Video summary
The hosts begin by addressing the broader context of The CW's recent strategic moves, noting that acquiring *Babylon 5* rights serves as a risky gamble following significant declines in viewership for flagship shows like *The Flash*. This discussion naturally transitions into their review of the upcoming crossover event "Armageddon" and the controversial transition from Ruby Rose to Mary Elizabeth Williams as Batwoman. While they acknowledge the character's memory loss plotline, the group expresses mixed feelings about the recasting, which sets a tone of dissatisfaction that permeates their critique of the episode "Kane Kate."
Central to their frustration is the show's handling of its characters and writing, particularly regarding the abrupt dismissal of Jacob Kane. The speakers argue that the writers showed no respect for his character, effectively ruining him after just one episode by ignoring the emotional impact on loyal fans who had invested in his journey. This sentiment extends to other beloved figures like Luke Fox, whom they feel has been "super ruined" despite his potential as a badass character, and Alice, whose recent storyline is criticized for being boring and mishandling her past actions, such as the murder of a bystander in Season 1. The hosts also express exhaustion with Alice's redemption arc, feeling that the show fails to utilize these characters properly to resolve storylines before writing them out.
The episode review further highlights grievances with production quality and plot logic, specifically mocking low-budget CGI effects and awkward scenes involving perfume torture and crossbow usage. The narrative is criticized for corruption under Black Mask's influence, which feels unearned given the show's reliance on "faux" versions of Batman villains like Bane rather than utilizing established characters effectively. Additionally, the hosts point out glaring plot holes where characters survive fatal injuries without logical consequences, undermining the stakes of the confrontation between the original and new Batwoman as she retrieves the Batcave.
Despite their current dissatisfaction with the series' direction and the show's reliance on questionable villain introductions like Mr. Freeze, the group anticipates a potential Season 3 revival if the network decides to continue the franchise. They joke about the possibility of the show continuing indefinitely or being cancelled soon, noting that future reaction videos might not be produced until years later if it survives. Ultimately, the segment concludes with a humorous reference to filling a car with lava, signaling their final sign-off while leaving viewers with a sense of weary amusement regarding the show's uncertain future.
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Welcome to the penultimate woman.
>> Hello.
>> I say that as if [ __ ] next season
isn't out like tomorrow or whatever.
>> I re I recently found out that WWE was
on the CW network for a while. That was
surprising to hear.
>> I can't believe they freaking Babylon 5,
the reboot to CW. Is is CW just the
trash fire network that they're like,
"Yeah, just throw it on there, I guess."
>> Now that the atmosphere is hospitable to
make Daxim great again.
>> Dax was never great. I got to tell you,
it was perfect.
They've been around for a long time.
>> Do you think they're taking a big risk
here? Like this is their big gamble buy.
Do you think they're having issues maybe
or they have to really start planning
ahead for the future?
>> Well, Supernatural was the cash cow,
right?
>> Well, cuz that went for like 15 years,
so it must have been making them tons of
money.
>> I think they only stopped just because
they were like, "Fucking hell, when are
we stopping?"
>> I guess we'll stop now.
>> Apparently CW Network is 50% owned by
Warner Row, so I think they're fine.
whatever they did,
>> 50% Warner Brothers, 50% Viacom.
>> Well, if nobody watches their shows,
they probably
>> W stands for
>> they'd probably still be uh dissolved if
nobody was watching their shows, right?
And I think that they've lost viewers
significantly over the past few years,
as far as I'm aware anyway.
>> I mean, that doesn't surprise me. Like,
>> their lineup isn't particularly diverse
in terms of like like if if you don't
like shows that are made for like
teenage girls, then there's nothing to
watch on this network. Well, it also
goes as far as saying I think that even
the Flash Arrow and different things
have all suffered over the years. Cuz
when the Flash first came out, the show,
I remember watching episode one and
being like, "That was fine.
>> Is this supposed to be a joke?
>> You tell me."
>> But nowadays, if you see the clips,
you're like, "Fucking hell, what is
this?" Like, what have you done?
>> Right? Like, it's it's the network has
developed a reputation for like really
[ __ ] quality. And so, why would you want
to watch? And also like I just pulled up
the average ratings for the Flash. They
started at 4.62 million and they're now
down to 1.58 million.
>> That is that is that is significantly
lower.
>> That's part of my thought here is that
they have just they they've seen their
numbers declining over these years and
they're like, "Oh, we need we need to
try and do something big. We need to
really kind of almost make like a gamble
buy." And so they bought the rights to
Babylon 5.
>> Did they buy the rights? So did Babel 5
is that owned is that owned by Warner
Brothers or like
>> maybe maybe owned by Warner Brothers
television so they they
using this as a big budget thing.
>> Um no cuz they could do a HBO Max show
if they really wanted to.
>> Babylon 5 seems like a HBO Max thing but
maybe I
>> It does seem like a HBO Max thing. Yeah,
but I guess if you've got this network
and you need content for it, then
Babylon 5 you're like, h, you know, like
that's not HBO Max material.
>> As weird as it sounds, I understand
Buffy's reboot ending up on the CW. It's
like, yeah, of course, but Babylon 5 is
like that's a huge production. I don't
understand.
>> Are they going to give it a big budget?
Well, that's the question.
>> That is the question
>> because I feel like something like the
sci-fi stuff that takes place in space a
lot of the times, you know, especially
nowadays, like you could get away with
Star Trek, the original series, and
maybe TNG and stuff, but I think viewers
are a little bit more they expect a bit
more out of sci-fi these days, I feel.
>> I think it's just television in general.
I think uh the bar has been raised in
terms of production values like Game of
Thrones, Breaking Bad, all those shows
sort of raise raised the bar.
>> I was going to say like you even
superheroes stuff it's can be difficult
for CGI artists to get everything
realized and as we saw with uh Infinity
Tisms like they are barely capable of
doing that.
>> And I guess I think all of this stuff
isn't particularly good but you just
present somebody hey you want to watch
like Falcon the Winter Soldier that
looks like a movie or do you want to
watch Legends of Tomorrow that looks
like a PlayStation 2 game? You know, the
irony there is all that can save them is
the writing at that point.
>> Well, the writing the writing could save
them.
