EFAP Mini - Catchin' up on EFAP #374, #381, #382 - Iron Lung, Project: HM & Super Mario Galaxy

Hello and welcome to EFAP Super Chat Catchup mini for uh for episode 374 which is Iron Lung but also Project Hail Mary and Super Mario Galaxy that'll be 381 and 382. Look at that triple threat movies. Don't you love them? Kind of a funny selection too because one film we were like this was awesome and in the top 10 probably for sure for all three of us. One of them was like that was a cool attempt. Lots of neat things, >> few problems, you know. Hey, better luck next time. But also, thumbs up. >> And one of them just abject slop that a lot of people find because they don't care about Mario as a series and think that nobody does. >> Well, yeah. Abomination. >> Yeah. Can you tell I'm not a still a little bitter about the conversations around Super Mario Galaxy and adaptation? One of my favorite games just ever. >> Yeah, that was that was great. >> But they did. There was music in it though from the game. >> Yeah, for like 5 seconds and then it went back to the boring score music. >> You loved Fox though, didn't you? >> Um, no, not really. Um, I it it felt like everybody was a little bit prepared after some time to go like, well, hey, look, all right, if they made a movie, which they probably will, probably shouldn't look exactly like this >> or act like that. [laughter] >> He probably shouldn't look like that or behave like that. But otherwise, you know, good stuff. I mean, I like the the 2D animation, like the the synth wave thing. That was kind of like cool, but you know that the movie is not going to look like that, right? Like, that's for that was for Twitter and they were right to do that. That works. I mean, it's just it was a bad movie and it made a lot of money, but it made less money, which is nice. That's reassuring. That's it's all downhill on that front. Well, you guys send us some messages. We're going to look into them. Here goes. Starting with Leight and Gay. Appropriate. Uh, whenever you're reading this, go to Letterbox and read the top review for The Patriot. Many LOLs. By the way, just watch 12 Angry Men. It rocked. Well, that is a correct opinion right there. Um, >> have I even been to Letterboxed before? I was about to say like, what does it even look like? >> I've never used it. I've never used it. >> I've heard of it and it sounds like one of the places I would never want to visit. Yeah. >> Track films you've watched. Save those you want to see. Tell friends what's good. Okay. >> I do on YouTube. >> The Patriot. I have found it. Now, how do I see? >> What did it say? Look for top review. >> Okay. So, I'm reading the one at the top. I guess it's the one with the most likes. So, this this this is what it says. [ __ ] you, Roland Demerich. [ __ ] you for your depiction of happy pseudo slaves who want nothing more than to work for their masters all day in the field. [ __ ] you for simplifying a morally complex and nuanced war between combatants that had parents and children and loved ones into a simplistic good and evil wankfest. [ __ ] you for trying to create a hero narrative out of a repentant slaveowning mass murderer solely because he didn't kill white people and you knew Hollywood doesn't care about the suffering of Native Americans. [ __ ] you for using the genocide of Native Americans. Not one of which appear in this movie as a plot device for Mel Gibson's man pain when the figure his character was based on couldn't have cared less about Native Americans he slaughtered all their families. [ __ ] you for making Heath Ledger look like he can't act. [laughter] >> [ __ ] you. >> I mean it it's not historically accurate. That's for sure. >> Yes. Uh [ __ ] you for casting Jason Jason Isaacs, one of the best actors in Hollywood to play one of the most poorly and lazily written bad guys have ever seen and making him look like a hack. [ __ ] you for making the most half-ass and artificial romance of the 2000s and killing off the love interest because you're incapable of creating anything that produces genuine emotion beyond embarrassment, anger, and shame. And especially [ __ ] you for taking a war crime committed against Native Americans uh by patriots and changing it so that the patriots were victims of the British because you think it's edgy. >> That's a glowing endorsement of Mr. Emerick's filmmaking skills. >> Gave it a half star. So I am >> I assume it's the lowest you can give it like you're not allowed to give something a zero. >> I assume that's how it works. I think they >> it's not >> had some criticisms accurate. >> You know what's wrong with that review? It's not very balanced. Where's the praise? Where's the praise? >> Well, yeah, because you're you have to praise you have to praise something you're obliged to. >> Otherwise, your review can't be good. If you if you don't have a balanced review, you praise and what's the point? So if you put at the end of that long screed but the scenery was kind of nice I guess then all of a sudden it's a valid review is such a bizarre like I don't understand >> his career >> like Independence Day fair enough very fun movie but how does the guy who does Moonfall Independence Day Resurgence >> he did 2012 right like all of his films are the same >> and most of them are really [ __ ] I say all of his films are the same except that for some [ __ ] reason. Um, when they were doing a doc like a documentary style movie about the origins of Stonewall, the people in charge thought, you know who'd be the best person to direct the thing charting the origins of the gay rights movement? Roland Emmerick. We'll give it to him. He can just blow the gays up repeatedly. He just Oh, he's so strange. >> He did a movie about Midway, didn't he? It was like independent film that was very expensive but nobody watched it. >> What I heard. Yeah. >> Which uh I mean I I assume that he's in he can't make movies now like any big budget movies because he hasn't made one that's been successful in godamn like 2012 probably was the last actually successful role in Emer film right and that came out in 2009 not 2012. >> I never saw a dependency resurgence so I just know everyone hates it. Oh, it's a It certainly is a film. It came on the other day and I left it on out of morbid curiosity. >> Oh dear. >> Really, really [ __ ] And they plan to do a third one. >> There's a review a little bit further down that says, "I have to Braveheart Gibson's Crusade to destroy the English continues. Score points for accurately depicting the effects of a cannonball." And that's about it. I know what they're talking about. There's a part where a cannonball hits a guy's head and it goes comes right off. There you go. Um, I'd like to stop for uh by apologizing for asking for a Shelby Oaks and Iron Lung comparison last EFAP, ignorant of this coming EFA. So, instead, how about Iron Lung versus Send Help? It's a Remy movie. >> Yeah, I haven't seen Send Help yet. I'm going to though. >> I've heard I've I've heard things. >> No, it's not it's not got a great rep. I mean, it's kind of 50/50. I've heard some people say it's it's awesome and then other people but it is Remy so there's probably something fun in it at some point you know right right guys yeah you go multiverse of madness there was lots of good stuff in that here and there is the iron in this lung like iron iron um some of it is is the iron you're more familiar with biologically but it's also regular iron too it's like it's like yeah It's both. Um, hello everybody. I am Ron and this is my lung. Can't wait for Markiplier to reveal that he is iron and starts lunging all over the place. I am Ron. Get it? I'm Ron. I Ron Lung. I guess his name could be Ron Lung. >> Though at that point you just want to say John Lung would be funnier, I guess. I always find the whole John person funnier. So glad this was good. Please mention the awesome match cut from Simon's mapping to the cable during the montage. Really cool film making stuff here. There's the thing we concluded on this just clearly someone gives a [ __ ] when they were making this. >> Mhm. >> Which in a way is all that matters. But I mean other stuff matters too. Uh the truth is I am Iron Lung. Yeah, they didn't they they cut that line. I think that was going to that was going to be in there but nope. Um, oh, potential criticism of the day. Not even criticism of the day. Potential criticism of the day. Your standards can be incompatible with certain genre of genres of film such as absurdist films. Maybe tweak it a bit. I have yet to come across any movie that can't be looked at the way that we I think, you know, would would maybe help answer this question. Uh, once upon a time, I was [ __ ] all over the uh the throne room fight scene. I was talking to someone who said, "If the throne room fight scene was in someone's dream, would you have the same criticisms?" And I said, "No." And they were like, "Well, is that not evidence that your whole system collapses? All I have to do is say it's a dream and now you can't even criticize it." And I was like, "One, that doesn't mean I can't criticize it. It would just change the format. And two, context is everything for criticism." I don't know why that would be a surprise. the difference between something happening in a dream in a film or something being a vision or um maybe a an illusion versus what is actually happening. You know, I don't think we should broadly say like, oh, all of that's the same though cuz it's a movie. It's all made up. Like, well, no, that's that's the context changes. And um you can use that to your benefit or not. And so, absurdist being like the context, I I I feel like we can uh we can easily sort of break it down. doesn't mean that we won't catch everything or um you know all possible interpretations of what the the creator was uh intending but again I've seen all kinds of movies and I haven't had trouble being able to sort of like format that sort of thing yet. >> What is the most absurd movie you guys have seen? >> Obviously absurdist being I don't mean to say that like they're not necessarily the same an absurd movie and an absurdist movie but you know what I mean. I >> mean it it is pretty funny because like Smiling Friends is absurdist. >> Yeah. And like we love smiling friends and I don't know that anybody would suggest that our standard for sort of thinking about stories just completely collapses in the face of smiling friends >> or even like scary movie 3 for example. There's lots of like if you tracked it as a story it would be absurdist but it works as a absurd comedy because it's a different standard. >> Aren't the Monty Python movies absurdist? >> I I think that would have to be accepted. Yeah, that they are. And um I'm pretty sure Birdman is, which I like. >> Yeah. Um I mean it's it's a absurdism isn't actually that niche as like a as sort of a uh a genre. Well, not even a genre, but a tone. Um but like I don't know. I mean, if Yeah. I I just uh the system doesn't like collapse in the face of absurdism. if a system kind of does, it's like, well, yeah, you just got to you got to hammer it out and and figure out how to make it more compatible with more stories. But, I mean, cause and effect is a good guide because all stories are a recount of a sequence of events. So, there's probably something to be said for the sequence in all circumstances, even in stories that are a little bit silly. Uh, Cybertruck is a better sub than the SM13. No, I mean, yeah, Cybertruck's probably a pretty bad submarine. >> That is funny that he said it's like, oh, it could be a boat. >> It's like, oh, why would you want why would you want a ute to be a boat? Why would that be to your benefit? And surely the >> Well, no. I mean, it's he he just says things. There are a lot of people who do this. They just say things. It's like the idea comes to their mind and then and then some poor [ __ ] has to try and figure out how to make it work and they >> someone tried to use it as a boat and they got like halfway in and then had to be rescued by someone using a good oldfashioned Jeep. >> Yeah. I mean, of course it's uh I mean it's it's just a hilariously stupid vehicle. It looks horrible. It doesn't have that much like cargo space. It's not I don't think it can actually tow that much. Um it's it's uh there's a whole bunch of things in it that broke down and fell apart. Wasn't there like a potential issue with that where like the accelerator could get stuck because the um the actual like >> um I don't know I would call it a paddle like could like slip off potentially and get jammed. I feel like I saw that thing. Um, I remember there was a video and and then in terms of the kinds of people, there was a guy who put his finger >> beneath the fruit because like he he was cuz someone was testing with a carrot like how I could slice a carrot and then some guy put his finger in and it severed the tendons in his finger. >> Um because he decided I'm going to put my finger here while this automatic thing closes. But there's lots of stuff I'm pretty sure cuz I think there was um I don't know who it was but somebody wanted to test the bulletproof nature of it and it it like [ __ ] the [ __ ] something up like the window or something or the door couldn't open um cuz they like shot it and then it shattered like the windcreen or something like that. >> Like I know that it could be um the the effect of a better feature, but a feature in and of itself like bulletproof I'll be like it's not really what I'm looking for in my car. Well, not only is it not something that you but like the whole thermonuclear explosion proof glass, it's like right so if you need to get out of the car really quickly then like for instance if it was an electric car that maybe caught on fire um and you want to get out of the car really quickly, what benefit is it to you that the glass is thermonuclear explosion proof, which it obviously isn't even like it's it's one of those things of oh doesn't this seem like a list of cool features and then you're like oh there's actually a reason why Toyota builds like cars the way that they do. It's kind of, you know, a lot of the time, a lot of the time we've actually figured things out. A lot of the time the way that things are done is just the correct way and whatever your innovative idea is to fix it just ruins everything. >> Um, but hey, you know, I'm pretty sure that um, >> was it Simpsons that had the volcano insurance? Was that some Family Guy? >> I'm not sure. That doesn't actually ring a bell as a reference, but that's um yeah, >> it's what a stupid [ __ ] vehicle [laughter] Cyber Truck is. [gasps] It's what a what a what a stupid vehicle for like a stupid car company that is somehow worth more than every other car company in the world somehow. >> Family Guy has insurance as much as Ah, right. What was Well, you know, volcano insurance for a car, was it? Uh, I think for his house, but obviously it's still me. >> Well, yeah. I guess that's probably not necessary in Khog, Rhode Island. Or are there volcanoes there? >> You know what? You never know. Anyway, what if an alien drops a volcano on us? Then uh Yeah. >> Uh would would volcano insurance cover a volcano being dropped on a house? Like like I'm almost imagining it as a flat bottom, you know, flat bottom and then the volcano just gets dropped on like with a crane. >> Oh, you mean like cuz you are right. insurance like the the cause of the problem is very relevant. It can't just be >> it can be complicated. Yeah. >> Do you remember when Ben said >> alien insurance at that point? >> What was it? Ben Shapiro I don't know why I'm reminded of it but uh that if your house got flooded or something because of climate change if that was actually going to happen then you could just move. Well, yeah. The >> which the question of whom are you going to sell your flooded house to [laughter] go to buy that? >> Yeah, that was going around the whole if you just move. Just move like as though it's the easiest thing for anybody to do. >> Well, if you could just sell anything to anybody, including something that's been ruined. [laughter] Like, yeah, you can just sell that. No problem. Sell that real estate to uh Maron. [laughter] He can make it his house instead of an anemone. You've just been markup applied. Ah, like stuckmanized but different. Who's the most underrated Simpsons character? >> Underrated. >> Uh, funnily enough, I feel like none of the typical sort of key supporting characters can be underrated because pretty much every like Crusty Skinner, >> Mo, like all of these characters are probably sufficiently rated. um if it was like we need to go a little bit and then even even your more like tertiary ones like Lionel Huts and stuff it's like well they're not underrated they're probably sufficiently rated >> um I h I wonder if Patty and Selmer are underrated >> because they're like pretty reliably funny but I I wonder if they're uh the people that you would as frequently think of in terms of it's just funny because they are in the category of the likes of you know like Crusty and stuff in terms of their their role in the Simpsons and I wonder um >> I think to an extent it just goes to show like cuz I don't really think of any character in Sims I'm like oh yeah everyone hates them but they're pretty cool. >> I I think it's less about whether or not they're disliked cuz I was about to say I think Lisa's like underrated but it's probably more apt that I think she's overhated. Um, >> uh, that's got an asterisk next to it because modern Lisa is way more [ __ ] insufferable than classic Lisa. >> Yeah, I guess this would apply. Yeah, it'd be like if I said, you know, I think Brian is over hated. I was like, well, >> yeah, but Brian changed at some point. Um, no. I It's It's really hard to pick uh to pick characters that it feels like anybody would point to and say they, you know, like, "Yeah, no, I don't I'm not interested in them." And they're actually like really entertaining. Um, Simpsons is incredibly well balanced when it comes to it supporting supporting cast of characters. >> Like literally every character I think of, I'm like, "Oh yeah, do people rate them low?" It's like, "No." Like think of like Milhouse. It's like no. Everyone [ __ ] loves Milhouse even though he's like a a punching bag. He's hilarious. >> Well, even people like Martin, it's like, yeah, but Martin's really like everybody he's he's entertaining, you know. >> Do you remember the um when they're playing that board game like dating board game or whatever? And then you can end up with like the Chad or the loser and they open the door to the loser and it's just a picture of a guy who looks just like Milhouse and Homer's like he looks like you point Dexter image. He's got [laughter] like a sort of sagging flower and that's it. I like I like the bullying on Milhouse. >> No, it's it's uh it's really funny. >> Ah, I sleep in a race car. Like I sleep in a big bed with my wife. [laughter] >> Uh thoroughly enjoyed the lack of exposition in Iron Lung until toward the end. Felt like the movie was respecting my intelligence by not overtly explaining things. Haven't felt that in years. plenty to dig into, I think, was kind of what their goal was with that movie. >> I will say, unfortunately, if you haven't felt that in years, you I'd say you got to you got to try and alleviate that. Um, there are definitely movies to be found in in recent years that uh respect your intelligence, you just might have to venture a little bit. >> It's all relative. If they're saying they haven't found any at all, you'd be like, "Oh, well, yeah, there's definitely." But if they're just saying, you know, in the realm of big budget, sort of >> in the realm of big budget, well, big budget, that's of course it's music in the I guess of like these sort of ultra mainstream uh main screen mainstream uh things. >> Yeah. >> Pardon me. >> Does anyone get unalived in Iron Lung? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Several people. In regards to the first Five Nights at Freddy's movie, Mark was originally going to be in the the going to be the first security guard as he died, but he was busy making Iron Lung. That is interesting to me. I would have thought he would absolutely want to make it for that. Um I know that like I'm just I guess it would just be it was impossible for him, but you'd think he'd really really want to make it to the Five Nights at Freddy's movie. They got Matt Pat. Damn it. >> I wonder if they got cameos in the second one. It feels like people just didn't care as much about the second one. I know it like did well, right? But >> it it did well. I don't think it did as well. But of course, it's not even a realm that I'm like remotely familiar with. I don't know anything about those games. >> Those films, I think it might, you know, years go by, we'll find out. It's like, "Oh, the fifth one's coming out." We're all going to be like, "The fifth one? Damn." Okay. >> And be like, "Yeah, the fifth one. Yeah." No, it's just uh Yeah, they just kept going. I imagine keep moving. I left NFT and BBC because of the incessant political pandering. Been skipping open bars. They turned into boring repetitive yapping. Still here though. Please stay fun, insightful, and tis me, my dear. EAP. What? I don't even know how to respond to that. I mean, [laughter] we're just we're just doing what we do, man. I don't know. >> And hopefully hopefully you keep finding EAP entertaining. >> Yeah, you know, >> that's the goal. >> Sorry the other shows uh didn't quite make it for you. you know, you know, I'm a part of some of them, so it's just unfortunate, but that's how it goes. Duckman is going to be in shambles if RLM decided to review Iron Lung after not bothering to watch Shelby Oaks. I can't remember if they did say anything about Iron L now. >> I I mean, he'll be in I imagine he'd just be in shambles. By the way, it was really funny people pretending like he wouldn't be like, "Oh, why would he be upset?" I was like, "Dude, I'd be upset if I was him. Of course I would. You kidding me? I'm the filmmaker guy. I make a movie. Nobody cares for it and then I start shilling very bizarre products and then everybody hates me. Meanwhile, this dude who's not a filmmaker goes out and makes a film and it's way more successful and liked. >> Yeah, it's uh it's the kind of thing we >> only normal to be uh to be a bitter about that. >> He's got film making experience. He's made things because I haven't seen them but people have talked about like these projects that Markiplier has made that are very much more cinematic. He's got like experience, but he's still undeniably from a lot of people's perspective just through and through a YouTuber. He is he's Mr. YouTube doing >> things and he's a gaming YouTuber. Like not not the kind of YouTuber that you think of as being like >> you're expecting art essentially from >> go around wearing a shirt that literally says I'm a filmmaker. So >> yeah, >> he really wants you to know that he's a filmmaker and it didn't do him. He watched this movie. >> Expectations have been set, right? cuz uh Stuckman isn't just reviewing films. He's he's got his like I wanted to be a film a director since I would could remember. I made all these short films when I was younger and then big bigger better budgets more networking and I've been working with this doing that and my film making journey blah which has just come to a full stop. Still waiting for the next chapter on that what's going on. I mean there there will be no next chapter I think is the the the reality >> cuz >> um I mean if it was like especially with uh with the sort of I guess what could be said to be the trends of the last year of certainly the horror >> film making world it's like I don't know why would you even bother with a Chris Starkman at this point you know what do you gain from that I think and probably came up when we reviewed it at the time he might get another chance just not direct the biggest problem is the fact that he wrote Shelby Oaks and he can't do he can't write for [ __ ] >> in terms of how it's directed. There's nothing exceptionally good about it, but it's also like it's not the worst directed thing you've ever seen. So, you know, if he comes in on time and under budget and it's basically competent, then someone at some point might say, "Hey, here's a cheap guy who needs a job, uh, will give him an adaptation of this, you know, small YouTube product or video game and then he might find more success." Shelby Oaks is just it was his own thing from beginning to end and that's what kind of doomed it. even his own friend said like I think Chris would be a great director of future things but maybe he should take a step back from writing >> that's so funny >> yeah [laughter] >> well then and then all those ads and it's like man I don't know it just did something to him but uh I've said and I maintain I would like him to be able to keep making them and make better things that he's making and you know what find what you're passionate about for [ __ ] sake I beg you. It's the thing that makes it so easy to talk about Iron Lung. It's like Markiplier is crazy passionate. So, it's like it just makes it fun. Even if even if you thought Iron Lung was like the most worstest mostestest worstest movie ever. >> Yeah. >> Still have that. >> Uh, if you made it if you made us sit through all those stuckman ads and you don't have the honey clip, I swear to Jibas. Have a wonderful day, Jens. Hi, Cap. I I can't remember if we did have have Do you mean the Joe and Honey clip from classic Firinos? I'm not sure. Uh, woohoo. EAP watching a Markiplier let's play. One of the reasons I found EAP was because Mark didn't upload fast enough back in 2018. I got bored. Now we've come full circle. Oh wow, that's a interesting way to discover EFA. But fair enough. 2018. I wonder what it was. If it was a connection like a video game or something. lock lungs. Since the surname Sismanski is most likely Polish, here's a quick lesson in our language. The Polish Sz and CZ are equivalent of the English SH and CH. For example, uh seri >> should be read as I don't even know if I'm getting any of that right, but sure. Thumbs up. I like that they said it's a lesson and I [ __ ] it completely. >> Everybody gives We had a Polish girl in my class in school whose name was I think was it like Wiz Nevki or something like that, but it's obviously spelled really weird cuz it's Polish. And this poor kid came in and was told to like find her and read a message. And he came in and he say I got a message for first name V got a message for you. Like everyone just guessed obviously only person with the unpronouncable name in the entire class. Uh, Cats versus Cthulhu is a game on Steam. Very well. Mhler being an OG Game Grumps fan feels like he knows how I feel seeing Post John Game Grump still doing numbers. Aaron especially looks dead inside. Yeah, but they that's that's part of like the theory on why they split in the first place. John Jafari was more interested in the sort of like I I say this it sounds like I'm joking but more interested in the creative expression of let's plays I think as silly as that sounds cuz they both made fun of the concept well before they made Game Grumps. And the the idea was like if we're doing this it's got to be from a place of passion. It's got to be that we play games that no one else really let's plays from like ages ago that mean something to us and that we've got to spend the time not only making jokes that are like good quality but for it to be edited such that it like you know provides something extra and then of course um you know do analysis and talk about what it means to you as a as a game and everything. And so they were doing that and they gained a [ __ ] ton of fans including myself. I thought game would at its peak their Sonic 06 playthrough is [ __ ] hilarious. It's like excellent TV, if you will. But a bunch of other stuff they made was really good as well. I like their Castlevania playthrough and stuff. But um what happened was Aaron is like, "We need to record way more, way faster, and we need to do modern games." And then I think, as far as I'm aware, I'm speculating, but this is based on a lot of discussion. There's other stuff that people have mined to figure out what happened. But it does seem like between the two of them, one of them went to like hypers scripted what you would call quality productions uh that rarely come out and the other one went to crazy slotpipe factory just splurging out everything possible constantly. I I'm assuming I must have talked to you about it before, Frankie, but they had a variation of their show called like Sleepy Grumps or Tired Grumps. And the idea was they they've had a long day of doing [ __ ] and they're borderline falling asleep, but they need to record some let's plays. >> So, it'll just be them playing a game and they're like, >> "That's a hellish existence." [laughter] >> It's like, "What the hell? I don't think you should be making it at that point." It's like, "No, no, no. It's tired. grub. Don't worry, bro. >> That's That's just >> dude we are like humans are like so willing to become batteries like in various forms. I'm not even I'm just saying that's that's all of us. I think in in some way, shape or form are willing to become a battery. [clears throat] Holy [ __ ] >> Are you saying everybody's a cipher? Um, I'm saying that there are a lot more ciphers than Neos. A lot. And that if you were honest with yourself, you're probably way more likely to be a cipher than a than a Neo. I think that's I think that's all I uh that's all that's leading me to sort of think about. >> Is it is it better to be a cipher in self-denial or a self-aware cipher? >> Um, would it be that? Well, I guess the cipher and self-denial is maybe less likely to harm people. I guess maybe. I don't know. No, I don't know. In fact, I'm not even sure that I believe that, right? Like >> I realized when I was asking like it's always going to depend on the context. I suppose >> he could still be unplugging everybody and, you know, killing them and everything. >> Oh, I didn't mean in the context of the Matrix. I meant in like a philosophical way like like someone says I'm happy to just work 9 to5, watch a movie, hang out with someone with some beers and go to sleep and never think about anything until I die. Um, which >> the fact that they've already thought about that though, that's almost like the thing. It's like I uh I think that the kind of person who would say that probably is a little bit more thoughtful than they might give themselves credit for. >> Um, >> versus the person who's like I'm changing the world and what they're doing is like >> Oh, no. I mean, I think I have to like I like the cipher who's honest with himself. I uh I I like honesty in terms of people's assessments of themselves compared to I like I mean if there's anything that's particularly insufferable at somebody who thinks that they're the protagonist when they're not. >> There's nothing actually wrong with being at peace with like participating in that way. I think I think a battery has got to be something a bit more >> um >> Yeah. No, that's actually humiliating. I don't I don't think that like that what that was said there is like actually a bad thing at all. It's more so like it's it I mean because there's a big difference between yeah I want to work the 9 to5 and live for the weekend compared to I want to turn myself into a content factory. >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. It's it's tight because the >> in my head when I said 9 to5 I was thinking about like the sleepy grass thing of like you're not >> you're not making anything and you don't find you just you exist. >> Like I I way more respect the dude who just works sort of the normal retail job like 9 toive or even unusual hours and then on the weekend buys a jet ski and goes and uses it. That's way more that's way better and cooler to me than sleepy grumps. what you've just told [laughter] me about that like >> cuz I know how it sounds but like stacking shelves as being like a derogatory like yeah but that's actually productive like that actually helps society a lot of the jobs that people don't want to do are like yeah they're a lot more useful to the world [laughter] than then hey let's record us playing video games but the whole point is we're incredibly [ __ ] tired. [laughter] What the [ __ ] That's like that's so that's horrible. It's part of why we um we changed the format for reap to an extent because you know the getting to like 11 hours on doing whatever. It's just like all of us are basically zombies which by the way is a guarantee on the uh the anniversaries but that's a gimmick so you get to have access to it. Yeah. >> Um see woohoo. Um oh wait I read that one actually. There we are. I don't like Expedition 33's endings. It trivializes all of the Maybe maybe should read this spoileryish just in case you guys actually want to play it. >> Mhm. >> Um it trivializes what people have gone through. I'll just put it that way. Um uh okay. Well, so I've read the rest of it. That's interesting because that that's really a POV thing. If you think it makes it meaningless, um, let's just say you could transfer this thought to um, well, to an extent you could, we were just talking about like batteries and the Matrix and stuff. Do you think every decision in the Matrix is meaningless because it's a simulation? >> No. >> Like, well, it's really, you know, or what about the hopes and dreams of the people in there? Are they meaningless because it's a simulation? kind of awkward cuz it feels like it needs to expand out to you could just expand it to life. Is like if if God doesn't exist, does that mean that everything that anybody chooses to say or do is meaningless? >> Or if it turned out we were in a simulation. >> Yeah. >> But well, >> like it's just, you know, I mean feels like there's plenty to explore there. I would say if uh if the nature of what makes something meaningful is uh it's uh it's it's realness, whatever that whatever that means. Cuz I mean, you know, is anything that you did in a video game meaningful if it is not reflected in like the real world in any capacity? Does that make it meaningless? >> Questions for the ages or something? >> Sure. Think about it. Yeah. Spend some time thinking about that, I guess. >> [laughter] >> Uh, cool premise, but you don't learn any of this if exposition and a single computer doesn't explain. The game leans heavily on, as you already know, >> the game. Yeah. I mean, the game it was made very quickly. >> Really simple and small. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Uh, he comes back to the game later when it gets an law update, which becomes a main source that the movie adapts. We did indeed cover that. I was just given the full history sort of thing when we broke it down. Autoc cannibalism or eating yourself has been proven to be extremely ineffective in keeping yourself alive. Whatever energy and nutrition gained from eating a limb would go to healing instead of sustaining. Yeah, I suppose I don't know enough about this, but I would imagine there's no point in eating a limb because you will eventually eat yourself anyway. Like that's what the body does. it. You wouldn't need to actually do Yeah. Eat muscle and you don't need to go and, you know, cut something off and then try to make yourself eat it. It's like, no, the body will take care of that. >> It'll eat all the muscle and all the >> less horrifying way. >> Yeah. And then if it's eating your [ __ ] bones or whatever to stay alive, yeah, you're already dead. Don't worry about it. >> Straightforward cannibalism, on the other hand, you know, there's merits. >> Oh, yeah. Eating other people, go for it. Uh, in certain contexts, of course. Menheim and Fringleton, can you two dust off your PS4s and play the PS4 version of Lord of the Ring and convince Platoon to play Lord of Ring on his Xbox One? I don't think I don't think we can convince him to do that. I don't think that's in our power. >> No, it's not. >> Maybe on a stream if you set a goal of $10,000. >> Let's see if that happens. You can play it on your Xbox One. Uh achievement for crashing into a wall, but not for being a pro gamer and going crashless. Shake my head. Yeah, that's actually fair. You get an achievement for crashing but not for for crashless. That's that's true. That's terrible game design. Um, is he called John iron lung because his lungs are made of iron or because he inhaled iron and or you can only breathe iron and is that unhealthy for him? Uh, if you could only breathe iron, I I assume you'd either be dead or it is healthy for him. Like I doubt there's much of a middle between if you're just breathing iron. I don't even know what a creature looks like if it's just breathing iron to be honest with you. But yes, he was called John Iron Lung or John Lung, I think, is the better one. I don't often catch the streams, but I've been watching the VODs for years. Thanks for all the great entertainment. Again, we want we do want to just mention every once in a while there are people who only watch live and there are people who only watch the VODs. It's interesting. I don't know. It feels like there's going to be a culture difference there of some kind. And then there's people who don't even know about the difference between the two channels. We say hello to both of you. Or I guess this this video only goes out to the VOD people. So, um I guess you guys in a way can catch everything, but the live people can can miss stuff if if they only do live. Lord of lung iron or is it Lord of Iron Lung? I think I prefer Lord of Lung iron. Sounds more goofy. Want to see an indie darling with a neat concept and character writing? Iron Lung was great. But I'm actually talking about the amazing digital circus. It's also hier. People do be talking about it. Um, less and less these days cuz less of it is coming out. But maybe when season 2 rolls around, it's going to be crazy again. If only I was there. Destiny 2 is worse now than its first year. Only the predatory monetization removing content. Now they're using it to advertise marathon. Um, I think it was mentioned, uh, it happened to you, Frankie, but you boot up Mastief Collection and the game eventually was like, "Hey, Campaign Evolved is out. Go buy it." >> And you're like, "Uh, no, actually, thank you. Go away." >> Like, oh, no. Unfortunately, yes, I already have. I beat you to it game. >> Also, [ __ ] you for doing that, for telling me for advertising. >> For reference, Bungie said Destiny 2 was 5 weeks away from closing in year 1, showing low player count since last year. 200k average across all platforms. >> Yeah. Okay. I don't care about Destiny. Like I don't I um I'm really not in this case where I feel sad about it like coming to an end. Like I don't really I don't like it. Like when I look at Destiny, I think of what I thought that game was going to be and actually have like a worthwhile story and [ __ ] And like, yeah, all I can think about is the fact that I, you know, I appreciate that that's a game that people like, but um yeah, I don't give a [ __ ] about Destiny or what's going on with Bungie uh as a company like right now, you know, in in uh in in this year. Uh took a break from Destiny 2, came back wanting to play Mars. Turns out Mars and Earth disappeared and I needed to go to the moon to investigate. Just terrible the way they locked you out of content. Yeah. No, it's uh I remember that. I remember um I remember I wanted to play Destiny in like 2015 and I couldn't because I didn't buy the Taken King and so I couldn't play the [ __ ] game. Like I couldn't play anything >> and it's just like Yeah, man. And I'm meant to be like upset about you know the fate of this series or of Budgie. Like I don't know, man. It's uh like I just cannot I don't care. I just I don't care. Yeah. Uh, by the way, I don't know why the general public loves some of D2's expansions. None of them are above a three out of 10 at most, especially since the story is abysmal. I wouldn't know. >> I just I don't Yeah, I don't care about Destiny as a as a series. I um I remember I'm pretty sure cuz I remember uh this is what I mean. This is how like out ofd my references are cuz I remember like how when the game came out there was speculation about how the story had been changed from its original intention that like the traveler was meant to actually be like the villain. Um and that and that eventually the uh the the hub would would shift from the city uh that the traveler hovers over on Earth to uh to that that place that was out in like the asteroid belt or wherever it was. Um I remember all of that. I remember there were cut scenes that were shown in some of those earlier trailers that aren't even in the game. Um, there was a whole bunch of like allegory and stuff that was meant to be interesting that just isn't there at all. Um, something happened and that was around the time that plenty of like sort of important people at Bungie left. Joe Stanton left. Marty O'Donnell got fired. Um, yeah. This is what I mean. It's just like I don't [laughter] you know if if that's like sort of my starting point is oh there was like this cool story that maybe never materialized for who knows why. Um and then the game comes out and it's got like no story um a pretty [ __ ] weak competitive multiplayer which is kind of the thing that I'm I was often most interested in in these types of games at the time. I'm like, "Yeah, I don't, you know, whatever whatever ends up if that gets sacrificed for marathon, it's like, well, I guess I don't really give a [ __ ] either way. Which one gets to exist?" And um neither of them will probably exist in due time. I mean, Bungie's probably screwed. I think Marathon only has like 3,000 active players right now. So, yeah, probably was a bad idea to kill Destiny in favor of it, but I don't really Yeah, I'm not I'm not fussed one way or the other. Uh, also Earth and Destiny 2 didn't disappear, but Mars did. >> All righty. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Does Fringy even like video games? >> Yeah. >> I mean, he's uh Yeah, he he likes a lot of them. A lot of them. He likes First Light, James Bond. Remember that? >> Why' you No, I didn't. >> Oh, sorry. pretty said that they liked it and then they never talked about it again and they don't care about any of the forthcoming content. >> Well, there's already like the the post about like we probably won't even get a sequel or at least a sequel that it matches it spirit because the way that the the rights and the companies and publishers and developers work and it's like oh no >> what a shame. Uh does Ringy even play Lord of Ring on his PS4? >> No. No, apparently not. Lung of Steel saw someone say they're going to start calling Killian Murphy English instead of Irish as punishment for being in the new Harry Potter. Just when I think I've seen every type of racism, they drop a new one. >> I don't even [laughter] I don't even know. >> I just Okay. I just want him to do it to his face. Just do it. Uh I'd say that's the reason why. I just want to see what he'd say. >> The lungs of us. The stuckman can't even fathom the lungman's passion. No. Uh, no. And it's kind of fascinating to me in a way the um because the lack of passion for YouTube was one thing because you assume it's all packed into his love for movie creation, film making and stuff, but then you're like, wait a minute. You don't even seem particularly passionate about that either. Like what's what's going on? What's happening, man? And for all I know, he might be going through some like existential crisis regarding all of it. like what what is his next cuz it he kind of killed his pathway on YouTube to some extent uh in favor of this >> and nobody cared. Yeah. And then when he came back he's like well I got to do these ads so you know and then now everybody's mounted him so yeah what is he to do? >> Oh no arcade lung of legends. Yeah, why not? The lung of Zelda. Lung of Ring Gollang. Lunging man. Or is it Iron Lung? Never mind. That's taken. Thor lung and thunder. Take on Me is actually one of AHA's worst songs. Crazy talented band. I mean, hey, if your worst song is that, I think you're doing all right. Yeah. Breaking Lung. Protagonist does have lung cancer. You can make that work. Yeah. Um, haven't seen it, but glazing from Mark's fans would make you think it's the best thing since sliced bread. Maybe they're right. Anyways, a non-lazer, especially with certain games. You Dumbo should play DDLC. I mean, his fans were obviously going to do that cuz they're mega excited that he got he got to make it, you know, especially following like him creating. >> He said they were obviously going to do that, but what happened to the Stockman fans? You think they were obviously going to be Glazing Shelby Oak and they didn't? Uh well some okay some of them did up until the the those like triple threat of ads came out. And do you remember the threes that were like, "Okay, can we admit now that it's shit?" And it was like, "You shouldn't you probably shouldn't like admit that you you just had that perspective. You just waited to not like him." Cuz I guess what I'm saying is, you know, there's going to be a cross-section between thinking something is good slash you just want something to be successful because of who made it. And it's like whatever. That's a reality, I suppose. But um I'm sure there were some people who said Shelby Oaks was a masterpiece. one or two accounts out there, right? Like one guy. >> I don't know. Do you think there's a single person on this planet that has ever uttered those words? >> Chris Duckman. >> I don't even think he would. >> Well, [laughter] uh, so already his observations are infinitely more soulful compared to Stuckman. He sounds excited to share, but he wants to be careful, too. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, um it's just it's just fun to watch him talk about making a movie and why he wants to do it versus Stuckman that makes it sound I don't know chalky and dry and like why are we here sort of thing. Uh oh man, there was so much to account for like the blood and the blood. So much blood. This man must dream of blood now. You saw that picture where he was in the hospital or [ __ ] got blood in his eyes or whatever. Uh thoughts on >> plungabus. Sorry, I mean pluribus. >> Uh I think we've talked about it on some of these catch-ups, but like the broadly I like Pluribabus, but it's uh it's taken way too [ __ ] long to tell story that is like three episodes of TV's worth in a whole season and then given us a break of what is it? Three years at least. >> That's pretty [ __ ] crazy. Um, it's it's like wellmade from a production standpoint. There's lots of things I like as to what it's up to, but then there's also just frustrations that sort of got in the way. And then just the broad matter of like what what the [ __ ] are we doing messing around like this? Um, by the time season 2 rolls around, I will have to consider whether or not I need to rewatch season 1 because on one hand, it's been a while, but on the other, I think I'm not going to forget exactly what the full events are, you know, which is the event happens and then by the end of it, she's anti the people there. >> Might even be the biggest criticism. There is just not enough of the show to forget. >> Yeah. Uh, there is no Zosa, only Zuul. You think people were trying to tear down Mark and Iron Lung on Chris's behalf? Or is it safe to say Stuckman is burning it down with the ads he's taking? Nobody out of passion for Shelby Oaks is going to tear down Iron Lung. That person doesn't exist, I'm afraid. Is it safe to say this is the best film we've gotten based on a game? Would it competition be just the Mario movie? What else? Uh, >> that other YouTuber movie was based Was that based? I can't even remember what the [ __ ] it was called, so this is going to be a useless potential answer. Wasn't there another YouTuber movie based on a game that did really well like a couple of years ago? >> Um, kind of blanking right now. Yeah, >> but I mean it would probably be I mean you've seen the Sonic movie. How does that fair? >> I mean those are not good movies. Like they're not good movies. Um I don't even know that you could say that they're okay movies. They're they're pretty flawed. >> Um I guess the question then is does Iron Lung defeat the Mortal Kombats? All of the the old and new ones >> kind of tough. >> I don't know. >> I didn't see Pokemon detective Pikachu thing. I didn't see that. >> Yeah, but I assume it sucks. >> Which then means I guess is is the ultimate competition the Mario movie? There's got to be something else, right? >> There has to be more. But I'm >> The thing is we're we're not counting TV show adaptations. I guess funny movie ones. In that room, you get a little bit better. Even though you know your strongest cases have horrible second seasons. >> Yeah, like Halo that first season was so good. So sad that they messed it up. >> Um Super Mario Galaxy riff sitting in a submarine taking little pics with bad intent. Blood runs all around his hell. Worried ears tracking nervous pings. Hey Iron Lung, apologies to Jethro. Have a shilling. Well, thank you. And yes, Justice Lung, directing people is difficult, but directing a room of artists on a movie seems harder than directing engineers to build a bridge. We're probably well, I wouldn't want to make any claims, but I can see why that might be the case in the sense of like there's definitive things to do when building a bridge, but a lot of interpretation and sort of adaptation and expression happens when you're doing creative stuff. And so a lot of people will, you know, go in certain directions. You might be like, "Hey, I didn't say to do that." Building a bridge, I guess you could have that happen, too. But, um, I assume everything or at least a lot more things are, um, set in terms of like where things are going and what things do, but again, wouldn't know. I don't build bridges, not physical ones. Anyway, can you play Lung of Ring Gollum on your PS lung? Maybe I will. Kind of a shame I won't be able to see this movie from where I live, but to see this manifest and be successful is pretty cool. Yeah, I uh inclined to agree. And they got the E meme coming up. Uh greetings, massive flames. Kudos to Mark for being an upstanding guy with this project. Here's hoping uh more take his approach. Yeah, obviously hope we get like better better stuff, but I I don't think there's anything wrong with like again the enthusiasm, the prep, the even the marketing to some extent. And um I just I think there's something fun about him basically being like I'm a YouTuber called Markiplier and here's my movie in theaters now sort of thing. But good for you, buddy. Markip Market Plunger. All right. I am a filmmaker. I am a filmmaker. Dr. Han Mark's work ethic and energy cannot be topped. It is pretty up there. Who was more distracting, Mark or Philosophy Tube? Philosophy Tube is not even close. Mark um it's weird like I said and I think that was an inevitability for people who knew him from his channel was like, "Oh, there he is. YouTube man, but I knew he was a YouTuber." And I think that was I was kind of pleasantly surprised by how he performed. I I think he did a pretty good job in that. Like he looked like he fit it. He's not like a topnotch actor, but he was way more seamlessly integrated into his film than I was expecting him to be. Whereas Philosophy is just like, "Oh, I know that you're a [ __ ] YouTuber, and I know that that's why you were cast or one of the reasons you were cast." >> Yeah. Um, just got out of the theater seeing the movie. I liked it, but I had some issues. Looking forward to see what you all thought. Well, did a full episode on it. It was more distracting. Oh, no. I got that one. Just got out of the Oh, wait. They repeated it. That's what confused me. Modernday Solaris way too long. I remember Solaris. You guys ever see Solaris? >> Yes, but a long time ago. >> Long time ago. Mhler said toss. I do. I do say it every once in a while. Yes. >> It's what you do to cattle, isn't it? >> Yeah. You toss cattle get tossed around is like a saying. It's sort of it's like a rep it's like a thing about like you don't want to let yourself get tossed around like cattle. Enough is enough sort of thing. >> Very common thing. >> Uh so Fallout Operation Sunburst did more for Fallout franchise than Bethesda the past decade. >> Probably true. I don't know what that is. Knowing Mark is Magnumopus would be home world. Fair enough. Again I wouldn't know that his name is Bill. This happened to my buddy Eric. All right. So much for Bill and Eric. I hope they're okay. Or go the exact other way. If you don't return with the submarine, we will end every single one who got captured from Eden Station. It's just discussing options for the the story. Just learned Australia sees the moon upside down. Fringy lives in a weird land. >> Maybe you see it upside down. Maybe it's upside down and inside out like all the time. I don't know what that would mean, but it's pretty scary. How do the files affect our perception of the world and entertainment? Side note, I'm into Iron Lung now. Um, how do they how do the files affect our perception of the world and entertainment? I guess knowing more about why he's down there and then the actual hopes of him being able to do anything and the context of the missions and stuff, it's really just going to affect you, how much you care about any of that. Uh, if you imagine that situation, I I suppose. But yeah, I mean, it's supposed to just make you more invested as does lore broadly and in a lot of things. Makes it feel more real. There's more stuff going on. Uh, most of the hallucinations started when the port hole cracked and he got sprayed. Yes. And uh there was speculation on what he had drank from the little like help package thing. The camera being an X-ray machine is great. Allows you to see the monster without seeing what the actual look of the creature is. Just great. Yeah. And I think it looks creepy both ways. So that's good stuff. You guys ever seen a near-death experience video? There are people who briefly die and go up to heaven or hell or both. Look up one. It could change your life. Well, the problem is, and I assume the two fellas here would have a similar perspective, when someone says they experienced going to heaven or hell and then came back, what I would assume is their brain was [ __ ] up completely because it was lacking blood or oxygen and it made them see [ __ ] all kinds of visions or experiences. And because they already agree with certain things, they then contextualize those things in a particular way and then describe it in a particular way. It's kind of how miracles work, right? you'll uh you'll opt for whatever you currently believe in. Uh there was a there was a time in my uh my school where a teacher had mentioned her like a brother or something got hit by a car or a sister. This happened so long ago, but she said like a family member got hit by a car and they got straight back up and they'd said right before the car hit them they'd know they knew that God would protect them or something and then they didn't have a single wound and they were checked out by doctors and they didn't have a single wound and someone in the class was like, "How do you know it was uh like how do you know which God did it?" And then they were like, "Well, it's [laughter] it's something you feel you you know like well okay." I mean like there's a few of them that might looked out for you. You know, you never know. I think Family Guy makes that joke as well of like all like three major gods sort of looking like it wasn't me. Like he's like I didn't do it. >> Pray fervently to Jesus as you headong into your car crash and then Ganesha reaches down with one of his elephant [laughter] arms and just picks you up. I've got you son. Don't worry. >> You're like oh god which sorry which one were you? And he's like Ganesha. And you're like oh yeah I wow you are real. I believe in you now 100%. It's one of those like it's a repeat phenomena which makes it interesting but the nobody really likes boring biological explanations but your brain releases all manner of bizarre cocktails of neurochemicals and hormones when you are at the brink of death which are known to produce hallucenic effects. Um and so and then then you combine that with the fact that people often remember events into the past which they learned after the event but they trick themselves into thinking it's memory. So, a lot of the stories for near-death experiences are like, "Oh, but um there was a shoe on top of a like a cupboard and I couldn't see that from my deathbed, but I saw it when I was floating up. Um and then I remembered seeing it when I was back in my body cuz I didn't die." And so, so how could I possibly if my soul hadn't left my body? Well, that's probably cuz you learned about the shoe way after the fact and then you tricked yourself into thinking that you didn't know it at the time. And you know, it's it's so many complicated little neurochemical things going on. like you can still believe that God plays a role in you still being alive if you want to, but it's um a lot of the the purported like explanations for it or evidences for it don't tend to stand up to too much scrutiny. uh which sounds adjacent to like I used to be so interested in the concept of deja vu used to really make me wonder about sort of life and continuity and everything being like I'm I remember all of this having happened already so how is that possible or I like I dreamed it or something and then I just like a couple years ago read a theory about how it actually works for the mind of just when you experience something you can forget the the context of like experience it or whatever and then recontextualizing your brain as a memory of the thing that just happened like you like you have a longer term memory of it even though it's short term or something and then it'll deposit that in your own head as like a thing that you thought you remembered from ages ago but didn't actually and it just [ __ ] with you and I was like oh that's disappointing [laughter] that actually explains all of it and it's not even remotely magical. Oh, well, and and by the way, whenever this stuff comes up, it might be why prestige is so meaningful to me. It's I do come back to, you know, there's so many fantastical things that I'm familiar with in some way or another, and then I read up on why it might happen, and I'm like, oh [ __ ] that makes so much. Oh, okay. All right. And then you realize about yourself, like for a second there, it's like, I kind of wanted to believe in the crazier thing, more magical, more the the world is [ __ ] insane instead of solid all the way through as you might say. But hey, not going to knock anyone uh for sort of having these experiences and thinking about this sort of stuff. It it reminds me of, you know, like Boogie saying that the mushrooms thing. It's like he probably didn't actually have any much of any experience that was actually meaningful or spiritual. He just went nuts with [ __ ] mushrooms on his brain and he thought, I can use this as an excuse to say I'm a changed person. >> I can Yeah. shortcut character development, which uh I mean that's certainly an affliction to be avoided is the idea that you can shortcut character development >> or even force character development, you know. >> Uh yeah, there there's something to be said for that. I guess the thing is is that there's certain character development that if you're trying to force it, you know, in cases where you're trying to change like a negative attribute or >> an addiction or something into something positive, it's like, well, it's probably worth trying to do that anyway because of its benefit. But in the case of Boogie, it's like, "Yeah, man. If I I wish there was almost like a button I can press that would make everybody like me again." It's fairly silly sort [laughter] of sort of way to think about things. Uh, seeing the film next week, chat. Hosts won't get around to this for weeks. Play game first. Uh, you don't need to play the game, but you know, it's kind of fun if you do. >> And it's pretty short. >> Yeah. just realized he might be in trouble if in a situation where his lung needs to be punctured. It'll be very tough because his lungs are made of iron. True. Yeah, I'm going to have to sort that out. How did Simon's sub nuke the monster but not AA's? Um, so the the way that his sub he like rammed it and then exploded, right? I actually I can't remember. Didn't he set the thing to do something specific with this like core? >> I think so. I I think it's just a difference in how they were taken down. How does something become unforgivably holy? Unforgivably holy. >> I don't even understand what that >> holy as in religious or holy as in it has loads of holes in it. >> And why would that be unforgivable? Like that would be contextual, right? >> Well, the the way it's spelled is the religious version. Um, cuz I was thinking unforgivably holy could also relate to like a plot. But >> maybe if if your god is like a child sacrificing demon monster creature like Epstein but with magic >> and you were really really devoted to him. That would be unforgivably holy. But I don't know how that relates to Iron Lung at all. >> Hey, that's it. Uh, the iron lung implies only one lung is made of iron. Rag is not iron lungs. True. The sound thing was apparently a theater issue. Some theaters could apparently hear clearly for the scene while others couldn't. That is a major misfortune if it's a theater thing. >> Yeah, >> Nick Mo already has more character than Stuckman. Sure. The map vaded or in this case lunged. The map was a bit funky by the end for sure. Iron Lung broke the record for most fake blood used in a production of approximately 80,000 gallons. He beat the 2013 Evil Dead Remix record of 50 to 70,000 gallons. >> That is insane. But good for him, I suppose. It's a lot of work. >> I don't know when this will be read since I'm behind. But when they pull him up, they are excited since he found bones. They didn't know about SM8 yet and that was probably a fair addition to our breakdown at the time. To be fair to Mark, it's still a problem. But even Nolan has major issues with audio mixing. Very glad he took a short and put himself out there. Shot. Sorry. >> You say even Nolan. Like that's a surprise. >> Yeah, Nolan's known for that for some reason. Um, and I always want to bring up whenever it happens, it's like he wasn't known for it at one point. His movies didn't have a horrible mixing at one point. I don't know what happened to him. Do you see the thing about like uh the Odyssey broke the record for loudest part of a movie ever? >> Yeah. Wasn't it the Polyfamous Scream was like 12? >> Yeah. >> Five. I want to say decibels. Basically, it's actually injurious to your health to go watch the Odyssey in the cinema and you shouldn't do it. >> I've seen people sort of making but I was just like, Nolan, why do you think you're breaking that record? Is it because you're so d gosh darn impressive? Or is it because people don't want to break that record? Like, bro, I made a 10 billion hour movie. I've broken the record. It's like, okay, why do you think uh why do you think you did that and no one else did? It's crazy. Um, what are your top three favorite Pokemon types? For me, it's dragon, psychic, and fire. Electric type is cool, too, but it doesn't have nearly enough cool mons. Probably psychic, dark, and ghost. >> Uh oh, yeah. Yeah, psychic, dark, and ghost. Yeah, cuz they create just they're just cool. There's cool. >> I'm detecting a theme with those. Yeah, >> they'd be up on my list as well, I think. Probably not dark. I never really unders I don't think I ever paid too much attention