Harsh Truths From A Special Forces Master Sergeant - Tim Kennedy (4K)

77% of us 177 to 24 year olds could not join the military the American Department of Defense recently did an analysis of 17 to 24 year olds and found that 77% were unqualified to serve in the military due mostly to obesity drug abuse physical health or mental health almost half were disqualified for more than one of those reasons yeah this is um when we talk about strategic level issues like national security problems anybody looking at that number from from the SEAL Teams to the green bravs to Ranger those all are those select their populations from a larger general population from combat arms combat arms gets their people from this larger population of people so like as the as the the arrowhead gets a little bit more narrow the availability of people to fund these small groups to these middle siiz groups to these potentially larger groups are just shrinking and shrinking and shrinking this is um we're going to lose to everybody if this trend continues we just can't we can't win Wars with the bodies that we have because the catchment area of the normal people feeds into the catchment area of the normal soldiers feeds into the catchment area of the semi- elite into the absolutely Elite and if the Bottom Rung of the ladder which is population is bad that trickles all the way up to the very top yeah the Department of Defense is always um a parallel it's just a reflection of what Society is at a large right when you look at Society at large right now they are just that they are very large that they're obese they're gelatinous Blobs of broken Minds um they don't know if they're a boy or a girl they definitely have never jumped out of a tree before so when they go to Airborne school and they land on a static line jump and they break both their legs it's because they've never done it before you know you and I grew up chasing kids and like smacking each other with sticks you know and this generation has done that so they're just weaker in every form of the word I know every generation says this but right now statistically we've never had a data point to point to to show like that has ever been this bad so now I know like the the World War II guys were like uh those Vietnam guys are a bunch of [ __ ] you know and the Vietnam guys are like oh man those gwalk guys are a bunch of [ __ ] and the gwalk guys are like man all these Millennials and genes or a bunch of like but they really are but this is a real big problem and we don't know how to fix it how how much do you lay at the feet of the population with this because lots of people probably would like to be fitter if they knew what that would feel like they would like to have better mental health if they knew what that would feel like they would but they weren't aware they weren't given the tools there are distractions and and environmental issues technology screen social media porn video games all of these things are relatively new inventions that didn't have to be contended with by World War II or Vietnam or even early Millennials so how how do you think about it sort of individual agency versus environmental uh stimulus and restrictions and stuff yeah I think it's a combination of both right I think you could point to a specific thing and be like this is the thing that's causing the biggest problem you know from social media to pornography to um you know iPad screen time diet like the food that we're eating right now is poison literally the things that are in our food is illegal in most other countries but it's legal here they're not allowed to export it if you go to Japan or you go to Italy a bunch of American foods aren't even allowed to be imported there because they know the things that that are in them are so disgusting there's a there's a hilarious video meme of these Italian moms comparing American pasta to the pasta that they make and they could not be more dissimilar they're like this is not pasta like we don't know what these ingredients are but this is not like we use flour and um a little bit of salt you know and we throw some eggs in there and and we and we and then here's the process of us making P like this is poison so it's I think it's a combination of a whole bunch of things and then the society culture problem is another gigantic piece we we have the culture of being an American has changed in the past 30 years in a really negative way you know where it used to be family first you know like the nuclear family was was the Cornerstone of American society like there was the motivating the motivations for a male figure in the household like he's going to be a provider he's going to be a protector he's going to preserve his family you know like he's obviously going to be sex driven so he's like trying to be a a a masculine person in the household s on the opposite end of that Spectrum the woman would en would Embrace being feminine you know the kids respected the parents if if you look at Pop Culture right now like Chris could you point to a single television show that paints a parent in a positive light I mean think of every single Show on Netflix Disney Amazon the longest running showr it's all flawed even the heroes in superhero movies are it's a Suicide Squad right it's a a Deadpool with Ryan Reynolds no one can just be I mean the closest thing that we got was Top Gun I guess yeah that was it and he's he's he's broken but and that's definitely an anomaly like that's on the outside of the average that's the outliers you look at Homer like the longest running cartoon TV series right now when you go into his brain he's motivated by three things beer donuts and cluelessness you know he is the idiot in the whole entire family and you know from Modern Family to yeah every single one of them like the parent figure is the most disgusting despicable person there so of course that's going to naturally be eroding the view of this generational passing of information information that generational Gap from grandparents to Children used to be very commonplace right like I learned how to magnetize a screwdriver I learned how to charge a battery I learned like the tricks and the trades of like how to hold a hammer and how one hammer was different than a different hammer and that hammer was specific to a job and you know while my Dad could have taught me that it was actually my grandpa that did that and I was able to receive that easier from my grandpa than it was my own father um and that's how has been for hundreds of years until now now you see no um kind of cross-pollination of ideas from one generation to two generations ago from like the grandparents to the grandchild and that's tragic there's a huge loss of information there well the desire for people to move out at age 16 or 18 or 20 and be in a different country I mean I say this is someone who is in a different country but Pang generational living in some commune Style small village would have been the way that everything was done do you know what the grandmother hypothesis is it's one of the reasons or The evolutionary justifications for why women go through menopause no right so there's a question to be asked most animals aren't able to continue to reproduce while they their reproduction doesn't stop while they're still alive their capacity to reproduce does it ceases at the same time that they die typically whereas for humans you have this weird period you know 40s for women 40s to 50s where they're still about so you'd think well they're a drain on resources and they're no longer contributing any more kin so what are they here for and the argument is that human child rearing is so complex and Alo parenting needs to be done which is the Shared Parenting of kids from mothers to grandmothers to aunties and close friends that what you actually need is a grandmother in that sort of matriarch head of the household position who is able to deal with the interpersonal political backbiting of you know 10 women below her that are part of her family and telling them what to do and helping to raise the children and coordinating stuff like that so that's a very important role whilst not still continuing to produce children so it's like it's so important to the way that humans develop that it's literally built into female biology yeah that's how important it is you see it culturally you know if you go to Native Native American tribes when a girl is having her first period the the grandmother would take that child away and teach her all of like okay this is how you take care of yourself this is during this period of you know 5 to seven days you're going to be drinking extra water you know like this is this is how you clean yourself um and you go down to South America a bunch of cultures down there they're actually like traditional tribal periods where that granddaughter would go to the grandmother and she would spend a week or two weeks with this grandmother learning all of the the birds and bees of life and um the that transfer of knowledge about how to raise a child about how to take care of their body about what this cycle looks like like what is going on in America where now we look at this the prior generation as these old broken idiots that you can just walk up to on the street in New York and slam them in the face which we see all the time um it's it's been an erosion of respect of these other Generations there's a an interesting Trend I found this article about conscription for Gen Z and some of the feedback that Jen Z gave about that I'm going to war for Rishi sunak give your head a wobble I've got things to do said 23-year-old Tik tocker Charlie Malo in a widely shared video she posted on a platform over the weekend I'm gay she continued I'm Northern and I will play those cards 26-year-old content creator I am uploaded a similar video I'm sitting here naked eating a bowl of yogurt she begins reading about how we might have to go to war they want to send me a little girl to the front line the Army is simply no longer seen as a moral Endeavor as a 24-year-old the last war in my life living memory was not a b storming defeat of the Nazis but rather a series of wars and invasions in the Middle East exposed his failures and widely thought to be based on lies the belief held by older Generations that the British army is solely a Force for good in the world does not stand up anymore as JZ would put it the military propaganda is not propaganda in yeah the um one what a entitled little pricks how how sad is that there there there there should be a yearning to serve um I I found nothing more meaningful in my life than finding opportunities to do good to somebody or for something that is bigger or better than myself and I've as a as an individual have found growth in those in those times more so than anything else in life um but a whole bunch of people right now don't want to serve anyone but themselves they want to build a brand you know they want food delivered to their door um it's just so shortsighted and and realizing that sometimes it takes time to develop who you are as a person and that development comes from struggle and failure and service on the military front uh you don't think that those young men and women coming out of the Great Depression had things to do when they learned that Nazis were flooding across the borders throughout Europe you know you don't think that during the Korean War as America has the largest economic boom in history in the history of our species that those that Americans didn't have something to do besides fight communism in a land that most people had never even heard of before you know go to Vietnam you know think the ones that were then conscripted the the draft occurs and hundreds of thousands of people had no choice but to go serve their country um you don't think they had better things to do as as like the Great Awakening of of cultures happening in the 60s and 70s um you know we're fighting for civil rights we're fighting for the rights of women we're fighting um for transparency within the government you know we we lose one of the greatest presidents our country has ever had like all of this is in real tough times but I get that you want to sit there naked and eat your yogurt but you think that that's more important than what was happening previously like they didn't have other things to do it's it's it's so pathetic and childish I just look at it like a petulent child how would you fix how do you think about fixing the culture and the populaces perspective of the Armed Forces and service yeah I think it's a communication problem on Department of Defense side I think we failed to clearly show what we do um you know like people look at my resume and be like man all he's done is adult life has gone overseas and killed that's the furthest thing from the truth there have been periods where I had to do that to to create stability and security within a nation but why why were we doing that it was to give that place an opportunity to exist where democracy could have a foothold where a hook could be set and that place had a chance to live the better the more secure and the more stable a world has a country like ours that is built off capitalism has more countries to do Commerce with um but on the human on the human rights side of it with stability and security comes opportunity opportunity for young girls to learn how to read for young men to find occupations besides working it within terrorism or sling slinging some form of human suffering and uh we have to communicate to that gay girl eating yogurt naked on her couch what does it look like to serve and I think they'd be blown away to realize that we go to the some of the most down trotten cultures on the planet and give them a chance we give them opportunity we create something that they've never had in their like if you're born in America you won the lottery you know like you're you're in the safest richest Planet place on the planet to have ever existed like you look one continent to our East slightly South and you can't go to a country that doesn't have when I say like third world poor I'm not talking like favellas in Brazil I'm talking like they one meal away from starving to death and starving to death when we say man I'm so hungry I'm starving starving to death means like you are so malnourished that if you even eat a meal it might kill you because your body can't process the calories that are in it um they've never seen suffering and and human desperation like we see all over the world and we get to go to that place and give them a chance it's like how do you tell a girl that's sitting there on Tik Tok um I don't know I think the presumption what it sounds like the presumption is is this is you know Colonial Powers it's something to do with oil this is you know the military industrial complex trying to take over some country it doesn't sound like uh Aid it doesn't sound like Liberation it doesn't sound like Assistance or medicine or health care or any of those things what it sounds like is just more colonialism going on white people invading brown people uh that's what war is yeah uh colonialism has existed for forever and some of the greatest things to happen to some countries were them being conquered and then settled and then Commerce occurs and then for the first time that country isn't tribally just killing each other uh it's really easy to like label any form of expansion of a country or an idea or a culture negatively there are cultures that are better than other cultures I know we're supposed to be like super inclusive um I could list a couple dozen cultures that are so disgusting and so evil where you know a 67y old man can have five 10 wives and guess what those wives are little girls as soon as they have their first period they are eligible to be sold and married to this dude you please tell me that it would not be better for Britain or for America or for Mexico to go over and settle that country it would be 100% better and the people there would be better off for it um but like oh we have to appreciate all these cultures we def definitely don't we like assume any of these no there are better cultures and um the world would be better off it would be a more peaceful place not no not everybody has to be westernized that's not what I'm saying um but there are evil ideas and there are evil religions and there are evil cultures and uh man I just wish that but there are also shared values you know there are norms that are beautiful that transcend cultures and transcend countries and transcend borders and those ideals like murder is wrong rape is wrong those ideas are not wrong In some cultures well those cultures are evil yeah I wonder I wonder what needs to happen from a messaging perspective uh it certainly needs to maybe highlight at least two things that I can think of one being the honor in making a bad place better and the second one being the uh sort of heroism and of purpose and meaning that people who do that get because it seems strange that an entire culture entire generation can talk about meaninglessness purposelessness hopelessness you know 60% of teenage girls say that they have regular or persistent feelings of hopelessness I think 30% of girls in that same age bracket have seriously considered taking their own lives if that's the case surely one of the things that a lot of people in the armed forces say is the most meaningful thing probably maybe except family that they do well that that seems like a pretty good antidote to me but I guess what it sounds like what it looks like to people who haven't had the messaging put across in the right way is oh this is just hard things for bad ends yeah I don't think there's anything more dangerous than a young man or woman without purpose there's there's nothing that will destroy and erode that person's future than their lack of purpose there's also nothing more beautiful and I'll just talk to young men specifically than a young man with purpose you know like during the Holocaust when those rumors started coming across the Atlantic that Jews were being put on trains and taken to no one knows where but nobody sees them again but we see towers of smoke coming out of these places like out twitch and young men are like no [ __ ] no yeah I'll I'll storm beaches I'll climb Cliffs I'll jump out of airplanes for the first time Behind Enemy Lines with equipment that's never been used before in a in a in a form of warfare that's never been tried because this is my purpose is to do good uh where is that we see on the opposite end of that Spectrum young men without purpose that then get angry and get bitter and um they start having res uh resentment against specific groups and people whether it's the color of their skin or their religion and then they walk into a school or a church or a movie theater and they start hurting people that's a broken young man without purpose but a man with purpose man you know he's GNA he's going to figure out that you can fly a plane off this little tiny island in North Carolina you know he's going to figure out that he can step off this ladder and jump into almost weightlessness on a surface of a moon that nobody stepped on before like