Godlogic Tries To “Clarify” A Verse But Gets Roasted By The Actual Bible! Hashim | Speakers Corner
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The video features a heated debate between two speakers regarding the interpretation of Jesus' statement in Mark 13:32 that "no one knows the day or hour," specifically addressing whether this includes Jesus himself. One speaker argues that the term used for "know" in this context implies declarative knowledge—meaning the ability to announce or declare information publicly—rather than cognitive knowledge, which is internal understanding. To support this, he uses analogies such as asking someone what they ate last night or checking a bank balance; in these cases, one might know the answer but refuse to tell others because it is private information. He contends that Jesus knew the hour cognitively but was not authorized by the Father to declare it, similar to how angels might possess knowledge of an event without being able to announce it.
However, the opposing speaker challenges this distinction as a logical inconsistency, pointing out that the Bible explicitly states Jesus knows all things and grows in wisdom, which contradicts the idea of him being ignorant or unable to know the hour. The debate escalates when the first speaker attempts to shift the definition of "know" based on context, leading to accusations of changing meanings mid-argument. The second speaker counters by reading the subsequent verses in Mark 13 and Matthew 24, which describe signs preceding Jesus' return and emphasize that even the Son does not know the specific timing, reserving that knowledge solely for the Father. This is further reinforced by the parable of the master leaving on a journey, where the master represents the Father who knows when he will return, while the servants (including the Son) do not.
The discussion concludes with a broader theological critique from the first speaker, who argues that the Christian concept of the Trinity leads to contradictions, such as Jesus dying and growing in wisdom, which would be impossible if he shared the same omniscient and immortal nature as the Father. He asserts that Islam offers a clearer doctrine where only Allah possesses complete knowledge of the Last Hour, eliminating the need for complex scriptural gymnastics or conflicting interpretations. The video ends with mutual acknowledgment of their differing viewpoints, though the debate remains unresolved, highlighting fundamental differences in how each tradition understands divine attributes and biblical authority.
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Oh,
I don't have space for this one now.
>> [laughter]
>> All right. So, last time Godwin, when we
spoke, we talked about Jesus not knowing
the last time if you remember that.
Yeah. What he did was you clipped one
part of it and you missed out the answer
I I response I gave you. You stopped on
the bit where it says to tell, if you
remember correctly.
No, no, hold on. I just want to tell you
where where you actually cut the reel.
So, when when he says to tell, what is
your understanding?
Declare? What does it mean?
I I want to correct you where you went
wrong.
No, no, no. Because you you said No, no,
no. You said tell No, no, no. Hold on,
hold on. I'm not yelling. I'm just
correcting you. The term tell you cut
the reel there where it says to tell and
you seem to have
Yeah, yeah, the whole video is up, I
know. But, what I'm saying is that you
did not understand what that means. Yes,
I do. Okay, what does it mean to tell?
What does it mean? TELL ME ONCE again
for my benefit. For my benefit. So, you
don't want to answer the question?
I'm relaxed, don't worry.
I'm relaxed. So, you want to answer the
question?
Answer quick. By the way, can we have
some space, guys? Yeah? Okay, good.
Number number one, the whole video was
up. I already explained what tell means
in the video and to you. You did not say
what tell means. Which is why Hold on.
Which is why that moment happened cuz
you rejected the meaning of what the no
You did not give the meaning. You read I
did. Okay. So, so in the context Yeah,
go on, go on. Number two, I'm not here
to talk No, but I am here to mention
that because IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.
NOW THAT YOU'RE HERE
Now now that you're here, I want to make
this clear. You have to let me speak.
Yeah, I did let you speak. No, no, I did
let you speak. So, you're saying you're
not going to answer the question? What
is your response? No, I'm not. I let you
speak. I remained quiet. Okay, good. So,
now I let you speak. Now you let me
speak. Very simple. about Jesus being a
curse come there, no problem. But, first
I want to clarify this.
First, want to clarify this point unless
you're scared of it.
>> No, you brother, if you want to clarify
you could do a live stream. We did that
already.
>> No, we didn't do live stream. We didn't
do live stream.
>> No, I'm saying you can do a LIVE STREAM.
>> SO, I
>> I WANT TO I WANT
>> YOU'RE HERE. YOU'RE HERE. WHY ARE YOU
WHY ARE YOU HERE?
>> I WANT to have a NEW CONVERSATION.
>> WELL, I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION THE
WAY I WANT. YOU DON'T DICTATE THE TERMS.
YOU [laughter] DO NOT DICTATE THE TERMS
HERE. GOOD. SO, NOW ARE YOU GOING TO
CLARIFY THIS POINT? OKAY, LET ME let me
give you a simple English sentence. I'll
give you a simple. Do you know what I
ate last night? Can you tell me what I
ate last night?
>> No, I don't know.
>> Good. SO, THE TERM TELL here means not
to know.
>> Huh?
>> Huh? English very simple.
>> Wait.
>> I asked you, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT I ATE
LAST NIGHT? You said no.
>> Why not?
>> What do
>> Why can't I?
>> What do you mean why can't I? Okay, tell
me then. Tell me what I ate last night.
>> Why can't I tell you what you ate last
night?
>> Because you can't. You don't know what I
ate.
>> There it is. So, me not knowing is is is
the
>> It says. Hold on.
>> You can't tell. Yes.
>> Me not knowing is the substance of why I
can't declare to you what you ate.
>> No, not declare. YOU CAN'T TELL.
>> THAT'S WHAT DECLARE MEANS.
>> THE TERM DECLARE was not there IN THE
LIST.
>> [laughter]
>> THE TERM NO, NOT ALL THE TIME.
