"Establishment of the Church: How Did They Decide" by Paul Shirk | KFW 2025
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The speaker introduces the topic by drawing an analogy between his own school experience with mathematics and the historical process of establishing the Anabaptist church. Just as a teacher insisted on showing one's work rather than just providing the correct answer, understanding the *process* used to arrive at a conclusion is just as vital as the conclusion itself. In the context of the 16th century, this meant examining how early Christians and reformers navigated a time of great upheaval where medieval traditions were being challenged by various voices regarding scripture interpretation. The speaker argues that many people today mistakenly believe they are Anabaptists simply because they hold certain answers, whereas true Anabaptism requires understanding the rigorous decision-making process these historical figures underwent to determine what it meant to be a church.
During this era of unrest, several competing models for the church emerged based on different authorities and presuppositions. The Roman Catholic Church claimed authority through apostolic lineage and argued that maintaining social order was more important than doctrinal purity, fearing that challenging the established church would lead to anarchy. The Protestant Reformers, while rejecting specific Catholic doctrines like transubstantiation, largely adopted a "state church" model influenced by Augustine's writings on a mature church influencing the state; they believed the magistrate had the authority to coerce subjects toward the gospel and maintained infant baptism to ensure societal uniformity. Conversely, other groups like the Zwickau prophets rejected organized structures entirely in favor of direct personal revelation, which ultimately led to chaos and rebellion, while Renaissance scholars emphasized individual reason over tradition, creating a landscape where Anabaptists had to carefully distinguish their path from both extremes.
The Anabaptists distinguished themselves by establishing a unique model based strictly on the New Testament pattern of house churches and conscious faith, rejecting the idea of a state church or infant baptism. They argued that only those who had personally repented and been born again were qualified to interpret Scripture, introducing the concept of an "inner word" where the Holy Spirit guides the believer's understanding. This approach meant they could not accept creeds or traditions that contradicted the example of Christ and His apostles, emphasizing that faith must result in a regenerated life characterized by obedience and humility. Unlike their opponents who relied on proxy faith for infants or state coercion, Anabaptists insisted that every individual must make a conscious decision to follow Jesus, accepting that this choice carried eternal consequences and that no priest could undo the finality of one's destiny.
Ultimately, the speaker concludes that being an Anabaptist today is not about merely memorizing historical answers or carbon-copying past actions without understanding the underlying principles. Instead, it requires a commitment to pattern one's life and church after the specific example of Jesus Christ and His apostles as found in the New Testament. The history of Anabaptism teaches that the method used to reach conclusions is just as important as the conclusions themselves; if the process deviates from following Christ, even well-intentioned answers will lead to variance with biblical truth. Therefore, the true mark of an Anabaptist is not a label but a deliberate choice to follow the path of Jesus, ensuring that both the decisions made and the manner in which they are reached align perfectly with the New Testament model.
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Well, good evening and greetings in our
our Lord's worthy name.
As I was thinking about how to introduce
this subject of uh how did they decide,
my mind went back to my school days and
uh one of my school teachers was an
individual who introduced me and one of
the things that would sort of clash
between me and school teachers
uh through my time in school
was when I thought I could arrive at the
answer without showing my work
especially in math. Uh my father was
good at doing math in his head and I
thought to be like that would be I
should uh start in school and practice
by not showing my homework and just
trying to do it in my head and get to
the answer. Well, I got some bad grades
in school as a result of taking that
approach until I was able to be
reformed.
And it felt like a radical reformation.
But why was why did the teachers insist
on me showing my work rather than just
making sure I had the right answer?
Because as I would learn more about
math, there would eventually come a time
in which these things could not just all
be done in the head. And having the
right process whereby we got the right
answer was just as important as getting
the right answer.
And so as we look at this subject
tonight, I use that sort of as an
analogy.
Sometimes I think we as Anabaptist
people tend to look at what we ask the
question what does it mean to be an
Anabaptist and so we try to arrive at
the right answer and if we can give the
right answers now we have proven that
we're Anabaptists
and I would like to if that is your
thinking tonight I would like to suggest
a radical reformation to your thinking
and I would like you to think about
what the the scenario that these people
were being called into
and they would go about deciding a
church.