that's purpose what was the purpose we're in an arms race against the Russians the the space race was an arms race but that was purpose it was an idea that we can do something significant to improve America fill yourself with something more important than yourself and pour everything that you are into it and the and that's purpose and with that like like I'm filled with purpose and I'm filled with joy and I'm filled with hope and I'm filled with love and I'm filled with grace but all of that is a byproduct of purpose like you can't be sitting there like I'm depressed I'm thinking about suicide you know like I'm I'm feeling hopeless I I could give I could write a thousand different ideas that you could cont that you could dedicate your life to and it would be a life worth lived living like go go and do great things a lot of that's from service it seems exactly but the point is that in the modern culture get that thing inside of you go on okay put it in here you sure you want this oh yeah okay yeah yeah yeah come on I know I'm always like hard already and they you're like you what I'm GNA do I'm GNA give this guy a little say you're hard already that's I mean like figurativ but also literally I I me that's good that'll do yeah that's what we want you'll be dialed in now oh yeah feel that csing through your veins um so we have a a culture which is very individuated very individualized um people are atomized from their family from their culture from their history uh and from each other as well if you're living in if you're [ __ ] citizen number 233,000 living in your pod bleep bleeping away that shared sense of purpose it doesn't surprise me that that's not the case but you look to other cultures that are competitors you know this ginda Bogel one of my friends wrote an amazing article about Tik Tok and the uh spinach talk equivalent that they have in China is showing people being proud of their country and people doing cool science stuff and people technology in young people pornography bad sleep good family good well video games youve seen when uh they can play video games in China yeah it's between I think 700 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. Friday Saturday Sunday and four days a week two hours a day yeah that's it and it's outside of those times it's just not on it's like you can't you know it's like the [ __ ] someone's unplugged the power it's like the ultimate parent uh it's it's wild and thinking okay is this is what we have now with the degrees of freedom you're someone that very much you know wants people to have freedom and has fought for it a lot I like that freedom stuff but that multiplicity of options and lack of constraint just causes people to sort of race to the bottom of the pleasure stem right so you there's a bit of a there's a paradox going on here that some of the authoritarian dictatorial um Tendencies are actually enabling the population in some ways to be better yeah I I will never say that the government is a solution for anything um if we think that it would be a better idea solution to give the government authority to go into households and say how much time they should be on screens or who they should call like that goes against every ounce of I what I what I believe and what I think it means to be an American um for in the Preamble of the Constitution we the people like the people really were badasses they carved their existence out of the Wilderness you know they fought bears and they fought Indians and then they were told that they were going to be taxed a certain amount and they're like no and then we'll throw this tea in the harbor and they're like okay well we're going to have this little problem in Boston and an American's going to get shot now you pissed us off we're going to kill all of you and we're going to kick you off the continent like we the people were a bunch of badasses there was individual responsibility for those people people they're well read They're well traveled for you to vote you had to be a land owner um you knew how to shoot a gun you were required to own a gun and to train with that gun re to own a gun if you if you were a voting member you had to own a gun and you had to train with it and there was a dedicated day off for the entire country every single person had a dedicated day to go out and train and there there were some inherent responsibilities to being a citizen to being we the people now we're just like every somebody's going to do it for me somebody's going to take care of this problem somebody's going to solve this world problem somebody's going to tell me how much I'm supposed to eat or what I'm supposed to eat that responsibility we've just been handing over bit by bit for the past 40 years and now we don't know how to take it back and responsibility is where Freedom comes from you can't be free unless you are self-sufficient you cannot be free unless you're individually responsible you can't be free from the government being able to tell you how you're supposed to be healthy unless you're healthy like I can look at somebody saying hey you need to put this in your body and I could be like no I don't I'm freaking jacked and I'm going to live until I'm a 100 hey you need to put this in your kids bodies I'm like my kid has a sixpack can speak a couple of languages and plays five sports like he doesn't need what you're giving him man like he eats freerange chicken elk bison you're like he I promise you whatever you're trying to give him he doesn't want and but we can do that because we're in a position of authority as with sovereignty and then take that into any other category whether it's intellectual or education and like hey you have to be educated in this way no the way that you're educating those kids is dumb all of the kids that we educate are way smarter than your dumb kids I don't want what you're trying to sell us because we do it better but that's sovereignty and that is us taking back those freedoms and taking back um and taking back that Authority and be like you don't get that you you you can't tell me what to do because I do it better this episode is brought to you by Ketone IQ 60% of toy to France Riders use Ketone IQ to help them with their energy and mental Clarity and that's why I use it as my pre-workout I don't want to have caffeine upon waking but I still want to have energy to make sure that I have a good session which is why I use this gives me really clean energy there's no Jitters there's no crash afterward and it massively helps with mental Clarity ketones are the brain and body's preferred fuel source but getting into a state of ketosis is hard you often have to fast for a long time or restrict 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it's directed by Guy Richie also Jack jacked out of his mind directed by Guy Richie so it's going to be sexy it's going to be cool and uh I ju I can't wait but as you know true story you've read the book yeah of course this is what I this is like this sort of renegade spirit is so cool so the beginning of World War II the British being the prim and proper gentleman a monacle and a bow tie go out take a tea with one of them crumpets exactly spinning spinning a cane uh at the beginning of World War II Winston Churchill realized that the only way that we could beat the Nazis was to play dirty and there's a quote from one of the other high-ranking officials in the British government that said if this is what it takes to win then I am prepared to lose that's what he said that there was a degree of hang that guy I don't know who that is but they should hang him in the street well so I think you know be this was really the Inception of Guerilla Warfare uh being used at scale for advanced military yeah and you that or that's the beginning of Special Forces yes correct yeah that's and for both the US and the UK all done sep canans yes like this is the this is the beginning of it all so very very familiar so but just thinking about that thinking about okay so there was like the British sensibility of doing things right was so powerful it was such a compulsion that the guys in power would have rather Lo there is a tendency of leaning toward this is so unethical it's to them it was like [ __ ] saren gas or [ __ ] mustard gas or something it's like we're blowing up Bridges we're using uh they created the Limpet mine in that book as well and they're doing it with an AED balls wrapped in condoms and it's just it's it's [ __ ] great I can't wait for this movie we're going through this right now though Chris 100% so and history always repeats itself um there there's a great book called the new rules of War and currently America does not have the appetite to do what it takes to win the wars that we have to win but we can't even call them Wars right so we're currently fighting cartels syndicated criminal groups we're fighting Wars via proxy against terrorist organizations in proxy Nations so not direct State on state conflicts but rather like State versus um this group of people that are living in this area of this other country that'll be financed by one of our enemy that's War though like if if that if our enemy is financing a bunch of different groups and militias to fight Us in these really inhumane ways we're at war with that country but America can't recognize that and the things that we would have to do to win this war in this new kind of way we're not capable of doing the the Drone Warfare um the AI that we're having to use to be successful in Ukraine Americans are wait a second so that drone is going to go kill a human and it's making its decision on its own yeah it has to because once it leaves this point of departure it can't receive any signal from us because it's been blocked and it has to be able to be making those decisions by itself similarly like if you go down to the Mexican border we're not just fighting immigrants that's not what this is we are we are you're an immigrant I'm an immigrant literally every single white person in this whole entire country is an immigrant with that said there was an immigration process for us to come here we are fighting cartels that are not just smuggling people smuggling terrorists smuggling drugs and smuggling guns they're smuggling in ideas and we're at War on that border that that that's for a country to be a real country it has to have a sovereign border there's literally an amendment in the Constitution saying that we have the right to defend oursel and our borders but we're not and we're being invaded what's happening on the US Mexico border at the moment spent some time down there give me the I think was it in December 300,000 potential uh immigrants was stopped that was the number that were stopped yeah yeah yeah but the getaways is the number that nobody talks about so 300,000 people were stopped and then let in how many weren't stopped how many just got in is it more than 300,000 what do you think oh yeah I 100% know it's more than 300,000 so like the number of people that we caught is going to be a small fraction of the of the number of people that made it across without being stopped when you look at the vastness of that border and where the wall is where our ports of Entry are um where the river is it it is porous beyond belief you can I I've crossed that border like 25 times in a week both sides like you know like M Mexico you like my phone says welcome to Mexico like it's going to cost you $10 a day to be here welcome to the international program VI Horizon and I come back like hey welcome back to the United States like they can do this all day long so the ones that we're catching the the ones that we catch compared to the ones that make it through is a very very small fraction the ones that really don't want to be caught the way the cartel will push a bunch of people that they know are going to get caught because if you just think of a the okay I'm the commander I have X number of resources I have 100 troops at my disposal of course I want to do counter interdiction so I want to stop drugs I want to stop human traffickers I want to stop um sex enslavement I want to stop um weapon smuggling as I'm at the river in Del Rio and I have a thousand immigrants cross at one time how many of myund soldiers do I need to use to deal with those thousand people all right so I have I have one guy receiving right I'm gonna put him in the lines I I I make some choke points I funnel them into a specific area I use some constantina wire to make sure like have an orderly way 50 guys may 75 guys right so now I have 50 to to 25 guys left for me to use and I have this entire area that I have to be covering but the moment those people start coming across the river there's the same time that Five Guys jump into the river with bundles on their back and then another five miles up the river two boats get pushed across with a bunch of Middle Eastern and Eastern ukra Eastern European guys that are being smuggled and trafficked across and then 5 miles down the river there's a bunch of young girls they're 11 or 12 they're going back into me me that they kidnapped in El Paso okay what the whole thing's coordinated tell me how to distribute my L remaining 25 guys also the Thousand that start coming across the cartel dudes are just going to grab a couple little girls and throw them in the river they're going to grab a baby and drop it in the drink they're going to take a dad and just trip him with a kid on his shoulders and they're all drowning do you want my soldiers to jump in with body armor to start swimming after them this is the reality every single day across the whole entire River and it is the largest Border in the world in the world is our border on our Southern border Canadia Canada to the north gigantic border Mexico border to the South need to stop those Canadians coming in that's the important thing that no one's talking about those I I got hopes for their next election though okay yeah yeah yeah so can you explain you know for the people who haven't been down to the Mexico border what is the is it all uh marked in some form or another is there some type of or are there elements where it's literally just this is a piece of land and you can wander across a lot Texas has mostly private land um so that the border is on somebody's ranch right fantastic yeah so hey guys welcome in in some cases but I mean those ranchers the the the cartel charges we we'll say like a ticket so if you want yourself and your family to come across your your um Ecuador right now kind of spicy cartel's took the whole entire thing over I'm not sure if you saw two weeks ago they're like they were killing News hosts in the new station while they were on the street killing a bunch of people in the street and targeting government officials and judges and it was happening like in real time live on the news so you have legitimate Asylum Seekers that are on the run from from cartels they move through Central America and they come up to the Mexico border they pay the cartels to allow them to Cross or they pay them extra to facilitate them coming across um this is an endless cycle of revenue for the cartels like it costs them nothing to produce they don't have to smuggle in drugs they don't have to kidnap anybody people are just walking to them and they they on the South Side have created barriers where you can't cross without permission and if you don't pay them they'll kill you so there's there's in some cases physical barriers and in some cases psychological barriers where you know if you point this part like this point of departure you'll be executed without uh a wristband like your ticket like I could show you what those wristbands look like those wristbands color coordinated kind of tell you I got a round trip I have multi-rip I have single Direction I'm allowed to go through this area it's super sophisticated super sophisticated all color coordinated and a across the on the southern side all uh agreed between this cartel that's working with this group with this cartel with these traffickers and it's it's Unstoppable the way that we're currently try to fight it fighting it it's just we're not going to win what is a way that would make it stoppable so when the Chinese built the Great Wall um they recognized that any barricade without observation isn't a barricade so I can build a wall but if there's not something there observing that thing it's not really a barricade because I can do whatever I need to do to get over that barricade and there's nothing to stop me um so there's like all problems there's not a single solution unfortunately the wall creates choke points it forces people to go through specific areas and in those specific areas uh we can set up to interdict those people now there's a misconception that there is [Music] this barrier stopping people from Crossing there's not and additionally there are ports of Entry there are legal places where anybody to include people like Mexican can just walk across the border they can walk up and say hey I'm going to be working here's my Visa or I'm going to be working at this Ranch my mom lives across the street and you know some of those borders when they were set some families lived on this side some families lived on this side and they've been going back and forth all the time um but there's s there are so many hundreds of thousands of people that have flooded these areas that it creates a human humanitarian crisis and it creates this logistical problem problem of how as we the United States government and Department of State how do we process this number of people we we we can't um which is what exactly what the cartel wants and the surges that happen from the executive level so the white house right now they changed some policies and the W gets out that it's open borders everybody comes and everybody's coming what was the word that got out that made it seem like it was open borders uh you get money when you cross you know we'll give you a couple thousand dollars will give you a bus ticket to the Inland um we'll throw you on a plane and bring you to the city that you want to go to um will instead of you if you're an asylum Seeker when during the Trump era for example if you came in and you were caught uh an asylum Seeker that just crosses um they'll then just on the Inland be like hey I'm looking for residency here um if they're stopped on the border they'll claim that they're Asylum seeking ERS well we would make that person wait either at the country of their Crossing or the country of their origin for their case for their Asylum case to be heard now they get a date come back in like six months or 12 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the two police officers the two police officers end up grappling on the ground against a couple of them and then the whole entire crowd came up and started Soccer kicking the police officers and it turns into like this I mean it's It's A Hard video to watch I'm actually about to post it today uh because I wanted to get some more context as to like what was the initial call why were they there like they were there doing the right thing there there were actually crimes being committed and they were there to like try and keep the