First Minister’s Questions (Backbench Members) (BSL) - 15 September 2026
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The session began with a somber note as the First Minister expressed sympathy following the death of distinguished MP Kathy Craig, before addressing a series of pressing questions regarding wildlife and public safety. Donald McKinnon inquired about the government's stance on hunting gaug from Sulskar, to which the First Minister confirmed that there are no plans to amend the relevant legislation despite ongoing scientific debates. Similarly, concerns were raised about dangerous urban exploring promoted on social media; the First Minister acknowledged the risks to life and committed the government to working closely with Police Scotland and local authorities to tackle this antisocial behavior. The session also touched upon the tragic death of Lord Jim Wallace from aortic dissection, prompting the First Minister to pledge active consideration of national guidelines for prevention and treatment in memory of his campaigning legacy.
Significant attention was given to critical issues within the National Health Service and social care, where accountability and resource allocation faced scrutiny. Helen McDeed questioned how justice could be served regarding past NHS scandals amidst proposed board reorganizations, receiving a firm assurance that inquiries would proceed without interruption. In another health-related query, Maggie Chapman highlighted the impending closure of Kingsway Care Center in Dundee, leading the First Minister to emphasize the necessity of individual assessments for patients whose care arrangements are altered. Furthermore, Jenny Mento drew attention to the gender gap in cardiovascular outcomes and misdiagnoses, prompting a detailed response about Phase Two of the Women's Health Plan which includes specific workstreams for hypertensive disorders and training for healthcare professionals.
Beyond health, the First Minister addressed constitutional matters, economic infrastructure, and community welfare. Following a recent meeting with counterparts in Cardiff regarding self-determination, he reaffirmed his commitment to holding an independence referendum by 2031. Economic and safety concerns were also paramount, with questions raised about gas leaks near battery storage sites leading to assurances that public safety remains the priority in all planning decisions. The First Minister also discussed the challenges of genomic testing availability for cancer treatments, the need to reduce waiting times for Motability appeals, and the plight of Highland children separated from their families due to a lack of local care provisions. Additionally, he addressed the severe underfunding facing local councils regarding domestic abuse support staff pay and the urgent need to improve men's health outcomes following a report showing Scotland has the lowest life expectancy in the UK.
The session concluded with strong statements on social cohesion and women's safety. Amanda Lindsay challenged the government's characterization of protesters as far-right, receiving an unequivocal response that confronting the far-right would never cease. The First Minister also expressed willingness to visit Men's Sheds to support initiatives combating male isolation and discussed the protection of community football grounds against commercial sale. Throughout the questions, a recurring theme was the tension between necessary service modernization and the imperative to protect vulnerable individuals, with the government consistently pledging that any changes would be patient-centered and properly consulted upon. The proceedings ended with the announcement of an upcoming debate on preventing violence against women, underscoring the administration's focus on safety and equality across Scotland.
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Change my business is first minister's
questions for backbench members.
Question one, Donald McKinnon.
>> Thank you, presiding officer. Last week,
the public petitions committee of this
parliament took the decision to keep
open petition 2202 seeking to end the
harvesting of gaug from the island of
Sulskar in my constituency. Does the
first minister, like me, recognize and
value the deep cultural significance of
the taking of Guga from Solishka? And
can he confirm that the position of his
government remains that it does not
intend to amend section 16 of the
wildlife and countryside act 1981 to
remove the power to grant licenses for
taking ganets from solushkar.
>> First minister
before I come to Mr. McKinnon's
question. May I associate myself with
the comments that you made at the start
of business this afternoon about the sad
death of Kathy Craig who was a
distinguished member of parliament and I
express my sympathy to her family and to
her colleagues in the Labour Party and
across the political spectrum today. She
was a a generous and kind lady to work
with in the Scottish Parliament and uh I
express my thanks for the work she
contributed to Scottish to the Scottish
Parliament. In relation to Mr.
