laughter] But that makes me happy. >> So I I agree with you but just because it's a deal doesn't make it a good >> is what I try to like think of. And so like if I go to the grocery store and the eggs that I would normally buy are $2 with a coupon, I'm stoked when I do that and I will still do it to save a dollar or two, right? But if there's something that like I wasn't going to buy anyways, or like a drink that says that it's a hundred, let's just call it a $100 drink and they give it to me for $30. It's like, would I have paid $30 for this drink knowing this drink cost $30? Well, what if I knew it cost $10? Would I have paid $30 for this to have this drink? That's where I try to like like what is the value to me, not what do they claim the value is? >> Yeah, I agree with that. I I I don't I don't struggle, but I argue with that with my lady all the time. She's like, "Oh, I bought this. They were on sale." channels like like on Amazon. I don't know if you guys want me to name drops, but >> um you know online >> competes with our our other >> Okay. Okay, I'll stop saying >> I'm kidding. I'm kidding. [laughter] >> Yeah. Um you know online, oh this one is actually 30% off today and you know you you look a week later or a month later and it's still 30% off. >> That's what Black Friday sales are. >> It's exactly the price. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's that's actually a common thing that I've seen online. They actually increased and it was more than it was before Black Friday happened. >> Okay, so I have to ask you this question because I asked Matt this and it was a very funny response. Are you addicted to gambling? >> Probably. Yeah, probably. >> How do you know? Like I I can't. It's And you know I tell my girl that I'm not addicted to gambling. I sw like I swear all my life that I'm not addicted to gambling. But like I walk through a casino and I do it every day. I gamble every single day. I will walk through a casino to go get dinner right with my lady. I cannot walk past that table and not put $100 on it. >> Have you tried? >> Yeah. What happens? >> I just like want to go do it very bad and then I'll go do it after dinner if I don't do it before. >> Why can't you challenge yourself for one time? Go out to dinner at a casino and do not gamble just to see if you'd be able to do it. because I don't want it. [laughter] No, I think uh it's I don't know if it's one time nothing by one time. >> It's not even like the money, right? Like I'll bet a $100 hand and like if I lose it's like oh like oh well but if I win it's like yeah like that was worth it, you know? That's why like yeah I'm definitely addicted. I have to be. There's no way I'm not addicted to the game. Like at least I can admit it. But but you don't have a desire to challenge yourself to see if you could walk through a casino without gambling. >> I'll try it next time for you and I'll let you know. >> What if we have a side bet going on whether or not you could do it? And if you don't >> That's gambling. >> But it's not. >> So you're making me gamble then I won't [laughter] gamble. >> What is this? >> Yeah, >> but we could bet on whether or not. It's like a a different >> I bet you I bet you that I can stop gambling. [laughter] How did you make money over here? >> Would you quit gambling for $10 million? >> Yeah, easily. I would probably take 10 million pretty fast. >> I mean, you got to think 10 million. You retire. You don't have to do anything. >> What about 5 million? >> 5 million in your pocket right now. >> No tax. >> And I Well, I would have to stop bluff obviously. >> Yes. Um, I probably wouldn't cuz I like technically in the long term of things I would be able to make more, >> but um, 10 million is like a a sweet number where it's like very safe. >> Yeah. >> Like long term I can make more than 10 million doing the social media stuff easily. I know I can. I feel very confident myself. But like I always I always knew like if you ever had $10 million like you don't have to do anything ever. You could live your life as frivolous as you want. So, you feel like you are addicted to gambling, but that you have it under control and that you get the fix from the channel that makes money, so it kind of masks. >> Yeah. Yeah. I don't I don't think I have like a crazy like I don't have addictive personality at all. Like I I know I'm in control, but like walking past a table like going to get dinner, it's like, oh, like I just want to play one hand. Like I'll just play one hand, you know? I don't I'm not going to get out of control and lose $5,000. My my thing is like I I I do it as like not as a joke definitely, but like I'll go in and I'm like, "All right, like I want to try to make dinner free." >> Isn't dinner already free if you're at the casino? >> Yes. But