Video summary
The video explores the psychological phenomenon where a narcissist interacts with reality exclusively through "magical thinking," a primitive cognitive process rooted in early childhood that they never outgrow. This mindset leads them to conflate internal fantasies with external reality, believing that their internal thoughts, wishes, and imagined objects can directly manipulate the outside world. Consequently, when a narcissist perceives an external event or action, such as someone performing a task for them, they do not attribute it to the actual person but rather to their own internal representation of that person. In this distorted reality, the external individual effectively ceases to exist as an autonomous entity; only the narcissist's introjected avatar acts upon the environment, creating a delusion where the internal object is credited with all changes and outcomes in the real world.
This confusion between the internal and external selves creates significant friction when the external person maintains independence, making their own decisions or maintaining separate social circles. The narcissist views such autonomy as a threat to their fragile internal structure, interpreting the independent actions of others as challenges to their control. To resolve this dissonance, the narcissist employs subtle coercive tactics, ranging from emotional manipulation to explicit punishment, designed to force the external person to shed their independence and become a mere simulacrum or simulation of the internal object. The goal is to make the real person perfectly align with the narcissist's internal expectations, effectively suspending their own agency so that the narcissist can maintain the illusion that their internal world dictates reality without contradiction.
To explain how a narcissist can claim self-awareness despite having no true self, the speaker distinguishes between the "process self," which generates thoughts and emotions, and the "observing self," which functions like a camera or a silent witness. This observing self is not a person or an ego but rather a detached function of pure awareness that records experiences without judgment, similar to how a camera continues to operate even when no one is present. Drawing on concepts from Eastern philosophy and psychology, the video argues that this observer is not a permanent entity but a stream of momentary consciousness, much like the sky observing passing clouds. This distinction allows for the possibility of observing emptiness or a void without requiring a substantial "self" to do the observing, challenging the Western notion of a continuous identity.
Ultimately, the transcript suggests that what we perceive as the observer is often an illusion constructed by cognitive processes and past conditioning, rather than a true, permanent entity. Philosophers like Jiddu Krishnamurti and traditions such as Buddhism describe this observer as another thought or mental image, proposing that true observation occurs only when the judging mind steps aside. The video concludes by contrasting the narcissist's false self, which insists on being the sole reality and creator of its own world, with the concept of "anatta" or non-self, where there is no fixed wizard behind the curtain. By understanding metacognition as a biological feedback loop rather than evidence of a solid ego, one can see that the narcissist's claim to self-awareness is merely a sophisticated performance by their internal objects, while true awareness exists as an open, unattached space that simply witnesses the play of thoughts and feelings without needing to own them.
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This day will go down in the annals of
mankind in the history books. I'm
responding to a second comment within
less than one hour. [laughter]
You can't say it's not a historical
event. I, Sam Vaknin, professor of
psychology, author of malignant
self-love, narcissism revisited, and the
star of several productions, am here to
respond to the query of a humble
YouTuber.
Isn't it magnanimous of me? [laughter]
I think so. And what is a query all
about?
Please help me clarify. If the
narcissist interacts with me only
[clears throat] via a shared fantasy,
if I agree to be his personal assistant
or housekeeper, is that service only in
our minds? Is it real?
Of course, it's real.
Narcissists confuse internal and
external objects. Narcissists
conflate fantasy and reality. But
narcissists are pretty functional. Some
of them can even become presidents.
The thing is the narcissist has magical
thinking.
Magical thinking is a primitive process
or a primitive construct in early
childhood. Narcissists never grow out of
early childhood. They never become more
mature than a 2-year-old or a
three-year-old. And so they remain stuck
with a monopoly of defense mechanisms
such as splitting or projection and with
magical thinking. Magical thinking is
simply the conviction innate unconscious
conviction that internal processes
thinking, wishing, imagining have an
impact on the outside world. that
reality is shaped by what's happening in
our minds. This is magical thinking and
narcissists are prone to it. So what the
narcissist does he or she unconsciously
believe belie believes that the internal
object can act in and on reality.
