Video summary
The central theme of the discussion revolves around the concept of "high-value men," individuals defined by nearly four decades of accumulated resources, extensive networking, and significant academic or professional effort. The speaker draws a parallel between these men and the exclusivity of venues like Studio 54, arguing that their value is derived from scarcity and the rigorous work required to achieve their status. Consequently, they seek partners who can appreciate this hard-earned position and are willing to support them through lean years, a dynamic that many modern women allegedly reject in favor of seeking "pre-made" success without witnessing the underlying struggle. This perspective suggests that high-value men prioritize beautiful, feminine, and cooperative partners over those who display entitlement or question their worth, as they view such attitudes as incompatible with the demands of a serious relationship.
The narrative is further illustrated through several caller stories that highlight the perceived incompatibility between personal ambition and traditional partnership roles. One caller, Gabriella, left her hardworking husband—a janitor who supported her through graduate school—for a career-focused life, only to later question why she would not choose another provider given her own physical attributes and history of having a child with an Uber driver. Another caller, a high-earning COO, admits that despite her attractiveness and income, she struggles to find suitors because years of prioritizing her career left her without essential relationship skills and limited the pool of men willing to meet her specific demands regarding children and lifestyle. These examples serve to reinforce the argument that leaving a supportive partner who helped raise one's child effectively prices an individual out of the marriage market, often resulting in a status akin to being a permanent "side chick."
Ultimately, the discussion concludes by addressing the root causes of these relationship failures, pointing to issues such as low self-esteem, a lack of therapy, and poor vetting processes that lead individuals to settle for less or make incompatible choices. The speaker emphasizes that high-value men generally do not marry women who are single mothers or have a history of abandoning supportive partners, labeling these situations as fundamentally at odds with the standards of high-value status. The overarching message warns against judging potential partners too harshly or expecting perfection that contradicts male nature, urging individuals to recognize that true value is built on mutual effort, appreciation, and the willingness to navigate life's challenges together rather than demanding a finished product without contributing to the journey.
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No,
it's not [music] hard to fool me. No,
cuz I'm addicted [music] to [singing]
the good life.
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say
I follow.
So here we are back again with another
video.
Here is one of the main reasons. What I
was saying is one of the my most viewed
videos, my most watched videos, my most
enjoyed videos.
Enjoyed videos. There we go. Now we
should not sound echoing.
No, no, no, no. Hey, Logan Williams, why
don't you go ahead and call in?
Stop bashing women. First of all, let me
explain to you, Logan. I'm not talking
about your single mother. Okay?
Anytime I see somebody coming in with a
man screaming,
sadly far too many guys today, you act
like the mother that raised you.
Okay.
When a man uses the word bash, I'm
automatically imagining somebody who
wears lace underwear.
That is not a masculine word.
It simply isn't. It's not a masculine
word.
Men can communicate better than saying,
"Don't bash women."
Men can communicate better than that.
Okay? We build the airplane while we're
flying it, baby.
So
now here's a problem with uh girls like
Logan have
and I'mma go into it tonight because see
high value men if you've noticed over
the last over the last several years
I've I've been talking about I over the
last several months I've been talking
about how how high value men act how
high value men operate.
All right.
>> How high value men act, how high how
high value men operate.
>> And see the diff the difference between
high value men. See when you start
talking about when you start making
distinctions, people get upset.
People start getting upset. All right.
Anybody who comes in and highlights me,
I'm putting you in timeout. If you say
anything, if you highlight me, if you
type in all caps, I'm going to time you
out. If you and after that, I'm going to
block you.
So, moderators, anytime if anybody
starts talking crap in the in the
comments section, here's what I want you
to do. If anybody comes in and says no
sound, video delay, anything like that,
moderators, time them out.
If I look up and I don't and I see the
moderators not doing their job, I'm
taking wrenches because I got a broad a
broadcast to do. If they're talking
about no sound video, this that or if
they're typing all caps, time them out.
Then I'll see it. Okay. So, here's what
we do.
You notice that when I was talking
about, you know,
before I started drawing lines
between men and women,
before I start drawing lines between
high value men and other men, people
were just like, "Way to go, Godfather."
But soon as I said, "You know what? High
value men, it starts with money
automatically."
I knew there were going to be guys that
were going to get upset. Why? because
they don't qualify.
Now, why is that important?
People tend to
People tend to get upset about things
they want that they can't qualify for.
People tend to get upset
about things that they want, but they
can't qualify for. Back in the 70s,
there was a hot nightclub called Studio
54,
and they did something that was
revolutionary.
Before
you used to go to a nightclub, anybody
could get in. But Studio 54 understood
that scarce, they applied market
principles. They understood that
scarcity, uniqueness, sells. So what did
they do? They put up a velvet rope
outside of Studio 54, put a bounce out
there, and then the bouncer got to
decide who got in and who didn't get in.
They hand selected the crowd every night
and there would be lines around the
block. You could not get in.
It didn't matter who you were. There
were millionaires who couldn't get in
this club.
See why? Because where where everybody
wants to be, everybody wants to be high
value ladies. Men understand that women
like men with resources and money.
That's why you get so many people trying
to change the game. Well, it's about
looks, it's about this, it's about that.
Uh, you can be a little bitty short bald
man and if you're a billionaire, you got
no problems.
High value men start with money. And to
become a highvalue man,
to become a highvalue man, it takes a
lot. To become a highvalue man, it takes
a lot of work.
You have to put in the academic work.
You got to put in the hours.
It takes a man for almost 40 years to
become a high value man.
I'm not talking about athletes,
entertainers. I'm talking about average
everyday guys. But see, this is where we
flip things up.
We flip things up today because women
used to understand what it took to for a
man to become high value.
And they understood that it required
that man to do a lot of work.
Networking, everything else required him
to do a lot of work.
And the women who wanted men like this
understood that they either had to get
them early and stay with him through the
lean years to get the ultimate payoff
or they did not get him.
Very few women got a high value man
after he became high value unless you
became part of the second wives club.
meaning he divorced his first wife and
then he went got up. But the second wife
was always hot, young,
pretty.
That's the way the world has always
worked.
Now, before we get into it, man, we
gonna have to get these likes up. Get
these likes up. Get these likes up. We
got to get these likes up over Man, come
on now. We got to get these likes up
over uh 1500, man. Got to get these
likes up over 1500.
Come on. Come on. Come on.
And uh we got to keep it going. Check
your cash app. I will. Thank you very
much. See, and it also used to be that
men have men have long accepted that in
order to truly be high value. You can't
just talk a good game. You have to show
your work.
Go back to the broadcast I did on high
value and you'll understand exactly what
I mean.
that you have to show your work.
You have to have the money. You have to
have the resources, network, the
connections, and then you have to be
able to show where it comes from. So
when a man goes through all that, when
think about everything a man has to go
through to become high value,
why in the world do you think
why in the world do you think a man like
that
would then
want to settle for an average
woman?
Never before, never before have we had
never before that I can think of in
human history have we had so many
averageooking women wanting, expecting,
demanding high value men. Oh, sure, they
may have wanted them. They may have
dreamed for them or fantasized them, but
they never thought they should have
them. They never thought they should
that they should get them to where you
can be 5 foot4, 200 pounds, thinking
that you should be able to just pick
high value men left and right and they
should be courting you as if you are the
catch. So tonight we're going to talk
about it.
Tonight we're going to talk about it. We
guns, we're going free fire tonight.
I get more heat, more more push back
from average women,
average looking women
for telling them that highv value men
don't want women like you. Now, see,
high value men can't come out and say it
because they have a professional or
reputation to uphold, but they're my
clients.
But all you have to do is look at a man
and look at the woman he chooses after
after
he has his money.
It's all you have to do. Oh, all you
have to do is look at um the the the
woman he chooses after he has his money,
not before. See, I've heard I had
somebody in the chat room earlier today.
What is this? What is he talking about?
average women can't get good-looking
men. Well, that's not true. And what
what's the what's the old adage? You
always get some
woman coming here saying, "Well, my
husband
works at this place
and all these high value men are with
all these average women."
And I come and ask the same questions.
Why I where I go, I see average women
with high value men. And I say, "Where
and when?" And then inevitably it's some
it's some sister coming through here
talking about her high-v valueue husband
who knows all these high-value non-black
men and all their wives are just
average. And my question is always the
same. Well, one, if you really are
married to a high value man, why are you
even here? Two, do you know these
people? Because again, non-black women
have been taught to to get a man early
on and ride with him through the lean
years. See, if you want a high value
man, you better get him when he's 18,
19, 20, 21, and then you got to ride
with him for 20 years. Uhoh. Oh [ __ ]
But that can't work, right? Because that
means you working with a build.
