“Follow The Money!” Adam Carolla BLASTS Gavin Newsom, Hollywood Elites, & Cancel Culture

first things first you don't need Pharmaceuticals to heal everything so you've spent decades saying things that are seemingly obvious yet no one listens if you guys quit the weed you too can become board certified I had a woman say to me once she goes why do you win every argument and I said cuz I only argue when I'm right A lot of people argue about sh they don't know about and then they're batting average is going to go down almost every time I tell someone go do something go paint your office go wash your when they inevitably usually a woman yells she doesn't need to do that like they don't need and no one needs to do anything anymore that's where so do you think we have it too easy then that people's lives are just a little too good these days you could say good or easy but I I feel sorry for these people everybody under 40 I know are like they can't change attire what would you say for the average viewer other than minimum effort next steps that they can take to feel more fulfilled or they could just get a job just go get a job how about that I have an alternative get a [Music] job Adam Cora thank you so much for coming on the iced coffee hour it is my pleasure so you've spent decades saying things that are seemingly obvious yet no one listens what would you say is the biggest I Told You So in your entire career well I mean there's there's sort of micro and macro with like I I Told You So for me like there's sort of smaller things like I've been saying people use too much soap they wash too much pel's bad you can't sanitize everything kids are getting allergies everyone's allergic to peanuts now you need to expose kids to stuff not remove the peanut butter from the house and and stop slathering on the purel and the disinfectant and stuff and stop showering so much stop scrubbing so much these are like smaller things that I've talked about for 25 or 30 years and everyone just calls me gross or weird or something I don't know people get angry when you just tell them you know you're you're too clean you're cleaning too much you know so that's like a that's kind of a microe thing macro I guess would be Co school closures masks you know everything everything Co was another thing I was soundly attacked for in my opinions but I I've been right about everything that I talk about it just it takes a minute to come around like now it's sort of I've been saying all the Dei hires are bad and not going to work out and affirmative action stuff all all things social and most things uh personal so on the topic of the micro what would you say is the proper amount of Filth to have on on one's body how often should jack whitee his ass well first off Jack should never do it himself should well you're far too powerful for that I have people I could lend you my guy it's a guy well I say my guy you know what I mean like could be gender neutral it's fine if they are I mean yeah well I didn't want anyone that I had an attraction to uhhuh doing it because I believe that would blur some lines you know so I'm heterosexual so yeah I chose a fella because I didn't want to fall in love with my ass wiper which has happened to it happened to Kimmel it's happened to a few people I know interesting yeah there's a song called Don't Fall in Love with a dreamer mhm and then but there should be a song called don't fall in love with an ass wiper which is much more prevalent and and more ubiquitous than dreamers but is that so wrong hey If Loving You Is Wrong I Don't Want to Be Right and that's another song but it should be called if L is you wrong uh I don't want to be write about my ass wiper is what it should be you know Jack had a question that went somewhat viral on Tik Tok a while ago do you stand or sit when you wipe oh there's a standing and wiping see exactly people can live their entire life and have no idea that people stand or sit when they wipe people that stand don't know people sit people that sit don't know people stand and it's 50/50 which is closer to 3070 it can't be 5050 stand it's closer to 3070 higher than 30% stand okay hold on you've rocked my world um I would think almost nobody stands but there's a a lot of stuff I'm confused about in in our society like I'm always I'm always amazed when election comes around and you have like Kamala Harris and you have Trump and they're like the most different people on the planet and you're like where are we at well we're 495 versus 50.4 like how could we be ex cut right down the middle on like things of that nature and standing all right so there's a there's a physiological process that goes on with standing which is a sort of half clinch like you when you go up you're sort of you're you're looking you're looking for separation and when you're sitting it's a natural separation otherwise you standing up there's a reason you sit in defense of the standards not claiming which side I you know am involved with but in defense of them they say that it's more of a squat well it's like a half stand listen there is an emergency stand that's you know a camping situation A somebody's just kicked in the front door of the apartment and you're you know there's a there's a time and a place for a stand wipe that's that's a different situation but it's not when you got all the wiping time in the world I'll tell you the move really the move is time it so you take your morning dump and then hit the shower and just eliminate the wi well moving on from that you've said that people lack common sense but I'm curious is this a new phenomenon or has this just always been the case I mean I'm sure if we contacted our elders through some modality they would tell you about all the dumb people in their Village I mean they used have Village idiots you know I think I I now think like Los Angeles becoming a village four idiots it's been literally used to be one Village Idiot now it's the LA City Council there's multiple idiots um so here's my theory which I will be proven correct about um and and and and by the way just so people know I don't need to be proven correct for me I already know I'm right with everything but only stuff I talk about like people go I had a I had a woman say to me once she goes why do you win every argument and I said cuz I only argue when I'm right A lot of people argue about [ __ ] they don't know about and then their batting average is going to go down that's all through Co all people did that's all CNN did was tell you stuff they didn't know about and now Lo behold they're wrong but they shouldn't have said it in the first place you wait until you figure out what's going on be correct and then make make your statement so what separates people that get it and those that don't so okay so here's what's going on in in this chapter of of our society we weren't meant for this we weren't meant for air conditioning and a sedentary lifestyle and all the things men don't have to do anymore and all the things we've told women they never have to do again you know you don't have to wash clothes you don't have to sew socks you don't have to milk cows you don't have to pluck chickens you don't have to go down to the river and get water or clean you don't do any of that and guys you don't have to you know you don't have to repair your roof you don't have to wash your you don't have to shoe your own horse or wash your own van or anything that's like don't do anything when you take people and you put them in an environment that's has a climate control and they're told just to sit there and stare at a screen all day and and do data entry they start floating they lose their attachment to the physical world and the physical world is a a a constant reminder of Common Sense so like if you work you know back in the day 80% of people worked at a mill or at a logging camp or in a coal mine or something like that when you work in that world if you screw up you lose a limb or or you die there's just that's just how construction works you know when you're building a bridge it's all super it's all gravity it's all tangible it's all practical it does really care what's in your heart or who you know or what your sexual proclivities are it's just mechanics and gravity and nature and this is why people who fix things for a living and are like diesel mechanics and and work with tools are more pragmatic than folks that go into government and just sit inside a cubicle and just sort of float ideas all day that that'll never work that it like you know defund the police like okay that's not going to work it never was going to work I don't know why you thought it was going to work almost everything Co was a [ __ ] idea that some idiot had who was locked in something nobody I knew who worked in the trades cared about Co they showed up