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The recent visit of Benjamin Netanyahu to Gaza has sent a clear message that Israeli troops will not withdraw until Hamas is fully disarmed, a condition that experts suggest Hamas is unlikely to meet completely by handing over its weapons. Analyst Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib highlights that this stance was reinforced by a daring operation where Israeli special forces captured a senior Hamas security official in broad daylight, signaling Israel's serious commitment to remaining in Gaza as long as necessary. While there are indications that some elements within Hamas desire an exit ramp and wish to disarm, the international community, including the United States, Arab nations, and Egypt, has provided very little transparent communication or compelling messaging to facilitate this complex process. Consequently, while Israel has clarified its demands regarding disarmament, it has yet to outline a clear pathway for those factions of Hamas willing to comply, leaving a significant gap in the negotiation framework. The capture of the head of Hamas's internal security service has caused deep concern among remaining Hamas operatives and created an atmosphere of fear within the group's governance structures. There is speculation that this operation may have been a deliberate targeting of a symbol of oppression who was responsible for decades of torture, killings, and disappearances under Hamas's rule, leading to relief among many Gazans who suffered under his regime. Although some anti-Hamas Palestinian militias may have coordinated with Israeli forces, the primary worry for Hamas leadership is the penetration of their ranks by defectors or informants providing intelligence to Israeli agencies like Shin Bet. This internal instability suggests that while Hamas retains enough control to manage the population, its security apparatus is increasingly unable to protect its own members, further weakening its position and accelerating calls for its removal from power. Palestinian media and social platforms within Gaza reflect a shifting sentiment where many citizens view Hamas not as a protector but as a significant obstacle preventing reconstruction and peace. Beyond the initial reactions of relief regarding the arrest of specific figures, conversations have evolved to question why Hamas has not disarmed if it cannot even protect its own leaders from Israeli raids. There is a growing consensus that the terror group must expedite its exit from Gaza to allow for a transitional process, whether through phased withdrawal, deradicalization programs, or reintegration efforts for those uninvolved in the October 7th attacks. The current situation is described as a state of purgatory where Gaza lacks full-scale war but also has no real peace, ceasefire, or reconstruction, relying instead on a fragile mix of UN NGOs, private sector aid, and the remnants of Hamas's security apparatus to keep society together. Ultimately, the people of Gaza are desperate for urgent change and see the continued presence of Hamas as a block in the road to their future stability and safety. Many residents feel that waiting for external political shifts, such as upcoming elections or changes in the US Congress, is not a viable strategy given the ongoing suffering and lack of progress. The community's frustration is palpable as they navigate a limbo between conflict and peace without any real hope for resolution, viewing the disarmament and departure of Hamas elements as essential prerequisites for moving forward. This sentiment underscores the urgent need for international actors to facilitate a transparent process that addresses both the security concerns of Israel and the humanitarian needs of the Palestinian population trapped in this prolonged crisis.