I'LL GIVE YOU
>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO TELL SOMEONE
>> OKAY, CAN YOU TELL ME
>> WAIT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO
>> WHAT'S WHAT'S THIS? CAN YOU TELL ME THE
TIME WITHOUT LOOKING AT YOUR WATCH?
>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO TELL SOMEONE
>> LISTEN, I'LL TELL YOU. I'll tell you in
a minute by this example. TELL ME THE
TIME.
>> WAIT, WHEN YOU SAY
>> NO, TELL ME THE TIME.
>> WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE ABOUT to tell me,
what does that mean when you tell me
something?
>> No, I'm explaining to you. I'm giving
you the answer. The answer IS IN MY
QUESTION.
>> NO, IT'S NOT.
>> It is.
>> No, give me the answer, Hussen.
>> No, I'm telling you the answer is in the
question.
If you are logical and not illogical
>> want to know. What does it mean TO TELL
ME
>> TELL ME THE TIME.
>> What does it mean TO
>> TELL ME THE TIME.
>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
>> Tell me the time.
YOU KNOW WHY YOU CAN'T TELL ME THE TIME?
BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T LOOKED AT YOUR
WATCH. THE REASON he cannot tell me the
time is because he hasn't looked at his
watch.
All right? That's the reason. It means
he doesn't HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE
OF THE TIME JUST LIKE JESUS DOESN'T have
the knowledge of THE LAST HOUR.
DEPENDING ON THIS CONTEXT, IT means you
don't know the knowledge.
>> All right, all right, now watch this.
WATCH THIS.
>> GO ON.
>> Can you tell me can you tell me the
number of how much money you have in
your bank account? Exact number.
>> In my bank account, yeah, I know.
>> Can you tell me?
>> No, I shouldn't. WAIT, IT'S PRIVATE.
IT'S PRIVATE.
GO ON. GO ON.
>> WAIT.
>> YOU DID NOT SAY I DON'T KNOW.
YOU KNOW, UNLIKE JESUS, I DID NOT SAY
NOBODY KNOWS THE HOUR, NOT THE SON.
YOU JESUS SAID I DON'T KNOW. YES, HE
DID.
JESUS DID NOT SAY I CANNOT DECLARE. He
did not say it's private. JESUS SAYS, "I
DO NOT KNOW THE HOUR." BECAUSE HE SAYS,
"NOT EVEN THE SON, NOT THE ANGELS IN
HEAVEN, EXCEPT THE FATHER."
>> I GOT YOU.
>> WHAT DOES IT MEAN? WAIT, WAIT. SO, what
does it mean? Listen. Yeah, wait. You
need to understand what I'm trying to
say. When he says when he says nobody
knows the hour, does that include Jesus?
Because when he says only the father
knows, we both know the father is not
the son, right? So, when he says not the
son, means the son doesn't know the
hour. And anyone who has got little bit
of logic, they will understand this. The
reason I cannot tell you my bank
account, what's in that the money, IS
BECAUSE IT'S PRIVATE. I DID NOT SAY I
DID NOT KNOW.
SEE THE DIFFERENCE?
>> [laughter]
>> SEE THE DIFFERENCE? IT'S IN THE CONTEXT.
YEAH, GO ON.
Go on.
>> All right, guys. All right, so he
>> Jesus says I don't know.
UNLIKE ME. HE SAYS it's private. He did.
He said not the son, not the son.
Yeah, yeah, go on.
>> Okay. So, ladies and gentlemen, we all
heard his point, right? His point was he
was equivocating, telling something to
knowing something. And so, if you don't
tell something, that means you don't
know something. However, we just gave an
example where he knows something, but
refuses to tell it.
So, we see that knowing and telling are
two different things. When it comes to
when it comes to when it comes to
cognitive knowledge and declarative
knowledge, meaning I know something, but
but I don't make it known to you. Those
are two different things. So, with Jesus
in Mark 13, he's not saying that he's
ignorant of the hour. He's saying
Yeah, yeah. Thank you. He's saying it's
not for him to declare it.
Wait, hold on. Let me tell you.
Let me Let me finish.
Because no notice, he said, "I can't
tell you this because it's private
information." Right?
LET ME FINISH.
SO, HASHEM HASHEM SAID HASHEM SAID THAT
he can't tell his bank account number
because it's private information.
Right? He says Jesus doesn't say that
it's private, right? However, when we go
to Acts chapter 1 in verse 6, they asked
Jesus again, "Is now the time?" And
guess WHAT JESUS SAYS, "IT'S NOT FOR YOU
TO KNOW."
IT'S PRIVATE.
HE SAYS
SO, HE SAYS IT'S NOT FOR YOU TO KNOW the
times or the seasons that the FATHER HAS
FIXED BY HIS OWN AUTHORITY. IT'S
PRIVATE.
DO THE ANGELS KNOW THE HOUR? Um I I
would SAY NO.
ARE they going TO DECLARE THE HOUR?
POSSIBLY. OKAY. SO, the angels are going
to declare the hour. Okay. Not the
angels. Not the son.
Does the son know the hour that time?
EVEN THOUGH EVEN THOUGH EVEN though he
says just like the angels No, he doesn't
No, so Not the angels. Not the son.
But now you want to use a different
meaning. No, that's not what I'm saying.
That's not what I'm saying.
You're not listening. Yes.
>> When he when he says when he says no one
knows but the angels or the son, all of
that is declarative knowledge. It's not
cognitive.
>> SO, ALL OF THEM KNOW THE HOUR BUT THEY
DON'T DECLARE IT.
>> NO, THAT'S NOT what I'm saying.
>> What are you saying then?
>> I'm saying that the only thing Jesus is
talking about here is declaring the hour
in that verse.
>> With regards to whom?
>> W-
What do you mean with
>> With regards to the angels as well?
>> The angels
>> Okay, very good. Very good. So, the
angels know the hour but they cannot
declare it.
