Fauci's Body Language EXPOSED During Senate Grilling | Hand Tremors and Contempt Cues Decoded

Today we're going to talk about Anthony Fouch's body language during the Senate hearing where they're talking about the origins of COVID. We've got some interesting videos for you. Greg, tell us about them. What we're going to see are Republican senators questioning Fouchi. We didn't see much value in the Democrat senators applauding him. It's more telling often when you're being assaulted, attacked, and asked questions, but I don't think you're going to be too impressed with his answers. And then when it comes to ivormectin, which by the way because I had I was contacted by so many people uh I referred them to doctors who actually had the courage and compassion to treat vaccine injured individuals. It works. But I was going to ask you whether you're involved in the uh FDA attack on Ivormect. you had a uh interview on CNN in August 29th of uh 2021 where again I I just don't want to take time to find the exact quote but you know said there's no evidence there's no evidence that Ivormectton is helpful on that exact same day and I I've got the I've got the studies right here there was a website that was tracking the the random controlled studies Here they are showing 60 70% efficacy of ivormectin. The same day you say there's no evidence. There was all kinds of evidence loved ones had to go to hospitals had to sue hospitals. Just would you try it? So I I would want to know you know to what extent were you involved in sabotaging hydroxychloricquin Ivormectin and and did you do that because you knew the only only way you get an emergency use authorization for these drugs these experimental gene therapy was if there was no effective treatment you couldn't think get the emergency use youth authorization. So is that is that why you help sabotage these cheap generic drugs in favor of remaster which by the way nurses are are you aware of the fact that nurses called it run death is near >> on the advice of council I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> All right Chase, what do you got? Uh it looks like there's a level of contempt on the face here and uh it's a contempt for what's happening and maybe contempt for the people that he uh is reporting to the American people. Uh I haven't seen this much in a hearing, maybe in my entire life looking at them all, but there seems to be a hand trimmer here. If you watch his hand on the table, you see a little bit of a trimmer. I haven't personally seen that before. I'm not saying it's new, but I've never seen it before until this hearing. And I did look at the previous hearing today. And uh I didn't see any hand trimmers there. Uh which is interesting. Uh and sometimes the body will speed up appendages uh during times of stress and pressure as Mark says and it has this rapid movement to burn off excess adrenaline. So your body gets a lot of adrenaline. it produces this demand and your body says, "Oh, let me let me dump some of that. Let me get rid of some of that." So, that might be what's happening. We see his uh rapid breathing rate. You could see his breathing rate. Anybody wearing a shirt like this? And we see a chin thrust. And is that a specific moment in the video, which I know that Greg is probably going to talk about. Uh so, Greg, what do you got? >> Yeah, I I actually not, believe it or not. But one of the things I will say is I saw the same thing. Contempt. And the contempt or disdain, which is hard to separate when you're in a situation, could be for multiple things. It could be for I am taking the fifth, so I can't say a damn thing. I can't tell you what color your eyes are because that's now you're violating that whole thing. So, we'll see this thing progress. And I agree with you. I see some contempt for the situation or the people. Who knows? We can't tell that. We tell you what we see. I also see I think part of that agitation is he's almost like he's on a family feud and it's time to slap the buzzer to come out with I bleed the fifth because he's sitting there. you [laughter] see him antsy [clears throat] like uh I'm reaching for it. In fact, he does something that I have used Hillary Clinton to show multiple times when she's talking about the server when she looks around her shoulder like uh I'm kind of in a bind and then makes up a reason she looked over there. He does that. If you watch, he puts his hand up like he's going to go for that and then suddenly realizes it's not time yet and he starts touching his the back of his head. I don't think that's adapting. I think it's looking for a home for an appendage. He's stuck out there and he's just out of place. Um, I did see it. I think he's, you know, he's defiant with that little chin jut that I saw it too, Chase. He's defiant against this guy. Just wait. This is going to get better and better in terms of defiance. What I like about the videos we're using today is there's very little spoken language, which means we have to read cues and body language and try to figure out what we see. What we're going to tell you is what's likely based on what we can tell. We can't read minds, unlike Scott's friend thinks that we're in the mind reading business. We can read symptoms and think, what could it be? And when he does, what I love is Chase when he does a chin jut, he also does eyelocks. He eyelocks with the threat. He does sacred space, meaning he's barriering and adapting and starting to squeeze. So, he's doing it. Now, here's one thing. He's 85 years old. Actually would not have thought that looking at him. But as you age, it gets easier to control some things because you get less flapable. You You're like, "Yeah, until you pass a certain point." If you got dementia or something, a little bit different story. But we get better at taking threats and that kind of thing as we age most of us because we're contained. What we'll look for is when he is so upset that he can't and we see respiration increases in him. That's the first indicator. Mark, what do you got? >> Yeah. So, look, you know, contempt maybe. I I've certainly got some contempt for the situation in that I'm not sure the American people would set up this system whereby you've got one group just praising him and another group just lambasting him. It's it's meant to be an inquiry. I won't look at the body language right now. I think it's been dealt with. I will do later on. But let's look at the nature of this inquiry. You've got a senator here saying no evidence. No evidence. He then produces a large bundle of his own evidence. He says, "I haven't got time to go and get that quote." It's like, "Okay, so you're going to produce all of that, but you haven't got time for that little thing over there. It's grandstanding." Of of course it is. It's going to be grandstanding from both sides and anybody in between. If there is anybody in between. I I doubt there is. So, we've we've looked at inquiries before. I'm at a wonder as to how useful this is for for any of the American public, but I'm happy to take a take a look at it because we've got somebody here suggesting they're doing logos, which is logic. Look, let me show you the evidence. Here's my logic around it. But he talks about an attack on ivormectin that is obviously uh emotional. I'm not saying there wasn't an attack on ivormectin. I'm not saying there is. I'm just saying look here's what's happening here. You've got somebody attacking and you're going to see the results of what happens to that attack. We could look at the videos of him being praised and we could look at what happens during the praise. We're not going to do that. Um and I'll look at the body language later on. But of course, at the end of all of this, he takes the fifth. He says, "I'm not going to say anything." There's some there's some reasonleness or there's some reason behind that. We could we could debate, you know, what those reasons are and maybe we will a little bit later on. But it's, you know, for me, I think we're going to get a decent couple of questions a bit later on. So, hang around for those. But right off the bat here, this is not questioning. This is accusation. And so we're getting the results of somebody being blatantly accused. Maybe rightly, maybe wrongly. That's up to you to decide, but it's blatant accusation, not inquiry at this point. Uh Scott, what do you got on this one? >> I think somebody with I I'll take the just a touch of a psychological perspective on this because I think somebody with a narcissistic level that high has got to have some kind of control over something in a situation like this because he's being put on the spot. He's got nothing. He's he has to sit there and he can't defend himself because he's taken the fifth. Now he goofs around with that pin and I think it's 3x5 cards in front of him and he's doing that to adapt and that's what gives him control of something, anything. He's got to move something around, straighten them out, that kind of thing. So that that's I think from from a narcissistic uh perspective, I think he has to do that. I don't think I don't think he can help it. He has to do it. He's going to he's going to blow his mind. Now, while he's shown that proof of those studies about the ivormectin that did work, that blank stare shows a hint of a smile. It turns um it it's a blank stare, but it does he does smile. I don't think it's duper delighted. I think he's saying you don't know. In other words, he's being defiant. I think that's a smile of defiance. Um because he's not lying about anything. He already lied and supposedly and he's just sitting there taking that and it's his own fault for having to sit there and take that because he should he should he had supposedly has a a get out of jail free card and he's not using it. So I think I think at that point um what happens? Oh yeah, then he holds his smile that that slowly comes on as it goes away. He holds up that pin in his hands and that is what completes his barrier. So he has to have a barrier in there somewhere because again he's being what I think he's being attacked which I feel rightfully so the way they're doing this since he's not going to answer anything and he chose not to then you can say pretty much anything you want and he can't say anything. So then again the pen turns into an adapter and he's he's taking control of that and goofing around with the pen again. So I think the whole thing here for him is trying to find control. I think he's the kind of guy that's used to being in control since he's a doctor and he says oh this is the way it goes. this is the way this works and oh you're so smart how's this going he goes let me tell you here's