peace as good police officers and then it was escalated not on their end but on the illegals end and then they ended up getting like skull stomped this is foreshadowing of what's going to be coming like this this is just a tiny little taste like th those are just immigrants th those weren't even Bad actors that were trained and are hoping for an opportunity to do America damage cuz tens of thousands of them came into this country over the past couple of years did you see that video of a bunch of people on a plane refusing to sit down because someone was being deported yeah and it turned out that that person had been involved in Gangland shootouts and all manner of [ __ ] yeah 10 days ago uh live news near Eagle Pass another common Texas yeah another common smuggling Point uh this News host is talking about all the immigrants coming across and this guy in in pretty decent English walks up behind he goes you don't know who I am but you're going to know my name and you're like what is going on here facial recognition ties this guy to 82% that he is a multi-time terrorist that was in GMO and he just walked across the border he's live on television as his terrorist just walks into America and is bragging that everybody's going to know his name that was that was almost two and a half two weeks ago a week and a half ago what would you do what would you do to try and fix this problem you've mentioned that you need to have presumably more Staffing more uh funding to be able to train people up to be able to do this y so this isn't a border state problem this is a ntion this is a national problem right so the governor of Texas is using State resources he he approved operation LoanStar which is using Texas National Guard soldiers to protect the border so he is using tons of teex of State funding to to protect the Texas border it's not just the Texas border this is America's border but a whole bunch of you know most of California Arizona New Mexico Texas um are bearing the burden of this immigration humanitarian crisis but the other 36 states are kind of or the other 46 states are just kind of like hanging back being like h sucks to be you guys but then we we bust a couple bus loads up to them they're like oh my God we're like being overwhelmed I'm like we sent you 500 of them do you know what it's like when you have 300,000 that just came across your border that are in your country um what would I do I would finish the wall um I would make certain areas impassible that's constantina wire um that is armed guards that is um men on Horseback the Epic photo of those border patrol guys that he was actually using his leads and they thought it was a whip because people are idiots and they actually don't know how to ride a horse um sensors drones we have the solutions this is a fixable thing we just don't have yet again the appetite to do what it takes to close that border once The Border's closed we open the ports of Entry Department of State funds and Department of State is doing the best they can with the very restricted resources they have so imagine like the White House is telling the Department of State hey you have to be be to be doing this department State's like we don't have the resources and we don't have the means to facilitate this number of people but then the White House is like hey everybody come over here and Department State's like we can't so these ports of Entry have to be opened and the systems have to be fixed for us to be able to process more people in a more um strategic way didn't someone rip down a turn of razor wire wasn't that a big deal like last week weeks ago so the federal government is there's there's a competing efforts at the at the border right now so Texas is saying the Border closed and the federal government saying no the the borders open so the federal government is coming down to the barricades and the barriers that Texas has put up and said we you can't have those that goes against federal law and Texas is saying no you can't do that like this is Texas Land and we are closing the borders so if you're not going to close the American borders we're going to close the Texas border um yeah they literally like federal law enforcement is coming in and doing the opposite of what the Texas law enforcement is doing wild yeah that's conflict Brian Callen told me that he tried to trick you into believing that he was asleep and you stood over him and said do you know how many people have tried to pretend that they're asleep as I've stood over them yeah I love that guy um but he did get up and he did go to the water with me and then he did wrestle with me on the southern coast of France in the sand yeah yeah and I um I started like leg riding him from behind and put his face down in the sand and while he was like trying to an ineffectively trying to get away from me I was like drawing hearts in the sand and his face is like this I'm like I'm drawing hearts in the it was awesome what a great what a gem of a human for the people who haven't almost no one really that's listen listening will have been in uh any kind of kinetic uh armed encounter what's it actually like to be in a firefight what's the sense of that like what just like describe what's going on fear chaos Anarchy I mean it's like uh it is so not like the movies you know it's like John Wick just like doing like some cool artistic violent ballet and there it's it's um smells like [ __ ] uh you know the the smell of human flesh being burnt whether it's a bullet going in it or an explosion from an IED or an RPG um you know the diesel from a hve or rg33 the smell of gunpowder from a 50 cal machine gun the like those are all hard smells and then um you know when when there's over pressure from you know a machine gun or a bomb or a grenade or an at4 it of course kicks up the dirt and but it's the Fine Dirt it's not like the heavy good soil like on Farmland it's like the gross moondust dirt human skin yeah and so you get these really weird not natural smells mixed with very earthy smells and smells are a trigger for a lot of people's memories and um um that earthy with mechanical with burning thing are like really overwhelming Sensations that's the smell portion and then there's like what you're seeing and the fog of War could not like fail to express how hard it is to see what you're seeing you know You' heard that expression the fog of war and people trying to remember back to battles and they have a really hard time explaining what they're seeing cuz I don't think your brain can process what you're seeing you know you your your brain can't process like your friend just got blown up and he's burnt over here and there's a guy up there that's shooting a bullet at you that's from a machine gun position that's going to kill you you know and like the vehicle that you're just in is like shredded with a bunch of wait those holes in the front of this vehicle weren't there a few seconds ago and that's what that sound was and but your brain's trying to process this all the time all the while like adrenal adrenaline cortisol is just exploding through your body um it's uh it's War as hell uh and the fog of War are apt Expressions to try to in a succinct way say it's [ __ ] chaos so it's not it it yeah chaos is the right word that there's no degree of pause or control in what you've just described but presumably that's what tactics and preparation of four yeah it's to allow you to be able to Wrangle what's going on and actually have some sort of process that you guys are moving through yeah I mean that that's why we do tens of thousands of reps of an emergency reload of my rifle right the bolt locks to the the rear I feel the bolt my I feel my my magazine getting light lighter as I'm shooting then I literally feel against my chin the bolt locked to the rear and I feel the little catch stop that Bolt from traveling back forward because the follower was pushed up by or pushed up the the bolt lock by the follower of the magazine so I know my gun's empty I dro the magazine I insert a new magazine I drop the bolt I regrip the gun I find my sight and I press the trigger and all that happens in less than a second my brain shouldn't can't do that like I can't cognitively think about doing that process but I've practiced it you know tens of thousands of times that it just happens and when we start maneuvering and we have a group laying down suppress a fire while another group is flanking or we have one group move up to a an oversight position to start laying down suppress of fire while another element goes like these are all rehearsed responses to known problems and uh and that's why the most elite units on the planet have so much time to train and so many resources to facilitate them training go Ambush Delta Force you know like go give that a whirl you know like real bad plan you're all going to die send as many people as you want and just know that you're not going to get any of them back you like cool go deal with Seal Team 6 on the water that's a good idea you know or like go kidnap an American and drag her into the desert and then use a cell phone and see how that works out for you um you know these these these are all stories of SEAL Team Six like dropping into North Africa and going and rescuing this beautiful blonde um NGO worker and killing literally everybody on the ground true stories and uh it's because they've done it thousands of times thousands of reps thousands of jumps thousands of time rounds on down on the Range so when that chaos happens and you're scared and you're full of fear you're just doing the thing that you've always practiced to do and if you do it you'll live if you don't you're going to die so I understand the moving things that you have to do from system two deliberate thinking into system one automatic thinking it's what you did in the UFC right someone throws a punch you don't think oh that's a a left jab I'm going to like slip yeah I'm going to move a little bit I'm going to move I'm going to move uh it just happens but presumably in a firefight it's not just reaction and response there's this sort of uh system one thinking where you're just doing the things reloading the weapon but then there's also the you need to use some cognition too so what about that pulling in and pulling out thing how do you utilize a little bit more of the analytical brain If You' just cortisol in Adrenaline and well those systems and those processes are built within the military combat unit you know so while you have the fighters you also have the you know we'll just use a special forces Oda you know you have operational Detachment Al Alpha it's it's like The 12-man A Team right uh within that team you have two guys per job there's four main jobs which are the eight men that do the body of the work the other four guys are lead ERS in some form or fashion and each of them take a certain piece of the pie on the leadership role like is that one for each two no so the team Sergeant he's kind of running the eight guys he's the the E8 that is like the battle hardened he's the most senior NCO on the ground and he's feeding the information to the 18 Bravo the the weapons guy to the communication guy to the engineer who's going to be launching mortars and Rockets um and to the medic who's making sure like all the the the team and their foreign Fighters are all working in unison and then you have you know the the Intel guy who's kind of feeding information and helping the team Sergeant but he's also feeding information to the team leader the team leader on the phone talking to command getting U maybe some air support he wants some fixed Wing fast movers or he's looking for some rotary Wing support or he called an ac130 so they're all reacting but they're reacting in their piece of the pie and some of of those reactions are that team leader the the captain if he picks up the 240 machine gun and hops up on top of the back of the Humvee and he's like I'm the war hero you know like sir you're fired that is not your job your job is to go get on that radio and to call higher and get a support similarly if that team Sergeant isn't directing and coordinating the men to respond to you know the the threat the ambush in the right way that they've rehearsed and they've planned then like he's not doing his job so each one of these awesome jobs has an awesome role and the individual responsibility of that person to understand that role and then to be be able to execute that role in this hell that is war during the fog of war is so freaking badass that's why you it's one of the many reasons why I you know I look to like the Marcus Latrell and the Andy stumps and the [ __ ] and and hayers and and you see them be like incredibly successful in business you're like of course they will because look at what they did beforehand in all of these different roles as they moved up the military ladder and filled every single one of the roles on the way up where like they'll go run a Fortune 500 company or they'll go start a brand new one and you know then bring it public and solve it for few hundred million dollars and here's my face of surprise you know like they could do anything what do each of the Full Pez of people do um so you have the 18 Bravo he is a weapon sergeant and he's kind of responsible for base security um the initial um he's like the warrior he's I was an 18 Bravo so I'm being slightly biased here they're the best and uh so then the 18 Charlie he's the engineer so there's two of each of these there's two of there's a senior and a junior right so the the guy that's been on the team longer and then the team gets the junior guy and he he's the mentor to him he's showing him all the things that he needs to know and preparing that replacement and the senior of each of those jobs is also looking at the four other roles like the 18 Fox the the warrant on the team and the team sergeant and they're all kind of being positioned and um trained to then fill the next role above them the engineer is the explosives the building um is the bridge good to cross um is this building stable for us to fight from if I'm going to be setting up the camp here's how I'm doing like the logistic resource of refits and refuels 18 Echo is the communication guy so Satellite Communication line of sight communication FM all the things that we need to do shoot move 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like feed back information but ultimately we're also teaching a dude how to take crosshairs figure out how to take a bullet and put it into somebody and make a hole um you have lots of military schools I'm about to go to one that's like six months long and that is not a casual casualty producing school that's a Leadership School it's like lots Ranger school not a casualty producing school that's a Leadership School um Safar Tech that is not a casualty producing School even though you learn a ton about how to shoot move communicate and medicate that is how to rescue somebody that is a hostage you go to safic Special Forces Advance Urban combat that is how do I do war in a combat area or in an urban area it's like each of them building necessary skills within that special operations unit but sniper School teaching somebody how to make a hole in somebody far far away the no shoot sniper comes from combat arms goes to sniper school goes to war and can't pull the trigger and it's not common but it it does it happens and and this is just my personal opinion I I think it is uh for a couple of reasons one is the the the equipment that we use just like I can see you here very very close you know like I can see your skin I can can see your pores I can see the vents on your neck you're like that's how intimate it is when you're looking through a 20 power optic so it humanizes the target yeah and I'm watching them breathe and I know I'm going to have a bullet flight of 2 to three seconds so I actually have to be watching how you're moving so I need to know where you're going to be in two to three seconds from now so I'm like learning so much about you and how you move and it really connects me to you which is one problem um and then the other part is the the thing that we've known throughout all war which is some people just can't do it it's not for everybody um have you hacksaw Ridge you ever read seen this movie read this book middle of Honor recipient he was a cons conscientious objector he would not hold a weapon this is during World War II he would not hold a gun he said he wouldn't do it it was against his faith and during one of the island invasions in the Pacific he rescued like hundreds of Americans and um get shot get stabbed gets uh blown up and he just keeps going up this cliff and grabbing these Americans and everybody at the base of the cliff has no idea who keeps lowering down these Americans and they find out that it was this guy that they've been trying to kick out of the unit because he wouldn't fight and not everybody needs to fight there's a uh there's a beautiful poem written about the warrior there's a hundred men that go to war 80 of them shouldn't even be there you know like they're just bags of blood they're going to be running forward to die um 10 of them are going to like they're the men that are going to carry the the war like they're the ones that are going to go out and fight you know and then there's the remaining 10 and Men they're they're incredible they're Brave they're courageous leaders but then there's the one right there's the one that's going to bring all the men home and that's the that's the Marcus latrell's that's that's the Dakota Myers that's the that's the extraordinary that's the Andy stumps you know like you know some of these guys I texted Andy this morning yeah great human this is Andy's it's nice origin yeah yeah but I stole it from him we oh right you actually took it off his back no no he he laid down and set it down and I took it and I put it in my bag and then I left with it right if Andy's looking at you thinking that's a familiar looking I wasn't sure if it was his or Denver's but I'm like 90% sure that it was his okay so like 90% that I stole this that it's nice yeah it is nice uh is there anyone you mentioned Marcus Latrell Dakota Maya is there anyone that you have heard about or you served with that you wish their story would be better known is there someone or are there um incidents that you wish that you could sort of bring to public light more yeah give me some Roy benovitz all right you're not gonna believe this one okay Roy benovitz he's um in Vietnam he's a Texan and he uh he's sitting on a Ford base and he listens to a special forces Oda he's a special he's a Green Beret getting a gunfight he's like whoop this sounds bad helicopter goes in to try to get some dudes he gets scuffed up comes back with a bunch of bullet holes and Roy runs up to the helicopter he's like hey I'm going to go with you take me back in there he throws a bunch of guns and ammo in there the helicopter takes off own on his own flies him back to where the Oda has almost all been massacred he goes starts leading the remaining men that are all busted up all of them are wounded most of them are dead he gets them to start fighting back the Viet