That means you working with a build. I
ain't working with a build. You ain't
try. The average black woman today does
not want to work. She does not want to
do any work. She wants it already
pre-made. I got no problem with that.
What do most women in here want? They
want men who are making $300,000 a year
or more so that they don't have to work.
On my Facebook group, I actually have
women asking a question.
They're pushing it even further.
Black men, understand something. Black
women want you to be able to pay all the
bills and never hiccup. And if you don't
make if you mess up, they're suspect to
leave you. Just know that
cuz there's this whole thing about
struggle and build and all that other
stuff. And see over here on the high
value side, we got no problem with that.
I got no problem with what they want cuz
I'm over here. I've always been a a
driven man, an ambitious man. Then
what's the other side? Women try to
question you. Well, don't listen to guys
like him and this don't listen to guys
like me. So, you need to listen to bust
down strags.
Look, guys, understand something.
You're going to when you're when you're
trying to become the best, the top 10%,
the top 5%, you're going to make people
upset even when you don't try to. The
truth of your existence is offensive
because they want what you have, but
they're not willing to do the work. So
why do high value men
why are why are averagelooking women so
upset
with high value men? That's the
question. Why are average women so upset
with high value men? Questioning whether
who are you? Do who is he? Do you really
hide the value? I have an entire career.
It's posted on LinkedIn.
Well, who is he? He He can't be what he
says. I mean, we don't know. Let's say
your bank account. Are you Are you
serious, lady?
Really? This is where it is again. The
kill the messenger thing.
A channel with almost 100,000
subscribers and a thriving business. And
I got people questioning, "Wow, how do
we know he's high value?" You don't.
And it doesn't matter. What we do know
is men like myself don't deal with women
like you.
This is not about Kevin. I'm talking
about high value men. I am not talking
about me in particular. And I will tell
you some of the biggest reasons
average averagel looking women are angry
with high value men is because
of the truth.
Average-looking women are upset with the
truth.
How many times do you hear someone come
over here saying, "Stop being so rude.
You're so kind. That's so mean. Don't be
harsh. Don't bash." And all those kind
of things. And let's get right into it.
You don't become a high value man by
being a snowflake.
High value men are competitive,
assertive, confident, aggressive.
They're in your face.
And here's the thing.
If you cannot handle a man like that, he
won't have you in his world. See, sadly,
so many of our sisters have been taught
to think that we're your that we're your
equals. No, you're going to have to be
his second. You're going to have to be
second. He's the star of the show, not
you.
You are the co-star.
You have a defined role, but he's the
star. The one time you're the star is on
the wedding day. After that, you're the
co-star.
You're the help.
You're the support, the help meet.
See, averagel looking women don't
understand high value men because you're
not around them. Averageelooking women
are around average guys and they
understand average guys. Average guys
are willing to kind of negotiate with
with you. They're willing to partner
with you. High value men are not
or not.
Averageelooking women don't like the
truth.
Understand something.
That's where it comes from. But before
we get into it, are the likes up? Oh,
we're not even halfway at the likes.
We're not even halfway at the likes. So,
you know what we're going to have to do?
Get it up. Come on. We're gonna have to
get the likes up before we do something
else, man.
You think what it takes to be a head of
the head of a company, the owner, the
somebody in charge of, you know, dozens
or hundreds of people, right? It takes a
lot.
It takes a lot to be in charge of that
kind of stuff, man. It takes a lot to be
in charge of that kind of stuff. That's
what it does. It takes a lot.
So when you're an averagel looking
woman, think about a lot of average
looking women. They know they're not
nine, eights, nines, and tens. They want
to be.
No one in in today's in today's culture,
in today's society, most people can't
really be honest and tell the truth.
It's a very PC world. Men
pay a high personal price for telling
women the truth, so they avoid it.
Highvalue men don't.
High value men don't care.
They don't give a French toast. They
don't care because they have enough
resources, network,
connections, friends, and everything
else
to withstand
a few upset people.
That's number one. Why are average women
so upset with highv value men? Because
highv value men openly tell the truth.
They want beautiful women.
They want beautiful, feminine, hot,
cooperative, submissive women.
That's what they want. Young, beautiful,
hot, inspirational, cooperative,
submissive women. They don't want
middleage
battle acts, nagging questions.
They don't want
nice,
cooperative, submissive, feminine,
unattractive women.
They have enough to wait to get what
they want. See, high value men will
wait. They're they're not they don't
have to decide. They don't have the
pressures that a lot of average guys
have. they can do what they want to do.
And a lot of average women are angry
because they simply cannot get a higher
value man.
You can't get them. You cannot get them.
You cannot get them because you aren't
what they want.
And that bothers a lot of women. It
bothers them so much to where even when
I you I have somebody come in here ask
me where where do I rank and I give you
a ranking you question everything
question this I'm wrong this person's
wrong that person's wrong what does your
ring finger say how many how many truly
high value men are trying to marry you
not date you hook up with you marry you
and that's what it comes down to
so when high value men
start telling the truth, averagel
looking women get angry. And what do
they want to do? And see, and this is
what's really unique to the black
community.
In other parts of the world, women
accept the fact, hey, I don't look good
enough to have a multi-millionaire. I
don't look good enough to to have a to
be a stay-at-home wife and have a driver
and have a maid.
And even if I did look good enough
to to be a stay-at-home wife, I don't
look good enough to be a woman to stay
at have a stay-at-home
housekeeper and a maid. I mean, really,
you got middle, we have attract, we have
pretty black women who are eights
thinking that they that why not be
living a luxury life. No, you don't get
a luxury life with a $300,000 man. You
get a nice life.
I mean, where does this madness come
from to where
a an everinccreasing amount of women are
thinking that all I have to do is land
me a Henry, lay back,
produce a couple of children, and then I
could just sit here for the rest of my
life while he goes out and works 12-hour
days while the kids are with the nanny
and in private school. And then I could
just get driven around town
and do what? No.
See,
high value fantasies are on both sides.
Men have them, women have them. Like the
day I was calling in talking about highv
value men, and I had men, men who hadn't
had jobs in two years, guys who were 20
years old, and I cut them off. You're
not high value. You don't even know what
you're talking about. ladies would Oh,
that's right. It's one of his best
shows. Can you get a bad chick? Uhhuh.
But then the other side of it, are you a
bad chick?
Can you seriously get a high value man?
And the and the harsh reality is
for for the majority of you, no.
Tonight we're going to talk about it.
>> [clears throat]
>> How many times have you guys ever
How many How many times have you guys
ever gone to a club or something like
that or a hotel or restaurant and they
had valet outside?
Okay.
It is valet's job to park
some of the best cars in the city.
And as
a valet,
you can be handed the keys to a Bentley,
a a Bentley, a Ferrari, a Lamborghini,
a variety of exotic cars,
and you can drive them from here to
there.
Okay.
And someone will pay you to do that.
But that's only because that's your job.
Those very valet cannot go to the
Bentley place and test drive a car.
Cannot go to the Ferrari or the
Lamborghini dealership and test drive a
car off their own name. Why? Because
they don't just let everybody test drive
those. You got to prove that you qualify
to be there.
You could say, "Oh man, I drove a
Countach the other day." Great. That may
have been over at the hotel, but over
here, we need to we need to know that
you have insurance. We need to know that
you are somebody who can really purchase
this. Go try to test drive a Bentley.
See what happens.
Some men can afford to do what other men
can only afford to park.
Some men can afford to do what other men
can only afford to park or valet.
Well, ladies, that that holds true to
you, too. You may be able to have an
interaction with a high value man,
but if you but if he is not if he
doesn't take you seriously to wife you,
it don't count.
And that bothers
a lot of women today. Why? Because your
standards,
you want more. You want better than you
look.
And when somebody like me comes along
and talks about high value this, high
value that work and all this other
stuff, you have no problem with me
talking about that or the guys who are
doing that. But you have an issue when
it's something that you feel like you
should. Here's the thing. A lot of women
feel as though or they're entitled or
they think they deserve to get it
because you make a $100,000 a year
because you went to an Ivy League
school.
And men do not and have never picked a
woman that way. High value men pick
women off of their looks. So tonight
we're going to talk about it. Now
understand something. If you choose to
call into my show or my program,
it is voluntary. This is a broadcast. It
is going to be repeated, replayed, or
whatever. If you get up here,
you're you're waving your rights to
privacy because I find it interesting
that people think they can get on shows
and go, "No, you invaded my privacy."
They don't no privacy on YouTube. When
you decide to call into a live show, you
don't want to be on YouTube. You don't
want to have your privacy, then you book
a session.
When I speak of high value, I'm not
talking about Kevin.
I'm talking about my clients, the guys I
interact with, the guys I network with,
the guys I the men I deal with.