It was a time as we've seen uh from
today that of great unrest and upheaval.
The medieval traditions were being
challenged. The established church was
being challenged by many voices.
There was a lot of different ideas.
How should the scriptures be interpreted
and applied? And how would we know that
we are following the right direction?
How do we know that we've been that we
are arriving at the right
interpretation?
And so I I would like to review some of
the voices that were speaking. we got
some of the the cultural background and
context, but I would also like to go a
little deeper in that and give you some
of the the basic ideas that were
supporting the church models at their
time and then understanding how the
Anabaptist approached scripture and
arrived at a different church model.
So first we have Roman Catholicism
that was the established church for
centuries by this time and the Roman
Catholics claimed to be the apostolic
church
and physically they could they could
trace a lineage back to the times of the
apostles. And so in that sense their
church was very similar to the scenario
when the kingdom of heaven was being
preached to the Jews and the Jews could
say well we have Abraham as our father
and we can trace our lineage back to
Abraham so who are you to tell us that
we need to repent
and so there was somewhat of that
lineage and that ecclesiastical heritage
and mindset among the Catholics. In
fact, it was a very dogmatic argument on
on the behalf of the Catholics is that
we are the true church
and even if we are wrong in some areas,
we are still the right church.
That was basically the the Catholic
approach.
And if you upset the establishment of
the church that now is,
you are going to bring anarchy to the
society and to the nations of this
world. So that the anarchy in itself
will be far worse than the corruption
that you now see.
That was the basic argument of Roman
Catholicism.
And so as the Protestant reformers
looked at this and said, "Well, if the
church itself has the power to excuse
itself or to absolve itself of its own
sins and of its own corruption, we need
to appeal to a higher authority in order
to bring the church into
accountability."
And so as they heard that Catholic
argument, the higher authority than the
organization of the structure of the
church, they felt that well that has to
be the authority of the scriptures
because there's no way of reforming
false doctrines such as
transubstantiation,
purgatory, indulgences, and receiving
salvation just by partaking of the
sacraments. Unless we can prove from the
scriptures that these are false
doctrine. And if we prove from the
scriptures that these are false
doctrine, if we hold up the word of God
as the final authority, then we have
every right to bring reformation.
And they would ask the question, how can
a church be a true church when it has
departed from true doctrine as contained
in the scriptures? And so they were
challenging Roman Catholicism.
uh on the one hand we have a Roman
Catholicism claiming to be the one and
only true church in spite of all its
errors and we have now the reformers
saying that your errors are proving that
you are no longer the true church of
Christ and so you can see there that
there's a clash of ideas not one that
can be very easily reconciled
so the reformers saw that the only way
to advance any significant change was
going to to be to appeal to the
scriptures
as that ultimate authority. And so they
came up with the Latin phrase that we're
familiar with solos scriptor or the
scriptures alone or our rule of faith
and practice. And so from this platform
they would challenge the Roman Catholic
Church.
Now, the Catholics would charge the
reformers with initiating a schism in
the one true church. And by challenging
the Roman Catholic authority, you're
opening that door to ecclesiastical
anarchy.
And what's going to happen as soon as we
allow one other version, soon there's
going to be five and then 10 other
versions. And then nobody will know what
is right. And so you see the argument
and the counterargument.
And so as
as both of these groups who are
approaching the Bible and then we have
what we now call the Anabaptists as they
are also studying and approaching the
Bible.
There's something that needs to guide
the interpretation because we're having
differences in outcomes here. So what is
going to guide the interpretation?
Well, as we begin to study scripture,
most of us
as we be embark on a building project,
we have a vision in our mind of what
this building is going to look like when
it's done.
As someone who comes from a building
background, I do not feel comfortable
launching
a building project unless in my mind I
can build this project and see what it
looks like and feel comfortable so that
I'm not building blindly.