>> Hey, I didn't say they know the hour.
>> No problem. So, do they know the hour?
>> I don't I don't I DON'T THINK SO.
>> REALLY? YEAH. YOU DON'T THINK SO?
>> They don't know the hour.
>> Okay. So, THE ANGELS THEY DON'T KNOW
OKAY, SHALL we say they don't know the
hour?
>> They don't know. They don't know. I'm
saying the angels don't know. I'm saying
the angels don't know. THEY'RE NOT
>> VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD.
WAIT A MINUTE. IT SAYS OVER THERE, NOT
the angels, not the son.
>> Yeah.
>> Now, because
hold on. Hold on. Not the angels, not
the son. Same wording, yeah? Just the
the subject is changed. Very good. So,
in the first case of the angels, is they
don't know the hour. Are they going to
declare it?
>> Huh?
>> Are they going to declare it?
>> It's for the father to declare it.
>> No, no, no. Are the angels going to
declare it?
>> It's not for anyone to declare it.
>> So, it's not declarative then.
It's like THE WAY YOU MADE IT APPEAR.
FOR THE ANGELS, it's declarative.
>> Can I Can I finish Can I just make it
clear for you?
>> Yeah, go on.
>> Okay.
>> So, I'm saying for the angels, is it
declarative?
>> I I know.
>> Good.
Yeah, yeah.
>> What I'm saying is is that when he says,
"No man knows, nor the angels or the
son." Right? That whole verse is about
declarative knowledge. It's about making
something known, making the hour known.
It's not for anybody to declare except
the father.
>> where in the verse does it say it's
declarative knowledge?
>> The word know in its in and of itself
>> So, know means to declare?
>> The it The word oiden can mean to
declare to
>> What does the What does the term in
English, "don't know" mean?
>> Well, it depends on what you're what
you're asking about. We're not We're not
talking about English. We're talking
about Greek.
>> Well, you you read it in English. Do you
not?
>> Well, we're talking about the Greek.
>> Even the Greek. Even the Greek. In the
In the list of those things, why did you
only pick one word? Because of the
context. What context? The context says
the men don't know, the angels don't
know, Jesus the son doesn't know. Okay.
When he says only the father knows, what
does that mean? Only the father knows.
Is that now exclusive to the father?
I know what you're doing. You already
brought it up last time. Okay. Thanks
for your help.
So, all I'm asking is that when he says
only the father knows, what does that
mean? It means that only the father
declares. Why do you say declares?
Because that's the word he's saying. The
Listen, the term declares wasn't there
in the list. Do you remember?
In origin, the term declare is NOT
THERE. SHOW IT TO HIM, PLEASE.
SHOW IT TO HIM. THE TERM DECLARE is not
there.
Do you know that there's a verse in
Genesis 4 No, no. Please, be specific.
Let's deal with one word for a time.
Okay. Because you read the entire list.
The term declares was not there. NO, BUT
YOU'RE LYING, BRO.
The term declare is not there. YEAH, GO
ON.
YEAH, I'M RELAXED.
SO, you're just lying. That's all I'm
saying. chapter 4, verse 1, yeah, it
says that Adam knew his wife and she
bore him a son.
My question to you is, how do you
understand the verse when it says Adam
knew his wife and she bore him a son.
Did he not know his wife before that?
>> [laughter]
>> It's got no link to this. Yes. It's
about knowledge. So, when it says
knowledge. Okay, so when he says The
knowledge when he says explicitly only
the father knows,
the term only, is that exclusive? Sure.
Good. So, when he says exclusive
Hold ON. HOLD ON. HOLD ON. HOLD ON. You
said the entire passage was declared.
You're not answering my question. Hold
on. You said
No, no. No, wait a minute. When he When
he says Adam
I'm asking you. I asked you and you
didn't answer. No, hold on. The question
says Adam knew his wife and she bore him
a son. Did he not know his wife BEFORE
THAT? HE KNEW THE WIFE BEFORE. OH, so
then what does know mean? I'll tell you
what it means. In that In that term, he
knows her
Okay? Before and after. So, then what
does it mean? BUT IT COMES TO JESUS, BUT
WHEN IT COMES TO Jesus the angels, men
I'm I'm telling you I'm coming there.
When it comes to men, when it comes to
angels, when it comes to Jesus, that
verse Mark 13:32 says nobody knows.
Don't interrupt me. Don't interrupt me.
Let me finish.
And then at the end of that at the end
of that, okay? So here is not because
you already agreed that the angels don't
know the hour.
I'm telling you the answer is in this
point. You have to finish the point.
Yeah. SO DO THE MEN know the hour?
In Mark 13:42, do the men know the hour?
I'm not IGNORING YOU. I SAID I'M
ANSWERING THE WAY I LIKE, not the WAY
YOU LIKE.
YOU ARE NOT ANSWERING MY QUESTION.
LOOK, UNLIKE YOU, I DID NOT GO TO
ANOTHER VERSE.
I STUCK TO THE VERSE.
WHAT?
You haven't.
NO, YOU HAVEN'T.
I LOOK, WHEN YOU SAID WHEN YOU SAID it's
declarative, hold on. When you said it's
declarative
Listen.
For the sake OF THE TRUTH ANSWER THE
QUESTION I'M ASKING.
NO, YOU HAVE to answer the question I'm
asking.
I've answered THE QUESTION. IT'S UP TO
YOU.
YOU CAN WALK AWAY anytime you want. You
can walk away anytime YOU WANT.
I'M NOT NERVOUS AT ALL. ALL I'M SAYING
IS THAT ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS.
ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS.
IT'S NOT DECLARATIVE.
BECAUSE THE angels don't know, you said.
I'VE ALREADY ANSWERED IT.
