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Eli Roth Uses AI In Ice Cream Man

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The video discusses Eli Roth's film *Ice Cream Man* and its controversial use of artificial intelligence in certain animated sequences, sparking a debate about the ethics and practicality of AI in filmmaking. While some critics have harshly judged the movie solely based on this decision, the speaker argues that such criticism is hypocritical because many creators themselves rely heavily on AI tools without admitting it. The narrator admits to having mixed feelings toward AI; while he personally finds fully automated content generation distasteful and potentially exploitative of human labor, he recognizes its immense value as a productivity tool for legitimate asset creation tasks like filling empty spaces in graphic design or populating large crowds in fantasy scenes. To illustrate the practical benefits, the speaker shares his experience as both a movie reviewer and a web developer who uses AI features within Photoshop to instantly generate background elements that would otherwise take hours of manual labor to create manually. He compares this modern convenience to how artists once used clip art or stock libraries from CDs in the past, arguing that technology should be embraced to make an artist's job easier rather than feared as theft. In his view, using AI for asset population does not inherently replace human creativity but instead streamlines repetitive tasks, allowing professionals like himself and potentially Eli Roth to focus on higher-level creative decisions while saving significant time and resources. However, the speaker draws a sharp distinction between efficient tool use and what he perceives as an abuse of technology when entire scenes or assets are generated without proper oversight or regard for original creators' work. He criticizes those who claim AI is "trash" yet simultaneously generate their own thumbnails using similar tools, calling this behavior hypocritical since the underlying fonts and graphical treatments still originate from existing works rather than being created ex nihilo by the machine itself. The current lack of regulation in this space creates a chaotic environment where companies can pull resources indiscriminately to assemble content quickly, which raises ethical concerns about intellectual property and the displacement of human artists who might otherwise be hired for these tasks. Ultimately, the speaker concludes that while he does not defend Eli Roth's specific execution or quality of work, anyone with the financial means should hire skilled professionals rather than relying on unregulated AI generation to ensure a better final product. He acknowledges deeper systemic issues such as the environmental cost and energy consumption required to run massive data centers for these models but suggests those are complex topics best addressed separately. His stance is one of balanced pragmatism: he will call out obvious abuses when they occur while also pushing back against overly vicious criticism that ignores the many variables involved in modern production, inviting viewers to share their own perspectives on where the line between helpful tool and unethical replacement should be drawn.
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I don't know if it's a blessing or a curse for Eli Roth that he's in the uh ether right now being talked about. Not because Ice Cream Man is this great triumphant tour day force of a film, not based on the original or the comic. It's just its own shitty thing, but because of the utilization of AI in a couple of scenes of the flick. What scenes are using it? Unclear kind of because he's been very uh cy about the whole thing. Nicholas KG, you could say. I don't I don't know why you would say that, though. In a recent interview, he bragged about how he had some animated sections of the film, old tiny callbacks that he did, and he freehanded some of the sketches for them. He then gave them to an animation company to do the rest of the work. Well, in a follow-up conversation, he admitted that he actually utilized AI to do some of the animation to make it as silky, buttery, smooth as it could possibly be. Naturally, the internet has reacted exactly how one would expect by scorching Earth. Movie critics have been giving the film ones out of 10 based solely on the concept of using AI. I hate to break it to some of those critics, but it's being utilized a lot more than people think. How do I know this? Because it would be stupid for them not to. Now, before you throw a [ __ ] fit and cancel me and say this is a stupid opinion, HOW DARE YOU? HOW DARE you embrace AI? I I kind of hate it. Okay, I'm not I'm not a fan of AI in a lot of ways. There are practical implications to use it, though. Now, believe it or not, this is not my full-time job. I mean, it's it's one of two. I I do uh movie reviews. I'm a I'm a certified critic, yes, but I also am a web developer and front-end designer. I've been doing that for far longer even. And that's the thing that actually really pays the bills. In that profession, I'm often tasked to make banners for some major companies. And what they will give me are 4x3 images that do not scale properly to fit those dimensions. So what did Adam have to do years earlier? Well, he had to take out the clone brush and he had to kind of fake the graphic going out further, extending the road, extending the cacti