And so the Roman Catholics had a model
and the reformers had a model. The
question is now what will the model be?
Because as we interpret scripture and we
are have a model in our mind, we're
going to tend to interpret scripture to
fulfill the model that is in our mind.
And so it's very important what is that
model in our mind. And in a sense we
have a presupposition or a preconception
when we come to the scripture of what
that model should be. So as we come to
the scripture, what is that model? And
the question should al also be will the
scriptures create that model or will we
create that model and then try to
harness the scriptures to agree with our
model.
And so as the Protestants looked at the
New Testament and looked at the New
Testament churches,
they saw that there's a problem in
trying to advance a reformed church that
uses the assistance of civil government
and is still trying to create or
maintain a Christian society,
a Christian nation and a Christian
society and a Christian church. Sort of
like all one and the same. When we look
at the New Testament,
we don't see that in a New Testament
model of churches. In other words, we
cannot go to the New Testament and look
at New Testament churches and see a New
Testament church working with the state
and with society to create one
monolithic model of the church.
And so they had to come up with another
idea on how to create this model. And so
they went back to the times of Augustine
that would have been around the 400s
and they built their model basically on
the Augustinian model. They look back in
time
and they would have looked to a passage
such as this. This is a passage that was
very often quoted by the reformers in
justification of their church model.
These are the words of Augustine written
against the Donatists of his time back
at the 400s. We have this group of
Donatists who does not want to conform
to the state church. And so Augustine is
writing about these Donatists. And so
the reformers looked at these this
writing of Augustine and said, "Well,
this is what we're dealing with with the
Anabaptists. So this is our answer. This
is the model that we want to build." And
now I'm going to read from the words of
Augustine.
I hear that you have remarked often and
quote the fact recorded in the gospels
that the 70 disciples went back from the
Lord and that they had been left to
their own choice in this wicked and
impious desertion and to the 12 who
alone remained the Lord said will you
also go away. So what the Donatus are
saying to Augustine is Jesus never
forced anyone to follow him and when he
said unless you eat the flesh of the son
of man and drink his blood you have no
life in you. Some of them turned around
and walked away saying, "How can this
man give us his flesh and his blood to
eat? We can't understand this. We're
leaving." And the Donatus were saying,
"Jesus left them go. Jesus did not force
them to be one of his disciples." And so
Augustine's trying to answer this. And
this is how he responds. But you have
neglected to remark that at that time
the church was only beginning to burst
into life from the recently planted seed
and that there was not yet fulfilled in
her the prophecy. All kings shall fall
down before him. Yay, all nations shall
shall serve him. And it is in proportion
to the more enlarged accomplishment of
this prophecy that the church wields
greater power so that she may not only
invite but even compel men to embrace
what is good. So what Augustine was
saying is you can't look at the New
Testament church and just get your model
completely from that because the church
was in its infancy. Why would you want
to build a model after a church that's
still a little baby?
But the church has now grown up. And
when the church grew up, it became
influential and it influenced the state.
It influenced all of society. So when
we're building a church model, we need
to build it after a mature model if we
want to have a mature church. That was
the argument. Well, in the mature model,
they're now going to Old Testament
prophecy. prophecy that talks about the
future reign of Christ where Christ is
ruling nations with a rod of iron and
they're trying to apply that to
Christian government in the present that
Christ will rule through the state and
that will be the rule of the kingdom of
Christ on earth. That's a brief summary
of the argument. I could go into it a
lot deeper, but that that stands that's
still classic Protestant Reformation
theology.
Any true classic reformed person would
desire for that to be the case today in
America. That America would have
Christian leaders and all of society
would be working with Christian
government. The church, the society and
the state working together to make one
Christian entity.
We heard that today as the name given to
to that as being Christendom.
So following in the same line of
thought, I'm now going to quote from a
reformer and you can see I'm just going
to quote it in brief, but you can see
how they follow the Austinian model. So
this is Urbanius Regius and you probably
never heard of him, but Luther said,
Martin Luther said, "We need somebody to
answer the Anabaptist. I'm commissioning
you, Arbanius Regis, to respond to the
Anabaptist argument about the church."