Kong and starts pushing them back he gets all of them in together and they start um surviving for a little bit helicopters are trying to come get them out through the course of I think he gets like 70 80 or 90 bullet wounds fragmentation from grenades and Bayonet wounds he kills a dude with a rock kills a dude with a Bayonet there's a portion where one of the helicopters is trying to take off but it has so much um they overload it with the wounded and dead he's running along alongside of it with a machine gun providing support with his body and a machine gun laying down supporting fire as this helicopter's trying to take off helicopter comes back again he gets the last remaining bits of equipment he gets the last few men back onto the helicopter he's the last guy to come he gets jumped gets stagged with the band takes the bay out out kills the dude kills a couple more dudes hops in the helicopter and falls over they they uh the helicopter lands he's covered in blood he's covered in mud and um they're like this dude's dead they throw him in a dead body bag so they can throw him in the morg and as they're zipping the the thing up he goes and he spits in the doctor's face he couldn't talk he'd been so wounded there's nothing that he could do besides spit on this dude to let him know that he was still alive he's like oh my God Roy benitz is alive that's a good one you know shart and Gordon Blackhawk Down no uh okay I'm going to do this without crying okay good luck good luck you're familiar with the Blackhawk Down Battle of Mishu they're in there to get this um terrorist leader and um the plan was for Delta Force to come in on top of this building the Rangers come up to create a perimeter security perimeter around this building while they find the bad guy inside move him to the vehicles and they all drive out together that was the plan like Mike Tyson said everybody has a plan until you get hit in the face guys get in they get the bad guy Rangers arrive helicopter gets struck by an RPG in the tail helicopter crashes um this then begins this horrific battle against a bunch of different terrorist organizations all trying to kill the Rangers and Delta Force that are now trapped in Mogadishu and it's a I mean this is a fight 30 40 to1 odds in ratio between terrorists to American operators shart and Gordon are two special forces snipers that are in a helicopter providing OverWatch one of the helicopters that gets shot and crashes is getting overrun by all of these Insurgent militia terrorists they see on the ground that this helicopter that some of the the people inside of it survived the crash and they see Small Arms fire they see flashes from these guys trying to protect themselves they get on the radio and they're like General we'd like permission to go in and protect these guys if we don't get down there they're going to get overrun we can see everything the General's like negative you do not have permission you cannot be put on the ground and they're like understood why did they not give permission so they call again 5 minutes later they're like if we don't get on the ground right now everybody in that helicopter is going to die the General's like no denied you cannot go down there you see better than we can that there's no way for us to get you out if you go on the ground it's just going to add to the problem it's two more people they get a third time sir with your permission please allow us to get on the ground we will fight to the helicopter we will create a perimeter a security perimeter around these guys and we will protect them until we get a time to get these guys out the General's like I don't know when that's going to be if you go on the ground I can't send the Rangers to you I have no more helicopters to send to you I have no resources to go and rescue the people in that helicopter and um Durant an amazing book The Pilot that was in that helicopter um he tells in his book the most dangerous time to be taken captive is like the first few minutes there's like this Blood lust this like rampid rage so the helicopter crashes right and like think like you're an Insurgent you're a terrorist on the ground we got him we got him right like you're rushing in you're just killing everything it's like there has to be this lull if anybody has a chance to survive so Shar shart and Gordon talk the general after three efforts into putting them on the ground these two Delta Force Special Forces snipers from my from like the school that I went to it's the best sniper school on the planet these dudes fight from their info point to the helicopter and they kill literally everybody like if there was anybody within 200 M that was holding a gun they went on the ground leaky of blood and dead they get to the helicopter and um this is all explained in Durant's book cuz he was the one that survived he was the one that they went to rescue he was the one that they ultimately gave their life to save and they did just that they grab him they drag him out of the out of the helicopter they bring him into the building and then they go back out to the helicopter they give him an MP5 and they say anybody that comes in behind us stop them cuz we're going to fight to slow cuz they're like this big huge surge like this uh like you've seen like where riots kind of start getting that energy and like people start pulsing fever yeah so that fever is there and they're just trying to keep it at Bay and they run out of rifle ammo they run out of they start acquiring weapons off the ground and they run out of that ammo and they end up with pistols and they're like knuckle fighting these guys and shooting the remaining pistol rounds as they have before ultimately they're both killed and they save his life and um shart and Gordon knew and I that's the this is the this is the hard one they knew they're gonna die like there's not a there's not a way that you're sitting in a helicopter like that and they're like we'll survive this um when that question is there's no greater thing than to lay your life down for another service right here we are full circle um they knew that they were going to die for the chance to save a dude and I've asked myself this question a thousand times like what would I do and I don't know um shart and Gordon pretty rad men I could go on for hours telling these stories because if you if there's a part of you that is lacking purpose sometimes you can find INSP inspiration from somebody else's purpose and um there I mean there's been times where I'm like looking at Israel like do I have to go over there is this where I really need to go um and those questions of like should I be there is is am I just another Pond to these large strategic influences um should I the Mexico border should I be in Ukraine should I be in Afghanistan um but maybe that purpose is just to be part of something that's bigger and better than yourself and then the answer is yes here I am send me like an Isaiah 68 well get back to talking to Tim in one minute but first I need to tell you about element stop having coffee first thing in the morning 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was a story that you had when you run out of ammo as well I seem to remember hearing that from you yeah that's not a great plan if you're in the military as best you can never be in a gunfight run out of ammo that's uh yeah that was an Z gone Valley in Afghanistan in 2008 we got blown up and uh We've they couldn't get ammo resupplies into us the gunfight was so intense we have rg33 is we had Humvees we had supporting um Special Forces Commandos that were with us we ran out of ammo like that's wild that's a gunfight how long was that firefight 3 days in a couple of days out so maybe five days ctively of gunfighting what you mean in and out so we moving a group of Czech Special Operations into this Firebase called Firebase anaconda and we had to go through this Valley um to get to Firebase anaconda and the topography was really advantageous for the Taliban and uh like everything was kind of stacked against us but we had to get this unit in there because Firebase Anaconda had been isolated if you Google Firebase Anaconda they have I think two or three times been overrun by the Taliban like climbing over walls and they're fighting for their lives who the [ __ ] chose to put this thing though that's a great question that's stupid idea to put it in this bad spot they're also surrounded um they're they're close enough where foreign Fighters are easy easily that that area is easily accessible to foreign Fighters um it's just like the perfect storm and the worst place to be um Oda 782 little shout out to you guys because they held that base um better than anybody ever has throughout the whole entire gwatt and it's my my two best friends in the world their old Oda but we were trying to get the Czech Special Forces to Firebase anaconda and you had to pass through this Valley and that's where we got blown up and attacked and ambushed and then we had to fight for a while and then once we got to Firebase Anaconda you know we had scuffed up you know we killed like 3 400 foreign Fighters and Taliban on our way in like that really like we kicked the Hornet's Nest so then all of the other organizations were sending all of their people cuz they then they knew that we had to leave because our job was to bring those guys in we left I put this in my book and I can't remember it off the top of my head now we left with a couple hundred trucks and we arrived with like a couple dozen that was crappy so if you're in a a a situation like that where you need to be fighting for 5 days straight like you can't be awake and functioning well for all of that time so you trying to grab 30 minutes of rest whenever you can I don't remember like trying to get rest um I remember being underneath a Humvee and I woke up and I don't know how I got underneath that Humvee and I don't know how long I'd been underneath that Humvee and I heard like so there's somebody like shooting towards you which is like and then there's somebody shooting at you which is like the snap and then there's why is the snap the snap is is the bullet CR like coming past you and right it pushes the app yeah and then there's bang and that's like the bullet is so close you hear the bang of the rifle you hear the pop of the Supersonic and then you hear the literally the 15 grain or 250 grain thing going past your face and I'm laying there and I hear as it like goes past this Humvee and hits something metal in my vicinity and I wake up and then I was like and uh I had I had over pressure sickness so I was like [ __ ] my pants what's over pressure sickness some where it's like being concussed and it's not being concussed it is being concussed okay so like a bunch of small concussions from explosions and IEDs and RPGs and 50 Cals and at-4s like all the things that we're shooting at them and all the things that they're shooting at us all of those things go with air and that's happening around your head yep so that sucks um and then we're at altitude and then I'm sleeping underneath a Humvee which is probably not a great place while [ __ ] yourself yeah while you're [ __ ] yourself um I smelled I bet that was pretty stank anyway so yeah I don't know when I slept I just like occasionally would wake up and when I was writing that scars and stripes and I went back and I talked to a whole bunch of people that were there with me um one of my friends Mike he died in 2019 Afghanistan he was with me he saved my life that day Mike Goble I walk up to a door I don't know how he knew this uh cuz I woke up I walk up and I'm about to push the door open and as soon as I touch the handle of the door and it's a push door he shoves me and he and I always like were kind of physical like we're all almost always going to fight over something stupid I got mad at him because he was carrying a pistol through a village and he wanted a pistol kill and I was like you're sitting on a machine gun why would you be holding a pistol put your pistol away and we end up fist fighting the team Sergeant came over and separated it's like we're always like really rough so he shoves me and I I like fall back and I'm like getting ready like we're in the middle of a gunfight and I'm about to like start a fist fight with him because he shoves me and the whole door starts getting shredded by Machine Gun fire there's a PKM on the other side and I don't know if he like heard the bolt drop I don't know if you heard the selector switch the say safety getting pulled I don't know if he just had like an intuition if there's a six sense divine intervention he shoves and the whole door just starts getting shredded Mike Goble and uh a hero I wish everybody learned about him there's another multiple tours you know countless lives he saved more people he rescued like hero um Mike English I even can't even say his last name because everybody because he's still in but uh the fog of War um when I went back and talked to all these guys they remembered a whole bunch of things that I didn't remember and we in some cases the things that we were remembered were in conflict of each other like I thought it happened this way no it didn't happen that way that's right like there were a bunch of women and kids that got hurt after that door got shredded because when that door got pushed open I saw a machine gun barrel sticking out of this tiny little window and I take a grenade a frag grenade and I throw it through that window the grenade goes off and a few seconds later I hear a bunch of women and children screaming now a few seconds later can be anything in the brain in war right that might have been 10 minutes but I remember it being like very shortly after like it was a a response to my Grenade on the outside of the building my friend Mike K was on a big heavy machine gun pounding this this compound where there he saw a bunch of insurgents fighting out of it specifically that room where those women and children were so for 10 years I lived with like I'm the one that hurt these these these people that had been used as body Shields by the terrorists and he for 10 years had assumed that he was the one that had hurt everybody and he was living with that for 10 years we both did right like it's War that's how do you think about that that's certainly one of the things you know when people hear stories like that especially if they're not familiar with collateral damage and the imprecision that happens especially when you're going house to house especially if the terrorists are using civilians as body Shields or if you're just going door too with things there families and people in there yeah how do you think about collateral damage in that way the fact that you know there's someone who didn't do anything wrong that is in the midst of two people trying to kill each other yeah um obviously America wants no collateral damage if you go back to um World War II you launched a surprise attack against us in Pearl Harbor and we fight you all the way back to Mainland and take every single Island that you used to own and then make it ours and then we tell you to surrender and you don't we drop a nuclear bomb on you then we tell you to surrender and you don't and we drop another nuclear bomb on you and we tell you to surrender and if you don't we're going to drop another nuclear bomb on you like that's winning a war that's that's winning a war in a way that we can't we don't have the appetite to win Wars anymore um the moral equivalency of terrorist organizations like Hamas and Hezbollah and the Taliban Al-Qaeda and Isis they intentionally use civilians as Shields they intentionally use hostages as Shields they intentionally manipulate the battlefield for the moral consequence of the fighting force that has to fight against it they want to hurt our souls they want to hurt the civilians because if the civilians get hurt by us as we're trying to be strategic and targeting the bad guys not the not we don't want any collateral damage at all we want zero but they make it so that it's impossible for us to be successful without any form of collateral damage and that's exactly what they want because that that continues it's another spok in the wheel of their propaganda machine so then they say like look all these women and children were hurt because the Americans or the Israelis came in here no no you did that on purpose you were hiding um a rocket launcher at a hospital you were hiding a bunch of arms in a school and then you put all the kids in the school and you wanted us to Target it and then you leaked out information that those weapons were in the school and that and then you also leaked out information that highle leaders were there at the specific time so of course we targeted that time to get the highle leaders and the weapons but then you put kids in there anybody that tries to conflate this moral coeny between like the Hamas and Israel's response you can just separate them in this one specific idea one group of them are hiding behind civilians and they use that as leverage and opportunity to create more propaganda the other group is doing everything in their power to limit civilian casualties and any form of collateral damage and the line of departure between those two could not be more clear and anybody that says anything else is ignorant and totally doesn't understand it or is so in um confirmation bias trying to support the set of beliefs that are not based on fact they could not be more dissimilar and shame on anybody that conflates those two I was speaking about the Nagasaki Bomb Blast do you know the Forgotten Highlander by Alistar urart no dude I gotta I I'll get this book for you it's my favorite non-fiction uh sort of real life story so this guy is a Scottish dude who goes to Singapore in World War II Japan enters the war he gets captured by the Japanese and for the next four years goes through more more than I think pretty much anyone that I've ever read about so this guy is put in forced labor for the best part of two and a half years he's uh made to help build the bridge over the river qu um he's basically permanently got every tropical disease including dentry for all of this time he's being mistreated then one of the camp guards tries to rape him so instead of allowing him to do that he kicks him in the nuts and runs away he then gets locked in a tin box in the middle of the son to basically just cuck to death doesn't die then after that gets put onto one of these Japanese hell ships which doesn't have the Swiss cross on the side that gets torpedoed by an American submarine doesn't die finds a small piece of Flom and floats in it has to fight a Japanese soldier in the water one in like a little bucket and the other on this piece of flum doesn't die lands ashore and is free briefly but then gets recaptured no put back to work gets knocked off his feat by the Bomb Blast from Nagasaki still doesn't die and then for 50 years keeps quiet by order of the British government and finally writes this Memoir to bring the Japanese to account for the atrocities that they went through because we had the nurenberg trials we had this sort of Call to Arms for what Germany had done but the equivalent