Video summary
David Cornish from Cornish Consultancy opens his presentation by reflecting on the enduring nature of sound agricultural investing principles, noting that while technology has evolved significantly over the last twenty-seven years, the core criteria for a successful investment remain unchanged. He warns investors against being distracted by fleeting trends and fads, which often lead to disastrous financial outcomes. His primary advice is straightforward: conduct thorough due diligence before committing capital; avoid any opportunity promising double-digit annual returns without credible backing; and steer clear of claims that cannot be supported by independent evidence. Despite the prevalence of scams causing billions in losses over recent decades, Cornish emphasizes that a disciplined approach can help investors navigate these pitfalls effectively.
A significant portion of his talk is dedicated to debunking popular narratives suggesting that global food supplies are running out due to population growth and land scarcity. He cites historical doomsayers from as early as the 18th century who predicted mass starvation, contrasting their dire forecasts with actual data showing a steady decline in global hunger rates since 2009. Cornish points out that current crop stocks are at record levels relative to usage, real commodity prices have merely kept pace with inflation rather than skyrocketing, and population growth is actually slowing down. He argues that the idea of agriculture being an inevitable "coal mine" due to rising demand is a fallacy driven by futurists rather than factual evidence from organizations like the FAO or World Bank.
Cornish stresses that in agricultural investing, the people you partner with are far more critical than the specific commodity chosen for investment. He identifies three archetypes of investors and promoters to avoid: the "agri-cowboy" who offers high-level promises but lacks operational local knowledge; the "snake oil salesman" driven by passion rather than data; and the "used car salesman" focused solely on closing deals regardless of viability. A key indicator of a trustworthy partner is having "skin in the game," meaning they have their own equity at risk alongside investors, which aligns interests and mitigates fraud. He also highlights that larger corporate operations often suffer from diseconomies of scale where administrative costs outweigh benefits, whereas family farms or joint ventures with local families tend to deliver superior returns due to lower overheads and better adaptability.
Ultimately, Cornish concludes that while agriculture can offer competitive returns comparable to other asset classes like shares or property, success depends on realistic expectations regarding price fluctuations and operational flexibility. He notes that prices will eventually revert to the mean, meaning high-cost operations will struggle in the long run compared to efficient ones. Furthermore, he underscores the importance of having viable exit strategies, warning that selling large farming properties can take years due to limited market demand for oversized assets. By avoiding ticket clippers and focusing on cost efficiency, local knowledge, and genuine partnerships with families who have a stake in the outcome, investors can achieve sustainable profits without needing to chase unrealistic hype or guaranteed windfalls.
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27 years ago i attended my first aber
outlook conference and have been lucky
to attend several since
while much has changed especially when
it comes to technology much has stayed
the same in fact i would argue
that what makes a good agricultural
investment then still makes a good
invest agricultural investment today
however as was the case then is it easy
to get sidetracked
by fads and trends which often result in
disastrous outcomes for the investor
as such what i hope today is to discuss
how to avoid many of these issues
the problem when given a topic like this
is not what to discuss
or what to leave out
however for those who need to catch up
on some sleep over the next 15 minutes
as i appreciate it's after lunch
here are the main messages one do your
homework
two
if they're offering double digit high
returns year on year then avoid
and three
if they claim if their claims can't be
credibly
backed up with true independent
evidence avoid like the plague
not hard is it
yet for some reasons we have seen
billions i'm talking about billions lost
in agricultural investment
i i write scams here maybe that's been a
bit rough over the last couple of
decades but maybe not
for those who don't need to catch up on
the beauty sleep i will now explore this
in a bit more depth and hopefully pass
on some lessons i have learnt on how to
avoid some of the potential hand
grenades
every so often i'll pick up an article
on why agriculture's next best thing and
the argument goes something like this
the main premise is the world is running
out of food it's simple mass
more mouths to feed less country to plow
means demand will outstrip supply ipso
facto this leads to price pressures and
therefore improved returns economics 101
the family farm is a shock duck it can't
keep up with increasing capital
requirements
technology advancements and scale
required to be a profitable business
corporate farming given its ability to
better access capital
and the best expertise money can buy is
better positioned to take agriculture
into the future
its size advantages also means it can
take up positions up and down the supply