McKinnon's question. First of all, the
government has no intention of changing
the provisions in the act. The the
issues that have been wrestled with by
nature Scott are the consideration of
scientific evidence. I understand and
appreciate there is quite vigorous
debate about that scientific evidence
but nature Scott have fulfilled an
expectation that I had that they would
be open and transparent about the
information that they had considered in
coming to the conclusion. I think it's
important for me to state for the record
that although a decision was taken in
relation to the GGA hunt in 2026 that
does not pro prohibit any application
for subsequent years and I hope that
clarity assists the um the Mr.
McKinnon's constituents who I know many
of whom are troubled by this particular
issue.
>> Thank you. Question two, Helen McDeed.
Thank you presiding officer and my
apologies for earlier to ask the first
minister considering there is a public
inquiry into the NHS t-side practices
which allowed Sam Jamel to butcher
patients over nearly 20 years and
there's another public inquiry into NHS
Greater Glasgow and Clyde's Queen
Elizabeth University Hospital
whether he can explain how
accountability and justice can be
delivered despite a major reorganization
of NHS boards which will remove these
entities. Thank you, First Minister.
>> So, the the the public inquiries will
take their course and there is nothing
about the reorganization of the National
Health Service as proposed by the
program for government that will
interrupt or in any way inhibit the
inquiries undertaking their full
scrutiny. All issues that are relevant
arising out of these inquiries into
either NHS tside or into NHS greater
Glasgow and Clyde will be handled, dealt
with, responded to by the successor NHS
institutions that arise from the
government's reforms if they are
supported by Parliament.
>> Fton McGregor.
>> Thank you, presiding officer. A
constituent who's a specialist domestic
abuse advocacy worker with assist
Glasgow City Council's domestic abuse
court advocacy service has raised
serious concerns with me about proposed
changes to paying grading that could
result in our salary being reduced by
around 23% from April 2028. Given the
Scottish government's ongoing commitment
to tackling violence against women and
girls, what discussions will the first
minister have with Glasgow City Council
to ensure that changes to the pay and
grading of specialist frontline staff
don't undermine the provision of vital
support to victims of domestic abuse.
>> First minister pres officer, I would
want to separate two issues that Mr.
McGregor has raised in his question to
me. The first is in relation to the pay
and grading changes that have been taken
forward by city of Glasgow council.
These are matters for the city of
Glasgow council to address as the
employer of individuals affected. I am
aware of the uh points that Mr. McGregor
raises in the specific implications in
relation to the assist organization but
fundamentally um that is an issue about
the grading of staff and the pay that's
allocated which is for a matter for the
city council. The other issue is about
the sustained funding to advocacy
organizations and and organizations that
have um responsibility to tackle
violence against women and girls. And as
I set out in the program for government
two weeks ago, the government is
committed to ensuring there is sustained
funding in place for these organizations
and I will say more about that in the
debate this afternoon.
>> Thank you, Adam Harley.
>> Thank you. Presiding officer Lord Jim
Wallace spent the final years of his
life campaigning with the Aotic
Dissection Charitable Trust before sadly
dying from the condition earlier this
year. Aotic dissection kills more than
2,000 people every year across the UK
with that number expected to double by
2050.
Greater awareness of the symptoms and a
standardized pathway could improve
prevention, treatment and afterare and
would save lives. Scotland has three
specialist centers currently treating
this condition. So we have a real
opportunity to lead the way. So in
memory of Jim Wallace, will the first
minister commit to publishing national
guidelines on the prevention, diagnosis,
uh treatment and after care of aotic
dissection? First minister,
>> pres many ways in which we could pay
tribute to the legacy and the work of
Jim Wallace, but Mr. Harley puts an
absolutely outstanding example on the
parliamentary record today. And I very
much associate myself with the comments
that he made. I think he will know that
I have the greatest of respect for Jim
Wallace and for his tremendous
contribution to our public life. Um the
Neil Grave when he was the health
secretary met with the aotic dissection
trust and has engaged in that dialogue
about the issues that Mr. Harley raises.