I I'm a very generous tipper. Okay. >> So like I like if I get a $200 dinner, I'll tip $500 to $1,000 every single time. >> Wow. >> Every single time. So like if I can win $500 on a Bakrat table or blackjack table, craps table, then like I'm just like, "All right, dinner's completely free." What does your accountant say? >> He's very I honestly he's concerned in sometimes in some points but um he knows that I don't get out of control, right? I mean I do I definitely get out of control at sometimes but um like it's it's manageable. So he he definitely tells me like hey just make sure you're doing this to you know keep yourself on track. Don't stray too far from the tree. >> What would you rate your finances? One out of 10. >> Probably a five. >> Why five? >> Um, I don't have any investments. I don't own any real estate. I don't have anything. Everything I have is liquid. >> Okay. So, you have you have zero dollars invested. >> Zero. >> Then why is it a >> Why is it >> Why do you have zero dollars invested? Why do you not change that tomorrow? assets and cars. >> Yeah, I would I would say >> doesn't count. >> If I were to rate your finances just based on that, I would say it's maybe a three. Three, but can easily jump to an eight or a nine. >> All right. If you guys are my accountant, what would I do? >> Yeah. Index fund. So, we would break down, we say, how much are you making net after expenses? So, you save away at the end of every month like >> Yeah, I would say like merch is probably 15%, 15 to 20%. like merch. Merch does pretty good, but I have a company that manages it, so they take a big chunk of it, like off the rip. So, I probably make like maybe 15 to 25,000 a month on merch. And then YouTube is a pretty good chunk. That's probably like um probably like 35%. I do like cuz I have three channels, so I probably do like 230 to 250,000 on YouTube. >> Wow. >> And then um yeah, the rest is with like my social casino deal. >> Okay. So, here's here's all you have to do. This is it. >> It's so simple. You create I I like Vegas Matt's whole strategy. You have a gambling fund and you have $500,000 in this fund and you preund it for the year. It could be $750 grand, a million dollar for the year. It's preunded. That is your amount to gamble with. That is it. You could use that. It'll be up and down, whatever. If you lose it all, that's your fund. Then everything else should be invested throughout probably index funds and you could split it up throughout like United States companies, international companies, and then you're going to keep some off to the side for just safe investments like treasuries and bonds. Again, they're all index funds. >> He doesn't know what any of this, but we'll talk about it. No, we'll talk about it more after the podcast cuz the viewers, they're not going to learn much by this. If you want to know what an index fund is, YouTube, what is an index fund? Graham Stefen, you'll watch the videos. It'll tell you all the information you need. Yeah, we don't need to go. Okay, you could you could stash away a significant amount of money just having that gambling fund on the side and then everything else goes towards a small amount lifestyle, the rest savings, taxable brokerage accounts, that's it. Don't do anything fancy. The more boring it is, the better it's going to be for you long term. And all you have to do if you want to retire, five years of that. Five years and you will be set for life. Not even not even five years basically. Like it's way less >> well after taxes and stuff like that. >> I would say way less. >> Yeah. [laughter] >> Knowing you, I think it's going to be it's going to be five years because you because you're going to be uh you're going to be living life and having fun and >> Yeah. I mean, my life would probably be more attain if I stopped YouTube just cuz like a lot of the things that I do is for content, you know? >> Right. But why not have any other investments? Why just cars? >> I really do enjoy the cars. So, I um I I mean the way I buy cars is I try to buy like the rare ones, you know, like I know you have the Ford GT or did you get rid of it? >> No, I still have it. >> So, I try to buy cars that are either going to hold their value or appreciate. There are some cars that I do buy that aren't going to do that at all, but um you know, it's not it's it's small compared to the ones that I do buy that uh I want to hold long term. >> So, what are you buying? We got to list off these cars. >> Yeah. So, I have a like I have a 964 Porsche which is an RWB and it's like fully built. The motor itself was 110,000. Um, a ruby star color, so it's like a pink. >> How is that going to hold its value? Isn't Aren't you in more than the car than what it could be? >> I bought the car already done. I paid 300,000 for