or the mountain range or whatever it might be. Or he would go on Google, find another photo that was similar, plop that one in, and blend the two together, making a full banner that would inevitably be darkened and then some text would be on top. So, it's just kind of window dressing. I bring this up because Adam today harnessing the power of AI built directly into Photoshop can now put that banner dimension out there, lay the photo in, select the dead space, and just hit generate and watch as it populates not one but tray options for me to choose from. Filling in the canvas in a matter of seconds. Something that normally would have taken me an hour to populate properly is done in the snap of a finger. That's incredible technology. It's impressive. It has saved me countless hours of mindn numbing [ __ ] work. And that way, I'm freed up to do other things. I would be an idiot not to utilize this technology, much like my peers years ago would be fools not to utilize a thing we called clip art back in the day. Clip art were these crappy graphics and images and whatnot that would be stored on CDs. later they would be out on uh servers and you could just pull them down. They might be icon libraries that you could edit, recolor, you know, change a little bit to theme to your your uh specific client's needs. They might just be a photo library of stock imagery that you can use. How there's stock image libraries all over the place. My point is technology is constantly advancing and growing and it should be utilized as a nice tool for the artist to pull from. In my example, I am the artist. I have not taken work away from someone else. I have just made my job easier. So when I say that AI can be used and should be in movie terms, what I'm looking at mainly is asset creation, asset population. Take a movie like Lord of the Rings for instance, where you might have armies of thousands of trolls in different uh walks of life. In the past, they would just copy and paste that [ __ ] They would take real humans, select the first couple rows, they would freaking command V that [ __ ] copy paste it, bloop, spread them around, or they would have real people in the front, then CGI them in the back, add costumes and whatnot. In either case, there's always going to be tools used to speed up the process and ease the pain that the animators have to deal with. Now, in Eli Roth's case, what it sounds like he did is he just had AI build out the entire animation sequence, which is later in the film, and it looks like ass, and it's terrible, but the movie is terrible regardless. One can argue that he did take work away from a real animator in this instance. Not only that, he had the computer just straight up rip off assets from wherever it deemed fit. So, I do believe this is different and it is an abuse of what AI could do and should do. Like the people that are now making fullyfledged AI movies, they're just telling the computer where they want the camera, who they want in the film, how the movie should look, and what the computer does is it pulls assets and resources from different things, blends them together into this [ __ ] sandwich. I hate it. I don't champion it. I don't like it. I think it's gross. I also think it's incredibly hypocritical when I do see some of my peers out there complaining about AI and and saying it's trash and it shouldn't be used, but then I look at their thumbnails and they clearly generated them using AI AI text, AI versions of themselves of posters. I do find it to be a tad hypocritical. Now, you could push back and say, well, if they were going to make the thumbnail themselves anyways and they were never going to hire an artist to do this stuff, then what what's the issue? Well, the issue is I guess again it's pulling at the the AI is not creating it itself. It is pulling from other works. The fonts, the the graphical treatments, it's coming from somewhere or it's being repurposed in a different way to make it somewhat unique, but not really. We are in the wild west with this stuff. There seems to be very little regulation, if any at all. And I don't see this getting better anytime soon. For me, it's just kind of a common sense approach. I will call out the [ __ ] when I see it, as I see it, which doesn't necessarily mean it's right or wrong. And I will push back when I think people are being way too over-the-top, way too vicious, because it's easy to do so from afar to point the finger and say, "How dare you take away work? How dare you take away food off the table?" Like, there's just a lot of variables that are involved. And this is not me defending Eli Roth. I don't I don't give a [ __ ] I don't know what he actually did as far as the AI goes. If he took work away, that is crappy. And I do think you should hire that stuff out if you're a person in his position. You have the money, you have the vision, so just get someone to do it properly. It's going to lead to a better product anyways. So, we all win. I kind of only scratched the surface as far as this conversation goes. You can get into the ethics of it all as far as the servers that are required to run all this slop and the fact that cities are having to pay for it. We're having to pay for these farms. I think people would gladly say [ __ ] no and just shut the whole experiment down for the most part. But we don't get a say. We don't get that option. But that's maybe a deeper conversation for another time. 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