I'VE already answered it.
That he knew her before AND AFTER.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION?
WHAT?
It means he knew her
He knew her.
And he knew her and he's giving the good
news OF A SON.
OKAY, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY?
ONE AT A TIME. ONE AT A TIME. ONE AT A
TIME. ONE AT A TIME. NONE OF THE MUSLIMS
ARE INTERRUPTING.
SO, TAKE A BACK SEAT, PLEASE.
All right. Okay. So, he knew her.
And then he's telling people that she
bore
Okay.
>> Genesis chapter 4 verse 1, it says
Adam knew his wife and she bore him a
son.
Contextually, what does the word "knew"
there mean?
>> Means he was his She was his wife?
>> No. They already said that.
>> Okay. What is it? Tell me.
>> Okay. Here's another example.
>> Maybe you got the Holy Spirit.
>> Well, yeah. The Holy Spirit is teaching
you, right?
SO, HERE'S ANOTHER
>> I HOPE HE CAN TEACH YOU WHAT ONLY THE
FATHER MEANS.
ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS THE ANSWER.
>> ONE SECOND.
>> OKAY.
>> SO, here's another example.
>> what it means?
>> I didn't hear him.
>> Okay, he said
>> Here's another example. Abra- It says
Abraham knew his wife uh uh Sarah, and
she bore him Isaac.
>> Okay.
>> that mean when it says "knew his wife"?
>> Oh, you mean in that sense that they had
sexual relations?
>> Ah, you got it.
>> Okay.
>> So, sexual relations.
>> Okay. How does IT CONNECT WITH THAT?
>> I'LL TELL YOU HOW. Why didn't it say
Adam had sex with his wife?
>> Cuz that's a polite way to say it.
YES.
YES. [laughter]
>> WHERE DO YOU GET THAT IT'S NOT POLITE TO
SAY SEX?
>> NO, NO. Not the term sex. When you're
talking about Adam and his wife, okay,
God chose these words as respect to
them.
Because he's obvious. He's obvious.
Listen.
When you When you have a wife, all
right? Are you going to declare TO
EVERYONE I HAD SEX AND we had a baby? Is
that how you're going to declare?
No, no. Answer the question.
ANSWER THE QUESTION. SO, YOU YOU LISTEN.
WHEN WHEN God Logic
has a son with Miss Logic you're going
to declare TO THE WORLD I HAD SEX WITH
MY WIFE AND WE BORE A CHILD.
WHAT?
IT IS. IT IS.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT HE'S TRYING TO GET
TO YOU.
WHAT? Do you see My point is, when you
see how the word know is used
biblically, how it can be used in
different contexts to mean different
things, and it doesn't have to translate
to sexual intercourse. Your argument is
is that it doesn't say declare in Mark
13. Why am I saying declare then? It
doesn't say declare. It doesn't say
tell. It says know. My point is is that
the meaning of know in the verse carries
the meaning of declarative.
>> No, it doesn't. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO
DECLARE. SHOULD I TELL YOU WHY IT
DOESN'T? BECAUSE IF IF THAT WAS THE
CASE, SO YOU'RE YOU'RE SAYING it has got
nothing to do with the knowledge of the
hour. Is that what you're saying?
>> Not cognitive.
>> So, what kind of knowledge of the hour
would you have?
>> Declarative.
>> Okay. He's telling you So, HE HE APPLIES
DECLARATIVE TO EVERYONE IN THAT VERSE.
YES. OKAY. SO, in terms of declarative,
let's say they all are going to declare
this or they cannot declare.
So, Jesus cannot declare. Men cannot
declare.
Angels cannot declare. Very good. So, WE
GOT WE GOT ONE PART OF IT out of the way
because every translation of Mark 13:32
that I've seen, it doesn't use the term
declarative.
>> And neither does in Genesis
>> Can I finish? I'm still reading. I let
YOU SPEAK. NO,
I'VE SAID TO YOU
SHOW ME THE SAME COURTESY. IF YOU WANT
ME TO BE QUIET, YOU BE QUIET, SIR. OKAY.
NOW, ONE ONE MORE THING. SO, IS IT ONLY
ABOUT DECLARATIVE or it is also about
knowledge?
>> Okay, so I'm a
Yeah, go on.
>> So, we are done with the declarative.
Now, let's go to the knowledge part.
>> Okay. So, all right. So, this is
declarative knowledge. Okay. Number one,
number two, when you say every
translation This is what I'm trying to
get you to understand.
>> What?
>> When you say every translation says
know,
>> Yes.
>> I agree with you.
>> Thank you.
>> It's not about how the Greek word is
translated. It's about what it
>> One of the meanings is know.
>> Let me help you.
>> Okay. One of the meanings is know. To
know.
>> The trans You're right. Like as in
information. The point is is that it
also means to declare. So, my point
>> Oh, also.
>> Listen.
Just like I said
>> YOU HAVE DONE WITH THE DECLARATIVE PART.
COME ON, LET'S BE FAIR.
>> COME ON.
>> You have done with the declarative part.
>> YOU SAID LET me
>> No, no, no, no, no.
>> And now you said
>> not You are not responding to the
question I asked you.
>> Let you talk.
>> You
Look, look, we already agreed the
declarative part IS DONE. NOW IT'S ABOUT
THE KNOWLEDGE.
>> YOU SAID let me talk.
>> because you said it means knowledge.
>> Let me let you talk.
>> Yeah, I did. But answer the question I'm
asking you.
>> So, now you're going back on it.
>> What's my question? Let's see if you
remember.
>> I already did that.
>> What's my question? Stop
What's my question? Stop What is my
question?
>> All right, so I'm just going to talk
over you then, if that's okay.
