God Wasn't Pleased With What Jesus Did. He Was Pleased With Who He Was.

[music] >> So yeah, Radiant Podcast here at Rise Shine Conference, but I'm sitting down with Scott Volk, and you're a man of many talents, and you have you're on the leadership team of the Spirit and Truth Network, and you've you do a lot of different things, but we don't want to talk about any of those things. We don't want to talk about what the Lord's put on your heart with sonship and identity. >> I I love that, Sean, and I I just got to say this starting off that one of the greatest privileges of my life, now that I'm 61 years old Oh, [screaming] come on. Is it knowing me? Uh it is >> [laughter] >> knowing Yes. And And as I'm holding the tears back in my [laughter] eyes, oh Lord, help me not get too emotional. >> Yeah. Um it is knowing you. And it's knowing uh Radiant uh the Radiant Church and Radiant Network were unknown to me 5 years ago. >> Yeah. And now it it it holds such a special place in my heart and in my life. >> Yeah. And [music] in for my children who've been affected by Pastor Lee and Jane and the whole Radiant Listen, when you have a son Yeah. >> who desires to spend the first part of the year in a prayer room at Radiant Church, you know Radiant Church is doing something. And I I absolutely love that. So Radiant has Radiant has been just this beautiful infusion into the life of the Volk family. So so thankful for it. But dude, one thing that that's really been on my heart and I believe it's so important for young people for middle-aged people, for pastors, for lay people is the issue of identity. >> Yeah. Oh, bro, yeah. We're We're living in a society where you're appreciated, sadly, only for what you do and and what you bring. Oh, man, you >> Your gifts and your works. Yeah. >> and your works. I mean, if we could get Shawn on our staff >> Yeah. and then you're you're known as the podcast guy or the sound guy or the MC guy or the right-hand guy or or the preacher. Yeah. But when God looks at us, bro, none of that none of that is there. >> It's kind of a bizarre thing. So, here's here's just the one scripture that I I don't know how long if this is 3 minutes or 20. I don't I don't know. >> Yeah, whatever you want. Yeah. >> Okay, but listen, [laughter] listen. When heaven opened up, Jesus was 30 years old. >> Yeah. And he had done in the grand scheme of things ministerially Nothing. Yeah. >> [laughter] >> Like Yeah. No healings, which had to be kind of crazy for him because, you know, if he was 2 years old and there was a person with cancer, he could have blown on them. >> And but so he he actually he lived with that for 30 years doing nothing and nothing of significance naturally. >> Yeah. Heaven opens up at his baptism and God says "This is my son in whom I'm well pleased." >> Yeah. Kind of an amazing >> did Oh, that's interesting. What did >> That was just an affirmation from heaven. [laughter] Yeah. We'll see how long that goes for. Yeah. Uh yeah, no, like literally Jesus did nothing and and it was I am pleased in him. >> I'm pleased. And so it's it's interesting. Everybody around him heard it. >> Yeah. And then what's the next thing that happens? He's led the The Bible says he's led by the spirit into the wilderness. >> Yeah. And he's tempted by the devil and in all three temptations, you know what the devil says? "If you are the son of God, prove it." >> Yeah. "Turn this bread into stone, you know, bow down and I'll give you this, jump off the pinnacle of the temple." Jesus had an opportunity to prove his sonship by doing something, you know. >> He could have turned the stone into bread. Listen, Shawn, I mean, if I was Jesus, I would have said, "I'll show you, devil." Poof, you know, stone becomes bread. But he didn't do it. Why? Because he was secure in his sonship with God with with the Father. The And And I believe, bro, we're living in a we're living in a generation where young people especially they have to you know, what can I what can I do? Exactly. >> way, young people is anybody under 61. >> [laughter] >> As stated. What can I do? >> Yeah. To show my pastor I'm valuable. To show my parents I'm Do you know my kids don't have to do anything to to to gain my love? I don't care if they're a drummer or a podcaster. Yeah. All I care about is they're my kids. Yeah. That's how God sees us. >> Yeah. Yeah. And it kind of bums me out that there's so much transactional relationship in church today. One of the things I I dream about, even where the Radiant Network is concerned, is that we're raising up we're seeing young people raised up not because they're gifted, but because they're sons and daughters of God. >> Yeah. Which is the gift. >> Yeah. >> Right? >> Yeah. >> It And so, bro, I'm just I'm living in a season I'm I'm 61. The older I get the less relevant I'm just being like raw the