This platform is getting a lot of
attention. Uh, oh, by the way, if you
guys didn't notice it, uh, Thursday
night, Thursday night, same bat time,
same bat channel, the show, me and Alpha
Male Strategies will be here 1000 p.m.
Eastern Standard Time.
High Value Extravaganza.
Me and Alpha Male Strategies here. Um,
also I'll likely be on the room I'll be
on the Roommates podcast this season in
season four.
in my Facebook group, The Mix,
they're close to,400 people. Every day
it grows people trying to get in.
And why? Because over there, I have CIA
men and FBI women. And I personally
decide to pick a pair. And here's the
thing, once you're in the group, you
still have to maintain I I mean what I
say
over there. I don't allow guys to be on
some BS
talking high value this or that and you
ain't that. Yeah. Question I just asked.
Where do you work? How long you been
there? Cuz high value doesn't hide.
In the real world, high value doesn't
hide. It's in your face.
You know when you go to a restaurant and
you are filing six deep out of a car and
then somebody else is getting out of a
car with suicide doors that they are
have more money than you
and they have no problem pulling in
front of you, parking valet, doing
whatever. High value men are tired.
Don't make excuses or feel ashamed of
their work. They've done the work. They
deserve to get they deserve to have fun
with it. They deserve what they get out
of it. And if you want a high value man,
then you're going to have to become a
you're going to have to become what he
wants. And that starts with looks,
your face and your body.
This is when the conversation starts.
Well, we can't call high value money,
says the guy who can't make can't make
the money requirement.
Well, we can't call high value money. We
got to look at character, says the woman
who can't make the looks requirement.
I'm There are more people trying to
change observable reality
than just accepting
I can't afford a Bentley.
I'm in I'm an Accord. I'm a Honda.
What did one The one woman from
Philadelphia said it the best. Who wants
to be average?
If you are overweight
and allowed yourself to get to the size
to where you weigh more than the men
that are at your height, again, if you
weigh more than the men that are at your
height level, you're overweight.
If you're 5'4,
a man that's 5 foot4 should weigh
roughly 140 pounds, 145. If you are five
foot four and weigh more than that, you
weigh more than a man.
Ain't nothing high value about that. And
you can talk about Meg the Stallion and
all this other kind of stuff. She got
shot in the foot by a 5 foot one dude
who had to carry a gun to protect
himself from her big old self. I mean,
let's get into it.
Let's get into it. Let's get into it.
We're about to open the call lines. I
want to hear from the averagel looking
women who seem to think that I have
don't know what I'm talking about. Seem
to have a problem with this.
I mean, I don't understand. I really
don't.
But I'm willing to listen as to why you
can tell somebody something else.
You can always talk about, you know, I
got co-workers
and all this other stuff. Yeah. But
where your man where your high value
husband
[clears throat and cough]
high value men
put barriers up against themselves.
High value men make it to where they
don't have to listen to these
conversations
because they honestly don't care what
you think. They really simply don't care
what you think because they don't have
to.
They simply don't have to
people. Uh let's see how many people
have lost their channels this week. Six
people have lost their channels this
week for take for using my content. I'm
not playing with y'all. When I say don't
use my content, I mean it. Don't use my
my permission. Six channels in two days.
And they were all channels that were
monetized.
Don't play.
Let's see.
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>> I cannot say what's wrong or right.
No,
>> it's not [music] hard to fool me. No,
cuz I'm addicted to [singing] the good
life.
Yes.
[music] Lead the way.
I follow.
No need to say
no.
>> Where [music] we are heading now, baby.
I follow
through to the edge [music] of it all.
To the edge of it all.
So tell your [music] goodbyes
cuz I'll find a better one. Yeah.
So the [music]
>> Yeah, guys. I've had people deciding
that they they think they can just come
to my platform and copy my content and
do what they want to. I got two people
in federal court right now.
So I'm I'm letting you know folks, I'm
not playing with you. I think a lot of
folks just think this is a game and they
think that these videos are just they
want to. When you sign that that uh
YouTube form, you got your information
out there. I've already I'm not going to
say anything. Keep playing. Keep playing
if you want to.
Now, if you want to use my content,
request permission,
and if I grant it, you know, cool. If
not, I I'll keep taking y'all's money.
Anyway, I'mma leave that there. We're
the only group of people that feel like
that we can just because black people,
we have just no chill. It's like, I see
it, I'll use it. Nah, you can't have
that.
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>> Gabriella.
>> Okay, Gabriella, I need you to unmute.
>> Hello. Yes.
>> Hi. Good evening.
>> Hello. How are you?
>> I'm doing very well in yourself.
>> Good. Uh, what did I get wrong on the
topic?
>> Um, I don't think it's per se that you
got anything wrong.
I do believe that a lot of average women
shoot too high and don't correctly rate
themselves or
aren't prepared
for the kind of life that they should
leave. Everyone wants, you know, what
they the glitz and glamour that they see
on television.
>> Okay.
Um, so I think just a lot of average
women don't understand that, you know,
they won't be able to get a high value
man,
>> but that doesn't mean they won't be able
to get a good man. And that bashing men
consistently
bars you from not only getting a high
value man, but also bars you from
getting an average good man.
>> Okay. So, let me play devil's advocate
because this what I hear from a lot of
women. All right. Uh, Gabriella,
I can I I I I'm not qualified for a high
value man, but I can get a good man.
>> Okay. But what separates the good man
from the high value man is the amount of
resources and everything.
A lot of these women still feel like
they can still get it. Like I can I can
get him and then I'll I'll practice on
him, but then I'll still be secretly
wanting this high value man.
>> You see what I'm saying?
>> They don't appreciate the good man that
they have because they still feel like
they should have royalty.
>> And and I feel like they don't
understand that. I mean, at least this
is my perspective. Of course, there's
other perspectives. I could be wrong,
but I don't feel that they understand
that a good man might have high value
character. He does not have the money to
be high value. Um because he's just an
average man just as we don't, you know,
we might not have the looks to be a high
value woman. We don't. Um but that, you
know, just because first off, I think
it's super disrespectful to practice on
someone. Um, you know, if you're not
happy with what you have or what you're
going into, don't go into it. Have real
realistic expectations for your
relationship and for who you are and the
kind of life you want to lead. I also
think that a lot of average women don't
understand that like, yeah, they might
not get a man that has the most money
now, but you know, is he at least
ambitious? Um, does he at least want to
make more money? Is he working towards
that? Are you helping him with that? Are
you encouraging him? Are you, you know,
making sure?
>> Let me ask you something. Let me ask you
something on this thing because I
>> have you ever heard, have you ever
heard, witnessed or seen women who were
average women, they were with a good or
an average man, but then they were
abusing it
>> because they really felt like they could
do better.
>> Yes, I've seen that multiple times.
Okay, talk about that because see see
what we often hear is women are told to
settle and this and that. But what we
don't hear is what I just said. Women
who will have a decent man who's really
on their level but they don't feel like
he's but they don't feel that that's the
best they can get. So they abusing speak
on that because you say you heard of a
lot of times that's jacked up. So for
for example um people in my family they
for specifically an aunt um you know she
has and she's still with this man. It's
not that she's not with this man.
um you know she has a very average man
and she is although she's a very pretty
woman um and she has gotten high value
men in the past. She is not good at
marriage and she has you know said it
multiple times that's why the man she's
with she has not married although
they've been together for 15 years and
he has proposed but she is emotionally
abusive and I
>> What do you mean she's emotionally
abusive? What does that mean? For me,
it's just like, you know, she always is
is yelling and like cursing at him. And,
you know, you mean emasculating him?
>> Yes. Yeah. She's
>> She does that in front of you guys.
>> Well, you know, not necessar she doesn't
do it in public. She kind of does in
front of us, but we're kind of like her
daughters. Um, so we're, you know, she
she had us often when we were growing
up. So, it's like, you know, we're her
kids. Although I didn't
>> have you ever spoken to him one-on-one
and asked him how does he how does he
feel about being treated like that?
>> I haven't I don't like him. Um but that
doesn't mean he's not a you know a good
person in other sense. I just
particularly don't like him.
>> Um so I wouldn't I wouldn't want to
speak to him
>> like past things he's done um you know
before they get together and different
stuff. I just I don't like his character
overall and the way he like treats he
treats her very very well. He treats her
daughter well. He treats um their
grandchildren well. It's just like
everyone else in the family, he just
tends to be like a lot rder too. Um and
I I just don't like that about
>> rude.
>> Rude. Yes. Thank you. Um
>> what do you mean? What do you mean? What
do you mean he's rude? How
>> it's it's just like, you know, we'll
come in. You know, maybe it's not rude.
It's just standoffish. Like we'll come
in and we'll say, "Hey."
