EFAP Mini - Catchin' up on EFAP #368, #369, #370, #371 - The Self-Destruction of Strange Things

Hello everybody and welcome to EAP super chat catchup mini flim flamy for 368 9 10 11 I guess is the way to put it. Stranger Things. Oh, how strange those things truly were by the end there. >> Y >> a show that destruction. >> Yeah. Be relegated to the >> the annals of forgettingness history. I I don't I think it's uh as days go by the less and less people will think about it because that's just how it goes. >> Been thinking that in the time since um we recorded those episodes and the time we're recording today, the Duffer brothers have already had their next Netflix thing cancelled. >> That was the Burus I think, right? And it was kind of like >> Stranger Things with old people and it had a single season and then they said no. Netflix said no to a second season. Well, they were trying to copy the D and D run. So, I guess they're going to need to find an original idea that they get a season or two out of uh many years later. [snorts] >> I think that's the plan. So, >> it's not going to be a good season and they're going to have the lingering discontent with Stranger Things bog it down. I think they're I mean, they're just bound for the same fate as uh as Dn D, right? Where they made that show on Netflix, but nobody cares. >> Yeah. >> Or Three Body Problem is that the one. >> Yeah. Yeah. And nobody nobody gives a [ __ ] though. I'm pretty sure that got renewed for a second and third season. So, I guess >> but that'll be it. I imagine you know what comes after that? Nothing. >> Yeah. Well, all right. So, we start with an easy one. Free. What is your political opinion on the arrest of the Venezuelan president and the potential it has for the oil market? >> I don't know how the oil market works. I think anybody who says that they do, who isn't an oil market person, probably doesn't know how oil works. So, I don't know. >> There you go. >> I was minally overshadowed within two months of happening. So, it's like it's oh my goodness, the most dramatic thing to happen to oil is Nicholas Madura gets arrested and two months later it's like, oh no, there's a war now. Cool. >> Yeah. >> Uh, I'm not watching this crap. Many people chose not to watch Stranger Things and yet many people did. You know, it's >> Well, yeah, a lot of people definitely did, but um you know, that was a good decision, you not doing that. >> Uh Nick, did Jonathan know Will was gay? >> Yeah, I think so. Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, of course you did. Right. >> Kind of implied in season 4 when they have the um the chat in the car. >> Yes. At the end, all you needed for Will was the scene at the end. You can cut everything else out about coming out completely or keep the the coming out scene. >> Keep the scene but get rid of all the conversations before it. Is that what I said? >> Um I prefer the conversations to the actual scene if anything. >> Well, the scene is um >> the scene's horrible. >> Kind of a meme, isn't it? >> Um I didn't watch the latest season, but I think I'm close to in guessing someone got magic powers by coming out of the closet. >> Kind of. Yes. >> Yep. Uh, police chief Hopper, I thought you were dead. I was. Oh, yes. [laughter] He's fun, isn't he? With his plot armor. Uh, >> yeah. >> Police chief who shot and killed a bunch of government officials. Yeah, we don't talk about that. We don't we we look, it was the end. Okay, we're moving on. Just uh just just just move on. Shut up. Upcoming Stranger Things spin-off. Somehow Vecna returned. I don't know, man. >> They might do that. It'll be more the mind flickers. doing um Tales of 85. I think that's already out. I've not seen it yet. >> Yes. Um not sure I ever will to be honest. >> Have you seen that? I don't know. >> I don't know. No one spoke about it, but they have the the first Shadow Play thing, which I think they're now trying to turn into an actual Netflix thing, so it'll be somehow Mind Flare returned. And I think they have one other live action thing that they were planning on doing. >> Well, uh I heard a rumor that someone is going to be gay. Just one person. I don't think we'd be that limited. Try and crank those numbers. I'm waiting for the announcement when the Duffer brothers chop off parts rod shaped and become irrelevant like two similar brother I mean sisters. I think the comparison is D and D. Not like the Wowskis or anything. The makes way more sense. I think especially with like a major cultural impactful TV show that uh went for longer than people probably thought it did. Honestly, >> I remember when I found out Platoon is gay. He said, "I'm gay." And then he made fun of some gay people. It was clean and efficient. >> Well, well, >> I think the first time I've ever mentioned it was a She-Hog video, just saying like I'm I'm not going to be leaning fully into like the whole anti-woman thing. I've just never really seen much use in them. Um, [laughter] I think that's when it first got mentioned. Uh, like the Eric Andre potato sketch except it's Will's Will going, "Guys, guys, guys, I'm gay. I literally don't like women." Does Nick have the ST Lego sets? Oh, he might do. I don't know. Be a question for him. The Club Intimidator was the most 80s thing to ever 80s. Obviously, that wasn't their intention, but it's a neat time capsule. Yeah. I mean, it's kind of interesting how any film about an era, you know, and it's advancing toward 80s, 90s, 2000s and stuff for like nostalgia. We've got a [ __ ] ton of recorded material of exactly what those times were like. I know that we technically had that still for earlier eras, but this one, the further you go, the more heavily documented everything is like anything you want to know, >> you'll know. I wonder if um if we've reached critical mass on 80s and now not that ' 90s is exactly like an untapped, you know, sort of well, but I get the impression that the '90s is uh is sort of where um is where and and the 2000s will probably start to get dabbled with more. Um but the ' 80s feels like it's probably a well that's run dry at this point. >> Yeah, just look at the Masters of the Universe. Yes, that's the long slow death of the 80s kind of culminates in that. I think it's we've done so much and we're now doing He-Man which is buming. I think people are 80s now. The guy who did mixtape, right? He thought that the 80s was played out. That's why he changed it to the 90s and made it so believable. >> Well, I mean you got to remind people at this point 80s nostalgia like that doesn't really I mean that's for Gen X basically. you know, there's there's not even many millennials that could really say that they can tap into '8s nostalgia. Not really, except for basically the oldest millennials. Um, but then from that point onward, it's it's going to be the '9s and then the 2000s, you know, and it's like, yeah, it's it's aging out essentially because at this point, like '8s nostalgia for millennials is like kind of almost this weird wish fulfillment for this era that most millennials didn't exist in or remember. Uh, when will you guys talk about the CVM room? CVM? >> CVM room? I don't know what that is. >> I don't know when we'll talk about that because I don't know what it is. Did you know Metroid Prime one? Oh, sorry. Metroid 1 and 2 sold more than Super. Where's the Justice lol? Also, Stranger Things is a bad show. Agreed. And >> sold more than what? >> Sold more than Super Metroid. They're saying Metroid 1 and 2. >> Oh. Um, yeah, that's that's possible. Um, I that's entirely possible, I guess. Yeah, that's a but I mean something that's worth, you know, Metroid Metroid on the whole is uh not a high ultra high selling series. >> Um, cuz I think Metroid Prime, well, for the longest time, Metroid Prime was the most successful one. I think it sold like 3 million copies, which of course when you compare it to like, oh yeah, Mario, what's like the most successful installment? Oh, Mario Kart 8, which sold like 100 million copies. It's uh yeah, or even even stuff like Zelda, but uh Metroid Dread, I think, ended up being the bestselling. And it wasn't Metroid Prime 4, which is a consolation of its own, I I guess, and defies the trend defies the trend of the um of the Switch essentially making every series more successful. Um, not Metroid as a whole, cuz Metroid Dread was the bestselling one. So, that was part of it. But Metroid Prime 4 not seemingly selling that well is a uh interesting bucking of that trend, which I wonder if that has anything to do with the lack of quality. >> Nah, it's a coincidence. Stranger Things season 1 equals Avengers. Season 2 and three equals Age of Ultron. Season 4 equals Infinity War and Endgame for season 5. H >> I think Age of Ultron is better than season two and three of Stranger Things. I would agree. >> Yes. Yeah. Yeah. >> I think it's a fun fit. I I understand what you're doing. All right. >> I got the logic. >> I ended 2025 watching Empire Strikes Back. I open 2026 with Fellowship of the Ring. >> Good. Uh, that's a good way to spend time. Yeah. >> Just finished last stream. Joseph's brain is vestigial. The fact he thinks Terraria would be easy to make compared to Scong. What's song? S k o n g. >> It was It was a big budget game, right? >> Oh, Silkong. >> Oh, Silkong shows why he's a failed dev. Well, yeah. Um, I'll take no disparaging of Terraria. So, you know, along with many other games of its kind like Yeah, it's it feels in the same realm as we talked about as the whole like complicated games deserve a seven out of 10 or whatever. Just weird. fits exactly in that that um it's this belief that the game being bigger budget and I suppose fundamentally more complex in terms of it just being like more code, more systems, like more graphics like earns it something. It like as if as if it kind of means anything when no it's like it's kind of the same as with movies, right? like there's a there's there sort of like innate qualities sort of foundational qualities that can compensate dramatically for um for a lack of money, you know. >> Yeah. >> Like you know what would you rather play? Would you rather play Suk song or you want to play Black Ops 7? I I could tell you which one costs more money to make, but like who cares? >> Uh what happened to pregnant ladies in the UD base after Boom? Uh they were all dead. Don't worry. They were all dead. They were all dead. Don't worry. >> Yeah, it's all good. >> Doesn't Doesn't feel very convincing when they say that. >> Yeah, don't worry about it. >> There is that conversation when when Mike first hears about that 11 says, "Oh, there's there were a bunch of pregnant women in a hospital." And like at no point does it enter anyone's mind. Oh, we should go rescue them. His first response is, "We can blow that up on the way back." [laughter] Like, what? You [ __ ] psychopath. That's not that's not supposed to be your character. Uh, after thinking more about Silkong versus E33 since a few days ago, I remember that I do not care about the game awards and that TGA is asinine at best. >> Um, well, something that's worth remembering is, you know, it's it's worth thinking. It's like who who who makes the choices on, you know, what wins? And in the case of the Game Awards, uh, it is heavily heavily skewed towards the outlets that nobody [ __ ] likes, >> like IGN and stuff. they choose which games win. So if they're, you know, if their assessment doesn't mean anything to you generally, you know, why should it mean anything to you necessarily what they pick as the game of the year? That being said, Astrobot getting game of the year that one time was great. That was really fun and it was really fun seeing people get mad because it was a platformer and a platformer shouldn't beat like an RPG or something. I mean that's has I mean that ties back to the Joseph Anderson um Alana Piss point, you know, it's a little platformer. Why would that be the game of the year? It's like I don't know cuz there's nothing wrong with it basically. >> Have you guys checked out any indie shows on YouTube? Not really. No. >> Well, uh I like a fox in space. That's cool. That's a really cool project. I'll be the Chief, I suppose, would count as a would would definitely count as a as an indie indie show. And how long they don't even register these things as like indie