here's what we do and then when the pandemic came up and things how he could take advantage of that situation I think it got out of hand maybe maybe got away from and he was taking adv taking advantage of that >> and then when it comes to Ivormect which by the way because I had I was contacted by so many people uh I referred them to doctors who actually had the courage and compassion to treat vaccine injured individuals it works But I I was going to ask you whether you were involved in the uh FDA attack on Ivormectton. You had a uh interview on CNN in August 29th of uh 2021 where again I I just don't want to take time to find the exact quote, but you know said there's no evidence there's no evidence that Ivormectin is helpful on that exact same day. And I' I've got the I've got the studies right here. There was a website that was tracking the the random controlled studies there. Here they are showing 60 70% efficacy of ivormectin. The same day you say there's no evidence. There was all kinds of evidence. loved ones had to go to hospitals, had to sue hospitals, just would you try it? So I I would want to know you know to what extent were you involved in sabotaging hydroxychloricquin ivormectin and and did you do that because you knew the only only way you get emergency use authorization for these drugs these experimental gene therapy was if there was no effective treatment you couldn't think get the emergency use authorization. And so is that is that why you help sabotage these cheap generic drugs in favor of remaster which by the way nurses are are you aware of the fact that nurses called it run death is near. >> On the advice of council I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. But I would tell you, countless families, including my own, watched a loved one die behind glass or through a screen because we couldn't get access to them. Children couldn't get to school. People missed their prom or graduation ceremonies. There were lots of things that happened that dramatically changed the future of the country. The mental health issues that we have continued to deal with from the isolation have been profound. Even something as simple as children that wore masks or around adults wearing masks for all that time are slower in learning language now because they couldn't watch someone's lips moving and so they're slower in that. Amazingly enough, churches and places of worship were forced to be closed down. There were even churches that met where the pastor preached in the parking lot and the congregants all met in their cars with windows up and police came and scattered them and said you can't be here. The simple act of social distancing became an issue as everyone guessed what's the right distance to be away from someone else. Literacy rates have declined. All these things are results, not to mention the loss of lives and the health experiences that have been out there for many Americans. So, there are legitimate questions. I wanted to be able to raise some of those to be able to walk through some of this because it has been very very challenging as we've gone through some of your your notes and your diary and other things that are out there. We're trying to be able to pull bits and pieces of things to be able to learn lessons. On May the 6th, 2020, you wrote at that time, I had a conversation with Robert Redfield, who as you know well, was then the director of CDC about the fact that greater than 1 million children worldwide have missed their measles vaccination because of the shutdown. You stated this is terrible and needs to be addressed since on that basis alone there would be far far far more excess deaths from measles among children than corona virus deaths among children. I need to bring this up to the TF the task force. Did you ever have an opportunity to bring up the potential of measles deaths among children and an infection rate going around the world from measles based on the fact that so many children would not get their measles vaccine because of the shutdown? >> I'm sorry, Senator, but on the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> All right, Mark, what do you got? >> Yeah, so last senator did his best at hitting with logic. I don't think it was a great example of this. Here is a great example of using pathos or emotion in order to get the point across. Loved ones dying behind glass, missing their graduation, um, uh, mental health, isolation, slow learning language, churches closed down, loss of right to worship. I mean, some, you know, great American values there being uh, punctured. There's a bit of an irony, you know, that brings in the irony later on of measles versus COVID. There's a bit of an irony for me. Suddenly, suddenly, uh, you know, literacy literacy rates declined and suddenly the Senate is worried about literacy rates coming out of that kind of comes out of nowhere from my point of view. So, there's a bit of an irony there, but again, takes the fifth at the end. So, so and we can talk about why, you know, why that might be helpful for him and why it might not and and what exactly that's trying to do for him. But ultimately, yeah, good good tried and attack using emotion there. I think it works pretty well. I'll let everybody else uh answer what they think about the the body language there. But again, an attack and not really any questioning going on, but it'll come. Some decent questions will come for sure. Greg, what do you got on this one? Yeah. What I do like about this, Mark, is while he is attacking, he actually hits home. He lands a couple of punches. You can see the body blows because you see Fouch's head go back. >> That's that's move movement when he's talking about watching people die behind glass. It's pretty horrible to to think about that. And you see he does a preparatory breath. You hear I think that's Fouchy ready to lash back, but he realizes he can't. I think that's where we're gonna see this thing come from. And it can't or it could be a side of comfort self. But one way or the other, he landed a blow. And then he does some slight nodding and fleeting micros of contempt. When when he says something about a prom, that's pretty hardcore contempt in his face when he mentions prom. I'm sure he would have lashed back and said that's not as important as boom boom boom or whatever. And then Mark, I'm sure you noticed the Wallace and Grummit almost. He didn't show his teeth, >> but the eek at dispersing outdoor sermons, he almost shows his teeth. It's so bad. So he's landing blows that matter and it is important. Then when he gets to that significant um to that 1 million miss their measles vaccine. Look at the blink rate go through the roof. So he's landing blows that are mattering and the guy can't say anything. It's probably he feels discomfort. He wants to say something that he can't. We can't really tell that. But what we can see is this piece. Then ask if he had the opportunity. You see purse lips disapproval. This is a lot coming out. This is what I like is we're seeing body language when a person can't say a word. And then finally, he's got a couple last pieces there. Um, at the end where of his comment on that la very last comment, you can see the stain in his face and withdraws at the side of his mouth. This is probably going to be what we see a lot of because he can't say anything other than I take the fifth, I take the fifth, I take the fifth. And this stuff will wear and tear on you if you're sitting there, especially if you're a person who has traditionally been able to have an answer for everything. Can you imagine the four of us sitting and going, "I take the fifth." We would all want to lash out. Every one of us want to lash out at a person who's saying something we know isn't true, even if we're not allowed to. And then you got to ask yourself, why would you take the fifth when you have immunity? Well, there are other people that don't have immunity might be part of the answer to that. So, there's a ton of strategy and that kind of thing going on. Whether you like it or I like it, whether we think that it's something evil, that's all going to be conjecture. And you if you watch the other side, you see people all applauding him and praising him. I don't see a whole lot of value in sitting watching a person who's being praised because we all know how that looks. They all go, "Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah." Scott, what do you got? >> Yeah. What I think is rude is the way you all have kicked me out of the comments on our on our channel because I go in there and fuss with people like that. What made you take the >> Martha Martha sent me a note and said, "Leave her cat alone." >> Well, she started it. The cat started it. So, uh, yeah, I've had to take the fifth in the comments [laughter] because of you guys. Anyway, when he hears about, uh, the part about not having access to to his dying loved ones, that's when his head goes back and he breathes in that real deep breath and he stretches a little bit. And that's not because he's empathetic toward the people that that had to deal with that. I think it's because he knows that that's the fact that that that happened that people take that personally, like really personally. If that happened to me, I'd be livid. and the people who are um behind this uh I guess you call it case against him, they're not going to let it go because it hit them on a personal level in so many ways. So I think he's thinking about that how this is going to keep the fires burning for this thing and it's not going to go away. I think it I think that's why his head goes back or that could be a reason his head goes back. And when when the senator says the the police came and scattered them, well, we hear a pretty loud noise in the background. It's not loud to us, but you can tell it's loud in there. And that's where you see that little grimace face on uh Bouch's face cuz just briefly, it's a little bit longer than a micro expression. Actually, it's about three times longer than a micro expression, but it's on there. He has a little grimace face. And I think that that's why it's not because what was said or or anything in there. And then he talks about the children missing their measles vaccinations because of the shutdown. Then then Fouchy starts adapting by scratching and rubbing on his ear. Now, our ears are really sensitive. And so, when that happens, as small as that is, that helps us relax a little bit. That's that goes back to Joe Navaro's self soothing behavior. He's got coin that. And so, that's what he's doing. He's self soothing anything to make yourself feel more relaxed and feel better. Um, so, and I think he's doing that