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It's a pleasure to welcome Ahmed Fouad Alkhatib, analyst and senior fellow at the Atlantic Council and Gaza writer joining us now from Washington. Ahmed, thank you so much for your time. So, we just heard there Benjamin Netanyahu inside Gaza a very clear message. The idea of troops aren't going anywhere until Hamas is disarmed. Realistically, Hamas is not going to fully hand over its weapons. How do you see the situation on the ground unfolding? Your thoughts. >> Well, I think the timing of his visit is notable because it comes a day after the Israeli special forces led by Shabak unit or a Shin Bet unit were able to snag one of Hamas's senior security officials in a very daring operation raid in broad daylight. I think this signals a seriousness that Israel both has the reach inside Gaza and has the commitment and the willingness to stay there for as long as it deems necessary. The problem is that we don't really see any messaging on the process of should Hamas even or elements of Hamas, many of whom I actually think do want an off-ramp. Maybe not the entirety of the group, but elements of Hamas do want [clears throat] an off-ramp. How do they proceed with disarmament? We have we've seen bits and pieces about the international stabilization force. We've heard about this incoming police force that the N-CAG, the technocratic committee, is training, but there's very little transparent or compelling public messaging and communication by the United States, by the Arabs, by the Egyptians, and certainly by Israel that could facilitate the process of disarmament. So, I think now Israel has made its position clear. It needs to also make clear how this process would unfold for those elements of Hamas who are willing to fully disarm. >> Well, Israel is certainly making its position clear in terms of action. You talk about the Shin Bet and IDF apprehending that top Hamas internal security figure in Gaza City. It did play out like a scene in Fauda. There were reports that anti-Hamas Palestinian militia may have been involved, too, or at least there was possibly some level of coordination. How worrying is an operation like this for senior Hamas operatives there, and how would Gazans be feeling, too, right now? >> Well, one of the things that I've been wondering about if um if either this is a response to urgent intelligence, or if this is something that um it just a fleet an opportunity that presented itself, or if this was a deliberately selected target because of the symbolic nature of what this guy represents. This man was the head of the internal security service in Gaza, and he's played a major role in the oppression of Gazans, the torturing, the killing, the executions, the disappearances, the the the the the extortions, blackmail, you name it, anything dark that happened under Hamas's regime over the last 20 years, this man has been a part of, and he's been rising in their ranks. So, I wondered if the decision was made to target this guy because so many Israel predicted um and accurately so that so many Gazans ever since the attack or the operation yesterday have been breathing a sigh of relief that a symbol of oppression is no longer around, even though other Gazans are, of course, you know, condemning the attack, etc., whatever, but a lot of people who've been tortured by Hamas are saying like good riddance, and that they hope for more um of Hamas's figures who have held Gaza back, who have held Gazans as hostages to Hamas's jihadi fascism are either taken out or or moved out of the way for a better future. I I think that what we I've seen some chatter in in Gaza that Hamas has actually nagged some of its own operatives that it suspects provided intelligence to the Israeli Shin Bet suggesting that there's penetration of Hamas ranks, but I I I don't I don't I don't know that the militias that Israel's been funding and supporting are really as critical in this attack as potential defectors of Hamas. I would be very nervous if I were part of the remaining structure of Hamas's governance or Hamas's Al-Qassam Brigades. >> There's no doubt about that and we keep on hearing Benjamin Netanyahu with that directive saying that Israel will continue to pursue all Hamas leaders and everyone who took part in the October 7th massacre. How is all of this being covered by Palestinian media? Give us a sense of the concerns, the sentiment right now for Gazans in inside the strip as we speak. >> So beyond the folks that I shared with you who met some of whom are personal friends, some of whom I mean I I wish more Israelis would would learn Arabic or use AI to just check out Facebook and and Gaza centered Gaza centric social media because you would just learn so much about what people are actually saying there, not what Al Jazeera or other channels are saying. So beyond the initial wave of folks who are saying good riddance or kind of saying well, so then why is Hamas mobilized like basically it seems that Hamas's remaining security infrastructure is optimized for maintaining control of the population, but that they're unable to even protect themselves. So why haven't you disarmed? And that So that's the second tier of the conversations and how Palestinian media and analysts are covering this is that this signals not only penetration by Israeli intelligence of Hamas, not only the weakness of Hamas, but the urgent need for the terror group to expedite its exit from the scene to basically carry on with the process of disarmament regardless of the phased withdrawal and the framework and the storing versus the destruction of the weapons that Hamas needs to expediently leave the scene, take offers to leave Gaza and go elsewhere or those who haven't been involved in October 7th or some of the most vile terrorism actually accept processes for deradicalization and reintegration, but this is seen as yet more potential fuel for expediting the stalled and frozen transitional process that Hamas has been blamed by most of the people of Gaza for not engaging with seriously thinking that it can wait out until these really elections or the US midterm elections maybe a Democratic Congress is going to apply more pressure on Israel. Gaza is not desperate. Gaza is not sick and tired of being a people in waiting. They're kind of in purgatory in between there's not a full on war. There's no real peace or ceasefire. There's no reconstruction. Gaza is kept together by an amalgamation of UN NGOs, private sector and remnants of Hamas's security apparatus. So they're desperate for an urgent change and they see Hamas very much as a block in the road.