I think he makes a really good point
that on conditions which uh require us
to have a clear pathway uh we must make
sure that those pathways exist within
Scotland. I'm obviously very focused on
making sure that wherever people live in
the country and I've rehearsed this
point with some of Mr. Harley's
colleagues on other aspects of the
health service people can have access to
that pathway. So we will give active
consideration to the point that Mr.
Harley has raised and I'll ask the
health secretary Angela Constance to
engage further and she'd be happy to
meet Mr. Harley and with the trust to
take forward these issues.
>> Craig Hoy, thank you. Over the course of
the summer, residents and business
owners contacted me about a recent
problem of young people clambering on
the roofs of buildings in Dumpriestown
Center, something known as urban
exploring. This dangerous trend is pro
promoted v via social media is of
concern to residents and could cost
lives. So will the first minister join
with me and local police in highlighting
the dangers and consequences of urban
exploring? And will the Scottish
government commit to working with
agencies including police Scotland h to
tackle this life-threatening and
concerning form of antisocial behavior?
>> First minister, I understand the concern
that Mr. Hoy raises on behalf of his
constituents and the it is just another
example and I will come on to say more
in the course of the debate this
afternoon of the um dangerous practices
and behaviors that can be in some ways
uh legitimized or certainly aired by
social media. So um I echo the concerns
expressed by Mr. Hoy. I commit the
government to working and supporting
with Police Scotland. I'm certain there
will be good engagement with police
Scotland at local level but there'll
obviously be a necessity for engagement
with other public authorities perhaps
also defree and Galloway council in
relation to the education service in
that community but there'll be a w a
more a wider application I can't imagine
it's just an issue in denfree um so I
think the point that Mr. Hoy raises is
an important one to capture public
attention.
>> Katherine Sangster.
>> Thank you. Presiding officer teaching
unions are warning that school support
staff are not being supported to deal
with increasing instances of violent
behavior from pupils in primary school.
Last year, Edinburgh City Council paid
out over 250,000 to support staff and
damages alone. Edinburgh Council have
warned that given the black hole of 650
million in local government finances
left by government underfunding, they do
not have the resources to deal with this
problem. So can I ask the first minister
what action he will take and ensure that
teaching support staff are not left to
face this issue alone. First Minister,
>> the answers to these issues are of
course in making sure that behaviors in
our schools, whether that is behavior
that is encountered by teaching support
staff or by members of the teaching
staff or by pupils, um is appropriate
and satisfactory and the government has
set out range of measures over some time
to ensure that behavior issues are
confronted within the school system. We
are putting in place resourcing um
supporting local authorities, working
with the professional associations,
working with the other trade unions to
ensure that members of staff are at all
times supported. And the point that
Katherine Sangster makes about the
importance of behavior being acceptable
within schools for the safety of
everyone in our schools is one that I
endorse unreservedly.
>> Maggie Chapman,
>> thank you. The first minister will be
aware that NHS T-side plans to close
Kingsway Care Center in Dundee in just
four months time, moving dementia
assessment and treatment to forer and
cutting beds by 36%.
Vulnerable adults with psychosis,
depression and other conditions will
also have their care relocated. What
does the first minister say to families
and carers who may face multiple bus
journeys, if suitable services even
exist, with elderly people with dementia
simply to access care? And will he
ensure that no changes proceed without
proper consultation, a full equality
impact assessment, and clear evidence of
no detriment to patient care? First
Minister,
>> it would be my expectation that before
NHST said embarked on any move of this
type that the implications
um on individual residents was taken
into account in all of the steps that
are being taken because for for for any
patient whose care arrangements are
being altered, there has to be an
individual assessment undertaken to
ensure that the needs of that individual
have been properly taken. into account.