>> Terrible. Yeah,
>> but it's terrible. Terrible.
>> Yeah, they don't have anything going for
them. Nothing. They have nothing.
>> Marvel at least has production values.
Like
>> it fools a lot of people.
>> It It definitely is effective cuz when
it looks like crap, like what am I meant
to do with this? It just looks so cheap.
>> An anti monitor fight right now. Just
>> Yes. Please just remember that when he's
there fighting them all and try to grab
him like, "No, get away from me."
>> No.
>> They're fighting in the that little
industrial area. Vancouver's in the
background.
>> How come there's not been another
teamups episode?
>> I think um there's going to be a team up
episode this upcoming round. Maybe it's
cuz co stuff made it difficult.
>> Will we have to watch a series of
episodes from other shows and stuff or
>> that I think that's that's the idea,
right? There will be a crossover and so
then we have to watch it to understand.
>> It is a funny adventure to do that every
time. I remind you guys,
>> let me look that up.
>> We still have an episode of uh Ruby Rose
Batwoman that we have not seen.
>> What?
>> Cuz of her her um collaboration for an
Elseorld's episode. We never saw it.
>> Oh yeah, Elseorlds. That was a that was
a thing. We could go back and watch
that. I feel like we'll do that after
season 3 is if it gets cancelled, we can
be like the final episode we cover is
the one we missed with good old Ruby
Rose.
>> Can't believe there might be another
season after three.
>> I'm I'm shocked they got a third.
>> So, okay. So, apparently the next
crossover is called Armageddon.
>> Oh boy.
>> We had Crisis and now we got Armageddon.
>> Crisis of infinite universes and now
Armageddon. You're like, "Okay,
>> we we went from all of the multiverse,
entire universes being destroyed, and
now it's like, man, what are you doing?
Armageddon? That's nothing. That's
lame."
>> Do you remember when they like formed
their little [ __ ] tier Justice League,
and then nothing came of that, and we
just never saw that again.
>> That was right before CO. So, they were
like, "Let's do a" And then they lost
Ruby Rose as the paragon of was it
courage?
>> Yeah.
>> Guess the new Kate has to do that job
now.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Oh, yeah. Cuz she's still the paragon.
>> Yeah. You can't write her out of that.
She has to be the paragon of courage
still.
>> Yeah.
>> Can she give it up to Ryan or whoever
the [ __ ]
>> I passed the mantle of paragon of
courage to you.
>> I was about to say surely they can't. I
was like, "Wow, it's a CW."
>> Wow.
>> According to their own rules, it's an
it's an intrinsic element of their
being. Yeah.
>> But
>> Oh. Uhoh.
Why do we write that? Oh no. Oh gosh. We
shouldn't have like abused our actors.
>> Oh, they could remember they could get
the book. They could get that book and
then um Oh yeah. And then
that's right.
>> Go and let her kill another Batman.
>> I stand by him looking like an NPC in a
mobile game giving you instructions with
his little book like press the blah blah
blah blah blah blah. It's like Yeah.
Remember when he just gets punched by
Smallville Superman? It's like oh
>> I remember that. Yeah.
>> He's apparently coming back. Do you know
that?
>> I feel like I've heard about this but I
don't know context. I've only seen like
a vague article, but I was just like,
well, CW, do whatever you can, I
suppose. Speaking of
>> CW, I guess.
>> Yeah.
>> What
>> are you guys ready to watch?
>> Sure. Let's [ __ ] do it.
>> I'm ready.
>> All righty. Well, as the viewers may
already know from the title, we're up to
episode 17. It's called Kane Kate.
>> It does say Kane Kate.
>> Is that
>> I don't know.
>> Maybe we'll find out by watching it.
>> Um, it doesn't matter. Yeah, we're
pretty excited cuz this is the two
episodes left. You know, anything could
happen now. These shows do crazy things
when they hit finales.
>> Oh, are we going to are we going to take
a little guess as to how Jacob leaves
the show?
>> I think he's already done.
>> I think they've done it. Yeah, he's
going to be moved to a different city
and we won't see him again.
>> Oh, okay. I think that was it.
>> Yeah, I think that's it.
>> Oh, wow.
>> Well, that's not good.
>> Oh, yeah. No, right.
>> I guess that's I guess worse fates could
have befallen Jacob. They could have
killed him and shhat on him.
>> Literally had someone poop on him. for
being a terrible white man. This show's
got really uh that angle has been pretty
strong lately.
>> This season's been pretty bad for that.
Yeah. So, season 3 is probably worse.
>> Can't imagine why people aren't watching
this video program.
>> Wonder if Alice will be fully redeemed
and a hero by the end of this season.
Maybe it'll take another one.
>> Oh, they're working for it. That's what
they want.
>> Ocean finally definitely died.
>> Are you sure about that?
>> Come back.
>> Are you sure about that? I I really
don't know. We [ __ ] joked about how
many times he died in the episode. He
definitely definitely died. So,
>> can can the desert rose flower? Can it
bring people back for the dead?
>> I don't know. Remember, she killed bad
actress as well.
>> Yeah, just like that. Also died like two
times before.
>> I'm going to miss it.
>> Stay dead in this goddamn show.
>> Except mouse and creepy skin who both
had loads of potential
>> compared to everyone else.
>> Yeah, they got rid of them quick. At
least they killed Catherine. She was a
really bad actress. I almost want them
to stay actually. Just the bad actors.
They they abused me. Well,
>> um yeah. And okay. Yeah, we're in a post
Luke Wants to Die world. So, let's go
ahead and up and we could watch this
episode.
>> Adventures ahead.
>> Go. You guys [ __ ] believe we've
watched almost two seasons of a show
that's just terrible.
>> No, I can't.
>> Rebirth Restorative Mascara.
>> Let's watch. Oh my god. Batoman.
>> Okay.
>> Damage. Batoman.
>> I was about to
>> just punched him.
>> I'm sure it's fine. They're all
villains. You
>> can punch him. He's black.
>> That guy.
>> I'm looking for a missing woman.
Brunette, high cheekbones. Looks an
awful lot like your covergirl over
there.
>> I don't know.
>> Well, what about your boss, Roman
Cionis? Sometimes likes a side hustle as
black mask.