because his his stress at this point, and I fight with myself about this. I think about this a lot because I I think on one hand, he's going through a lot of stress. he's he feels a lot of stress and that kind of thing, but if he's a psychopath, he's not going to feel that kind of stress. And the reason I'm I'm I sort of straddle that road a little bit is because of what's that girl's name? The one that came up with a blood test, you know, like a drop of blood, you can tell if you got cancer or not. >> Elizabeth Holmes. >> Elizabeth. >> Yeah. So, you've got somebody like that who doesn't care if you have cancer or not. And she doesn't care that that you're not going to find out if you do have it. just going to say you don't once you get your drop of blood. It's sort of the same thing here. He's dealing with millions of people and millions of people's lives and the way they they are dealing with their families and people dying and how they get to interact or don't get to interact with people in their families and not caring about that having having no concern with that. That makes me think maybe this cat's a psychopath the way the way he treats that the way he goes about that. I really I mean seriously it makes me think down that road. So, I'll stop there. Uh, Chase, what do you got? >> I have a theory about that. >> All right, let's hear it. >> So, we're seeing a lot of the fidgeting and moving around and that kind of thing, breathing. Those are also behaviors you do when you're bored. >> It's true. >> And I think we're seeing a lot of bored behavior and not not a whole lot of stress. So, I think him just like just messing with that pen is just trying to pass the time. I really think that some of these might just be boredom. Even hearing about the deaths, I think we're still seeing boredom. That's my opinion. >> No, you're right. As I go through that, too. I talked about that in the same one, I think. >> Yeah, I went through this today and called a lawyer. So, the fifth amendment doesn't apply post a certain date that was on his pardon, right? Or his pardon doesn't go past a date, right? So while he's in court today, if he says something that's not accurate, he can still be charged with perjury and they could still build a case for something that happened outside of the lines a little bit. So >> it's also federal and not um and not state. >> That's right. >> Yeah. So it can be charged in a state. >> Yeah. >> And Chase, that that manufacturing of distraction that gets more compound in the next video, too. So there's some value. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So uh during this whole period I think they knew uh everyone at the NIH knew what isolation does to kids brains. Uh the studies on separation anxiety and these critical windows for social wiring for kids and how like fear messaging imprints a thousand times deeper than anything else. Um then you could actually see this spike in ER visits for suicide attempts, kids forgetting how to play. That's real actually. Uh and you see I kids just kind of going flat. Uh and I think they were systematically starved of the exact input that the nervous system of a little kid needs to form secure attachments like facial literacy which is an actual thing. risk calibration uh what something that psychologists call unscripted peer bonding and doing all this kind of stuff. In my opinion, this was a long game. Uh they knew the serious risk and I think this was maybe some kind of goal for long-term behavior that they will these kids might carry for life and they are changed for life. The kids who went through this are changed forever. That's all I got. >> All right. I'll go then. How's that sound? >> You just passed it to me. >> I know. Oh, did I? I didn't go there. You went. >> You did go. >> You sure you >> You just went and passed it to me. I was laughing. [laughter] >> No, >> I handed it to you. Mark, >> I scooted forward. Sorry, I scooted forward on my thing. And no wonder I'm I'm reading my notes. Look at those going. >> You've been You've been arguing too much in the comments. >> That's what's going on. I've got my notes up. are like, "You haven't said that yet." Yeah. What a smartass I sound like. What a dick. [laughter] I guess Elco. Yeah, man. But I would tell you, countless families, including my own, watched a loved one die behind glass or through a screen because we couldn't get access to them. Children couldn't get to school. People missed their prom or graduation ceremonies. There are lots of things that happened that dramatically changed the future of the country. The mental health issues that we have continued to deal with from the isolation have been profound. Even something as simple as children that wore masks or around adults wearing masks for all that time are slower in learning language now because they couldn't watch someone's lips moving. And so they're slower in that. Amazingly enough, churches and places of worship were forced to be closed down. There were even churches that met where the pastor preached in the parking lot and the congregants all met in their cars with windows up and police came and scattered them and said you can't be here. The simple act of social distancing became an issue as everyone guessed what's the right distance to be away from someone else. Literacy rates have declined. All these things are results, not to mention the loss of lives and the health experiences that have been out there for many Americans. So, there are legitimate questions. I wanted to be able to raise some of those to be able to walk through some of this because it has been very very challenging. As we've gone through some of your your notes and your diary and other things that are out there, we're trying to be able to pull bits and pieces of things to be able to learn lessons. On May the 6th, 2020, you wrote at that time, I had a conversation with Robert Redfield, who as you know well, was then the director of CDC about the fact that greater than 1 million children worldwide have missed their measles vaccination because of the shutdown. You stated this is terrible and needs to be addressed since on that basis alone there would be far far far more excess deaths from measles among children than corona virus deaths among children. I need to bring this up to the TF the task force. Did you ever have an opportunity to bring up the potential of measles deaths among children and an infection rate going around the world from measles based on the fact that so many children would not get their measles vaccine because of the shutdown? >> I'm sorry, Senator, but on the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> Same year, 2020. This is again still before our first death. There was not total agreement about the likelihood of deliberate insertion. Ron said he was he was sure that this could occur naturally and we should not waste our time and divert our effort to pursue this. This is expected of him since he was the original gain of function person with Yoshi. Also, Christian was withdrawn. The rest felt deliberate insertion was possible and given the fact that Dr. Jin Lingshi at the University of Wuhan has been working for years in gain of function in corona viruses to allow adaptation of the spike protein to bind to the human A2 receptor. We could not let this go. That's a remarkable statement for February the 1st of 2020 when there hadn't even been the first death here, but we knew something was moving. You knew well that something was moving. You identified February the 1st before any of us had ever heard of the Wuhan lab. not only the Wuhan lab in the conversation, but literally the scientist that you named in your own notes, the lead scientist that was there. It's interesting to me on that and the the questions I was going to ask you was just your background and knowledge about the Wuhan lab and and and Dr. Shei and and all the details. I'm I'm aware of where you have been on trying to be able to plead your fifth amendment right, which is your right to be able to do, but I also want to be able to find out some facts to be able to help us for the future on this. The Lawrence Liverour National Laboratory in May of 2020 put out a classified document that has only been recently unclassified on this that had this statement. We assess all the necessary conditions for an accidental release of a laboratory modified corona virus specifically a corona virus adapted to recognize human cell receptors were present at the Chinese Wuan Institute of Urology in mid to late 2019. Now the the question that I had for you is this is May the 27th of 2020. Uh this is the report that most people will see is this. I I have I have clearance. I serve on the intelligence committee. I've actually read this complete document unredacted. My concern is were you given the ability to see this document unredacted based on your position? Were you able to see this and to be able to get this information? I could I could see it and I know what's here. Everybody else just has their conclusion at the beginning of it. Not this. My question to you was going to be did you have access because it's important for the future that people in your position do have access to this kind of information and insight. Is there any way you could answer that question? Were you able to give access to this data? >> On the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> All right, Mark. What do you got? >> Okay, so this is better for me because here we've got something a little more like questions. Not that I've got a problem with accusations and not that I've got a problem with somebody, you know, uh, being found guilty of something they're they're accused of, but in this partic if you're having a hearing, I want to hear more questions, less accusations or attacks, so I can kind of see, well, what's he responding to here? Is it just somebody attacking him or is he responding to a question? So here I think there is a question around um uh gain of uh um gain of function and accidental release and around gain of function and accidental release we get a spike of behavior that we don't see uh around the rest of the interview or or or lambasting that he's getting ear earlier. It's not an interview. just just getting hammered basically. Then I got no problem with hammering the guy. It's just if we want to in inquiry, let's inquire and let's find out what his behavior is based on the inquiry. This is closest for me to actually inquiry. And I think we do get a spike of behavior around a gain of function and accidental release which is important because what is that agitation that he's showing around here? Is it is it a denial of that? Is