So that would be my expectation of NHS
T-side and I will ask the the health
secretary to make that point to NHS
T-side. There are of course occasions
where it is necessary to redesign
services and I think we all have to
accept that some stages and I've dealt
with this in my constituency experience
extensively over the years where we have
to h face up to the need to modernize
and to change the way in which we
deliver services. That can only be done
if it's done as we set out in the pro in
the program for government in a patient
centered fashion that addresses the
needs of each individual and that would
be my expectation in this case. Angela
Ross,
>> thank you preciding officer. First
Minister, Thursday's highpressured gas
leak at the planned McKenzie battery
storage site in East Lotheian has
reinforced local concerns about major
energy and digital infrastructure
developments being located in close
proximity to homes, schools, public
spaces. While the incident was not
caused by the battery installation
itself but work at the site, does it not
highlight the need to review the
national planning framework to ensure
that such developments are directed to
suitable locations that the impact on
existing communities is given greater
weight in planning decisions.
First Minister,
>> in coming to any decision about the
location of facilities, there has to be
uh the assessment of all relevant
factors in each locality and to and and
an open and rigorous assessment of any
implications that might be felt by the
local community as a consequence. That's
an essential requirement of all of our
planning policies. Now national planning
framework sets out at a strategic level
the approach that is taken in relation
to the uh delineation of land for
particular uses and the specific
considerations that have to be borne in
mind in taking forward any development.
So all of these matters will be issues
that will be considered in the planning
process. I would reiterate um one other
point which is that wherever there is
work undertaken at any site the
importance of public safety and the
safety of the workforce that are
involved is absolutely paramount and of
course that will require interaction
with the regulatory powers of the health
and safety executive which should be
applied in all appropriate
circumstances.
>> Karen K.
>> Thank you presiding officer. Uh
yesterday, first ministers across these
islands met in Cardiff to sign a
memorandum of understanding that our
nations should have the right to decide
our own constitutional future.
Last week, the UK Prime Minister also
agreed the principle that Scotland
should have a referendum when it is
likely that people would vote for
independence. Given that, what is the
next step in the first minister's plan
to build upon the Cardiff agreement?
>> First minister,
present officer, it was a welcome
opportunity yesterday for me to meet
with the first ministers of Wales and
Northern Ireland on the important
question that Mr. K raises that the
people of this country should be free to
decide their own constitutional future.
And I welcome the comments that were
made by the prime minister in the House
of Commons last weddednesday when he
recognized the centrality of that
principle. It is a fundamental point of
self-determination and I was glad to
have the opportunity to reinforce that
point yesterday. And as for the next
steps that I intend to take, well, I
made it clear yesterday that I want
during this parliamentary term for
Scotland to have the opportunity to
decide on our constitutional future
through a referendum on independence.
And I will make sure that the efforts of
my my own office and those of government
are put to ensure that that is the case
and the people of Scotland are free to
decide their own future by 2031.
[applause]
>> Christopher Leis,
thank you officer. The first minister
has long recognized the importance of
flight connections to communities in the
highlands and islands and I was glad to
see the cabinet secretary for transport
call the regional aviation stakeholder
meeting. However, given the cabinet
secretary isn't attending the meeting,
he himself called to hear directly from
stakeholders in the highlands and
islands. Will the first minister attend
in his place?
>> First Minister,
the the the cabinet secretary has of
course already intervened on flight
issues and I'm very pleased with the
outcome that he's managed to secure to
um to to sustain a number of services
that um have been taken forward. In
relation to the uh the forum, the the
discussion involves representatives of
the government and uh I know that all of
the information that is aired will be uh
fed to ministers and ministers will take
the appropriate decisions on these
questions and the uh let me just take
this opportunity to reinforce the
importance that I attach to flight
connections to our island communities
and I know that's a point that's
reinforced by the work of the cabinet
secretary
>> Jenny Mento.