>> I'm just a security guard.
>> What if he doesn't?
>> Oh. Oh, okay.
>> Machine pistol. It's a little rich for a
reneop.
>> That's not a machine pistol.
>> The ammo is standard issue false.
>> False.
>> Fosaced.
>> Phosphate or false? Right. False.
>> Find out if your boss is Oh, right. Cuz
that's what they're called.
>> I ain't telling you anything.
>> He's spraying mascara in his face.
>> I mean, it's annoying to have perfume
sprayed at you over and over again. I
guess.
>> I guess. Yeah.
>> It's a weird torture method, but all
right. Did you leave Did you leave a
bullet in the chamber? I forgot. Cuz if
you just take out the magazine, there's
still one.
>> Yeah, she's tortured him with perfume.
>> All right. All right.
>> He's already given up. You give up
spraying a perfume.
>> And you believed him?
>> What did you want me to do? Go through
the entire product line.
>> She's so funny and quirky.
>> 20 miles have aditted.
>> What are you wearing? What the [ __ ] is
that? You're wearing like a a blimp. Is
that Wait, is that a blimp? Is that
>> the camo curtain?
>> I don't understand. I just
>> tent and awning store. She can inflate
herself and fly away.
>> Fly away.
>> Hey.
>> Oh,
>> now what are we doing?
>> Is this the Oh, it's Kate Pain.
>> She got a dead soldier.
>> No.
>> You know, you know some guy called that
that they had the sound effect.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Don't worry about it. No, no safety
happens.
Yum. Yum. Yum.
>> Did she bail last episode? No. That's
how we get her back.
>> Mary,
you remember? How do we know each other
again?
>> Cuz she's not the same actress. It's
like, is it finally working?
>> Weird. It was awkward.
>> Baby steps.
>> Useful way to catch up the audience who
unfolds campaign. You'd expect the only
people to be watching are maybe the ones
who have hung around.
>> But we got her back. So, yay.
>> Definite yay, guys.
>> Definite yay.
>> She went from attacking Mary to ditch to
treating half the lesbians in Gotham to
an open bar.
>> Half the lesbians in Gotham. Man, half
of Gotham.
>> Wow. If I found out my memory had been
wiped and then reprogrammed into a dead
supermodel, I'd go on a 12-hour bar
crawl, too.
>> If the fact that you had to ride it like
this,
>> Yeah. To be fair, they took a whole
season to to try and do this.
>> Yeah,
>> dudes. They took their time.
>> They did.
>> Oh, no. I don't care.
>> Oh, no.
>> Favorite character.
>> No, not you two.
>> Wait, what? Wait, what? How are you?
>> Why are you here,
>> Alice? He's gone.
>> No, he's not.
Save his life or yours is over.
>> Was that Did that audio clip? Did you
notice that? Like the it got quiet when
you said over like they had
>> Yeah, that sound effect.
>> Also, I think she just established the
he can't be saved by this flume plant.
They
>> don't have it anymore.
>> Well, but they do have some of them
don't. I I know he's dead, but like it's
worth mentioning that, I guess.
>> Why are you here? Oh
>> yeah. Why are you here?
>> I'm sorry.
>> That one note acting she does.
>> I just came to thank you.
>> Is this just Alice's layer now? This
train
>> for saving her.
>> I guess so.
>> Remember when she had a
>> like gang? Yeah, I was about to say,
remember when she had a whole [ __ ]
>> Look what it's cost me. Go [ __ ]
yourself.
>> Yeah. Like I don't care.
>> Nobody cares about ocean.
>> Yeah. [ __ ] you. Piece of [ __ ]
>> [ __ ] hell.
>> Yeah.
>> I hate you. Die in a fire. She won't
though.
>> That's a problem.
>> She'll be amazing and perfect.
>> I thought he was going to be gone. I was
going to be like, "Wait, what?"
>> He He ascended into heaven
>> like Virgin Mary
>> here in the background like, "No, he's
alive. What is
>> the steps?"
>> Hey guys,
>> Kate's not okay.
>> Really?
>> Can't rush this.
>> She's never been okay.
>> I know Kate. I mean, she survived gas
attacks, a bomb throwing bird. A chick
who thought she was a vampire throwing a
bird.
>> I like how Luke's just back to normal,
by the way.
>> Yeah, he wants to die.
>> He's completed that arc. He talked to
that one random black guy. Everything's
fine now.
>> Yeah. Dingus or whatever his name was. I
don't remember.
>> Name's John Diggle.
>> Good old Ding.
>> Still don't know what that tree stump
is. Look at that [ __ ] hair.
>> Where does she put her real hair when
she's wearing that?
>> She takes it off cuz of the wig. See,
you still remember how to be a smartass.
I never realized how much I missed that.
>> A remember how these two are friends?
>> Like
>> I don't actually.
>> Yeah, because they never actually
completed that. They just said that it
was true.
>> Maybe reading about who you were will
remind you of who you are.
>> What is the Does she not recognize that
she's Batwoman?
>> It's no beach read. But
>> so I guess her memories are incomplete,
right?
>> So how will that resolve?
>> No idea.
>> They haven't even discussed it, have
they?
>> And I'm starting to remember why we were
friends.
>> No. Please tell me, enlighten me.
>> Uh, yep. Just friends.
>> Do you not wear a bra or is that not
lesbian appropriate? Pearl jam. That's
so Kate Kane.
>> The bike. Remember,
>> it just hits her on the head. [ __ ]
music.
>> I like how it's like Kate Kane and her
bike. Like, you know, just that's the
team up. We all know that one.
>> Separable path.
>> Yeah. We love it. Iconic.
>> Yeah. Let's be clear. Doesn't she need a
license to be out here driving? How does
she have a license?
>> Well, she Yeah, you're right. She
wouldn't. But since when is she giving a
[ __ ] about the law?
>> That's true. She is indeed Kate Kane in
character. That's true. Where are you
going to drive?
>> I don't know.
>> I love this music.
>> It's so great. She's got her leather
jacket
messed up just back.
>> It's go time.
>> If only she was as good an actress as
Ruby Rose. And by as good, I think you
know what I mean. Oh, they're on the CW
studio.
>> Hi, Dad.
>> Oh. Oh, she's double agenting.