thing didn't seem to happen in the same way for the Japanese yeah the book is outrageously good it's called The Forgotten Highlander outrageous I'm in yeah it's really good um other thing as well I remember there's this great is it um World War II the front lines it's on Netflix at the moment so they used AI to colorize 4K all of this sort of archive footage which is very strange because you're not used to seeing Olden timey war in a more vibrant sort of real way it's always archive footage has this it gives you a sense of Distance by it not being as sharp right you you were talking about the sniper is able to see the face the the expressions of the person and it humanizes them this really humanizes the story not sure I can handle this it's it's pretty rough but it's also fascinating because it's so much more immersive yeah um if the Japanese hadn't uh decided they were going to surrender the US was basically preparing the largest land invasion in history that's right right and they were I think they were still unsure about whether or not Japan was actually going to surrender because it was like we will fight to the last man woman said that behind blade of grass would be a Japanese soldier or a civilian with a sword behind every blade of grass in Japan the in the mainland so America when we looked like why would we drop two nuclear bombs um that would have cost that cost fewer lives than would been Millions that's right so like wait dropping two nuclear bombs saved millions of lives yes it did try to explain that you know welcome to 2020 24 what's it like to be shot have you been shot I have okay what's it feel like yeah um well so I've never actually been F shot in war and uh and for me protecting um it's a really weird thing seeing a barrel pointed at you and then seeing the flash um I was obviously in body armor and I and I was being really particular so I like rolled my shoulders back and I was hold I was standing like this and I pulled my chin back cuz I didn't want any like flag or things coming up into my neck or into my shoulders and my arms um I've seen friends get shot in war and I've have obviously shot people um on like the receiving end of in a gunfight uh so one of my friends had a uh around go through like his groin and it missed his like for moreal artery um but his like balls started like swelling up so like a little bit of slag like a little bit of like I think trap like went up into his not sack they started like bleeding in there and like started getting really we had air we had to air vac him out but he didn't realize that he'd even been hurt or hit until like he had a gigantic set of balls you know he was still like that wasn't like that yeah like what is going on down here and um they in Band of Brothers there's this amazing scene where this guy this uh grenade goes off and he looks down and he sees that he's bleeding below the waist and the medic runs open and he's like got you and he like Cuts him up cuts his trousers open he's like hey bro you're good like hey your your dick and balls are still good stay with me you got the will to fight now you're like it was like this essence of when you think about Warriors um like they're War Warriors in every sense and their manliness and that masculinity are very much yeah entwined with their theiry get your dick blown off if if best possible yeah but to the bullet question like mostly they're like did I get I got hit you know like what the [ __ ] do you see this yeah you know like they didn't even recognize that there's a bullet hole in their arm or like I'm trying to use my arm it's not working well I guess you've got this Cascade of hormones the cortisol the adrenaline all the rest of it so it's just like I don't know that's why that's why I was so interested to work out how much pain versus how much surprise there is I I have this sort of idea I snap my achilles which is the most traumatic injury that I've had pretty nasty injury yeah yeah yeah uh and the first thing that I felt wasn't pain it was surprise I was like did I why is my leg not and I thought to myself I wonder how many people you know we think about your final moments on this planet being you thinking of your loved ones or or you in pain or you in fear or you in whatever I think surprise will be up there as one of the leading emotions that people pass away with did I just get [ __ ] I hope so that's a great way to go um you know when I'm hunting I try to be a really ethical Hunter and uh you know I I I even try to be on the left side of surprise you know that animal is just sitting there eating grass dead before chance to be like what what was that oh no there's nothing can't even figure out what it was cuz it's just Blackness now um I don't know I can't think of a time where I was hurt in I mean even in the fights in the UFC you know cut wide open like this was Robbie Lawler this was yel Romero um this was Jacare Souza you know like I got one from Luke rockold right here um and and after the fights the UFC fight dock he'd come to stitch me closed and um you he'd walk in with like a local and like I don't I don't want that he's like uh yeah I like no I'm serious so my face closed and i' never let let him give me any form of painkiller I wanted to feel it but I didn't really feel it and then in the cage I definitely didn't feel it it sounds like a really hard thing to do but your body is just producing so much yeah and I also I mean there's a bit of me that wanted to feel it like I made this mistake I want to I want to remember this mistake like the purpose of pain I'm writing a book right now called the purpose of pain and um the lessons that we learn from Pain are I think the most important lessons emot emotional pain you like I Bat Out of My League like hey that crazy Latino girl that's like an 11 I'm I'm totally gonna be with this one and then she tries to stab you at night um you're like maybe you bat it out of your league bro like go with the seven um and similarly like I I touch a stove and I burn my hand I know that not to touch the stove again you know like I think back to all the mistakes and the humiliation and the shame that I made as a as a young man and now as I'm hoping to be an improved man I'm like I don't want to do that again I remember what that embarrassment felt like uh you've worked quite hard to try and and you know we've spent a good bit of time together since I've been not enough by the way yeah I know that's your fault yeah it is my fault but I passed my driving test finally because there's no license equivalency but that means I can drive up and see you up north okay um you spend an awful lot of time trying to do everything the way that you want to do anything um whether it's with alcohol with training we did a session you came up to me in Roa I hadn't done any cardio work in quite a while and it was a pair's workout of that was going to last maybe 30 minutes or something in four stations three stations he came up to me and he pointed your finger in your in my face and you said there's one thing that we not going to be and that's the last that was quite motivating um my point being do you think that you're a good man now because you have this backdrop of not believing that you were a good man when you think about you who do you see do you see the old Tim are you still paying reparations how do you how do you think about that I mean what is it we'll get philosophical like what is a good man um I think it a man should always be judged by his actions and um obviously if you if you look back to periods of my life uh my actions were not in support of being a good man I mean even some of the motivations of when I was going overseas like all these idealistic things about hey you can go and make a place a more stable and and Sovereign Nation you can give them democracy like those are really great ideas but there was also a 25-year-old version of Tim that was like I want to go and get in a fight you know like I want you to say something so I can knock your teeth in like I'm happy to be a bouncer at the door for the opportunity to do viol um all of those obviously are not great characteristics um and so even though I was doing good things I was looking for an opportunity to do bad things now if we are what we do what are the things like if anybody were to take a step back and look at their life and you're spending eight 10 hours a day working at a job that you don't love to go back to a woman that you don't appreciate to be around kids that you don't want to feed and nurture and be intentional with are you a good person I don't I don't think so um but you could have that exact same situation where you're working eight to 10 hours a day to be the best provider you possibly can for the woman that you love that you know she needs to um that you want to be able to support and provide for and put you know good food on the table for the kids that you love to support them going to Club Score Sports or to a private school or to get them out of this crappy public education th in like the only thing that changed there was the action still the same but the purpose was different Y and so now for me my purpose and my actions are in alignment and they they they didn't used to be and now I very much try to to have those things be complimentary it sounds like you led with action and then allowed the intention to kind of catch up to that yeah the wheels were always spinning but the car wasn't always pointed in the right direction yeah I think that's an easiest way to do it one of my friends Alex talks about um I felt much better about myself when I started judging myself on my actions not on the thoughts that I had and I think that that's a really good first step especially if someone is unsure about how virtuous they might actually be deep down where maybe they're cowardly or maybe they're untrustworthy or maybe they don't fulfill their potential or maybe they shy away from hard things or whatever it might be the first place to start I think the easiest place to start is to just change the things that you do and then allow intention to catch up after that because dude it's so hard it's so hard to change your sense of self you know how long have you worked at it to try and basically you know pay recompense you know this kind of like life of flagellation like self flatulation in in service of something to be like and finally maybe I'm a good man yeah um but I think it's way easier to start with action than it is to be like I think I'm a good man and then this is going to go ahead because you're always not going know yeah I I could not agree with you more when when people are asking and I get asked all the time man what should I do like do anything just start yeah you know like cool you want to be a police officer well start developing the characteristics that make you a good one start learning Grace in different cultures join Jiu-Jitsu start shooting learn what it means to be like somebody that wants to protect somebody and sacrifice a portion of themselves at the for for at the expense of themselves for the benefit of another like these are things that we have to have in somebody that is a servant you want to go to the military learn another language like if you are not planning your future somebody else is going to be planning your future for you so if you don't know what your purpose is sometimes you can just start doing things that will make you a better person and those things will give you purpose and that's okay um sometimes the cart is before the horse and that's okay you know like I didn't know as a firefighter EMT first then I went to the police academy to become a police officer you know to go and hunt down serial killers and then 9/11 happened and I enlisted in Special Forces and then from there I went to other specialty schools to go to special units and then from there you know like I started these gigantic NOS that go and rescue people over the planet and now I'm working within the military and a military capacity and like my official role to like save soldiers and help with recruiting and to talk about messaging and clearly communicate how great of an organization it is and how wonderful it is to be part of this organization and to do something impactful that means more than yourself and if you take a step back you're like me he's always kind of been going in this direction the wheels were always spinning it it's been imperfect and now that there is momentum and a little bit of experience and plenty of failure now now there're we're starting to see positive impact but man it took 25 years yeah it's a slow you know to chip away at whatever sense of self and and to adjust the course it is like uh moving a freighter right it's one half degree every single year and you're like right okay finally I can actually get this thing to swing around are there any you mentioned that memory before of I thought it was the grenade and he thought it was the machine gun that's obviously something that's played on your mind are there any other memories that sort of are common recurrences for you or the someone who got away someone who didn't yeah oh man we could go we could spend hours talking about this Chris the uh there's a squirter out of a house in Iraq what's that mean um so you go to this building and you like attack this building and it was a bomb maker this like this IED bomb maker house and I was myself and this other colleague of mine were on one side of the house and we see this guy running down this road now we were fairly confident that that guy came from this building and if he came from that building he's a military aged man outside during curfew and came from a Target house um does he fall within our engagement rules yeah he does this is like Peak War this is like we're 100% Ro y able to shoot that guy we didn't we go to a follow on Target and we get in a pretty good fight um clearly that guy and this is an assumption I don't know this but I think this guy went and told them we were coming and they got ready for us to come that weighs on you like that was my fault like why didn't I just press the trigger um and shoot this guy in the back at night I your eye twitching it's a hard question and it's not a question that I wish my son is ever asked but like that's the question that I was asked I mean you go back another 10 years um a 19-year-old firefighter EMT there's this school uh van this missionary van that's driving on the 101 in in just north of s Louis biso California um just south of Atascadero California the driver falls asleep maybe 70 80 mes an hour and the car spins and tumbles out of control and these women and children in this 15-pack van are just launched out of every single window and when my firetruck arrives on scene in the middle of the night um you know I grew up in this area where it very kind of agricultural when we roll up the dust was still settling and through the emergency lights and the headlights it created like a horror film kind of Aura you know like this the the dust you can't see everything but man I can still smell the fall dry grass and I can still smell the the no moisture in the in the soil that was like hanging in the particulates in the air and I can still hear you know we shut off the siren as we roll up on the scene and I don't know how we didn't run over people because bodies were everywhere and thank God we didn't we uh we get out and I can hear I see what we call walking wounded there's people wandering around holding their arms that are like dislocated and broken you see these compound fracture this guy like holding his leg and um but then we hear like the moans of a child not the screams of a child that is hurt but the the pain is so serious they can't even cry anymore that's a different sound entirely and um that truck we just go to work um I'm a young firefighter EMT I don't know anything you know like I graduated from EMT school in the fire academy six months ago and I had this really senior paramedic an engineer his name was Tom way and we start working on all these people and you know we're trying to stabilize these people and we're trying to triage who's going to be evacuated first I remember I hear Tom on get on the radio and he calls to station number one cuz there's two fire stations and a tasket Arrow he's literally like just send everyone you're like if they can get on a truck if they can get on an ambulance get them here every volunteer every paid called firefighter send everyone you got 15 people let's just say it takes four or five people per body you know you need a lot of firefighters and paramedics and EMTs so I start working on this little girl um she's 11 maybe and everything on her was was hurt you know like I couldn't see a inch of her body that wasn't broken and [Music] um I'm strong I was you I was a professional athlete at this point already and I can't remember I remember telling myself like how do you touch this girl without hurting her like how do you help her without causing more damage like um she's not breathing right it was like this raspy inhalation um with broken ribs and Tom wayy comes over and um Tom goes I have this Tim go find someone else and he just pushes me and it like launches me and um I go and I start helping I start helping triage and separating and and segregating the people that are going to be immediately transported and the and the ones that have to be like evacuated directly to the hospital and I thought that that girl died my whole entire life until four years ago and um and I thought Tom in his wisdom was trying to save a young man from the failure of saving this little girl's life the last sentence of this of this chapter of my book when I found in the research of this book that that girl survived was [ __ ] Tom way that guy not just saved me but he saved that little girl and um I play back had I stayed there had I been that stubborn boy that knew that that I was and I tried to save that girl I would have killed her but [ __ ] Tom way he comes in he saves this 11-year-old broken girl and I go off and I do the thing that you'd expect an 18 19y old guy to do which is like you know grab people and carry them to ambulances you know and like harir you're blun tool that's right yeah and um May I lived with that for 25 years of I killed that little girl I get home that night I'm covered in blood you know and I walk in the front door and I remember my dad he comes to the door and he's like uh Keith agis who was the captain at the time he had called my dad and said hey Tim had a real tough call tonight um just make sure he's okay and I walk in the front door and I was like Hey Dad I'm going to go take a shower or I'm going to go to bed and my dad's like uh why don't you go take a shower before your mom sees you and I'm like no I'm fine I'm just going to go crash I'm covered in blood and mud and I was going to go fall down on my bed and I didn't realize I couldn't walk I couldn't breathe and I was and I was crying I actually never said anything to my dad I was just trying to move past him to go to my bed you want to talk about like emotional and mental overload and my dad recounting this to me he's like you never said anything to them to me that night