less relevant I feel. >> Yeah. Like How does a >> It's real. It's real. How does a How does a 30-year-old person look at a 61-year-old versus like uh He's He's 61. Yeah. But >> then even I'm 37 and I'm like it's it's just it's just a difference. Like I I'm like, wait, am I relevant anymore? Like you got all these young 20-year-olds up and coming. Have I Like it's So wherever you're at it's just a sliding scale. >> sliding scale. It's really really the truth. But we can be thankful that our identity to God has zero to do with what we're gifted in >> Yeah. and 100% to do with the fact that we're his sons >> Yeah. and we're his we're his daughters. We're We're not his daughters. Yes. If you're a There are daughters. >> are daughters. There are daughters. [laughter] And I thank God I'm not one of them. But anyway, bro, I I I feel like that's just that's it that's super important. Because we're just going to spin our wheels >> Yes. to try to elbow our way in >> Yeah. to green rooms Yeah. >> or or or or to get on stage >> Yeah. And those things are fleeting and in a moment and they It's like literally it's it's that uh Ecclesiastes everything's hevel. And it's like it's everything's just like a vapor you It's like you you try to grab it and it's just there one and then it's gone the next. >> It's amazing. But I mean think think of the verse in Philippians, I think it's chapter 4. Let this mind be in you >> Yeah. which was also in Christ in Christ in the Messiah. >> Yeah. He didn't count equality with God something to be grasped. >> He emptied himself >> Yeah. became as a servant. >> Yeah. I tell you what, if in the eyes of man you want to be impressive, don't be a servant. [laughter] Yeah, exactly. >> guy at Be at the top Be at the guy at the top of the food chain. >> Yeah. But because Jesus was secure in his sonship Yeah. >> willing to be the guy at the bottom. I've not come to be served, but to serve. Or having dinner with his disciples when >> Yeah. his feet should be washed by every honking one of them. He gets down and washes the feet of even the one who's about to betray him. >> Yeah. You know why? Because he knew from whence he came he was God's son. I I'm I'm asking for more and more of that. Yeah. >> And uh I don't know, dude. I You always love being recognized. You always love Oh, man. Yeah. >> I listened to your podcast or I heard you speaking. You know You know that it it kind of it boosts me up. >> Yeah. And and and that's okay. >> Mhm. But I don't I don't want to glory in that. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> to glory in the fact that hey, God chose Shawn, God chose Scott to be his boys. Yeah. And whether we're on stage or whether we're mopping a bathroom, >> Yeah. they're equally as significant to God. >> so good. >> Yeah. What what would you say like to the cuz you you mentioned in the very beginning like this this applies to the pastor, the non-pastor, the the the stay-at-home mom, the the whatever it is. Like it applies to everybody. Um someone who's like oh, like if they're listening to it right now, I think I'm that touched something. I think I'm struggling with that, but I don't know where to like what's like one step that you would tell them like hey, start here if you feel like you're it struggling with this. >> Yeah, I would well, I would start with reading Philippians 4. >> Yeah. And and that's that's Jesus himself. >> Yeah. Um and start It says, "Let this mind be in you." In other words, if you want it, it's available if you let it. >> Yeah. That but that Jesus, he was all God and all man. It it it doesn't come to us that easily. Therefore, it's a crucifying of our flesh. The first thing I do is I I wouldn't beat myself or ourselves up over the fact that we have a little bit of that in us. That's our human nature. >> Yeah. And I would the first thing I would do is I would say, "Lord, give me grace to see Yes. >> any any unhealthy ambition that I have, >> so good. >> any human ambition that violates Yeah. >> your way of doing things, reveal it to me." >> Yeah, and he will. And he will. [laughter] Well, what what is what search me? Yes, search me and know me. Yeah. >> Try me and know my thoughts. See if there is any wicked way in me and lead me in the way of everlasting. We can't be led in the right way unless we give God permission to search us. And when he searches, dude, I mean, you don't win a hide-and-seek game with the Lord, no matter where you're hiding. He'll If you give him permission, his searches always come out, you know. Come out No. And it's really beautiful. I'm not I'm not a pro Excuse me. Cuz I'm burping on your podcast. 