>> How are you feeling?
>> Grateful, actually.
>> Man, this seems pretty risky. They could
have planted any kind of tracker on it.
>> Turns out Kane had a thing for putting
her fills on paper.
>> They're going to read KK's diaries. A
>> It's basically a user manual for the
Batcave.
>> Oh.
>> Oh,
>> why?
>> [ __ ] Write that down. Damn. Why would
it be a use? I thought she just wrote
about her feelings in there, not like
this is how the Batcave works.
>> Wow. Cat Kate Kane is an idiot.
>> You could say that.
>> Jesus Christ. They've retro They've
retroactively made her dumber.
>> That's impressive show. I didn't think
you had that in you. I guess this is how
they're going to resolve how Kate Kane
can exist and also Ryan can exist and
only one Batoman could be a thing.
Unless they make Kate Kane totally good
by the end of this, which is what
>> she'll be a good guy by the end. Ryan,
>> nice cleavage window.
>> No.
>> Oh, yeah. Wow. Weird.
>> Come on. Weird.
>> Pretty sure I know what memories you're
trying to jog.
>> All right. All right.
>> What memories?
>> Remember the crows?
>> Gone now.
>> Remember she had a husband that he was a
crow?
>> I do.
>> He was a crow.
>> He was He only lasted a few episodes,
but
>> but he was a white man, so we had to get
rid of him.
>> We remember his wife. Now we lost his
job. Eapper,
his name was John.
>> Lady pants. They they have uh they have
belt loops, but they never wear belts.
You think they'd use it to accessorize.
You know, girls are
>> man, look at those devil shoulders.
>> You made the suit your own, just like
you made Batoman your own, and you've
proven yourself to her worse in a
completely different way.
>> I was going to say they're both pretty
immoral, so it's fine.
>> Remember how like where was Batman was a
plot thread and now it's gone? letting
black people
>> and how nobody cares about Jacob, by the
way.
>> He's the white guy.
>> He's not the non- lesbian.
>> Every one of you signed up to protect
this city with a noble purpose in your
hearts.
>> And what did you get in return?
>> Hey, there he is.
>> You're evil.
>> Evilman
>> by corrupt politicians who care more
about some criminals rights than what is
right. System recruiting criminals.
>> Yeah.
where they got to go.
>> The people you're there to defend would
rather defund.
[Music]
>> Nice.
>> If you join me, you'll get
>> Oh my god.
>> Jesus Christ.
>> And the free reign to use them.
>> Free. How could you free? You're
criminals.
>> How could you possibly give them free
reign?
>> I mean, why would you give them that?
But also, it's like it's not free reign.
You're just criminals. Like now you
don't
>> that [ __ ] Halloween mask.
>> They're all clapping.
>> Hey, evil. But grab like the evilst gun.
>> Take all these guns and these grenades
and go shoot.
>> Go shoot them.
>> Just can't shake the suspicion that I'm
the same cog in a different machine.
>> What if I told you you could be the
machine?
>> What does that even mean?
>> Yeah. What does that mean? I would have
seen like what does that mean?
>> I guess they explain it after they cut.
>> They had a whole hour conversation,
guys. We just didn't see that.
>> It could be cogs and sprockets.
>> They sit down at a table and loads of
like spreadsheets and he's like, "So,
what I mean by the machine is this huge
system that's currently existing.
>> Look out, dude.
>> False guys downstairs aren't going to be
helping you."
>> Why would guys use the special bullets?
Why would they not just go buy bullets
at the store? That was a window. I don't
know seen a Windows symbol on a laptop
before. It's always it's always
>> Apple. Have you
>> I mean that's how logistically were you
supposed to do that?
>> That's a good question.
>> Somebody's got black mask by the piggy
bank.
>> Oh,
>> also does anyone have a charger?
>> Yeah. I'm so used to Apple Mac being the
dominant product placement in movies.
>> Yeah. Or a Sony.
Yeah.
>> To be out there.
>> How did you get in the back cave without
I guess there's a back door.
>> I'm sure she has full access at this
point. So, I bet that the end stinger
for this season is she's going to get
the bat suit and be like, "He I'm evil."
And then they're going to get a
>> Yeah. Ryan will probably give it up and
then she'll realize, "No, it's hers
now."
>> You think by now I'd be used to having
the good things that happened to me
getting taken away.
>> They can sort of
>> Ryan, you stole it. Let's be fair.
>> Yeah, you did.
>> Yeah, I'll tell you stole it. Crash.
>> In fairness, Kate stole it, too. But,
you know,
>> she stole it before you.
>> She gives him more ownership of it. I do
like how they've just looted Bruce's
possessions.
>> These are ours now. We get to have
these. I want to come back and go to
Luke. It's like, "What the [ __ ] Luke?"
Like, "We had one job."
>> Yeah. He's like all fighting, saving the
world for years.
>> I don't know what it's plugged into.
>> Oh, wow. So, this is the first time
she's looked at this since she got it.
Good job.
>> Wait, so she's not Batwoman, but she's
keeping the
>> Yeah. Did she tell him about this or
didn't
>> I Who you talking to, by the way? Oh,
right. talking to us for you.
>> Linding me.
>> Hey, GCPD making a difference. Oh, wait.
Are these like the mask people?
>> I don't think this is your stuff.
>> L.
>> Uh-oh.
>> But I'm thinking these are definitely
yours. Look like snake bite injectors to
me.
>> You guys planted that.
>> That's what they all say.
>> Well, I mean, if you
>> Wow, even the GCPD is corrupt. Wow.
Everyone's evil. I mean, look at all
these white men
right now.
>> Steal that laptop, though. Take the
laptop. Yeah,
>> I understand it was for vigilant
purposes, but
>> Oh, she's done way more.
>> Yeah, that's what I mean. I'm fine with
her getting arrested.
>> I don't care about Oceans.
>> Wait, wait, wait. She got him. She
burned him. She I guess she
>> Are you going to dump him in the sand at
a dirty dirty beach by a city?
>> [ __ ] off. I don't care. You're not even
dumping his dude a montage.
>> Nobody cares.
>> No one gives a [ __ ] about
>> Where did he get his from?
>> Dirty canal.