they just went to work they have to work every day like if you are fabricating metal you got a band saw or a chopa or whatever you're welding I mean it's all risk reward yeah so we took everybody we took them off the farm we took them out of the tangible world and we put them indoors and we pumped in air conditioning and we put them in front of a screen and they lost their ability to think they do not have a relationship with danger you need a relationship with with danger so do you think we have it too easy then that people's lives are just a little too good these days yeah I mean you could say good or easy but I I feel sorry for these people there's guys that have zero tangible skills they have no ability to to do anything they're everybody under 40 I know or like they can't change a tire if they get a flat tire they don't know how to take the spare out and put it on their car which might go oh well that guy will call Triple A so he's got it easy but I don't think being skilless and lazy and stoned is is easy I I don't find that to be rewarded that though Society versus just a parenting style that maybe older Millennials are now you know getting into this and they're just teaching different things that's causing this I mean it's soci it's look you know it's Society dictates parenting Styles and maybe parenting Styles influence Society but you know little stupid stuff like I have a son and I was like he should get a job at McDonald's and then every woman in the in the room was like he doesn't have to work McDonald's you might make ton of money I go he needs to learn how to work he doesn't need to work yeah he doesn't need to work at McDonald's it's true I have enough money for both of us he should work at McDonald's so we can learn to work and that perfectly fine with me I I wished my son son of a rich man worked in a McDonald's so we'd learn how to work you know it's like I say to people all the time like I I go I'm going to go wash my car this weekend and someone go you don't need to wash your car have the detailer guy come over take it to the whatever it's like almost every time I tell someone go do something go paint your office go wash your car what they and some inevitably usually a woman yells she doesn't need to do that like they don't need and no one needs do anything anymore that's where we're at okay but your brain's turning to Mush because you're not doing things you're not doing Simple tasks how does that parenting style different uh different between boys and girls um I I don't I don't know that there's a big differentiation between boys and girls anymore in terms of like the parenting you know I mean I for your daughter would you tell her get a job at McDonald's to get work experience cuz I feel like guys it's easier to you know push him into like oh you got to go and do that go wash the car yeah I I think I think there's a societal thing where we sort of said you don't have you know you're not allowed as a male to tell a female what to do and blah blah blah which is not good but and and but by the way the most miserable people are just young women so we sold them a a bill of [ __ ] like they could don't listen any anybody you don't need to get married you don't have to have kids you can do whatever you want you know no man is in charge or whatever you don't need a man and and they're all miserable so it didn't it didn't work it was just another bad soci it sort of it was their version of defund the police like all right bad idea not going to work but I'll just sit back and enjoy watching you guys scramble and fail and so we're kind of that way you know dads aren't allow dads are allowed to sort of B their son around although that's that's pretty limited too now but yes you cannot treat the woman the same otherwise Society shall shall judge you what do you think is one of the biggest issues right now that's not being discussed but really quick as business owners we know exactly what chaos feels like like we've seen so many receipts invoices and subscriptions that I don't even remember signing up for like it's pretty bad it's a nightmare but thankfully with today's sponsor ramp managing your 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Taekwondo class or something if you feel threatened all the time don't don't take Pharmaceuticals way too much with the Pharmaceuticals it it's it's like everybody under 40 I know is on something everyone's allergic to something everyone's on some sort of SSRI somebody's everyone's taking something for something it's nuts it it's insane it never existed nobody knew growing up took anything nobody was allergic to anything nobody took stomach everyone's stomach's all [ __ ] up now like I can't eat this I don't do that I don't have a tolerance it's all [ __ ] you did it to yourself get off the Pharmaceuticals start hiking start sweating listen to classical music go hit the trail I've been saying this for 30 years people call in love line I my doctors he wants to prescribe okay put on classical music take a hike that's what I would tell everybody if it doesn't work then take the Pharmaceuticals but they never did it they just took the Pharmaceuticals now 30 years later there's studies that have come out turns out hiking and listening to classical music is better than taking serotonin reuptake Inhibitors oh who knew so you can file that [ __ ] under one more thing I told everyone to do and no one listened to me and nobody nobody cared but way too many Pharmaceuticals you don't need it and and stop with your stomach there's something going on you need to expose yourself to stuff not avoid stuff and not take a bunch of pharmaceuticals and bromides to protect yourself and go break a sweat go hit the trail and go build a treehouse in your backyard do a project no one has projects anymore they sit around they watch Netflix and they take Pharmaceuticals and they order GrubHub and they're miserable don't do it just because like like okay just cuz it's easier doesn't mean you should engage in it I've I've never ordered GrubHub I don't know how to order GrubHub I wouldn't do it I would either make myself food or I would go order a pizza or take out what I would go get it and people go you don't have to go get it they bring it to your house I go I I want to be part of Society where I up and Stu what would you say for the average viewer auor then going through life and maybe they're not super happy like are the actual like minimum effort next steps that they can take the small things small adjustments in their life that they can take to feel more fulfilled you need to inflict some intentional misery on yourself you need to put it onto yourself the the cold shower the cold plunge is not there because I've inflammation of my joints I don't have any problems with my joints or my back or I don't I I I really don't know the physiological benefits of a cold plunge other than they say they they are but I I've never started taking a cold plunge because I've joint problems I I do it because it's miserable I do it because it's painful and not a you know I'm not a Navy SEAL or anything I don't I don't sit around and do push-ups in a SAA all day I do plenty of stuff that feels good um and that I want to do and you know food I shouldn't eat I eat it you know I'm not I'm not a martyr I'm just saying start challenging yourself a little bit start inflicting a little difficulty into your life start doing things that scare you a little bit and if the idea of waking up every morning and standing in the shower and just turn on cold and Blasting yourself with freezing water sounds miserable to you then go do it and and and things will start start getting into the habit of doing stuff you don't want to do and stuff that May Scare You you were a part of the man show which some people argue could never be done today would you say comedy is dead or it's just different it's different and and there and and you probably could do a show like that again today I don't know maybe not in a main stream environment you know but maybe some YouTube channel or something I don't know uh there has been a Renaissance of sort of Comedy that is more freewheeling and sort of edgier and and sort of male Centric and stuff like that you know the names a lot of guys out there getting a lot of traffic who are doing that because it's just a an answer to the political correctness and the covid lockdowns and stuff like that pushed guys into that you know they got pushed into it you know it's that sort of Andrew Tate phenomenon of like people are like well why are these guys gravit gravitating toward Andrew Tate or Joe Rogan or whatever and the answer is because you [ __ ] pushed them to them by saying them they couldn't comes out with commercials talking about toxic masculinity that shows two six-year-old boys just