it, and I've already gotten an offer for 400,000. >> Holy crap. >> Yeah. Within a month, I got a $400,000 offer. And I told him no. Because I didn't get to enjoy it enough. And I don't know if that's a car that I would sell cuz like you you sell a car like that, you'll never ever ever get it back. And like the car is so fun. It's such a nice car. So, I mean, like obviously there's a number I would sell it for. Uh, honestly, if someone offered me 400 for it, I'd probably sell it. But again, um, because I' I've enjoyed it for like my time. So, I have like I have another Porsche that's similar to that. Like, it's a whole wide body kit. And I I paid 140 for it and it could easily sell for over 200,000 >> and I've only owned these since like November. I have I bought a bunch of like uh Japanese cars. Those are more so going to hold their value. I kind of got them at a good price and I got them bulk. I bought them all at once. >> How many cars do you have? >> I think I counted recently. It was like 22. >> Where do you keep them? >> I have a warehouse. I have a warehouse. Well, I have two warehouses that are together like connected. And I I got that because I started up a third channel for like car stuff. Well, it was vlogs, but I started up like car stuff. And that's like passion project. Like I don't do it to like try to make crazy amount of money or anything. It's more so to like give my friends like a position in the the team to, you know, get hired and do things and maybe grow something for themselves. What are your biggest financial regrets? Um, there's a lot of videos where I've gambled way too much when I don't need to. And that's pretty much almost every video that I do now. A lot of people comment and let me know that like I don't have to gamble that much. like you can gamble like $1,000 and we'll still watch. Um, and obviously like that would keep my my costs way lower. Um, but the things that I want to do sometimes it just requires me to gamble a little bit higher. Like I like doing things where I buy someone a car if I win a bunch of money or I'll give someone $20,000 for being a nice waitress or something. Um, so it's kind of hard to like be able to do crazy extravagant things like that if I only gamble $1,000. >> And what are your biggest expenses? >> Definitely gambling. >> Where are you spending all this money that you're making? >> Gambling is definitely like the most expensive. It it it could definitely fluctuate though because it is gambling. Like I could win one month and, you know, the next month I could lose. Like this past month I've actually been doing pretty good. Um, I may have lost maybe like 30,000 in the last month, which is like really really low for how high I gamble. And uh, you know, the the other thing is like the warehouse. The warehouse cost me 156,000 a month. >> Wow. >> Um, car insurance costs me a lot of money. I think it's car insurance is like4500 a month. >> How much does a girlfriend cost? I do not have a girlfriend. [clears throat] trying to wonder how much of a budget do I set aside for one? >> We've been together for a while, like almost 4 years. So, I'm very um open to kind of let her do whatever she wants. At first, when I first started bluffing, like money started coming in, I was like, "All right, $1,000 a month. Like, I don't want to get too out of hand." But it's gotten to the point where um you know I want her to enjoy her life and you know I'm doing all this crazy stuff, buying all these cars and you know gambling crazy amounts of money and like I don't want to be like oh like you're only allowed to have $500 a month to do whatever you want. No, it's it's she probably spends anywhere from like 10 to 20,000 a month is my assumption. >> She on what? >> She'll do like she'll travel like to go see her family in Texas. >> Girls trip out to to Florida. Well, when she does a girl trip, I we I pay for all of them. >> Like they did like a >> Dude, I want Wait, what do you mean a [laughter] girl trip? Let's >> let's let's define the terms here because there's a negative connotation that goes with girls trip. Yeah. >> Like is she going to Miami? >> No, no, no, no. They like they did like a winery in Napa and it was like four of them and like I've been in that position where like okay $300 on a flight and then $200 for this and then the Airbnb is $300. Like spending $800 to go on like a wine trip is very expensive and like for me I can afford it and I don't mind like you know it's I'm not doing it for her friends. I'm doing it for her because she wants to go and like she >> does she need more friends? >> She's always taking friend applications. >> Yeah, Graham's looking I would love to go to Napa. Wine [laughter] tast strip, Jack. >> But uh yeah, I mean she like the here's the main thing is that for the