Now that's very confusing. Let me
explain. The narcissist's mind is
populated with internal objects that
reflect or represent external objects.
The narcissist cannot tell which is
which. The narcissist does not perceive
the separateness
and externality of objects. He
immediately snapshots them, introjects
them, and then continues to interact
only with the internal objects.
The narcissist operates on the internal
objects. The narcissist interacts with
the internal objects. The narcissist
motivates the internal objects. The
narcissist sends them on errands. The
narcissist makes them do things. It's a
it's all happening inside the
narcissist's demented mind.
And this experience of internal objects
is conflated and confused with reality.
This is the narcissist's only reality.
So when the narcissist imagines
that an internal object could or should
do something, when the narcissist wishes
for an internal object to act in a
certain way, the narcissist immediately
believes that this is this is reality.
In other words,
the narcissist manipulates the internal
objects to act in reality and to act on
reality. When the external object, you
take action, takes action. At that
point, the narcissist tries to match you
with the internal object. The narcissist
believes that it is the internal object
that has caused the change in the
external environment, not you.
You don't exist.
Only your representation, your avatar
exists, not you. It is the avatar, the
introject, the internal object, the
representation that act upon the
environment that change it, that modify
it, that cause transformations and and
elicit processes and and obtain
outcomes.
So it is via the mediation of the
internal object that the narcissist
interacts with reality. Of course, if
you as an external object have a life of
your own, if you act independently, if
you make decisions and choices, if you
have your own friends and social circle
and family, if you travel, if you have a
job, etc. This creates a lot of friction
between you as an external object and
the internal object that represents you
in the narcissist's mind.
The more independent you are, the more
difficult it is for the narcissist to
attribute your actions, decisions and
choices to the internal object.
It creates it challenges the internal
objects. It undermines the precarious
balance of this house of card which is
the introjected or introjective space.
That's why narcissists penalize you,
punish you when you are independent.
It's a punitive environment with many
incentives to suspend yourself, to
become submissive, to fully correspond
to the expectations and exigencies of
the internal object. In short, the
narcissist forces you to become
increasingly
a simulacum or a simulation of an
internal object. The narcissist forces
you to shed your externality,
independence, separateness, personal
autonomy, and agency. [clears throat]
And this coercive process is liinal and
subliminal. It's ambient and sometimes
explicit. It's not exactly violence.
There's no externalized aggression
except rarely, but there are
communicated expectations.
uh disappointment
um and a lot of emotional incentives to
conform.
To answer your question now in view of
everything that I've just said, if you
are the narcissist's personal assistant
or housekeeper or lover or service
provider,
at that point you will have become an
internal logger.
When you do something at home, when you
housekeep
or when you cater to the narcissist's
needs in some way, you provide services,
you drive the narcissist somewhere.
The narcissist's
unconscious belief is that it is the
internal object that had affected the
environment, that had impacted the
environment in a magical way. The
narcissist world is infused with magic.
So the narcissist communicates with the
internal objects object unconsciously
informs the internal object of his or
her wishes and demands expectations. The
internal object then transmits these
onto the environment modifying it trans
transmuting it transubstantiating it and
transforming it in every way
conceivable.
The narcissist acts in and on reality
exclusively via an internal process
which is a great definition of
psychosis.
Okay. Another question tangentially
related to this one that many people ask
me.
They say
you know you say that the narcissist is
empty.
How does the narcissist know that he's
empty? How do you know that you are
empty? Who is or what is it that has
this knowledge
that of emptiness?
The narcissist narcissists engage in
self-reporting.
They're able to provide a lot of
information about their internal world,
their hopes, their dreams, their
fantasies, their wishes, their fears.
They are they're eloquent. They are they
can communicate
internal processes that resemble
emotions and cognitions very
convincingly. But who is it or what is
it that somehow secures this knowledge?
If the narcissist has no self, if the
narcissist has no ego, if there's
nothing there, it's a vast absence. It's
a howling void. It's what fasting called
the black hole.