to dark types, but I do like psychotic types, ghost types, and then [ __ ] yeah, I don't have no idea actually. I don't know what the third one would be. >> What I know that I hate >> is like they added fairy type and [ __ ] No, we don't need that. >> Yeah, that's a bit silly fairy type. Like, all right, I don't know about that. Uh uh I mean yeah, water is probably one. Uh I like uh h uh I kind of like uh I like steel type. That's kind of a cool one. And then um yeah, I well h and well hey maybe I'm boring cuz I like fire type as well. >> [clears throat] >> There you go. Solid solid selection. What can you say? Uh, Gamer Brain says rare ingredients equals better. Exactly. Iron Lung, Good Boy, and Godzilla Minus one have shown that you don't need 200 million to make a successful good movie. To be fair, that isn't news. Like, it's we we've been doing this for a long time. Not not us specifically, but movie makers. They, you know, we've got lots of lowbudget crazy good films out there. Uh, I suppose maybe you're just sort of noting that in this day and age, uh, especially now with balloons budgets being [ __ ] crazy that maybe there's something to figure out for all Hollywood in there. Who knows? I want Markiplier to make a vanished movie now. I don't know if he's announced anything um, like in terms of what he's up to in even pre-production, but I'm sure we'll hear more eventually. Uh, rags, you and Mhler are too harsh. I say you. Is this directed at Fringy then or platoon? I don't know who you is exactly, but uh, let's just say everyone's harsh on McDonald's. You must live near one with bad cooks. If you were at a good McDonald's, what meal would you order? Also, hierag. >> McDonald's has cooks >> allegedly. I thought it was just like one big pipe and it all just flows out, but no. What would I order? Uh, nothing. Nothing crazy. I like um there something probably like a chicken a spicy chicken thing. If they've got a variation of that in some way like a burger or or little little nuggets or something. I I'll get I'll grab that. Do you do you guys have a preference? >> No advances in this. It's the chicken legend I think is it's been so many years since I had McDonald's. Like sometimes they'll do those special limited edition burger things >> but I don't know what the last one Yeah, it's been so long. Either one of those or just Yeah, chicken. Chicken's always good. >> Uh I don't know, man. Double quarter pounder. I guess [laughter] got to get double >> more food. >> Uh could Mark convince you to play Lord of Ring on PS4? Hopefully he plays Lord of Ring on PS4. That's what you'd want. Do maybe a does a film adaptation of it with Andy Circus, you know. Uh, One Take did a video about Rey's triumphant return. By comparison, Markiplier sort of gets acknowledged. Huh. Triumphant return. Please don't tell me that they they're referring to that way. I'm hoping that's about send help at least cuz that's like his film. Um, do you share the you're supposed to be critical of your peers work because it helps them sentiment for drinkers short film? Sure. But obviously the thing is I've said before I I know so much about how that was made like uh that it's it's it wouldn't be like I would deliver it to him, you know, personally. It's not like I'm going to make a video on that or anyone else's short really. Um but yeah, I think I think some of the best help you can get when you're sort of making something is just to test it out on your on your buddies. I fully recommend it. Um, but you know, sometimes that avenue is not even 100% on the table when you get into productions that are as wacky as uh different countries, different people, different timets, schedules. It's hard enough to get these this these three you see here together to do some recordings for EAT minis. And two of us from the same I was about to say same country. How insulting to both of us. [laughter] Uh, get bark appliesed. Beautiful. Iron lung is better than Rogue Elements. I I think uh drinker said that Shelby Oaks was better than Rogue Elements and he thinks Iron Lung is way better than Shelby Oaks. So, looks like uh that would be his ranking for all I know. Who's the villain of Breaking Bad? It's Gus. Well, there can be more than one villain of Breaking Bad, right? I'm assuming the point that more people would want to make is the villain of Breaking Bad is clearly Walter White, but I mean, he was obviously a hero. He gave the >> spectum, I guess. >> He gave the good people of Albuquerque really wonderful high purity uh [laughter] [clears throat] >> um a shame Robert Mayette couldn't come here to blab for seven minutes straight about nothing and then call him Mark Pillar. Yeah. Uh that man has immense knowledge on crazy awesome Hollywood stuff. He has no idea what the [ __ ] a Markiplier is. Uh, so obviously he was a bit out of his depth with some of the conversation. Happens to everyone. Have you ever played Fire Emblem games? If not, you should try. They're pretty fun. Good old high fantasy strategy games. I've never played Fire Emblem myself. >> I've played almost all of them, I think. >> Oh, almost all of them. >> I think almost all. Yeah. From the beginning, like way way back. Um, the early ones are really fun. Mid ones are really fun. Gamecube ones peak. Um, and then three houses on the Switch pretty good. Fates is wait. Oh, now I'm getting them confused. Basically, the more close in time you get to the modern day, the more like generic weeb [ __ ] they are to the extent that I don't. It was Engage, I think, was the one I just didn't finish cuz all the like female characters are squeaky Japanese school girls and it's like and the story sucks. So, play the old ones. They're a lot of fun. Maybe give the new ones a swerve until the new the next new one is out and see if they've reverted course. Yeah, I've only played a couple myself and they are of the newer era. I played uh Awakening, that one was on DS, right? And then uh I think I played Three Houses, but I don't think I beat either of them. I think I stopped at some point. >> Um, I swear to Jasm disappointed. I I don't know if if this had come up, the Fire Emblem and I'd said I didn't play any of them on the stream as well. I'm sorry. I'll have to get around to the Fire Emblem at some point. I got so many things to play. It's a good problem to have in a way. In a way. Have you ever played Oh, wait. Yeah. Yeah. I read that one. Uh, he did a reverse charity live stream a few times. Reverse charity live stream. >> What does that mean? >> People give money to you. >> I think that's just the regular stream. [laughter] The charity live stream is already the the I assume that means something. Who knows? Uh, all right. No conspiracy. As a self- financed indie, Iron Lung bypassed the usual studio pipeline. Tracking sites beer briefly dropped it due to reporting lags and missing estimates causing a technical glitch. Yeah, there was a lot of speculation as to whether or not there was some sabotage going on because it was a out of usual uh industry setup sort of movie and the but that could be conspiratorial. I'm not going to say I can be definitive on either end of that. It's just that uh I know that there was a lot of speculation for it. Um, but no, it was cool that from what I understand that movie got to where it went because he just kept calling and kept pushing it into loads of different theaters and more of them that picked it up got like spammed with his own fans seeing it and then other theaters are like, "Whoa, we should get that one too until it became as big as it is." And now he's got a name and history so he probably can have a lot easier of a time getting the next one in. Um, I think that was like Cap was talking about, right? That's actually the biggest most impressive part of all of Iron Lung is more so the uh the distribution because there's lots of aspects to discuss but to go not through any kind of like industry connection and to do it yourself is kind of insane. >> Yeah, >> don't worry Mark Hommer guy is cool with people stealing content too as long as their name is Hassan. People still pissy about Mark sobbing. He's lost a lot of blood for crying out loud. Yes, it's one of the more common criticisms of him. In a lot of his stuff, he cries. Uh I think the first few times you see it, it's very very effective and meaningful, but then you start to just wonder, but I I still haven't been convinced ever that he's like a a fraud or a liar or a manipulator sort of thing. I think it's genuine. Some people end up crying a whole bunch. I don't know what else to say. Definitely felt that way in the stuff for Iron L. you you've poured so much time and your own money and your own work and everything and your life into making this thing which you then handled all distribution of yourself and you had to pressure people to you even put it in theaters and it comes out and it makes like $40 million if you're going to cry at all. I think that's probably an acceptable place to do it. >> Yeah, cuz the obviously you're I think referencing the it's when he's looking at the different availabilities and theaters and then he sees one in his hometown and it's like full like Yeah, I think I think that's fair. That's fair. Um, so did they get Joe in the honey? Joe is in the honey, dude. We got to get him out. That's That's the whole idea. These critters are not sweet or crispy massives down at the bottom of the ocean of blood. No one can hear you flee. I choose to remain here. They will get their tism and I will get my snee. There is one dude I think in Super Chats who's keeping crispy critters alive, which is atomic l atomic lung. Jesus atomic heart, right? like [laughter] this which uh that's getting a sequel as far as I'm aware. Good for them. Tomic Tommy Car is a very wacky uh wacky cave. Markiplier funny moments during Super Chat catchups when probably not going to happen, but hey, no nothing stopping you from searching those out. Evening lads, keep fighting the good fight. Well, thank you. Can we get a Nathan explosion styled blood ocean? >> I love Metal Aocalypse. So, I need to rewatch that sometime. Late and significantly less gay without rags. I hope the success and praise of this movie will bring about more sci-fi movies and TV shows with nonhumanoid aliens. H I don't know if we're going to get that from that, you know. But this is it's just the stupid obsession. What was the thing that was almost surpris Oh, yeah. Supergirl had like a handful of aliens in it. It was like, "Oh, good for you." I guess >> quite a lot actually. Probably more than a handful. Um they all the planets had a whole bunch. None of them made like a huge amount of sense where they were. They were all different, which is fine on that middle planet they go to cuz that's kind of the point. But um the other ones like every creature was slightly different. >> It's interesting cuz in the comics that is definitely not the case. There are they go to planets where pretty much all the aliens look very similar cuz you know, as you would expect. >> Um and that's I don't know. just that is really cuz I you know I imagine studios would be like yeah that was probably a mistake that it's like no the mistake was making this movie but if you want to make another movie that's got like a good script that has a bunch of cool alien designs that would be that would be neat but uh no I don't think that'll happen um the biggest problem with the film oh well this tells you how we've transitioned the biggest problem with the film was the fact that it was not explained why astrophasages need to get energy from the sun. The film only stated that they need CO2 which means they should stay in Venus all the time. I'm afraid I can't give you the answer to that. Maybe Andy Weer can though. Amaze. >> That's not detail the book would go into. I don't remember if it's in the film or not. I take it from that that it's not amaze. Amaze. Amaze. Also, fist my bump. Aren't you guys so excited for Fox Mloud in the new Mario Galaxy movie? Oh my god. >> Well, nope. >> No. Rags, you are sorely missed. Oh, and uh, hi Mark is the new Hi Rags and Rags, I miss you. Mh. Rags hug rags laughter. I don't even know if that's an actual emote, but yes. Um, no. Yeah, we rags would appreciate that. And uh, he's still we still got him. You you had him for a good old Why am I why am I brain blanking here? Halo. And what was the one before that? >> That one we just hit. What did we just do? >> Why Why am I What the [ __ ] It's literally like an empty room where >> Spider-Man. [laughter] Uh, I read that they took Ryan Gosling's beard off the poster for the notebook until he refused to promote the movie unless they put it back. Corporate said no one will look like a hero with a beard. What the [ __ ] [laughter] >> I can believe that. >> Okay. >> Producers did lots of wacky stupid things. >> Uh, big fan of the book and this is a great adaptation. My only big critique is that they left out most of the science from the book as well as the Aridian biology and culture which I loved in the book. Understand why they had to do it though. Well, hopefully this is a situation where the book is really good as a companion to the film and vice versa instead of it being like, you know, a situation where they work against each other, which is where a lot of George R. Martin stuff ends up. >> I think it would work as a companion because the thing that you can't adapt is that probably the majority of the science in the book from what I remember is all part of the internal monologue because it's written in first person. So for any part of the film where Rocky isn't present and nobody else is present either without him literally talking openly to camera I suppose you could do like a he's leaving more video logs kind of thing but then you would just have these long stretches of film which is nothing but expository dialogue. Um it's fine in a first person book because it is a stream of consciousness to a degree and it's also the internal workings of the mind but I think that the film keeps what most of what you need of it. Um, and if you want to understand more about the depth of it, then you go to read the book. >> Uh, Fringy, please. It's been 5 years now. Our son needs his father in his life. Please call me back, please. >> What? What kind of madness is that? >> I don't know. Uh, and this says character on the floor laughing really hard. I assume that's an big old emoji that's with YouTube. I don't know. Good job, Hollywood. You didn't [ __ ] up this one. Yeah. Job. What a nice surprise. Just like this movie. Good rat is hard to come by. Save Irid. Erid. I forget her. It is Erid, right? Uh for the quirky sediment formed critters. Of course. A shilling for the PHM astrofase meter. According to Andy Weir, you have to go down to the subatomic level to find scientific BS in PHM. The astrophase cell membrane can block nutrinos, which shouldn't be possible, otherwise hard science. Yeah, I listened to his interview with uh with Drinker. He's very down to earth and admits like he did what he can with what he had and that there were did a lot of research, but that you know, you hit some walls in certain places when it comes to the storytelling. But, you know, I I think he really did a good job. Amaze. Amaze. Only issue with PHM is how easy it is to communicate with Rocky, but maybe it's meant to stick with the idea that beings in the universe are more alike than not. Also, play DLC, Dumbos. I would have liked more on that, but I get why. I mean, it's a long film. There's a lot that happens in it. So, it's uh you know, they get some streamlining going and um they hit a lot of the important beats for the heart of the movie. Uh The Martian was pretty good. Insert Rockwell freedom of speech painting. I uh I just haven't seen The Martian in so long that I don't really want to make a statement on it, but I just >> I just I didn't like it anywhere near as much as I like uh Project Hail Mary. Um, The Martian is actually really good. Feels like you're being too mean to the film. Let Ridley Scott last good film be his last good film. >> Well, it might, you know, I don't know. Like I said, I'd have to rewatch it. I could speak more to that. The puppeteers for Rocky were dubbed Rocketeers. >> Beautiful. It's funny. Star Wars High Republic made a character a rock and we all mocked them. How can you care about a rock? Then I walked out of this movie and wow, good enough writing and I cared about a rock. I mean, yeah. I I can't even remember that. Was it like a big like static looking like an actual boulder or something? I remember it being kind of funny looking. >> Whatever it was, it was probably not well realized ultimately. >> I don't remember the design being like Rocky's. Not at all. But hey, you know. Oh, I don't even know what happened with all that that that leg of the um storytelling. Ah, the heck with it. Re-watching the film tonight. His [clears throat] last name is Grace. Hail Mary, full of grace. I think that's the idea. >> Mhm. >> Um, I really like this movie. I think the third act is inferior compared to the book since a huge arc of the character and pacing is cut to a single line. Would like to have seen that in the movie. Still good though. Yeah, I mean, from what I gather, there's there's just more in the book and some better things in the book that were left out, but that the film was a very very very strong attempt. Uh, Platoon, what's the song of the day? >> Um, um, um, um, um. >> Oh, well, since it's Project Hail Mary, what's the one that What's her name? Strat sings. Sign of the Times, Harry Sty. I don't know the song. I just remember that it's in the film, so it's come to mind. I think it's Harry Styles and I think it's Side of the Times. We'll go with that and hope that it's good cuz I don't know it. >> There you go. Uh, platoon. What if you were forced to eat steak and the only way to avoid it is to help a showrunner of Disney Daredevil get Marvel leadership role? >> Eat steak. >> Yeah. Uh, to save the Earth, all you need to do is collect astroofasages from the Prova belt between Venus and the Sun and fill the huge lamps in Earth's orbit with them. Fill the huge lamps. I'm not sure what you mean for sure. Uh, I do think an important aspect here that gets forgotten is that there's still a time crunch here. They only have a certain amount of time to produce fuel. I fair enough. Uh, drinker did a Chris Stuckman and advertised a very sus cash app. Guess I know where his priorities lie. Well, very sus and a scam. You know, there's going to be a very significant difference between those two. And then of course there's a big difference between people who do something about it when that's found out uh and they didn't know versus the ones that just let it slide. >> It is part of the cause. I mean it's unfortunately you if you do what a Stugman does and you basically just say yes to absolutely everything. People understandably assume that basically anyone shilling anything on YouTube is probably shilling some kind of scam cuz there's there's a whole bunch of them which are just total [ __ ] I think I know the one they're talking about with Drinker as well cuz that I've done a couple for them and then there was a story after I did the LA like midway through I think I'd done the last one for them then there was a story and it was like oh it is a scam so I said oh for [ __ ] sake but then it was investigated and it wasn't a scam so I said well for [ __ ] sake doubly [ __ ] sake now because that's like what I basic I said no to doing another one with them just cuz I don't want to have to figure out how to explain that to people it's just annoying but understandably I think people get really um suspicious when anything is [clears throat] just you product placement, but it's not all the same. That's that is something that has to be said. You know, a gambling ad, which is a gambling ad, is not the same as something that you just think sounds dodgy self-evidently. >> Yeah. The example I would want to bring up is candid. It's so perfect. The when watching a bunch of videos in what would have been dubbed the skeptic community or skeptosphere, whatever the [ __ ] back in the day, it's almost like a miracle. There's this there's this place that is all pro- free speech. It's called Candid. Everyone can say what they believe in and have good conversation and spread good vibes and all this sort of stuff. And you're like, "Wow, that's Yeah. And then they're like, "Yeah, and I'm sponsored by them and they seem great. You should check it out." It's like, "Oh, cool." Turns out the creator is like, you know, censoring and banning based on everything they personally want or agree with and a lot of backend [ __ ] and shady stuff. it gets revealed and it's like well all right everyone needs to sort of draw back on that and it feels like it's it's uniquely important to these creators to be saying something about this cuz they spend all day with videos talking about how censored the even YouTube or Twitter are it's like and this is something that you not only took money for but told everybody to to go on to so surely and instead of because this is the thing there's degrees to this you could say it's bad and move on it's like there you go you could say it's nothing or that it's bad and continue to get paid by them. Again, this is like