I just tried to move you to the shower to get you cleaned up and then lay you down and this is the first time that I ever personally experienced uh you know post-traumatic stress um and in my family we'd we'd experienced lots of different forms of of death and trauma but this was something that was like very me and I remember like they they said I had to go to you know a a group trauma class I was like I don't need to go to that and my dad's like bro you're gonna go to that and um yeah you've been working with a lot of veterans at the the moment on this stuff what's the current state of Veteran mental health what do you seeing in them and what about yourself as well yeah the um it's been really hard after 20 years at War there's a failure of I think there's a a feeling of failure so GWT glob war on terror Iraq Afghanistan North Africa um now we're standing on the backside of it and were the reason that we're there is questionable the actions that we took why we're there is questionable support of the people that you were fighting on behalf of is questionable yeah the people coming home that should be receiving us as servants to this country are looking at us like Abominations you know like we're we're broken things the same in Vietnam to some degree as well right yeah yeah very very very similar I was just talking to a Vietnam vet about it he's like man I'm it's like I'm living you yeah I'm living through all this again that's what he said exactly almost verbatim he said man I know what you're feeling um and so there's regret and yeah they're they're struggling active duty is struggling um young men first coming back from deployments are struggling and then men that want to go on deployments but then missed it because timing is really hard like a a unit will deploy and you arrive to the unit and your unit has already gone that unit then gets um has some casualties and Returns the guy that didn't go has a ton of survivors guilt even though they didn't survive they missed they misses guilt yeah but I mean that it's it's the same thing it's the same thing and those guys are also dealing with a bunch of like they didn't actually experience any trauma but they didn't even get to contribute that's right and it just eats in a and a and eats at their soul and it you know it's it poisons that the vessel um so just to interject that have you got any idea why Survivor guilt would exist like adaptively evolutionarily what is that therefore is it that you've seen other people pay a price that you should have paid and you're concerned about not carrying your weight within the tribe do you think that's what it is yeah evolutionarily if if we look I should have been stronger I should have been better I should have been more equipped I should have been more capable all of those things are um responses to survivor's guilt and if you weaponize that then in you know in a tribe if if if the the tribe's Warrior goes to a battle and he comes back and they do okay or maybe they could have done better and he comes back and he has like I wasn't fast enough I wasn't strong enough I didn't I couldn't throw my arrow or I couldn't throw my spear far enough I couldn't shoot my arrow far enough all those things forces him and motivates him to to come to become a better person so like I think there's some elements of that M um so Survivor guilt yeah lot of it and we've done a really terrible thing in America which is told people that there's easy fixes to hard problems where you can take a pill and you're going to be better you you can be take a pill and you're going to be less fat you can pick up your phone and you can have food delivered um it's just a lie and when it comes to mental health and physical health those things seriously overlap um when people look at me I I think often is I'm I'm a crazy person because I'm I work you know how how you do anything is how you do everything well I do everything this way so I can deal with all of the stuff that I've seen and I've done you know like I work out every single day be because I need to stay healthy I eat clean I sleep well um all like the Litany of all these millions of little things that I do to make sure I'm a healthy version of myself is so I'm also a mentally healthy version of myself one of my friends I was just visiting a couple of days ago you know he starts going through a divorce he stops eating well he stops exercising starts um drinking a little bit like you see the the writing is on the wall and every single one of those steps it's just one decision any one of those things is okay but when there's 10 12 14 16 of them then they're all compounding creating more depression and more um instability on the mental health side he can't cope with it any longer and then he's like fantasizing about suicide and this easy exit and he's trying to make you know a permanent solution to a temporary problem and we see it time and time and time again the only way that you can stay on this side of right is being faithful and intentional in all these little tiny things so yeah I'm ton spending a ton of time on in this area trying to encourage man go outside you know go ride motorcycles go be with your kids you know go grab your wife take her on a great date and um you know like have a great night with her and then have a great night's sleep and then wake up with a smile on your face and go to the gym and then go hop in the sauna and then go hop in a blue cube and do like some legit cold water immersion um and every single one of those things just makes you like your coat of Armor gets a little bit thicker and a little bit stronger and I'm and of course there's chinks in my armor like like I have days that I struggle and uh but like I also watch these arrows just like [ __ ] [ __ ] you know try to launch another one and I try to give this armor to other people because like it's a really great feeling when you don't when you're not living your life in fear and you're not struggling with depression and you're not you know it's so free to be Sovereign what are the US Armed Forces getting right or wrong with their post operation treatment and care for veterans yeah they they're realizing it's a total human optimization right like it's not uh Hey I'm going to put this guy in counseling that sure absolutely helps but I'm also going to give them access to Great gyms I'm going to give him access to dietitians I'm going to like we're going to be revamping the whole entire uh CZ cologne the former seak the senior listed The Joint Chief of Staff he just recently retired he has this great program where he's going to go across all of Department of Defense and and he's a freak athlete Special Operations guy tier one level dude he's going to all of the different organ to all the different um departments and changing how they view F food so like if you walk into a chow hall or a the Air Force calls it a dining facility um you know like there's not a fast food aisle where you can walk up and I want you know cheeseburger with fries that's not an opt that's not an option anymore it is right now um you know and you can get like spaghetti and meatballs no like go get a chicken and a salad fatty um and like the soda pops got to go um all the sugary sides and desserts gotta go all that fried stuff got to go um like there's going to be some pouty faces about it but like that's what you have to do that's so they're doing lot a lot of things right um the military gives a ton of really great tools to a person they teach them leadership they teach them communication they give them grit you know they give them the tools to make quick critical decisions um we also now recognize that we give them bad habits you know we give them addiction to caffeine we give them addiction to nicotine we give them um bad sleep habits we put them in places just like Native Americans when we put them in the worst plot of land on the planet and hope that they do okay like you take a soldier and you drop a soldier into a a not hospitable place um that Soldier is going to climatize and compensate yeah in the place that he's in like have you ever been to clean be a fun experiment for you so if you drive one hour north to Fort Hood now Fort kajos it's a gigantic army base that's 1 hour north of Austin the city that's just adjacent to it is called colen it is the most depressing place on the planet there's car dealerships that Target Soldiers with 25% interest rates for their you know 2019 Mustangs you know there's strip clubs there's um storage facilities that they you know Soldier is about to go on deployment he has to put his stuff in storage and they're like oh but you don't have good credit that's okay it's a parasitic industry that's built up around the base yeah to to take advantage of young men that don't have experience or a fully developed brain yeah wow it's wild man that's rough yeah yeah it's um I was talking to Michael Punky higs do you know Michael no I know that name though so he was Master Chief wherever wherever they Master Sergeant whatever those are two very different things one's in the Navy and one's in the Army one's amazing one sucks okay I can't remember which one it is uh I feel like one of them is that not the guy from Halo as well anyway um he has been doing a psychedelic treatment but he he just sort of took me through a bunch of different challenges and there was a a lady that I'm friends with and her husband's been struggling PTSD post as a veteran and um Iber is the particular substance that they were using and uh she and her husband have been battling alcoholism on his side for a long time he's been trying to cope and back and forth 12-step program all the rest of it and they heard this episode this is maybe three years ago now and she said would you be able to put me in touch with Michael and sure enough we did uh and the husband went and did this treatment and as as far as I'm aware this is like a rough psychedelic it's 24hour incredibly deep very existentially painful and it does resets to the brain that are more powerful than most other pretty much anything uh and now he's back and he's flourishing and all the rest of the stuff but it's like it's not it's not a One-Stop shop for everyone it's I just throw loads of drugs at them and they'll fix it change the diet change the friends that they've got with them it's this Global Omni approach yeah the army or the dod as a whole is a allowing psychedelics for I mean which is wild you know like we we're so slow to get there um I have a bunch of friends I've never personally um experienced any drug and but I have a ton of friends that have you know traveled outside of the United States because it wasn't allowed here in the United States and dealed with some really serious trauma via psych delics and they came back transformed humans I mean they were like broken depressed suicidal alcoholics woman womanizing like broken men in every way shape and form and they come back I'm like easy you know like I I literally want to be around you all the time reset completely and now they're like back to the amazing young man that I remember 20 years ago what do you wish if there's someone listening that has served or just someone that's suffering with sort of trauma in their past would you wish that more people would hear or realize you're not alone you there there's every everybody that has served in some former fashion especially in war is is carrying baggage emotional trauma and um and you're you're not alone not just that other people experience this but other people care about you I think that's a big thing that everybody needs to know is like you feel so alone and isolated when you're in these really low moments it's just not true you know like if you go if you're gone Michelle young this stunning beautiful Staff Sergeant in the Army just committed suicide a couple of weeks ago she's supposed to be in Las Vegas with us a week she's been in this community she was a fitness influencer she's like blonde and just like bikini supermodel she committed suicide two weeks ago and her her daughter had her 12th year birthday says she's a single mom honey I'm so proud of you I love you happy Birthday a couple of days later she commits suicide what was she going through that she felt so alone you know and she had to of right unbeknownst to her there were there there are thousands of people that know her and and um support her and wanted to be there for her but she felt alone and it and it's just not true so everybody listening like the thing that I want them to know is they're not alone the other big part is that individual responsibility part we're like we're saying sometimes you can just start doing little things and Tiny Little Steps hap that happen consistently over time when you're in that moment of Crisis you put a little bit of time and space between you and a bad decision just a little bit and you wake up in the morning and you walk outside we've been hearing the rain you know like I want to go outside and running that rain so bad you know and I want to see the sun come up tomorrow and I can't wait to go see my four-year-old tonight on the ice and I can't wait to go home because I'm making pulled pork um sandwiches for the you know for the family it's they're going to be Dynamite um you know I can't wait to get weird with my wife and like all the things I can't wait for are because of a bunch of little decisions make me look forward to tomorrow and even if you know I go home and I pull a cork tonight and I and I pull a couple of drinks and I start thinking about um the mistakes that I made the friends that I've lost even that one that bad decision or a few of those bad decisions can't hold up to all of the other things that I've Done Right is momentum that's right and I want to carry that momentum into life and into hope and into uh another day the problem is that the momentum goes in both directions right right it doesn't just go when things are going well it also continues when things are going poorly and that's the escalating spiral that people find themselves in and I I say there's no easy solution but if you are really in crisis you like 911 there's a phone number 988 now you just pick up the phone hit 988 and it's like the 911 for you being in a bad unhealthy place a risk to yourself that's right you pick up that phone if you're a veteran you literally just press the number one and it takes you to a veteran that specifically wants to know you and know about you and is and is trained to talk to you specifically wild we've never had this before ever like this just happened this year pick up the phone hit 988 and it goes to a mental health huntline and if you're a veteran you press one and it goes to a veteran to talk to you wild sick speaking about bad decisions what was that story of Isis making incredible threat against you yeah what a bunch of cowards though um so this is like Pete calipat you know Isis is taking over Northern Iraq and they're starting to gain ground and they're capturing people and art and American Arms and they're selling it on the black market and like a bunch of land that we had fought for we were losing to Isis they were also trying you know they they had radicalized a whole bunch of mosques in the United States and I get a call from the FBI saying that Isis was trying to recruit somebody locally to find me and my family and where we lived to come and kill us and I was like I say can you say that again and the GU like yeah we're they're trying to find somebody locally to kill you and your family I was like that's [ __ ] sick that's such great news dude I've been traveling all over the world what you're telling me is that these idiots are going to come to my house in Texas so I call my friend that works for Fox News he like hey man can you put me on live and they're like yeah I'm like all right check it out so my address so I get live on Fox News and I say my address live on Fox television I was like you can send absolutely anybody that you want to my house to try and kill me and my family just know that you're never going to get them back I'm gonna kill them all how did this go down with your wife she was so mad at me yeah she like she's like I'm out and she like pops smoke just for like a day but then she came right back cuz you know I got the goods and no not really she was really mad but um not it wasn't surprising that they of course they're so tough when there's like 20 of them and they're attacking a village that's unarmed with a bunch of little girls they would they they don't even like deal with one man that would like stand up when I say like be that somebody um in every situation it always only takes one person fear is contagious but so is C you know when one person stands up and is like no this is wrong and then somebody else is like yeah there's something off about this I agree with that guy and then it just like a tidal wave of Courage just spontaneously combusts amongst all these people and they're like [ __ ] no you can't do this um you know I had hundreds of people being like we'll sit on your street all night long you know we're setting up rotating guards and I was like I don't want that man I need a conus kill like what do I got to do what's a Kus kill oh yeah so um when you go out speaking to a muggle yeah when you go outside of the continental US and fight abroad you are oconus right so like getting fighting and killing a terrorist in Afghanistan right um that's just like a war ohus yeah okona but if you're in the United States and let's say you in Kina at you're a Christmas party and this terrorist that has been radicalized walks into this Christmas party and plans to kill everybody because they think Christmas is bad because it has to do with Jesus you know and they're like and you're like poow Kus kill right sick have you got one you no ruined it yeah loser uh and was there any was there ever any more come upin about that n the FBI was pissed at me for a little while um the news was pissed my wife was pissed um were excited I was was welled I was hopeful yeah yeah you immediately went on whatever it is like big guns.com and got more no I didn't need anymore yeah Hope's not a plan it just didn't pan out to be anything super funny story I was in the usada um the United States anti-doping pool because I was a professional athlete and I was driving home during this period And I see this car and I kind of lived in this area that there's not a lot of through traffic so I see this car you know following and makes a turn makes turn makes a turn like five turns later they're on my street and they slow down as I turn in my driveway and he pulls up in front of my house and by the time you know he puts his vehicle into park he has a gun in his face right you would have shot the usada guy that's right I'm usada I like all right let's go get my piss I imagine that there's a lot of athletes that would have probably quite liked to have shot the usada guy yeah they they were pretty sure J Jones would have probably been able to shoot the usada guy that would have been a solution for him I don't think he needs any more drama what a talented athlete though uh biofire have you heard of this so it's a smart gun that was