shows as opposed to >> No, I I just think of it as stuff that people make on YouTube. That's cool. [laughter] >> Uh would have been cool if it was called Stranger Things 5 things got 11 11 even stranger, but you put the in brackets 11 even 11 even. Yeah. here. I guess we can't always expect peak. Unless you Dumbos play DDLC. Oh my. I've been reliably informed that Bazinga is the answer to life, the universe, and everything. If you disagree, then maybe you haven't discovered empathy. H I'm not old enough to get empathy yet. Be there, though. >> No. >> What about bazinga? >> Are you do you have that in your heart? >> No. >> What is bazinga? That's what That's what uh Sheldon says in uh in Big Bang Theory. That's like his catchphrase. >> Oh, >> yeah. >> Yeah. I don't think I have whatever that is. >> Have you Have you ever watched an episode of Big Bang Theory? Actually, Platoon, >> maybe, but not deliberately. I think it may have come on TV one time. >> That's a fun because I I've not watched an insubstantial amount of that show. I think I've watched several seasons of it. The Big Bang Theory because I have a very complicated relationship with that show and that I wholeheartedly agree with the criticisms of it, but it does make me laugh sometimes. >> And you know what? It took a lot to admit that. So, it's good it's good that you said it. >> Yeah. I mean, I I it it does it it's uh there there are some jokes that are funny. Like there are uh even even though I agree that a lot of the the show is just referencing something that is vaguely nerdy and then just laughing at the fact that it got referenced at all. Hey, he mentioned Thundercat. H Yep, he sure did. >> Mhm. Nick, please play the $300 dono sound for EAP law. I've heard that. It's like a spam of all of the most iconic LCO rants alto together. Amazing. Happy New Year's, lads. This season was an absolute chore, but at least the nightmare is over. Do you have a recommended cut off point for The Simpsons? >> Uh, you should stop when it stops being funny enough to warrant the time, which uh which that could you could draw that line anywhere, but it will almost certainly be beyond the scope of the golden age. >> It will be beyond that point. thinking about that ratio of time spent versus quality once you'll post like season season 8 and then you'll start thinking about it. >> It's like when I I wanted to actually watch American Dad properly and then I stopped about like season 4 cuz I was just like eh, you know, I'm not getting that much out of it anymore. >> Lumbo rags, did you ever get any trouble for Quantum TV get the chance to join ActMan on that front? I'm afraid he's not here to answer this question. Luke's dad had a based conversation in season 3. Dude, I don't even remember like that Lucas's parents exist them sometime. Like I feel like they just got barely any screen time. >> They may even have only had that one scene. I think they showed up in like the Satanic Panic School meeting, but that scene is where is that? I think Lucas is asking what to do if you've pissed off like a woman in your life and his dad basically says women are always right. So, yeah, great scene. >> By the way, what Dustin does with his cat is what Dr. Owens does with Eleven and the portal, but the show doesn't seem to recognize that with NY's plotline. What Doctor does with Eleven and the portal is the same as Dustin. So, the cow gets eaten. >> Yeah. >> And Dustin hides it. >> 11 in the port. I mean, he covers it up in se at the end of season two. Is that what we're talking about? >> I'm I'm not sure how that plays into when they say NY's plotline then. >> I do hate Austin for that, by the way. That like >> cuz when I watched season 4 and I liked him, I didn't know he did that. But once I once that it's like, oh, that like lingers over you forever, dude. That's like really terrible. >> And it really annoys me that the show is like, yeah, but he got like a replacement cat. It's like, oh, that Oh, okay. What if it was a dog? Would you present it the same way that you just get a replacement dog and like nobody gives a [ __ ] Yeah. No, you wouldn't. Like, it's just I don't like it at all. >> Uh, so Rags, Joseph Anderson told us that Stardw Valley is a loweffort game because it lacks boss fights. Please roast him hard for this idiotic take. Yeah, that because Rags is a big fan of Stardw Valley. How many [ __ ] said that? Boss fights. This is pretty funny because like when >> it's interesting the difference between him scripted and him not because he's pretty >> he he he will really surprise you whether scripted or um or you know live when he's live he's he's much more animated but animated in a in a very clunky way. That was a distinct impression of uh that little rant he was doing about silk song and everything was like there's a bit of a there's a bit of tism energy here. >> I'm a fan of >> uh a sort of out there take like you just for example some good news happens then someone goes let me tell you why this is actually awful and you're like oh okay but this was a weird one of silk song really competitive price and he's like this is bad for the whole industry like oh >> and then rainforest You know, >> I guess I guess he must be thrilled with Grand Theft Auto 6 raising the uh the price. >> A high tide raises all ships or whatever. [laughter] >> Hi, Laura of the YouTube channel Southern Fried Cinema Siblings. Molly, you might you just might hate Black Widow as much as I. Your review utterly magnificent. Our Lady Spies episode, Black Widow versus Black Sunday, soon uh up right now. Avatar, why it had no cultural impact. I see. Yeah. I mean, between us, we seem to, you know, Platoon managed to sort of destroy a deep fry, I guess, because Southern Fried is on my mind now that you've said that. Uh Avatar, you're quite the fan of that show series. Bet you can't wait for fourth one. >> I can't wait to hear that. That one is never coming out. And that's true. H. Uh, it'll be interesting to do a roundup of characters hated by the writers that were actually the heroes. Steve, John Walker, Colonel Tai, Quaric, Commander Edington, Captain Jelico, etc. Who's Colonel Tai? >> He's in Battlestar Galactica, I think. Unless there's another Colonel Tai. >> There may be several, but yeah. Yeah. Fair. This finale is mediocre, but I still find it to be as good to be good that the show ends the way it always was meant to as when they were only given the one season. The kids playing D and D and L's situation is unknown. I don't I don't really >> No, that that's that is incorrect. It doesn't end playing D and D anyway. It ends with a different family's kids playing D and D. >> I rags your impression of Grace is something I didn't know I needed. Please do the chicainery monologue in her voice if you're familiar. If not, dealer's choice of similar greatness and length. Cheers. I'm afraid he is not familiar. He he he hasn't seen better Call Soul, but I'm sure he would enjoy that scene as everyone does. Has anyone played Far Cry 3: Blood Dragon? Yes. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Brilliant. >> Better 80s themed movie experience. IMO Cheesy Lion Synth Wave, CRT, Film Grain, '8s nostalgia. I I was always surprised it didn't I don't know. referenced more. >> I'm surprised there wasn't like a Blood Dragon game outright. Um I think >> that would be the consequence. This is what I'm saying. It's like I'm surprised it didn't make more of an impact with people. It just seemed to come and sort of go and it was like wow. >> I suppose what's interesting is I think that there was understated ways made an impact. I think that Blood Dragon was probably really helpful for synth wave. >> Um >> garnering like some popularity as a as as a genre. I mean, that was almost certainly my first introduction to the genre, and I I really like synth wave. I listen to it a lot. It's a It's a cool genre. >> That soundtrack is filled with references, too, like to other movie soundtracks. So cool. >> Lots of Terminator references like, "Sorry, I'll stop. >> Sorry, get me going. I'll be dancing for hours." >> The show you're thinking of is The Truman Show. I hope that helps. Has Nicholas seen the Truman Show? I don't know. Uh, can we rename the Duffer Brothers to The Dumber Brothers? Ho ho. >> Got him. >> That'll get him. >> Um, oh, criticism of the day. You guys talk too much about how much money a film makes. As critics, stuff like that shouldn't really come up and instead focus exclusively on quality. God, there's so much wrong with what you just said. [laughter] >> Yeah, I don't even I'm not sure where to begin with that. Um, number one, as long as we're not relying on the box office or lack thereof to make qualitative assessments, there's no problem fundamentally at that point. Uh, number two, it it matters. I mean, it determines what gets made. I don't know why people talk about it as if like both critics and >> Hello. >> Not a film. >> What? >> You dropped out there. >> Oh, what? Oh, all right. You're on number two, I think. >> All right. Number two is of course of course it makes sense that critics and audiences would care about whether or not a film is makes money or doesn't make money for just a multitude of reasons. I'm not even sure which one to start with. Number one, if it's something that you care about, you probably want it to be successful so that there will be more of it and that the people who made it are rewarded for their efforts. But number two, it's totally acceptable to be like, "Dude, that movie sucks, and I hope it loses money, and I hope that doesn't get a sequel, and I hope that the people who made it are not in a position where they can get even more money to make something that's bad or, you know, delve into some sort of intellectual property that I enjoy and ruin that, too. Um, of course, it's relevant. >> I just didn't realize the limit on critics talking about." And it's like I don't even like the word critics honestly as opposed to just like >> No, I mean yeah >> with guys talking about the news related to media and also media like the meta of media as well. It's like how would this not come up? Um, especially like now of all times where box office numbers are determining the the future of one something take something like Star Wars uh where it's like a cataclysm right now of of this enormous IP, this colossus that's [ __ ] falling over. Uh, I know it's not quite box office, but you understand what I mean. Doctor Who, it's it's been [ __ ] shuttered. It's going dormant because of its inability to generate any revenue or eyes. And then uh you know a more interesting sort of combat that's happening is the James Gun fight for DC which box office decides all of that stuff does. It's all the future of stories. >> I don't know why that wouldn't come up. >> You know if if movie making is art meets commerce it would be really weird to ignore the commerce part of [laughter] that equation. It's it's pretty relevant. >> I don't see what the problem is. As long as we don'tate end up arguing something like, "Hey, the box office was low. That must mean it's an awful film." >> Yeah. Which I mean, >> which we don't do. >> Is that something that we ever have ever said ever in the history of anything? >> It's more likely to be it's either Shard and Freder because something that is [ __ ] is getting no money, which is then a springboard for a conversation about why that is the case, or it's misery and depression, which is Toy Story 5 earning a billion dollars anymore. Um, you know, that's all relevant material. Um, if we hadn't spoken at all about box office, then like what are we supposed to allow it to go unanswered, for example, when a whole like section of the internet briefly decides that Predator Badlands uh puts the franchise in the healthiest place it's ever been in. It's one of the best Predators movies ever and the audiences are rewarding it with a huge amount of money. Something that is flatly untrue. Um, but which took up a huge amount of the discourse around that film. Like obviously we address that because it's a lie and lying is bad. >> You tell it. Yeah. like is the claim that we should have said nothing when when people said that we should say ah that's not in our purview. Let's not talk about that cuz that would be really silly. >> Uh love to listen to Stranger