And so here's what he said.
The truth leaves you no choice. You must
agree that the magistr
is the local authorities has the
authority to coersse its subjects to the
gospel.
So now we have a picture of the
reformers as they're trying to purify
the church. The model that they have in
their mind in purifying the church is to
create a better church state model than
what Roman Catholicism has done. So
we're going to get rid of some of the
unscriptural practices, but the model
that we're going to try to build is
still going to be a state church model
where all of society will be Christian.
And that's why they also held on to
infant baptism because it's it's very
difficult to up uphold a state church if
you let it optional to be baptized. But
if you baptize everyone into it before
they can exercise conscious faith now
you hold them accountable to a decision
that was made made for them before they
even reach the age of accountability.
You were baptized. You are a Christian.
and now you have an obligation to follow
the Christian magistrate.
So those were two of the voices that the
Anabaptists would have heard and we saw
how Martin Luther in his infancy was
very or I should say in his earlier days
had some thoughts that were very similar
to Anabaptism. Uric Zwingley in his
earlier days had some thoughts that were
very similar to anabaptism. But when
they began to deal with the state and
the state said we will only go so far
then they adjusted their doctrine
to the point where the state says we'll
go this far but we won't go any further
and so they now that model has been
created. So how we interpret scripture
now has to support what we've already
agreed will be the model.
And so now the scripture has stopped
creating the model because the model's
already been created through negotiation
with the state. Now we need to go to the
scripture and try to use the scripture
to support the model that we've already
agreed upon.
But there were other voices.
There were some self-declared prophets.
They became known as the Zikal prophets.
and they were not in harmony with the
reformed approach because they said in
the reformed approach all that's doing
is turning the clock back in time but
you're still maintaining a state church
model and so it's just simply going to
you're going to dial it back and then
it's going to pro progress again to the
point where it is now with corruption
with Roman Catholicism
and in everything that's being done the
common people and unless unless you're
invited
to the council meeting. We saw the
picture of the council meeting. Council
of Zurich sitting there with the
theologians and they're deciding what
the state church model is going to be.
Well, if you're not invited to that
council meeting, you have no input. And
so the prophets said, "No, we will not
accept the church model where we have no
input. We want input into the church
model." And then as they began to think
this through, they said, 'Well, every
time there is an organized church, and
we look at history, every organized
church eventually corrupts.
So the answer to that is is not to
organize.
And everyone can have the Holy Spirit so
everyone can follow the revelation that
God gives them. And as we all follow our
own revelation, we get together for
fellowship.
this will be our church.
One historian has put it this way.
Perhaps the most distinctive feature of
the Zikal prophets was their
spiritualism
which was that direct revelations
were their ultimate authority in
theological matters.
And the same could be said of Thomas
Müster. As one historian says, even
though he did not necessarily
join them in his theology or in his
teaching, he was of them. And so
ultimately this would lead to what
became known as the peasants rebellion.
And it took place at the city of Müster.
And you probably heard what some of what
took place at the city of Müster. But
these prophets declared that Monster was
now the new Jerusalem. And for all those
who were getting direct revelation from
the Lord, you could gather at Monster
and there there would be a degree of
freedom that was not experienced
elsewhere. But that ended up being a
tremendous failure and that did become
anarchy. And so now the Roman Catholics
and the reformers said, "We can see what
will happen when you do not include the
state in the negotiations with the
church because if you don't have the
state supporting the church, the church
is going to create chaos in society."
And by the way, we can prove it right
there. It is there's a case of monster.
But then we have another voice at this
time. They were the Renaissance
scholars. It was mentioned earlier today
that the the
Constantinople, which was the capital of
the Eastern Roman Empire, that fell to
the Turks in 1453.