duration that we've been together, she hasn't really had friends. So like she's like basically become like part of this friend group as of recent. So like the entire past like years she basically just like sits at home while I'm at work or you know especially like doing the bluff stuff. I'm gone like 10 hours a day. She's just at home. So now she's like has some friends and she can like you know do things but obviously not everyone has enough money to just go travel all the time. So I I kind of like justified as like all right like you know my my lady wants to go on a trip but she doesn't want to go by herself and I don't have the time to go. um you know just take your friends like you know don't do anything crazy but like take your friends and just go have a good time. Do you ever talk numbers? Like she says, "Hey, I want this purse. It's 10 grand. What are you going to like contribute towards it?" Or is it never like like numbers? She just kind of knows what you're comfortable spending and what you're not. Like do you guys have conversations about budgets? Yeah, we we've had conversations about budgets and like I let her know because I'm I'm against designer. I hate designer stuff. I I've never once spent a penny on designer stuff for myself. Now for my girlfriend, I spent a lot of money. Um, you know, I don't I don't think the the name of something is going to give me like some sort of status. So I and I also grew up once again like very, you know, poor and like I used to have to wear the same outfit for a week going to the skatepark and I was very self-conscious. So I think that kind of contributes to that. Um, and I I talked to her, we've had conversations multiple times where like, you know, I don't think like we should be spending all this money on designer stuff. Like it's not valuable. It's not going to do anything. It brings nothing to the relationship. does nothing, whatever. She's like, "Oh, well, it makes me happy." And I'm like, "Okay, well, like, let's just set aside like, all right, this is how much you're able to just spend." And, you know, um, if you want something crazy, it's probably not going to happen. Maybe for a birthday, I'll get it for you. Like, I got her like, uh, a couple cool purses. They're actually really nice. Uh, cool purses for her birthday recently. Was it a Birkin bag? >> No, no, no, no. I wouldn't I know. I wouldn't spend $30,000 on a bag. >> Okay, that's good. >> Yeah. 10,000 I've spent. Yes. >> What kind of bag is worth 10 grand, bro? >> Worth 10 grand? >> You could have got a Miata. >> None is worth 10 grand. Trust me, >> none of them are worth >> smile though is worth 10 grand. >> Yeah. >> Why doesn't she just start her own channel? >> She has She does. She does like a little vlog channel that we do. Like it's like a couple's channel, >> gambling channel. >> Yeah, she did. >> There are not that many female gambling channels. >> No, she did. And it was actually doing pretty good, but um she just doesn't want to be like in the casino all the time. And then she's also like battling the fact of like once you start getting like a name and followers like you start getting recognized in public and then you know you start fearing for your safety at times and especially being like a woman and so that's like her concern but um she's having fun. >> One thing I've noticed is it seems like there's a constant theme of generosity and philanthropy. Like you'll go get a free meal and then tip $500 to $1,000 to the waiter. you'll let your girlfriend like not let but like you know she's she'll spend 10 to $20,000 a month. You don't seem to bat an eye at it. You know it seems like you like help out and you want your friends to succeed a lot which is great and then you have the bluff miss that you did where you spent half a million dollars on toys for kids where their families normally could not afford to buy their child a toy. Why is philanthropy such a crucial thing in your life and and how much do you know you're you're able to spend on it? What is your approach towards generosity and giving? >> Um, I think the philanthropy stuff comes from once again my childhood. Uh, growing up like I stopped getting Christmas presents when I was like 8 years old. And you know, you'd go to the skatepark and everyone has a brand new bike, a brand new scooter, and I'm just riding like the same thing because we can't afford it. And I didn't like I wasn't in spite or anything like that. But, you know, seeing other people like getting all these like nice things, brand new things, and you don't know their situations either. you know, maybe their parents are struggling and they just like barely scrape by to get them that thing. So, I never like try to like despise anyone for it, but obviously it makes you feel a type of way where, you