Things OST when studying. Works wonders. By the way, Steve dodged a bullet with Nancy. Hello rags. True and true. Yeah, it's a cool original soundtrack, especially season one. >> Yep. >> Nancy is the equivalent of the DMPC who no one likes but the dungeon master. And she's super cool and important. We swear. >> She's so [ __ ] horrible. >> Yeah, she's so horrible. >> Been difficult to in any way support for a long time, not [clears throat] just like later seasons. Have any of you played Far Lone Sales? It's a cool little indie game. I recommend it. Very intuitive and gorgeous. Hi, Rags. No, >> I ain't never heard of Far Loan Sales. After hearing hearing laser, I thought of Austin P's freaking sharks with freaking laser beams attached to their heads and realized that was more grounded than what you were describing. [laughter] Yeah, many such cases. Season 5 informed me of something I was beginning to believe after Mando season 3. The worst thing a bad show can do is end. That may sound odd, but hear me out. If a bad show never ends, then the fans of it can cope all they want about the quality. the next thing will explain it all and retroactively make it good. This mindset cannot be maintained if there's no next thing. Therefore, if a bad show never ends, the fans never have to come to terms with it. So, when it does end, their eye flies toward the creators, begging for an explanation of the nonsense or they opt for a mysterious next episode that will fix everything still. >> Mhm. Episode 9. It is coming. Um, but no, yeah, that's that's how it's worked with loads of different shows. Even ones that collapse over a very long time, as long as there's more coming, it does feel like it's like it's not the end of the road. It can still work. It can still work. Like I said, the crazy thing with The Boys was I started seeing um uh in my recommended like, okay, we got two episodes left to wrap up these 17 plot threads. So, I'm a little worried right now. It's like, oh, you should already have concluded it's it's doomed. But the fact that you're like, "It could still wick. It could still wick. It's still good. It's still good." [laughter] >> And then it comes out >> slimy >> and you're like, "Oh, well, that was [ __ ] Damn." The dialogue in Dispatch was so poor. Molly and Moodle stream legit sent me to hospital. Should be out soon. I watched for Nuts. We love you, Nuts. Well, yeah. I didn't like the dialogue in Dispatch, but you know, a lot of people apparently did, and that's wonderful. You you guys know anything about Dispatch? Lady Dispatch? >> No. >> I've heard of it, but I've never played it. >> I have no idea what that is. >> Uh, it took me a [ __ ] hour to realize that Nick responding to chat saying, "This is pre-recorded was an obvious joke." Yeah, I always find those kind of funny. Uh, like whenever someone says that on a live stream because it it should be so categorically obvious it's live. like there's no way you could possibly question, especially with chat coming up on screen, but it does work. A lot of people, and that's probably due to, and this isn't a criticism, a lot of people just sort of casually passively watching, so they're like, "Oh [ __ ] am I on is this pre-recorded? I didn't realize." And then uh like, "No, yeah, it's all good. Rags and drinkers should play Portal 2 co-op together." That would be funny. I think they both want to do Resident Evil 5 before that, though, honestly. Uh, does Jonathan know this isn't pre-recorded? I don't think Jonathan was aware. I don't think he'd like us talking about a show like this, you know. Vecna smokes Lucky Strikes. Yeah, probably. I demand Nick shows the Sonic video. Oh, I'm aware of that. Um, I can't remember if he we I think we talked about it, but maybe we'll save it some other time. I don't know. Uh, don't spend this on crack cocaine. Put it towards some decent regular cocaine like normal people do. No. Yeah, we get high quality coke on ehab for sure. >> Yeah. Don't let these guys get like the bottom of the rung stuff. >> Want a show that takes forever to come out and actually gets better writing with each episode? Watch the amazing digital circus. Also, high rags. Come yum. Good old Amazing Digital Circus. They've wrapped now right on season one I think. >> I think so. >> With a movie. Have anyone seen broadly what the reception of the movie is? I don't know. >> No, the only thing I saw was that people were upset that it was going to be a movie that they would have to pay and see, but you know, it's um as fans doing van [ __ ] I don't know how people regarded it. >> Yeah, fair. I mean, you know, I think we talked about that at one point, but I would have thought that would be somewhat good news as in your thing is getting so popular it can release in a theater. It's like, hey, neat. Um, but then again, your thing going mainstream is never a good thing. In fact, man, has there ever been a good show with a smoke monster? >> H >> cuz I know they're referencing Lost with that being another show that collapsed. >> Smoke monsters in good shows. There's probably one got to be out there somewhere. Someone in chat will know. Notice the voice actors for Bouldersgate 3 doing D and D sessions and stuff online. Would have been cool to see the actors do that here as well. Playing D and D. I I don't think you were ever going to get that. The actors, I'm afraid. Maybe >> they don't know anything about it. Even the Darth said that they actually don't know anything about DND. They played Magic the Gathering, but they just picked Dn D because it was kind of known. >> Of course, you know. >> Yep. >> Uh, a pre-recorded EVAP. Obviously, you were scared of getting smugst also. Hi, Rags. Hello. Indeed. Stranger Things is the best example of um actually storytelling where everything is post talk hawk and pulled out of the ass pretty much. Yeah, I'm going to disagree with that. They're iconic for their sudden revelations and explanations that make no [ __ ] sense at all. They love it. Stranger Things. Oh, wait. Uh IMO after changing Robin into a lesbian, they didn't give a [ __ ] about her anymore. And of course, they couldn't allow her to be a threat to the straight characters. A threat. >> That was kind of the end. I don't I don't know where the threat thing comes from. But that coming out scene which was way better done than Will Swan though it did trample on it. Um that is kind of the end of her as a person. She stops being a thing after that. She just becomes like a personality. >> I know. I even saw people who are big fans of her character said she was ruined post season 3. Mhm. >> She's a goofball. I think they wanted to like push that she was really autistic as well, right? which surprising amount of characters in all kinds of content these days end up with like hit with the autism stick. Um I don't know if it's just an excuse or if it's intentional as in like >> oh right like to like they they [ __ ] up with the character and so to compensate they're like no no they're autistic. >> Yeah. They're representation like okay >> I don't I do not believe that the dos would have made her autistic without telling the audience explicitly that that's what they've done to get applause for that. So, the fact that they didn't do that, I think that's just people looking at a badly written character and saying it must be autism, which is mean to autists. >> Yes. >> Well, yeah. What does that say about what [laughter] what does that say about what you guys think of autistic people? >> Annoyingly, how often characters explain unknown phenomena with wild metaphor using random nearby objects and then proceed as if it's absolute fact. Yes, it's it's what they got known for eventually. Steve is the Dawn's nephew. >> Yes, to an extent. I think that's that's viable. Even though >> I guess the Dawn is he'd >> be the Dawn that was the ' 90s, so >> it's not Yeah, they're not too far away. Uh >> well, yeah, cuz he was that guy was like 30, so they could be brothers. They could be brothers, actually. Yeah. >> Hello, massives. Long time since I caught a live stream. You guys were complaining about the lack of dinosaur movies this year. I just saw a stupid fun one called Primitive Wars. Vietnam with killer dinosaurs. I've heard about that one. I think Drinker recommended it as a bit of fun. So, there you go. Is MorbiiUs better than this show? >> Well, I mean, I haven't seen MorbiiUs. Neither have I. >> Um, [laughter] >> yeah. Like, it's a very funny aspect of MorbiiUs is just nobody's watched it. >> Like, nobody's watched it [laughter] even though >> and I just don't remember anything about it. But it's it's shorter than Stranger Things, so it might be better. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, true. >> Um, this is pre-recorded. Why must you turn this into a stream of lies? >> I would never. What form of time travel has EAB adopted? Mes to incorporate chat into the pre-recording. Not reprising arrival, I hope. Terminator time travel is what we did. Yep. Makes complete sense. between Sparta, madness, and music. What is this? This is probably madness I'd go with out of those options. Yeah. Hello, lads. [clears throat] Just want to say thanks for the great analysis. Over the years, I've learned a lot about writing, watching you guys, and I am now running a Kickstarter campaign for my book, The Dragon Slayers. Wish me luck. This is the year we fix media. Oh, >> good luck. >> Yeah, [laughter] I hope that goes well. There may be a bit of work to do on the front of fixing media, but you know what? I like a challenge. On second thoughts, Gary Rag should play Portal with Gary. It would be the funniest thing once Gary figures out all the buttons or if he figures it out. I just hope he played Mixtape ultimately. That's the the main thing I want to see. Brought to you by Punto Al's time editing software. I remember Punto. I'm expecting to go to bed before you start season five. Uh did we start season five in the first stream? I think we did actually, right? >> I think we got through like one episode. >> The only problem was uh we didn't just need to do season five. We also needed to do the um the documentary, the iconic documentary. >> Maxine was written on a L break without them. >> I can believe that. Dead enough to open a portal you can duct tape over. Hey man, you can duct tape over a lot of stuff is really good [ __ ] Especially if you've got Flex Seal. That stuff is really good from what I understand. >> Oh, since Gary isn't here anymore, Pineapple does not belong on pizza. >> You're not going to catch me disagreeing. >> Yep. >> Elfen lied is the anime version of this show done years ago. All right, fair enough. Downgrading from Lovecrafty and existential horror to edgy emo super villain was a poor choice. um for their capacity as writers, uh Vecna offered them something that they could, I think, do more with, but broadly, yeah, it was a bit disappointing to go from, you know, the upside down was this horrifying other world that we can't understand at all to where it's an angry guy who's getting revenge. You're like, okay. You know, like I said, it just allowed them to focus a bit in season 4 where some good things happened, but oh well. That reminds me, since the Cold War is happening, if the US government found a Russian lab using a super mole as a front on American soil, that would have turned the Cold War very hot. Yeah, probably. It would have been some geopolitical ramifications. Yes. But um then again, you the Russians having like alive versions of smoke monsters and, you know, captured also should have maybe had some implications, but we just forget that. Uh, that reminds me. Uh, oh, wait. What do you think of the queer bay thing with Mike and Will and the downright homophobic writing of Will? I know. So much of Mike season 3 and four could have been explained with internalized homophobia, but he just turned into a nothing burger instead. >> Um, >> they wanted applause. >> Yeah, >> that is the only reason that exists. And so like they could have just kept it going. they semi-agnowledged, half acknowledged. There were versions of the coming out scene that could have been made to work if it was actually personal and it wasn't, you know, half the population of the United States in the room. Um, but I don't think you needed to to go all the way, you know, towards