>> You got to dump his ass ashes in like
>> this muddy filthy canal.
>> Look, she didn't even go that far out.
>> Oh my god. Ow.
>> Just washed up.
>> It's so crazy. Holy [ __ ] And how did
she get him cremated? Did she just have
her own cremation station? Yeah, of
course.
>> Station.
>> The Bethesda information station.
>> I can't believe that you put his ashes
in just like the port.
>> I just love the idea that it pans around
the [ __ ] subway and she's just got a
little crematorium in there.
>> Ocean to ocean.
>> Why? Why?
>> I've come to respects.
>> [ __ ] off.
>> Oh, we doing a boss fight.
>> I think she Yeah.
>> [ __ ] it. Why not?
>> You're both evil. I I love the idea that
we've gotten rid of the crows and now
it's like, well, GCPD is just going to
replace them for all the crow stuff,
right?
>> It's It feels super awkward since like
the GCPD are like frequent collaborators
with Batman. Like they they're helping
him out a lot.
>> As with most stories for Batman, they
usually are corrupted in some way, at
least in the beginning.
>> There's some level of corruption, but we
got like our good guys like Gordon in
there.
>> Yeah. And and we just we've had nothing
for the GCPD for like two seasons
really. And now that because I got rid
of the crows, but you can't get rid of
GCPD like
>> but Black Mask apparently he's just him
and GCPD are pretty much the same thing.
>> We are nothing alike.
>> Yeah, you're way worse.
>> To be fair, Black Mask is very evil.
>> Ryan is evil, too, but he's very evil.
>> Why should you be the only masked
vigilante who gets to be the
>> vigilante vigilante?
>> Flexing his acting muscles there.
>> Good.
>> It feels good to fight for people who
are powerless.
You don't you don't really you just it's
such an ego thing for you. Come on,
Ryan.
>> Yeah.
>> People like your daughter. I know what
happened to her. How she was assaulted.
How the crows covered it up. Made her
look crazy.
>> Why would they cover it up?
>> They're already gone. Stop trembling on
their name.
>> Where she was?
>> Episode prior to Jacob getting arrested,
he dissolved the crow [ __ ] shitty
writing.
>> Using her to justify what you're doing
is dishonoring her memory. I don't put
much stock in the words of a repeat drug
offender.
>> Imagine you just listed off all of her
crimes.
>> I can't have you getting in my way.
>> Okay, kill her.
>> Goodbye,
Batoman.
>> Yay. Kill her. Kill her. Kill her. Kill
her. Kill her.
>> Yeah, get a gun and just [ __ ] shoot
her in the [ __ ] face.
>> Fill the car with lava.
>> Possession of drug paraphernia with
intent to distribute snake bite
injectors.
>> So, she was set up.
>> What is in your hair? I like that she
said so she was set up like you do know
that she's been she's delivered drugs
before drug offender.
>> Yeah.
>> But I lied because I love you.
>> Love you. I love you.
>> I love you.
>> And I don't know if you remember writing
that or even feeling it. But
>> is that going to be interesting outfit?
>> She's going to be doing
>> but then she'll start actually revealing
like oh my god actually no I do remember
this stuff.
>> Yeah they got to flip her to good
somehow.
>> I'm just glad I don't have to lie to you
anymore. Oh, I miss I miss Ruby Rose so
much and her shitty acting.
>> How weird would it be though if you fell
in love with a person and then their
face is completely different and you're
like I still love you.
>> And it's a fake face that requires
constant maintenance and they have to
apply burn cream to their bodies.
Remember it's a thing.
>> See, you know, she said like we can
learn everything about the Batcave. It's
like you already could. You're Kate
Kane. You're allowed in there.
>> Being held in a secure holding area at
the Gotham City Courthouse and Pink
will get in the bat suit. want to
highlight. They are going to do
everything they can to get her out of
there. They will ignore Jacob. Even
though Jacob did vigilante [ __ ] to help
them. I [ __ ] hate this show.
>> I think your old cowl was on here
somewhere.
>> But
>> oh god, the classic version.
>> Since when was it more classic?
>> I thought it was the same suit. They
just modified it.
>> Yeah, cuz they said like it's super
rare. Made of whatever.
>> Yeah, it's made out of bulletproof
[ __ ]
>> How can I not do the same? Yeah, she's
going to be an evil batwoman running
around terrorizing the city or some
[ __ ]
>> So, you know, nothing changes.
>> Grab the shotgun.
>> Shotgun.
>> Oh, bat sides. Bat sides.
>> It's the bat little crick kit from Noisy
Cricket.
>> I'll take the bat bike. You take the
U-Haul.
>> What?
>> No.
[Laughter]
>> How did you know that was loaded?
>> Yeah, it would have been funny if it
wasn't.
>> You got to love instant tranquilizer
dots. Like not even a second.
>> Yeah.
>> Oink.
>> Now kill him.
>> Would that have gotten through those two
legs?
>> I wonder.
>> It's a bat. It's a bat tranquilizer.
>> Look at that face.
>> It could tranquilize a rhinoceros behind
another rhinoceros.
>> It goes through the rhino somehow still
tranquilizers and then the other ghost.
>> Stop the bleeding.
>> What's the excuse for this evil person
letting the three of them live?
>> Well, yeah. Why isn't Ryan being killed?
Why wasn't Ryan killed? What the [ __ ]
You were this close to putting your past
mistakes. Oh,
>> shut up. No one cares.
>> And then you'll be broken out. It won't
matter.
>> They were not mine.
>> Well, that sounds familiar.
>> Last time they weren't yours either.
>> Which, by the way, was hilarious. She
said she was falsely imprisoned for like
moving a friend's drugs. It's like, you
know, that's illegal.
>> Even if they're not yours.
>> I have been set up black mass who owns
the GCPD and they are trying to kill me.
Why didn't they kill you? didn't find
any snake bite because why didn't they
kill you on it?
>> How did you get out of that car and get
here?
>> I don't know.
>> Why did they [ __ ] pop a shotgun shell
into your face?
>> I don't understand. Bad guys are so
dumb.
>> Black mask said goodbye. I thought that
meant they did kill her.
>> Fine.
>> Indulging this paranoid fantasy because
apparently that's what I do now.