invented by a guy who started working on it after the Aurora theater shooting uh fingerprint and facial recognition and it only fires if the right persons what do you think of smart guns lame why they're stupid I don't want that um wait so can my wife shoot my gun you add users to the profile yeah uh who controls that profile you suppos just you like safes that I'm only supposed to access unless the FBI calls the manufacturer and gets permission to gain access to my safe without a subpoena warrant that happened this year probably not as secure as that you got subpoena to no I didn't this was something that happened this year I'm just giving an example of okay if anybody else has so this second Amendment thing nobody gives me authority to this inherent right for me to protect myself and my family the government is not saying that I get to protect me and my family this is my god-given right to protect me and my family this is not somebody has access to a program to give me the tool to protect my family I just have this right and I have should have access to any tools that I deem necessary to protect myself my family my property and even more by extension Freedom so against the tyrannical government by over government overreach you know it's it's not just like hunting Sports and me and my family this is hunting Sports me and my family and if the government gets too big and gets too nosy into my life this is what happened in 1776 like we were pretty cool until we weren't cool and then you guys started asking too much of us and then we said no and then we killed all of you that's a I know this is a hard thing it's a very difficult day for I've survived two July 4th since I've been here I actually wore a t-shirt that said happy treason day ungrateful Colonials I wore that on on July 4th last year yeah it's it's a hard thing to wrap yourself around unless this this is what pumps an should be pumping in Americans blood it's like we are Rebels we have always been Rebels you cannot tell me what to do there's nothing that you can say to me every single one of those beautiful amendments in that fantastic one of the best pieces of words ever put together in history is the Constitution and it says that those are our god-given rights and nobody has a right to control those the freedom of speech freedom of religion freedom of the press like o overreach to you coming into my home like due process the right to bear arms all of those things are my rights so like no I don't want a system I don't want a fingerprint I don't want FAL facial recognition I want a Canon and I want a Gatling gun minigun attached to my motorcycle and I want a tank and I should be able to have it I'm pretty sure the Black Rifle guys have got a minigun attached to a Tesla we did that is that you yeah I mean no no that that was Matt and Jared right but you've played around with right okay we were trying to talk Elon Musk into building a trebuchet that would launch A tes Tesla at what at anything an enemy no oh my God this sh Teslas be awesome I mean any electric vehicle should just be launched into the stratosphere except Teslas cuz they're pretty fast they're pretty cool yeah talk to me about the state of the American education system this is something you're spending a lot of time yeah thinking about and assessing at the moment um well we'll go to the Genesis of it which is as an employer and as a senior non-commissioned officer me looking at the people coming to work for me in either one of these occupations and looking at this population of this generation and being like you're dumb like you literally are an idiot you have you can barely read you have no way to collaborate you have no creativity in you like there's there's not even a speck of Genius in there and there's no grit there's no teamwork there's you've you've you've been taught how to be a consumer you've been taught how to sit there as a lemine and go through some systems and processes of like sit here use this pencil use this paper write this way do this thing you get this grade to take this test to then say that you've passed that level what how is that applicable to real life how can somebody go through public education and then think that they're going to be usable in the real world as a Creator a designer a teammate in any form or fashion in any industry they're not they've not been taught anything useful they don't know how to balance a checkbook they don't know how to change a car tire they don't know how to fill up a car they don't know how to like they know nothing about the world they don't have to do a spreadsheet for a profit and loss statement like the second graders in in in our school take a product they design the product they take the product to Market they Market the product and then they go back to the school and they give a presentation about the performance of that product in the market so we had this ad adorable little girl take a bunch of mason jars she went and bought kinetic sand and then she went and bought toys that were themed she took a loan from her parents for a couple hundred dollars and she built a bunch of these mason jars some had astronauts and like space things in them some of them had like mermaids and fish in them and she used blue sand some of them were like green sand and brown sand with dinosaurs and she sold them for $25 at the farmers market she made a couple thousand she paid her parents back the the few hundred that she took bowling yeah and then she went back and briefed her p&l on the performance of her product is she she's nine right and do you know I would do for a 20-year-old that could do that she's a nine-year-old and I argue that that the presentation from that 9-year-old is a thousand times better than anybody than any resume that's come across my desk in the past 5 years 9-year-old in that same time frame in this project we had a kid that went to his parents Ranch and he he would spend hours in the afternoon collecting antlers and horns from all the different wild exotic animals that they have on the property and he was building furniture with them so he he made like a lamp and he um he cut them and put screws on them so you could use them as hardware for like dressers right I was think think that you were going to say that a 9-year-old tried to construct a chair that might be a highrisk thing to sit on I'm not sure how yeah really like really cute usable things and of course his dad helped him and he took this and sold those things launched a an e-commerce market and was selling them online on Facebook Marketplace he was selling them on um he had like three or four different Online ways for him to sell it and made a few thousand dollars and then we had this other kid that went and took sticks and he thought that that stick looked like a gun and then he tried to sell that stick as a gun and he sold no sticks and he went back and he he saw his two classmates that made thousands of dollars that put effort into their products and then he sat there embarrassed and his parents were mad and it's perfect because that kid just learned the best lesson he could possibly learn which is failure and what it looks like to have effort and discipline and intentionality and somebody that actually practices the the process of what we are teaching them about how to launch a product and in his embarrassment then motivated him to go and do better on the next release and but he learned that lesson at nine I learned that lesson at 35 so Socratic and project driven learning Socratic uh this is not new Socrates this idea that this learner driven environment you take a bunch of young people and you allow them to lead the education process so they're making millions of decisions in a day what chair they're going to sit on what pencil or pen they're going to use what kind of paper they're going to be use if they're going to be using an iPad to be taking their notes ultimately like they have to perform like here's the things that you have to do um if you want to go outside and play okay show me your work you didn't do your work you actually have to sit back down and do your work they're pissed right well you're over there in the corner bouncing on that little bosou ball not doing your work but Johnny is over there and he sat down he put on his headphon started listening to work music and he knocked out his work and he's already outside playing so in a day they're making all of these you know hundreds if not millions of little decisions on their own they're not being told where to sit they're not being told how to do the work they're GI they're given the tools they're guided so we don't have teachers in the studios we have guides in the studios and just like Aristotle and Socrates and Plato all of them were guides they were literally like mentors to these Young Learners trying to learn how to critically think and three years ago we opened School number one last year we opened our online mentorship program when we recognized that this is working we just need to give the keys of the castle to as many people as possible then from the my my partner Matt bu just a dynamite hard worker like everything that you'd want an educator realizing from the online mentorship program that the benefits of the brick-and-mortar environment that is conducive to learning how do we give not just intellectually everything that they need but then also physically like hey here's a space for you and your family and family is a key word here because we really do believe that the nuclear family is the strength behind a young person learning like if you think that you could take your kid and just drop him off and you're going to be given back the product that you want without you putting some form of effort and um if you have if you don't have skin in the game if you send your children to Caesar you will be given back Romans I don't want a Roman right I I I want to be intimately involved in what my children become and nobody cares about them more than me so as the online mentorship program exploded this year we'll open 50 new app in the United States and then I promise next year we're going to open 200 more and then the next year we'll open 500 more and I will defund and abolish the Department of Education in the next five years like it's going to happen what's the problem with what they're doing at they're not doing anything what when was the last time you've seen an American School the the kids are not learning how to read they are failing math our ASVAB scores I hate that I have to keep going ASVAB it's it's the military entrance exam it's it's like your sat when you graduate to see how you stand against all of the other kids at your grade level on an equal playing field to get acceptance into college except that those acceptance levels are difference per gender and per skin color that's idiotic but that's the way it is not Merit based that's a completely different conversation I'd love to have but it's not the one that we're talking about right now the test for kids going to the military we were talking about how fat they were and how mentally unhealth unhealthy they are and also like their substance abuse and some criminal history they're also dumb the ASVAB scores have been dropping every year for the past 25 years so the kids are getting Dumber you have a a litmus test you have a a yard stick and measured against the same thing yeah that changes but the difference and it looks like this and presumably the ASVAB is being um [ __ ] with less than entrance exams for University because those are moral this is just a standardized testing that's given the exact same test has been given to you know millions of kids at this point across this nation for the past decades yeah for decades so you've always got this barometer that you can measure this generation versus 20 years ago yeah so like as not good not good this is this is a problem and then you know when you look even here in Austin and a Texas Florida they really are and I really hope that Texas does push through the school Voucher Program Arkansas already did it Florida's going to be doing it the school voucher program is so you if you own land here you pay property taxes that property taxes pays for the school that is in your ZIP code y um if your kids don't go to that school it doesn't matter you still have to pay for that school that you don't use but what if you have kids and then you pay for those kids not to go to that school you pay extra and then you pay the same amount as everybody else in that zip code for that school to exist that your kids don't use so you're being you're paying twice for Education even though you're only using half of it the school vot V School voucher program is there's money allocated per child and that money is a tax credit that's given back to the parent so they can use the money how they best want to for their child maybe it's to send them to public school maybe it's to send them to a specific kind of school because that kid needs a specific kind kind of education um some of it like whether it's going to be monor or it's going to be Socratic or it's going to like whatever the form is going to be it's going to be tailored to that child and that money is going to follow the child uh it's it's been brought up in Texas multiple times and it's almost passed multiple times so the apog program apong online app strong.com our school here apog Cedar Park so we're a North Austin School you know we have anybody can apply like literally you know we're taking applications right now for 2024 school year and um every corner of this building is Magic like there's Giggles there's laughter there's joy there's Harry Potter there's comic books you know there's there's drawings on the walls there's um engineering schematics there's new designed tanks how well at what age do you take them up to I mean College right and how well are the I don't know whether you've done this yet because of how short amount of time you've been around we outperform everybody in every metric of measurement including college applications oh yeah yeah our our kids dunk on everybody literally make everyone else look silly so when you're at the University and you're in um reviewing all of the applications and you have okay this SAT score um this kid is coming from this school you know he was he or she graduated um with this GPA they were involved in these extracurricular activities cool and you're comparing that against all other kids in that same format and then you get a packet and this kid has been working started his own business he um is apprenticed in this very specialized program um he has letter letters of recommendation from these Fortune 500 companies that he has been working for and Advising and Consulting he also has higher scores than everybody over here and he has the same GPA as everybody over here but for some reason his essay is so dissimilar to everybody else over here because it's real and life experience so it's the the standardized testing that I think people have um skepticism around whether it be first of all those should not exist standardized test how does that help you it is the equivalent of the ASVAB that you need a barometer up against you can measure everybody else in a way which is standardized or else it's like okay well this person wrote an essay and this person did a piece of art how many pieces of art is this essay worth it it's the reason we have currency we have currency to make ease of Exchange in comparison but if the whole entire point of this entire organization is to prepare this population for the test compared to this group of people that is preparing the entire population to be constructive contributing members of society but then still perform the same on the test which group of this these two comparable groups which one would you like to to select from A or B well yeah obviously that one obviously right if you can achieve the same you still need the test at the top to be able to it's it's the easiest thing and they perform at the same on the standardized testing and I'm even arguing that they so surpass all other betri all the ways that you can measure their performance they end up being not even comparable it's like apples and oranges it's like these useless kids and these like extraordinary anomalies and these unicorns that like you can't hire and accept fast enough that's currently what we're experiencing so and there's data because we're not the first school to do this this is has been you know acting here in Austin started it Acton Academy Montas yep Jeff sandur yep you know there there is lots of Heritage data Legacy data to support this um so it's not like I'm creating anything new I did not create anything doing it in a different way I Lally just like I took a lot of the best of a bunch of different forms of education and then I made sure that family was the center and the nucleus of everything so like we go after the parents like if you think that you're going to be part of the apog family and you're not a hardworking fit intentional father like you're joking yourself we had thousands of people apply to open schools and we literally just like opened an Instagram or Facebook and we see a f fat bodied soft dude that's sitting there pulling a Bud Light next you know imagine your kid not getting into school because of you as it should be that's interesting it's interesting to think that when you go to when your child goes to school you go to school again as well yeah at least Care at least like want to be yesterday I laced up my skates crabbed my hockey gear and hopped on the ice with my four-year-old and my eight-year-old do you know how long I've been on the ice for as long as they've been on the ice right do you suck I suck yeah I'm terrible okay but man I can I can would that's not true I'm literally better than every single dad there every single one of them because they're not on the ice because they're not on the ice I was playing tag with my four-year-old on the ice yesterday and I'm of course I'm like I watched a bunch of YouTube things and there were specific drills I was trying to do why I was playing tag with my four-year-old like how to when I'm skating forward to turn left and then skate backwards and then turn right and skate backwards like those were all specific drills that I looked up so I went on the ice with intentionality not just to play with my daughter which I wanted to do but also develop as a person and as a skater so I can in some way shap or form at least show my my kids that I want to be involved with them and I was I was wearing half lacrosse gear you know why I own lacrosse gear because you fall over a lot yeah um because my kids play lacrosse right like I've never played lacrosse I've never played hockey but I'm going to do it because they're interested in it you know like if my daughter please don't start but wants to learn how to um Play The Cello I'mma [ __ ] learn how to play the cello what are the principles for raising kids that you've discovered that you think most parents don't realize time they don't care about their stuff they don't care care about how clean their H your house is they don't care um how the rest of the World