enlarging it. But their motive for doing that was just to say, look how amazing we are. And um, they, you know, they put everybody through the ringer for that. They got loads of advice apparently from the actor who, let's just say, is not a writer. So, um, you know, maybe maybe don't take advice from him. Um, you know, it was just a lazy, cynical, you know, awards attempt, I think, which, well, I hope they're happy with that glad award they got. >> And, you know, it's always been weird, too, cuz like the fan a lot of the fan base really wanted them to get together, right? But the writers never intended that at all. >> So, >> obviously not. >> No, it was always just going to piss them off. Um, my girlfriend pointed out today that I totally missed is that these kids shouldn't be graduating high school. Starting in 83 when they're 11ish and ending 87 means they'd be sophomores at best. Yeah, but that doesn't give you as clean an ending where they're graduating, does it? Can't do that. [ __ ] it up. God. Watching Stranger Things for monsters, but the real monsters are the EAB hosts. >> Well, yeah. >> True. We work hard to maintain that. Hello, Mingus, Ringus, Fringus, Little Plingus, and the all groovy guests. Today is my 24th birthday. This show has been a highlight of my week for years now, and I hope the tisms continue ever more. Don bless you all, my good folk. Damn, that means you were probably watching us when you were 17 then, right? At least if time works the way that I think it does. Happy birthday, 24th. Thanks for recommending Life of Chuck yesterday, Frankie. That was an enjoyable 2-hour break from this. I mean, >> good movie, man. Really good movie. >> That was my my goat of 2025. That was a That was a really nice movie. [laughter] The one time I might use that word just because it feels more appropriate than ever. How nice, how friendly, how wholesome, how life affirming, despite the darkness within to an extent. Mrs. Wheeler got nine wine bottle jabs in on the demo while it just stood there awkwardly. Yeah, it's a terrible payoff. This is dumb as [ __ ] A shilling for the Stranger Things disappointment counter constantly ticking over season after season, which is I mean it's just there's a bit of nuance in the it's crazy that season 4 had enough in it that it made everyone think that season 5 was going to be amazing as opposed to if you look at Game of Thrones season 7, a lot of people consider that the worst season beyond eight. you know, like like Game of Thrones just descends u with some highlights or whatever, but a lot of people think four is the best season since one of Stranger Things, which is Yeah, >> there's an argument for that as well. I mean, and it's so unusual cuz as you say, most things do the more Game of Thrones thing of steady and then increasing decline and there isn't a break from that. It's very unusual that you get decline, rapid decline, fairly significant jump in quality and then rapid decline again. It's it's a weird pattern. It kind of makes you wonder how much of season 4 the Duffers really wrote. >> You have to wonder because they're just so plainly incompetent and kind of stupid. [laughter] >> Um, Fring's defense of shitty awful directors is my only joy in life. Never change, Franco. Also, Hi, Rags. my my defense of of terrible directors. >> Maybe this did we mention for some reason I'm having like a memory of Shyamalan and maybe we had some pieces of >> Oh, it might be that I'll I'll go to bat for some bad directors. Um because there's some aspect of them that's like redeeming in their film making. >> Yeah. Like >> Oh yeah, it's probably because I I I got really critical of the Duffer brothers. >> [laughter] >> Consider the Duffer brothers and people like Shawn Levy or Payton Reed versus >> uh Michael Bay. >> Even Michael Bay. Yeah, even Michael Bay where it's like, well, the guy the guy can occasionally make something that's worthwhile. Like it's not, you know, to be fair, we're talking about 20 years ago with this, but you know, now I'm not very familiar with what he's doing now. Maybe he is even worse than, you know, he was like even 10 years ago. Um, but yeah, I mean there are a lot of these sort of quintessential go-to bad directors who there's more to be said for them than like the Duffer brothers. When you watch that documentary, you were just watching like a set of creators that are just barereft of like essentially bar of of like insight. Um, it's it's honestly fascinating. And um I suppose what's unfortunate Yeah. is that we used to have characterful bad directors. Now, like the bad directors that we get um are just kind of idiots and uh and they get a lot of money. Um and they managed to get away with it for a little while as well through whatever means. >> So much has been figured out. >> Like a lot of it isn't even their decisions. It's just like the system doing its thing. So it all looks the same when when you have directors who don't want to make changes. You have a whole bunch of these very talented people that just become involved in these projects like the, you know, the production designers, like the assistant directors, these sorts of people that just that just get things done and and get the wheels turning where you got these two simpletons who are the ones that ultimately manage to get all of the acclaim and then in turn when it all goes to [ __ ] they get all of the all of the blowback. Um, which you know, they deserve the blowback, right? Like even in season five, all of the all of the other people are doing their job and even even though there's criticisms of the visual effects, we we all know what's up, right? The reason why that happens is because way too much work to be done, not enough time or money to do it. So, it's not like their fault. Um, you know, but but the people that are at the top, right, the guys making the big bucks, um, the guys that get all of the acclaim for being the amazing or reveal themselves to be a different kind of or or or a different different kind of thing, you know, not very good, very bad at their jobs. And uh, and yeah, and and now now everybody's like, "Oh, wait, those Duffer brothers, they're kind of hacks, right?" It's like, "Yeah, they sure are. And they're not fun hacks like Shyamalan, you know. >> Yeah, [laughter] >> he's very fun. >> They're the loser hacks of the of the 21st century, you know, of well, but beyond the, you know, the the the the era of the 2010s onward, you know, like you it's the sort of JJ Abrams kind of hack, which is less fun and more depressing. Um. Oh, sorry. I got a bit lost there. Jam. Jam. Man of Fortune. Yes. >> This better be a long episode. You made me sit through four seasons to catch up. It sucked. And I want my time back. Well, we got four episodes of EAB out of it, I think. So, there you go. Uh, what if I don't like Kate Bush? Does that mean I'll die? Well, you got to find your own music to get you out of there. Okay. >> At least until that isn't how it works anymore, >> right? That was our criticism and then they eventually had the realization which kind of just undo a lot of what [ __ ] they put in place already. It's all very confusing. Uh Kate Bush did 911. I didn't know that. That's crazy. >> Uh platoon would cheat on Ted for Billy confirmed. Um, listen, Ted is Ted is the like the pinnacle of man, so it would be a really tough decision, but I think I could be persuaded maybe to cheat on him with Billy. Maybe. >> I wouldn't blame you for that. I don't think Ted would blame you for that. I think he'd be like, >> "No, Ted might join in." [laughter] >> Ah, that's why Metal isn't here. It's pre-recorded. Plot holes sealed. World makes sense. Time for Chinese and dinosaurs. I rags. Yeah. All right. Fair. One Division handled it slightly better. Well, that's not a good position to be in, is it? What was Vecna's master plan for Bob and Bob again? So Bob was just Was Bob an accident? >> No, well, so Bob dies because at the time the rules are different. Um, that's the only explanation. There is they they tries to pretend that yeah he was behind everything from the beginning but there is no way you can square that with the fact that that Barb in particular dies. She dies cuz she cuts her finger and that that time the demogorgan is just like a shark monster and it it follows blood and it kills people. >> It's not until later they decide that it's actually part of a mind controlled they just intelligence that actually obeys people's orders and does everything for a reason. But once you introduce that, you kind of [ __ ] with Bob. >> The plates weren't even bolted down. They were just thrown over the top of tears in reality. >> Yeah, it's [ __ ] stupid. >> I still remember seeing that for the first time. The the end of season 4, you know, it has that that long sort of they're standing on the field and the camera pans around and you see Hawkins, which is looking like hell is erupting onto Earth and everyone thinks, "Oh [ __ ] season 5 is going to be amazing." And then the first scene of season 5. So now we just covered it up. Put some plates down. So all those those hell rifts you could just paper over the cracks apparently. Oh, it's so lame. >> Platoon fringy. You should play S. Platoon and Fringy. What's S rags? Sod's nuts for real. Platoon needs to play S. This person very much wants you to play that. >> It will happen. >> Lockables greater than Stranger Things. Agreed. Uh, these people do not represent all of Gen Z. >> Sure. I guess no individual represents the whole generation. >> What the who? >> The Stranger Things people, I guess. I don't know. >> They barely represent people, so don't worry about it. [laughter] >> Yeah, but all those characters, they're not they are they are Gen X >> the uh at least in the in the timeline show. And >> you could take it from the EO. You could take it from Gen Z writers doing >> but they're not but the Duffer brothers. They're Gen X too, aren't they? >> That's true. >> Yep. And so was everybody else in the writer room. >> But then I guess the other angle is Duffer brothers trying to appeal to Gen Z or something like that. >> Oh, no, no, no. The Duffer brothers are millennials. Uh, never mind. >> Oh, right. No. Yeah, cuz Gen X What was the >> Gen X Gen X is 19 1980 to 1996 is millennials. So, >> why am who am I thinking of that we were like cuz a bunch of people said it was a millennial project and it was like unfortunately it's a Gen X one. What was that? >> I I remember that I mentioned it with Darevil because the reminder that has >> the last the last 10 to 15 years or certainly the last 10 of the destruction of IPs that's been Gen X not not and and some boomers not millennials. Millennials aren't weren't old enough yet to be in charge. um they're still kind of not like it's it's it's kind of this funny thing that Gen X has essentially gotten away with. They they've benefited from their reputation as a sort of inconsequential generation, but it's like no no no there's no there's no escape for you. All generations have have their share of the blame for uh for the world that we live in today. And Gen X is a big part at least Gen X creators are a big part of the destru you know JJ Abrams is Gen X. A lot of the guys who've done a lot of these Marvel projects are Gen X. They're not millennials. Most of them are in their 50s. Um, a variety of these projects. It's Gen X's that >> then you get into like, you know, the Kennedys and Bob Iggers when it's like, aren't they truly responsible for a lot of this? >> Well, that's boomers then, you know, at that point. Then we're talking about boomers and it's like, yeah, see, look, all right, millennials have their fair share of cringe contributions, but a lot of Neil Duckman, he's Gen X. He's not a millennial. >> But what I keep trying to push is that every generation is [ __ ] [laughter] >> No, that's why I'm just saying that if we're going to play the game of generational blame. Um, let's be real. Millennials aren't old enough to be majorly responsible for a lot of the the things that are that the way that the world looks like now. Uh, certainly when we're talking about art. But, you know, the influences there for sure. We're all We're all a bit cringe. >> Yay. The Great Unifier. Yeah. >> Not to get too existential, but Duma's big meltdown being two years ago means he's