>> Okay. Let me So, were you raised with
your dad?
>> Yes, I was.
>> Is he still alive?
>> Yes.
>> Okay.
Some men just have a different way of
being. But, um,
>> yeah, I realize that. I'm not
comfortable. But,
>> see, the thing is, I got to be honest.
We got to get our women past that
because every you've said everything is
great about this guy
except you just don't like the way he he
he does what he needs to be doing.
>> That's what you should be judging him
on, not how you feel about him uh when
y'all watching the game. See, that's why
black men feel like they got to be
perfect.
that every other group of men is he's
taking care of her his wife, his kids.
>> I mean, she's she's financially um
>> No, no, I'm just saying I'm just I'm No,
no. I'm just judging on what you said,
man. I'm just I'm only going what you
said. There's no backtrack, but what I'm
saying is no other race of men has to be
so perfect.
>> None.
>> If you can be a a
>> They've been together how many years? 16
years.
>> 15.
>> 15. 15 16.
>> Yeah.
>> Take care of her. take care of his kids
>> and and that look
he doesn't black men almost have to be
Jesus. So this is what a lot of brothers
when they hear even it's like even when
you give black men a compliment you're
slapping them with another hand
and you don't mean it that way but
that's the way it comes across.
>> I don't I mean I that's the reason I've
never asked
>> but that's the way it comes across. So I
need you to understand that
>> that's the way it comes across. That's
why I'm like, "Well, you're raised with
your dad." Because if you were raised
with your dad, you should understand
like like Rebecca Lan Pope says, men are
not women. We don't talk the way y'all
talk. There are women who say I'm harsh
or I'm rude or I'm I'm this or I'm that.
And the fact that I'm like, "No, I'm a
high value man and I don't have to worry
about strangers feelings when I'm
telling the truth."
>> Of course not. But I mean I mean that's
not really the way. I don't mean like in
talking in a harsh tone cuz my other
uncle does. I just mean he is not like
to the rest of the family and I
understand like he doesn't need to be
but I grew up around my father my um
other aunts husbands and everything like
him
>> um one of them do the other men not
really but one of them
>> say I would just say this that men are
far more accepting and understanding of
men than women are uh women often judge
men black women often judge black men
pretty harshly I get what you're saying,
but I'm just giving you the
interpretation cuz I even looked in the
chat room, but I would bet if you go
back to the chat room in this section, a
lot of brothers will be co-signing what
I said. And I know you didn't mean it
that way. I know you didn't mean it.
>> I really didn't. He's not He's nice in
other ways, but I just I'm just not
comfortable talking to him. I wouldn't I
wouldn't ask him that kind of question
because I don't think it would be
perceived well. I don't think
>> Well, I mean I just I was just curious
if you ever I was just curious if you
ever heard if you'd ever heard him say,
"Man, your man, I love your aunt, but
boy, she she just be on her, brother." I
mean, because after 15 years, I mean,
>> see, here's what should happen.
>> Your mother who who is who's is is your
father her brother or is your mother her
sister?
>> My mother is her sister.
>> Your mother is married to your father?
My mother
>> um they were my mom passed away but
before that my parents were divorced.
>> Okay. So the women of the family
should check her.
That's what should happen. The women
>> I mean the women are the women are
majority of the women excluding one of
my other aunts. They're really you know
they're really Latin like they're
>> that's the problem. Okay. So so listen
what I'm saying. the if this were
another group, the women of the family
would check that.
>> So the younger women like yourself would
un wouldn't even get a ch she wouldn't
get a chance to be the way she's been
for 15 years of your life cuz the other
women should have checked that. But the
women sound like they are just out of
control and the men are having to deal
with it. And men men are eventually men
don't have the emotional outlets. We
don't we're not given the emotional
tools, you're not given the ability to
emote. I mean, the man's doing probably
the best he can. So, if if his niece or
whatever you are to him don't really
like him, he's probably like, "Shit, all
things considered, man, I don't put up
with this 15 years. Y'all lucky I ain't
came in here and butchered everybody."
>> I mean, seriously,
>> we're not we're not rude to him like
everyone in my town.
>> Say you were rude to it, man. Okay.
Okay. Okay. What I need you to do is
just stop trying to adjust it and be
right. Just listen.
Mhm.
>> Black women expect black men to be
perfect
or more than anything else.
And I know you it's not what you meant,
but I'm not just talking to you. I'm
talking to women in general. Did you
watch the video Rebecca L Pope said
about
>> No.
>> Okay. She made a There's a black woman
on YouTube has a million views on this
video. The reason she stopped being a
matchmaker for women, black women, is
because of black women's unrealistic
standards. And one of the things she
said in the first three minutes was,
"Look, men don't talk like women. He's
not going to be your girlfriend, boo.
Men are direct. And if you expect men to
be this way or that way, they're going
to hurt your feelings all the time." And
that's the truth. That's just the way
men are. And here's the thing.
>> Black women more than any other group of
women talk like what you're saying. I
don't you never really hear this coming
from other groups of women. I certainly
don't hear it coming from Asian Chinese
women. Certainly didn't hear that
this not that they just and their men
and you think black men or something. I
would I think I think it would be
interesting if we could do like women
could go to deal with some Shanghai men
or some Cantonese men or go deal with
some old school patriarchal men. A lot
of sisters come running back to black
men like, "Oh god, I didn't know we had
it so good." Anyway, I need to get to
the next person, but thank you for
giving up your point. Okay, Grand uh
Grand Rising Marketing, go ahead. You
need to unmute yourself. I know she
didn't mean it, but again, it's part of
our culture.
Hello.
>> Yes, I'm here.
>> Oh, boy. Uh, how old are you?
>> I am 30.
>> Boy, I know you 30 year old folks need
to learn how to start working damn Zoom.
[laughter]
So, uh, what do you have on the topic
for me? What did I get wrong?
>> Um, you really didn't get anything
wrong. I just wanted a honest opinion
like,
um, okay. So, I, you know, I'm in my
30s. I just got separated with my
husband because he didn't want to move
up in like income wise. He's 42 and he
wanted to stay working and I wanted to
push him. Like I would do his resumes. I
would push him. I would be his
cheerleader. Then after a while,
>> you ain't even on the subject tonight,
are you? You just call in and ask me
what you want to ask.
>> I just want an opinion. I really do.
>> Well, you could have booked a one-on-one
advice session, paid me for it. Why
didn't you do that?
>> I did. I went online and the only one I
saw was like 400, right? That's what my
advice costs.
>> Oh, okay.
>> What I mean, excuse me. Don't you don't
think What What did you think?
>> No, I think your time is precious.
You're right.
>> I just didn't know. I thought it was
like
I don't know. I I listen to YouTube a
lot while I'm driving to work and I
didn't know
>> what you just said. You went to my
website and you saw it and you said,
"Oh, I ain't paying that. I'll just wait
till he has a show and I'll call in AND
ASK." OKAY.
>> NO, NO, NO. NO, NO, but just go ahead.
No, no, no. I got time. Go ahead. You
divorced your husband?
>> Yeah, we separated now because I was
>> How many kids do you have?
>> By him? None. I only have one.
>> Okay. But none by him. So he's a
stepfather to your child.
>> Yeah, but he he never I never made him
pay anything.
>> No, no, no, no. If you gonna do this, we
gonna do it my way.
He's a stepfather of your child. And you
divorced him? Where'd you go to college?
I went to I got my master's
um from national
>> a master's. Go ahead.
>> Yeah. But I'm working as a nurse now,
but I switched careers later because I
wanted to make more money for my
daughter.
>> And what did you do before you were a
nurse?
>> Um I was a social worker.
>> All right.
The jobs that the [clears throat]
remember the the high value men avoid
these women. So what's the problem?
What's the question? You you you stepped
away. you you divorced your husband or
separated because he just wasn't
motivated enough for you and your child.
So, what's the
>> Right.
Yeah. And I feel like I'm I think I'm a
solid seven.
>> There are no Okay. How tall are you?
>> Um I'm pretty tall. Like 56.
>> What dress size do you wear?
>> I wear a size 11.
>> And how much did you weigh?
Last time I checked it was like 145 150.
>> That's [ __ ]
>> I'm serious.
>> No, I'm serious.
>> Excuse me.
>> Okay. I'm an image consultant.
>> I understand male female sizing down to
the science.
You cannot be a size
you said 56.
>> Yeah. Like five size 11.
>> Yes. So it's either a 10 or a 12. So
you're closer to a 12. There's no way
you could be
>> I just I fluctuate a lot because like
during the summer
>> All right. Okay. So what you're not
going to do is you're not going to taco.
So you're 56. When's the last time you
weighed yourself?
>> A long like about almost a year or so.