61 Here's the deal. God knows our weaknesses, and he knows our frailty. But there's a reason why the Bible says the weak become strong, right? We don't glory in our strength. We glory There's glory in our weakness because then Christ is raised up. So, the more we can get low, the more And for those who you refer to who might say, "Oh, there's some of that inside of me." All you have to do All you have to do is allow God and You know what happens to me all the time? People forget my name. >> [laughter] >> Did I Do you know the rabbit story? Okay, I'm going to tell you the rabbit story. Okay, here's the rabbit story. Um and then off camera, I'll tell you everything else. But I once went to speak at a church. And the week before I got there, a friend was at that church. And it said, "Next week, Rabbi Volk is coming." >> [laughter] >> And I'm I'm not I'm not a rabbi. I'm not a rabbi. But halfway Halfway Well, DUDE, >> [laughter] >> YOU YOU YOU GOT TO CUT THIS OUT OF THE PODCAST. Oh my gosh. OH MY GOSH. OKAY, I'M GOING to tell YOU THE STORY. [laughter] >> [laughter] >> BUT THIS WAS THIS WAS PERFECT FOR ME. IT WAS perfect for me. Halfway through the week, I get a letter from the amazing assistant to the pastor here. And it said, "Dear Rabbit Volk." >> [laughter] >> And I look at it It was obviously a typo. It was obviously a typo. And I was like, "Okay, I'm not going to tell her it said Rabbit." I I just You can call me Scott. I'm not I'm not I'm not Just call me Scott. Well, flowers came You know, Radiant is such an amazing, generous church that on Sunday flowers were delivered to my wife, Beth. >> [laughter] >> And those flowers came. And it said, "Dear Beth, thanks for letting the rabbit come [laughter] and speak." Bro, it was absolutely perfect. But here's the deal. >> That's a humbling moment. >> It's It's It's humbling, but it's beautiful. I love it. Many times my name gets messed up. You know, speak for churches that still have bulletins. I was at a church with a bulletin not all that recent not all that far away, and it said, you know, "Today's speaker, Steve Volk." >> [laughter] >> I've gotten off of planes, people holding signs, Scott Bork, b o r k. In Korea, I guess Bork and Volk is the same thing. [laughter] Scott Bork. But what it does for me is it it just helps me to realize my My name is nothing. We're here to represent God to the earth. Whether we're standing in front of 10,000 people or whether we're flipping burgers, whether we're a mother changing diapers or the head of the largest women's ministry in the world, God looks at us all the same. And it's not >> We're just like a bunch of kids. We're just a bunch of kids. And um that's That's really, really cool. >> That's so good. >> So for the one who's saying, you know, "What can I do?" I would I would just say, "Let Let's pray. Lord, give me grace Yeah. be like Jesus, to get low. Yeah. That that when I'm changing a diaper Yeah. whether I'm driving a bus I'm doing this for you. Whatever you do, do it heartily as unto the Lord and not to man. >> And I'm telling you in all seriousness, the more my name is forgotten it goes against my flesh, but it it blesses me. It blesses me cuz God's helping me. >> [laughter] >> He's like, Scott, you need this. You need this. Everyone saw he says it wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And dude, let me let me just say this about you and whether this stays in the podcast or not but but you you inspire me. Oh. Because you've got your your full of gifts and I know it. But your heart isn't I I see you serving and that just it's a blessing to me. It's just a real real it's a blessing to me. So thank you for demonstrating that and um and it it it it's it's loud and clear and and I just I I believe the Lord wants to encourage you, encourage me, encourage all of us that we're we're we're not serving a church. We're serving the Lord. >> the Lord, man. >> And and that's really where we we're totally completely fulfilled. >> Come on, man. That's that's so cool. Thanks so much for sharing all that. Oh my gosh, thank you so much. I was asking you like, what do you want to talk about? And it was just like, I have this thing inside of me burning and so it's like I thank you so much. If if anybody wants to reach out to me, it's rabbit at scottvolk.com. >> [laughter] >> Honestly, you should buy that website. I should if I get more more traffic. Oh my gosh. Hey, listen, dude. I'm I'm not sure if that would be good to stay in this. I'll leave that to I'm totally keeping that in it. >> [laughter] >> Wait, was that our church? I remember all of that. >> Check with Lee. I don't want him Is he >> He's He's not going to listen to this. He's not going to listen? [laughter] Dude, it's one of my favorite stories cuz I tell it. Yeah. I don't I've told it maybe publicly two or three times, but everybody's dying. I never say radio show. >> Never, but now >> Now we're going [laughter] to. I'm going to own that one. So, bro, thanks so much, man. Oh my gosh. Thank you. Thank you. Sean, I I love you, dude.