been playing video games for 32 years. Coming up on coming up on 33. Damn. Yeah. >> I guess we have to update that meme. Uh, >> see, that's a millennial take. >> 32 years. That's firmly millennial, >> right? >> Uh, is this better or worse than James Gun Superman? Oo, >> that's tricky. Oh, Stranger Things season 5. Yeah, honestly that's a tough one. I uh it's worth reminding people like Superman is at best it's a two and you can make the case for it being a one. >> It's an abomination. >> A pocket a pocket universe. [laughter] Like >> I know we mentioned this on our Supergirl stream, but uh the [ __ ] rewatch of Superman, I couldn't believe the exposition cuz basically I was re-watching it with the sole intention of grabbing all of the world building in my head cuz I, you know, I I remember it, but I also like need a refresh on some of it. And so I'm looking out for like information to keep me sort of settled on that sort of stuff. And man, just the amount of lines that like >> it's almost like no Superman's every move he does. He's been studying him for years. He's created over 10,000 fight combinations for this battle. >> Well, uh, when he when he crashes and that guy is like, "Oh my god, Superman, remember me? I'm your friend. I gave you food once. I'm your friend, Superman." It's like, "What the >> engineer? I've sacrificed my own humanity to get help get rid of it." >> Like, man, it's kind of weird that the engineer does that flip and then reverse when she could have just turned around to fight those Superman robots. And I mean, I just love that it's a movie where Superman doesn't change. He does not change. He is a static character when the film believes that he goes on an arc. Hey man, everything I thought was a lie. It's not going to stop me from just literally being the exact same person though and still doing good things only to later realize that that's what I the decision I need to make is if I haven't always been making it throughout the whole movie. >> And let's be clear, it makes no [ __ ] sense. He thought it was a lie. as in like he he makes no sense he drew everything about his meaning in life >> from the video clip >> then the parents who actually raised him for 30 30 years >> not to reopen it all but like oh my god the other Superman movies understood the dichotomy so much better than this one did >> yep and and then and then yeah pocket universe that's crazy as well as the fact that the film says the solution to foreign conflicts is for an American private military company to unilaterally intervene in those conflicts and assassinate the leaders of uh of countries. That is the that is the film's purported solution to like conflict in the modern day. >> Well, I think as with something like a Predator Badlands or um even Thunderbolts and stuff like that, it's like it's just going to become more and more insane to remember just how insanely [ __ ] hyped the movie was. It reminds me of First Light actually where conventional criticism just gets battered away with the most bizarre [ __ ] arguments because it's decided that this is protected like this particular project. >> Yeah. Like it was really it was really as as much as and of course what complicated it is that people felt that it was a fight against you know the criticism was from the Snider Bros who themselves are like [ __ ] [ __ ] as well in terms of you know the movies they like and the arguments that they make in favor of those movies and against the other ones. But like, no man, it's it's really simple. James Gun is just not a very good storyteller. He's kind of terrible at it. Um, whatever he hasn't either, but it's why it's you'll occasionally come across a tweet which will like it'll begin with something fairly sane and sensible like James Gunn is a useless [ __ ] hack. And you think, yes, I agree with this statement. But then like you read the next line, it's like, we used to have an attempt to make a serious intelligent adult superhero genre with Zack Snider. Oh, you you were so close. But actually, you're just as [ __ ] in the other direction. [ __ ] sake. >> No, you you need to you need to come to the light. And the light is um just end it. Like don't don't bother trying to make like DC movies. Um don't do it. It's uh it it is a well, I'd say superhero movies in general at this point. Just give up. Like just don't do it. Put the resources into I don't know just original science fiction movies because hey, you may get [ __ ] like the creator that was terrible, but maybe you can get something good out of it. whereas there's like a chronic inability to make superhero movies good consistently um regardless of the interpretation. And you know, when the DCU inevitably comes to an end and they try again, it'll probably go pretty badly as well. Um you know, it's uh much like how whatever direction the MCU decides to go in in the in the effort to fix their problems, it won't and it will still be bad. Uh it's over. There will be no more good superhero movies with any reliability. Not that there ever necessarily was an era where they were reliably good. >> Yeah. Reliable. >> At least reliably watchable. You know, there there was a time when that was the case. At least they were reliably entertaining to some extent. >> The question though, I think Superman is probably worse than season 5 of Stranger Things because Superman is supposed to begin everything >> and Stranger Things 5 is ending things. So like nothing else hinges on it. It's uh it's kind of contained from this point. Um and if you've been paying attention then you weren't surprised by how bad it was. Whereas Superman is like this is the plank on which the entire universe has to be built and it's awful. >> Yeah. And even in the first the opening frames of the movie with the text on screen. It's like oh [ __ ] we're already in trouble. >> Uh hey rags as you are a doggo. I wanted to let you know I recently found and adopted a papa I found in the New Mexican desert. Just wanted to share. Oh, >> you Oh, gee. You found him in the desert. >> Well, guess at least he's comfy with air conditioning and stuff now, so that's good. >> Yeah. Talk about frustrating. The longer the series went on, the more frustrated I got with it. The worst example has to be season 4 where the military just starts killing government agents and other soldiers. >> That was confusing because it was [clears throat] like a civil war in the government, right? >> It was. But I mean, at the time it was, well, I assume this is going to be a large part of the subject of season 5, so like it doesn't yet it doesn't make sense yet, but it might make sense. No, it's never going to make sense. In fact, they pretend that that just didn't happen in season 5. But I mean, cuz all they're doing, and they they always do this with every season if you pay attention, they just find like isolated tropes and throw them in. They don't actually try to make them make sense within the context of their own world. But government conspiracies and like deep state civil wars is an 80s trope that they hadn't used yet. So they thought, "Fuck it, we'll throw that in." And it's an interesting trope, but like tropes on their own don't work. You have to like tropes have to be part of a story, which people seem to forget. >> Yes. Um, back to back, I got Nick can fix her, Nick can't fix her, Nick might be able to fix her. No, Nick cannot fix her. It's a lost cause. >> I don't know. Dancy >> maybe. Was was Nick favorable with Nancy? I don't know. >> I don't remember. >> Uh, EAP the goats. He's $5, my man. Thank you very much. Did he say they are finishing tomorrow? Uh, I can't I can't say what I would have said because we also recorded two in one, I think, at one point cuz we we went 11 hours nearly and then we did an hour after that because Kathn Kennedy officially had been ousted from Lucasfilm. >> Good. >> That was the [clears throat] Didn't we round that off? It was the documentary and KK on the same day. What an exciting time that was. >> We had a deal, Synic. >> Well, this is Welcome to 2020. >> We had a deal. That's from >> ESO. That's cuz >> Oh, is it? >> Oh, me. Well, it might be, but we've been trying to get movies in to watch Game of Thrones and he promised that he would and he still hasn't done it. And then we >> Seven Kingdoms. He hasn't done that either. Ah. Ooh. >> I think it was uh it was when it was when K was trying to get Kyle to suck his balls. Like you signed an agreement, Cal. >> Well, Night of the Seven Kingdoms. There is no excuse cuz that's about the size of a a longish movie. So, you should totally go for it. >> And my god, it's so good. Welcome to 2020 episode 6. I I get that. I like that. That's good. Late and rags. Who is gay? Are you saying Rags is gay or you asking who gay? Who gay is? Cuz we'll have to figure it out. That could be a good mystery. Who's the gay? Make a board game out of it. Uh, if only I could make a deal with God and I'd get him to write a better season. Be writing up that show. Oh, this is this is the lyrics for um Burning Up that hill. >> Up that hill. >> Be writing up that show. Writing up that series. Yeah. Well, you know. Yay. finishing up the Steve appreciation show. Yeah. Yeah. Most scenes he's pretty awesome, honestly. Just uh that's how it goes for him. Uh criticism of the day. Your thumbnail looks like a nidrotic thumbnail. Um I'm quite proud of the thumbnail progression on our Stranger Things episodes. I thought they were hilarious. >> I can't remember. I need to remind myself. >> The increasingly filled lips. >> Look at the last one. The last one's amazing. >> But um >> it's funny. I I I I just I've appreciated getting compared to Perry Chan. He's like an amazing Photoshop basher artist person. Meanwhile, me I just try my best with the limited skill set I have. Okay. [laughter] Um I'm just 10. Anywhere else I'd be a 10. Oh, I get it. 10. Good old Bobby. When we get a sequel to Bobby? >> I don't know. Uh that's inevitable, right? >> Nia, right? >> Well, probably. But uh what's the person who did that doing Nania, right? They're making Nania with Netflix. >> A Gwig. >> Yeah. Yeah. Greta Gerwig. So that's what you can expect next, the Nania adaptation from her >> cuz she doesn't want to do a Barbie sequel, right? So assuming they move on without her. >> I mean, probably. I mean, yeah. I I mean, they they could and I imagine that they'd still make a lot of money. The IT miniseries with Tim Curry is far better than anything the creators of Stranger Things have have and will produce in their lifetime. Everything Stranger Things references is better than Stranger Things. I don't think anyone disagrees with that. Uh I heard in the real season 5 Will casts a warning fireball in a school zone. Oh no, don't do that. That's just like Boogie. I'm thinking about watching Game of Thrones, though I've heard it falls off at some point. When should I stop? The thing is like how how it's just, you know, there's a gradient. There's good scenes in seasons five, six, seven. There may even be a good scene in season 8. I'd have to rewatch it to be clear, and it would be in the first two episodes if it was anywhere. But like, you get less and less the time as the time goes on. And so it's like, so where should I stop? was like, well, the line I drew as a definitive sort of transition from episode to episode of where things go wrong is from the best episode of the series, which is season 4, episode 9, to the worst of that series so far, season 4, episode 10. Does that mean you should stop there? Well, you know, it's not as good TV going forward, but you'll still be quite engaged and entertained more than likely. And I think unfortunately with how this works, and it would have happened to all of us, you don't necessarily realize in real time where you've lost your investment, it'll happen afterward. >> So, you kind of just >> That's right. Actually, it'll you'll never lose your investment like actually at the exact moment that it becomes not worth watching anymore. You know, it's uh it takes a while, right, for the for the feelings to set in. If you're in sync with the show and you're really enjoying it, when uh when it starts to go bad at the beginning, you'll sort of have a sort of h um yeah uh you know that. And then with the second one, you'll be like uh and then with the third episode, you'll