And as the Turks were moving in on
Constantinople,
the scholars were fleeing and they were
fleeing into Western Europe. And a lot
of them went into Italy and took a lot
of uh Greek documents with them into
Italy. And so as we was we were told
earlier today, now we have people
studying original sources. And so the
the thought among a lot of the
Renaissance scholars is we don't we
don't want any filter between us and the
original source. We don't need the
church telling us what we should believe
because they've studied the documents
and this is the this is what you should
get out of the documents and now this is
what you should believe. We want to
study on our own. We want to arrive at
our own conclusions on the basis of our
own study. And so there was a lot of
emphasis on reason and study and
academic achievement and intellect.
And as this movement
began to have a voice, there was also a
shift away from the broad power of Roman
Catholicism because they saw Roman
Catholicism
as a a force that dictated what people
could believe. In other words, there
couldn't be free study if someone's
telling us before we even do our study,
what are the conclusions that you need
to draw from your study? And so, they
push back on Roman Catholicism, but they
also pushed back on reformation theology
because they didn't want anyone telling
them what their educational conclusion
should be. And so, they became known as
the freethinkers.
and Conrad Grabble and Felix Mons would
come out of that movement of free
thinkers studying on our own and
arriving at our own conclusions and not
allowing anyone else to force us to
believe what they want us to believe.
And so that was a voice in the culture
at that time in which the Anabaptism was
birthed.
And then we have civil governments and
the civil governments had a vested
interest in what happens here with the
church.
The civil governments of Western Europe
were in great fear of the continued
expansion of the Turkish Empire. The
Turkish Empire was growing in power and
Eastern Europe was falling
area by area to eventually some of the
countries of Eastern Europe fell under
the Ottoman Empire.
And so the Christian western of Europe
realized that the only way they could
hold back the Turks is if they stayed
united in some fashion to fight the
common enemy of the Turks. And so when
the Anabaptists came along and wanted to
had this idea of a separation of church
and state, not only was it going against
state and church ideals, people were
fearful of what this is going to do when
the Turks come into our land and overrun
our land. And if we're divided among
ourselves and our churches are divided
and we're not all fighting against a
common enemy, we're all going to fall
under Islam.
So I asked the question,
was there any pressure?
We tend to think of things in our time
frame and think we have a lot of
pressure and a lot of complexity to deal
with when we make our decisions, but
back then things were simpler. They
didn't have things to deal with that we
have today. You're right. But they had
the same amount of pressure and maybe
perhaps even more because the decisions
that they made they would have to live
and perhaps
die for.
So how would the Anabaptists
work through this?
Were the scriptures the ultimate
authority? If so, how are we going to
interpret them?
The state is requiring infant baptism
and automatic church membership.
If we follow that path, what does it
mean to be born again and to follow
Christ?
Do we follow the spirit and individual
revelation and have no organized church
structure?
What about studying academic studies?
Are we against academic studies or where
does that fall in relation to finding
truth within the church? What about all
the church tradition? What about all the
church fathers? What about all the
ecumenical church councils? What about
the papal magisterium and their ability
to invoke infallibility? We reject the
pope's infallibility. But then they're
going to ask us, well, where's our
infallibility? And how do we know that
we are right when we reject the
infallibility of the pope?
Is it really bad if the civil government
wants to be Christian? Wouldn't that be
a good thing?
But how does that fit in our model of
pursuing a pure New Testament church?
And then finally they had to answer the
question
is it possible that we can work within
the existing locally established church
whatever that is Roman Catholic or
reformed or must we break from the state
churches
all decisions that needed to be made
and the question is how did they go
about making that decision.
and believing that they arrived at a
right conclusion and they were ready to
die for what they believed in.
Fortunately, the Anabaptists have shown
us their work.
So, we want to go through some of that.
They were not like me and just tried to
run to the answer at the end when I was
a student of math. But they showed their
work and that's what we want to do is
show some of their work.