>> GOOD. IF YOU DON'T WANT TO ANSWER MY
QUESTION THEN WE'LL JUST
>> THEN WE'LL JUST ASK HIM. WE'LL FOLLOW
WAITING. According to you
>> ANSWER THE QUESTION. WHAT IS MY
QUESTION?
>> your your argument Your argument is "It
has to say the word declare in order for
it to mean that." But you just
acknowledged that the word "know" can be
used for sexual intercourse even though
it doesn't translate sexual intercourse.
But you understand that's what it means.
So, this is a bad argument.
>> Okay. We have already dealt with the
declarative part. All right, SO NOW NOW
do you also agree THAT THE TERM "OIDEN"
means knowledge? No. Okay. SO, NOW WE
HAVE DONE with the declarative part.
Let's deal with the
No, no, we haven't. Does man know the
last hour?
>> No.
>> Okay. Do the angels know the last hour?
>> No.
>> Do Do the son know the last hour?
>> Yes.
>> It doesn't say that.
>> Yes, it does. He knows He knows all
things.
>> He says "NOT THE
NOBODY KNOWS THE HOUR." I'LL TELL YOU
WHAT THE VERSE SAYS. "NOBODY KNOWS THE
HOUR. NOT THE ANGELS in heaven, not the
son."
>> This is
>> Stop interrupting. Stop shouting. I know
YOU'RE GETTING TRIGGERED. CALM DOWN, MR.
CALM DOWN, MR.
I KNOW YOU'RE GETTING TRIGGERED.
>> IT'S IT'S LIKE, HEY.
>> WE HAVE DONE WITH THE DECLARATIVE. NOW
WE'RE DEALING WITH THE KNOWLEDGE.
>> NOT THE OTHER.
>> We are dealing WITH THE KNOWLEDGE. NO
WONDER YOU'RE GETTING TRIGGERED.
>> NO WONDER YOU'RE GETTING TRIGGERED.
>> ARE YOU OKAY?
>> YOU KNOW, I GUESS NOT.
>> YOU HAVE TO KNOW
WHEN YOU SAY SOMETHING WRONG.
NOW COMES THE AD HOMINEMS. NOW YOU CAN'T
ANSWER IT.
OKAY. SO, WHEN HE SAYS NOT THE ANGELS,
he understands. It's about KNOWLEDGE THE
ANGELS DON'T HAVE the knowledge of the
hour. BUT THE SAME THE SAME the same
WORDING NOT THE SON YOU USE A DIFFERENT
meaning now. But then
>> I've changed the meaning.
>> You know you did.
>> The meaning Oh, let me say it one last
time Don. The meaning in chapter 13
verse 32 is not about cognitive
knowledge. It is about declarative
knowledge. Okay. Now if you ask me, does
the son know the hour? The answer is
yes. Your question should be how do I
know? Because the Bible says THAT JESUS
KNOWS ALL THINGS. OKAY. So hold on. So I
use the Bible to interpret THE BIBLE.
>> YOU HAVE NOT used the Bible in Mark
13:32. You used two different You used
two different meanings for two different
sentences which have the same wording.
When he talks about cognitive knowledge
for the angels, you said they don't
know. Right? Is that what he said?
>> I didn't say that when it comes to that
verse. I'm saying
>> I'm saying to you that
>> Okay. So look.
>> So now answer the question.
>> LET ME MAKE IT
>> HAVE a cognitive knowledge?
>> HOW MANY TIMES I GOT TO SAY THIS?
>> DO THE ANGELS have cognitive knowledge?
>> Let me say it clearly.
>> Don. Don. Go on.
>> I'll say one last time. If you ask me
again
>> MAKE SURE YOU'RE CONSISTENT. It's over.
>> Okay? I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO SAY it
one last time.
I'M GOING TO SAY IT one last time.
>> Okay.
>> According to the verse
>> Yes.
>> it has nothing to do
with cognitive knowledge.
>> It does.
>> The verse IS TALKING ABOUT DECLARATIVE
KNOWLEDGE.
>> WHY ARE YOU SHOUTING?
>> I'm just saying cuz YOU DON'T
UNDERSTAND.
>> OH, SO YOU SHOUTING WILL MAKE ME
UNDERSTAND. ALL RIGHT.
>> I'LL BET YOU DON'T GET TRIGGERED when
you're wrong, [ __ ]
>> Yes.
>> Okay? It's declarative knowledge. Now
wait. Hold on a second.
>> Yeah, I got it.
>> When you ask me, okay, so does man know
the hour? The answer is no. How do you
know, Avery? Because man's knowledge is
limited and elsewhere Jesus says they
don't know with cognitive knowledge.
>> Okay. So hold on.
>> SO COGNITIVE KNOWLEDGE DOESN'T APPLY.
>> HOLD ON.
>> Thank you very much.
>> When you ask me, do the angels know the
hours? My answer will be no because the
angels are not all knowing. When you ask
me, does Jesus know the hour? My answer
is yes because Jesus is all knowing.
>> not all knowing. That's the reason he
says only the Father knows. John chapter
16. Only the Father knows. WHAT DOES
THAT MEAN?
ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS MEANS WHAT?
YOU KNOW WHAT THAT YOU KNOW THE NEXT
VERSE? THE NEXT VERSE actually clarifies
if it is cognitive knowledge or
declarations because this is what he
said. He never read the next verse.
THIS IS WHAT I WAS WAITING FOR.
SO LET'S READ Mark 13:32. I hope you'll
be quiet when I'm reading the Bible.
Brother, please.
I'm reading the Bible so the Christians
at least respect your Bible, okay?
All right. So it says here,
"But of that day and the hour knoweth no
man,
no, not the angels
which are in heaven, neither the son,
but the Father."
Mark 13:32. What does the next verse
say?
