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The video provides a first look at the new dungeon system in World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade Classic, specifically focusing on a Paladin's experience with the newly introduced "Seal Twisting" talent. The host initially attempts to utilize this mechanic, which allows players to swap their active seal instantly while inside an instance, but quickly encounters significant issues regarding gameplay flow and resource management. Upon entering the dungeon, the teleportation mechanics and the sheer difficulty of the content become apparent, with the group struggling through early encounters that feel surprisingly punishing compared to expectations for a classic-style expansion. The host notes that while the talent tree design is roughly 70% similar to what was hoped for, the implementation of seal swapping feels clunky and disrupts the natural rhythm of combat, leading to a lack of the expected "dopamine hit" from successful gameplay loops. A major point of contention during the trial run is the excessive mana consumption associated with the Seal Twisting build, which forces the player to constantly manage resources rather than focusing on damage output or survival. The host discovers that the current version of Holy Strike lacks the impact of its predecessor, Crusader Strike, dealing significantly less damage and having a long cooldown that hampers overall effectiveness. Furthermore, the mechanics of the Seal of Righteousness are criticized for not applying correctly to both white attacks and commands as intended, and the Consecrate ability has been nerfed in a way that deviates from the original Vanilla experience by limiting its area of effect based on nearby enemies. These changes collectively make the Paladin feel underpowered and inefficient, prompting the host to abandon the Seal Twisting spec in favor of a more traditional setup involving improved seals and command abilities. Despite the mechanical frustrations, the video highlights several positive aspects of the dungeon's presentation and technical execution. The host praises the updated graphics and lighting, noting that Blizzard successfully modernized the visual fidelity without making the game look like Retail World of Warcraft, thereby preserving the classic aesthetic. However, the dungeon design itself occasionally feels too polished or "retail-like," and the group encounters various bugs, such as enemies getting stuck in staircases and unexpected teleportation issues that disrupt the raiding experience. The session concludes with the host acknowledging that while the demo was fun and showcased some exciting potential, the current state of the Seal Twisting talent is flawed and likely requires further tuning before it can be considered a viable option for serious players.
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Should I try and do dungeon seal twisting first? Cuz like the holy shock build is like max level and see how it feels. See what's fun. No, I think Pursuit of Justice is cringe. >> Yo, go inside the dungeon and then change. >> Oh, you scared me. [laughter] >> Go go go inside and then change it cuz what? >> Okay. Ready? >> Yeah. >> Wait, am I here? >> Teleported out. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. >> Wait, what does it do? I was lagging, dude. He ganked me. I was lagging. I was on EU servers >> right now. Does it still teleport you out? >> Instance is full. Wait, so did somebody log out in the instance? We have like six people in this right now. >> Why? We were trying to raid in there, >> dude. They tuned it so hard. >> There's no way it's that hard. >> It's so hard. >> I don't believe in power. >> It's so hard. Joker is getting farmed right now. >> There's no way it's that hard. >> Oh, it worked. I promise. Okay, we're going to try the seal twist talent. Wait, am I going to rank one? Wait, hold on. Am I going to max rank? Is a built-in damage meter? Wait, where? Oh, look at my freaking massive freaking wiener, dude. I'm number one. How do I move this thing? Dude, I missed. What's my weapon speed? 2.9 dance game. Can you move your buffs? Like I don't want all this stuff here. Oh, perfect. Can I make it just my stuff? You know what I kind of don't like? I I I just uh my my problem right now with this easy twist is like uh it just you don't get the dopamine hit. It's just not there. Let's do a dungeon and see how it feels. also Seal of righteousness should apply to your white and your command. It's not applying to both. Holy strike is such a long cool down. Wait, I kind of rip through mana still. So, my mana consumption actually is still really high. I'm noticing Heat. Heat. Block. Block. I got something blocked. Melee block. >> Give me wisdom. >> Yo, Cala command got blocked. >> Wait, what are we doing? My CIA command got blocked. You guys see that? What are we doing? Why are we pulling the whole dungeon? I'm needing that as mine. I'm needing everything. >> Uh, dude, they should have added swing timers. I don't know why they don't have swing timer in like built into the thing. Like playing a melee with a swing timer is like it's crazy. Nice number. Okay. Is is druid is rest broken? Okay, so here's a