chain thereby capturing more of the
profit taken by the middlemen and
therefore ensuring a more profitable
outcome than the family farm will ever
be able to achieve
and finally
given the access to the best expertise
money can buy they have a better
understanding of where markets are going
and therefore can pick winners and
ensuring that investor capital will
outperform the average
what i hope to show with the rest of
this presentation is why most of what i
have just said should be viewed with a
large dose of skepticism
firstly the food is running out of the
world is running out of food since the
18th century it has been predicted the
world will run out of food as thomas
malthus stated in 1798
the power of population is definitely
greater than the power in the earth to
produce substance for man
in 1968 professor paul
hillick heilig sorry if i've got that
wrong wrote the population bomb and
declared that the battle to feed
humanity had been lost and there would
be a major
food shortage in the u.s
in the 1970s as she's quoted saying
hundreds of millions millions are going
to starve to death
again in 1972 the problem was brought to
attention by the club of rome which
stated that
there will be a desperate arable land
shortage before the land year 2000
another of my favorite
doomsayers is a bloke called lester
brown who stated in 1995 that
in addition to raising food prices the
failure to arrest the deterioration of
our basic life support system
could bring economic growth to a halt
dropping incomes and food purchasing
power through the world and then finally
the economist in 2015 made this
statement
in the next 40 years humans will need to
produce more food than they did in the
previous 10 000 put together
but with ruraling cities
gobbling up arable land agricultural
productivity gains decreasing and demand
for biofuels increasing supply is not
keeping up with demand the economist jan
2015.
according to these futurists and don't
you love that term things are cook and
tell a rook if you're if you're a
consumer and looking up if you're a
producer for you food but are they
first as history has shown us contrary
to these projections made by these
eminent people we haven't run out of
food
here are some of the facts
the latest fao
estimates indicated that global
hunger reduction continues
about 795 million people are estimated
to be chronically under nourished in
2014 and 2015.
just one in every nine people this is
216 million fewer and i say fewer than
in 1990-92
in the same period the prevalence of
undernourishment has fallen from
eighteen point six percent to ten point
eight percent
globally fio two thousand fifteen
growth of the world population is almost
in free fall it is expected to decline
to one percent in twenty twenty adding
76 million people to the 7.6 million
people
the lowest rate since the 1950s moreover
more over this trend is yet is set to
continue by 2050 the global population
growth rate will be 0.5 percent bringing
us back to the 17th and 18th century
century figures world bank 2014.
current cropland could be more than
doubled by adding 1.6 billion hectares
without impinging on land needed for
forests protected areas or urbanization
fao 2009 to add to this
the uk institute of mechanical engineers
report global food waste not what not
found that between 30 to 50 percent or
1.2
to 2 billion tons of food produced
around the world never makes it to the
plate the garden in 2013.
so who do we believe
the futurist
or
foa world bank oecd
oecd and let's not forget the uk
institute of mechanical engineers
from my perspective perspective as a
producer it shouldn't matter who you
believe what is important is what's
happening regards to world demand and
supply balances
therefore on farm prices that i receive
as a producer that is important so let's
look at these
if we look at wheat we get the following
picture the graph shows that closing
stocks
have grown over the last three years to
record and i repeat record levels more
importantly if we look at the stock to
use ratio the usda has estimated that
closing stock levels for this financial
year will finish at 33
so what does this mean
relative to other years since 1970
according to a bears that places current
closing stocks in the top 25 percent of
all years
i really question if high closing world
stocks is really conducive to booming
prices
however you may argue that david has
picked one only one commodity to support
his argument fair call
if we accept the premises that
tightening food stocks and improvement
disposal income should lead to
increasing commodity prices and let's
look what happened to real prices for
wheat lamb cattle from 2003
to june 2015 in real terms and by real i
mean i'm removing the effect of
inflation now you can get these numbers
yourself off the grain and graze website
as the slide identifies for most of our
broad acre commodities prices have
roughly kept up with inflation but
certainly not exceeded it to any great
extent
so in my mind this price relationship
would suggest there is no new paradigm
i'm not going to have to unpack anything
and we don't need to start a new
discussion on food okay when it comes to
commodity prices
so hopefully you can now put to one side
that invest in agriculture is some kind
of coal mine due to the fact that it's
inevitable that substantial price rises
are just around the corner now you might
ask why i've spent so much time on that
point that point if if you ever look at
investment ims
time and time again i see
reams of iems that that focus on that
one point