know, you wish you could get something or you wish you were able to like get one thing on your wish list. Um, and also like, you know, the it's just the complete struggles from my childhood I think kind of is is built into my brain where I don't want other people to go through that. Unfortunately, they do and they will have to. And I can't solve world hunger. I can't solve everything. But, you know, if I'm able to provide during Bluffness, I was able to provide I think uh I think it was 3,000 or 4,000 kids with at least one toy. You know, that changes something for like during the holiday spirit. If I was able to like experience something like that, like that would make me feel like amazing. I was able to if I was able to go through this toy room and I get to pick out out of all these toys one thing that I wanted, you know, that's like I don't know. I I just think like that's what the Christmas spirit is about. And I don't really have like a budget for like the philanthropy stuff. And like we tipped like a waitress one time actually the whole [clears throat] video I was like I'm giving this waitress $5,000. She was very nice. We tipped her a,000 like uh couple weeks prior and uh this was going to be off camera too. I do I do it all the time off camera. I tip $500 or $1,000. I just play games with the waitresses and stuff. Um so I tipped him $1,000 and then we came back a couple weeks later cuz she was super nice and very appreciative. And uh the whole video I was like, I'm going to tip her $5,000. I'm going to tip her $5,000. I won $10,000 and I was like, I'm going to tip her $5,000. We show up to the restaurant. I'm outside and I'm introing back into the video and I'm like, I'm tipping her 10,000. And then we're in there and I give her the 10,000. She starts crying. She's freaking out. And then she's like, oh, like, yeah, I work two jobs like to take care of my son. And I was like, oh my god. I was like, just take this other 10,000 strap. Like I just it's like uh I I look at it as like if I were in their shoes and someone just handed me a bunch of money, like how drastically would my life change? Like that could be like the pivotal point in your life where you know maybe it gives you enough confidence or it gives you the money where you can quit that job and go pursue, you know, school to do this or you need to finish whatever and you know or maybe you need to buy a car so you can start doing this other position that you have availability for. Um, and like for me, like if I give out 20,000, like 20,000 is a lot of money, but it's not going to like affect me enough where like I can't eat and I can't afford my life, but it it brings me enough joy where to see someone that excited. And, you know, I just hope that it changes their life for the good. What I find incredible is that a lot of other people don't feel the same way. like to grow up in the environment you grew up in where you're around stuff that's pretty hard quite often. A lot of the times that turns someone bitter and resentful and not wanting to give but like wanting to take everything like and I'm curious why have you why are you able to take this rough childhood and turn it into like a very structured positive optimistic outlook on life? like why have you been able to do this when a lot of other people that grow up in a similar environment not able to? >> It's all about perspective, right? It's either, you know, glasses half empty or glass glasses half full. Um, you you can look at things and this is away from like I say gambling, you look at it negatively so you don't have that addictive personality with it or whatever, but everything else you want to look at it in a positive way. Like in 2024 on July 4th, I had a firework hit my eye and like I had 2020 vision. I was perfectly fine. Someone lit a firework and it tipped over and it shot me in the eye and I lost vision in my left eye. So I have like this huge lens, right? And I can like barely see out of my left eye even with the lens on. Um you know, not once was I like, "Oh my god, like this sucks." You know, my first legitimately my first thought was, "Wow, the clickbait for my videos is going to be awesome." you know, it's it's all about perspective and how you look at things. You can't you can't always look at the negative where, you know, um I can go like if I was on my scooter, I can try this trick, but I don't want to cuz I might break my leg. Or you could look at it as I'm going to try this trick because if I land it, it's going to be crazy. Like, you know, the feeling of landing it is going to be awesome. Was that an intentional decision that you made at a point of time in your life where you're like, "Okay, I'm going to start looking at things positively or has it always been like a subconscious thing that you never