wrestling outside at a barbecue and they label that as toxic masculinity so us wipes created a society that took normal male behavior and tried to criminalize it and that's why Andrew Tate has a following so they did it to themselves speaking of that there was something about gen Z not approaching women at bars anymore like that's not a thing it's like such a high percentage and even genz women said that they would not want to be approached if they're out in public at all and I feel like that's completely shifted it used to be like you would go and meet people at bars or you'd go and meet people on the street well what they did or what we did as a society and and I remember this and and Dr Drew was an an early Pioneer in this and and deserves much criticism for it which I do give him and and and he accepts it which is they said that going back to probably the 70s but but beyond the way males behave and the way females behave and and it's been discussed that society would be better if it was more feminized that that the male version of society is Wars and clubbing women over the head and dragging them back to the cave and and all the male and you know and you kind of want all right like every movie where guys are fighting with swords and stuff it's guys killing guys you know like all the Hitlers and the genas and the molinis I you know they got one thing in common balls you know so we decided that if there was a if we tacked toward a more feminine based society that we would have a more evolved society which wasn't you know out of the question like mathematically like it made sense like they used to say like if women were in charge there'd be no Wars you know and you'd go okay it's true I mean I haven't heard of women starting Wars you know traditionally so what we basically said is women you do what you got to do and you do your own thing and you do as much of it as you can and you have girl power you need to be empowered guys you need to Tamp it down and reel it in your impulses are bad and they're negative and and and people get hurt so guys bring it down women Let your freak flag fly you there's nothing you can do that's wrong just go do it and so we started down that road in Earnest like 20 25 years ago and we [ __ ] up our society because it basically turns out you need men and women and you need this kind of a symbiotic balance of masculinity and femininity and when you go all feminine you will screw up society as I'm sure if you want all masculine like if you did it in a house you know there's a husband and a wife they provide different skills and different things for the kid and if they're both doing their job correctly you should end up with a pretty good kid uh but if you just decide guys are evil remove them uh and then you go full feminine then you're going to have a [ __ ] up kid and by the way be the same way if you got rid of the woman and you just want it's going to be this way with two you know two long shoremen are going to raise the kid you know so our balance got [ __ ] up and we [ __ ] up our society and certain cities and societies like Los Angeles it's a feminine society and that's why it doesn't work that's why we can't stop a fire or fix a fire we can't do anything cuzz it's all female city council and mayor and Gavin Newsome by the way you can be a dude wired like a chick so Gavin Nome is watch how they cross their legs Gavin Newsome's a chick he thinks like a woman and so and Tulsi Gabbert thinks like a dude by the way you can sometimes they cross over but LA's feminized and that's why we're floundering we need a balance I'm curious what's the last joke that you said that got widespread backlash I mean the last thing I said that really spread around and got a lot of people really pissed off was a tweet from 2020 I think it may have been around August of 2020 was earlyish into Co and I sent a tweet out that said this thing is killing six people and old people and the rest of you [ __ ] got played and who's getting played next time and everyone want bananas and then um I was told maybe I should take that tweet down by a few people and uh Jud appow the great Jud appow who's a friend he called me and he said you should take that tweet down but only CU he likes me you know he saw that I was being attacked you know and I just went well listen I'm not in the business of taking stuff down that's true if if if if if I say something that's incorrect then I'll take it down but if I'm correct then I won't take it down so it kills old people it kills sick people it kills fat people it kills people with pre-existing comorbidities it does not harm young people who are healthy at all number one number two you [ __ ] who bought in you sheep you cowards you got played they [ __ ] played you and you bought into it and you were cowards and you should own that and who's getting played next time because there is going to be another thing I don't know if it's going to be uh a viral disease but there'll be things and they're going to count on Stooges like you guys not you guys I don't know what you guys did but they're going to count on a large group of Stooges to cast in their play so essentially casting a play they need tons of extra Stooges and everybody walked around who told me to pull my mask up when I was alone on a horse trail or who drove alone in a car with a mask on or who did any enforcement of this at all you are necessary Stooges for the play that they're casting okay but some people argue I don't really care what people think but it's easier to actually Express that publicly when you're rich yes and you for example you make your living by providing these kind of like harsh blunt extreme extreme to some opinions online and so it's productive for you to continue doing so but for other people maybe where they work in a corporate environment where they can't share stuff like this or people that just don't have money how would you recommend them going about life not caring about other people or should they care well and and by the way I I know you I think you just cut yourself off it's not caring it's not not caring about other people it's not caring what other people think right I I care about my kids that's why I wanted them to open their school and not sit home and languish so when I attacked the school system it wasn't because I don't care about kids or kids of color kids I actually care about kids it's the teachers unions who don't care about kids and so that's why I attack them it's always funny when they push it back on you like you don't care about if I didn't care about kids I wouldn't be talking about any of this stuff I I wouldn't care if I didn't have kids who are sitting home languishing right now I wouldn't so here's how it works when you work for a corporation then that Corporation can threaten you or an organization you know you're in a firefighters Union you have to get vaccinated or they'll fire you or you're a cop or you're in the military so if you're part of a large group or you know you work for IBM or Monsanto or something so if you work for somebody then you are at the whims of what whichever wind way the wind is blowing for them you know and the way the wind is blowing for them is is maximum profit whether they're right or wrong you know so then they can basically go put on this gay flag lapel for for for gay week you know and then you go I'm a Christian and I don't believe in that they go okay well we're going to fire you you know I mean which is horrible but that's we just saw it okay so if you work in that environment know there is nothing you can do now if you are good at your job the little secret is is if you're good you can never be cancelled you can never be fired even if you're a welder if if you're a kick-ass welder you'll work you'll never stop working if you're I used to be a carpenter if you're a good Carpenter you say whatever the [ __ ] you want about anything because someone will hire you all the time so if you actually have a skill or you're actually skilled at what you do then you do not have to worry about society and what you say now if you're a midlevel New York Times journalist then you better shut up if you're really good at journalism then you leave and you go to substack and you create your own following there there are a lot of people that just left the plantation during Co and they're all just hung their own shingle and they're fine now so but you have to be good if you want to be mediocre and you want to work for a large corporation and be mediocre then you're going to have to eat [ __ ] and do whatever it is they want whether you agree with it or not I would argue get good at something and get off of that Plantation but no if you have young kids and you're working for the New York Times and it's 2021 and you got thoughts about the lab