problem with the the the twisting thing that I have. I'm realizing there's a problem with the twisting talent idea. My mana consumption is through the roof, and it's not normally like that. Like, it just feels I don't know why, man. I got to I I really have to think about why it feels so much worse. I'm like just ripping through meta. You know, actually, you know why my mana consumption is bad? I think I'm I think I keep muscle memory recasting a seal after I judge. Okay. Okay. Hold on. Let's think about this. I need to go like rank one righteousness max rank command swing judge. Back to righteousness. You know what, dude? This kind of does feel like a retail dungeon. Look at Look at the whole area, man. I don't know. Something about this just feels like a retail dungeon. [music] I It's just one dungeon, right? I'm needing on every piece of loot that drops here. We're going through I'm playing a rep paladin here. What's the name of this dungeon? This dungeon is called the drowned city with savage sodako soda boavin and uh I'm playing a seal twisting rat paladin. The talent tree is like very very similar to what I actually would have wanted. I would say like probably 70 to 80%. But one of the biggest difference of what I was hoping for is uh holy strike versus crusader strike as far as a rat paladin goes. So holy strike doesn't really hit very hard. 42% weapon damage plus an additional 32 to 37 is holy damage. So it cuts through armor, but it's not very it doesn't hit very hard and it's got a 12 second cool down. I can get it to 10 if I talented, but it seems kind of lackluster. I really would have liked for them to do like the implementation of early like patch 2.0 Crusader Strike also making it holy damage. So kind of in the middle of what they're doing with holy strike and then old patch 2.0 over Crusader Strike would have been really nice. So, what you have is what we call a two-way seal twist and your seal doesn't actually expire whenever you cast judgment. Judgment is still not on the global cooldown. So, I don't need to recast my seal anymore, but I just don't think that's necessary. So, so Daku is arms. He's not actually pro. Do the normal strat. What do you mean, bro? This is a demo at Blizzcon. What? Do you mean the strat? just [ __ ] >> Dude, it's a normal rat, dude. Dude, I want to do the speedrun, dude. Next time we do the speedrun. Dude, I keep Bro, what? Oh my god, >> dude. I'm out of mana. Oh, we're so dead. >> Oh my gosh. >> Why did we release at the beginning of the dungeon? Is that for the demo? Uh oh. There's another two-hander. Morbid Dawn or weapons. Strike of the Hydra. Wait, Strike of the Hydra. Wait, that sucks. Corpse Maker. Give me that big old corpse maker, brother. Oh, hell yeah. We're about to drive the big wheel. >> We should mark. We should mark all this everything I have left. Chance, can you res here? I bought I bought that I bought. [music] >> Why is she healing while sitting? [music] >> Okay, I'm going to I'm going to respect. I'm going to respect Shocketin. I mean, the thing is I'm learning my class talents. I'm I'm thinking about Okay, I'm going to do a hybrid DPS build improved holy strike divine strength improve seals. I'm using the mana cost to cleanse be right beard disorient focus um >> I'm thinking that [music] I >> go here. A [music] >> I mean reducing the mana cost to consecrate cutting that in half would be really nice. But is this a stupid build? Yeah, consecrated baseline. Okay, so I'm not going to seal twist. I mean, 50 spell damage is pretty good at this level, isn't it? Wait, >> respawns. [laughter] >> There's respawns. >> Kill ourselves. I went too [ __ ] I don't know. I don't know. Dude, this demo has existed for like 5 hours and we already found a safe spot in a level 38 dungeon. Okay, so I changed to improve seals. You do 15% more judge and seal damage instead of seal twisting. Cuz like here's the thing. Seal twisting right now kind of sucks ass. Because the seal of righteousness only a single applies, >> dude. Not casting your seal feels weird if you don't seal. Wait, wait, there's OP. Nice. That was easy, dude. Actually, I think me respecting out of seal twist helped immensely there cuz like I I was like running out of mana really bad. It's literally funny. We're all sitting next to each other just talking [ __ ] chat. My personality begin. Oh, scary. Nice. Oh my gosh, look at that shield. Let's [ __ ] melee cam. What? What? What? This shield is crazy. >> It's It's like too good. >> That's awesome. >> That's insane. That is insane. That's too good. Chad, I was top damage on that boss. Okay. Do you know who I am? >> I was top damage. Don't talk to me. >> There is seal twisting, but I think it's bad. They're arguing about the gear, dude. You guys just freaking arguing. Lion, steal, and thieve, dude. That's all they do. I already gave it. Okay, so here's what I've noticed so far. Uh, Seal Twist build was complete ass and burned a ton of mana. Uh, I think it's cuz I'm doing it completely wrong. >> [music] >> Oh my god. Oh my god. >> Dude, what the [ __ ] >> What? over. >> Dude, I got hit for I got hit for 757 and then 994. Dude, what the freak, man? Wait. Oh, how do you What the What? How do you guys stop? How do you do that? How