>> Thank you presiding officer. Tomorrow,
Chest, Heart, and Stroke Scotland launch
its new women's health plan. Given that
women are 50% more likely than men to
receive an initial misdiagnosis
following a heart attack and continue to
experience poorer cardiovascular
outcomes, can I ask the first minister
what action the Scottish government is
taking through phase two of the Scot of
the Scottish government's women's health
plan to improve women's cardiovascular
health and build on existing commitments
to reduce these inequalities. First
Minister, first of all, can I recognize
the important work that Jenny Mento
herself did in her time as a minister to
advance the women's health plan. Um, as
she will be aware, phase two of the
women's health plan aims to address the
inequalities that affect the health of
all women and girls in Scotland. Uh, the
CVD risk factors program has a dedicated
women's health workstream focused on
reducing lifetime cardiovascular risk in
women with hypertensive disorders of
pregnancy. Support and resources have
been developed with a variety of third
sector partners ensuring these meet the
needs of women. Early findings from
testing sites suggest the pathway of
care is functioning well. In addition,
training is being delivered in the
National Health Service to improve
awareness of the interaction between
women's reproductive health and future
cardiovascular risk amongst health care
professionals.
>> Morvin May McCallum.
>> Thank you, presiding officer. And I'd
just like to highlight that I'm a
counselor with the Highland Counselor.
The fifth sorry the first minister will
possibly seen the story of Sophie McNab
a young girl from Inesse in need of
residential care. Sophie has been placed
in Anan some 230 miles from her f from
her home and her family. Her case is not
a unique one. There are currently 26
Highland children living far from home
in Dfree and Galloway North Lannshire
West and elsewhere. Why? because there
are not suitable provisions for them in
Highland. Does the first minister agree
that children being separated from their
families like this is unacceptable and
will his government bring them home?
Thank you,
>> First Minister.
>> I agree with the fundamental point that
Morvin May McCall makes in the in the
conclusion of her question that it is
best for children to be uh support.
Well, first of all, it's best for
children to be supported in their own
family circumstances if that is safe and
and sustainable to do so. But then if it
is not, they should be supported as
close to home as possible. That's an
inherent element of the promise to which
Morvin May McCallum will be aware the
government is absolutely committed. We
obviously work closely with local
authorities. But um M McCall raises an
important point which is the fact that
whilst there may be a number of of
children and young people in the
Highlands who require that support,
there may not be all of that provision
in that individual locality, which is
one of the reasons why I think we have
to look to undertake some of the more
regional work that is to is necessary to
make sure we have provision that meets
better meets the needs of individual
young people but the the government
Siobhan Brown the minister for the
promise would be happy to engage further
about the specific problem that is
raised uh within the highlands and of
course we'd be happy to discuss that
with representatives of Highland Council
who have responsibility in this area
>> Miles Briggs thank you deputy presiding
officer last Monday the Scottish
Medicine's consortium approved two
presiding officer Last Monday uh the
Scottish Medicine Consortium approved
two promising new drugs for metastatic
breast cancer um which offer real hope
and for those who are suffering from the
disease before it progresses in England.
These drugs and necessary genomic tests
have been available now for over a year
but patients here in Scotland
increasingly cannot access these drugs
because the genomic tests that
establishes if someone's suitable to
receive them are not routinely available
on NHS Scotland. This doesn't just
affect breast cancer. Since 2021, at
least 15 other cancer medicines have
been restricted because of a lack of
availability of testing. So, can the
first minister provide any update on
what interimm solution will be put in
place for patients looking to access
these treatments? And does the first
minister also agree with me that
Scotland needs a sustainable long-term
model for genomic testing?
First Minister
on the H the first point about
availability of treatments. Um that
issue has been actively explored just
now by the health secretary in relation
to the outcome of the SMC consideration
of this issue. Now on the second point
about genomic testing, I I was involved
in a discussion just last week on a
separate issue not on breast cancer but
which essentially explored the
strengthening of our capability in
relation to genomic testing and and
whilst I I would want to you know convey
some encouragement to Mr. Briggs that I
think good progress has been made. Um
the conversation uh that I was involved
in involved a briefing from the chief
scientist and health de Manich who is
leading very significant work to advance
this area. So I I would say to Mr.
Briggs that the specific issues being
explored but the general issue about
some of the testing and assessment
arrangements is actually progressing
significantly. and um we I'll I'll write
to Mr. Briggs with some information to
address his interest and to give him
reassurance that progress is being made.