be like, "Oh, that's what happened with Arcane." >> Yeah. >> Season two. I remember after that first episode, it was very much um that was the that was the vibe. And then by the end I was like, "Oh god, >> what a >> what a rough atmosphere in that call with all of us after we finished the first act." Just >> Yeah. Cuz [laughter] I remember the cope. I remember the coping after that first episode, but there wasn't much to be said for it. [laughter] >> Like, well, I like this this this, but I really don't like this this this. >> I assume we're going in this direction, you know? >> Yeah. But uh yeah, the the the closeup when uh when Caitlin says like those animals, it's like that's a bit that's a bit that's a bit cringe, guys. [laughter] That's I don't expect I expect better from you. Okay. >> Uh nearly finished 179 through 181 are relevant. Denims and Hassan [ __ ] have some money in recognition of all the hard work and psychological damage. It did take a while to uh get all of that together, but what an arc. The reactor arc, which uh you know, the story continues, I guess, on the front of copyrights and lawsuits and Twitch being [ __ ] you know, keeps going. Real ones know that the true actual legit finale was hidden and will be released any day now. Just like you Dumbos will play DDLC any day now, right? Uh conformity fap. Yes. You guys just don't understand. Will saying I don't like girls is a colloquialism. Well, Google it then. You don't know what a [ __ ] colloquialism is. >> Scrutiny. [laughter] >> That's one of the best boogie moments because of the the reality of not knowing he's being recorded. >> Realize. Yeah. That's I think that's what makes it such a unique, powerful, and damaging >> uh boogie clip. This is how we treat somebody when he isn't being watched. Cuz even even even the things that he does that you know are very annoying that you see like on live streams or whatever. It's like yeah but he's being watched which is always complicates things compared to just the hard cuts of him screaming you liar over and over and over again. >> You're a liar. Oh, it was great. bring back those those days which from what I understand the log cow [ __ ] really is crashing like uh their numbers and like every episode apparently is just a panic of trying to figure out what the show's even about which they cycle through Discord mods constantly because they all get stressed from the job. >> This is necessary. Um the best Boogie is financially stressed Boogie. It's it's Boogie on the edge. It's Boogie on the precipice of financial ruin. [laughter] uh when he's in a position where he isn't in financial ruin, he becomes less interested. >> The [ __ ] video where he was sitting outside his is his gone or whatever being like, I'm going to need some donations. I'm going to need some [laughter] >> Yeah, that's his best the documentary, you know, it's it's uh that's what makes him it's when he's under pressure. And the best part is he's probably so irresponsible that even with whatever money he's gotten from uh from that that show, he's probably still like not in a good position financially. something people don't realize is some of the richest YouTubers, quote unquote, from like apparent view counts, a lot of them are in financial stress, in >> insane debt. Because again, it's not about how much you earn, it's how much you spend. >> You know, if there's a guy who makes $50,000 a year and he only spends $30,000 a year, that dude is richer than the guy who makes $200,000 a year and spends $300,000 a year. You know, assuming that he isn't spending, I don't know, a significant amount of that money investing in stocks or something. But if he's just buying stupid [ __ ] and Boogie is, you know, Boogie is the kind I mean, he he went we went and tried to buy that [ __ ] Tesla. Um, dude, the amount of people who blow their lives up from like buying cars is actually like insane. You know, people people taking out these crazy loans with like barely any deposit with insane interest rates and massive like terms for the for the loan and then getting themselves into like negative equity where like they're cut because cars are heavily depreciating at and buying stupid cars as well. That's the that's the worst part. Not buying like a Toyota Corolla or something, but buying like some stupid like truck, some dumb like like a Cadillac or something and then and then blowing their lives up and it's like, "Yep, that's boogie. is that kind of person. So, even with all the money he's made, I'm sure that he hasn't paid off his debts. >> There is unfortunately not a great aspect of education, as silly as it sounds, on this front. So, a lot of people when they get money, when they haven't had money, start spending it like crazy cuz they think it keeps coming in >> like you on travel too, right? It'll be like, "Yeah, I'll spend this year, this year, this year, this year." It's like, "You're running out." It's like, "Wait, what?" >> It's like, "Yeah, no, you're running out of money." You know, if you if you had all that money and you were still driving around your little shitbox car, your shitbox reliable econo box car, you know, and you weren't going out to eat at fancy restaurants all the time, then you would be doing well. like it and if you had invested it or you know paid off debts and stuff but instead if you're just buying a lot of expense and especially in Boogie's case buying these worthless collector's items as well to litter his house like an o just an ode to being a capitalist pig [laughter] you know it's just his entire existence >> that's the one thing that's coming that's very funny is him smashing all of his like trinkets and trophies of his past life >> in order to make more money and then just wasting that And then wasting. Yeah. Like you destroy your cuz like that Game Awards thing. I know we were talking just before about how you know whatever, but like that's priceless and he destroyed it. >> Yeah, it is insane uh that he's done that with so much of his [ __ ] >> But you know, whatever, >> you know, the the play button stuff like that. It's like, yeah, this is irreplaceable. Um these sort of things. Well, so there was um they they had so like to to illustrate how desperate they get, they would do something like, you know, a thousand members and I will go outside and pour every condiment in my fridge on me and then roll around in pig [ __ ] or something until and you're just like, "Wow." Okay, but like a thousand members if they hit that is like that is a [ __ ] ton of money. But nowadays, it's like 20 members and we'll have this Discord mod tattoo boogie's name on his forehead with his own like makeshift tattoo parlor in his [ __ ] bedroom. And then like nobody donates anything and they'll just be like, "Okay, do it anyway." Like that's where the show is now. >> Yeah. like not much money in exchange for humiliating damaging sort [clears throat] of rituals which um but yeah like >> I mean to me the best ending is that Boogie is forced to go back to his YouTube channel and try to cuz the best part about that will be that he'll have to try his strategy will be to try and present himself as a good person again. Like that's like sort of an inescapable aspect of him trying to have a career on his own channel. Try Could you imagine him want coming in to talk about Grand Theft Auto 6? how embarrassing that would be. Like him trying to offer any insight into that game, >> you know, just to try and make some money >> when you would talk about drama issues with YouTubers or video games and movies in general. Like his his thing of that's that's my bread and butter is like you never had anything to say about these things. >> No. And then the other thing as well would be pretending that he's going on a character arc like when he when he pretended after the second room trip that he had deep insights and he had to offer ap like he had an ego death you know or like his his first like oh have you heard of Marcus Aurelius like it's just I need more of that. I need him pretending to have philosophical insights. >> It's such good content. >> So uh yeah we'll see how things go. Pro tip to cleanse yourself after this atrocity. watch an insane and great sci-fi show, Pluribabus. Vince Gilligan does not miss. >> I like I like Pluribabus, but I would call it a great show. >> No. >> And we don't know if he's missed or not, cuz season 2 is about 8 years away. >> Not just that, but season one is low risk in terms of the story it tells. It's hard to make that completely [ __ ] if you know what I mean. There's not a huge amount of variables right now. Uh, but we'll go we'll see how it goes forward. I I have a lot of faith in Vince Gilligan as a storyteller, so it'll be cool to see what he does with it. Um, it's just rock paper scissors. Well, I do like rock paper scissors. Next, to fully go through the Lord of Ring Gollum Gauntlet can be as follows. Theo Critical Drinker, Nick Dioro, Nutser, Forier, and Joe Danger. [snorts] Well, you get in Nick for sure. I don't think Theo's even streamed a game yet, so it's doubtful he would make Gollum his first one. That would that would almost I think he'd consider that antithetical to his existence. Critical drinker I think we can make happen. Uh Portier that would be fun. We can get him to do it. And that's a uh yes I think we could maybe have that happen too. We're going to have to see about all this. It's it's potential there. It's potential. People been comparing season 5 to the end of Game of Thrones. I see it more like the end of Sherlock. So much cope. So much. Yeah. No, I I agree. I think it's more applicable to the end of Sherlock than Game of Thrones. Um, but I mean that's old. I can't believe I'm saying this. That's old enough now that people don't even remember it happening. Like the the secret episode for Sherlock that was going to fix everything. I got through Joseph's big pissbaby fit. What is he actually jabbering on about? I respect the desire to pay more for something you value and adore, but no reason to shame people over a bargain. So, what he he felt that it was going to make it so that when someone is like, I've got to buy a game, I'll he he got nothing about this made any [ __ ] sense. It was like, I'll I'll always opt for um Silk Song because it's so much cheaper and it'll like punish games that need to be at prices that they are to, you know, blow stay afloat. But at the same time, it's like it's a one-time purchase. And even if it set expectations on what things should be priced at, that's still up for everyone to decide as it currently is with the whole market. There's a lot of games that I think everyone would agree seem like they should cost less than they do or more than they do. Um I think it's rarer for coming across games that you're like, "Oh, wow. This should probably be more expensive." But I've played plenty of indie games that I was like, "Holy [ __ ] this is cheap considering how much fun I got out of it." Um but I mean that's how you're competitive, right? You're like, "Hey, check out my thing." And then if enough people buy it and I make a sequel, maybe I could charge a bit more um or not, depending on whatever they want to do. But for example, First Lights, do you think that game is worth its price? >> They should be paying us. [laughter] >> They should be, but they won't. >> Uh all he did was prove he absolutely is a large gay. He sounded like he was on the verge of tears while he was Alana Pierce Max. What a massive. I don't disagree. And uh yeah, a lot of piercing is a thing for people when they drift off into making those kind of wacky gaming arguments. [laughter] Uh this whole show feels like bad fanfic of itself. Nancy is the annoying self-insert. She has the jock and soulful art student fighting over her. She's super cool and knows all the guns. I'm surprised she didn't get powers by the end of the show. She would have get a season six and seven. She would have had powers probably. >> Yeah, she would have gotten powers from the upside down. Yeah. Like Oh, you know Oh. Repeated exposure to the upside down gives you powers. Take the Take this Pizza Hut. Did they have Pizza Hut in the 80s? Take this Pizza Hut box. [laughter] >> Open it up. I I'm not even going to bother. >> Dude, shooting that thing that blasted him like the radiation. It hit you in a particular way. Like [clears throat] Jonathan didn't get powers though. It's like Yeah. Well, that's he's he didn't he didn't he he didn't shoot it like >> What about Jonathan? No, no, no, no, no, no. >> [laughter] >> Maybe he'd be dead by then. Uh, so you're saying there's a [ __ ] hammer and it slams the back of a metal spike causing an explosion inside the gun which then blasts the spike into the aliens. I guess that's a description of a of a gun. Yeah. >> Sorry to have further reminded us all of the big brain take of Mr. Smer is not a horror game, but I genuinely hate it and I want the word spread. It was a baffling thing he was trying to set up as like how to frame genre. It it it depends on what feeling it gives you. As though that would just cancel out every [ __ ] genre ever as a description of of anything like you know a drama. It's like did I feel anything dramatic? Was I engaged on that level? Like no cuz it was bad. It's like so it's not a drama then. Like no it is. It's just bad. >> Like it it literally is. The idea that a genre is defined by whether or not it succeeded in generating that effect in you is absurd. Which is funny because there are horrors and I'm sure you agree for that aren't necessarily scaring you but you consider a good horror. >> Yep. Of course. >> And so could be like that's not possible. I was like yeah it is. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Of course. There's all that that covers just all genres and and you know it gets weird too because it's like what makes something sci-fi you know the feeling of sci-fi in this case be like well >> yeah it's like that doesn't really work the feeling of it actually being epic >> what makes it a is it not a comedy because you didn't laugh even if it's clearly trying to make you laugh >> makes no sense >> I don't know I guess start talking about because there's a few of these. Uh, Joseph is a hack and should be ashamed eternally for a shitty opinion along with being such a weasly little crybully when called out. Listen, if his first interaction with me was him calling him a massive he got he got a bad impression, but at the same time, like get over it, I guess, is how I've always felt since then. Now, >> didn't get in the way. >> I thought it was funny. Loads of people did, but I think he just wanted to opt for you're a homophobe. It's like, okay, fine, whatever. But what if the wizard told him like, "Yeah, but he's not though." Really and truly, >> he when he called you a massive, he thought it was funny. Okay. Then he's like, "That's that's ridiculous. No one's ever done that." >> Oh, so you think Trey Park are homophobes? And he's like, "What?" Like, well, >> interesting. >> They've said it a lot as part of their art. It's like, well, it's okay if you say it as part of art. It's like, what does that mean? I also called him a lamp and I didn't get in trouble for that. Even though that's absurd, >> even though that's, you know, that's I mean, you're saying he's not even human. You're dehumanizing. >> Yeah, true. >> Uh, wow. Jig, you're a super chat a lot today. I know, right? Anyway, Warhammer model of whenever. Wait, I will put that with the the uh we'll do all of Warhammer at once. Presumably, we got a lot of Lego pieces as well, and we're collecting extinct animals. and Pokemon and uh well, it's it's going to be a big old ride when we get there. Anyway, [ __ ] Stranger Things. I didn't watch it. Probably won't. Netflix has to do something to the Duffers for turning their Iron Man of Netflix originals into a hollow, useless grave. Technically, their Iron Man for originals would be House of Cards, but uh Stranger Things is like the Avengers, I guess, if I'm tracking all of their originals cuz it's an early one, but it's not the earliest that got like a lot of acclaim. Um, but you know, uh, what's interesting about Stranger Things is I I don't I'm not really against saying you can watch season one and stop is a complete story with a little hook at the end for what maybe, you know, you can leave it like that. Um, cuz I like season one. Tired of characters being regularly assassinated? Writers not respecting your intelligence? Want a story with actual intrigue? Watch the amazing Digital Circus. also high ranks. Oh well, yet another recommendation. Absolute cinema. They must be referring to Amazing Digital Circus. It can't be Stranger Things. Re-watching and listening from episode one. Love this show. The guests and the tisms. And thank you for recovering Andor. Love that show. I love it too. Andor's beautiful. >> Sure is. >> Maybe he's single because he opens with I am Steve. I think the most ridiculous part of Stranger Things is that Steve is single. >> That's crazy. >> The biggest plot. >> Well, he's not by the end though, right? Cuz he has he has a girlfriend at the end, I think, in the final episode. >> Yeah, he has a girlfriend. I remember cuz it's kind of a bitter irony cuz N when they're all on the roof and Steve has got like quite a good life set out for him and Nancy has just flunked out of university to do a second internship. But at least she's independent, so good for her. So I think you may have just lost Stranger Things. >> You have lost the Stranger Things. >> Like, no. >> Duffer. Noun. An incompetent or stupid person. Duff of very poor quality. Duff man is thrusting in the direction of the problem. I see. Damn duffers. Um, Mr. Oreo saved EAP. Well, um I mean, you know, he's uh he's he he some would say that we brought him into hell covering all of Stranger Things that way, but you know what? He was enthusiastic about it as as these super chats saying, Nicholas the goat saves Bap. Huzzah. Oh, was this because he told us how to access the um uh the the the server change? Remember, because we couldn't find the option anymore. Yeah, >> remember they changed it and that upset everything. Yeah, it's terrifying. >> Hello. Was wondering if you guys would ever plan on doing an efap on The Witcher 3, a wonderful game that I feel deserves to be discussed in a similar sense to God of War Ragnarok. I've not played it, I'm afraid. >> No, I haven't played it and I'm not very familiar with The Witcher as a series. So, yeah, it would be >> it's sort of how it goes on EAB. If we need like connective pieces for all of us to be able to sort of throw something on cuz some people were like, "Oh, so coincidentally you all watched like Marvel and Star Wars stuff." And like, yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Yeah. >> But [clears throat] meanwhile, there's loads of stuff we don't watch, like of big IPs that just we just give a miss because none of us really are invested. And thus commences the Oreo's first rodeo in the editing dungeons. I don't know if he's been to the editing dungeons yet, but we've got a space for him. No worries. Smiling friends, let's make a Chris Chan reference. Stranger Things, let's make our whole last season a Chris Chan reference. The Dimensional Merge now streaming on Netflix. Maybe there should be less Chris Chan references and things. Who can say? Uh, they should invent Nick the protein bar to counter Nick the Oreo. They should also invent good writers to counter the Duffer brothers. Yeah, sounds like a plan. I have a 32x9 monitor and when I play Lord of Ring on Steam, it narrows my view instead of widening in it. Widening it. No joke. Gollum looks like he's being crushed. That sounds funny. But uh that's the way to play it, I guess. Why would mind flare ever need a physical body anyway? Both rat flesh form and spiderzilla are way inferior to his invincible particle form, right? >> And he has lieutenants to do his bidding for him. So it's like before Vecner, you could have made the argument, okay, well to accomplish a lot of other stuff, maybe he needs to be physical, but once you've got Vecnner, mind you, even then cuz he takes puppets in season 3. Yeah. No, I think it's just a [ __ ] decision. >> Mhm. Poll. Will we have finished Stranger Things season 5 by Easter? Yes, I think. I'm sure. >> I think so. >> Drinker has a lot to answer for after his Dispatch takes. Not surprised he was that naive about J.J. Abrams and Star Wars. What do you mean answer for? He enjoyed it. It's uh it's just how it goes. [laughter] Every one of us will disagree with every one of us at some point about the nature of the thing. And that's totally chill. The important part is discussing it. Did y'all see the Duffer's response to Conformity Gate? Basically said they'd take the idea and run with it if they ever need money. Pathetic. >> Could you imagine >> if they announced like a lot of fans very aptly pointed out that there's a couple of things left uh unc uncompleted and they were right. And we were always planning to do Stranger Things season. Well, I wonder if legally they'd be allowed to do like season six or if they would just call it someone else. I don't know. I guess we'll find out. >> She's batshit insane. Oh, this would be the conformity gate lady, I think. What's more insane? This lady or her AI back wall? Oh, yeah. She had an AI background because there's a bunch of letters weren't correct. >> You're trying to imagine Will figuring out how to use that when he's shining lights on it. Joyce has to tell it where they will love. I want to check up on her. I want to see if like because a lot of these people, they go all in on these theories and in her case, she passionately believed it. She wasn't just doing it for money. She wasn't drifting. She was just genuinely insane. And what she's saying now, I'm I'm kind of interested to find that out. >> Follow up on she's okay. >> Yeah. She hasn't uploaded since uh when was season episode 9 supposed to come out? She's just disappeared. >> Mhm. >> We fear the worst. Do process. You keep using that word. I don't think you know what it mean or you think it means what you think it means. Reference that I butchered. Uh Pascal's conformity gate. Schroing his season. The 2023 Hollywood strike delayed the production of season 5 of Stranger Things along with all the other film and shows waiting to be filmed. Yeah, some damage was done with that unfortunately. Uh as per usual with any kind of writing strike, it's only a season if you interpret it as a season. Of course, another classic Quinton quote right there. They think the Duffers a Peter Griffin when his family just counted thousands of lottery tickets. Yeah. Well, I'm sure Netflix think the Duffers like really know what they're doing, but you know, they'll find out that isn't the case. Season 5 ending. Drink your Ovaltine. It's the themes. Sure. Hypothetically, could Platoon fix her? H >> uh if we're talking about the crazy woman. No, I think she's beyond help. [laughter] >> Ma'am, this is a Wendy's. Hey, if I worked at Wendy's, that would be very entertaining to hear. Okay. Like, you go ahead. You talk about conformity, gate. Holy [ __ ] Rag. She's using the ancient EAP fly catching technique Jenny used. Oh, now that's a deep cut. Much of her facts are AI generated. She probably had some help from Chad GBT trying to figure all this out. Um, I feel like they know less about D and D after playing Boulders Gate 3 somehow. >> I don't think they knew anything about it. >> No, they said they knew nothing about it. They had to sort of catch up on the fly. >> Yeah, >> that's why they skipped over a bunch of DND bosses to get to Vecnner. >> Yeah. [gasps] And it's just in retrospect, it's just such it's kind of just sad, isn't it? Like you didn't you didn't care about any of it. And and yet all the fans certainly did. I'm more of a nerd than this brick face. Lol. We got some nerd cred wars going on here. We are the bucket masters. He will not divide us. Laugh my ass off of getting some Oh, what? Oh, yeah. She was talking about buckets, right? You fall into one of two buckets as fans. Got bucket milk here. [laughter] Ombberto Eko's novel Folk's Pendulum is a brilliant and hilarious examination of conspiracy theories recommended. I wonder if it'll explain conformity gate. #release the fly. She must be Hassan's halfsister. Maybe. This reminds me of the indoctrination theory that went around after the Mass Effect 3 ending. People couldn't accept boware crap endings. >> God. Yeah. I don't even remember exactly what it was, but I do remember that. Yeah. The indoctrination theory to like the I