and as i said hopefully if you look at
the facts you'll agree that it's very
questionable i'm certainly not seen as a
producer that we're seeing
food demand
resulting in higher prices for my
commodity
which happens to be lamb
okay
so in my opinion investment in
agriculture does make sense but in
australia
how you make it and more importantly
with whom you make it will be far more
important than what commodity you invest
in so this is where the homework needs
to be done
so the first thing you need to get right
is whom you get into bed with as i
believe this is the biggest
factor that will affect your returns
often agricultural investments are seen
as asset plays in my experience you're
investing in people first
and other assets second
what surprises me is how caught
so-called sophisticated investors and
institutional investors let the guard
down when it comes to agricultural
investments
from my own experience with working with
institutional investors i constantly
came across the three characters that
need to be avoided
being one
the agricowboy
that's new term apparently i googled it
it's not there
two the snake oil salesman
and three
the used car salesman so let's start
with the agri cowboy firstly he
and i use the term he on purpose
oozes confidence usually located in
sydney or melbourne is there nothing
they don't know or people they don't
know
is there nothing they can't do
the problem is once you take the rm
williams boots and hats and scrape off
and scrape away the anecdotes and get
over the helicopter rides the reality
doesn't always live up to the height
what you often find is you're left with
a following one
over burdensome and expensive
administration systems
you have excessive promotional
administration costs making them
uncompetitive except for their tax
advantages
maybe
poor operational management running an
agricultural business and ensuring
optimal financial performance requires
significant management skills as you are
managing a biological system in a risky
environment local knowledge and i repeat
local knowledge and the ability to do
this quickly is essential
very hard to do when you're sitting in
an office a thousand kilometers away
they ignore the fundamentals of an
agricultural investment
the critical issue is that profitability
profitable operations can be identified
by their cost structure
cost efficient producers will make
sustainable long-term profits while
inefficient producers will not in
summary on the evidence available time
and time again these corporate
operations significantly underperform
family farm operations when it comes to
the returns to investors and kate
there's always an exception to the rule
wherever you are
number two the snake oil salesman or
zealot
these are easily identified by the
passion for their their way of farming
they excited to be around and usually
offer an investment which will
change farming practices for the better
plus based on their excel spreadsheet
superior returns again these should be
avoided like the agricowboy because
again once you work through the hype and
media pizzazz there's no substance to
the form of true evidence-based facts
which can be independently verified and
finally the used car salesman
these guys usually don't know much about
egg but boy do they know people who do
what you usually find what you usually
find out about these people is they end
up with the deals that have already done
the circuit they find it hard to
understand the meaning of no and always
out to do a deal the problem is no
amount of wheeling dealing can turn a
pig's ear into a silk purse
you enter these deals at your peril so
what to look for track record
have they made a dollar or they just
talk
evidence-based this is their system
based on fact
not fiction
skin in the game and this is probably
one of my critical points skin and gains
are these fellows just clip it tickers
tickets
ticket clippers or do they actually have
equity at risk
while most of those risks
following risks can be mitigated by the
above mentioned by avoiding the above
mentioned fellows believe the following
are still worth
mentioning just in case
size isn't everything or the curse of
the y chromosome i am being a bit nasty
to blokes aren't i i'm sorry is a loud
i reckon this is a male thing but for
some reason we've been males or want to
be the next sydney kidman
the bigger the better just look at any
excel spreadsheet that's what it will
tell you the problem with this is just
as there are economies of scale there
are also diseconomies of scale as the
graph highlights and i thank david for
letting me borrow this gareth
all farming operations have a tipping
point when it when where profitability
declines this is only magnified in a
corporate model where administration
costs and hr costs magnify this problem
the difference between a top 25 return
and average return can be simpler can
simply be a matter of days
precision and speed can get lost as
operations get too big
show me the numbers this is a big issue
for me the number of iems i have looked
through that spend most of the time
talking about the value of agriculture
investments lesson actually on
performance staggers me
avoid like a plague any investment that
can't justify projected performance with
past performance
value-add versus added costs expertise
and risk what i'm trying to say here is
quite simply is that people will often
induce you into an investment because of
their ability to add value to the
product down the supply chain
in my experience
only about
one in ten of any value-add
project actually works