>> Pauline Stafford,
>> the events over the weekend in the town
of Armadale in my constituency with the
death of a 35year-old man reportedly
following a targeted attack and
suspected use of a firearm have deeply
shocked the community and my thoughts
are with his family and all those
affected at this time. I appreciate this
is an ongoing police investigation.
However, can the first minister provide
my constituents with reassurance that
the Scottish government and please
Scotland are taking all necessary steps
to ensure the safety of the community?
First minister, I was very sorry to hear
about the incident at the weekend and
I'm appreciate the opportunity that
Pauling Stafford provides for me to
comment on the issue. Um, as Paul
Stafford indicates, this is a live
police investigation. I'm advised that
police Scotland have all of the
available resources that are necessary
to explore and examine this particular
case and with the expertise that comes
from being um the the the the national
force of Scotland to enable those issues
to be addressed. I would also want to
take this opportunity to reassure
Pauling Stafford and her constituents
that issues of public safety are
uppermost in the consideration of Police
Scotland in reassuring members of the
public.
>> William MacArthur. Thank you, Presiding
Officer. This week, November published a
comprehensive report exploring the
leading causes of premature mortality
amongst men in Scotland. The real face
of men's health shows that men born in
Scotland currently have the lowest life
expectancy of any UK nation at 77.4
years and the social economic factors
are contributing to significant
disparities in men's health across the
country. Does the first minister share
my alarm at these findings and if so,
what action will he take to improve
outcomes for men's health across every
community in Scotland?
>> First minister,
>> I'm great I'm grateful to Mr. MacArthur
for raising this question because the
report is a timely reminder of some of
the challenges that we face in relation
to men's health and the need to improve
outcomes in relation to men's health and
well-being. Uh there is a very heavy
focus in the government's program on
shifting to early intervention and
prevention. So that means intervening on
issues in relation to um alcohol and
drug uh use. It means also an
encouraging and supporting men to live
healthier lifestyles to provide the
greatest capacity to be able to deal
with the risk of heart disease uh stroke
um uh lung cancer issues and of course
also mental well-being. So the
fundamental shift in our public services
and to early intervention and prevention
is designed to address the issues the
important issues that Mr. MacArthur
raises. Amanda Linty
>> to ask the first minister if he will
stop his government smearing women who
protested at Glasgow Green over the
weekend as far right and instead tell
this chamber what he will do to address
the failures on women's safety that took
them there.
First Minister,
I'll be leading a debate this afternoon
on violence against women and girls, and
I want to have uh an an open and a
candid discussion on these important
issues. But what I will also say to
Amanda Lindsay is I will never ever ever
ever stop confronting the far right in
this country.
[applause]
Lloyd Melvilleing
>> officer Dundy and Angus College has
ambitious plans for a new campus at our
broth which would be the biggest
education and regeneration project in
the town's history. The SNP manifesto
committed the government to supporting
Dundy and Angus College to renew their
estate. So can I ask the first minister
for an update on that work being
undertaken with the Scottish funding
council to drive this project forward?
First Minister,
>> presiding officer, the the the the plans
of Dundian Angus College that Mr.
Melville highlights are ambitious plans.
They will affect both the city of Dundee
and also um our growth. The government
has provided 2 million pounds to the
funding council for a first wave group
of colleges to develop business cases
for transformational capital investment
projects and Angus College received
700,000 of additional funding from this
to help determine the best option for
renewal and through the work of the
funding council the government will stay
close to the developments in this
respect. Martin D.
>> Presiding officer, the first minister
will be aware of the 53 to 54% success
rate for motability appeals with
tribunals often taking 12 to 18 months.
What representations will Scottish
ministers make to their UK counterparts
to try to reduce these appeal delays
that leave successful claimments without
a motility car for up to 18 months?