really had to fully like think about?" I think it's always been like subconscious. It's not like something I forced. I've always like looked at things like from different perspectives because like growing up, right? Sure, I grew up I slept on the floor, but you know, thankfully I had a house to sleep in. Sure, I had to drink cereal with fake milk or whatever, but at least I was able to eat food. You know, it's it's there's many things that you have to look at and then you just have to be appreciative and thankful for even if it's, you know, to this to the normal standards if it's weird and, you know, poor, but you know, there's people in the world that are even, you know, there there's always worse. There's always worse. So, you always have to be appreciative and thankful for what you have and what you can do. If you were to assign one aspect about your personality or character to the success and the incredible life that you've lived so far, what would it be? Would it be the positivity? Would it be hard work? Would it be perspective shifting? What would it be? I would say it's positivity. It's, you know, it's I think if you're a positive person and you can't let things bring you down, you know, it it gives you confidence in every aspect. You can't let things destroy you. it, you know, oh, you're short on rent one month, you know, but you're not letting it get you down. And, you know, maybe something happens and you get like this crazy good job offer because you're not letting it, you know, ruin your attitude and you meet someone in a coffee shop that is going to offer you a crazy position cuz they like you. It's it's it's really positivity and perspective. At what point did the reality of your life not be surreal to you? like you're making crazy crazy crazy money and you're living an absurd life all compared to how you grew up. At what point did it all fin fin finally settle in? >> Um probably sometime last year. I would say probably like late last year, maybe after my birthday, which is in August. So yeah, about late last year. Um, it's just like it's those things where I say when you take a step back and you just kind of look at life and reflect and it's just like I just can't believe like this is my life. This is what's gone, you know, this is what I've gone through and this is what I'm going through now and like you know and I'm I'm almost 30 years old and you know all this has happened in 30 years and I can only remember god knows how many. Like what the hell is going to happen in the next 30 years? It's it's just so crazy. But you also have to be very careful because you know whatever you have now can be taken away instantly. >> What is your greatest insecurity? >> Oh god. It used to be my teeth. My teeth used to be really bad. >> Really? They did not look bad. >> They used to be really No, really bad like years ago back when I used to ride scooters. I used >> Yeah, I was I watched uh like the documentary on you. They seemed >> they I used to have like they're all crooked and chipped and I used to have like a snaggle tooth up here. It It used to be really bad. So then I got like veneers in in Tijana and they were really bad veneers and then I just got these redone like as of recent maybe a couple months ago. >> They look really good. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I'm very happy with these and like that's something that like I'm proud of. Like sure I have fake teeth and I spent money on veneers but like now like I can smile and like talk to people and I have confidence. Like before as a kid with my teeth as they were, I just like I would laugh like this and smile like this and like I just didn't want to show like my teeth, you know? But now insecurity, I don't really have any insecurities. I'm pretty confident. Like it's it's funny. Like I have like this lazy eye and like you know people make fun of me and I I think it's funny. I make fun of it too. >> What does it look like to see out of that eye? >> Um without my glasses without see I can't even see it. without my glasses. Just blobs and like color. It's kind of like uh if you take wax paper and you try to look through it. That's exactly what it is. >> And with the glasses. >> With the glasses, I can like see your face. And >> can you see like fingers if I hold them up? >> Yeah. I think you're holding like three fingers. Yeah. So it it but like my photo receptors are damaged. So like like if you saw I had to like turn to kind of catch it. I have to like find a sweet spot. >> Do you still like fireworks? >> Oh yeah. Yeah. I I lit fireworks on New Year's Eve later that year, but I have not lit fireworks since then. >> What is your advice for young people who want to be successful? >> Let's see. There's obviously there's hard work, there's planning, um, you know, staying