It says here,
"Take you heed, watch and pray, for you
know
when the time is. For the Son of Man is
as a man
taking far
journey, who left his house and gave
authority
to his servants
and to every man
his work
and commanded the porter to watch.
This is the key verse, the next one.
Watch you therefore, for you know not
when the master
of
the house cometh
at even or at
at Sorry, what did you say?
I think this is old English. At even
maybe evening. At even or at midnight.
Or at the [ __ ] crowing or in the
morning. SO THIS IS COGNITIVE KNOWLEDGE.
THE VERY NEXT VERSE TALKS ABOUT NOT
DECLARATION, BUT ABOUT COGNITIVE
KNOWLEDGE. The knowledge WHEN THE MASTER
WILL COME, NOBODY KNOWS. HE CAN COME IN
THE EVENING or he can come in the in the
night or when the [ __ ] when the [ __ ]
crows. The master is the father. In
Matthew 24:32, the master is the father.
The master is the father. He says the
master knows. Not the son,
but only the father knows.
So, the answer is already there in the
next verse. I haven't finished. Wait a
minute. Last one he says,
"Lest coming suddenly
to find you sleeping." That means he'll
come suddenly. You don't know when HE'S
GOING TO COME. NOW, YOU SEE HOW THEY TRY
TO TWIST LIKE THE PHARISEES THE MEANING
OF THE PASSAGES. Even when he says only
the father knows, it doesn't mean he
already said the angels cannot declare
because they don't know the hour. So, it
cannot be declarated that. The The man
doesn't know the hour. SO, THE MAN
CANNOT DECLARE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW
THE HOUR. AND THEN HE SAYS, "NEITHER the
son." THAT MEANS THE SON ALSO DOESN'T
KNOW THE HOUR. THAT'S why it says only
the father knows who is the master like
in the next passage. Go on, man.
>> So, does the master know?
>> Master is the father in that context.
>> So, does the master know? Okay. So, it
says that the master that this this
Jesus leaving, right? That's the hour,
is like a master who's leaving on a on a
on
>> whole street. This is not the master.
>> Wait, I I got you.
>> Yeah. So, HE SAYS HE'S GOD IS THE
MASTER, the father.
>> I'll let you talk, right? All right. So,
it says that this is just like a master
who's leaving his house and going on a
journey and leaving his stewards in
charge, right?
So, is the father leaving? The father
left?
>> In the in the context? Yes. No, the
father is there.
>> So, who's the one leaving?
>> The master. It's a parable.
>> All right. IN THE PARABLE
>> IT'S IN SO, watch this. For God's sake.
>> Watch this. This Watch Watch how bad
this is. Guys, I want you guys to see
how bad this is.
He says He says the master knows.
>> Yes. He said the master knows. ONLY THE
FATHER KNOWS.
>> BUT HE'S SAYING the master knows. But
he's SAYING THE MASTER IS THE FATHER.
OKAY. HASHIM.
>> YEAH, go on.
>> And he's When he says this this is a
parable, what is he saying this parable
is compared to?
>> Compared to who? The the day of
judgement.
>> What compared to what exactly?
>> is of the DAY OF JUDGEMENT.
>> WHAT WHAT ABOUT THE DAY of judgement?
>> It will come any time.
>> No, it's it's not about the day of
judgement.
>> It is.
>> Okay, we'll do this again.
>> Oh, you're doing with this
What are you What do you think this
parable is about?
>> This is why When you said I never read
the verse, you just read it and you
didn't understand it.
>> I understood it.
>> It's giving you the parable.
>> What did Jesus just talk about? What did
he What did he just talk about? First
and foremost, do you agree that only
Wait, WAIT.
>> JUST TALK ABOUT
LISTEN, IT SAYS THE STEWARD who was left
in charge
>> What did he talk about before that, bro?
>> I'm telling you what he's talking about.
Okay?
The With regards to the parable, let me
explain that first. Very important. Yes,
yes, yes.
>> When he says this is like What is it
like?
>> What is like?
>> THE PARABLE.
>> I'M TELLING YOU THE PARABLE explains to
you about THE HOUR WHEN JESUS WILL COME.
>> GOOD. THANK YOU. WE GOT IT.
>> THIS IS THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT.
>> SO THE HOUR
IS THE SON'S SON of man's coming,
correct?
>> Is what?
>> Is not.
>> Is the DAY OF JUDGEMENT.
IT'S THE DAY of judgement.
>> And it's the day of judgement JESUS
COMING BACK?
>> NO.
>> WOW.
>> NO. THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT HAPPENS AFTER
THAT.
>> THIS IS CRAZY.
This is crazy.
>> HOW HOW CAN
YOU KNOW, EVEN LOOK, LOOK, FROM THE
CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE, YEAH, go on, go
on.
>> This is This is not good, Hashim. This
is not good.
>> It's very good. The master knows
HE'LL COME ANY TIME.
THE STEWARD WHO WAS LEFT IN CHARGE, JUST
LIKE THE WAY JESUS IS LEFT IN CHARGE.
>> THE MASTER'S COMING, RIGHT?
>> By the way, you have to wait your turn.
Wait your turn. Not your turn yet.
>> All right, answer.
>> All right, yes, you ready? GO ON.
>> SO WATCH THIS, GUYS. WATCH THIS.
>> HASHIM SAID
>> ACCORDING TO US, THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT,
as Muslims, the day OF JUDGEMENT IS NOT
when Jesus comes.
>> Yes.
>> Very simple.
>> So all right, guys, watch this.
>> How can Jesus not know know
>> Hashim, Hashim, hold on one second.
>> Yeah.
>> So guys, he said that the HOUR IS NOT
ABOUT JESUS' LAST COMING or second
coming.
My goodness.