>> Exactly. That's overweight women don't
weigh themselves. You're not
>> But I'm not overweight. I really look
lady. Look lady. I'm See, here's the
thing. If you can you hear me speaking?
>> Yes, I can.
>> That means if you talking over me,
you're doing it on purpose.
>> What is it you want to know from me?
>> I really just wanted a real honest
opinion. That's all I wanted to know. A
honest opinion because you can't go to a
lot of men and ask about their opinion
to make
>> my situation. Am I being too harsh? Am I
living?
>> I think you better go back to your
husband because if this is the way you
talk to men, you lucky you had a man
deal with you in the first place.
Where's the child's father?
>> Um, he's around
>> Where's the child's father?
>> He's in their life. He's he's he lives
in
>> father.
>> He lives in the same town as her, which
is outside of Chicago.
>> Where where's the child?
>> She's live she lives with me.
>> So where's the child's father? In
Chicago.
>> Yes. What does he do for a living?
>> Um, he's a loser.
>> He drives for a living.
>> He He drives Uber.
>> So, you got pregnant and had a child by
a loser.
>> Yeah.
>> You decided to separate from your
the the guy who was brave enough to be
the stepfather. What does he do?
>> Um, he's a janitor. He works very hard.
He's Yeah, he's a good guy.
>> No, but Yeah, but you separated from the
good guy.
Yeah, because right and Okay, so I'm
trying to tell you for real.
>> No, no. All right. So, you're 31 years
old. How old is your child?
>> She is She just turned 12 in July.
>> So, you got pregnant at 18 or 19?
>> Um, yeah. All right. I got pregnant.
>> Oh, you honestly think you're the [ __ ]
No, I don't think
>> you have a master's degree and a 12y old
kid, a nurse who had a baby by a loser
who drives
>> and you had the nerve to get rid of a
hardworking man for what? You think
there's going to be a better one out
there for you?
>> No, Kevin, I really I don't know if I
understand. Do you do Okay, I asked this
question, ma'am. Don't get upset, but
listen.
Is life easier with two incomes or one?
>> It's easier with two incomes.
>> So, why did you get rid of one? Because
did you think you were going to go find
somebody with another one?
>> Um, what I wanted. Yeah, I'll tell you.
Yes.
>> You won't.
Let me tell you why.
>> Cuz I
the way you just hearing what I've
heard, ma'am.
You had a baby by a loser.
>> Yeah, I did.
>> Then what man who's winning wants you?
>> But I I think if you like I'm really
sweet. I think I'm pretty attractive. I
think I'm pretty attractive.
>> I don't care. See, that's the thing. You
think
that that matters and it doesn't. What
matters is you let some you let a loser
impregnate you. you have a loser's child
then when you actually had a man who was
character enough to marry you.
Yes, he married you, right?
>> Yes. Uhhuh.
>> Then to be a stepfather to that child,
did he want children?
>> Um, he did. But did he want children?
Did he want children? Answer my
questions the way I asked them. Yeah, he
did.
>> Okay. And are you infertile?
No.
>> So he wanted children, but you wouldn't
have a child with him.
>> No, I
>> Right. So he had to take care of a
loser's baby, but you wouldn't even give
that man a child. And he had to nurse.
Listen,
>> take care of her.
>> Listen, woman,
you keep trying to see, you've told
plenty of women this [ __ ]
You're talking to a man now.
>> But I'm
>> You're talking to a man now.
You had a baby by a loser.
>> You expect people to give you and say,
"Well, she's young or whatever." No,
ma'am. It counts.
>> It counts. And that child is 12 years
old. And somebody had the courage
enough, the character enough to marry
you. And what did you give that man? You
didn't even give him the child that he
wanted, but he had to take care of
another man's child. That is Oh, Jesus
Christ. Did Did you guys live together?
>> And yes, and I pay most.
>> I don't give a [ __ ] if you paid most of
the bills. See, you still want to tell a
story from a woman standpoint. The man
had a job.
>> But go ahead, tell us a story the way
you want to cuz I want to I'mma teach a
lesson with this. See, what she wants to
do is tell us how great she is. See, I'm
a I'm a teenage I'm a teenage mother and
then I went and got a bachelor's and
then a master's. And see, I'm driven and
I'm motivated. Now, how much college how
many student loan debt are you in?
>> A lot.
>> I didn't ask you that. How much How much
debt are you in?
>> Um, last time I calculated I I just like
it was like 800,000.
>> 80,000. And how much do you make
annually?
>> I am making 65.
>> How much is your uh janitor boyfriend I
mean husband? I'm sorry. How much did he
make?
Um he just told me he showed me his
checks and he would bring on a like
overtime because it's a well
>> did he make?
>> Okay like 22 23 an hour depending on
what shift what did how long were you
guys married?
>> We were married n we were been together
nine years but we're married seven.
>> So you have had to file taxes. How much
money did he make?
>> We always filed separately.
When you were in school, were you
working full-time?
>> Um, I was working part time, which I
>> No, you were not. You were married while
you were in school. Yes.
>> Yes.
>> So, who paid the bills while your
married ass was in school?
>> Me and him.
>> No, he paid the bills. You were working
part-time.
>> No, but I was still paying bills.
>> Oh, Jesus Christ. Listen, this is this
and wonder why it's simple math, ma'am.
Could you have afforded to live and go
to school without him?
>> No.
>> Then when you then shush then when you
got your B then you got your bachelor's.
Uh did did he have a college degree?
>> Um I did that.
>> Did he have a college degree? Did he
have a college degree?
>> I don't know. We weren't together when I
got my bachelor's. I started over in
nursing. I got my RN later. So, I had my
masters.
>> All right. So, when you were Okay. You
said y'all been together how long? Nine
years.
>> Yes.
>> But you were married seven.
>> Yes.
>> You're 31.
>> Yes.
>> You've been together since you were 22.
>> Yes.
>> So, when you were in college for
undergrad, were you guys living
together?
>> Um,
no. No, I met him soon after I
graduated.
>> When did you you got married? After you
graduated from college?
>> Yes.
>> Right. And how much debt were you in
when you graduated from college?
>> A lot.
>> Right. And what age did you get married?
22.
>> Yeah.
>> Did you guys move [clears throat] into
an apartment?
>> Yes.
>> All right. And then he had a job as a
janitor.
>> Well, when we first moved in, he didn't
have a job, but I believed in him.
>> I don't give a [ __ ] He got a job.
Like you said, when you were in grad
school, you couldn't have done it
without him, could you?
No. When I was in
>> No, you couldn't. And let me guess. And
And And when did those student loan
payments start? When did you have to
start making payments? After grad
school?
>> Yeah.
>> So, you didn't have to make any payments
on your undergrad?
>> Yeah, I had to make payments on my
>> You had to make payments on the
undergrad. While you were in grad
school, right?
>> No, I it's on hiatus when you school.
>> So, after you got out of grad school?
>> Yeah.
>> And you graduated in grad school? What
year?
>> I don't even know. I'm just so tired.
I'm just so frustrated.
>> I don't want to hear this sorry sad
[ __ ]
>> I don't want to hear this sorry war is
me.
>> You're supposed to be my brother. You're
alpha.
>> I don't want to hear this cuz I'm tired
of I'm tired of black women like you
with a who done reproduced and had a
child and wants a goddamn excuse and
then get rid of good men because you
think you all that.
>> No, I don't.
>> I don't want to hear it. Ma'am, you
graduated with your masters in two
years.
>> Yeah.
>> All right. So you're roughly 24 25. That
means somewhere during your life after
you got a bachelor's and a master's that
no working janitor still had to pay some
money towards light rent food, your
college student loan debt and he doesn't
even have a degree. He had to spend
money putting food in your child's mouth
cuz it ain't his. He didn't even get
Shut up.
[snorts]
He didn't even get a child out of the
deal. He's paying for another man's
child who you called a loser. And then
you have the nerve just to come over
here talking about, "I divorced him cuz
he wasn't ambitious."
>> And then you gonna get out here on the
open dating market and tell this story.
You are a permanent side chick, ma'am.
You're a side chick because of your
character. I don't need to hear I don't
need to hear I don't need to hear the
rest of the story. I don't need to hear
how cute you think you are or how
special you think you are. I don't want
to hear any of this [ __ ] I'm so
sick of black women like this. Just just
think that cuz cuz she got a degree.
Remember, I got a degree and I'm a
seven.
I deserve a doctor. Now
it's these level up channels that do
this [ __ ] man.
And she is and she has practiced telling
this story to fe to women and suckers
for the longest.
Unmute yourself,
Andrea.
But let's do it.
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Luna,
>> do you have any sisters?
>> No.
>> Uh any any home girls or girlfriends?
Anything like that?