>> God, this lady is uh
>> Oh, this is a high table.
>> Why would one of Gotham's worst criminal
masterminds want to target you?
>> Because I'm Batoman.
I don't know what telling her that will
help.
>> You can't expect me to believe any of
this.
>> Well, look at the photos of Batoman. She
looks just like her.
>> You saw all of that firepower for a bat
full of kids.
>> Also, what a great job you've done. This
moment you captured you tell people
you're Batoman. It's like
>> No, no, no.
>> What is she supposed to do?
>> Yeah.
>> Like really, what is she supposed to do?
>> Exactly. This just makes it worse for
her really.
>> Well, so they they were listening to
this, right?
They actually Yeah, cuz if they're evil
corrupt cops,
>> they're not they're not going to
>> I have reason to believe my parole is
being railroaded.
>> Huh?
>> What does that mean?
>> What the [ __ ]
>> What the [ __ ] are you guys doing?
>> Uh what the hell are we doing?
>> And she beats up these two. This is so
horit. What? Oh no,
>> you Okay.
>> This doesn't make any sense. These
fights are so bad.
>> Oh yeah, that just that's how that
works.
>> None of these cops have any trading at
all. Obviously.
>> Nope.
>> And they're definitely not big burly
men.
>> It's so amazing.
>> It's funny. Look how scrawny and tiny
she is.
>> Why would the lawyer be like, "Oh, you
told me you're Batoman. Therefore, I now
think you're being railroaded." Like,
what? Oh,
>> what's that going to do?
>> You should probably leave, too, lawyer
lady. They just tried to kill you.
>> Anytime,
Batoman.
>> [ __ ] off.
All of this is recorded, guys. All of
this is recorded. So, good luck with
that.
>> You're in a lot of trouble. I'd be super
>> All right, this scene.
>> [ __ ] fellas. I hate you.
>> Go away.
>> The other scene was way more
entertaining. Why we got to do this?
>> If I wanted you dead, I would have to
ask the man who trapped you here to do
it. Take him.
>> No, this probably wouldn't have.
>> If you wanted her dead, you couldn't
have.
>> The problem is nobody ever seems to want
Alice dead.
>> Even after you killed my ocean.
>> Did you say my ocean?
>> What?
>> Also, wow. He wasn't one of your island
hippies, you [ __ ]
>> Why does she She She just can't act any
other way when she's upset.
>> And I've taken him from you just the way
you took the thing I loved most, the
desert rose.
>> I mean, yeah, Alice, she did plunge the
entire world into misery.
>> Wow, Dick. That was a good throw. I like
that knife. What if she has a backup
knife
>> or a gun? God forbid.
>> No, no, no.
>> I'm here to save you from what?
>> From yourself. I'm here to save you from
yourself.
spending the rest of your days locked in
a cage. A storm is coming for Gotham.
>> A storm is coming. No, don't say that.
>> Everyone says that there is.
>> Whoa.
>> Well, if she fears being locked up in a
cage, her life in freedom has been
horrific for humanity. So, she belongs
in a cage.
>> Why are they still alive?
>> There is no reason alive anymore.
>> Why would Black Mask be okay with these
lot being alive? They always subvert his
plans. just like,
>> well, he let Batoman be alive to go to
the GCPD HQ,
>> which ruined everything again.
>> Did she just rack them all into the
elevator to lock him instead
>> of just killing them with the bat
shotgun?
>> She could have killed us and she didn't.
>> Maybe.
>> Maybe there's a part of her that's still
Kate.
>> Dude, this show is so awful.
It's
>> just worthless. All right, what are you
going to do? Unlock the great bat weapon
that we've not seen yet. The
>> Oh, there you go. K. There it is.
>> The bad FG
on this side.
>> Wow.
>> Did they fix the door for the Batmobile?
Remember when it got blown up?
>> That's the one.
>> No, that's behind her. That's what that
opening is. That's the rock. Well, I
think so. Yeah.
>> Ew.
>> God, get rid of the webs down here.
>> Mary is supposed to be keeping this
place. Oh, terrible.
>> We haven't seen this place before.
>> This is new. It' be really funny if
there's just like horrible experiments
that Bruce was or something.
>> A genetics testing laboratory where he
conducts horrific bat genetic
experiments.
>> Was that a bat human hybrid?
>> This look like a conference room.
>> I think it might have been.
>> So Ryan and company never went down here
to see what was in there.
>> Even though Kate Kane had access to
this, we've never seen it before.
>> Oh, Spruce's thing maybe.
>> No, don't say that. I was definitely
>> I was going to say that wouldn't make
sense though because he already had one
with the main
>> Why would he put it back there?
>> Um Oh, did Bruce have his This is his
boweapons lab.
>> Nuclear weapon facility.
>> Well, this might be agency plans, right?
>> He's If people find out who I am, I'm
going to destroy Gotham.
>> Yeah, we got references.
>> We definitely have references.
>> No, don't open that up. It looks like
it's got a biohazard.
>> Oh, wait. That's like the the the goopy
stuff for for Bane and stuff like that.
>> I couldn't recognize the other ones.
>> I think Poison Ivy.
>> Are they irradiated?
>> That's probably
that one. Is that Joker?
>> Not Joker maybe. Yeah.
>> Yeah. The little That's Bane.
>> That's Bane.
>> That's Bane. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Remember he killed Joker in this?
>> Yeah. That Oh, that's Poison Ivy then.
>> No, that might be references everywhere.
>> Right. Cuz she's going to be in season
3, right?
>> Well, so I was going to say, you know
what? She said there's a storm coming. I
was like, she should have said there's a
blizzard coming cuz I missed a freeze.
>> That's right.
>> She just got got away.
>> She's just here now.
>> She's just here. Nice.
>> How did you get in without bumping into
Kate?
>> I'm surprised Kate didn't make it so
that no one could get in.
>> So, she just
>> Oh, dang. We We tried that, but it
didn't work.
>> Yeah.
>> Also, GCPD, she just left the whole
building after that room was done. I
guess
>> she took everything. How did you miss?
>> Oh, you fools.
>> She got the back crossbow. Yes,
>> bat crossbow. Bat crossbow.
>> Here I was thinking I was the girl who
had everything.