positive, not letting things get to you. Even little things, you know, you stub your toe, laugh at it. You know, I think it kind of if you can laugh at yourself at minor things and then you start gradually getting into the bigger things, you can start laughing at yourself like, you know, oh, I backed into a wall. It's like, oh god, I'm like an idiot, you know. Um it kind of it kind of gives you that different look on life where if someone let's say you do get you know successful in the YouTube space which you really you need really thick skin for um you know people start commenting like oh like your eye is huge you look like this you look like whatever you look like Steo or whatever you know people are trying to disrespect you and you know make fun of you. I think if you just start training yourself, that'll help. Um, not just in YouTube. I guess that's with anything. Um, yeah, I think I think the work ethic is the main thing, you know, and now now that I do the YouTube stuff, I work more than ever. I've this is way harder than Well, I'm not say it's way harder, but I'm working more than I was working at a 9 to5. You know, obviously the work is different. you know, more labor this way and, you know, more intellectual that way. But, um, I think the one thing that a lot of people mess up on when they start getting successful in like social media space, they start spending their money too fast. They start buying things that they don't need because they want to show that status, you know? They start buying jewelry and they start buying designer stuff because they're making$10,000, 20,000 a month. Oh, I can afford a $2,000 bag. I can afford a $2,000 pair of shoes. Um, I just think, you know, you got to look at it as, is this going to benefit me to make more money or is this just going to benefit my, you know, emotional status? So, I think just really planning and being smart about your money is the first stepping stone. >> What's the one thing you hope the viewer can learn from you? Um, don't gamble unless it's for recreational fun. >> I got an idea. If you're down, >> I'm not down. I already know what you're going to say. >> You don't want to gamble? >> No. [laughter] >> So, we played this game with the money guys and we had three coins. Heads or tails. The odd one out gets all the money. >> And so, I'm saying if it's like heads, heads, tails, you win. >> Yeah, I'm in. There's there's a similar game to that where uh like let's say you and I each have a $100 bill and we fold it a specific way. You call odds or evens and then we both flip the the bill. If it both if both bills land facing the same way, evens would win. Odds is the other way. That's like that's a bill. >> Uh no I don't. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I mean if if it's a 50/50 if there's no skill in >> Yeah. There's no skill. It's a 50/50 house edge. I mean, I would do it for a hundred bucks. I would not do it for a thousand. >> So, why don't >> you said a thousand? >> Oh, I mean, if you're in I'm in for a,000. You tell me. I'm in for whatever. >> I was going to say 500 each cuz then now person wins a,000 if they win, >> right? You guys can because then you know between you two it'd be $1,000 payout. I would not do $500 >> personally. Yeah. >> I mean, this guy was This guy had a cockroach farm. >> No, don't get Gavin at her. >> The guy had a cockroach farm to save money so he wouldn't have to feed his bearded >> lizard. I would do I would do a heads or coin uh heads or tails of your 500 if you want. >> I'm in. Yeah, I have a coin. There we go. Perfect. >> Cold. All righty. 500. >> Yeah. Oh, we're just going to flip a coin. >> Yeah. Do you Do you want to do that? >> Yeah. Yeah, I'm in. >> Yeah. You down? >> Uh I'm addicted to gambling, dude. >> All right. >> You think I'm going to say no? >> This is free money. >> All right. So, I would Venmo you if you're cool with that? >> That's fine. That's fine. That's totally fine. I think I'm going to lose. I've been on a little cold streak. >> I feel like >> So, >> do you have a preference as a euro? >> This is a two two. So, we'll do heads and tails. >> The two is heads. >> Okay. >> Tails. >> I feel like it's gonna be tails. >> You can flip the coin. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> I think tails. You're heads. >> Sure. >> So, tails. Tails. I win. >> Tails, you win. Okay. >> All right. >> Anyways, guys, we just did the coin flip. If you want to see it, I will allow it to be on members only. I'm sorry. It's not that I hate the members. I just like everyone to have access to everything. Anyways, >> yeah. >> Thank you so much for coming on the podcast. >> Thank you guys so much for watching the video. Thank you to everyone sitting behind the scenes. >> Thank you. Until next time. Until next time.