it um an acceptance of that? I mean, I don't know because he's going to take the fifth. Yeah. So, we don't know what he's thinking, but we know these things matter more than just words that are being said. They're having an impact on him, like the other stuff wasn't having an impact on him. So, I think this bit is is notable. Really notable. Uh, Greg, what do you got on this one? >> Yeah, I think I agree with you. He manufactures some kind of a distraction in the beginning. He's building I almost thought he's going to build a card house there. You know, he's jacking around with all those cards and doing whatever he's doing. And like we said, why does he have multiple? But he leans back in the chair there and then there's a sudden bunch of face touching and adapting because I think Mark this is at the heart of the issue. And the other thing is for just a minute let's assume he knows he can't answer the question. If the question comes across as genuinely asking instead of beating the crap out of you then it becomes more damaging. Now you're planting a seed instead of saying you did this, you did that, you did this while he can't respond. I think it has more power because we know that when a person comes to epiphany, part of the reason conspiracy theories, good conspiracy theorists bring you to epiphany by throwing out data that's not definable, not determinable, whether it's truthful or not, and then stitching them together with questions to make your brain come to epiphany is powerful. And this guy's doing a very effective job of that. He's asking questions, and you see the sides of his of Fouchi's mouth withdraw. And I think that's disdain at the situation. He realizes where he's at and he has no ability to fight back. And here again, I'll say he may have immunity to your point, Chase, up until a certain date. But if Chase and I did something together and Chase didn't get a pardon, guess who's going to jail. >> So you have to be cautious when you're doing this. And there's highly likely some of that. In addition to to your point, Chase, if he says something after this date, he could have problems. He gets really agitated when that Wuhan analysis is read. When he starts doing that, then we see to start we see a little bit of face touching and there's a little bit of an anomaly in his skin. So I thought, okay, I'll give him a benefit of a doubt. But then there's a whole lot of rubbing and increased blink rate and respiration and barriering, meaning putting hands in stuff between you and disdain with side withdrawing the sides of the mouth. And then he steeples and then does more adapting. That's a lot of stuff. That's a lot of clusters of behavior, which means you might be able to sit and take a a pretty good punching until it starts to land somewhere that you're afraid of something. And even if you have no compassion for a million people that died as a result or children or anything else, you still got self to look out for. And when things start landing, those body blows start to add up. Chase, what do you got? >> Yeah, I totally agree on the face touching here. This is one that's most likely stress. Uh, and it's I don't think it's stress for anyone but himself. I really don't. I don't think there's stress for anyone else because it spikes up right when he's implicated in these questions. And uh, Mark, to your point about questions, I think a lot of these senators realize he's not going to answer a damn thing anybody asks. So, they just decide to poke his ass as hard as they can to see if they could spin him up to maybe like have an outburst. May That's what I would do. If it was me, I would be >> I'd be spinning his ass up. >> Yeah. >> But for for everything else outside the face touching, I don't really think he's bothered by any of this. Um I don't think this is uh stress. Most of this is stress here. What I'm seeing is boredom to me. Very serious issue that all of us care about and bothers all of us. Doesn't bother him, it seems, in the least bit. I think it he's just bored. And I think the movement that we see, most of it is him just passing time. And that's about it, Scott. >> All right. Now, he's back to adapting with that pen. And then he starts rubbing his face. And the thing is, we don't see any concern. Going back to what you're saying, Chase, we don't see any concern, no worry, no sadness, nothing when he's talking about these people and what it did to him. Then his then his attention starts to wander, wander, and he starts making circles on the table with that pen. Then he realizes he's not paying attention. And that's when his head pops up and he tries to focus on what's happening because I I agree agree with you. At some points he just drifts off somewhere. I don't think it's from dementia or anything else. I think he's bored. I think he goes from there are things he's stressed about. I think the situation where he's trying not to fuss back or say anything back. I think that's what the stress is because the stress goes way up. We see the the cues and and and tells of that. But then two seconds later, hell, he looks bored out of his skull. So, and that's pretty scary when you think about it because the senator is talking about the accidental release of the virus. And then Fouchy keeps goofing with a pen and he rubs his face again and we see all the signs of stress. Then we see all the signs of boredom. Then we see stress and we see boredom again. It's just one to the other. And it's not like some kind of of morphing into he's relaxing into it. Now he just clicks right in from one to the other. And then like I said before, there no facial expressions that show anything remotely close to sorrow, grief, um sadness, nothing like that. But that lets us know what he's thinking because he's up here in his head. We can see he gets bored, I think, because he's up there thinking about stuff and he gets lost and he's not listening because there's nothing on his face that shows that shows us gret reg grief, regret, anything like that. So that's that's it's pretty much repetition what se we've seen so far. But that's kind of concerning. I think it's a little bit scary when you see that from the things this guy's talking about and watching Fouch's reactions to those. That's why even though I did a whole video on this on my channel, I just now started putting it this into perspective from a psychological perspective of maybe being a a bit of psychopathy. Obviously, he's a narcissist. It depends on how high up your the narcissism how high up on the narcissism, you know, chart he is if there was a chart, but I think he's dang close if he's not. That's just my opinion, of course. So, all right, we good. >> Yep. As usual, >> same year, 2020. This is again still before our first death. There was not total agreement about the likelihood of deliberate insertion. Ron said he was he was sure that this could occur naturally and we should not waste our time and divert our effort to pursue this. This is expected of him since he was the original gain of function person with Yoshi. Also, Christian was withdrawn. The rest felt deliberate insertion was possible and given the fact that Dr. Jing Lingshi at the University of Wuhan has been working for years in gain of function in corona viruses to allow adaptation of the spike protein to bind to the human A2 receptor. We could not let this go. That's a remarkable statement for February the 1st of 2020 when there hadn't even been the first death here, but we knew something was moving. You knew well that something was moving. You identified February the 1st before any of us had ever heard of the Wuhan lab. not only the Wuhan lab in the conversation, but literally the scientist that you named in your own notes, the lead scientist that was there. It's interesting to me on that and the the questions I was going to ask you was just your background and knowledge about the Wuhan lab and and and Dr. Shei and and all the details. I'm I'm aware of where you have been on trying to be able to plead your fifth amendment right, which is your right to be able to do, but I also want to be able to find out some facts to be able to help us for the future on this. The Lawrence Liverour National Laboratory in May of 2020 put out a classified document that has only been recently unclassified on this that had this statement. We assess all the necessary conditions for an accidental release of a laboratory modified corona virus specifically a corona virus adapted to recognize human cell receptors were present at the Chinese Wuan Institute of Urology in mid to late 2019. Now, the the question that I had for you is this is May the 27th of 2020. Uh this is the report that most people will see is this. I I have I have clearance. I serve on the intelligence committee. I've actually read this complete document unredacted. My concern is were you given the ability to see this document unredacted based on your position? Were you able to see this and to be able to get this information? I could I could see it and I know what's here. Everybody else just has their conclusion at the beginning of it, not this. My question to you was going to be did you have access because it's important for the future that people in your position do have access to this kind of information and insight. Is there any way you could answer that question? Were you able to give access to this data? >> On the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. Imagine being a mom trying to protect their kids or an expectant mother trying to figure out what to do. Every three weeks, a doctor tells you a new set of guidance on a vaccine. The haphazard information you released and pushed on the American people with little research is appalling and why there is so little there's there so much distrust in our institutions today. That trust is crucial to public health and you more than any person or event in my lifetime have destroyed that trust for millions of Americans. You lied to hundreds of millions of people amount amid the worst public health crisis in a century. You failed to follow your own guidance. You forced people to watch their loved ones die alone over the phone. It's disgusting. Destroyed the federal government's credibility when it comes to public health. We have entire generations of Americans who rightfully so do not trust our institution to keep people safe because of you. This has destroyed decades of progress and lifetimes of work because you want to fuel your own ego and be the center of attention. What would you do differently knowing what you know today? Dr. Fouchy. >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the Constitution. >> All right, Greg, what