>> No, I do. Yes, I kind of do. But
>> who who do you talk to on a regular
basis?
Um, I have a friend, her name is Gigi,
but she's Puerto Rican and Dominican, so
her values are a little bit different,
but we can she understands me.
>> Uhhuh.
So, who do you talk to about this?
You don't you separated from him because
he wasn't ambitious enough.
>> Yes. Uhhuh.
>> Does he have a full-time job?
>> Yes, he does. So, how am So, how how
ambitious did he have to be?
>> I Well, this is the thing. I He wanted
to become a pastor. So, I I pushed him.
I did his resume. I showed him all these
different connections like Salvation
Army has like a training program because
he doesn't want to go to school. At the
time, he didn't. And so, after I
separated, he text me and said, and he
sent me a picture of him enrolling to a
pastoral program.
>> How ambitious did he need to be? How
much money did he need to make before
you stay married to him?
>> Um, I just wanted him to follow his
dream, which was to become a pastor.
>> Oh, so the way you helped him follow his
dream was by leaving.
>> He He did send me a picture of him.
>> You thought to help him was to abandon
him.
>> No, because I did every I did I did his
resume.
>> So So let let's let's play this out,
okay?
You want your daughter to be to be
uh top of her class, right?
>> Yes.
>> All right. So, the way you would
motivate her is by putting her out of
the house.
>> No.
>> Well, that's what you effectively did to
your husband.
>> But can I ask you a question?
>> Well, ma'am, did you follow the logic?
>> Yes, I did.
>> You You thought you would help him by
getting better by leaving him?
What part of what part of the marital
vow is that?
>> None.
>> Okay. Then why' you do it?
>> Because I'm gonna be honest. After
watching what is that show? Um, Alchemy.
Cuz me and him have been together for
seven years and he always wanted
>> um it was Tyler Perry. Alchemy or
something where uh she became bitter
because she stayed with him the whole
time. And then finally when
>> you're 31 years old, ma'am, you you you
broke your marriage up because of a
Tyler Perry show.
>> No, no, it's not because it it just
resonated with me because I
>> Have you had you sought therapy?
>> No, Kevin,
>> you're laughing, but I'm not. I'm dead
serious. I I got other things to do.
I'm talking to a 30 Listen,
>> I'm talking to a 31 year old mother of a
12-y old girl and talk about you
divorced your working husband
cuz you watched a Tyler Perry movie.
>> No,
>> I know. I listen very well, ma'am.
See, the problem you have is that I'm
saying I'm what I'm saying and I'm
paring it back and it sounds terrible,
>> right? It does.
>> But that's your life. So, you don't
mind?
>> Yeah, it is terrible.
>> Yeah, but you did it. See, you don't
mind doing it, but you don't want nobody
saying it.
And you honestly think you can drag this
[ __ ] to another man, and he's going to
be like, "Okay, cool."
>> But I I think, can I say one thing?
>> I think that honestly, I hope he finds
another woman who's going to have his
children instead of car instead instead
of taking care of yours and and and a
deadly.
>> But he didn't he didn't take care of
mine. I
>> I don't want to hear [ __ ] ma'am. If he
if he paid for if he paid rent, if he
paid anything in the rent, lights, food,
groceries, utilities, even if he paid
3%, he took care of your child. Shut up
with that [ __ ]
>> He did.
>> You're too foolish to even give him
credit for it.
>> That's why you don't That's why he's too
good for you.
You are sitting You are sitting here
saying that a man who is not your
biological child's biological father,
you did not even want to give that man
his own child, but he still had to pay
his portion of the bills, his portion of
the utilities, his portion of whatever
your child ate that food, right? Or did
she only eat the food that you brought
in the house? Did she only use the water
that you paid for? Did she only use the
lights in the room that you paid for? Is
that what you're trying to tell us? Is
that what you're trying to tell me?
>> Um,
>> no. But I I bought the groceries. I paid
the utilities. That's what I'm saying.
>> I don't give a [ __ ] ma'am. He So, what
was his money going?
>> What happened? What? We lived in a
>> What was his money going? So, he wasn't
paying nothing.
>> No, he was paying something then knock
it off. Ma'am, I'm moving on to the next
caller. You're just get seek some help,
lady.
You sound like you sound like you're
seriously you sound like you need
counseling and you sound immature.
You don't need to be you're somebody's
mother.
>> Yes.
But I I didn't really get to explain
myself
[clears throat]
talking is going to change something,
ma'am. It's not going to change
anything. I know I know exactly what I
need to know about this situation. I
don't need to know all the details. I
know that that man needs to find a
better woman.
I know that you said you had a baby by a
loser. And I don't know anybody I don't
know any woman who has a baby by a loser
that feel should be divorcing anybody
that's willing to help her take care of
any responsibility of I don't know any
woman who has a baby by somebody they
says is a loser should be walking away
from somebody who's willing to help her
take care of any part of that
responsibility. I don't know any woman I
don't know any woman who a man has
helped you get through grad school and
he's been there. He's helped take care
of your kid when you had to go to
school. He was there. I don't need to
hear [ __ ] ma'am. I don't need to hear
nothing. When you were going to school,
he was Who was there sitting with your
kid? He babysat. I'm quite sure he took
care of that dog.
>> No, he didn't.
>> All right, get off my phone. I really
don't care. I don't care. I really don't
care. You're right, ma'am. He's
horrible. He's horrible. You're right.
You're a victim. Good luck.
Out of here.
So guys,
see this is what I mean. These average
women,
somewhere in her mind, she thinks,
somewhere in her mind, she thinks, "Ooh,
what the heck is going on with my little
stream deck, man?"
There we go. That's for you, [crying]
lady. [music]
somewhere in her mind. Oh, no. See, he
really was he really wasn't good. And
yeah, right. Somebody Yeah. Can't wait
to get a hold of that.
Hello.
>> Hi. How are you?
>> I am well. And what part of the world
are you in?
>> New York. Uh
>> oh. Another New Yorker. New York City.
Um I I work there and I go to school
there. Yeah.
>> Okay. So what do you got on the topic?
>> So um I
have been focusing on my career very
heavily. All right.
>> The past four years. I'm 29 now. Like I
just turned 29.
>> Um and I've been on this career journey.
I find that men are not as attracted to
me. But
>> men are men men are not what to you?
>> Not as attracted to me or don't approach
me in the same way that they used to say
as when I was 25 or 24 even,
>> right? Um I don't look too different
though. Like I haven't aged much. I was
in the medical aesthetics field
together.
>> Something is breaking. Hold on ma'am.
Break. You're breaking up. Um
>> can you get a little bit? I can. So
basically you're been focusing your
career. you're 29.
Uh, and now men are not approaching you
like they used to approach you when you
were 25,
>> right? And um,
>> okay. So, what are you trying to,
>> you know, I find,
>> what are you trying to accomplish?
>> Right.
So, I find that now on the contrary, I
am in spaces where there are a lot of
highv value men. Um, but they will tell
me, "Hey, I find you attractive, but I'm
not taking it to the next step with
these men. And the ones that are
approaching me are the ones I don't
want." Um, and I just find that I'm
having like no success actually getting
on the dates.
>> All right. So, so let me stop you,
right? Let me ask you this. Are you in
New York City or not?
>> Yes, I I work and go to school. Is there
any way you can take me off Bluetooth or
speaker phone?
>> I I You're You're not on neither. No,
>> I mean, you don't have a headset to plug
in. Okay.
>> Um I can try. I can try.
>> Yeah, please. Yeah, go ahead.
>> Sure. Sure.
>> Um I'm not speaking to any men tonight,
so guys, when I when it's a men's show,
I'll let the men call in. tonight. It
says, "Ladies, call in."
And you know, this is a previous caller.
I I'm trying to be as compassionate as
possible, but when I'm hearing a a woman
that's just
again, the question I asked her that
defined everything, if you were not as
attractive as you are, would you be
asking for a man on that level? And she
said, "No.
That that that's it right there. Are you
here?
>> Yeah. Is it better?
>> That's better. Okay. So, here's the
thing.
You're 29 now. You're more more open to
the relationship or it's in the in the
cards right now because you're
>> danger zone,
>> but the men who are approaching you,
you're not interested in and the men
that you want aren't approaching you.
Let me ask you uh you've been focusing
your on your career. What do you do?
>> Um I'm a COO at a biotech startup and I
also work in global business
intelligence in the corporate world bio.
>> Okay. Okay. So you're a COO. So you're
this is on the IT side. All right. What?
Okay.
>> Strategy and IT. Yeah.
C is it not COO? I'm thinking CIO. It's
on the operational side.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. So, let me ask you why
relationships are why are they a
priority now at 29?