>> Pumpa action crossbow.
>> It's finally time for old Batoman versus
new Batoman.
>> I hope they lose.
>> I hope they both kill each other.
>> How did she No. How did she get away
without you seeing?
>> Why didn't she She should have put on
the bat suit that she was given because
it's literally body armor.
No,
>> no, stop. I want to see the ridiculous
bat hunt.
>> Corana will soon be a bloom with desert
rose once more thanks to a small cutting
from one of Poison Ivy's lines.
>> They just said Poison Ivy's vines or
something.
>> It really annoys me that this show just
like pillagages things from Batman. Like
makes me angry when they just
>> This show pillagers words from the
English language.
>> It does.
>> Just can we finish this killer or
whatever? You didn't really think you'd
gotten your sister back, did you?
>> I never even know if the show show is
like, "See, Alice really cares about
that." I'm like, "Okay,
>> I don't know."
>> If you say so. They bought one of those
cheap scopes from Amazon.
>> Like, they're all watching this like a
TV show. They're just like, "What's
going to happen next?"
>> If you're not going to give me something
to shoot at, I'm going to have to
improvise.
>> If you don't come out, I'm going to
shoot you.
>> Oh, now they're going to She's going to
kill him. Okay.
>> Duck or something. Be a harder target.
What? Wow. How do you keep missing?
>> Kate, I know that there's still a small
part of
>> Mary doesn't want to kill us.
>> Get tackled. How is Ryan do something?
Maybe.
>> Why don't she's literally reloading this
whole time? You're not doing [ __ ]
anything.
>> Ryan, what are you doing?
>> Ryan's just rat off like
>> finally, I guess.
>> Really? That that was your plan.
>> Could have just tackled her the whole
time, but fine.
>> Oh, yeah. Pop music. I knew it.
>> Go. Batoman versus Batoman. Bye. Bye.
Bye. Bye.
>> I can't wait.
>> This nose costs more than everything in
here. It's not your nose. Otherwise, I
would have broken it.
>> Wait, how is her face off?
>> I was going to say, how is her face
still on?
>> Because they don't care about that
anymore.
>> I don't care. Yeah.
>> So, Kate Kane should beat the [ __ ] out
of Ryan because had years and years of
training.
>> Also, I don't reach that. You can't.
>> Honestly, having a crossbow that far
away at that angle with one shot, I
don't even know how much of a All right,
give it a shot, I guess. She made belts,
not
>> How long is the fight going to last for
this to win?
>> Oh, I mentioned why women should have
belts and she's using the belt.
>> Oh my god, this is just like
>> the music is par.
>> Yeah, in all seriousness, Ryan should be
getting her ass kicked by Kate. Kate did
all that military training, years and
years and years of special forces
training and black get [ __ ] up. Or at
least he should.
>> Black training, too. Yeah. Now, what are
we doing?
>> Why did you
>> Wait, did it have blood on it?
>> Oh, they're going to What? Two.
>> I thought it was locked.
>> What? What are you doing?
>> What?
>> Yeah. How is that going to help you?
>> Wait.
Because of this
give you any advantage over just
pulling.
>> The door opens left to right, not up and
down. How would you be able to lift it
up?
>> What's happening?
>> If you got hit in the face with How did
you get out? No.
>> You're not going to shoot me. Because
you love me.
>> Because you love me.
>> God. Oh. Oh.
>> Brian, don't feel bad. kicker.
>> Kate was pretty sure there was still a
gun thing.
>> I'm pretty sure there was still bowls
left when she dropped it and on the
front.
>> You guys could still make an
>> No, you could apprehend her. No, you
could stop her. What are you doing?
>> You No. Go get her with your hands.
>> What? What?
>> No. Use your arms and your legs.
>> Use your bodies.
>> Okay. All right. Well, that ends that.
>> Okay. Bye, K.
>> Okay. Bye.
>> I mean, it stays with the character of
the show, right? to just let her go.
>> It shows in a double bat.
>> They keep cutting back to this scene
when no one cares about it.
>> What if everybody cares about it like in
the bat the bat woman?
>> Well, they're wrong.
>> Stab her already.
>> Oh, there you go. Perfect. Hug her and
then she goes and she gets stabbed.
>> A excellent idea.
>> Let's move on. She was a [ __ ] villain.
>> [ __ ] in this show.
>> Wait, is that the magic knife?
>> No, use a real one.
>> She's like
>> Or a real bullet. Yeah, that's probably
not going to kill her. Wait, so all it
does is like put you to sleep?
>> Basically, it puts you in stasis until
you
>> What if he What if she poops
>> What if you like decapitated? Would that
keep you in stasis or what?
>> She just leaves her on the beach.
>> Yeah,
>> come by and find her.
>> I was going to say, is it
>> the bat ging gun? The batling gun.
>> What is this place?
>> It was where Bruce kept the weapons and
other bad stuff. He confiscated from all
the villains he took down.
>> And now Cersei hasn't.
>> Yeah, that's kind of your guys' fault
for letting her go. Just saying.
>> Yeah.
>> So, the Mat Cave is just like a super
surveillance system now.
>> You warned us not to rush things and we
all just wanted K back so bad. We just
didn't question it. But you did.
>> What?
>> Yeah. So awesome. Ryan is so great.
>> She has the best WMDs.
>> They have the biggest
>> WMDs.
>> My suit. My weapons. I don't know if
they count as WMDs.
>> Bruce has certain weapons, but okay,
>> guys. You [ __ ] let her get away with
it. I don't know what.
>> Yeah, she just let her leave.
>> Can our team defeat evil Batoman and Mr.
Freeze and the Penguin and whoever else
shows up?
>> Why did she take the hat?
>> I don't know.
>> It's a weapon of mass destruction. Rex,
>> why are you collecting all this stuff
from Batman's enemies?
>> One day, I will create plot armor of my
own.
>> Started.
>> Oh god, is he going to be Venom?
>> Oh, is he going to get the thing?
Is he going to be Venom? God, this
>> season 3 is going to be so he's not a
one and done villain.
>> I was just saying is he going to be
Venom? I think you're thinking of the
wrong universe.
>> What are you doing?
>> What do you mean?
>> He's not going to be Venom. He's going
to be Bane.