They recognized
that in order to accurately interpret
scripture,
we need to agree that we are not
building a state church because a state
church does not exist within the New
Testament. And therefore, our model for
our church is the church that we see in
the New Testament. In the New Testament,
we see house churches. In the New
Testament, we see churches in their
infancy. In the New Testament, we see
church, a church at Jerusalem where
James says there's thousands of of men
that believe. And so, we see in the New
Testament, churches at various stages of
growth. And in fact, we have a lot of
instruction within the New Testament
that tells us how the church is to grow
up and how the church is to mature. And
so they looked at the New Testament and
said the New Testament is our model for
the church. If we do not find it in the
New Testament, then we know that is not
the model. And if we interpret scripture
in a way that makes us depart from the
New Testament model of the church, we
know we are not interpreting the
scripture correctly. We can see the New
Testament model, what those churches
look like. We need to interpret the
Bible in a way that is consistent with
that. But now we need to bring it down
into even a more personal level. Because
how can we build a New Testament church
unless it first begins at the individual
level where I personally and consciously
make a decision to follow Jesus Christ,
whatever that cost may be.
So, it's only until I have made a
personal decision to follow Jesus Christ
and have been born again am I qualified
to look at the scriptures and interpret
them to understand what a church might
look like that is made up of born again
believers who all want to follow Jesus
Christ.
You know the reformers had a number of
alones
scriptor
solid or faith only solaria
only grace solar Christos only Christ
there's one they didn't have
so I coined this
noam testamentum eklesia solola
or solom testamentum eklesia
only the New Testament church. They did
not have that in their list of alones.
And so as they built their model on
their alones,
they left one very important one out.
Menos Simons would write this
as an instruction to preachers. So apply
the word and truth of the Lord that they
dare not teach or practice a word
otherwise than Jesus Christ himself has
taught, practiced and commanded, namely
the pure unadulterated biblical word in
the true sense and meaning of Christ and
his holy apostles. What Menos Simons was
saying is that not only are we just
looking at the scriptures as our final
authority, but we have to interpret the
scriptures in a manner that is
consistent with the pattern of Christ
and his apostles. And we may only
practice what they practice. Because
otherwise we will not have the church
that Jesus built unless we follow the
same example that Christ set for us.
And his apostles, he said, were faithful
followers of Christ. So you cannot
follow the apostles and arrive at a
different conclusion than if you just
follow Christ. The apostles followed
Christ. And so we need the example of
both. We need the example of Christ. We
need the example of the apostles and we
need to recognize that that model is the
same. There's no conflict in that model.
Jesus promised to the apostles that he
would guide them into
all truth
and on that basis they established
churches.
Men would write also, "True evangelical
faith looks upon and has respect to the
doctrine, ceremonies, commands,
prohibitions, and unblameable
examples of Christ alone." There's the
men of Simons alone
that when it comes to an example, the
only example that we can follow as we
obey, interpret, and apply the
scriptures is the example of Christ
alone. or as he said at another place,
Christ and the apostles alone.
That is one alone that was missing in
the state churches.
What are some other distinct areas
between the Anabaptists and how they
they uh made their decisions with and
arrive at different outcomes? So the one
that we've identified first is the
model. The model or the vision that they
had of a church was solely based on a
model that was set by the example of
Christ and the apostles. So all their
interpretation of scripture needs to
feed into that model and that model
needs to back feed into the
interpretation of scripture.
When you divorce interpretation of
scripture from the example of Christ or
the model of Christ, no matter how many
exoggetical backflips you do, you will
arrive at a wrong conclusion.
And this made a big difference in
interpretation of scripture. Whereas the
Anabaptists in their interpreting
scripture, their first approach was to
take scripture in its simplest form and
simply obey it.
and you use the simple scriptures to
help you interpret the more complex
scriptures.
Whereas often the reformers or I'll just
say the state church model
would use some very intricate
interpretations and applications
of
scriptural parables of the kingdom and
then try to use them to cancel out the
very plain and simple teachings of
Christ.
One of the things that they would go on
to say is that
whereas the the state churches said that
in the parable of the wheat and tears,
they looked at the parable of the wheat
and tears as a complete parable of the
kingdom. And in the parable of the
kingdom, there's both wheat and tears.