a different factor, but then say nothing, but then you can say, you know, what they a lot of them ended up doing, which is no, it's fine. N don't worry about it. Nah, it's good, actually. And it's like, whoa. And it just felt like mega corruption, I guess. And I still feel bad that like the few people that sort of the YouTubers that stood up as a sort of like this is terrible got near squashed by a wave of all the others being like [ __ ] you. Stop ruining our like you know our coin here. Um cuz there was a sentiment too of like who cares? Okay fine. It's a censoring platform whatever. >> Oh >> the whole point of selling it is that it's not that. >> Yeah. So, um, you know, it's for me it's just it there's just a lot of pieces to the to the story that define what kind of person you're dealing with, and that's important. Who's Mary and why do we want hail to fall on her? >> I mean, it's got to be done. Yeah. Yeah, it's got to be done. >> What Super Mario Galaxy and the Holocaust can teach you about the meaning of life is a real title of a real video essay. I mean, I've I've obviously got to I've got to see if that's true. >> Is that real? Let's see. >> Good [ __ ] god, it is. >> Someone called stable stew. >> Well, it's just Super Mario Galaxy. It's not any There's nothing. >> I mean, it's got 100k views, >> but this video will be talking about several heavy topics. It opens with this video will discuss several heavy topics. [laughter] >> Really? [snorts] I think it's real like like a like a honestly genuine like what we can learn from Super Mario Galaxy and the Holocaust. >> Oh god, there's a chapter called suffering. >> Then it's just all Mario Galaxy footage. What in the world? Okay, I'll have to >> like, oh, the tremendous suffering of the Lumas is they sacrificed themselves to rebuild the galaxy, but they still rebuild something better after the fact. You'll be like, I would be my guess at the theme of that video. But that's an amazing title. >> That's uh something else, man. All right. You physically cannot click after seeing that title. Well, yeah. All right. Fair enough. Uh, Fringy, what if the showrunner of Disney's Daredevil was given Figi's role at Marvel and the only way to undo it is to admit that you are a bird. >> I I mean I don't >> I don't think What would change really? It's not like Yeah. Yeah. >> making good decisions. >> Exactly. So I don't >> Yeah. I don't I don't even know what the point of that. Yeah. Means nothing to me really. Uh, if you could have any suit of armor from fiction, what is it? Iron Man. Probably. [laughter] >> Probably the most versatile armor that you can get. >> They're so [ __ ] cool, though. Armors you might grab just for the keep them in like a little case. I wouldn't mind Isaac's. It would be really [ __ ] cool to have the >> mind armor. >> Yeah. Anyone you're thinking >> I could actually wear it without it like breaking my bones. That would be a plus. >> Mandalorian armor is kind of fun. Not the Mandalorian armor, but Mandalorian armor is quite fun. >> Any particular one you you'd do? >> I don't know. Then Boba Fett just looks amazing. Except when he gets old and fat, then he looks [ __ ] But, you know, you wouldn't want that version of him. >> It's either that or it depends what you're using it for cuz if you just want to win basically every exchange ever, then what you want is Captain Falcon's armor because it's unstoppable. Like he's ridiculous. He can't be killed. Um, if you want to be cool and versatile, Iron Man. And if you just want to look cool, Boba Fett. >> I really like Django. >> Django is good. Mind you, same helmet. >> Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so what? So, they're asking they asked that question, then they said, "So, what is your choice? And why is it indomitous pattern terminator armor?" which >> you're going to laugh cuz I thought I thought it was something and then it turned out to be this. >> Yeah, this is apparently that. >> Oh, okay. So, it's Warhammer. >> It looks like every other one we've seen of the last three weeks. Why? Yeah, >> I think I might give this one some credit of it feels like it's a little bit different like the because the other ones I always picture greens and um more skulls and usually >> but that's that's all the different it's color scheme and number of skulls. Everything [laughter] else is kind of the same. >> They're in a culture of skulls. It's like saying, "Oh, all the Predators look the same." Which, you know, you could say that if you want to. All the Iron Man armors look the same. They don't. There's differences. Also, when is Platoon going to get his talky pixel PFP so we can fit in with the other boys? Um, that's that's your uh when did Fringy get it? That's your two-year or threeyear or something reward question mark. I'm making that up on the fly. >> You are making that up cuz Yeah, I got that much later than that. >> Yeah. Well, just cuz you got it later doesn't mean that's not why you got it. >> Ah. >> Logic there. Yeah, >> the platoon's soon to get it probably. When did you when did you become a host again? >> It was Captain America 4. So that would be midway through 20 Well, no. When did that was that summer 2025? 4. When was that out? >> I don't know. I don't think anyone remembers. >> No, >> I don't think anyone even knows. Lost knowledge. >> I think it was midway through last year. Maybe it's >> Oh, no. I typed Brave New World release date. I shouldn't have done that. >> There we go. February 14th, 2015. >> 2015. >> Sorry. 2025. [laughter] >> Has it been that long already? >> Uh, so yeah, you know, you're nearly there and you'll get yourself a wonderful little talkie PFP. It'll be wonderful. Okay, I'll figure out how to do that. >> Uh 1k subs for Golem. I'm serious about playing it. >> All right, go for it. Just be careful. They cut out an important part of the book in which they nuke Antarctica to release more greenhouse gases that keep the Earth warm to give them more time. Oh, yeah. I remember a bunch of people wanted to see that scene, and I I want to say they either filmed it and it didn't make it in or that they were considering filming it and they didn't have the budget. I think that was the reality he talked about. Uh there's a good interview with Tony Gilroy on the Reason interview with Nick uh Gillespie podcast. It will definitely explain why Andor was great. Basically, you have to write characters. That's a crazy idea. It'll never catch on. Carl, I am all the government crosses lightsabers. That could be in reference to so many things. I found it annoying how the movie reduced one of the most interesting plots in the book, the fact that humans are actually more advanced than Aridians at physics, to a throwaway line during a montage. I can see that how it would how that would annoy. I can understand that. >> But I mean, it it does seem like from what I've heard about the book that like it's it's it's a bigger story than could fit probably into a >> into the runtime of a feature film. That's what it seems like to me. >> It's still a chunky film. >> It is. Yeah. It's over two hours. Uh, how the hell does Rocky understand Grace in the first place? How does the vibrations that Grace makes speaking translate to rock for him? Love the scene and understand skimming Rocky's side, but still. Um, how does the vibrations of grace make speaking translate to rock for him? Are you saying like how does the computer translate it or >> because there's a lot of skips in time but the intuition is that >> you know object describe object with sound sound gets plugged into computer as name of object and then it keeps feeding information to the computer over and over and over and over and over until it can devise something of a translation which is about as good as you're going to get for a film that's not entirely about the translation. Again, like I respect the effort. Um, but it was something that I was super interested in. Would have liked to see more, but understand that the film has to keep moving. The Martian or Project Hail Mary, which is better? I mean, I'd have to rewatch The Martian, but I would assume it's Hail Mary. >> Yep. >> Hello, my massives. Love to everybody. Off topic, but I made Tonold's raspberry balsamic ice cream from his cooking videos. It's one of the best desserts I've ever had, and everyone who's tried it loves it. Shame he didn't keep a series. Yeah. Um I think he's just outright stopped, which is a shame, but man, like what can you even say about that? that we watched him go from, and I don't mean this too insultingly at this point, but he went from doing slop constantly to grabbing trends to then at one point trying to make like actual videos that were really good and then just stopped cuz uh I don't think they just they just didn't do well enough. Though, one of the last videos he did was called Anthem 4 years later and it's got one and a half million views. So, um, you know, where is cooking videos? I forget if that was on a different channel. But, uh, yeah. Oh, there it is. What would Kattos order at a restaurant? Had a few of those kinds of videos. They were fun. Uh, to quote the Bible, "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends." That's the thing about Project Hail Mary. It's a It's a big old friend movie. This I like friend movies. Friend movies are good. Racist shirts were fantastic. I had potential. Yeah, there's some fun ones in there. Might be a reach, but stating Earth before ID Erid on the last message might may imply how much Rocky also values his friend's world. Um, yeah, that's that's a that's a fair inference to some extent. I was just curious to have labeled Earth before Arid. But hey, Rocky's a he's a polite guy, you know. >> Sure is. >> I didn't understand the alien tech to be amazingly more advanced. It is different based on their physiology. Both have limitations. Combined, each solve a problem. Love EAB. Glad to support. Oh, thank you. And >> I mean, his ship is pretty crazy. like it's it's a really cool uh ship that seems to be uh more uh I guess in a certain sense like malleable than our human technology is like in terms of his ability to create like a functioning airlock and stuff like that. That seems to be kind of almost the gist of the uh of their technology. The impression I got was that if let's say to reduce technology down, there are five trees to build uh and humans have built one or two really well and the rest not at all. Rockies have built the other three really well and pieces of the other two. That's that seems kind of where where the comparison lies. Like we're doing [ __ ] they can't do or don't understand, but it seems that broadly they're probably ahead of us. >> Mhm. It's just a different tact, different understanding, which is fun and cool. Remembering infinite tisms took forever to convince Soy Boy to join them. He used his baby as an excuse. Listen, you're you're asking me to remember something from how long ago was that? >> I don't remember anything. That was years ago. >> Seven years at this point, I think something crazy. >> Was it actually that long ago? >> Infinity uh what was it actually called? Infinity Wars. >> [laughter] >> No, it was Crisis on Infinite Earths. >> That's it. >> God, that was so bad. And then you find out just like Yeah, it's cuz it was made in like a month cumulatively. All the uh all the Wow. And I mean also just that those shows are terrible. Like all of them. Every single one. I believe they're all terrible. And I believe that even the seasons that people say are good of Arrow or not. Like I just look I just need that to be known. They're probably not good. Six and a half years ago. Oh, no. Wait, >> that's when it ended, but it started at the end of 2019. So, >> really? Yeah. Oh, cuz they decided they wanted to do it the same year as Endgame. >> Part one was Supergirl. >> Part two was Batoman, part three was The Flash, part four was Arrow, part five was DC's Legends of Tomorrow. >> God. And do you remember cuz Green Arrow shot a laser out of his mouth. Do you remember when they were having a big fight in a quarry with a bunch of like floopy aliens that were flying around >> just I mean oh and then um oh god it's just everything about it was so horrible. It's um it's and dude that was so bad. Like what a what a what a crazy thing that like a whole bunch of these dog [ __ ] like DC TV shows were sort of allowed to persist for so long without anybody going we should probably like maybe invest resources into making like real television shows based on our uh on our franchises. >> Yeah. Uh, wish they made it more clear by saying saving Rocky. Grace knew he would die of starvation. He only has just enough food to get to Arid. Rocky's food is toxic and you'll die painfully. He does it to save Rocky and Arid. Oh, I guess that's a fair actual aspect because uh when I watch that movie, I take it as he knows he's never going to go back to Earth, but he'll end up on Erid rather than he believes he will die on Erid, which is of starvation, too, which is pretty rough. I maybe I don't know. I was about to say maybe the film didn't want to go there. They wanted to go more to a we're you know I'm going back for my friend and I'll we'll we'll do our thing together with the the end of the movie being like hey maybe make it back to Earth as opposed to I will starve with my friend in order to save him sort of thing. I don't know but uh an interesting thought. [ __ ] it we ball. Grace pulling off this mission pretty much. Yeah. He's he's very metal commander coded. Hail Mary. Yes. But what about the hailing Pippen? Aha, I get it. Hope this film gets a director's cut. Anyway, the Ben 10 Alien of the Day. Oh, I guess this will be something we can check out a bit later. Ben 10 alien of the day. Is that a new one that we're doing? >> I might have to do something about this. We've we've got way too many random things of the day and it's just clogging to an extent and there's lots of like searching and posting that ends up happening. That's uh I got to I don't know when to put a draw a line, but you guys uh we got between Warhammer, Extinct Animals, Lego, Pokemon, um and the rest. Adding Ben 10 as well. We're getting some trouble here. Amaze. Amaze. Amaze. Eap is covering Project Hail Mary. I adored the book and enjoyed the movie. Can't wait to hear y'all discuss it. Well, we sure did. Imagine if Avatar was this good. Imagine [snorts] >> they had three tries and they still haven't pulled it off. >> Maybe the fourth one. >> Yeah, the fourth will do it. I was expecting Matt Jabo to be on this stream. Why? >> I mean, you know, one can hope, I suppose. >> Oh, what? Cuz he collects boulders. >> I see the connection, but he's >> Yeah, >> he's he's doing earth boulders, you know. >> That's crazy. What a what a loser. What? [laughter] >> I've always said I prefer that he actually was that's just so much funnier. Like he was he's a thing he does with his son or whatever. They collect boulders. What even the [ __ ] >> I don't know. Just the fact that I exclusively associate boulders with large rocks, not small ones. That's like pebbles. But no, I've been collecting boulders. [laughter] >> It's such a bizarre activity to collect boulders. I don't know what the [ __ ] you why would anyone would say that. >> So just sad I went for a walk or something. >> Yeah. Any other excuse? Uh I need those Blu-ray deleted scenes. Well, I assume it's out by now, right? Uh Hail Mary. >> Uh I mean, yeah, it is. It's even out on uh on Prime. >> Why does Sheep Detectives look like it'll be better than Knives Out? Um or better than any of the Knives Out. I can I would go as far as guaranteeing it is. I haven't seen it, but I've seen everyone praising it. >> It would be hard not to be. >> Mhm. >> The Knives Out films are truly horrendous. >> Uh, EAB 24/7 when I don't know if this is just a meme or if you're asking, would we ever set up a channel where it plays EFAB episodes in loop forever constantly and uh cuz some people do that, right, with with sort of shows like ours. I don't know. I'm not against it. >> Does it? >> That's 247 FMT one, I think. >> Yeah, there's on Nerdic Live. He's got >> I don't really see the points because of the fact that like it's all on demand anyway, right? Like because of YouTube videos. >> Well, I guess the the counter is just that nobody loses anything, so why not? Um but I I don't I don't I'm I am in agreement with you. I don't see enough why. Uh even if there's no no why not. Mind you, it's kind of like um network TV in a sense where streaming shows you have to go and you have to make a conscious deliberate choice, right? I'm going to go decide what I'm going to watch. I'm going to put that specific one on, then that ends and have to do another conscious decision where what some people miss and even streaming services are reintroducing channels that do that for you. So Disney I think is introducing one, Netflix is thinking about introducing one where it acts basically the same as cable TV does. there is a playlist of content. It rolls automatically and then you like you have the additional it's part of the unexpected fun of it maybe like you can just tune in at any random point and it'll be like oh that thing I remember that and I would never have thought necessarily to rewatch it. Um maybe that's the thinking but I don't know how I don't know how many viewers they get or how many people want that sort of thing but the big streaming service seems to think it's useful. >> It shall be considered. Why didn't they just have Captain Marvel reignite the sun? Are they stupid? I don't know, man. Stupid, I think, is the only explanation. >> No, she was busy. Remember, that's why she can't help. She's >> There are lots of other planets that need her to be committing genocides and then fixing them and claiming all of the credit. >> I do wish that the trailer for Project Hail Mary didn't spoil so much for people who didn't read the book. What's kind of funny about that for me is um I saw the trailer and I remember at first thinking it was just a guy who's lost in space alone and he's not even like um particularly well prepared for it cuz he's there for other reasons. And then I remember I don't know if it's trailer 2 or whatever when it happens but revealing he meets like a crazy crazy alien and and I remember thinking like oh that would have been a fun surprise actually. And then when I saying that to people who are familiar with the book they were like that's not even >> like close to getting into how much story there's left after that. It's like, oh yeah, but I don't know. Would have been a fun surprise. I don't know. >> Uh, I think most hard sci-fi assumes other life wouldn't have right or wrongs near ours. It is neat to think social norms of intelligent life could converge. A lot of sci-fi is hopeful. A lot of it isn't. >> Yeah. >> Uh, it depends on the genre that you're talking about cuz Yeah. And I mean cuz cyberpunk for instance is like exclusively basically dystopias. >> I mean you can be hopeful and dystopian in the sense of >> No, you you [clears throat] can for sure. Um that's pos that's for sure possible. No, I get what you mean cuz it's you know cuz it's uh you don't necessarily want to look to the future with like abject pessimism >> like well we're [ __ ] Oh, >> but I mean you could probably say like most stories are like that cuz most stories end with the good guys winning. >> Yeah. >> So I almost wonder if there needs to be a way that it could be break broken down a bit further than just that because Yeah. most stories are optimistic in that sense. They think that things will work out compared to I guess maybe in past societies where tragedies were considerably more common. >> Uh you Mark and Metal should play R2 remake on fixed camera mod. So, I don't know if I'm radical on this, but I don't want RE2 remake to have a fixed camera mod, much like I don't want the original RE2 to be modded such that I can move around in 3D. >> Yeah, that game is built for that perspective. >> It's just like the original was built for its own. >> Yeah, it doesn't solve anything for either of them to do that. It's uh when you design a game from the ground up with these things like you are appreciating the person who put that camera there for that reason and but everything else it it feels almost like you're doing a bit of butchering. It's probably fun or whatever and to sort of mess around, but I almost don't even want to compared to doing other things. Like eh I'd rather play like a goofy item mixing mode or whatever. >> Um but Marge, I thought you love Mario. Yes, I do. >> Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. You [ __ ] [laughter] [ __ ] >> Shut up. Shut up. >> Shut up. >> [ __ ] die. >> Hey, I liked it just fine. Love you guys. What we like to do. Oh, wait a minute. We might be into the next one. The Nintendo movies will be like the Avatar movies. They'll make money. People with will praise the visuals. And in a month, they'll be forgotten. Sad. You get the added thing with the Nintendo movies where some people will say this one is for the fans, >> right? >> That's why it >> I'm a fan and I hated it. >> That's what I keep saying. >> Well, you two aren't the right kind of fans. Okay. >> To actually respect the creative integrity of Super Mario Galaxy. Oh well. No, it is insane because that sentiment is around a lot like for the fans when it seems to me that the same metrics for fans of comics made in movies or fans of games made into movies and TV shows and stuff that seems a lot more clear with those. But Mario, like if we could just be honest, a lot of people don't care about Mario as like um >> no uh they don't think that it has any like integrity essentially as a story. like they don't they they think it's like yeah it's goofy Italian plumber man who like fights the turtle >> and as as like again it's that >> I don't even it's it's almost like annoying to have to go it's like dude the fact that like it is so enduring and so tethered to many quality games you can like say whatever you want about it but clearly there is something that's working from a storytelling standpoint in Mario games clearly um I don't know that anything can be as successful uccessful as Mario is with characters that people recognize. If that wasn't the case, even in so far as um the the oldest games of how well they're able to communicate in an almost like universal storytelling language, who the good guy is, who the bad guy is, and what your objective is. And then of course, in the case of Mario G, I think I think that's the big one. It's Mario Galaxy that actually has like kind of loftier uh storytelling ambitions than the typical Mario game. has a theme, like an actual theme and kind of like a worthwhile and and mature theme given given that it is meant to be for all ages and potentially, you know, someone's first game when they're like 3 or 4 years old and it's trying to say something. And meanwhile, the movie that's based on it doesn't want to say anything. To say anything would be to, I don't know, alienate someone maybe. So, never mind that. We'll just have references. References to games that aren't even Super Mario Galaxy for the most part because I mean there's that as well. Super Mario Galaxy is nearly 20 years old at this point. A lot of people, even adults, you know, they haven't even they have no familiarity with it. They haven't played it. >> Uh, y'all say Yoshi like you're in Fargo. I feel like >> I say it like Yoshi says it. >> Yeah. Well, we said that on the stream, but also that um I feel like the Fargo people would say Yoshi or they would be the the Fargo accent. I forget whether even Midwestern accent, right? Which is kind of wacky. >> It is really wacky. >> The Minnesota sort of. Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, that's cuz it's like the Scandinavian influence, right? >> Yeah. >> I'm not mistaken. German as well >> in that part of America. >> Very unique. Very fun. This film had a better end with Bowser in a hot tub. Oh, it better end that way. No, we'll get that in the Super Mario Sunshine movie. It'll definitely >> I don't think they'll do the Sunshine movie. They'll definitely The people who >> I don't think so. Um I think >> Are you serious? Like do you think they definitely will do Sunshine or >> Not even close? >> Cuz my thinking is that they would say, "Well, Sunshine isn't among the more popular. Sunshine was one of the lower selling like 3D Mario games, so it'd be better to do Odyssey. >> Just memeing. The fact that they skipped it, they'll not do it now. >> Yeah. >> Which was silly. >> Uh they probably should. >> Well, yeah, cuz that's funny because that has it that you know there's a story built up with flood >> as well as a I mean very poignant in the early 2000s environmental message, you know, that uh that I appreciate. They would want a discussion to be had and they maybe at one point said sunshine and be like yeah you could and you'd make money wouldn't make as much money as doing galaxy and galaxy's better for launching other properties so I don't think we need to do sunshine we can move on >> damn it cuz we'll have Galaxy 2 uh that they could probably do after this or Odyssey or both and then by then we'll have Zelda we'll have [ __ ] a bunch of other [ __ ] and be like yeah we don't need to do Mario Sunshine's a waste of time we don't need to do that. Yeah, which again it is pretty annoying because it's you know Mario Sunshine's got its own well and yeah and they've already done Bowser Jr. as like kind of the M and that's like yeah you you've you've remixed it cuz he is in Galaxy but I mean he ain't you know he's just like sort of a boss that shows up every now and then but uh as opposed to being the main bad guy. So you know they they probably said like yeah we've satisfied it. There he is with his like uh you know his his magical brush so it's all good. We did it. >> But did M actually focus? >> Uh, not. I mean, I don't know. >> It was barely in the movie. So, no. >> Yeah. No arc. Peach is so thoroughly boring in those movies. So profoundly dull. They ruined her. Which is it's funny. It's like, where does Peach rank for you in terms of your favorite Mario characters? like, well, she's not even in the top 10. Um, however, like she at least had a distinct personality, and they were like, nah, I don't need that. We need to make you boring. >> Yeah, >> we need to make you boring fight lady, just like everybody else is the fight person, except you're the best one. >> They introduce Daisy at the postredit scenes. It's like, oh, she's going to be the tough go-getter fighting lady. So, you mean just like the last one? >> Yeah. >> Crazy that they're like, "Oh, yeah, Rose Luna's in this." It's like what's going to be Oh, she's the damsel. It's like, wow. [laughter] Okay. Interesting interesting choice there that the that the character who has like access to cosmic power, it's like no, Peach does too cuz they're sisters. It's like, oh no, they they would No, they're they're not though. >> But okay, I guess they are now. >> I came out of the latest Mario film with three things. One, this happens and then this happens and then this happens. Two, I would rather just replay Mario the Galaxy. And three, I could have rewatched Project Hail Mary. >> Sure. >> All valid. Uh, let's be honest, this movie does everything the fans want, and that's a bad thing. But hey, that's Nintendo fans for you. They only care about good games and not the horrible company, Give Me Star Fox show. >> What fans want is a little complicated cuz >> Yeah, >> you could have given I hate it. >> Yep. >> Well, we could have could have gotten an amazing Galaxy movie. I mean, the thing is the fans are probably set to be chill with it as long as you hit a few basic boxes. And I'm not even saying that. >> Have them have cloud power up from Galaxy to get that in there and it's like, "Oh, I remember that. >> I have good memories." >> You can run on that for a little while. >> Good memories for this >> with something this potent. It won't last forever. Um, >> no. I mean, it's already got diminishing returns. This movie made less than the first one. >> Well, that's and that's what sucks because this is your so many cases of this. This is your chance. everyone's watching to make a story that everyone can get invested in because everyone's looking. It's It reminds me of phase four of the MCU. Everyone's looking. >> Do do good stories now. >> And but then they're like, "No, we'll just we'll just do the illumination thing where we don't we don't do and I mean it runs out. I mean, case in point, I've heard people say this and I don't buy it because of course I don't, but uh that that new Minions movie was actually like one of the more worthwhile things that Illumination has made. didn't do as well as the other uh Minions movies do because everything everything if it's not actually innovating or or or sort of pursuing like a high benchmark everything eventually sort of fizzles out. >> There's only so long that you can last on superficial qualities. I mean, it's funny, right? Mario is a good template for as much as people might say it, they would be wrong to say it. Mario doesn't like rest on its laurels as a series. It just doesn't like this is not something that can be said for for that series. Certain sub series you could say that about maybe um but like the mainline Mario games I mean it's even reflected in the newest 2D Mario game like Super Mario Brothers Wonders. It's it's Mario games have a core formula for sure, but there is absolutely a desire to try new things and to to try and innovate in specific ways. Um and I think that explains the long-term health of the series. It's It's both familiar but often trying to provide a new experience as well compared to, you know, what you've got in Mario Galaxy, which is just like, yeah, this is this is like nothing. It's like it's l you [laughter] know, like it's that's just kind of what it is. Fair enough. Super Mario doesn't have story equals Resident Evil was always bad. Jesus people get better arguments. Yeah, I know. It's the usual. Um, no. It is it is annoying how much this comes because a lot of the Spider-Man stuff was like it's a [ __ ] superhero movie, dude. Like, >> yeah, >> it should be better. What the [ __ ] >> Yep. >> And it's always uh you just run the consequences of the logic every time, which is, oh man, you'd be very critical of a superhero movie if it was well written, huh? Be like, wow, this was stupid of them. Why would they write this? Well, idiots. A lot of Nintendo fans are the Disney adults of the gaming community, so I'm not surprised it has defenders. >> That's probably fair. Um, yes, >> lot of Nintendo. Uh, sorry. This movie makes you want Lord of Ring on PS4. Yes, to some extent. >> The it's for kids, so of course it's bad argument should be illegal. And yet it's always rolled out for this stuff. And the only people rolling that argument out are themselves adults often who don't have kids. >> What if what if their kid says it's [ __ ] and wants it to be better? What do they do then? Like it's for you, idiot. Like what are you doing? [laughter] >> And they never stop there anyway. It's always it's never just it's for kids. It's always it's for kids. And anyway, I thought it was amazing. >> Yeah. >> So you're using kids as like your meat shield. You should stop doing that. the amount of Scooby-Dooes sort of revealing the villain underneath the argument of of like they they just like the [ __ ] movie. That's it. They just like >> And it really upsets them to know that there's anybody in the world who has expressed that they don't like it. >> Like what's that? It's meant for kids. It was you liked the movie all along. I knew it. >> Uh why does rags have six fingers? >> That right. What they said? Why does rags have six fingers while drinking coffee? I don't know why they said that, but all right. All right. Um, dogs only have like three fingers, right? Or four. I guess they're not fingers technically. What I was I was just thinking about how a lot of people say like it's not meant to be high art. And you always wonder, it's like how much high art do you consume person who [clears throat] says this? It's like, oh, nothing. I don't even read. It's like I just [laughter] find it amusing when that argument is wheeled out. It's like you say that as if you do consume high art. As if you like make a habit of um make a habit of going to like the theater or going to um like m uh not galleries. I don't know why I was going to say a museum but also a museum as well but like an art gallery or something. Well, they always seem to throw the same examples out because I remember having when this film came out having these arguments with people on Twitter like it's like you expect every film to be the Godfather. I like or it's like I expect it to be at least as good as the game from which it takes its name, you know? It's not I'm not expecting [ __ ] Michelangelo here. I'm expecting it to at least match the quality of the thing it's supposed to be adapting. >> But hey, is there anything wrong with encouraging people to try and maybe aspire to make like stuff that's worthwhile instead of crap? I just I I get frustrated with Yeah. No, I I just want to make [ __ ] It's like [laughter] I don't really respect that, but okay. >> It's also cringey because it's just like there's so many things I watch or or celebrate when if someone take Obsession for example. If someone said, "Is obsession high art?" I'd be like, I I don't know. It's really >> The problem is like I mean I mean high art is any movie high art? Some some people would say no. There would be people out and you'd think that they were being ridiculous. Um, but I mean in turn I think you're, you know, you're being ridiculous for not, >> you know, you go, you know, it's like, yeah, like I, it's almost like you need to remind people there are people out there who think movies are like, like bad for like people essentially as a way of getting stories. You will always find someone more pretentious on that in that regard. >> How dare you? Clowns have to juggle. Unicycles are hard to ride. How dare you compare Mario Galaxy to the talents of a clown? That's true. There is more artistry to being a clown than is present. Well, the animation's Yeah, [laughter] >> sure. >> The moment I saw them stuffing Yoshi, Roselina, and Bowser Jr. here, characters that could carry their own solo movies, I lost all hope for being good. I mean, that was inevitable. They're spamming for uh the sake of launching. The best three movies can do is drive people to the games for a better experience. But that's me trying to be optimistic about a clown singularity. I I think that there's fairness to that. I found that with a lot of different things. Um especially like remakes or legacy sequels. The one one thing that's kind of nice is that it encourages people to go like, "Hey, what was the old thing again?" >> True. But the thing is is that it might be a very disappointing number in truth that uh that we'll sort of pursue the original or you know, whatever. It's >> not worth it. Um, it's never worth it. [clears throat] Like, it's not >> worth a >> uh the new Leo and Stitch remake thing that some people went back and watched the original. It's like, no, cuz the damage is significant. Everyone will be watching that at default now, the new live action one, which is [ __ ] sad. And I don't even mean that in a sense of they're choosing it. I just mean that they'll throw it on. It'll be on Disney Plus or whatever. And like, there you go. Throw that on. It's like, no. Especially when the original's right there. >> Yeah. Exactly. But you do really lament. It's like, yeah, how many, you know, how many people say, well, I've seen it. I've experienced it, so I'm not good. You know, that's it. I'm good. It's like, oh, >> that's that's kind of tragic. >> I'm sorry, but I'm done with nostalgia and superficial visual effects being the only good qualities of a movie. Well, Hollywood ain't done with that, I'm afraid. Plenty more to come. Wish Nintendo lost money for this film, but at least they lost their Pokemon patent. Hate video game patents. video. Free will probably mention Shadow Mortal. Although I wouldn't hate you Dumbos for playing DDLC, the Nemesis system, right? Or something. >> The Nemesis system, which Yeah. But I mean, yeah, cuz it's like, yeah, that's that's our system. >> Okay, great. >> Thanks, guys. >> You know, yeah. No, it's I mean, >> is there no way to contextualize it as something else like to build the similar? Well, I mean I mean bar I don't really know much about like >> there's a lot of patents. There are a lot of patents. Lots of things get patented >> and like it doesn't necessarily Yeah. prevent people from doing things that are similar. >> You you can you can recreate the basic effects of a nemesis system. I can't [clears throat] remember exactly what the patent for the nemesis system is. I think it's a system as a whole, but you can it it's just way more timely and and expensive than it needs to be. that you are allowed to effectively create an analogist system that does analogous things. That's that's absolutely fine. It's just you have to spend loads more money and time doing it. Not that I'm speaking from any kind of personal experience whatsoever. Um but but but it depends what the type of patent system is cuz Nintendo ones for Pokémon were absurd. It's like we're going to Payton the very idea of capturing any kind of monster in any kind of device and then using that thing to [laughter] battle anything else in any way whatsoever. So So that's [ __ ] that's like when Apple tried to patent a rectangle with a circle at the bottom because that's what the iPhone looks like. Obviously that's horshit and it got thrown out. Um, my worry was set in when Miiamoto said in an interview before film released that uh the film release was challenging the fans to see how many characters are in the film. I'm not sure. I think that's not said the way that it wants to be. Um, you mean like the there's a quote saying it's going to be a challenge for the fans because of how many characters are in it. It's like keep an eye out for all of the references, all of the all of the Easter eggs and everything. I spotted the pianas. That's all that mattered to me. I mean, it was a good film. >> Yeah. Yeah, they were there. >> Rags TFA part 6 when I'm sure he's working on it. Beach and Roselina being confirmed as sisters has all safe horny artists in an uproar. That's probably the one straight up positive impact from this. We We want them to be to be hobbed. That's the way forward. Mario Movie 1 attempts to string his colors and nostalgia with something of a plot. Mario Galaxy movie. Dude, Star Fox. >> Yeah, they gave it's not only does it not want to be highard and not only can it not match the story of the game it's adapting, it can't even be as good as the last Mario movie, >> which was >> anything surprising like >> No, it had a plot, I guess, which is too much to ask now. >> Yeah. Uh, this movie reveals the secret of Mario's jump, which is that it makes me want to do Mario's jump off a very tall cliff so that I can avoid it. Damn. >> Haven't seen the film, but it sucks that it sounds like it was made so cynically compared to the first one. Guess Sonic has the edge in the movie department. Yeah, I guess >> I I I wouldn't go that hard for like I maybe I guess. Um, I feel like it does I feel like those movies got away with with a lot Sonic movies, you know? >> It feels like they're more meme and people are in sync with the memeiness or something, especially the Jim Carrey aspects. >> There's that is the case, but like people there were people who said that they were like actually like genuinely blown away by like the stuff with Shadow. And it's like, dude, this is like it's funny. We were just talking about the pretentiousness, but I do definitely have a thing of like you got to like consume more stories. You need to like open your horizons to the wide breadth of potential stories and characters and themes and uh progression that is out there. Like if that [ __ ] blew your mind. >> Oh yeah. >> Love you though. [laughter] >> Love you though. It's a meio. So, it's safe to say that Iron Lung is the closest that we have so far to being called the best video game adapted film. If not, which film? Well, we did talk about that earlier. >> Yes, we did. So, the answer is yeah, maybe which uh >> particularly with the amount of video game adaptations that have come out over the last few years and uh inbound is um quite horrible in terms as a ratio. >> Cut scenes. Quick, invite Doomer on for the CFAB. Oh no. Oh no. I'll do that maybe in 30 years or something. What shorts do you find irritating? I particularly hate the ones that show animated shorts with some AI narration. Ones that were obviously created to tell stories with the cringe narration. Uh for me it's going to be the like triple quadruple pentuple edited video of a crushed up film that has an AI describe the chopped up events and then an AI voice doing it in some kind of like horrible way. It might be like if it was Lord of the Rings, it would be like this man was living alone in a happy place and it'll show Frodo and then it'll be like he had to take his journey in order to save his people or something and it lost like a minute and then it's over and it's just like the most disgusting. It just feels like how the [ __ ] did this get on my feet? Ew. >> [laughter] >> Uh, the sacrifice the Lumas make at the end of Super Mario Galaxy extremely meaningful, especially that your white Luma does it as well. It sucks that in the movie the Lumas are just goobers. They're just minions. >> Uh, yeah, pretty much. Yeah, which is not even a surprise. That is a formula that has made uh Illumination and Universal a considerable amount of money. >> Everything Shagro Miiamotus had said about this movie has been nothing short of accidentally insulting to it and Mario as a whole. It's embarrassing. >> Yeah, it's unfortunate that and I I suppose um what is depressing about that is that um whatever it means that Nintendo is involved in uh any of the adaptations which they are more so than like a lot of these studios or creators are or get to be. I mean he is like you know Nintendo is like a co-production company on these movies. is Miyamoto is um is like one of the producers for the film. Um and the same will apply for Zelda, I believe, and and probably will be the case for all of them that like whatever that it it doesn't actually protect them as much as you might think that it would is um is