do you got? >> Yeah, you know what? I would say he's bored out of his skull, except remember he's 85 and I think sometimes it's easy for people to be pretty stoic. However, in this video, I think there's actually something going on. There's some Again, I don't know that he g gives a about people. I can't say that by looking at it. But I do see when the guy starts to assault that assault around destroyed trust, his chin drops to protect his throat. That's a pride issue. Maybe it's a big deal if you spent your whole life in that business. And his brow tips rise up in the middle, which I equate with sorrow. Does that mean he has any sorrow for what happened? No, it doesn't. But it could mean that he has sorrow for that attack or that he's feeling personally assaulted by it. He's also does a heavy swallow, more disdain. And then when he says because of you, that chin drops again. We usually associate a chin drop with protection, but I don't see shame. I don't see a chin boss involved. I don't see anything in his brow. Just that little peak in his in his inward inner brow tips, but his voice is weaker in the declaration of the fifth this time. Sounds a lot less boisterous. Maybe it this stuff just adds up and takes its impact cuz this thing is not this is a threehour um whatever you want to call inquiry that we're watching here. This is not 20 minutes. This is three hours of being sitting there and being told you did this and you did this and you did this and not being able to say I didn't and and and so I think it is having an impact or the impact is because of him feeling guilty for anything. I don't think that's it but I do think it is having an impact on Scott. What do you got? uh his blink rate is probably at the highest it's been so far. Especially there at the beginning, it gets there other parts of this where it is higher because I've seen those things, but in these sections of videos we're watching, this is the highest it's been so far. Then it settles down, then it starts up again. This lets us know that stress, whatever it's from, is rising again. Now, I'm going to introduce a name for a behavior that I've noticed a bunch of times, and we've actually talked about in here just for a second. We have nobody's named it yet, but I've got a name for it. And it's those rapid involuntary jerky movements of the head or body. And it resembles a chicken. And a chicken makes those little those quick little moves. You know, when it moves, it moves its head really quickly. >> We're seeing that in here. It's because it brain when there's a syninnapse, it just fires off and the movement happens. There's no its brain is so small, it doesn't have enough um >> chicken or vouch. [clears throat] So yeah, the head doesn't move smoothly like ours because we have a huge brain. It moves really quickly because it's so the brain is so small. So when a synapse fires synapse fires off, the head just jerks really quick or the arms or the feet or the legs or whatever. So I'm going to call this the chicken synapse. So we see those little behaviors where somebody just starts moving around for no reason really quickly. I'm going to call that I'm going to coin that today. Whatever the date is, the chicken synapse. >> Tie Hatty Beast to it somewhere. The Hatty Beast. >> I'm working on that. I'm working on that. by the get get by the website. >> You may need to keep up the day job if you think that one's going to make you money. >> Yeah, [laughter] I better get on the URL right now, man. >> And he got rich out of the chicken. >> It's the hot chicken snap. [laughter] >> Money rain down on it by We haven't seen him since. >> We do make those movements when you get the really hot at Hatty Bees. They call it shut the clock up. >> That's too hot for me. I can't eat that one. That's like the hot. So anyway, so that's what I'm gonna I'm gonna stop mine there because I want to make sure that I get that that name across if anybody if anybody wants to use it, feel free. We'll throw that in the Z, guys. So >> you're getting paid by Hattie Bees for this. I want I want a quarter. [laughter] >> I'll get you a gift card. >> Thank you. >> The hot chicken snap. >> Yeah. All right, Mark. What do you got? >> Uh what have I got? Um yeah. Okay, here's here's a theory. I wouldn't I wouldn't die on this hill. Uh but I'll just put it forward uh just as an idea. It may be disassociation. That might may be why nothing's happening. You know, he's um he's getting so beaten up here. It's like, okay, I'm just going to have to let it wash over me and I'm just going to send my spirit elsewhere. As I say, I wouldn't die on that hill, but it's a possib it's a possibility. Um what do I see here? Look, this is a lot of judgment from the senator here. Again, I I don't know. I'm not going to say whether the judgment is right or wrong, but it is. It's judgment. uh trust, lies, failure, force, disgusting, destroying credibility because of you, ego, center of attention. So, it's a great um judgment and drama being set up there. You know, just from personal point of view, I I find it ironic that you've got a modern politician, you know, accusing somebody of losing trust. Hasn't rid the room of modern politicians, clearly. [laughter] and that the politicians were there first before anybody else managed to lose lose trust. Whatever side they're on, they've been losing trust with with the public for a long long time. So, I so I love the the the irony of of that uh personally. But yeah, again, just a a barrage of judgment. No questions really. Well, other than what at the end of this barrage, what would have you done differently? It's like he can't answer that question. And you just absolutely slapped him around. And and I get your point, Chase. You know, maybe [snorts] maybe the the inquirer at this point is thinking, "Yeah, I'll just slap him around. Slap him around. Chuck in a question." And he'll explode and go, "Damn you all. I did it. I did it because we're wanting to control universe." >> You know, >> absolute power. And maybe they're hoping for that that moment because it is a bit of a a witch hunt. And there's probably a bunch of witches involved, but they've got one. Uh, and sure, you know, if you find a witch, I'm not opposed to you burning, you know, him or him. Could be a man. >> So, so, uh, sorry to all the witches um, out out there. Um, but it does seem like you've only got one in the room at the moment, and you're just punching that one. Not that they maybe shouldn't be punched, but again, I just look at it and go, how is this helping the situation from both sides? it doesn't help. So, one of the reasons for um a a presidential pardon is actually that it allows you to give evidence in these situations is that you can go, hey, listen, I'm just going to tell you what went on because I it would do me no damage other than in the court of public opinion, but you can't incarcerate me for this. So actually it's a bene a pardon is a benefit to the public because in an inquiry somebody pardoned can go I'll tell you exactly what went uh what went on here to get a pardon you have to accept that pardon which means you would accept that you will give evidence on it. So therefore, to my understanding, there is a possibility that he can be held in contempt on this and we may get him back under contempt and he may be be forced to answer under the force of of contempt. So interesting um that that this this this vehicle of the pardon is actually meant to do the public some service and nothing in this situation here from my point of view. I'm not American citizen, so doesn't really affect me. But if I were an American citizen, I would be going, "What the hell good is any of this doing me right now?" Other than it's entertaining, and we have a a show to do on it. Scott, what do you got on this one? >> I think I already went, didn't I? >> Oh, yeah. Sorry. Chase, what do you got? >> Yeah, I'll just go last again. >> See how it feels. >> It's crippling. >> Crippling. If Greg, if it is stoicism that's kind of evolved with age, he didn't do it a couple years ago, the last time he testified, which could have evolved, and I'm not saying that didn't evolve in the last few years, and just getting beaten down. If you look at his journals, he thrives. He thrives on the opinions of other people. So, the beatdown that he's received over the last few years has made him just say, "I don't g anymore. I just don't." >> So, that's possible. And Mark, if it is dissociation from everything that's going on, I don't see evidence that he cared initially. >> Sure. >> Um, about anybody may I may be wrong. If I am, let me know in the comments. >> Uh, but I just don't see a lot of visible signs. But to quote someone who worked with him, someone familiar with Anthony Fouchy, this guy's name is Brett Grior, Gerio, I'm not sure, MD. He's a physician. He's a former colleague uh on the White House uh COVID task force. And he said after he read the diary, he said he was quote shocked by his unbashed narcissism, worried worrying about his fame when all of us were worrying about 1,000 or 2,000 people dying the next day. And he says it's really kind of sickening. Uh, so that's a person that was actually familiar. Uh, direct quote that I think is pretty recent. That's all I got. >> You know, Chase, that ties back to why he would have disdain for the situation if he can't defend himself and make himself look better. >> Mhm. >> That the disdain that we're seeing in constantly in his face. >> I think we've got some evidence coming up further to what you're saying there, Chase, as well. >> Mark, I think the good part of the reason it is good they do this is because it's cathartic. I know. I feel a lot better after seeing this. I'm mad at that guy. >> They've been doing this since ancient Rome. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's Greek theater. It's Greek theater. >> If you felt better about this one, wait till Holly lights into him. >> Greek theater and the goat song will come soon. It's uh >> Imagine being a mom trying to protect their kids or an expectant mother trying to figure out what to do. Every 3 weeks, a doctor tells you a new set of guidance on a vaccine. The haphazard information you released and pushed on the American people with little research is appalling and why there is so little there's there so much distrust in our institutions today. That trust is crucial to public health and you more than any person or event in my lifetime have destroyed that trust for millions of Americans. You lied to hundreds of millions of people amount amid the worst public health crisis in a century. You failed to follow your own guidance. You force people to watch their loved ones die alone over the phone. It's disgusting. Destroyed the federal government's credibility when it comes to public health. We have entire generations of Americans who rightfully so do not trust our institution to keep people safe because of you. This has destroyed decades of progress and lifetimes of work because you want to fuel your own ego and be the center of attention. What would you do differently knowing what you know today? Dr. Fouchi, >> on the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> On the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> What color is the carpet in front of you? >> On the advice of council, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> Let's just get one thing straight. You don't have any rights under the fifth amendment because you've been pardoned as you very well know as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more. Brown versus Walker 1896. When he has been pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that your lawyer sitting behind you now, shifting nervously in their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt. Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people. But I think I know why you're doing it. It's because you don't want to answer questions. It's because you did all kinds of terrible things. It's because during the pandemic, you got rich, didn't you? You got rich while people were dying. Hundreds of thousands of Americans, over a million in the end. And you were getting rich. And not only were you doing that, you were using federal employees with taxpayer money to apply for and solicit cash prizes for you personally. cash prizes totaling over a million dollars. You did all of that during the pandemic, didn't you? That's a question. >> On the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> All right, Greg, what do you got? >> So, what Holly's doing here that you don't see in the entire video is he makes him answer a bunch of questions like, "What color is the tie you're wearing? What color are your glasses? How strong?" He's asking him a bunch of stuff just to make him say the fifth over and over and over and probably a little bit of trying to stumble him up. If he says it's green, he'll go, "Okay, you broke your vow of silence. Here we go." That's what my guess is. But he's also making him work. He's going to make him stumble. And you know, he realizes if he does that, there'll be some power to it >> on that attack of no when he's told you can't claim the fifth because you took a pardon. Listen to that inhale breath. This is the Fouchy we would expect. He's ready to say something. And then he does a threat check and he eye locks and he touches his face. I think anything we're seeing this guy, don't don't mistake I think he's feeling compassion for anybody. That's not at all what I think. I think what he's feeling is the pressure rise and after this many attacks and Holly's known for being pretty damned aggressive in these earrings. So I think he knows it's coming. And if you don't think it's getting to him, Mark, you call it venting. >> Yeah. >> Watch him loosen his collar like, "Oh I need a break here. Somebody give me a break." And then watch, look how his body has started to shrink. The sides of his mouth are down in sadness and he's his brow is higher up than we've seen it to now. There's also a real blink ring rate increase when he mentions you got rich in the process. And this is the first time we see him stack his arms and put his fingers inside his cuffs and start to self-comfort. that adapter where he's le releasing nervous energy and rubbing his skin is reliefing releasing hormones into his system to calm him. And watch how much faster Scott, you're going to have something to do with the hot chicken scramble here in a minute because watch how fast he's moving his head now compared to what he was doing before. >> Holly's under this guy's skin. And we also see for the first time ever, he's looked away before, but he's been looking at the table. He's doing a thousand yard stairs. He looks down one of these times. There is no eye contact with any device. It's not focused. His eyes are out of focus, which we know means the person's gone internal. This is getting under his skin, and I think it really is starting to hit him. Look at those brow tips rising. Again, doesn't mean he's feeling compassion for any person. Simply means you're under his skin. You're raising his fight or flight. You're getting through to his psyche and starting to affect him. Uh Chase, what do you got? >> Yeah, I totally agree. Stress markers are exactly what he said they are. Uh but while what what what's being exposed here and what's being exposed overall is like while everybody was going through the pandemic, his diary shows just a relentless tracking of personal glory. Like getting announced the sexiest man alive or having people help him with petitions for that. This is real. >> The sexiest man alive. >> Yes, sir. Yes. Oh [laughter] man. >> Okay. Now he just lost a whole bunch of >> and it's there were petitions for this that he was helping with people ma he logged people making donuts with his face on them. Uh he logged all the admiration that he received from uh celebrities. All this stuff was during all this. This was what was important to him. And it's one data point, right? Maybe he's the best guy in the world. I doubt it. Um, but it's it's a very strong data point when you compare it with everything else that people that have worked with him, people familiar with the matter uh have have spoken about. Mark, what do you got? >> Yeah, look, it's all getting a bit farical and absurd now. There's something from my point of view a little annoyingly self-satisfied about the senator and that he that he's, you know, done this carpet routine. I get Yeah, I get that there's my understanding is and it may be a wrong understanding. So, you know, put down in the comments below um uh how I may have this right or have this wrong, but you either take the fifth or you don't take the fifth. You can't have it both ways. And so, I think you're right, Greg. There may be a possibility if I can get him to say, you know, be be annoyed by the whole carpet routine and go, "Yeah, it's it's it's patent. Actually, it's not one color. actually he's broken his fifth and now he's definitely in contempt. So that's it's a possibility. I don't I I don't know. But look, here's what I do know and I think it points towards what you're saying here, Chase, is that when the frame that's being given to him here of contempt, profitering, and corruption is put forward, they're they're my words, not the senators. But I think essentially that's the way the senator is framing it. Look, you're contemptuous of the situation, the bigger situation, the you're contemptuous of the public. You are profitering out of this misery and essentially you are corrupt. And that's the piece about going and getting prizes um uh on on the people's budget essentially. um that does seem to have an effect on him. And I think you're right. It's not an effect of like, oh, I'm really sorry for that. Um I think it it's an effect of him not liking being framed in that way. Well, who would I mean, who's nobody's out to get framed in that way, but it hits a nerve for him. This idea of contempt, he's contemptuous, he's prophetering, and he's corrupt. Hits a a nerve for him. And I think that is interesting because ultimately if you weren't, you might just go that's just laughable. That's just, you know, it's laughable. You would you you might be able to shrug that off. However, being punched around the room and maybe you can't shrug it off. Uh Scott, what do you got on this one? >> Is there something to the the uh asking questions that have nothing to do with anything? And if he doesn't answer those questions, since he's not uh in charge, >> I'd ask people to put it in the notes down below. That's my guess because he's beating the living crap out of him with questions that are non-pertinent. >> Yeah. Yeah. If he says if he says the carpet is green, he's broken his fifth amendment. >> Well, I I think you can take >> I don't know. I don't know. >> I think you can take it for each question. You don't have to take it for for when you say it once, it doesn't mean you have to do the whole thing. I think it's for each question. I think there's a reason that he's asking those questions just to kind of stick it up his high end. Number two, but number one, if you do answer a question that has nothing to do with your with whatever you're you're in trouble for, I think you get in trouble. Isn't that right? >> There is there is a a case in in court at the moment or there's a president that says you can't do both in this particular situation. Okay? or they has been a debate in this in in in one committee to say hang on this person over here in this situation they were they weren't allowed to you know give answers to one thing and answers to another thing they they were they were prosecuted on doing both is that in America or in Canada that's in America >> there's no fifth there's no fifth in America no fifth in yes there is a president I believe that you can't have it both ways in a in a Senate hearing. >> With all the lawyers we know, you think we'd be able to get that answered fairly quick. Somebody Hey, Chase, call. >> Well, I think getting it answered quickly, I think it's there is there is one court that has answered that. So, one judge has answered that. So, there's a president, but it doesn't mean it would stand for him. >> You'd have to you'd have to take it. You have to tell it to the judge. >> See what Barnes >> I think there's also a slippery slope. >> There's also a slippery slope. If you answer one question, then I'll ask you another ancillary question that might get you up against it fairly quickly. >> Yeah. Well, the slippery slope is not trusting the the the presidential pardon. That's the if a presidential pardon is worth nothing, then then every everybody a president has p pardoned is now in trouble. >> And Holly's going to crawl him in just a minute with that very thing. That's a good piece. We'll get to see response to that. Well, I think the funniest part about this is when he asks him about the carpet, before he answers, Fouchy actually looks looks [laughter] down there before he starts answering. So, I think >> that means he's paying attention at least. >> Yeah. Yeah, you heard the question. >> And then when he first when he first lays into him, we see like 14 different cues fire off there in the next like 30 seconds to a minute. And he know he knows everything that's being said about