>> Yeah.
>> Wait, you ripped it apart? Venom powers.
>> You ripped it up.
>> Yeah, right. But yeah, these Oh, see I'm
going to be evil Batman. See, look.
Yeah, I'm evil Batman.
>> I'm evil. I'm I'm bad woman. Oh, look at
that.
>> Wait, I'm sorry.
>> Did she cut the suit apart with what? A
knife.
>> How is that even possible?
>> I guess.
>> How is that even possible? It's got to
be a bat knife then. It
>> was a bad knife. All right. Wow. What an
episode.
>> Oh god.
>> Oh my god.
>> We have given so much power to the bad
guys cuz I guess we were just bored.
>> Well, we still have one episode and as
we all know, that's more than enough
time to wrap this all up in a neat
little bow.
>> I would giving us our little season 3
hooks. They could honestly rush it so
hard that we get uh Bane in the next
episode or some [ __ ] like like faux
Bane, you know?
>> At least it's faux Bane. Like I'm I'm
okay when this show does like [ __ ]
>> I'm a shitty copycat. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Like Victor's ass. It's like oh
careful. Like and admittedly black mask
that's the one where it's like what are
you doing? Can you like not do this
please? Can you stop?
>> I don't hate this guy's black mask is
fine.
>> I don't but I don't like that it's in
Batoman because it's like a Batman more
people.
>> He still Yeah, he still just doesn't
kill people for no reason.
>> And now they're going to use like actual
Batman villains like Mr. Freeze and
Poison Ivy. Oh,
>> that's going to be tough to watch. Yeah,
>> that's going to be real. Well, dude, I
mean, you remember at the end of season
one when I thought that they were going
to do a whole season of evil Bruce
Wayne. I was like,
>> yeah, they were not ready.
>> And then in one episode that was all
taken care of.
>> I was so happy that in one episode it
was all taken care of. I didn't want not
want I I think a whole season of that
would have made me very upset. was the
episode where uh yeah, Alice starts off
by murdering someone.
>> Yeah, that's right. Um she throws a
knife into that poor lady who was just
standing there and her family probably
doesn't even know where she is cuz that
got covered up and that's that's her
fault she did that.
>> Yep. But Alice gets Alice is going to
become a protagonist and she's going to
fight for whatever.
>> No,
>> she's she's definitely going to get her
like redemption arc. I I don't know what
it looks like though, I guess, cuz like
it seems like this whole what's is it
Safire? That's a name, right? the the
evil one.
>> Yes.
>> Yeah. Like are we you know is that like
is this done? Are we done nearly like
can can we please be done with that? But
now it feels like we're not.
>> They stand with a magic knife. She'll be
back.
>> Yeah. But hopefully she'll be back this
episode and then gone. I I just I'm sick
of this plot line. I'm I'm so tired of
it.
>> Yeah. Well, the Alice stuff this season
has been absolute ass. Like
>> it's been awful. So bad.
>> Terrible.
>> It's not funny anymore, you know? It's
not funny anymore.
This joke has run its course. It's not
>> slow the show down so much. She's not
cringe funny. She's just boring.
>> Like, look how hard I have. Look what
what it cost me. Like, [ __ ] you.
>> I know. It's hard not to feel
>> so many people this season while Batoman
was there. B was like dead. All horrible
people.
>> They are.
>> And no Jacob. No Jacob scene.
>> Yeah. We're just done. which is crazy
because you kind of need him to resolve
the story line.
>> Yeah, he's just he's out. He was a
mainstay for the show since day one and
now he's just
>> one episode.
He got his script and it's just these
are your last he didn't get that.
>> They don't care. They just don't care.
The writers don't care about him as a
character. They just don't.
>> They don't.
>> But it sucks because that means
>> that they've forgotten that the
characters care about him and so now
they don't which sucks.
>> Yep.
>> It's just bad writing. They got it out
in that one episode right before he
left. They said, "You're great." And
then he got [ __ ] off. And that's
insane.
>> And that's that's probably the crulest
thing they've done to us, the loyal
Batwoman fan base. We
>> I don't know if I can move past that.
>> We are Jacob fans. And uh I just think
that he deserves a little bit more
respect. Honestly, that's what I think.
>> He absolutely # justice for Jacob.
>> Yes. Poor
>> guy. get it trending several months
after years, possibly years after this
all happened.
>> The thing about there's going to be
episodes # Batoman series 2 season 2.
>> Us reacting to the season 3 finale will
probably be out in like 3 years from
now.
>> Yeah. And the show will have been long
since cancelled or possibly will be on
its sick season. Dude, can you imagine
this is what we do for the rest of our
lives every week? Just watching Bad
Woman
>> just keeps going forever.
>> Only us four watching this like four
people watching us and all the all the
people the all the people who are
watching this the biggest Batoman
community on in the world
>> and the most loving I would say. I would
say yeah
>> even we watch this show and it's garbage
and we watch it mostly to just make fun
of how terrible it is but even we are
sitting here going what did you do to
Jacob the character what did you do to
this
>> I mean I'm invested I'm invested in him
like you did something unintentionally I
imagine but like you did something
>> I mean they completely ruined Luke and
they've gotten rid of Jacob so
>> I was about to say yeah like cuz Luke
was the other character who it's like I
actually like you could be something um
but if it was like we're not Yeah, we've
>> Oh, they ruined I They super ruined
Luke.
>> Yeah, they actually really screwed up.
If they were trying to tell a story and
do it well, they had a character who
could be something and they they've
[ __ ]
>> don't want to live in this because of
>> Can we still have the the badass Luke
with a gun?
>> That That does feel to me like Well, how
much do you know about the the finale
medal?
>> Yeah, I don't know anything about this
finale. Okay, that's enough.
>> Actually, actually, I might I might I
might have seen the picture now that you
mentioned.
>> Well, let's just watch and see.
>> I was going to say, um, thanks for
watching everybody. That's episode 17.
>> Yeah. Oh, I'm sitting here with my
finger on the button for the start for
the next episode being like, we got to
do it. We're so close. What
>> the goodbye everybody?
>> Oh, boy.
>> Goodbye. See you.
>> One more.
Goodbye,
Batoman.
>> Fill the car with lava.
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