unfortunately the sad reality. And it's kind of twofold of you wonder what they might have been told by the Hollywood producers that needs to happen in order to make money and they're like, "Well, that's like your domain, so I guess we trust you on that." Versus maybe like some of the instincts they have uh are not quite as as good as you would you would hope or expect they would be given again when you're talking about someone like Miiamoto. It's like this is a immensely he is an immensely valuable creator like immensely. um is he's he's in a particularly unique class of uh of people who've contributed to like art and culture. Um so, you know, it's a bit bit sad in that regard. If uh if he's really very pleased with that movie, that's like disappointing. >> It's like and I think I made this point on FNT as well. There's also the slight worry of crosscontamination if like you don't want to be telling Nintendo that this is how easy it is to make money with Mario because if they're sitting there for they been well we we're going to release one of these every you know like 5 to 10 years cuz they really want it to be the next big thing. They want to make sure it's unique and different and it's the best it can possibly be and then along comes this movie. You can [ __ ] it out in 6 months and it makes a billion. It's like do you want Nintendo to take the lesson that you don't have to work hard to make money on this franchise? because ultimately they are a company and companies will take the shortest route to money available. So I'd be just a bit worried that they'd start lowering their own standards if this kind of thing carries on. >> I think that is a totally valid fear. The only hope would be that there is some sort of company culture that exists that sort of explains the decisions that they made throughout their history um that perseveres even in the face of >> you know whatever amount of money is to be made from these movies or the licensed like theme park stuff. But you know I mean it's it is worrying for sure. Now I'm worried uh if Miiamoto wants to make a Star Fox film, he'll probably go to Illumination to make it or want a barebone story to it. >> Uh yes, probably. It'll probably be Illumination. Uh maybe DreamWorks because of the partnership with Universal, but you know, I mean I mean is there any particular like major American animation studio that would make you like more like if it I mean not that it would ever happen, but if it was Pixar, would that be especially exciting to you right now? Um, >> dude, could you imagine they announce a Pikmin film and you're like, "Okay, fine, fine." And then they go, "Oddman's doing it." >> Oh, that would be Yeah. See, that that would be the thing if that was happening. That'd be like, "Ooh." So, it could actually be like really awesome. But that won't happen. >> No, it won't. But it would be like, "Oh, that's going to be their best film. It's not even close." >> Sure. But it would be their best film. It's like, but you're not even that into Pikmin. It's like, doesn't matter. >> Doesn't matter. [laughter] >> No. Fringy. Who would want to watch a galaxy hopping adventure? >> Nobody. >> No, that's Yeah, nobody would want to. >> I miss rag send scritches to the good doggo. Of course. A friend telling me these movies can't slow down due to there being four decades of Mario content and Miiamoto who needs to oversee it is getting old. That is what [laughter] does that even mean? >> There's four decades of Mario content and we need to squeeze them into a 90-minute film. If there's four decades and your second movie is Galaxy, it's like, how skipping are we going here? Holy [ __ ] >> Yeah, if you were a little bit more careful and patient, you can make this last for another 40 years. >> Yeah, this movie has five games in it. Barely any galaxy at all. The titles are straight up lie. Zero out of 10. Not enough Roselina. Well, >> yeah. >> Yeah. Um, Incredibles, the movie that made me love movies and superheroes. Can't wait for the day you cover it. I'll wait however long it takes. It'll get covered for sure. >> For sure. I mean, we got Incredibles 3 coming soon. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> It's a real shame because Brie Larson's strong passion for the source material showed big time in the press tours. Feeling pretty bad for it. To be honest, they totally used that. Like she probably told them and they were like, "All right, do it. >> Yeah, we we'll we'll use that." And um and yeah, I mean she's got the cred. She was talking about how much she liked this stuff before it was as popular or profitable to uh >> to do that. Um, and when you listen to her, it's it's pretty clear that she's quite passionate about it, which yeah, it's it's kind of unfortunate that whatever whatever passion there was. I mean, she only had like what, maybe like 15 lines of dialogue in the whole movie, like she's really not a part of it at all. I focused when I saw it. You I'm sure you did. >> I'll bet you anything of the fan film by a fox in space will be better than the one they Yeah. Nobody's >> uh Yeah. I mean, that's not even there's no point in even bringing that up. It's it's way better. Like a Fox in Space is super worthwhile. Um, just fun at its core. Um, but I mean, A Fox in Space is like one of the best like fan projects like ever really. It's uh very impressive. >> Yeah. Saying they're they're not going to beat that is like that's just a guarantee. >> I mean, the reality is it would kind of it would be it would be quite hard to like it's it's quite good a Fox in Space. Um it's uh it's like and and and it's it's very much a case of uh because I say like when there how do how would I want to put it? Uh there are certain projects I'm like pretty on board with pretty much any like animation project that anybody tries to do like on YouTube or independently in any capacity. Um that's really cool. Um, however, A Fox in Space on top of that does have like I it is a a really unique and cool um like uh essentially idea for a project. It's got like a very distinctive style that it's pursuing that's quite unique. Uh and on top of that, I'm just like broadly impressed with the quality of the writing in uh in in that series. It's um it's quite strong and and quite unique um given essentially I suppose what could be said to be more like the normal trends of uh not just um not just projects of that kind but also like western like adultoriented animation in general. Um even down to the fact that there's really like not a lot of swearing in it which is something that you would probably typically expect from uh from something like it. Um it's just really impressive. So yeah, it I mean this this film absolutely crumbles in the face of comparisons to something like that. And of course it's an example of much more tasteful Easter eggs and references to the games. Much more thoughtful and considered and subtle. >> Yeah. Um they also said like get him on and it's just like um listen if we had that kind of power. Okay. Just to grab him whenever we can, you know. Uh I bet you anything. Oh wait. Yeah. So, get them on. I I don't worry, Mubes. They'll do a Sunshine one in phase five when they need to get the fans back. Sure. Or it'll be a Disney Plus TV show. >> Yeah. Or Peacock, right? Cuz it's Universal. >> Yeah. >> Peacock original series. >> Everyone who's seen Minus One prefers it to the Mario Galaxy movie. Like, yeah, I would. If that's what you're saying, 100%. Uh, can we just get kid movies like Secret of Nim mature enough to appreciate as an adult? Well, yeah, 100%. Also, Mrs. Frisbee, lowkey best female character in animation. Mrs. Frisbee, who that ring a bell? >> I think between the three of us, we've seen a lot of animated films, and I do not know who you're talking about. I'm so sorry. Illumination needs to do a Star Fox movie or series that in 2D style they showed. They won't because 2D requires talent and effort. Star Fox movie like that with a good story, a felic dream. >> Um, 3D requires talent and effort. >> Incredibles is 3D, guys. >> Yeah, like 3D is the the my it's it's more so the frustration that I have with 3D is that it is the only viable. It's the only thing you're allowed to do uh in terms of feature films like in in in the West anyway. That's a frustration. not with the actual like again it's qu it can it can be quality also Mrs. Frisbee is from Secret of Nim, but I'm afraid I just I haven't seen that since I was a kid. So, I should probably rewatch it though. It does get referenced every once in a while. Puss and Boots, multiple track films, Sonic movies, and The Lego Movie exist with coherent plots. Oh, Lego Movie. Does that count as a It's more of a >> That's not a video game. That's a toy. >> It isn't, but it is. there's Lego games, but like the film isn't adapting the game, but that the game adaptations don't often adapt the games anyway for video game adaptations. So, if you know, like how strict or how broad are we being? But if if the Lego movie were ever in the race, it would win like uh >> cuz it's the first one. It's very very very good. >> Um, but here's some other children's media. Gargoyles and Lord of the Rings. We need standards for kids media. Well, I saw Lord of the Rings when I was a [ __ ] child, so and I adored it, you know, like it's uh I know that um The Hobbit is more child-friendly than Lord of the Rings and everything, but at the same time, as a child way preferred Lord of the Rings movies to the Hobbit ones, just saying. Oh, it's not anything to do with the the content or anything. I just the tragedy that was the I don't like thinking about the whole um the Lord of the Rings is the OT, the Hobbit is the prequels, and so Lord of the Rings is now in its sequel era. It sucks. It's like, no, we didn't spend long enough in the other eras. But yes, better standards for kids media. Troy as Yoshi in the morning. All right. I wonder how much should be blamed at Illumination itself Nintendo's involvement in terms of lack of story. Recent Nintendo especially seems adverse to giving any character development or depth even in Mario RPGs. Um, there's maybe something to be said for that, but I mean I I hold a lot of I mean Illumination are like reliably >> guys, the Grinch movie. Okay, >> that dude. >> Oh, I forgot about that. I mercifully forgot about that and then decided to remind me. Yeah, sure was. Uh, >> Illumination just uh they seem to give up when it comes to sequels. The Grinch wasn't a sequel. >> I think they give up when it comes to a lot of their movies because they don't they're very successful despite being pretty pretty hollow a lot of the time. >> Fortunately, they seem to know exactly how to be successful and [ __ ] at the same time. They cracked it. >> Mhm. Yep. >> Uh oh, yeah. Well, the follow-up super chat says, "Illumination seems to give up dot dot dot." That's it. So, >> there you go. Yeah. The saddest thing about this movie is that it killed Yoshi and replaced him with his evil twin brother, Yoshi. And it's it was done offscreen. My god. >> Yoshi got bested too easily. Would that be Roselina? I assume. >> Uh yeah, I mean got beaten pretty effortlessly. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Hello there. This is Gruff. I'm currently on EAP 209. Play Tree Pang 2. Okay. In the original games, Peach needed to be saved, but in this, she is a Mary Sue superpowered being that might even beat Bowser and Peg Mario. >> Well, she is the most powerful character in that universe now. >> Yeah, like canonically. >> And she does do all the saving. And she's also the best physical fighter, so she does meet and everybody loves her inexplicably. So, she does kind of meet all the the requirements. >> Yes. >> Oh, yeah. That's great news. Really adds to the to the whole thing. Uh, never forget Fringy put Mario Sunshine in his top 10 worst video game endings video. Sunshine was the TLJ of the Mario series. [laughter] >> It's a It's a wacky ending. >> I love it. >> It's It's [laughter] how dare you ruin our vacation. >> I just like the idea that it's the TLJ of Mario series. Like everyone's going over like [ __ ] sunshine. It destroyed everything. Uh, Fring, have you seen the Bowser versus Eggman death battle? Death Battle is a hit or miss channel, but that fight had great characterization for both teams. >> I've not I haven't watched many. >> I would thought Doesn't Eggman win that? >> Uh, why do you say that? >> Well, cuz I'm assuming they both get full access to everything. Eggman, I don't know. Bowser is going to need Bowser's got a lot of like tech that he has access to more than you might realize. >> Maybe we should run this in an an ultimate showdown video game character edition and we can find out definitively who wins. >> I think I think that one's not as I think I think it the instinct would be like well yeah it would be Eggman, right? Because of all the stuff he'd have access to. I was like, "Well, Bowser's got like he's got like an airship armada." >> I feel like his tech is just categorically lower than Eggman's highest tech, though. >> Well, Mario Galaxy Bowser has the thing that's going to destroy the galaxy, so he can rebuild it. That's pretty impressive. Can Eggman destroy galaxies? >> Be fair, I have not played enough Sonic to be able to tell you that. He probably has at some point. >> He He can build I mean, he built like a thing that split like Earth apart. I remember that was in Sonic Unleashed. >> Yeah. >> What? >> He did that in Sonic Unleashed. >> Yeah. He had like some big gun and I remember it was like um he got something from like the Chaos Emeralds or something like Chaos Energy or whatever it's called and he harnessed it and then it like split the earth open and there was like some sort of Lovecraftian monster inside of it. >> Okay. >> So, the point being both of this is what I'm saying. Both of them have access to pretty crazy uh power through technology. >> Who would you put the winner as uh if you had to guess straight away? >> Uh the thing is is that well I was about to say Bowser has access to magic, but like Sonic probably has magic in it too or something somewhere. >> Count as magic. >> Uh well, I don't know. That's probably science, isn't it? That feels like it's more science fiction than magic. But there probably is magic in like Sonic as well. I think if Sonic is more sci-fi though, I guess inherently, but um but that might be a mistake. I don't know. I actually have no idea if it was like I mean obviously in a fist fight Bowser wins. Bowser is innately more powerful. >> Oh yeah, I would assume that. Yeah. Um Shrek is Dre. Damn. Why be Lord of Bones when you can be Lord of Ring? Oh, uh, I literally just got the Yoshi egg advert. Yeah, that was the thing I was saying when I went to see Mario movie that [ __ ] hell the ads like just like six different Mario related ads right before it. Like, man, I'd like to know. Well, I guess how I was about to say how much they pay for that, but there's probably some kind of way to loop it, right? like cuz it's your thing to add ads of your stuff to your thing and spam it. Merchandis thing is crazy though. I don't I haven't really seen any uh Yoshi eggs in the wild that much. I don't know how what I don't know if they kicked off or not. People like them. Uh Fringy is the top rapper Eminem couldn't diss. >> I don't know about that. >> Maybe Optimus Prime and Little Foot's mom dying stand out to me. Use my IKEA money to get new AA batteries for platoon smoke alarm. Oh, did you get that fixed? >> Yeah, but it's not a battery one. It's a means one, so it required an electrician, but it is now fixed. >> Yay. I got dragged to this by friends who wanted to hang out. I don't like Mario games generally. The movie annoys me by virtue of having a plastic soul. Does it have a plastic soul or just no soul? >> Questions for the ages. I feel Nintendo creatively died with Iwata. H >> uh I don't >> not very fair I don't think might just be too intuitive to pick that you know as like an event that would do that. >> Well I mean you're saying they haven't done anything creative in the last 10 years with that >> which isn't very fair. >> I just don't agree with >> Listen, okay, there's been mistakes. There's been Metroid Prime 4 shaped mistakes. >> That's true. Buddha was in the casino because everyone at the table was from Mario 2 on the Ness just like the stars Peach defeats. Uh might be showing my age a bit. No, that's fair. >> And again, that's that defeats the whole it's for kids. It's like dude, do you think any kids are going to like that? >> No. >> I mean, at this point, like a lot of the kids are watching the movie were born after Odyssey came out. >> Uh do you think Scarlett Johansson really regrets that lawsuit now? She could have been in Doomsday. Not only do I think she doesn't regret it, I don't think she'd even necessarily be in Doomsday if she hadn't had the [ __ ] lawsuit. The thing for her is that she makes movies uh unlike a lot of her co-stars. >> She's in a bunch like she's in Wes Anderson movies recently. The >> uh she's also got a franchise. She's got Jurassic Park now. So, >> you know, they're going for >> it's a side of the complex human being where you can say she makes movies and also Jurassic [laughter] World. It's so true though. Uh, still don't forgive them for refusing to credit Grant Kirk Hope, the composer and lyricist and Chris Sutherland, voice vocalist for the DK rap in the first movie. Yeah, that was that's some [ __ ] That is some >> my memory was when Mr. Silver died in Treasure Planet. This is when we were discussing like different sort of impactful [ __ ] from kids movies. Does Galaxy hurt the first Mario movie? Question. Um, >> probably. >> Probably. Yeah. I don't think we did. We take that angle at any time cuz I it was weird. Just cuz I'd titled the stream something like it's an anthology or or I think I called it Super Mario Galaxy Doomsday and then an anthology of colors and shapes, I think, is what I called it. >> Point being, it just feels like a disconnected random set of scenes that are just like, here we go, here we go, here go. So, it's like, does it [ __ ] up the first one? was like, "It's not even [ __ ] a sequel to the first one in a way." But yes, it's infinitely stupid that Bowser and his Coopers take forever to understand or don't understand that they are somehow invincible and flesh is gone. >> Well, I don't know what to say to that. >> Yeah, he falls into the lava and then they pretend he's dead and then he just climbs out and says, "Huh, I am Jar Black." >> He does say that. My favorite Mhler joke that no one noticed. Drinker. Oh no, Cthulu is here. Mhler, my lord. Yeah, it's a it's a double meaning. Uh, the one thing I find funny with this movie is that it pisses off the shippers. They're angry that Peach and Roselina are sisters now and are having a meltdown. While certain artists are happy to try to imagine the opening of the Siege of Minister without its music, you can't. It's that integral to the scene. Music is just as important as the actual visuals of a scene. Oh, you are you saying that's like like the damage that's been done to these people? Because I I find it funny, honestly. I think most people do. [laughter] >> Uh, Gollum would win an argument with this film's fans. Yeah, he's he's pretty good at it. Yeah, there's a whole game about that. >> You cannot brace for the grace. No grace. Mario says those things because he's an Italian caricature. Grace's screen is almost as bloated as Windows 11. Good old Randolph. Grace Randolph is the very thing I saw in Pokémon Go when it first came out. Hijacking niche thing for the trend and I was called a gatekeeper. We need more gatekeeping. I think at this point what would anti-duma be called? Bloomer. Yeah, maybe. Kind of works sort of. Brawl subspace campaign stream when I think that's more of a fringy thing than than all of us. >> And that's not even something I'm that interested in doing really. I went back over it for the because I did a video on on galaxy movies. So I went back over the subspace hemisphere would have been a fun movie I think is a good premise for one but like an Avengers level one where you've done >> a series of films building up to it >> which they will do. They will do an Avengers level threat but it will be probably poo poo and it's going to piss us all off cuz we'll have plenty of characters to be a mad at >> being included. Chicken Gracie. Chicken Gracie. Ah, yes. My favorite EAP member is Green Fringy. >> Oh, look at him go. >> Sorry, what did she say about Tourette's? Uh, basically like the the man with Tourette's should not be in public spaces because he'll insult and offend people, which is disgusting. >> Managed to recreate from the ground up an argument for segregation and it was really [ __ ] funny. But yeah, it's like, well, maybe they should put special pens for disabled people. >> Grace, what are you doing? It's remarkably insensitive when the [ __ ] whole point of him being there is that inspired a story, a lifed story that inspires a film that's all about how a lack of knowledge, a complete ignorance basically like malign and marginalizes all these people when they wouldn't need to be. And then she's like, we can solve their problem by marginalizing them. It's like, what the [ __ ] Grace? And uh and she was passionate about