leak versus the wet Market you better keep it to yourself now I disagree with the idiots who would fire you for having an opinion and or being correct about something but that is self-preservation in terms of me my uh opinions do not benefit me in terms of business per se um maybe that may be counter to to what you may be thinking but the reality is is you will be shown the door in Hollywood if you have opinions that or counter to whatever whichever way the wind is blowing terms of trans Community or Co anything by the way co co I I'd have people on like sets come up to me and go like I agree with you and then like look over their shoulder cuz they hwood Elites that that like DM you secretly and say like hey by the way and this is like massive movie stars and cele I'm curious who's controlling that like who's that person who sets The Narrative for Hollywood although you know what if you run your own business you know there's no better sound than hearing and if you want to hear a bunch more then it's time to get started with our sponsor Shopify for those una aware Shopify is home to the number one checkout in the planet with way less carts going abandoned and way more sales going as an example of this Shopify is a service called shopay that lets customers save their email address billing information shipping information and more and that helps boost conversions by up to 50% and if you're into growing your business your Commerce platform better be ready to 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so much Shopify for sponsoring this episode and now let's get back to the podcast here's how Hollywood works the Super Bowl's coming coming up metaphorically and we got the Chiefs and we got the Eagles in it and at some point somebody goes uh who do you like and you go I I like the eagles and someone goes yeah not a good wrong answer and then you go why and they go well the guy's casting the movie and the guy's directing the movie and the guy Ted sarantos is married to a Chiefs fan so the guy who runs Netflix wife is a hardcore Chiefs fan and then you go oh but I like the eagles they go yeah I know but his wife is a huge Chiefs fan and Ted you know he's not going to hire an eagles and then next thing you know magically 100% of Hollywood is a Chiefs fan and you go well how could that happen I mean how did 100% of Hollywood come down on if you took the 10 bullet points of Co whether it was where it Emin from was it a lab was it a wet Market do masks work does social distancing work does ior mechon work if you took all 10 of those Hollywood was 10 for 10 on every single one of them there nobody in Hollywood would I think ior mech's a good thing they're cowards they're Hypocrites they're [ __ ] but they're also vying for a job that they don't have that you have to be popular you're not going to get a job they'll throw you out they don't need you they don't need anybody and Hollywood but it also seems like they actually believe what they're saying I mean you have these things the zoom thing with like all of these actors telling you you know put on your mask and do this and do that and I don't even have a strong opinion on Co but it was interesting that it seemed like they're so passionate about it they go to these Awards ceremonies and when they have the mic finally in their hands they go and they want to say share their political agenda and I'm like well I I feel like no one's forcing you to do that let's go back to Ted Santos and Netflix and his wife who's a huge Chiefs fan right you could say I'm an Eagles fan and tell Ted and tell his wife I'm a huge Eagles fan in which case you'll never get another job or you could say tell Ted and his wife who's a Chiefs fan I don't really like football like I'm agnostic like I don't I don't really care who wins the Super Bowl okay maybe you get a job maybe you don't get a job or you could go get a Chief's Jersey and wear it to the next party that Ted and his wife invite you to and then do a little Soliloquy on how much you love Patrick Mahomes and then you would get a job or at least your chances of getting a job would go up a lot more so when you see these people making their proclamations if you if you are just silent about like let's just say Co comes around and you go I have no opinion on it if Co comes around and you go this is [ __ ] you guys are getting played and this is a pharmaceutical and a government grab because we're in an election year then you're out you're not working in Hollywood at all if you go I'm agnostic about Co like I don't have strong feelings about but whatever then you're in the middle and if you give grandiose speeches about Co and do all the [ __ ] you were talking about then you get to stay and thrive in Hollywood and go to the next cocktail party do you have a lot of Hollywood Elites that reach out to you secretly through DM so they they just completely are unwilling or maybe they do truly believe I'm just curious if you have people that like hit you up no I no no but so I did not help myself economically by removing myself from the mainstream of Hollywood yeah but I I make a a fine living doing doing something else but I did not help myself by by removing myself from Hollywood speaking of a lot of that you're very outspoken about California if you were 25 years old today would you stay or leave oh I would leave for sure I would not definitely want to there there's so many other good places now like there was no if somebody would have said to me when I was 25 when I was 25 you know uh Wyoming's a pretty nice place to live I'd go are you nuts what do you do in Wy there's nothing in I I thought people when I was a kid I thought people in Texas just rode horses everywhere and you know like like I thought it was you know hos from the Ponderosa I I I didn't know that there's a PF Changs on every corner and a and a pro golf place and you know who cares now you can just go wherever you want Airlines go everywhere like M Used to Be You couldn't go places because you weren't that mobile like you could live in Nevada you could have a business in Los Angeles you could drive back and forth twice a week or whatever when I was young we didn't have a car that would make it back and forth to Nevada it would overheat like you couldn't go to Nevada you couldn't go for from LA to Nevada in July your car would die in Death Valley like literally just overheat you know or you didn't have air conditioning or whatever you just you travel I mean I travel the country and I really travel the country and you drive around travel around you go to Provo Utah and you go I could live here this is nice it's clean it's safe you know it's it's modern like it looks good like Nashville or whatever I mean you go anywhere now and I think California's I think part of the problem with California is people figured out they can go anywhere so what would you say are the specific top three policies that have actually destroyed California in one of the books I wrote I outlined a scenario which was that I used to come here via Forest Lawn Drive which is a long stretch of highway which runs along the cemetery and um and it's it's kind of long you guys may know it and it and it and it doesn't have cross streets and stuff in it so people tend to speed on for Salon drive because it's just long and is actually there's no there's rarely any traffic on it people in La like when there's no traffic they're like all right let's make up a little at this time so the scenario is this I would drive down Forest Salon Drive I would see on one side of Forest Salon drive a motorcycle cop who would back his bike up up a driveway in a shaded kind of wooded area near the Jewish cemetery which is next to Forest Lawn and he'd be back there and he'd have his radar gun out and he'd be waiting for citizens to speed you know I I'd see him pull over soccer moms and minivans you know cuz inevitably they're going 57 and it's 45 and they get pulled over okay fine on the other side of for Salon Drive was many illegals selling flowers that they bought downtown to sell without a business license or any form of anything just cash and carry um on the other side of the streets a bunch of illegals selling flowers two people who are going to visit their dead in a melum the city of Los Angeles and in general California is this way has no interest in the illegal activity on one side of the street that's illegals here engaging in legal Behavior now there is a florist up the street and that person has to have all kinds of insurance and pay all kinds of taxes and it's going to get sued by an employee for wrongful termination and OSHA's going to get involved and stuff like that they will be vigorous um very vigorous compliance for the taxpayer and they'll be very it'll be very vigorous for the soccer mom but the illegal no