>> Um, I did definitely try to date around
as I was on my career journey and I just
found that I wasn't finding successful
matches. either the guys were not
serious or
>> have you approached Have you approached
your finding a mate with the same level
of intensity, focus, and discipline as
you have your career?
>> Oh, with the same int am I doing it with
the same intensity?
>> Yes. Um,
>> you're COO. You're a COO. Have you
approached finding a man with that kind
of focus?
Um, I recently started, but prior for
the past three years, no.
>> Okay. What's the longest relationship
you've ever had?
>> Um, a year. A little over a year.
>> How long ago was that?
>> When I was 18 to 19.
>> So, you are wholly unfit for
relationship.
You have no unfit. And listen what I'm
saying. You have been focusing on you.
You're a single woman living in New York
City living this Carrie Branch Shaw
life. That's great. But you have no
history of working or cooperating with a
high value man. And now because you're
in the danger zone now all of a sudden
you're turning back to men and saying,
"Hey, now I want now I'm ready to
schedule you in. I've got
>> danger zone.
>> I've got a slot here right now. I've got
these eggs that I need to use and now
I'm ready to go ahead." And it doesn't
work that way. It doesn't work. You're
an attractive woman. However,
you probably blew. There's a video I
made. You You likely have already met
your husband and you blew it. And many
women in your position have likely
already met suitable men you just didn't
have time for. And now you want a man
who's that you're interested in. Uh that
and is that based on a a job or an
income level?
Um, well,
>> the minute that you want, the minute
that you want,
>> how much do they make annually?
>> Um, it would have to be like 400 to 500K
plus. They'd have to
>> get the French toast out of here, lady.
>> Are you serious?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay, ma'am. But, okay. So, I need you
to I need you to pay attention. I'm
about to ask.
>> Yeah.
>> What would you rank yourself on a scale
from looks one to one to 10? And you
cannot use seven.
>> Okay. 1 to 10. I would rate myself like
a 8.5.
>> A what?
>> An eight.
>> 8.5.
>> Eight. Yeah.
>> Okay. Beyonce is an eight. You rank
yourself up there with Beyonce.
>> Um,
definitely when I everything, makeup,
heels. Yeah. I I'm pretty attractive, I
find.
>> Right.
But is that how you walk around every
day?
>> Not every day. No.
>> Right. You're an adjustable six.
>> Meaning you walk around cute, but you
can't be pretty. But please don't look
in the chat room.
>> Mhm.
>> Are you looking in the chat room?
>> A little bit. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I don't need you to do that. I'm
running the show and I'm not doing that.
Please shut please shut it down because
we're not going to have a conversation
because see you you this is what happens
when women become too successful. Wait
too long for relationship. You have
effectively priced yourself out of the
market.
You want a man on your income level.
Well, great man, but you don't have
skills on that level to attract a man.
that what you're trying to use to
attract a man is your career or your
job, your education or your degree, your
resources or your money.
Uh I don't sense the sexuality piece of
it. Everything that I said men don't
want at that level. You're leading with
that.
So you want a man who's in the in the
top one. You want to man in the top 1%
no not 1% 3%
of earners.
Okay. Then you got to ask yourself a
question as a COO if this is a business
if this is a business process question.
Why would a man who has the who is
wanted by
80 plus percent of women pick you?
80 80 or 80 to 90% of the women in the
room want him.
>> Mhm.
>> You're in line with 80 to 90% and they
all want him. Why should he pick you?
>> So, is this rhetorical? Should I answer?
>> No. No. It's it's it's a serious
question because that's the market.
>> Yeah.
Yeah. Um and definitely I do find that
um you know that
>> Okay. So so um where did you go to
college?
>> Um I went to um forom.
>> Okay. Forom. All right. So and did you
get any kind of graduate level degree?
>> Yeah form.
>> Okay. Uh masters or PhD?
>> Um masters.
>> All right. So, see,
you're the kind of woman I probably
would have went after. You and the
previous color, women that are in that
kind of looks range.
A lot of guys will be attracted to you.
But
how do you relate to a man who's making
that kind of money? What does he need
from his woman?
>> Right.
You got a company to run.
>> You want children?
>> Definitely 100%.
>> Say again.
>> 100%.
>> How many?
>> Uh, two. Maximum three. Yeah,
>> maximum three. How you going to can How
can uh the company you work for handle
you being out of work for 12 weeks?
>> Right. H
>> that that's a good question. I always
thought, you know, my family could help
and I could always hire help. Yeah.
>> Say say again, you broke up. You always
thought
>> I could I could always hire help and
family could always assist. Yeah.
>> So you're breaking up again. So you
basically thought that I have enough
money to I can throw money at the
problem.
>> Yeah. Basically,
>> no, you can't.
And this is the heart. And so when I do
these broadcasts, I'm not doing it to
hurt women. I'm doing it to flash a big
red sign that the men you want, you're
your head is down, you're building a
career, and now you're doing like Tommy
Lauren value. And they're like, "No, I
don't need forom COOs. I need uh NYU
graduate in English."
Who's on my program?
>> My undergrad was English. But but you
didn't but you didn't but you didn't do
it at 21.
>> Yeah.
>> The man the only men that you'd be
willing to deal with have to have at
least a seale title.
>> Yeah.
>> Those are the men I'm attracting. Like
the men I'm attracting they do own hedge
funds. They do own companies.
>> They own them that you're attracting but
you cannot keep them.
>> Right. And um your picture's not going
to go, but are how long are you
interacting with how long are you dating
before these things terminate?
>> Um typically I find that it's a
subconscious thing for me. I find
>> how long does it get to the point to
where how about this? Does it get to the
point to where it's physical?
>> No. No. I typically put them in the
friend zone. All right. Like cuz I don't
want to come on too forward.
>> All right. So,
>> and
>> so listen, listen, listen. So, again,
>> a man who 90 out of 100 women want,
who's had to go out and conquer the
world,
can't even get any loving.
Matchmaker is going to be your best bet,
man. And a matchmaker is going to have a
hell of a problem with you because you
earn too much, your title is too high,
and your expectations are astronomical.
And no one can tell you that you don't
deserve it. Any woman that you run into
in New York City will tell you, "You're
a Forom graduate. You're you're you're
graduate. You're a COO. You're this.
You're that." But yet they'll take
themselves home
to their husband who's working third
shift.
That's why I keep pressing this
highderee thing.
I mean
hedge funds and things like that. These
guys are playing in money. And um as
someone who lived in Manhattan, I lived
on 43rd between 10th and 11th of River
being Ben West, Riverbank West.
>> Yeah. Beautiful area.
>> Yeah. Yeah, I know. Door man and
everything. And uh I'm going tell you
the women that used to cycle in and out
of that place, sweetheart. Victoria
Secret models up there. I mean, you may
be an attractive woman, but you know
what's in New York City.
>> I do. Yeah.
>> That's what you're competing with.
>> And they're fun.
And they don't have a they don't have
six uh 7 am conference calls. They don't
have projections and budgets to get
through. They're not saying we got to
wait. That's not happening.
Um let me see if I can point you in a
direction.
>> For sure. In all likelihood,
your best opportunity, if it doesn't
come through a matchmaker,
is
somebody you went to college with,
somebody you grew went to school with,
and you guys just decided to make an
agreement,
a business arrangement.
Let me move it to the side. I've often
said if I decide to remarry, I will
either go get a younger woman because I
want children. I want a son. And if I
didn't, if I decided to get an older
woman, it would be because we have two
great
brands or lives that could come together
and it would make sense
at your position. This is a negotiation
cuz the the the talent the talent pool
for what you want is infiniteesimally
small.
And are you uh restricted to uh by race?
>> Um in some ways yes.
>> And what would you prefer?
>> Um I would prefer my own which would be
um Indian but
um you know a lot of them have to kind
of go by what mommy and daddy say. So
that also makes it tough. I sweet and I
hate [clears throat] to say dear holy
Jesus
Indian.
>> Mhm.
>> You're western.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Um
>> interesting logic puzzle, but it's it's
uh if if you were if you were if you
were if if you were a physician and this
person came into the ER and you had to
do triage
>> Mhm. Or actually, if you were if if this
patient were on the table, what would
your prognosis be?
>> Me looking at myself,
>> your situation,
>> um,
be a little bit more open to the men
that are
>> No, no. What What would you rank as
would you would you say this patient is
stable?
What position would they be in a stable,
neutral, critical?
>> Sure. Sure. Um, dating wise, I would say
that they're in a critical position
because the dating pool is very small.
>> All right. And then what would be the
prognosis for survival?
>> Prognosis for survival would be
adjusting lifestyle.
>> No, no. Percent percentages.
Percentages.
>> Percentages. Okay. If we were talking
adjustment.
>> Uhhuh. Whatever you call it. What would
it be? The prognosis for having the
outcome you want?