But in those days, after the
tribulation, the sun will be darkened,
the moon will not give its light, and
the stars will be falling from heaven,
and the powers in the heavens will be
shaken. And then, they will see the Son
of Man coming on the clouds WITH GREAT
POWER AND GLORY.
>> WHICH MAN?
>> WATCH OUT.
>> SON OF THIS MAN.
>> One second.
>> Son of this man.
>> Watch this.
>> You don't even know.
>> NO, WATCH THIS.
>> EZEQUIEL WAS CALLED SON OF MAN. PLEASE.
>> IT GETS BETTER.
>> MORE TIMES THAN JESUS.
>> IT GETS BETTER.
>> GONE.
>> HE THEN GOES on to say, "And then he,
the Son of Man, WILL SEND OUT HIS
ANGELS."
>> UH-OH.
>> Do prophets have angels?
>> It depends. IT DEPENDS.
IT DEPENDS. IT DEPENDS. What did he say?
You know what he said?
>> WOW.
>> DURING DURING HIS CRUCIFIXION, HE SAID
HE SAID, "I WILL ASK THE FATHER TO SEND
LEGIONS OF ANGELS."
OKAY.
>> OKAY, LET ME READ THIS. IS THIS HOW YOU
WANT TO PLAY? NO, NO, WAIT, WAIT. Did I
Did I SAY THE SAME SHUSH? DID I SAY THE
SAME SHUSH?
>> HUH?
>> Did I say the same shush?
>> Sure.
>> Yeah, you got it.
>> OH, YOU GUYS CAN'T EVEN PRONOUNCE IT.
SO, SHUSH.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID SHUSH.
>> [laughter]
>> GUYS, IT IS SHUSH.
NOT SHUSH. SHUSH. SHUSH. SHUSH.
>> SO, HE SAYS THE SON OF MAN IS COMING,
RIGHT? He then goes on to say he's going
to send his angels and gather his elect
from the four winds, from the ends of
the earth to the ends of the heavens,
right? Then he goes on to say, "From the
fig tree learn this lesson. As soon as
its branches become tender and puts out
leaves, you know summer is coming. So,
truly I say to you
>> know the fig season.
>> Truly I say to you
>> Because of the tree.
>> this generation will not pass away until
these things take place. Heaven and
earth will pass away, but my words will
not pass away." Now, WATCH WHAT HE SAYS.
>> WHICH GENERATION?
>> HOLD ON. BUT CONCERNING
>> GENERATION WILL NOT PASS?
>> MAKE SURE YOU ANSWER THAT. GO ON. GO ON.
>> BUT CONCERNING THAT DAY
>> WHAT DAY?
The son of man is coming, right? Why did
he say that?
>> No, no. But concerning that day
>> Well
>> It says but I'll tell you.
>> WE'RE DEALING WITH THE LAST HOUR, YO.
WHAT'S THIS?
>> BUT CONCERNING THAT DAY
>> READ READ THAT NEXT PART.
>> NO, NO, NO. You read it.
>> And I want you to read
>> No, you read it.
>> No, please.
>> You read it.
>> No, you
>> You continue reading.
>> Please.
>> You continue reading.
>> Iqra.
>> I need you to read.
>> I'm waiting for you to read.
>> It says but OF THE DAY OR THAT HOUR
>> NOT THE LAST HOUR.
NOT THE LAST HOUR OR THAT DAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO, WHERE DOES IT MENTION
LAST HOUR THEN? WHAT? WHERE does it
mention last hour?
>> Which With regards to what? In
>> Mark In Mark 13:32.
>> In Mark 13:32?
>> Yeah. Where does it mention LAST HOUR?
>> IT TALKS ABOUT the hour. Okay, let's
read
>> Where DOES IT SAY LAST HOUR?
>> NO, because the translation the
commentaries THEY SAY
>> NO, THE COMMENTARIES SAY
OKAY.
>> ABOUT THAT DAY
>> OKAY.
>> ACTUALLY, NO. SOME VERSES ACTUALLY do
say last day and the last hour, yeah. I
will bring it up. I'll bring it up.
>> This is talking about the last hour. Can
we agree?
>> No.
>> YOU JUST SAID IT IS.
>> I DIDN'T SAY IT.
>> YOU JUST SAID IT.
>> NO, I DIDN'T say it.
>> Okay.
>> Religion of yes, no, yes, no, no, yes,
yes, no.
>> My God.
>> No problem. Shall we Shall we see where
it says last hour in last
in all of the passages of the Bible in
this passage of the Bible?
>> I have no problem if another translation
says
>> No, no, no. But if it is a last day and
last hour, which is what you're asking
me. That's
So, when he says No, the one you read
didn't say last day, last hour.
>> that day, that hour.
>> But not last day, last hour.
>> have to if that's WHAT WE'RE TALKING
ABOUT.
OKAY. BY THE WAY, JESUS IN THAT SAME
passage Listen. Listen. When Jesus said
this generation will not pass
>> No, no. Stop switching the conversation.
[laughter]
>> YOU CAN'T ASK THAT MY
>> STOP TRYING TO
>> OKAY. SO, SO,
>> NOW NO NO YOU DID THE CHRISTIAN shuffle
when you said the angels don't know but
the son knows. WHEN THE LANGUAGE IS THE
SAME
>> ON THAT.
>> NO BUT YOU you did the Christian
shuffle.
>> So do you agree
>> YOU AGREE YOU DID THE Christian shuffle.
>> hour is about the son of man's coming.
>> No, I don't agree.
>> So then oh my
>> BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT THE LAST HOUR LAST
HOUR ON EARTH
Last hour on earth
>> Where does it say that?
>> I'll give you the passage.
>> Okay, it's
>> No problem.
>> Let me say it again.
>> Yeah.
>> You said the last hour on earth.