problemo if if you go to Sofi Stadium you can buy shots at tequila outside of Sofi Stadium while illegals sell you to cotti beer and ghetto dogs next to Cops who are doing security the city has declared a war on taxpayers and regulated them to death but if you'd like to just sell food illegally you can pop up on any corner or do whatever you want and they walk right past those people and they never shut them down and they never send them at summons and the city council agrees with this they agree that you should be regulated out of business and taxed out of business and but if you want to create a street Black Market where you sold food you can do it and by the way every time you send a health inspector over to my businesses business you're doing it under the guise of safety except for you don't have problems with people just cooking whatever food they want on on the on a sidewalk and just selling it to people no thoughts so once the City San Francisco's done this and and LA's done this once you essentially look the other way for homeless or junkies or illegals or criminals or whatever that is and you shine a spotlight on taxpayers with over regulation and over permitting and and and every trying to manage every every grain of your life versus illegals go go do whatever you want or homeless go shoot up whever you want or sleep wherever you want then you've lost it and and La La's there San Francisco's there it's just it's the difference it look if you're not a taxpayer and you don't have a checking account whatever City you're in they're not going to be nearly as interested in you as they are in the people who have a checking account and pay ta can be compliant basically the people that are compliant the people are compliant are pay them so it's like okay who do you make money on like when you're a city and you you need to keep the lights on in the city okay who who do you go to well I would go to Mark gagos or Adam Corolla because those guys have businesses and they we could charge them for you know we charge them for permit and we could charge them taxes and we could Char them land taxes or business taxes or whatever okay what about homeless guy with a load of [ __ ] in his pants over there well that guy costs us money we don't he doesn't have anything he costs us money so you'd have to take him somewhere and incarcerate him or process him or put him in a housing or something so that guy costs us money these guys make us money so then they went well why don't we focus full-time on these guys cuz they make us money whereas the legals and the homeless and the junkies they cost us money so you go okay well that sounds like a plan but you focus too hard on These Guys these guys start flourishing in terms of numbers and then these guys go [ __ ] it I'm moving to Nashville because I'm tired of you being up my ass if you're not going to do anything about these guys because I'm running a business and these guys are camping in front of my business and you guys want me to pay your taxes for my business but you will not do anything with these guys and when that starts that's the beginning of the end of of a societ do you think it's reversible yeah it everything's reversible do you think it's realistically going to be reversed maybe you know now that we hit rock bottom by burning to the ground then maybe we might take a look at somebody like a Rick Caruso versus a Karen bass and go we should start thinking about people who do stuff versus sort of ceremonial leaders you know which we do sort of ceremonial like she's the first black female yeah she's in Ghana she's not here she's not interested in whatever yeah aqueducts are boring and and fire hydrants are boring and homeless is boring and trash is boring and potholes are boring going to Ghana and dancing that's fun do you do you really think that the Palisades in Eden fire were Rock Bottom because I could argue based on what I've seen so far that it can get a lot worse especially when it comes to crime and homeless the B the fires were kind of maybe symbolically a rock bottom the there's there's there's two parts to the fire though there is the destruction that that happened uh that may have been mitigated if they were if we had competence people in place I don't know that it would have been avoided but you know I don't know 30% better if we figured it out but all right uh but then there's going to be the rebuilding process and that's the part that's going to really piss people off and that's the part where they're going to demand change or they're not going to let you do anything so from a personal experience back in the Thomas fire back in what was that 2017 my house burned down in Ventura and rebuilding the house was the biggest pain in the butt ever I mean I don't want to out exactly what we did but they wouldn't give us an occupancy permit because we didn't have proper Heating and Cooling but we had no other alternative because insurance companies only pay out for x amount of months for you to have some sort of temporary housing and building a house with all the permitting process the regulatory environment the city made it incredibly difficult we weren't grandfathered into a lot of the things that we had previously cuz the house was built in the ' 60s but all of those things that we had benefit ited from they're like oh yeah we're not going to let you build a house similar to what you had before you now have to comply with all of these new rules and regulations Meanwhile we're not going to let you live into the house until you have AC but those who know Ventura the city was is like the most temperate City ever well that's the city and that's also by the way the city's in the process of tearing down a beautiful Treehouse that was in the front of a The Simpsons guy in Sherman Oak so they're tearing that down meanwhile you go two blocks over and people are building homes homeless people out of plywood and yield signs and visen under the freeway on the sidewalk so you know moms pushing strollers can walk the street the city has no interest in these guys building illegal homes on the sidewalk but they have a grand interest on people building trees houses for the neighborhood kids on their property did you see this story no The Treehouse story it is insane this guy like 30 40 years ago uh was one of the uh guys from The Simpsons made this tree house beautiful treehouse in the tree and it's been there I think since like the 1980s 7s no I think it's about it's 20 years 20 so it's been there but the city now says he needs to comply with like zoning regulations for the Treehouse he has to pull permits he needs to do like ground structural testing of the Treehouse he spent $50,000 defending this in court and it's about to go to a jury and he says you know what I give up I don't want to spend another $50,000 defending myself in a jury just to have the chance of keeping the tree house that's incredible it's a tree house there it is right there yeah I see it that's beautiful that's it's known as a landmark in the area Jack we could drive by it I would love to see we could film some my my friend uh he has a house in in really nice part of Los Angeles right next to his house is a twostory tent he's lived in that house now for a couple years every single time I drive to his house you have this massive like like tent Mansion which obviously don't don't hate me but like it looks really nice and the person there is very aggressive every time I drive by this has happened not every time but quite a few times they'll come out of their tent and like start like yelling things I've seen them yelling at people pedestrians on the sidewalk like obscenities it it's not a good situ but this person no one stopped them from living there and it's like I said like a fullon massive house well so what we just did is sort of illustrate with the Treehouse which the city is is very vigorous about and needs to come down versus the shanty house which they have no interest in because that guy is an empty bag he has no no money to give them now my feeling is is you have to pick a lane as a city you can either not here's here's optimal and then unacceptable optimal is places where you would take down the shanty town that is built under the freeway overpass or built on the freeway or whatever in the you know in the LA River optimal is that the city would enforce that and take down those dangerous structures where people deal drugs and insane people live all right take those down and their policy toward a guy who built a treehouse on his own property would be the guy's paying taxes people seem to like it and it looks good from here he's an American Le alone it's his property okay that that's optimal Middle Ground is um look we're going to let that guy in his visqueen plywood house build on a sidewalk but if