First Minister sir, we have made
representations to the UK government on
this important question. Uh we want to
make sure that where motivability cars
are required by individuals which is in
many cases um uh the only way in which
individuals can receive any degree of
ability to uh to to move within the
community um are supported and supported
in a timely fashion. And Mr. Today's
question to me will um prompt me to
ensure that the relevant minister will
make further representations to the
United Kingdom government.
>> Ollie Bruce,
>> the site of Scotland's first national
football ground and a vital community
space sits within my constituency
Glasgow Southside and a group of
neighbors known as First Hampton are
fighting to keep that site as both a
community hub and football heritage site
open to all. Does the first minister
agree with me that this space should be
protected and run by the community
instead of sold off to the highest
bidder? First Minister,
>> I I I think on on this one, presiding
officer, I I'm very sympathetic to the
issues that are raised, but I think I
better just um ensure that I can give an
accurate answer to Holly Bruce about
what are the relevant issues that have
been wrestled with here around ownership
and use and I will write to her in due
course with the detail of what the
government can do in that case.
>> David Lindon,
>> grateful presiding officer. Um the first
minister made reference earlier on in
response to Liam MacArthur about the
importance of men's health and in
particular the November report. I'm sure
the first minister were aware that
places like men's sheds are particularly
important in terms of how we shine a
subtle yet bright light on those issues.
Could I therefore press the first
minister to come to visit shelson
menshed and then see the importance of
these community spaces in terms of
advocating issues pertaining to men's
health.
First Minister
>> Brazil, I'm very happy to visit the
Shettles men's shed. I've um met visited
a number of these ventures around the
country. I think the most recent was in
the constituency of my colleague
Michelle Campbell in Renfruit if my
memory serves me right, but I have
constituency experience. Men [snorts]
sheds are very very helpful in
encouraging men to meet together and to
perhaps overcome some of the challenges
that they face in relation to personal
isolation. And it's a tremendous
movement that's made an impact, a very
welcome impact on the lives of men in
Scotland. And I'm glad to hear that
there's a vibrant organization in
Shettles and I look forward to finding
the opportunity to meet the organization
with Mr. London.
>> Thank you. And Michael Mara, presiding
officer, the first minister will be
aware of the severe issues that women in
T-side are facing accessing gynecology
services. NHSTID have told the Scottish
government that waiting times of over a
year have reduced from 1,348
to 11. Those figures are simply not
true. First Minister, I have many
constituents who are waiting multiple
years. One constituent was told she
would wait over 3 years for a
hyerectomy. She took a loan and went
private and she's never made it on to
the waiting list as a result. Does the
first minister believe that these
terrible weights in T-side are
acceptable? First Minister I I I
basically take the view that um weights
have got to be reduced wherever they
are. So the point that Mr. Mara raises
about gynecology services in T-side um
is an important point and I want to see
these waiting times reduced. I'll I I
will of course go away and look at the
statistics that Mr. Mara has raised
doubts about today because it's
important that all of these questions
are are accurate. um on a weekly basis
the health secretary and I are looking
at waiting list levels by um by
discipline and by locality around the
country and there is variation there are
some parts of the country where in
certain disciplines uh there is a very
good performance and waiting uh times in
other parts of the country in the same
discipline that is not the case one of
the issues that was raised with by Mr.
green a few weeks ago. So that's one of
the reasons why the government is
pursuing its reform program in relation
to the National Health Service so that
we can remove the ob the obstruction
that sometimes healthboard boundaries
can put in the way of ensuring that the
type of equity that Mr. Mara seeks for
his constituents can actually be
delivered without there being barriers
in the way. But I will look at those
particular uh figures. H but what I
would assure Mr. Mar is there is a
sustained interrogation on a weekly
basis by the health secretary and I of
the steps that have been taken to reduce
waiting lists and waiting times and he
will understand from what I've said at
this podium for some time I attach the
greatest of importance to this issue.
>> Thank you first minister and apologies
to 28 members I was unable to take
today. Um, moving on from uh backbench
questions to the first minister, the
next item of business is a debate on
motion 1163 in the name of John Swinny
on preventing violence against women for
an equally safe Scotland.