Then
which figment,
what element, which construct is doing
the observing,
is doing the self-awareness, is doing
the self-reporting. I mean, after all,
pay attention to the phrase self
reporting. Selfawareness. There must be
a self there.
Well, there is and there isn't.
We must distinguish between what is
known as the observing self
and the cognitive emotional self
or you can you could use use another
phraseiology.
The process
the process self is the self that is
engaged in the management of cognitions
and emotions their amalgamation
interpretation communication to other
parts of the personality.
And this is the con the process self.
And then you have a meta self or
metacognitive self or observing self.
These are two separate selves. Now one
of the main objections to this model of
consciousness
is that it leads to infinite regression.
The observing self is observing the
process self. Who is observing the
observing self? and who is observing the
observer of the observing self etc etc
at infinitum that need not be the case
this infinite regression
appears to be appealing
intuitively but it's not needed
in other words the separation of the
observing self from the real process
oriented self does not lead to infinite
regression we are simply talking about
functional spheres or functional spaces.
The observing self is a kind of pure
awareness. It's a detached detached
witness. It's not another thinking
object. It's not a locus of some kind of
processes or dynamics or it's more or
less like a telescope or a microscope or
a camera. Think of it as a camera.
So, we have this camera function.
When you put a camera in action,
you can walk away. The camera will
continue to work.
The camera is the observer. It has no
self. There's nobody there. There's no
ego. It's a function.
So, the camera continues to shoot
roll after roll after roll after roll or
fulfill the SD card even in your
presence, in your absence.
Your absence does not disable the
camera. Similarly, in narcissism, the
narcissist's absence fundamental
essential
quidity absence absence that is
existential cellular [snorts]
presence masquerading as absence. This
absence does does not disable the camera
does not disable the observer self.
In the theory of metacognition in
psychology, we distinguish between the
witness, the observing self as a stable
part of consciousness that notices and
records thoughts, feelings and so on and
exerts no judgment of any kind. It's
just a recording facility. It's [snorts]
like a tape recorder.
So there's the witness. And then there
is metacognition.
It's the brain's ability to think about
thinking, stepping back, kind of
audience, self audiencing, kind of being
your own audience,
watching the play of your life unfold
and unfurl.
And then there is the loop. William
James described it as the I observing
the me, the knower observing the known.
The loop of self-reflection.
And in many spiritual and philosophical
schools and perspectives, we have a
similar division.
In eastern philosophies, for example, in
Buddhism,
uh they believe that there is this
illusion of the watcher. If you search
for the entity observing the mind, you
only find another mind or another
thought. So Buddhism is basically
against this idea of metacognition and
cognition, observer and observed, knower
and known.
The philosopher Jirro Krishna Moti noted
that the division between the watcher
and the watched observer and observed is
an illusion. The observer is just
another con constructed image. It's not
real. It's a figment. It's a byproduct
if you wish. It's another thought. It's
another cognitive process.
Pure awareness
is a major conundrum in the study and
theory of consciousness.
There is no fixed who. The observer
self, the knower self, the camera is not
a who. It's it's not a it's not a p a
person. There's no personhood there. And
in in this sense the the phrase observer
self is very misleading because self
the idea of self the concept of self is
a sense of continuity across changing
environment and changing relationships.
Whereas the observer self does not
maintain this sense of continuity. It is
very discrete and it's very episodic.
It's exactly like a camera triggered by
a flesh of light. So there's no fixed
entity or self or who that is doing the
watching. The observer self is a very
very misleading phrase. I would just use
the word the observer.
There's just the open unattached act of
awareness itself.
Think of it like the interaction between
the sky and clouds.
Is the sky
comprised of the clouds? Are the clouds
part of the sky? If we take away the
clouds, will the sky remain? Yes, of
course it will. The sky is observing the
clouds.
Possibly the clouds are observing the
sky as well. Metacognition may be a
two-way street. But at this stage, let's
confine ourselves to the sky metaphor.