you want to build a treehouse I guess that's your business at least we're consistent he'll he'll build something you'll build something we won't get involv La is the worst which is not going to do anything about the plywood house on the sidewalk full weight of the law on homeowner and taxpayer that's why people leave and they don't get it and they somehow think it's um progress or something but the bluest cities are the toughest on taxpayers and the easiest on criminals so if you if you were Governor what would you change the first thing would be the the regulatory system uh you you you can't make it impossible to build or start a business or whatever because of the regulatory so over regulated that people just physically leave like that that would be number one um number two I wouldn't let a handful of nut jobs like the coastal commission sort of dictate what's going on all up and down the coast of California you have eight or nine crazy partisan nut jobs cancelling billion dooll projects for desalinization plants and things like that because there's a handful of partisan hacks who are angry at their stepdad and they're going to they're going to ruin everything for everyone else that would be it um I would basically do what the movie industry did what Hollywood did is Hollywood had runaway Productions so Hollywood did what all every Los Angeles and everything California did is they just got greedy with everything so you couldn't produce you couldn't shoot to film in in Hollywood all of the actors all the directors all the producers and all of the crew and everything that supports film making lives in Hollywood and they all went to New Mexico Atlanta prag or whatever because they couldn't afford it was cheaper to move everyone to New Mexico and shoot New Mexico and now Atlanta and New Mexico they have this burgeoning movie industry with all this Taxas right now they trying they're trying to get the tax credits right right okay so at some point the mayor of of Los Angeles uh they never say greedy they just want like oh we made a few mistakes and we like you to come back because we miss the tax base and we miss all the ancillary business and support you know we miss the money so you know what we we've rethunk some of our things about permits and unions and taxing and and we want to make it more hospitable for you guys to come back and and make your movies here and that's fine that's a correction and then they made a correction but it's really hard when Tyler Perry builds 17 million acres in Atlanta to just get Tyler Perry to come back to Los Angeles they forced these guys to leave so Gavin new Nome well not Gavin Newsome he's [ __ ] but if I was if I was a governor I would go why why are all the car manufacturers leaving like why is everyone taking their corporate headqu like where are they going and why are they going and let me get the word out I want to make things friendlier for them I I we will no longer call big businesses and people who create lots of jobs in the tax space evil we're not going to we're not going to we're not going to put a Target on their back anymore we're going to focus more on people who are criminals and aren't paying taxes and are screwing up our cities and make things more hospitable for Toyota or whomever to come do business in our state anytime you lament about the local government or the state government here in California it gets millions of views people love it has a politician or some sort of government agency ever reached out to you to say like you know can we hear your thoughts it seems like they're very popular uh no they're they're not in that business don't they don't listen that's the one thing I've noticed it seems like the government doesn't listen to what the people actually want and they just tell you what you want and it doesn't work and they're like oh no no but then you know they dude it it people have gone off the the Rockers in Santa Monica there's an initiative right now for marginalized cannabis users what does that even mean I don't know but it's it's on the city marginalized people disproportionately use cannabis or something I I I guess cannabis users aren't like getting the support they I don't know what it is but that's but that's an issue in Santa Monica for marginalized cars are being broken into the homeless is skyrocketing but that is the issue that c voting on and also by the way Democrats are like screw Elon Musk that guy's an idiot okay well maybe has ideas but no all right they're not into other people's ideas so you were very popular on love line for giving no BS blunt relationship advice Graham recently got married I'm single what's your best piece of relationship advice that you could give I would say understand that women are very different than you and you may be pragmatic but they are not and do not try to convert them to your way of thinking even though you're think King is correct and pragmatic they do not feel that way they do not think that way and you're not going to win them over that way to sort of understand what it is they want and try to provide it for them even if it doesn't make sense to you and then generally they'll be happy and content and if they're happy and content then your your life will be S of happy and content yes that sounds exactly like Graham how do you know where to draw the line you know I think there's a way to go look uh the last two times we went out to dinner we went to the place you wanted to eat so now it's time you know to go to the place I want to eat you know there's a kind of a math to it there's a kind of a math like hey man that handbag is $5,000 yeah I well it is it is pragmatic and it is it is uh logic but it's also math like like like if you go you just paid $5,000 for handbag that's that's a lot of money we could have you know put a down payment on a something or whatever with that money you can work a little math in every once in a while but like in general they're about a feeling and you can't go at them the way you want to be gone at yourself which is to say uh a a woman is a cat and a man is a dog you know and and when I get hold of my dog 110 pound lab you know I grab his head I pull his ears and I you know like right I rub his belly you know like that we do that with a cat they just they just run away like you just the posture on a cat is not the posture on a dog the cat you just put your hand down and they sort of they'll sort of find you you know and they'll kind of push up against a little bit if you come at a cat like you'd come at a dog the cat just get on top of the refrigerator so even though you're a dog and you go I'd love it if someone rubbed my belly they're cats so don't think they want the belly funny you mention that sometimes I'll come to Jack with problems and I love it when Jack just tells me you know what that's stupid doesn't matter just move on oh there's a lot a lot of moving on a lot of moving on cuz to me that seems like oh yeah that helps put it in perspective all right it's not that big of a deal I'm good thanks man I talked to Dr Drew about it a lot which is essentially sort of sad but you have to kind of treat like a special needs child you know you go I don't want to that him just people are people in the comments are going to love this they're going to love it well you know anybody who's been in a long relationship with a woman any man will just go you just got to learn to just keep walking you know what I mean like like she's she's going to do something she's going to say something insane you can stop and turn around or you can just keep walking and the smart guys just keep walking so on love line what were the most common relationship questions that you would get I remember a handful of calls over the over the years but I never really dwell on anything I just would show up talk I would talk like no one was listening you know I always thought it was important to to talk like no one was listening because then you would be freed up and um and then I would just go home and I and I never really wrote anything down or thought about it or or had any thoughts about like what role I played or who may have been affected or any of that just showed up did it turned around and left threw us that way you know sometimes people come up they go oh you're a big part of my childhood or you helped me or whatever and I'm always like thanks but I I never G I never gave it a second thought now you have quite an impressive career really starting out not growing up with a wealthy family or anything do you think that young people today have any excuse for not making it no they don't but I I don't know that they want to provide an excuse for not making it I don't know that their version of making it is your version of making it like their version of making it is you know a big TV