>> When I said it will be last hour
>> Okay, when it says when you're talking
about last hour on earth
My goodness, this is bad dude.
>> It's bad yeah.
THIS GENERATION WILL NOT PASS THE FALSE
PROPHECY
>> IT SAY THERE?
>> THAT THAT GENERATION PASSED
>> IT SAYS
>> AND THE LAST HOUR this is written
>> is coming in the clouds with great
power. He will go he will send his
angels to gather his elect. Who is that?
>> Who's that?
>> That the son of man is going to send his
angels to gather the believers. When
does this happen?
>> In the second coming.
>> But when?
>> I told you already.
>> When?
>> When the second coming happens.
>> Yeah, but when is that?
>> We don't exactly know that.
How would we know even Jesus didn't
know.
>> judgement day?
>> Wait wait.
>> Is this judgement DAY?
>> DID JESUS KNOW WHEN HE'S COMING?
>> JUDGEMENT DAY?
>> DID JESUS KNOW WHEN HE'S COMING?
>> IS THIS JUDGEMENT DAY?
>> NO, JUDGEMENT day for me is the last day
on earth. That is the judgement day.
>> Let me show you this now.
>> Please.
The last hour and the last day
>> This is bad you're right.
Watch this. Watch this guys.
>> What's that?
>> This this is Matthew 25. Watch what it
says.
When the son of man comes in his glory
and all the angels with him
then he will sit on his glorious throne.
Before him will be gathered all the
nations
and he will separate people one from
another as a shepherd separates the
sheep from the goats.
And he will place the sheep on his right
the goats on on left.
Then he then the king The king of the
damn judgment will say to those on his
right, "Come,
you who are blessed by my father, enter
the kingdom of heaven."
Is this the last day?
>> No, it's not.
>> I'm done.
>> Are you done?
>> Bye-bye.
>> It's the wrist of time.
>> Bye-bye. Because you can
>> of time.
>> I tell you what. I I I tell you
>> All right. All right.
>> YOU CAN GO. YOU CAN GO. YOU CAN RUN. YOU
CAN RUN. BECAUSE ACCORDING to him, Jesus
He said Jesus going TO RULE FOR 1,000
YEARS AFTER THAT.
>> YEAH, OVER HERE.
>> HE'S GOING TO RULE FOR 1,000 YEARS.
IT CAN'T BE THE LAST DAY AND THE LAST
HOUR. THESE GUYS DON'T KNOW SIMPLE
ENGLISH.
THAT'S ALL RIGHT. KEEP RUNNING, LORD.
KEEP RUNNING.
Keep running. BECAUSE YOU SEE HOW HE
WHAT?
WAIT A MINUTE.
YOU SEE HOW HE ACTUALLY MISTRANSLATED
about the angels cognitively not
knowing, men cognitively not knowing,
BUT IT'S A SPECIAL PLEADING case when it
comes to Jesus, even though the same
wording used, "Not the son, but only the
father." It can't be more clear THAN
THAT. NONE OF THEM ARE GOING TO DECLARE.
NONE OF THEM KNOW. THAT'S the reason
none of them can declare, including
Jesus Christ. And how can he say the
second coming of Jesus is the last day
and the last hour when we know WHEN WE
KNOW FOR A FACT THAT JESUS, ACCORDING TO
THEM, IS GOING TO rule for 1,000 years,
a millennia. It can't be the last day or
the last hour. UTTER NONSENSE. AND THE
MOST IMPORTANT PART, JESUS, ACCORDING TO
THEIR OWN BIBLE, HE GREW IN WISDOM.
HOW CAN YOU GROW IN WISDOM IF YOU'RE
ALL-KNOWING? IT'S UTTER NONSENSE. THE
BIBLE IS FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS. I have
cooked this God logic or ill logic or
trust logic once again. Alhamdulillah al
ad din Islam. We don't have this problem
because in the Quran, Allah says only
Allah knows the last hour. Nobody else
knows. You see how clear that is? We
don't have to jump through hoops. Yes,
we don't have to do this
word gymnastics in order to identify
what the meaning of one particular verse
is. So, he has to run all around just to
prove where he's explicitly clear that
not the angels, not not any man,
not even the son knows the hour except
the Father in heaven. Very clear. It's
to the point. But you see, they have to
actually cope in order to make sense of
this verse according to that narrative.
This way.
It's yours, yeah?
>> I think it's this one.
I don't know how to unclip it. You know
how to unclip it?
>> Is it yours?
>> Yes.
>> You should know.
Huh?
>> It's life.
>> Yeah, you should know how to unclip it.
It's on life.
Okay.
All right. So, alhamdulillah, you know,
we know that every time an explicit
passage is there in the Bible, they try
to
interpret it or rather misinterpret it
like the Pharisees did. They have to
twist the scriptures.
And that's the reason we know when Jesus
grows in wisdom because they also
believe that the Father, Son, and the
Holy Spirit, they share the same will.
They all have the same They agree with
all They all have the same knowledge
because they share the same essence.
We know that Jesus grow in wisdom, not
the Father. So, we know that they are
not same in knowledge. We know that
Jesus died according to the belief.
All right? He died by his own creation
according to the belief, but the Father
never ever died. So, we know that God,
the true God, is all-knowing and the
true God is also immortal.
Only the Father satisfies this
condition.
Jesus is disqualified because he
actually fails in both these conditions
about omniscience and about immortality.
He fails in both of these.
Alhamdulillah, we got many other points,
but I think this should suffice.
Jazakallah khairan. Assalamualaikum
warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.
How are you doing, brother? You all
right?
>> You get me so excited every time I see
you.
Sorry.
>> Uh yeah.
>> You don't know what you done to me.
Video off. You did not off.
I'm working on you and you did not do
anything.
So selfish, man.