do you do that? No, I don't think it's impossible. I think there's I think there's a mechanic that we have to do. I don't know how to say Dude, I don't think we kill him. Oh no, I'm dazed. He's coming. He's going to come. Heat. Heat. should just stay out of comment and press. Oh, wait. He's not left. Okay. Okay. As immediately as soon as I enter >> [cheering] >> What do we What? [laughter] Dude, he's in the stairs. What? Dude, we bugged him out. He's just stuck in the stair. Who is he targeting, dude? Dude, we bugged him. I think he's just stuck. He's not targeting anyone. I think we just skip. Like we clearly need to skip Palfield. So I went with the seal [music] twist talent. I don't like it. Uh I was just like ripping through mana. I swapped to I I went with another spec with seal of command improved seals and uh my damage was better and I I used less mana. I just think that the way that they implemented the seal twist is pretty not good. Righteousness [music] also doesn't double like they need to change righteousness to the burning crusade version. This version of seal of righteousness is bad. Consecrate is like the good consecrate. First off, they nerfed consecrate damage and they made it do less damage beyond four mobs on top of nerfing the damage. This is not classic. Like literally, it's not vanilla. When it's vanilla, they're like, "Oh, well, we want to keep it vanilla. Oh, it's burning g. We want to keep it burning crusade as much as possible, but with a with like a new game, they're willing to change and adjust stuff hopefully. [laughter] OH, [laughter] >> my name. >> Dude, the the dance is so stupid. Dude, the dance is so stupid. It's like perfect. Feral look like berserk. So, he didn't get mangle. Oh, bear form. Wait, mangle. Wait, what is what is mangle? I thought mangle was a not a It says bear form only for Mangle. It's a different Mangle. Yeah, it it didn't look right. I still got to look at the druid talents. Oh my gosh, it looks insane. Now, I'll be honest. I I I do like some of the new like tech, like the lighting and stuff. I genuinely think they did a good job with that. Like they found a way to update the graphics without making it look like retail. I'm saying the design of the dungeon feels kind of retaily. Wait, there's no Oh, there's no uh Oh, no. Okay, there's got to be an air bubble somewhere. Hey, next room. Next room. Next room. Next room. How long? [ __ ] >> I'm out of here. >> Dude, we found the oxygen. >> Wait, you're done, dude? We're just >> dueling. Huh? >> Duel. >> Where? >> Outside or duel? >> Who? >> [ __ ] random people. I don't care. >> What? Are there going to be people there? >> I mean, see what's up. >> I mean, I'm down. Yeah, I'll go in first. [clears throat] Uh why? He's going against me right now. Heat. Heat. I can't even Yeah, that's what happens through the TBC Gladiator, you know. That's just that's what happens when you get TBC Gladiator chat. It's GG's. It's trolling. I'm just trolling. [laughter] [clears throat] >> Wait, hold on. Hold on. >> Don't lay on hands. >> No, hold on. I have to make a new character. >> Just make a new character. >> Hold on. Let me fix uh I have to respe. next week. >> Do we I have due to respect? >> I don't have I don't receive justice. >> Okay, I think we got to wrap up. >> Do we? >> Is that it? Do we have to wrap up? >> Just keep going until they kick you off. >> Huh? >> Just keep going until they kick you off. >> They'll tell us. Dude, a warlock. >> What's wrong with you, man? >> [screaming] >> I can't use yet. >> Dude, you hit so hard. >> Yeah. It's too easy. >> Damn. >> I don't think you can be without >> I don't think so. The dude the damage is insane. >> What spec are you? >> Dude, balance dude is crazy. >> The thing is I can't seal twist command into justice to like proc a stun to like stop the stop the starfire. >> Yeah, dude. I just think they need to make the seal mechanics like TBC. Like I don't know. I I feel even more strongly about it than I used to. They remove seal twisting completely, but then there's a level like 30. The 31 talent is this. But it's it feels really bad. No, there's there's a lot of things with Paladin they I mean, dude, look at this. Compared to my own talent trees, it's so similar. It's insanely similar. >> Oh my god. >> I would change I mean, I changed my like some things I think are different, [laughter] but I would say it's like 70%. >> Hello. [screaming] >> Oh my god. >> His logs just broken. What? >> His log just broken. >> What the [ __ ] >> What? >> It did not break. >> Freaking I don't have bubble. What? >> We're going to go hang out with people. We're going to get with everybody and uh Gladiator Arenas. Gladiator. Gladiator. Go roast Pika. Nah. Sometimes you just got to let the play do the talking, dog. No. No. I just got lucky. I got super lucky against Warlock. I just did crazy. I got crazy procs right at the end. >> All right. See, dude, that was super fun. I will be back tomorrow and I will stream more. Tomorrow what the plan is going to be. It is a uh I'll do some of this. I didn't get to look at all the classes. I'll go through and I'll look at all the classes. I didn't look at shaman. I didn't look at druid. Oh man, dude. My ass is sore from sitting.