it, too. Like like it's it's his fault for being there. He should leave sort of thing. And I think he even apologized, right, which everyone was like, "No, that's so [ __ ] up." But of course, it's not like any kind of criticism on him as a character, like as a person. I mean, his character um because it's it just naturally you're going to want to do that, but that's the whole point. You shouldn't have to. Uh pain, pain, the pain in Mal Solid 3. Yes. Every frame a horrific grace face. You can pause it with some wackiness for sure. Uh, indoctrinate me in Nintendo World actual quote is from her apparently. I can believe that. A shilling for Super Mario incomprehensibility meter. Most fake fans are just trend chasing consumers, but she's [ __ ] insane. Anyway, uh oh, anyways, guys, but um in the words of Mhler, if her brain exploded, would it even mess up her hair? I remember that. You move from the screen to the screen from the screen. In fact, you move from the screen to the ring to the screen to the pen to the king. If you know, you know, I don't think I do know. >> Do not know. >> Sounds very specific, but yeah, I got nothing. Um, what's your opinion on kill monga or sorry, un alive manga? I don't know. But that's a funny like litmus test you can have for anybody. Hey, what do you think of kill? Actually, now it's what do you think of Killilmonger, Wanda, and Jean Gray? Just answer me that before we continue. They did it. Okay, the way that they did it, Grace, probably situational relationship, Mario and Peach. I will be the final super chat today. Final supercat is me. I am the final supper cat now. Beautiful. So, we have a collection of things to check out. I need I need to collect them. So you guys are going to have to, you know, discuss politics, I suppose. >> All right. >> What is your opinion on the status of the monarchy and Mushroom Kingdom? >> Uh, I don't know. That's I mean, are they is it is there is there a parliament in the Mushroom Kingdom that exists that we just never hear about? like is is Princess Peach kind of symbolic or you know rather than like an actual you know the monarchy isn't doesn't actually wield that much power. >> Well, my thinking is cuz Mario Galaxy implies that it wields absolute power because she takes care of absolutely every problem on the island but on in Mushroom Kingdom even and then she just [ __ ] off and leaves them to their own devices. So I think we need a toad workers collective to rise up like the French Revolution and behead her and take power for themselves. That's what we see in the movie though. That's the thing. That's in the movie. So whether or not that >> should be assumed as being accurate to what's present in the games, I guess the problem is we just don't see like the day-to-day running of the Mushroom Kingdom and >> whether or not it's a, you know, it's a monarchy that's actually got like any power or if it's just, hey, just sign all the all the bills that get passed in the Mushroom Parliament. >> The mushroom parliament. I wonder if they have a House of Lords style system or if it's like an actual like proper Senate. >> Who goes in there? Because I'm assuming the Toads are the commons. So, who would be >> uh Well, yeah, cuz who's the like landed gentry of the Mushroom Kingdom? >> Not Mario either, I guess, cuz he doesn't I don't know that he he's I mean, he is a working class workforce. >> Yeah, that's true. He is he is a I wonder if he's a citizen yet. he's been living there for a while or if he's just got like permanent residence sort of status in the Mushroom Kingdom. >> The next game is he loses his green card and gets kicked out of the country and has to find his way. >> There's been there's been a recent election. The sentiment has changed and it's [laughter] about Mario dealing with that reality. >> Keep importing Italian plumbers to do jobs for good toads. Toads deserve the jobs. [laughter] Mario out. I'm just imagining a bunch of toads. They took your [laughter] took. And then Mario pretends to be there with them wearing like a a mushroom hat. [laughter] We hate that Mario guy, don't we? He took our jobs. >> Have you got your uh stuff compiled there, Meoob? Or we need more? I'm a third of the way through. >> Okay. Um, >> we haven't figured out who the landed gentry of Mushroom Kingdom is yet, so we should probably get that sorted. >> Uh, Wario is like a businessman. He He's like he's he's pretty he's pretty obsessed with money. He's fairly rich, I want to say. I assume that he might that might be the C. But then again, I mean, well, cuz he's cuz he's Italian, too, isn't he? They they all are. and he's more like the capitalist class whereas the the landed gentry might be like inherited. >> Now I'm just imagining the idea that he's like making lots of contributions to whatever political party. Like that's what Wario does. [laughter] He's making all of these political donations and creating like a super PAC or something for whatever his preferred party is in the Mushroom Kingdom. >> Lobbying Toads to change daylight saving time and all of his other things. capitalists do. >> That's uh when did daylight savings get created initially? >> I want to say the 20ies was it a war thing? Most things like that end up being a war thing. >> Um >> that's a guess invented. >> God, apparently uh man, [clears throat] it's it's funny. Wikipedia has the history going back to like the 19th century. Um it's uh but hm it was uh yeah daylight saving sun was first implemented in the United States to conserve energy during World War I. >> Oh there you go. >> And so most places ended uh it after the war ended. But then it happened again in World War II and it was standardized by the United States by federal law in 1966 and widely adopted in Europe from [snorts] the 1970s as a result of the 70s energy crisis. Oh god. So what so why do we even do it then? [laughter] Why are we still doing it? That's >> understand why Europe does it because it sounds like it's poor person time. So like we need it. >> I [laughter] cuz it's funny. It's a common myth in the United States that daylight savings was first implemented for the benefit of farmers. That's what I thought. I thought it was because of farmers. I didn't realize that but apparently it's not. cuz I Yeah. Okay. Wow. H sure there's a story about like the guy who invented it or someone who advocated for it in the early days figured that like he would have longer in the evenings to play golf. I'm sure there's a guy who made that argument >> and then it was just widely adopted. So many of these world changing things turn out to be like a war thing, b just hilariously badly justified and see they just carry on even though nobody can really figure out why anymore. Yeah. Now that's um though it's funny when you look at a map it's uh there's a lot of places that are listed as formally using it and then not not really many countries that never did it. That's the interesting thing. It looks like that a lot of the countries that never did it is a lot of uh African countries specifically clustered towards the center. Um yeah, kind of like tropical countries because it's like Ven looks like Colombia and stuff didn't do it either. And then most of the world used to do it. And the only places that still do it is pretty much all of Europe, most of North America, uh Chile and [laughter] and a few states here do it cuz it's uh cuz not everywhere does it here either. Not which which makes our time zones incredibly straightforward. In the summer, it's it's particularly bizarre to almost figure out. Queensland is at the same position as New South Wales and Victoria in terms of its, you know, but it's it's it ends up being an hour behind and therefore half an hour ahead of South Australia [laughter] because daylight savings is done in South Australia, but not in the Northern Territory and not in uh not in Western Australia. >> So Queensland and Summit is half an hour behind South Australia even though it's further to the east. >> It's further to the east. That's the thing. It's actually further ahead. God, I never knew that daylight savings is is silly, isn't it? [laughter] Isn't it really? That's what that's making me realize. I thought it was >> There must be a reason. I just don't know what the reason is because I know there's that thing that when they change it every year when you go on and off it then it causes a whole bunch of problems because every like random things people crash more >> I think people suffer random heart attacks more as well like loads of health things but only for like the weeks immediately pre immediately after the the change in time zone then everyone adjusts again. Um, but there must be some benefit to it. Surely, mind you, no. Actually, >> I think I think the main one is that the the the sun is out more so during waking hours like and that instead in instead of in summer, the sun comes up at like 4:00 a.m. Comes up at like 5 or 6 or something. >> So, it's more like in line with the fact that, you know, human beings tend to be awake longer in the afternoon than uh than they are in the morning. So, like, which I guess probably makes sense in in Britain because like in some places you got the sun coming up at like 4 in the morning or something stupid, which never gets that early here or that late, I suppose. Conversely, I remember cuz when I went to the UK in the summer, I I uh I remember I went and watched a movie and then I was like, "Oh [ __ ] I'm going to get out of this at like 11:00." And then I went outside and it was still it was still like pretty bright. >> Yeah. like night wasn't that dark and that was very surreal because that is not that is not the case here. It gets it gets very dark in summer. I guess there's a logic there but yeah. No, I always thought I you know why I thought it was farmers. Mhler knows why. >> I'm searching for things. What's happening? >> I Why do you think that I thought daylight savings was bit about farmers? Uh, is that a reference to something that I'm forgetting? >> Yes. >> Ignore this image for now, but go on. What is it? >> Homer cuz Homer's like, "Ah, you know, the first time I've been to work." Exact. Yeah. Except for those stupid daylight savings tasty farmers. That's why I thought it was related to >> which is funny because it's not the only place I've heard that as like the reason, but it never >> Well, apparently it is. It is a common myth. apparently >> it never sat well with me because I was like farmers don't farmers get out before the [ __ ] sun rises regardless of the [ __ ] time. You know what I mean? Like they >> they they start early and they end late any regardless of >> according to good old Wikipedia farmers are one of the strongest lobbying groups against daylight savings >> which yeah does make sense cuz yeah they're getting up no matter what like like the idea that it's for their benefit doesn't really Yeah. And also just the fact that apparently the reason why it was um implemented was war related. It was related to World War I and two and efforts to save energy. Um yeah, I mean I you know how you learn something new every day. Thanks Wikipedia. I will not take Wikipedia slander. Okay, I won't stand for it. Reading Wikipedia articles gives you more knowledge than a lot of people have. A lot of people just don't even look into anything for why they believe anything. I'll take Grock. Thank you very much. All right. >> Oh, yes. That's right. Yes. Grock, the replacement for Wikipedia. Oh, where does where does Grock get it sources? The same [ __ ] place the Wikipedia does. [laughter] >> I have collected our adventure. Okay, so we start with >> Warhammer model of the whenever Cravec Mour recently revealed warsmith of the Iron Warriors. completely new guy and very handsome. >> Okay, man. Those are some things on his uh shoulders there. >> Yeah, >> he has a tail. >> Yeah, >> that hammer and and and I guess what is you know the black and yellow strips? What would they be designated like? Are they warning? >> Oh, it's cuz like construction hazards. >> Construction warning, maybe something like that. Yeah, looks like he could um he could do more destroying than building, but he's got the capacity to build. And I and I hope he's got the the spirit for it, you know. Um all right, next up we have Pokemon. And this one is the 374 Pokemon uh than the Ruby entry, which which reads, "Instead of blood, a powerful magnetic force courses through Beldum's body. This Pokémon communicates with others by sending controlled pulses of magnetism. And he looks like that. >> I vaguely remember this one cuz that's the one that evolves into the the Chongo guy that looks like this. That was helpful. >> Well, um, [laughter] as designs go, I'm uh I I don't I don't think much of this one. Kind of just >> doesn't not a strong impression one way or the other. >> I think this is another situation where if you said, "Do you know what this is from? I would never guess Pokemon. >> Yeah. >> Which I don't know. Says something. It says something. Gosh darn it. Uh which takes us to Kyoga. Uh named in mythology as the Pokemon that expanded the sea by covering the land with torrential rains and towering tidal waves. >> I am very partial to Kyogre. >> I think he's really cool. I think he looks very ancient and mysterious. Yeah, he's cool. Um, >> but I mean it could just be because Sapphire was my first Pokemon game, so I am biased. >> That's crazy. Cuz I, again, I was late to gaming, but not, I guess, to the uh Game Boy Color cuz I played Pokemon Blue, I think, and then Pokemon Yellow, which uh and then Gold. Gold is my best memories. I adored Pokemon Gold >> and then Crystal, but I never owned silver. >> Then you have the um the mega evolution. >> Boring. Boring. >> Oh, sorry. This is the primal form, right? >> What the [ __ ] is that? It's a new Why? What? >> Yeah, that's some new [ __ ] then. For [ __ ] sake. >> Yeah. [laughter] Yeah. Yeah. Uh then they said Google weed Pokemon and check out the result for the lizard which [laughter] >> he does look like a weed lizard. >> I mean they definitely knew what they were doing 100%. [laughter] >> Um I assume this is his evolution if assume either this is an evolution or a fan work but I saw that as well. [laughter] >> Uh these are these are really cool. I like them. >> I'm a big fan. This is This is pretty new Pokemon, isn't it? >> It's probably Yeah. So, >> yeah, it's a cool new Pokemon. I like that. >> Unless it is made up. Maybe somebody did it. I don't know. But I like it. >> He looks He's He's He's fantastic. [laughter] >> Uh, [clears throat] okay. Oh, I may have missed out one here. No, there it is. Okay, so we got Pokemon 381. Latio will only open its heart to a trainer with a compassionate spirit. Uh, this Pokemon can fly faster than a jet plane by folding its four legs to minimize air resistance. >> Yeah, I think I think uh these two are quite cool as well. I'm I'm I'm quite partial to these ones cuz it's Latio and Latas, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, they're cool. He's like a jet. He reminds me of the Corneria. >> What you like? He reminds you of Corneria. >> Well, I don't know how to pronounce it. I've just seen the word. >> Corner is the planet. >> Corner is the planet. Yeah. Are you Are you talking about the great fox or you talking about the >> whatever the ship is on that map >> on Smash Brothers? What? >> The big ship that you fight on or the little ships flying above it? >> Uh, big ship. I think >> that's the great box. Yeah, >> that then. >> Did you always think the Corneria was the name of the ship? >> Well, yeah, but I It just doesn't come up. So, >> Oh, we learned something new. He didn't He didn't know. Guys, he didn't know. Everyone make fun of him. [laughter] >> I mean, I haven't played a Star Fox game. I'm sorry. played a single one. >> I might have played, but like I've never like completed or bought and played one myself, like played it over a friend's house or something, >> but now is the best time to do it cuz you can play the remake with the extremely gay voices. >> So, [laughter] look, all right, the voices are not great, but uh it's not a bad remake. >> I prefer gay voices. >> It's not bad. >> Okay. Oh, sorry. Yes, we also have this. I I'm afraid I have to inflict this on you apparently. >> Oh, is that >> the primal evolution? >> Oh, for [ __ ] sake. [laughter] >> Oh jeez. Uh, okay. Then we have our extinct animals, the megaserops. Measerops. Megazerops. I don't know, but there he is. >> Oh, yeah. He's a funny looking fella. Hm. Whenever it's this sort of thing, it's so funny because they're actually like real. They they existed, but I'm always just like, "So, why did you evolve that? What does it do?" Like, >> yeah. What is any better? >> Like, what what does what need does nature have for spanners? Well, I guess it needs some. >> What's funny is it could work as a slingshot [laughter] >> if you sit on the back of it and you like have a big elastic band. Yeah. [laughter] Uh, we then have the next one, the Wleserops, the Aquaman of Trilobytes. Yeah, he is. He's a He's a wacky looking fella. Also, the Mega Seros was described as the quintessential Bront Brontto. Brontto Bronttoair. I have not seen that word uh before. And then a rockarasis. Aarocus is this guy. A little rendering of him here from drawing, I guess. Did Halflife leave something out is how this was described. This one looks very funky. >> Yeah. Now, he's a silly looking fellow. [laughter] >> What a beautiful set. And then we got some Ben 10 uh where are they requests over here? >> Ben 10 aliens or something. Yeah. Ben 10 alien of the day is upgrade its power to fuse with control, modify, and upgrade technology. >> Oh, I man cuz I I'm pretty sure I watched like not a small amount of this show. Um I'm trying to place cuz they had like different ones for each series that there were and I think there were like several of them. So I think I recognize that one. I think he's kind of cool, I guess. Um, and then we got another one whose name is XLR8 and it's pun it's a pun on its power. Super speed. Here they are. >> Yeah, I remember that one. >> Well, he's kind of alien looking a little bit. >> Yeah, that they are aliens. No, I mean alien. Not just aliens like in general. The head can say no more. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah, I could say that. >> Uh we also have cool birds. My god. Cool birds of the day. The eclectus parrot. Male and female are drastically different looking, which is rare for parrots. Uh >> parrots are cool. >> Very cool. They're only in the southern hemisphere like naturally. >> Can they be dragged into the northern? >> I mean, they have been, but uh but parrots are only from uh well well I say southern hemisphere but like southern and the tropics, but they're not from the northern hemisphere. Like all parrots are uh are from like Australia, South America. >> Um I'm pretty sure, let me double check. I'm pretty sure that is the case. Oh. Oh wait. Oh, no. Never mind. I don't even know where I got that from then. Um, but Oh, no. I'm totally um I got that totally wrong. I'm a fool. Damn it. I thought I thought it was something like all parrots are from the Southern Hemisphere, but that is not the case. Yeah, never mind. Totally disregard that. I was completely wrong. >> Very well. >> Oh, wait. Well, then again, wait, hold on. It was Was it something to do with true pirates? Um, oh yeah, I think uh I think true parrots are only from southern places typically. >> I think if we start getting into, you know, delineating true parrots and not true parrots, we're in dicey territory. It's a bit >> racist. Apparently there is a category for true parrots. Um, and uh, and yeah, they're widespread, but Mexico, Central, South America, subsaharan Africa, India, Southeast Asia, Australia. Um so that's macor laurates uh um yeah stuff like that budgeries budgies or but yeah bud bud yeah yeah budgies which is kind of interesting it means that a lot of a lot of the kind of birds that people have as pets I mean a lot of them are from Australia budgies are from Australia cockatos are from Australia it's kind of interesting that I guess not canaries Sorry. >> Uh, we have Lego pieces of the day. The first is the Star Wars planet Christmas ornament sort of collection. There's probably other photos to use for this one, but you you can get Bbles, I guess, and they're planets. Look at that. Those >> Oh, okay. Yeah. Cool. >> Yeah. Each one came with a mini set of relevant spaceship inside it to quote metal. We ball. I'm not even sure which one I would necessarily want the most. Probably the death star. >> Yeah, >> be fun. >> That sounds cool. >> And then we got uh the adventurer's blimp, which Yeah. Uh the piece was actually used as the the box they sold the set in. Only the only blimp they've ever done. Criminally expensive on the aftermarket as a result. Everyone wants the Lego blimp. All right. [laughter] And then finally, the blessed pipeman has endorsed the uh clear neon transparent neon uh orange chainsaw in his game award stream, which I will say I like this piece. It's a good one. >> Yeah, >> you can really tell what they're going for. Feels like it took a lot of craftsmanship. Anyway, thank you all so much your kind messages and donations. We shall see you next time. But for now, to pip here you see you later.