and lots of pot and not having to own a car or pay a mortgage AG or doing doing what they want traveling so you know your version or a traditional version of making it as a as a big home and and uh you know an adoring family and a and a Ford GT40 or just a Ford GT cuz we couldn't clear 40 but that's your version their vers your version is owning a beautiful and exotic sports car their version is owning no car and just ubering and eating out and getting high and watching Netflix that's their version of of making it sadly I mean it it sounds counterintuitive to us on the other hand I don't know maybe the joke's on us you pay insurance you know you you have to deal with the maintenance and whatever that's not who they are younger people so there is no excuse for not making it if you want to work hard or you're halfway good at your job like you you'll Excel but I've 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reach right out to you with the right policy that fits your budget and your needs that's selectquote.com thank you so much selectquote for sponsoring this episode and now let's get back to the podcast let's assume that you know I'm I'm 25 and I'm coming to you asking for advice as someone who looks up to you what would you tell that person well I I would say let's be realistic about what you're good at and let's be realistic about what you're bad at and then we'll have a third category which is what you would like to do cuz uh if what you would like to do is sing but you have no ability to sing then I'm going to try to talk you out of that I'd love to be in a rock band too but I don't have that ability to be in a rock band so I would have loved to play for the Rams not good enough to play for the Rams so let let's figure out what you can do versus what you want to do versus what you would do and I would probably say what do you do naturally like when you're just left alone what do you what do you like to do you know and you go well I like to go to the garage and Tinker with things you know I'd go okay well maybe you'd be best suited to a job where you were building things or with on your feet using your hands or something or if you tell me I like The Human Condition I mean I read books I like to I to know what you know I read Plato and Aristotle I like to know how people work I said well maybe we should start thinking about uh you know psychology or counseling you know like I just want to know what you do first what you do naturally what you do for free you know what you do for free well ultimately it'd be great if you get could get paid to do what you would naturally do for free so let's hopefully there's something there hopefully we can take this thing you you you normally do and you naturally do and you do it and you know nowadays the world's your oyster because you could go I love sports I love talking about sports I'm in Roto leagues and blah blah blah i' go well maybe we should start thinking about starting a blog or something or or doing a doing an internet show or maybe you could get a job interning for Dan lebatard or something like look tell me what you do and then I would tell you look you can do it or or you don't have to do it there's not going to be any luck involved all the who you know or he was born on third base and thought he had a triple it's all [ __ ] if you want to work hard at it you'll succeed if you don't that'll be on you I I've seen a million people start from nothing go to go to somewhere that's out of this world and it's it's all effort it's all they did but be prepared to work on some weekends be prepared to put in some long days don't have a bunch of rules you know don't show up to work and have the boss go hey could you empty that trash can you go that's not my job don't say that's not your job don't have any rules you're young sacrifice do do everything so that you're 25 by the time you're 35 you're set up but eat [ __ ] for the next 10 years no pride no rules just work 35 you'll be in a good position from being a carpenter for nearly two decades to now having been very successful in the entertainment industry how would you say your definition of success has changed well okay my definition of success is if you've always wanted to go to Ireland and you've never been to Ireland then you're not successful regardless of whatever your income bracket is you know if you have a if you think okay I I I was a carpenter and I was like I love building and I love architecture and I love houses but I'm poor and I'll and and I I don't have the opportunity to build my own house or work on my own house or do my own project so if I could get into Show Business and make money then I could get my own house and and I could then build on my house and do my projects and and I did that um you know times multiple times and then I also said I like cars I I want to drive a race car I want to be involved with that activity or that Sport and I love old cars and I love tools so then I'll I'll do Show Business and and I'll make enough money so I can have some old cars and and do some car races and have a garage and do some use some tools and so that was my definition of success you take Jimmy Kimmel he doesn't like cars he doesn't like tools he doesn't care about a garage so him having a bunch of old race cars and not suit him and and it wouldn't satisfy him he likes experiences in travel and and cooking and and his definition of success is being able to afford a $10,000 Pizza Oven my definition of success is being able to afford a $10 pizza and spend the rest of money on tools so the success part and the success does not have to be grandiose it could be I want to be a great parent I want kids I want those kids to respect me and and I and I and I want to enjoy them you know and I I want them to be smart and interesting and good and and so my definition of success is not yours um and there's normally some monetary thing that goes along with it like yeah you want enough money to buy $10,000 pizza oven or $2 million car whatever whatever that is but but some people's definition is just to be like a great school teacher and like a great neighbor and and and they love fishing you know what I mean like it doesn't really cost anything it's not really attach to monetary how do you instill those values in your kids I don't I can't there is no instilling of values really I mean my ex-wife wasn't she wasn't down with my plans you know of whatever it is I I know so it was difficult um so I just basically said I'm not going to be able to really instill these values into my kids what I shall do is I will show them through experience um How I Live and and I will be an example to them so I will try to take them with me on the road on occasion to do shows where you know I'd have my son you know go we have to show up at for the early show and then in between shows we're going to go out and do a meet and greet and take pictures with everybody and then we're going to go back and we're going to do a late show and then you know we go back to hotel at midnight you know and then the next day we come back and we do the shows again and um experience this see it live it and and and and by the way if you see me you're not going to be able to convince your kids to you know have a healthy life while you're smoking and eating a donut if they see you getting up in the morning and exercising and doing a cold plunge or something that'll be much better than trying to instill things you know my my take is observe me living a a positive life and a productive life and understand how it works you know and and I'm always quick to tell my kids I you know I'll call them and I'll call you know last weekend I'm like like I'm in San Lou abiso I'm doing a show at a theater on a Satur I work weekends I travel uh I I take care of business and and inviting them to like I built a home theater and I sort of recruited my son to you know help as much as he could like a little less talking and like imparting of wisdom and a little more boots on the ground examples what are your thoughts about leaving kids money I don't really like it I I don't I don't really I I don't I don't I don't I don't think it's a net positive for them um having them have opportunity is is a good thing um and and I have I can provide opportunity for my kids um leaving money is I I don't think it's a great way to go uh but it again Society has co-opted every decent and practical thought I've ever had and turned it into because when you get divorced there's a lot of like well what about the kids like who's going to take care of these kids it's like uh I don't know they can get a job they can turn 18 they can get a job they can get some roommates I they can do whatever they want I don't what do you mean who's going to set them up it's like I I I don't own nobody how about