That's what they would argue. And the
Anabaptist would respond, "Well, you're
not following the example that Jesus
gave in the interpretation and
application of that parable where he
said, "The field is the world."
That's where the wheat and tears are in.
They're in the world.
And the wheat are the children of the
kingdom.
Because in the one model you're trying
to prop up a state church model and in
the other model you're following the New
Testament pattern. And so it makes a
difference and how you interpret that
parable based on the model that we are
trying to build.
So on the one hand both the Protestants
and the Catholics believe the church in
their time should look different from
the apostolic church.
And you know what? They accomplished
their goal.
It did look different from the apostolic
church.
The Anabaptists
believe that unless you were born again,
unless you had the indwelling of the
Holy Spirit, and unless you were
following Christ, you were not qualified
to interpret scripture, even if you had
a lot of academic training.
Leonard Shimemer in 1528 right before he
was beheaded he wrote only through the
spirit can we hope to understand the
gospels.
Lewig hater in 1529 before he was
beheaded understand that these
statements are made before someone is
ready to give their life for their
statement.
No man, no matter how learned he may be,
can understand the holy writings until
he comes to know them and learns them in
the most inward part of his soul.
So what is being said here?
The only way that we become a qualified
interpreter of scripture is if we take
scripture within ourselves and the
scripture is written on our law on the
on our minds and on our hearts
and we are living out the scripture. as
as we live out the scripture, we learn
to properly interpret the scripture. And
the only way that we can understand the
scripture to live it out is if the Holy
Spirit is living within us. It can only
happen if we've been born again. If we
had a conscious decision of faith
and so they would refer to this
sometimes as the inner word. The inner
word is simply the word that we have
received with meekness which is which
God has engrafted to us which is able to
save our souls. Being born again not of
corruptible seed but of incorruptible by
the word of God which lives and abides
forever. So as we've been born again of
the incorruptible seed, now we are
qualified to interpret the outer word
because the inner word and the outer
word are already in agreement.
Repentance means coming to an agreement
with God. That's literally what
repentance means. I'm turning my I'm
going in one direction. I'm turning in
another direction and I'm turning in
another direction because I am now
agreeing with God. It is impossible to
accurately interpret scripture. Unless
you've consciously repented. Because
unless you've consciously repented, your
mind does not agree with God. When your
mind does not agree with God, the inner
word and the outer word are in conflict.
When the inner word and the outer word
are in conflict, it will affect your
biblical interpretation.
And so the Anabaptists stressed
conscious repentance, conscious faith,
not proxy faith.
And the verse that the reformers like to
quote, "The just shall live by faith."
Go back to the original source. The just
shall live by his faith, personal faith.
Abraham was justified by his faith, not
a proxy faith.
And see, the whole reformed and state
church theology and Roman Catholic
theology was based on bringing people
into the church as infants based on
proxy faith of sponsors and proxy faith
of parents. In other words, believing
for the child.
That's the best way to fill a church
with unregenerate people is to bring
them in before they are regenerated.
Along with their interpretation
and their steadfastness was also
humility.
They were careful not to have intricate
creeds that would assume that they would
know everything.
They were careful to to set aside a
personal pope and replace it with a
paper pope.
Recognizing that we need to be always
open to receive more truth and open
enough to allow error to get out.
They taught that regeneration is always
evidenced
by godly character and obedience.
Now listen to the words of men of Simons
as he talked about justification by
faith. The Anabaptists were often
accused that they did they did not
believe in justification by faith
because they stressed
a regenerated life after faith was
exercised. And so Men of Simon said
this, "We plainly teach that we cannot
be saved by outward works, however great
and glorious they may appear, or that we
can thus entirely please God, for they
are ever mixed with imperfection and
weakness. And therefore through the
corruption of the flesh we cannot
acquire the righteousness required in
the commandments. Therefore we point
alone to Jesus Christ who is our only
eternal righteousness reconciliation and
propitiator with the father and do not
at all trust in our works. But then he
would go on to say but we abhore the
carnal works and desire to suit
ourselves to his word and commandment.