Sky is observing the clouds. The clouds
come and go. The clouds are dynamic.
The camera, the sky is permanent.
The observing self, pure awareness,
consciousness, witness,
uh, call it as you wish. It's simply an
an entity or a program, a code that
observes the conceptual self, the
process self,
what most psychologists call the self.
The thinking self generates thoughts,
emotions, memories. This conceptual
process, thinking emoting self is what
you call myself, your self, the self.
But there's always another layer.
If you stop to think of it, you will
immediately realize that you're
observing yourself all the time. And it
can't be that the self is observing
itself. There must be another entity,
another structure, another construct.
There's a silent unchanging space that
notices
experiences happening.
And so in psychology and cognitive
science, especially in acceptance and
commitment therapy act, the mind is
divided into the thinking self and the
observing self. There's a as I mentioned
the issue of metacognition. It's a
scientific term for thinking about
thinking. There's a biological feedback
loop where the brain monitors its own
cognitive processes and that has been
proven in laboratories.
I mentioned the sky metaphor
like observing the self like a blue sky
where thoughts and feelings are like
changing weather or floating clouds or
whatever. The sky contains the clouds.
Sky contains the weather. But they the
sky is not the clouds and the sky is not
the weather. Think of the observing self
as a canvas. Canvas upon which any
painting is possible. And this is what
you do throughout your life. You paint
yourself on this canvas.
I'm giving you all this for you to
understand that it is entirely possible
to not have a self to be comprised of
emptiness and yet be perfectly able to
observe this emptiness describe it gauge
it evaluate it capture it somehow
in internal family systems
IFS developed by Dr. Richard Schwarz.
This framework identifies the core self
as the seat of consciousness
characterized by what they call the
eight C's including curiosity, calm,
clarity, compassion and so on.
Back to eastern philosophy and
meditation.
Eastern eastern sages throughout the
centuries and the millennia were very
very concerned very very deeply into the
question of the self, the question of
what's real and what's not. The question
of the interaction or the relationship
or the correspondence between the self
and reality.
They took this inquiry much deeper than
western philosophy. And one of the
questions they asked is who is watching
when you quiet the mind when you numb
the mind or reduce the chatter via
meditation for example who is watching
this who is aware that you're meditating
when you're meditating
in advita vanta
in ancient Indian philosophy they said
that there is a true identity they call
it atman pure consciousness the mind
creates a false reflection of the atman.
So there's the atman
that's your true identity which I think
Winnot would have called the true self
and then the mind creates this false
reflection that is called jva
the reflected self or the public facing
self or something like that which I
think when would have called the false
self or the as Deutsch Helen Deutsch
would have called the as if personality.
Now we mistakenly
uh self-styled mystics and gurus like
toler and others mistakenly call it the
ego. It's wrong phrase completely but
okay you get the picture.
There's the atman and the ja
and the ja mistakenly believes itself to
be the one doing the observing
[clears throat] when actually it's the
atman.
Truth is observing false falsity. True
self is observing the false self in this
structure in this construct and but the
false self is convinced that it is the
only real one that there is no other
self except itself
that it is the one doing the observing
internally and externally that it is
creating and recreating
the observer and the observed reality.
In Buddhism, there's a con concept of
anata. Anata means nonself or not self.
If you look closely at the observer,
you will find no permanent little
person, no wizard of Oz inside your
head. There's nobody there. Instead,
there is only a stream of momentary
awareness, stream of consciousness. The
observer and the observed are ultimately
not separate. And I mentioned Judu um
Krishna Morti who famously claimed that
the observer is the observed. He argued
that the entity inside you who the
entity that judges, that labels, that
tries to control your thoughts is
actually just another cognitive process,
another thought, a mental image created
by past conditioning, environment,
personal history, etc.
True observation happens only when this
judging observer steps out of the way
internally. Only when we disable this
particular cognitive process. In this
way Krishna Morti Krishna Morti was
among the first to suggest a practical
way of coping therapeutically with
pathological narcissism. But that's a
topic for another video.