him is true. And he's agreed that he won't say anything to defend himself like we were talking about before. And I think that's what's making all these things happen because he can't sit still. They're like there there's a ton of them in there. We could we could sit here and microscope it and name off, you know, 40 of them. But we're seeing the chicken synapse. We're seeing a high blink rate, turtling, another animal. >> Chicken salad. >> He's moving back. We're seeing gaze aversion, request for approval, adapting by scratching his face. He takes deep breaths. His his breath rate uh changes and it actually gets tighter. So they get smaller and quicker. Then he takes these really deep breaths. we see more chicken synapses and he's pulling on his collar. He's he's venting trying to get cooled off in there. Um then he's he does he does his fingers up under his shirt sleeve. He does that several times throughout the I watched the whole thing. So he does this several times through throughout the the hearing. So that's and an odd thing is he starts scratching. Sometimes he'll put him up in there and just let him lay in there and sometimes he'll start then he lets his pinky go way down and then it'll jiggle a little bit. It's really odd what he's doing up in there. So, >> but I think but I think if we if we microscope this you we come up with 20 or 30 because he he can't this cat can't sit still with that. Did you get somebody chase? [laughter] >> I think it's >> All right. So, I got Rich. >> Oh, no. You >> wait. Say it again. You froze up. >> Hey guys. Hey Rich. >> I have Rich Baris on. >> Hey Rich. >> Yeah, I'm you guys. How you doing? >> All right. So Rich, we're doing an analysis of the Fouchy hearing right now. >> So we have this legal thing. We can't figure it out. If someone pleads the fifth, are they like locked into the fifth or can they answer some basic ass questions like what did you eat for lunch? >> Hold it close to the microphone real quick. >> That's you know that's I I wish I could answer that question. Um I I always thought that if you plead the fifth and then let's say you answer like Senator Hley's question, what color is your tie? what color is the the rug in front of you and you know in the floor in front of you. I thought that meant that uh you you you gave it up that you forfeited it. I also thought and I asked Barnes this and he just didn't get back to me but I also thought that you could not give an opening statement the way that he did if you plead the fifth and apparently he did. I [clears throat] mean I could be wrong about that but let me let me just look it up real quick. Yeah, because at the beginning he did read he did read a whole bunch of stuff and he said, "I'm taking the fit." >> Mostly he went back at Rand Paul. >> Rich, are you okay with this audio being on YouTube? >> Oh, absolutely. >> Okay. >> Hey, Rich. >> Good to see >> Good to see you this weekend, Rich by the way. >> Yeah, that was >> it was great to see you guys. Like I, you know, last year I wasn't able to stay that long, so it was like one of the things, man, I wish I had a chance to stay and hang out with those guys longer. Yes. >> Your wife is the sweetest thing. She was so nice. >> She's a sweetheart. >> Yes. She loves you guys. She's She really does. >> Hey, there she is. Uh hey, >> she she is very very >> interested in what you guys do, you know, and uh and uses it and apply like like applies it like constantly is observing uh because let's face it, you know, there's a lot of good people in this space and there's a lot of well in politics a lot of dishonest people. It's very useful. >> Protect the ones I >> Yeah, >> that's my protective ones I love. >> Protective woman. >> There you go. Good for you. Awesome. Anyway, sorry. I didn't mean to interrupt. >> No, that's all right. You know, I just I'm I'm actually reading here and it I mean, this looks to me like I'm right. You can't selectively answer. So, you know, he goes back at Rand Paul. >> Mhm. >> You can't do that. >> You can't do it. You have to just sit there like an idiot. I invoke the fifth. I invoke the fifth. Um, >> right. But unless you did boot, >> this would not apply in a trial because you can answer some questions, but if something implicates you, you can plead a fifth in a trial separately, >> right? >> Okay. >> Like during a depo. >> Okay. Yeah. I just I literally looked up about Congress. >> Yeah, I'm right. Yeah, I'm right. Burnham and >> Gar and that's what counts at this point. >> Well, that makes sense. You can vote the fifth amendment to refuse to answer questions that may incriminate you. But doing so means you cannot selectively answer questions or provide an opening statement that could lead to self-inccrimination. Also maybe that's the maybe that's what they think is the loophole could that could lead the right is designed to protect individ etc etc. Um you know to protect individuals from being compelled to testify against themselves. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I mean that's the obvious. >> Thanks Rich. That's helpful. We're just negotiating whether whether Holly was just trying to beat him up and make him say the fifth 50 times or he's trying to trick him. So maybe it's both. >> Yeah, >> he was the AG in Missouri. Remember that. You know, he was a in that state. So yeah, no problem guys. Glad to help. >> Thanks, man. See you later. >> See you later. >> Bye. >> Bye. I love them. She's sweet. [laughter] >> On the advice of council, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> What color is the carpet in front of you? >> On the advice of council, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> Let's just get one thing straight. You don't have any rights under the fifth amendment because you've been pardoned. As you very well know, as the Supreme Court has been clear for a century and more, Brown versus Walker, 1896, when he has been pardoned, he may not stand upon his privilege. You know that. Your lawyers sitting behind you now, shifting nervously in their chairs. They know it. This isn't about the Constitution. This isn't about the law. This is about contempt. Contempt for this body and contempt for the American people. But I think I know why you're doing it. It's because you don't want to answer questions. It's because you did all kinds of terrible things. It's because during the pandemic, you got rich, didn't you? You got rich while people were dying. Hundreds of thousands of Americans, over a million in the end. And you were getting rich. And not only were you doing that, you were using federal employees with taxpayer money to apply for and solicit cash prizes for you personally. Cash prizes totaling over a million dollar. You did all of that during the pandemic, didn't you? That's a question. >> On the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the Constitution. >> You applied for and received at least eight other federal cash prizes on federal time using federal employees and federal resources. Here they are over my shoulder. Besides the Dan David Award, you've got the Partnership for Public Service. You've got the Add Prize. You've got the Smithsonian Award. You've got the National Academy of Medicine's Award. You got the CDC Foundation. In fact, you turned your staff into a full-time application machine. You actually wrote to people and said, "Do you think maybe I'd qualify?" And you got cash for all of this. And it wasn't just one or two employees, was it? In fact, you use eight separate federal employees on federal time using federal resources to solicit cash awards. Isn't that true? On the advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> Here they are, right over my shoulder. Here's all of them. The people that you use, federal employees, so that you could go and get cash money. And the most hilarious part is that you weren't content to even draon them into applying for all of these cash awards. You then had them go out to the ethics agencies and ethics watchd dogs and demand that you be able to get the money. That's right. We've got it in your emails. Your staff and employees on federal time using federal resources being paid with federal dollars are soliciting cash for you. And then they're turning around and saying to the agency, "We don't want just an answer. We want to get to yes." Because Fouchy wants the money. He wants it. We want to get to yes. And yes takes time. This is your chief of staff again using federal email to pressure the AY's own ethics people so that you could get money so that you could get rich. And it violated the law, didn't it, Dr. Fouchy? Didn't it? It violated the law, didn't it? >> That a question. >> It is a question. You can answer. Go ahead. On the advice of council, I respectfully decline to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> All right, Chase, what do you got? >> This is where you see the most embarrassment on the face. I think this my opinion just embarrassment, shame, uh, a lot of concealment with the digits kind of going into the sleeves here, a lack of eye contact. And so if you just take the previous whatever five videos as a baseline, this is a a big deviation from that baseline. U we're seeing a lot of embarrassment here. There's still no uh huge clusters of anything. But I want to quote from another person familiar with the matter here and his name is Rick Fairhurst MD PhD who worked for 17 years at NI Aid. He called Fouchy quote by far the most narcissistic person I've met in my 60 years of life. So he made note in his statement about walls in his office and stuff covered in photos of himself with dignitaries uh and just a lot of other self-focused behaviors like that which is crazy unusual. I think that's unusual for a human. Um that's all I got. Uh Mark, what do you got? >> Yeah. So look, I'm going to This doesn't happen often, but I'm going to disagree with you here, Chase, and go the exact opposite. It could be shame or absolutely zero shame around around this because is this unordinary for a human being? I think in his world of awards of academia and awards, there is no shame in lobbying for prizes because that's how prizes are given out. That's just the way it's it's done. You send you don't you don't just get awarded stuff. You lobby for it and you go get it. That's your job academically to go get the money. That's >> it's not your job to use government employees, government research. >> That's right. So, you're absolutely right on on on that. But I still think he has no shame about that. He's not made the transition from from uh academia to government where you're absolutely right is misappropriation of that. But I don't think his mind