According to our own weakness we do
because he has so taught and commanded
us. For whosoever does not walk
according to his doctrine proves in fact
that he does not believe on him nor
knows him and that he is not in the
communion of the saints. So in very
simple form
men Simons was saying
we trust Jesus completely for our
salvation and when we trust Jesus
completely for our salvation he makes us
into followers of Jesus Christ.
That's I'm saying it as simple as I can
say it.
Faith is never in conflict with works.
It is not an argument about how much.
It's a matter of trusting in Jesus alone
in order that Jesus himself would create
us in him unto good works.
Not only did they believe the only way
of salvation was by a conscious and
personal response to the gospel,
they also believe that those
responses that we give to the gospel
would decide our eternal fate,
our eternal destiny.
No priest could undo
what we decided after we have died. In
death, everyone's destiny was final. Men
of Simon would write this concerning
their persecutors. The whole scriptures
testify that they shall forever bear the
intolerable curse and malediction of the
righteous judgment of God in the devour
devouring flames of hell. and their lot
shall be like that of the angel of the
bottomless pit with the unbearable wrath
of God, death and hell, which shall last
forever.
One of the ways in which the Roman
Catholics would get people to be
executioners is that the Roman Catholics
had the power and the state had the
power to tell them to be the
executioner, but then they also had the
power to absolve them of the sin of
execution, especially if they executed
someone who may have been innocent.
But when the Anabaptists looked at this
and said, "No,
you are responsible before God and and
your choice,
whether you're following the orders of a
state or not, your choice to either
follow Christ or choose not to do so has
eternal and irrevocable
consequences."
And so we ask the question,
what does it mean to be an Anabaptist
today?
How should we decide on the issues that
face us?
Do we just try to carbon copy the
Anabaptists and say, "Well, we're
Anabaptists because the best that we can
tell, we're carboncopying them." And so
I asked the question, who did they
carbon copy?
If you were among the first, who did you
carbon copy?
We know who they carboncopied. They did
not try to carbon copy themselves or
anyone else that they respected. I read
it to you. They tried to carbon copy
Jesus Christ and his apostles.
So if you want to be an Anabaptist
today, who do you need to carbon copy?
The same ones that they did.
You know, it makes a radical difference
in your life whether you choose to
become an Anabaptist or whether you
choose to follow Christ. You realize
that makes a tremendous difference.
If you choose to follow Christ in the
way that we describe, someone might call
you an Anabaptist and that's okay. But
if you choose to be an Anabaptist,
we don't know if you're following Christ
unless you first choose to follow him.
You see,
we're all infected with the same thing
that I'm infected with. We want to
quickly get to the bottom line. And if
we think we know what the right answers
are, we can memorize the right answers.
And if we can memorize the right
answers, we can repeat the right
answers. And we can tell everybody we're
an Anabaptist because we can repeat the
Anabaptist answers.
The history of Anabaptism shows us today
that sometimes how we make decisions is
even more important than the decisions
that we make.
And I would quote my father at this
point who said,
"Often it is not so much what a man does
that is most important, but it is what
moves him to do it.
Those
who have been called Anabaptists in the
past,
it was their desire to pattern their
lives and their churches after the
pattern of Christ and the apostles as is
modeled in the New Testament.
But how you arrive at your conclusions
is just as important as what you have
concluded.
Because how we decide makes a
significant difference in how we
communicate the message.
Just as the teacher wanted me to show my
my work because it wasn't just important
that I got the right answer one time, I
needed to understand the process whereby
I might continue to get right answers.
It's very easy for us to memorize an
answer and then to try to carbon copy
that answer. But when we don't
understand the process of following
Christ and modeling a church after the
New Testament pattern as we're applying
the stereotypical carbon copy, we're
going to make a mistake
that's going to put us at variance
with the New Testament.
How we communicate the message has a
significant impact on the response of
the listener.
In closing, I would simply say it this
way. We desire to follow Jesus path to
Jesus truth.
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