in most cases what happens is that you
add costs and the return
is not you don't get the return you only
get the risk
projections with straight lines it's
likely slightly amusing me or makes me
cry depending on how i feel when i talk
to fun gatekeepers
that we need fun gatekeepers and they're
the people you have to actually talk to
to actually get to the fund
it's a bizarre world
um
that we need to keep it so when they're
helping you try to talk to a farm what
they'll do is they'll try and brief you
on how you do it what they often say to
me is is you've got to keep it simple or
you will confuse them
okay
so if you present risk and return graphs
like i have here
and what i've got there is oh
i'll get that right there we go
that's here is a co-investment model
that we use which allows a investor and
farmer to work out what their actual
return and risk risk return profiles are
going to be like
um and so it gives them as we were
talking before about a full spectrum of
what their likely
potential returns are and the risks
they're taking on the second one that
annoys me in agriculture is we often use
as averages or mean when we're looking
at things
the second is an example of when i was
looking at
dairy returns
across different areas of australia and
new zealand
as you can see some of those returns are
quite close but if you actually look at
the variability by the box and whisker
graphs you can see quite a bit of
variability and depending on where you
want to go daring
okay i'm very conscious that this talk
might sound like i'm pointing the bone
at others and that i'm perfect
nothing could be further for the truth
and i have made my fair share of stuff
ups however what i've learned that these
from these is that you cannot understand
the importance of the six days of ag
investments and these are simply
due
diligency due diligency that's hard to
say
anyone can buy a farm farming property
but buying the wrong one or paying too
much for one will mean no matter how
well you run it you will never make a
commercial return
be careful what you outsource to third
parties to do and remember those who's
left holding the baby when the experts
ride out of town
skin in the game
contrary to recent reports in the media
the death of the family farm is grossly
exaggerated in my experience investing
along corporate farming lines and joint
in my experience of investing along
corporate vines and joint venture with
farming family farming operations the g
the jv has delivered significant
superior returns with significantly less
hassle especially around hr
in delivering of the
results no structure works better than a
family operation there are many reasons
for this but the most critical is a
concept of skin in the game
my anecdotal example of this is a dairy
operation that i'm involved with they
run both a corporate style and a jv with
a young married couple the difference in
performance and hassle is staggering i
experienced this being the case with
other co-investment models that we have
set up in the broadacre industry with
overseas investors and family farming
operations
costs cost efficiency is critical
hopefully the takeaway message from the
first couple of slides is that prices
will do what prices will do they will go
up they will go down but over the long
term they'll revert to the mean
this means high cost operations over
long run will run at a loss
and low cost will run at a profit in the
australian context systems that require
high inputs of labor and energy will
always be at a disadvantage to those
that don't
flexible farming options and realistic
exit options again to quote the great
farming consultant dorothy mckellar
we farm in a country of droughts and
flooding rains add to this fire frost
locusts plagues and other vermin
adaptability of our farming system is
essential to success
the value of adaptability farming
systems borne out in some work done in
the 1990s by a beer that looked at the
coefficient of variation of operating
profits in broadacre regions of
australia it was not surprising the
farms in the wheat sheep zone had the
best coefficient variations given the
ability to vary farming operations
depending on climate conditions and
equivalent profitability of the
livestock versus grain
with regards to exit options and i can't
reiterate how important this is and it
is so often over
is is missed
is the ability to get out of the
investment it is often assumed that the
end of the investment period we just put
it on the market and bob's your uncle
come in comes the money as per the excel
spreadsheet i love
excel farming as my colleague continues
to remind me buying farmers easy running
a farm is hard
selling a farm is harder still if you do
want to be sydney kidman then when you
get bored of it remember the market
demand for these large lumpy operations
are small and it can take years to sell
the operation
so in summary yep in summary
some of you may think i'm down on
investment in agriculture nothing could
be further from the truth in fact i want
people to invest with both eyes open and
avoid the spin and ticket clippers that
populate the space in my opinion
agriculture can provide a return that is
commensurate with other investment
classes an example here are the returns
from my superannuation fund
for the nine years
from 2006 to 2015 and this is an
industry fund australian shares total
returns 5.53
international shares 4.79
property 5.4 fixed interest 5 cash 3.82
and alternatives
2
done properly ag investment can easily
out do these returns done done badly
even 2 will look good thank you