has made that jump. I think he still feels it is his right and his job and his title to go and get the money and the prizes for himself. And so it in my mind and it could be, you know, you projecting on him or me projecting on him and maybe we're both wrong about this or maybe we're but you know, >> but in my mind I think he has no shame about this and I think he's going, you know what, this is what I do. This is the way the world works. This is this is this is absolutely the way it should be done. You're absolutely right, Chase. It's m it's absolute if if if that's what was happening and it seems there's evidence that that's what was happening. It's absolutely misappropriation of the of the people's money. But in my mind, >> he's not >> he's not bothered. He's not bothered about that at all. And I think there's a sense of entitlement to that. Um so, uh uh Scott, what do you got on this one? >> Let me ask you something, Mark. >> Yeah. >> When you There's the word private. >> Private. >> When I want something that's to be private, I want my what? Privacy. >> Okay. So, you all say privacy instead of privacy. >> Yeah. Privacy. >> Okay. >> But you don't say private. Don't say private. Private would be uh that's a hedge. That's a type of hedge. >> Yeah. >> Why is it privacy instead of privacy? >> You know what? Some questions are better left unanswered because they would [laughter] they would destroy the fabric of the universe. >> Okay. >> They invented the word. They get to call it whatever the hell they want. >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, for example, you know, a a um uh a toilet is a is called a privy, not a privy. >> Ah, >> privy. >> Okay. >> Yeah. There's the privy council to the to the the monarch, which is the monarch's private council, but it's not called his privy >> the bathroom council. >> His privy council. Yeah. They don't hang around. >> They did have that. >> How you getting on in there? that tissue. >> The king did have that, remember? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Huh. Okay. Anyway, so since we're seeing pretty much the same stuff we've been seeing, the only thing that pops out to me more than usual we've seen are the expressions that I'm under the impression are shame because he's got we see shame in there four or five times throughout that thing. Like heavy. But it but then again when you think of the personality type we may be dealing with it could it maybe it isn't shame. So I'm kind I' I got to look into this some more but I'm I'm still riding that line about whether he's we're dealing with psychopathy or not. I mean we're talking about a high-end narcissist here. A clinical narcissist. And with the things he's done, the way he's reacting to these things and the way he's not reacting to these things when he should. That's not that's not normal. That's not right. That's something's not right here about that. Greg, what do you got? >> I think I see contained pissed off is what I think I see. Downright eye cast. We know that when people are looking down to their right is typically associated with emotion. He shows disdain more than one time. That withdraw the sides of the mouth. That could be the situation. I'm not allowed to say anything and I'm doing what I can. I think he's defeated. I think he's back painted back into a corner. And to your points, I don't think it has anything to do with compassion or any of that, but his chin drops. That's defeat. You can be defeated and drop your chin just as much as you can shame or grief. Usually, if there's shame, your chin engages. We don't see that. We just see his chin down. And we see avoiding eye contact until Holly says Fouchy wants the money. He does a really rapid, what you call it, chicken synapse. move his head and eye lock real quickly doing the the Hattiebe shuffle. And then there's a as soon as he does that, you can see he just wants to lash out, but he can't do it. So, what does he do? Pushes his hands back in his sleeves and starts adapting. That to me looks like contained pissed off. That doesn't look like any compassion or anything else. I think if he had the ability and thought he could get, he probably would have gone back at him pretty hard. My opinion. >> All right. How close to the airport are you, Greg? >> A long way. That's Sunset Strip. Somebody driving down in a car driving. I think it was a Mustang. Really loud. >> Dang. It sound like a plane from over here. >> It did. >> No, it was it was a Mustang. As Mustang drivers often will, and somebody will give me some hate for this. They have to rev up as they cruise along just to let you know they're driving a Mustang. >> Yeah, those are cool. >> No hate there. >> At least two people have now unsubscribed, Greg. Yeah, because of the two guys that watch our channel, they they're out now. [laughter] >> You applied for and received at least eight other federal cash prizes on federal time using federal employees and federal resources. Here they are over my shoulder. Besides the DanDavid award, you've got the Partnership for Public Service. You've got the Add Prize. You've got the Smithsonian Award. You've got the National Academy of Medicine Award. You got the CDC Foundation. In fact, you turned your staff into a full-time application machine. You actually wrote to people and said, "Do you think maybe I'd qualify and you got cash for all of this?" And it wasn't just one or two employees, was it? In fact, you use eight separate federal employees on federal time using federal resources to solicit cash awards. Isn't that true? On the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> Here they are right over my shoulder. Here's all of them. The people that you use federal employees so that you could go and get cash money. And the most hilarious part is that you weren't content to even draon them into applying for all of these cash awards. You then had them go out to the ethics agencies and ethics watchd dogs and demand that you be able to get the money. That's right. We've got it in your emails. Your staff and employees on federal time using federal resources being paid with federal dollars are soliciting cash for you. And then they're turning around and saying to the agency, "We don't want just an answer. We want to get to yes." Because Fouchy wants the money. He wants it. We want to get to yes. And yes takes time. This is your chief of staff again using federal email to pressure the AY's own ethics people so that you could get money, so that you could get rich. And it violated the law, didn't it, Dr. Fouchy? Didn't it? It violated the law, didn't it? >> That a question. >> It is a question. You can answer. Go ahead. On the advice of council, I respectfully declined to answer based upon my rights under the fifth amendment to the constitution. >> Well, I've seen some very interesting video today. Mark, how are things looking to you about this? >> Yeah, it's good. It's a good one, isn't it? You know, I'm I'm contemptuous of the actual um hearing, not of the Senate and Senate hearings, but I'm contemptuous of of of how this has been, you know, how this has gone. And he's not answering anything. And I understand some of the reasons why and I understand why they're kind of lambasting him and it doesn't really have a great effect at giving the public any information that they would want other than you know to your point Scott you know there's a drama to watch and it may be a little bit cathartic and and you know the the the head gets lpped off the goat and you know you dance around going wasn't that a lot of fun um but I don't know whether it answers the issues that people who lost loved ones and you know really really have uh but maybe it's better than nothing at all and maybe something better will come out of it. Maybe a contempt and Andy's back in there again and we'll hear more and we'll hear more from other people. Uh Chase, what do what do you think? >> Yeah, I didn't write any notes down or anything, but uh this is if if you're thinking this is just Fouchy, this is just like oh he's a bad guy. This is the government that gave you the effing food pyramid. >> So, >> I mean, it's it's systemic. Uh it's it's not just one one It's it's a systemic thing. It's one guy probably selfish, narcissistic. Uh which is like if you're in Washington DC, almost a prerequisite if you're in politics. Um yeah, I think uh it looks like some crazy stuff is going on. If you just look at the the places where his stress spikes up, that's indicative of of a pretty solid pattern in my opinion. Greg, >> yeah, a couple of things. I'm reminded of Ronald Reagan saying, "I'm from the government. I'm here to help." Are some of the most terrifying words on earth. Never trust, you know, you guys know how much I trust government. And people say, "You served it." That's why I trust it so little is because I've had all kinds of stuff injected in my body with no control. I was a soldier for a long time. So, there's that part. What I like about this is this is an exercise in taking a narcissistic individual who would typically have an answer for everything and push his way and forcing him to shut up and seeing what happens to his body language. What we didn't see, we saw some sorrow a couple of times, probably related to the fact he can't say anything and a lot of disdain, but did we didn't see any grief. We didn't see watching people die through on the on cell phone, this happening, this happening. We saw a fair amount of contempt around people missing the death of their family, around missing this and missing that and children. It didn't look like he really cared. And the worst thing you can possibly do when you're being attacked with facts about what happened is appear to not care. So they may have won. Scott, what do you got? >> Yeah, this this was cathartic for me. makes me feel better when I see somebody doing him that way when he can't do anything back because he did something to a lot of people and they couldn't do anything back and still can't. So I think that for me personally it makes me feel better seeing them [laughter] [clears throat] seeing him get this like this. So for me it is it is a catharsis. It is cathartic. I I really it made me feel good to see these guys talking to him that way. Horrible as it may be and I know I'll get it in the comments which means I have to come in there. I won't be able to take the fifth anymore. I'll have to take whatever punishment I get. But u anyway, so I liked it. All right, I think this is another good fellas and we'll see you next time. >> The behavior panel. >> You know, I never do the first pull in. >> I know. That's why I overdo it. [music] Wow. [music] Heat.