they get a job how about they just do what every single person I ever knew including myself did they just laugh they got a job and they worked and then they moved out and then they lived I I I don't know Society is very much like who's going to set these kids up you know and then there's a lot of like you should buy them an apartment building and then they could rent out the rooms I like or they could just get a goddamn job just go get a job how about that I have an alternative get a job figure it out learn to work and it's crazy do you think it has to get worse before it gets better yes everything everything has all bad Society ideas have to get worse before they get better so it can start off with defund the police then it can go to like some community policing and eventually someone you know needs to get stabbed and then people go oh all right maybe we should get more cops that that's how that's how stupid people work but yes it has to do that cuz the these are people most of these ideas are pushed forward by dumb people that are that are sort of non pragmatist and don't know anything and really have to physically experience the negativeness of whatever their horrible ideas are before they will come around what would you say is the worst advice that you followed I have not received a lot of advice in my in my life I did not have a lot of mentor I my dad didn't tell me anything my mom didn't tell me anything um so I'm I'm trying to think um I really never got advice I I was just kind of my family did not give me advice or have a a wish for a direction you know like you know I'm a doctor and you're going to be a physician too by golly like I or or a do do boat repair whatever it is I I didn't have a relationship with my family where they offered advice and um my friends were kind of screw-ups and we kind of hung out I I was the one who was giving advice to everybody um I took some advice early like Showbiz advice like when I was trying to get in a radio and I the a job opened up as the van driver and I I told Jimmy Kimmel like I I'm going to try to get that van driver job and he said don't do it and I said why I could get in at the radio station and be there he goes if you get the van driver job then you'll be the van driver and they're not going to want you on the air you you you'll be looked at as the van driver and I was like okay yeah that's good advice um and I never became the van driver but I I did not get a lot advice from people um bad or or good per se I just sort of floated through life how much is your rivalry with Jimmy Kimmel real versus like for entertainment value oh I don't we don't have a rivalry he just thinks this way politically and I think that way politically but that's not it's like saying he likes the Steelers and I like the Ravens how big a rivalry does that not cause any friction in the relationship it doesn't which is weird but it's possible to go through life that way I am curious so we had steo on the podcast a few months ago and one of the videos we brought up to him was he went on your show and had a bit of a a meltdown so to speak and he was telling us his perspective of what happened that day and I'm curious from your perspective what was that like for you um I didn't have real strong thoughts about it he he we provided alcohol for him he indulged in the alcohol and then got out there and sort of probably did his version of steo and what he thought steo should be doing back then um and then uh I didn't want him to hurt his foot cuz he was hitting it on a glass coffee table I didn't want him to injure himself um I also didn't want them to stop filming because uh I I I didn't know what we were going to do we didn't have another guest you know I thought it would be kind of interesting to capture uh this and and so so I I didn't have big thoughts about it one way or the other I I I did I said when the show was over the Executive from Comedy Central sort of rushed over to me she was a young woman and she came to me and she said well we can't air this so what are we going to what are we going to do we're going run a rerun or or tape a new show she said we but we can't air this and I just said why can't we Heir this and she went this a disaster and and I said 10 years from now the only thing people will remember from this show is this episode where steveo put his foot through the class table and I think I was right you were 100% right so I was like yeah this would be the only the the only memory this show is going to be this episode and you don't want to air this episode uh but I never felt threatened or did you ever feel bad about uh highlighting steo in this way because sometimes we'll have a guest come on and say something and then Jack and I afterwards are like you know what we know if we air this it's going to get a lot of attention but we worry it might hurt the guest I was sort of in my office doing other things and the producer was like it'd be fun you know make sure there's a big bottle of vodka and Steve's dressing room uh so he so maybe he'll do something like crazy you know but I was sort of in my office not you know it wasn't my idea it wasn't like it was more of a production decision we're like we'll do this and that'll be funny um which is the case often times you know when things go wrong or things go whatever on a show you think it's like the host planned it out but the host really had little to do with it the host is on stage when it happens but whatever the joke was or whatever the thing or the event was that's some segment producer deciding this would be funny now I knew about it they were like we we put a bottle in Steve's but I by the way I had a bottle of booze in my dressing room too but I didn't have to drink it you know but I I think they're like he's going to he's going to drink and then he's going to come out and then hij Jinks will ensue like maybe it'll be crazy maybe it'll be funny maybe he'll show his ass or something like that was just and it was also kind of the older School of late night back then like you do The Tonight Show when Leno would host there was a booze cart right outside your dressing room like they would they had a they'd have a booze card you know and then you'd come there at like 4 in the afternoon and be like can we get you a cocktail and they're mainly just trying to the edge off you know loosen people up a little bit but booze was kind of a thing you know on a late night so like I wouldn't have a drink cuz I wasn't nervous if I do The Tonight Show and I didn't want to be a little off you know but if you're like a young Starlet and you're a little nervous then yeah maybe have a have a drink the table really a rental yeah everything is a rental everything I thought you would own it why would you rent the table seems like $100 table every I did a movie and they had coffee mugs and there were rentals and they just rent everything they just go to a prop house and they rent it and and whatever you see on that set is is rented it was crazy to me even uh when I got married the wedding planner was saying oh you could rent the uh the the you know the cops or the plates and I'm looking at the rental fees and I said well I could buy that for less than it would cost to rent it so we're just going to buy these things and just give them away it's cheaper to do that yeah well I I I would always say that too like we get to like season 4 The Man Show and there'd be like a Foos ball table like over there and we were like wrapping up and I was like who's taking the foosball table home now that we're done you know they'd go oh that's a rental be we rented a foosball table for 4 years yeah like we probably paid $26,000 for a $400 foosball table but it's what they do it's got to be something for write offs for tax purposes you know they write off 100% someone's making a lot of money on the back end that's that's I'm sure it's a scam but they rent that's the answer all right last question if you were to Die Tomorrow how would you like to be remembered I I think I'd like to be remembered as someone who was accurate uh whether it was comedy or Co or social thoughts or whatever i' like i' I'd go with uh I'd go with an accurate person who wasn't you know whose thoughts weren't sort of co-opted by whichever way the wind was blowing or whatever was a popular opinion I mean I definitely would like funny but I I'll take funny and accurate cool thank you really appreciate it I've really enjoy I could easily talk for another hour I mean our outline was was quite long but we skimmed through so much of this because we are just really into this and I'm a huge fan we'll we'll do a round we'll do round two thank you so much for coming on the iced coffee hour yeah come back you know take a few months off and come back we'll do round two thank you guys for watching