Views them they care about how you view them they care about the time you give them they care about what meal you cooked for them they care about what games you were sitting there cheering for you know the first um takes about 20 30 minutes to get dressed uh to play hockey um so my wife will leave first with whichever kid is going to be playing get them ready get on the ice and I show up with the other kid 20 30 minutes later the first time that the kid that's playing scores a goal the very first thing that they do is look up into the stands to see if Dad is there you know my my big girls the first time that they went on stage for whatever their performance were and they looked out in the audience and and I wasn't there because I was overseas do know what kind of like damage I did to those girls you know the the ab test here of like me being here for every single one of them and me being absent for every single one of them like thank God their moms are amazing and they're like those girls are just incredible and their resilience is astounding but swimming Upstream without dad that that's right yeah I remember I did a I was a swimmer in uh school and I've got like this memory seed into to my mind when I won the backstroke at the end of this big competition and I looked up and dad was there crazy so fulfilling yeah there was a an idea I came up with after I sat down next to tuck a Max at dinner about nine months ago or something love that guy so he's a good guy he's Cut From the Same Cloth as you um so I'm going to take you through this now so it's uh called the [ __ ] you family okay [ __ ] you money is a meme but it's also a truth there is an amount of wealth that you can achieve where typical restrictions and conventions no longer apply to you you don't need to suck up to The Gatekeepers you don't need to do things that you don't want to do in extreme situations you don't even really need to follow the law similarly [ __ ] freedom is kind of Downstream from [ __ ] money but also can be achieved through cultivating a lack of resilience on other groups there are no restrictions on where you can travel to and when and for how long you don't need to show up to work on time or work at all if you're sufficiently well structured you don't even need to care about the state of the economy or the power grid or The Wider world but I've recently learned about another type of [ __ ] you liberation one which is significantly cheaper more accessible more common and maybe even more powerful the [ __ ] you family many fathers I've spoken to have told me about how their priorities were completely changed upon starting a family all the previous status games they played seemed Petty the admiration and gamesmanship they used to play in an attempt to impress people in power or those with status seemed Juvenile and shallow much of their anxiety around whether people liked them or thought they were cool evaporated the only people they needed to care about impressing were now asleep in their house to their kids they were the the coolest richest strongest most heroic person on the planet and that gave them a very type powerful type of Liberation it seems to me that much of what young men get up to are surrogate activities until they finally find a family this isn't to say that all fathers become Placid soy boy hippies or that having kids new as your ambition but it definitely seems to open up a new realm where they care far less about the flatsome and jets some that used to occupy their lives bro that's it man that's it but that's also the definition of sovereignty you know I like I keep hammering this idea of sovereignty like I'm there's nothing external that can touch anything internal and internal is me and my family the nuclear there's there's no government body there's no medical organization there's there's nothing that can affect my family and I love the I mean it's profane but like this [ __ ] you idea it is it's so to the point and it's so on the nose and it's so correct and there's nothing else that more important I totally agree once you recognize this that guy driving the fancy car that gets out that's like you know he seems so pathetic and the guy that's like hey I just got this new raise at work you know I just got this promotion I'm like I pity you like I I I feel sorry for you you know the guy that's like trying to build the brand and like looks so good online his social media he has you know a couple hundred thousand followers right now and I'm just like I want you to experience that because that is Indescribable that I can't like that is a drug that can never um you can't have enough of like you'll never be satiated from the thing that you get from giving back to your family what would you say if there's fathers listening who don't think they have that they they haven't been fulfilled how can they reconnect with their with their kids and that sort of sense of purpose for their family yeah those little the little bits like it's not there's not a handle that you pull and all of a sudden you know like how many practices do you go to a week how many games do you go to in a month how many um afternoons while they're doing homework have you sat there at the kitchen table with patience and Grace and tried to help them and I'm like what do you mean you don't know what 5 plus 5 is or five Time 5 is you're like every one of those opportunities is an opportunity either hit or missed and when you take a step and look like there's thousands of them in a month and just start hitting more of them 1% more and then 2% more and fortunately like if you've been a bad dad all you can do is go up like all you can do is get better B set quite low yeah yeah like I I I I try really hard to be a good dad and I go to my wife like last night um as we're having like Pillow Talk time it's like how can I do this better you know how how can I be better and you know she's like more time you know everybody wants you to do something for them you know but we want that too and how you allocate that time I realize that you can't be you without doing these other things you know if if the Bahamas kick off with this terrorist group that's taking advantage of the Bahamas yeah like anywhere that there's money in tourism there is Criminal organizations that are looking for opportunities to take advantage of them okay okay um you know Venezuela could pop off um Central America America you know even Peru with Ecuador and um Venezuela and Brazil Honduras all right I'm going there next week yeah it's fine fantastic thank you Kennedy Yeah Yeah Yeah Tim you said the terrorist weather report came back negative for Honduras this week I would like to tell you that your predictions were incorrect you enrolled oh your um so there's a a program called steps which is the state something what does it stand for it is the Department of state's tracking of you as a tourist traveling abroad so you get notifications from Department of State you told me about this before it's literally like a weather report for like how dangerous is important thing to do but that's before you leave but then once you're overseas they they know that you're there so they they ask for like your travel dates like what day do do you arrive so then a person like me when I go to Department of State and I say okay how many Americans are currently in Israel that aren't that are tourists that need to get CU if you go to October 7th and we didn't know if this was going to go high and right like is hezb going to be coming in you um you said that you predicted it being more kinetic than it was which it's still very kinetic but you thought it was going to be way worse what I um Israel man I know people get so mad at Israel has done a really good job keeping this not going full Regional Warfare Hezbollah wants an excuse to come in the the houthi wants an excuse to come in you know like every single one of the pro- Hamas Iran Taliban Al-Qaeda every single one of those organizations has been looking for an opportunity and enough popular support for them to come in Israel is doing the best that they can to Target specific terrorist sets in Gaza that conducted the most heinous sets of rapes and murders and tortures in current by I mean probably since Holocaust this is the worst thing that we've seen happen to the Jews since Hitler was gassing them and so Israel is doing it the best that they can with the really difficult situation that they're in but I thought that the north border was going to kick off I thought that the West Bank was going to kick off I thought that Egypt would gotten a little bit spice on the south border I thought Jordan would have gotten a little bit uh more so I you the reason that we were there of course was to get a Americans out but like had it gone a different direction which is this slow grinding War Hamas wanted this to go kinetic that's what they wanted that's why they did it the way that they went like the reason they went out and raped everybody they could and tortured everybody that they could is because they wanted a overwhelming and overbearing response by the Israelis with an overbearing overwhelming response by the Israelis would have given given them a ton of propaganda to then go to all of the other nations and be like look what Israel is doing these disgusting murders they've killed tens of thousands of us poor Palestinians trapped in here you're the you're the ones that did this um but that's what they wanted and now that it didn't happened now they're they're kind of like crap what were your thoughts after spending time with vivec you got to catch up with him recently dude I love that guy why because everybody has are beliefs I have my beliefs and I I think I know why I believe what I believe he can articulate why I I got a bunch of time with him and he can explain not just the reason that he has those beliefs but then he can also articulate what he thinks the solution is to the problem that is a very different thing than what's currently happening in politics right so somebody goes up there like Trump gets up there and he's like blah blah blah blah and then Biden gets up there it's like blah blah blah blah blah and they're like they're spouting all this rhetoric but who is walking up and be like this is what I believe this is why I believe it this is the solution to the problem and I'm going to articulate the steps for us to be able to accomplish it blown away by uh by the depth of his understanding in a world that he's never worked in which is the American government it's crazy yeah he uh verbally is incredibly fluent like very very canny Communicator um I like some of the stuff I've seen on Twitter where he does his debate prep videos have you seen this and it's him topless doing like forehand smashes on the tennis court or doing burpees in his house he calls it debate prep and it's you know a counter signal against the fact that he is taking care of himself physically which I don't think he can say for much of the rest of the presidential room Kennedy Kennedy looks good Kennedy's jacked we had dinner with him yeah and uh yeah he's a big boy yeah the um there there are some rumors that Trump was looking to Kennedy as a running mate and I was like what would that look like um I'm just so frustrated with American politics right now you know but it's about to get more intense the next whatever nine months yeah why why are you so frustrated we're after Pearl Harbor um the the leading general of the Japanese military is quoted in saying we have made the worst mistake possible we have awaken we have awoken the sleeping giant which is the American people and we gave them Unity um and America United is like an insurmountable Force nothing in history has ever experienced or seen what we can do when we're together you know from World War I to World War II um and then you see what happens when we're broken and divided and fractured when the Vietnam and GWT and our current economy and mental health and obesity and the broken family um and both sides like the Republicans and the Democrats are just fighting for portions of a pie and not even portions of a pie they're they're fighting on these outlying groups of these radical ideas and playing into these Fringe beliefs but not even paying attention to like the core ideas that are America and I would really like a United America and I think we're way more united there's like 5% on either end that are pretty radical um like no you should not be cutting body parts off of prepubescent children because they think that they're a thing that they're not and they're born the wrong thing you know and similarly like you should not go and kidnap a governor because she doesn't align with your political beliefs like from the far right to the far left these are fairly obsolete groups the other 90% are like man I want to live my life I want other people to live their life you know like cool you want to marry a dude that's fine you know like don't tell me what to do with my kids and don't tell me what to call you because like that's my choice and that's my belief so as long as your beliefs don't extend into my beliefs were good as long as your freedoms and you can have any freedoms that you want don't extend into my freedoms because I should be able to have any freedoms that we want I think most Americans are like that but right now we're just being segregated and divided by ideas and these um identity politics is just so petty and so pathetic and so divisive if it's not the thing that I keep on asking is like how how much of this is coming internally and how much of this is being motivated by outof country actors yeah at the very least they stood on the sidelines cheering oh no no not the like they're they're they're pain you know millions of Bot accounts that fuel the algorithms social media companies are also seriously to blame for this tech companies Google Facebook meta Instagram um it's wild that we could be like well Twitter's kind of doing okay but besides them YouTube all of them the way that the algorithms work is they want conflict they want people to stay and to comment and to like and to share and to get enraged and get pissed and be like no you're stupid you know and then um they say they these Community guidelines but the truth is they want people to stay on there and use that that Medium longer so of course our enemies are sitting there pumping funds and pumping resources and pumping fake accounts into those conversations to sway the idea one way or another while the tech companies are wanting that to be chaos and Anarchy because they benefit from it because they get more money on the marketing dollar side and all the while the only people that are being hurt by it are the people so that sucks and internally in terms of the politics it's just small land grabs and backbiting I found out I had uh Dean Phillips on he was the guy that founded he he discovered belv of vodka and then built it and sold it with his family and then did tente gelato as well uh and built it and sold it two massive exits and he's now running for the Democratic nomination up against Biden and I spoke to him and he was telling me that current current Congress people spend more time raising funds like 25 hours a week just raising funds because it's an expensive game to be able to play that they spend more time doing that than they spend doing anything else yeah yeah our our political system is broken um and the funds that they're raising are coming from packs and super packs and they're coming from lobbyists you know like yeah I'll donate if you do this thing so scratch back scratch back yeah yeah that all has to go away um elected officials being able to be in the star Market nope um elected officials with multiple more than two terms in office nope um you know the the Pelosi that have never had a real job in their entire adult life and they came in they make $120,000 a year but they're worth hundreds of millions of dollars there's a problem you know and the problem is our American poit political system it's like all of that has to go away the the and if it doesn't happen you know we're we're our beautiful Republic I think is at Jeopardy yeah it's scary it's crazy as well because obviously I moved over here and I have loved my time in America it's so good I the culture is fantastic the people that I found are fantastic I love Austin as a city um and it seems like that is swimming Upstream against structurally what's happening in education I I don't know anyone who looks at the American education system even the most Ardent like supporter of the current thing and goes yeah we're really doing it right no one thinks that it's it's happening well at the moment and then the same thing goes when you you look at politics no one no matter which side of the fence goes apart from maybe the people that are invested in continuing to keep that going the same way looks at it and goes yeah this seems like a really good way to position a super powerful Free Nation yeah exactly put that in my pocket exactly yeah so it really does seem like putting all of the difficulties in the way of something that's supposed to be really great and just ciling it and nerfing it and neutering it and shaving off the edges over and over and over and over again but there's only so long that that can keep happening yeah I'm more of like what I want to do with the tax code which is take the whole entire thing douse it in diesel and then burn it and then From the Ashes we can build something new um that's what I want to do with kind of the education system the political organization in American politics one step at a time yeah I mean one Fireball at a time yeah I I I don't don't think like the gradual steps of change are going to work right now m um you know like of course there's big things if you added term limits if you added age limits if you removed um lobbyists if you removed super packs if you removed corporations being able to contribute if you removed um the quid pro quo behind the scene deals is that something you see in your future would you want to make a you don't want to make a step into politics that's not Senator [ __ ] Tim Kennedy NOP no there there's a there there's like a period of my life that I don't think could be understood by most Americans you know there's um leaving active duty and when I was fighting professionally also working as a contractor for uh Government Contracting you know those are hard things to explain and it will come public you know and then yeah yeah okay Tim I appreciate you man thank you for coming through appreciate you thanks for uh being flexible for weird times we're busy dudes always work out boxing swimming and uh some electric motorcycling all of that sounds great where should people go they want to keep up to date with the stuff you do uh the Constitution should reference that first and then uh Tim Kennedy anything with a verified thing anything else besides that to stop me all right so that's it I appreciate you thank you man take care thank you very much for tuning in if you enjoyed that episode with Tim you will love my 2hour Long podcast episode with the one and only David Goggins which you can watch right there [Music]