>> Um, 25% maybe.
>> 25% survival rate. No. Yeah, maybe less.
>> No, no, ma'am. You're in the single
digits.
>> You're in the single digit survival
rates because you're in the single
digits of men.
>> Roughly three out of 100 men make the
kind of money you're talking about
making. Three out of 100, not adjusted
for race, not adjusted for um
marital status, not adjusted for age,
not adjusted for sexual preference.
Mhm.
>> But thank you for calling in. I I I I I
And here's the thing. I feel empathy for
for women like yourself because our
country has lied to so many women. Get
out there, get your degree, go work,
enjoy your life, get your career,
travel, do such and so forth, and then
when you're ready to settle down, get
married. As if it was that easy. as if
you could just stop on a dime and turn
around and after 10 years of doing all
this stuff, turn around and there'd be
all these guys out here.
And you know, I would love to hear more
women like yourself who 10 years ago, if
you would have had this kind of mindset,
you'd be in a completely different
place.
>> That's what needs to happen. We need to
stop this crap cuz we are we're making
so many women who could be happily with
somebody
uh spinsters.
It's not fair. See, I'm a man. I can
have several lives. I can decide to go
have get married again right now. And
even people like why would you listen to
guy that's been divorced twice. You
listen to Steve Harvey. He's been
married four times. But I can still
decide to do it and be successful. I can
do that. But a lot but women you don't
have that because women control access
to sex, men control access to
relationship. And the kind of men you
want are rare
by definition.
>> Mhm.
>> All righty. Thank you.
>> Hello.
>> Hey. How are you?
>> I'm good, thank you. How are you?
>> All right. How old are you?
>> I'm 29.
>> Okay. Hey, what did I get wrong on the
subject?
>> Um, I don't think you've gotten anything
wrong on the subject. Um, I actually
tuned in a little late. My sister had to
call me and like, Kevin's on, so I
didn't hear the whole the whole
conversation. But you're you're usually
pretty spot on. Um, I just have a
question.
>> Okay.
>> Um, let me start with my my my little uh
my profile.
>> Well, hold on. But what is your is your
question about the topic or is your
question about your personal life? No,
it's it's definitely about the topic.
>> Okay, just give me your question first.
>> Okay, so um I do notice that there is I
um you often mention like a pattern of
behavior and thought processes in um a
majority of black women and I'd have to
say that I can't disagree with you. Um
however, I do think there's another um
prototype of a black woman and I think I
kind of fall more so into that category.
So, I do know that there's a lot of
black women that think um black men
don't necessarily um can't necessarily
vibe with them and live up to their
standards and what have you, but there's
also a version of the black woman that
is um I guess has low self-esteem and
just tries to take whatever she can get.
And I think that I fall into that
category. And I don't do I don't really
do a great process of vetting black men
because I do want to submit to a man, a
black man. I do want a black man to
lead, but every man um isn't qualified
for that role.
>> What do you mean take what you can get?
You're how old? 29?
>> Yeah, I'm 29.
>> And you say take what you can get. It
means basically
any guy that comes along or what?
>> Not any guy that comes along. Any guy
that I see potential, but that's like a
dangerous word, potential,
>> you know, you got to be really careful
with that. And as I get older,
Okay.
>> I do as I get older, I'm I'm more privy
to the potential thing that's a
dangerous game to play.
>> Okay.
All right. So,
you're worried you're going to submit or
pick the wrong guy because your
self-esteem is low?
[clears throat]
>> I have in the past and I admit I know
I'm in the danger zone.
>> Okay. So, if that's the case, have you
gone to seek counseling and therapy?
>> I have not.
>> All right. Well, then you're going to
continue to repeat the same things until
you know why you're doing it and stop,
>> right?
>> Ma'am, the world does not owe you or me
understanding.
If you or I know our issues, it is
responsible for us to do. We're
responsible for doing something about
them.
If you know you have an issue of picking
quote unquote men who are not worthy,
then do something about it.
>> Absolutely.
>> That's a pretty simple fix. But let me
ask you, are you uh did you go to
college?
>> I didn't.
>> I didn't graduate. I didn't graduate.
So,
are you a woman that wants to to to live
another one of these high-end middle
class lives, stay at home wife, three
kids kind of thing?
>> Um,
>> I mean, just
>> Yeah. I mean, it'd be nice. I'm
realistic.
>> Here's the thing, though. Are you on
that looks level?
>> I was and I fell off, but I'm getting
back on track.
>> What does that mean? What does that
mean? You were, then you fell off. See,
attractive women tend to not fall off
until they get something that they want.
How much do you weigh?
>> I weigh 185.
>> And how tall are you?
>> 5'5.
>> And on a scale of 1 to 10, what would
you rank your looks? You can't use
seven.
>> Face is a face is a nine.
>> You give yourself Kelly Roland.
>> Yes. I'm dark skinned. I always get um
comments about how I should plusize
model.
>> All right. But but here's the problem. I
can't see Kelly Roland getting to be 190
pounds without a wedding ring that's
babies.
>> I know I She ain't never got that big.
>> Well, because because women who usually
are really that attractive realize that
their looks open doors and get them what
they want. I just take it as what you
say, ma'am. I can't verify the camera's
not on. Even if I say I believe you,
this is all on you, man.
>> All on you. So, it ain't about black
men. uh seek therapy like I always say
and you don't have much you don't have
any time to waste.
>> It's true.
>> All right. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
>> Byebye.
>> Bye.
>> The reason I was so harsh and direct
with that woman in Chicago,
it's not mean folks. It's the fact that
She has really deluded herself.
No one was going to sit back and say he
is a good man. He was a working man. He
just needed to do more. All right. See,
does anybody think
that she would have had the kind of
attitude she had if she didn't have a
master's degree? I mean, cuz like again,
let's be real. She wasn't rich. I mean,
she was barely middle class, right?
She ain't balling.
Knocked up at 18 and somebody went ahead
and took that and there for nine years.
You, ma'am, you won the damn lottery.
You're a fool. You're a fool.
You're foolish. Now, I don't say you're
a fool. You're foolish to walk away. But
life gonna show you. life's gonna show
you because you know that little girl
has grown somewhat attached to that man.
And the worst thing, this is why so many
men don't want to be the quote unquote
cleanup man or deal with baby mamas.
This is why highv value men, if you got,
if you're a baby mama, you do not exist
to high value men. Highvalue men will
never wife you.
I would say it is such an infiniteimally
small number. It does not even count.
You a baby mama and a bonafide highv
valueue man. They don't want that
situation.
Now we're going to touch on that one
again because average women and highv
value men piss women off. We got to talk
about this single mama stuff too. You
want to you want to really keep yourself
in the middle below average or average
have a kid without a wet lot. You
basically signed up to be one of the
three black women who don't marry.
That's what it comes down to. All right,
folks. We got to get up out of here. I
got to cut that those little segments
out of this show, man.
Oh, I can't believe that little danger
zone crap played. I hate when it does
that. Um,
all right, man. We got to get up out of
here. Thank you guys for tuning in. The
show ran long, but I gotta go. Got to be
over this two hours. So, I'm going to do
an edit to this show and put it back up.
Put the show back up. Put the show back
up. But until then, guys, till tomorrow
or whenever.
Peace.
We are.
Y'all know what it is.
Oh, I'm [music] sick of that crap. I'm
getting rid of those songs.
What [music] was that?
[music]
>> In this moment.
>> Yes.
>> I cannot say what's wrong or right.
[singing and music]
>> No,
it's not hard to fool me. No, cuz I'm
addicted to the good [music and singing]
life.
Lead the way [music]
I follow. No need to say [singing]
no.
>> Where we are heading now, [music] babe.
I follow
to the edge of [singing] it all.
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So tell you,
>> email your [music] show ideas info@ my
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>> or
[music]
>> go to Kevinson.com.
Pick your oneonone
guys. [music] I'm telling you right now,
you send me an email with this long
rambling. I'm [singing] not reading
them. I'm deleting them. I'm blocking
them. [music]
>> Service, please.
I'm not going to talk [music]
[singing]
>> beforehand
my child. [music]
[music]
>> You heard that woman. I'm sorry.
No [music] need to say no to where we
are heading. [music and singing]
Avoid cheap women, gentlemen.
[music]
>> Avoid cheap women.
>> So tell your good [music]
wife. [singing]
Yeah,
[music]
susceptable
moment.
[music]
>> [music]
[music]
>> In this [singing] moment,
yes, I cannot say what's wrong or right.
[music and singing]
No,
it's not hard to fool me. No, [music]
cuz I'm addicted to [singing] the good
life.
>> Yeah,
lead the [singing] way.
I follow. [music] No need to say
I follow.