Dude, I Yeah, I don't remember, but it was it was Yeah, because people couldn't accept that. No, Mass Effect 3's endings are pretty simple. Do you want blue explosion, red explosion, or green explosion? Which one do you want? Those are your three choices. and destroy the mass relays, thereby stranding everybody in whichever star system they're currently in, which means that on Earth, which is currently being destroyed by the Reapers, you've got just an entire fleet of desperate alien races stuck in a uh depleted planet. That's okay cuz your crew landed on some random planet somewhere and they're going to start over or something. Even though there's only like even even though just what does that even mean? They're going to start over on this random planet. Also, you die no matter what. It's like, cool. Nice ending. [sighs and gasps] Oh. Oh, and I remember cuz uh cuz the when they fixed the game, they uh they added in an ending that obviously should have been there, which is, "Dude, [ __ ] your choices. I'm not making any of your choices. Like, I'm not doing this, you know?" And then and then the cycle continues. I remember um I remember Cole Mori Arti like made the argument that it was like it was absurd to demand that they fix the ending because that was like their artistic intent and you have to accept that like this is the ending that they wanted >> and it's not your place to demand that they change it to uh to conform to what you want. >> That seems a bit >> silly. Silly. Yeah, I guess you could apply that to everything. It's always those arguments are always funny when that person is like keep an eye on that person in future. Guarantee you they contradict that 100%. >> Well, just something that's a bit awkward is that you have to accept that um people felt like they had been lied to. They were told that this was a series where all of the choices that they made would amount to something in the end. To be presented with a binary choice that is available to you no matter what choices you make throughout the game is something of a betrayal of that premise. It goes beyond just like, oh well, this is their artistic intent. Get over it. To like, oh, but that's not what they said that their artistic intent was when they sold me those games for 60 bucks. So, at that point, you know, such and and of course, the fact that it's a video game means well, you can change it. You can patch it in in a way that is not really possible for uh movies or books. Like, you can change it to give people more choices. And they did. And they called it the director's cut. So, [laughter] that is the authorative uh the authorative, you know, boware approved ending, which is still not good, but it's better than what the original was. I remember cuz I um I I was playing I played the game for like 12 hours that day. I was so hyped for Mass Effect 3 and I I played it for like 12 hours and by the time that I got to the ending, it was like 1:00 a.m. and [laughter] I just felt empty. I was just like, I don't I don't understand like what what was that? What just happened? What is the fate of the galaxy and my crew? Oh, thanks old random old man talking to that kid talking about like the stories of the shepherd or whatever. It's like this doesn't help. I don't understand what's happened. Why have you done this to me? Why have you betrayed me so >> tragic? Um >> I mean it's still a good game, but you know >> what's the best one? Is it two? Uh, well, I think the thing I've I've not actually played Mass Effect one, and I know that people go to bat for its RPG mechanics as being like the best in that one. >> Mhm. >> Um, it's I mean, it's certainly not three. Uh, but I can't speak for one, so I guess for me it would be two. >> Is there any chance that all of this mania actually memes an episode into existence? It's not that it already exists, but Netflix and the duffers has cynically try to cash in on it like the MorbiiUs re-release. Um maybe, but not for a while. Uh we'll have to see because they're going to experiment with Stranger Things, right, as an IP where it can go, what it can do, >> and if they realize there's nothing and then they're like, "What about a season six? What about a conformity gate season?" >> And uh I can see the Duffers being like, "We'll do it." Um, a common cat parasite toxopplasma gandhi can infect humans and potentially alter personality increasing risk takingaking and neuroticism. >> That's that's cat lady. Let's like that is what is the cat lady, right? Is is that >> Yeah. Well, that's the theory anyway. So that's what it's born from. >> Increased risk takingaking is good, right? >> Uh well, >> yeah, but neuroticism not so much. Yeah, that that that is not so great. >> Uh, we had a good thing, you son of a [ __ ] We were housing cows. >> Farewell and a due to you Singapore ladies. Yeah, we got to Singapore. It's all good. Everything's safe. >> Dude, that we had a good thing you stupid. Every single time I [laughter] We had a good You stupid son of a [ __ ] Start cackling. I am an intelligent person. I watch media literature to the I watch media literate YouTube channels and have deciphered the lottery. You eapons cannot comprehend my 98 IQ level. Whoa, pretty cool. And you're watching us, so that means that we're kind of 98 IQ at least as well. >> Stranger GP things. Oh, I get it. Like chat GPT, but strange. Has this type of cope and denial ever happened with another show? Yes, Sherlock. I remember it well. It was specifically going to be another episode that was going to clear everything up and basically decanonize or recontextualize everything stupid. Unfortunately, >> that's a really funny like thought process, isn't it? You know, like, oh, there's like a secret there's a secret next part where it's all going to make sense. Nah. No. Fans wanted new Game of Thrones ending, but they didn't believe D and D were saving a surprise episode. Yeah, I know. That's why it's a different beast, but at the same time, yes, it's not actually new. Unfortunately, for all I know, Sherlock isn't even This is probably an older example. It's probably happened before. Uh, is there protein in the CGI's urine? Perhaps. Perhaps. Time for bed. See you next week for episodes 6 through 9. Oh, maybe. I don't know how many we actually got through in total of which time, but yes, agreed. Hey, military, fire works. Protect the kids. Credits. Fire does work really well, but you wouldn't know it when the military get attacked part of the episodes where they just fail miserably. >> There's precisely one moment when they remember that fire works. But then Vagnner comes through and for reasons, fire doesn't work on Vagnner, even though he's connected to the hive mind. And the hive mind shares pain. So, he should be feeling it. Never the [ __ ] mind. It's all done. It makes no sense, but yes, they should have remembered the fire was a thing. >> You're asking a lot. Steve's car was the saddest casualty of the season. No. To shreds, you say? And how is his wife? To shreds, you say? >> The [laughter] great be. Hey, rags, which is the better Scooby-Doo movie, a witch's ghost or zombie island? The correct answer is always going to be Zombie Island. Dude, that [ __ ] movie is amazing. Okay. as well as the theme. But then again, you might have a different answer. Fringy, best Mass Effect character. And why is it Liara? >> Oh, I think it's Garas. Um, but Liara is really cool. But yeah, Garus is my favorite. Um, and you can make the case for Mortyn. He was he was awesome, especially with his ending. Well, especially with the the only the only ending I accept for that character. You know what I'm talking You know what I'm talking about. [laughter] Um, no. It's it's it's Garus. It's just he is um, dude, it's just it's he's just so cool. [laughter] He's so cool. Oh, I missed him. I passed back popped back in real quick to say Fanganger is watching Nikki's recent quartering video. Meanwhile, he was here earlier. Small world. Yeah. >> Ah, >> not a barn. It's a cow house. It is indeed. a shilling for the Stranger Things conformer meter. If platoon doesn't address him as delightful Derek from this point on now that he's on the team, it's officially him fat shaming a child. >> He's fat Derek. That's his name. >> Yeah, >> Derek of House Fat. >> He earned that name through a lot of work. Are we sure the Duffers are even real? Has anyone met them? U apparently they they are real. They're in the behind the scenes. Unfortunately, they went where missing socks go. My god, a whole other dimension. Uh, he was inside the demogorgan. I don't think fat Derek would get inside the demogorgan. I don't think so. >> Secret season 5 is Ted Wheeler and Derek's family. That would be nice. >> Just that's what a secret season is. is just actually going through each of these scenes and being like, "So, these people didn't die because this this this like the pregnant ladies and stuff just it's just the duffers sit on chairs being like, it actually does make sense if you think about it for these reasons." Uh, why did the vacuum stop after the end of the scene where the car was sucked into space? Why didn't the whole upside down disappear immediately? >> Because it did. Oh, >> it got blocked. Something clogged it. We just didn't see. >> Not sure. >> Makes sense. Makes sense. Uh why was the wall made of flesh specifically? >> Cuz it looks cool. >> It looks cool. That's why there >> that's their reasoning. >> You can even this is it part of the documentary, but they're trying to explain it to the actors and uh [laughter] you can hear in their tone of voice and their facial expressions they're not buying it >> when the ders are like saying and so yeah. So, like the um you know, our dimension is is and the upside down is connected to the abyss via the uh the flesh walls and everyone kind of looks at him like he's mad. He says it'll make more sense when we've written the script. H no it won't. >> Uh they think the wall of a wormhole is a tangible thing and not warped time and space. It is in this continuity. So, [ __ ] you. How does the mind flare now have a body and why was it dead? Maybe it died with the audience's goodwill and trust. What the what can you even say about the mind flare at this point? >> But like it being dead made a degree of sense because you could have hypothesized like drawing from the information you know in season 4. Maybe Vegner kind of, you know, met it, got his powers from it, and then overtook it and killed it and is now using its body as some for some reason. That would have made probably more sense than no, it's actually not dead. It just sleeps like that and then it's going to wake up and be a giant spider monster and it's going to die really easily. >> Cocaine would also activate it presumably. Yeah, maybe. Lightly walking up that hill. Vecar would show the duffers the word continuity. I think that would that would truly terrify them. Yeah, that's good. That makes sense. Uh, as we all know, Rags fails to be an apex homosexual. So, platoon, what superpowers did your sexual preferences give you? >> Um, it sort of depends on the weather. >> Ah, >> cuz at the moment I've got none, but you know, when it's when it's not 39,000°, then I have some, but I can't remember what they are cuz it's too hot. >> Yeah, temperature does [ __ ] with memory. It's It's a thing. It's a known thing. My grandfather died last Christmas. Will he return in Avengers Doomsday? Well, I'm sorry to hear that. And if anyone's returning in that movie, I think you just don't want anyone returning, honestly. I don't think it's going to be well handled. Uh whether fictional or other references at this point, I just want Vader to show up. I think that's the the step of combining Marvel and Star Wars. I just want him to do it. Give up already and do it. Uh cheers for me getting through half of a 12-hour shift. I never got past the first few episodes of 50 season 1. I'm sorry, but I love listening to y'all complain about it. Well, had some praise for season one as well, but you know, yeah, that's kind of how it went. Darn. Another pre-recorded EAP. Sigh. Maybe next week I'll catch them live. Hi, Rags. Ah, we were live the whole time and they didn't even know. Vecna is like Papa and Mhler is like Papa. Oh, no. Friends don't lie. We made a deal, Sidic. I think this is because I said like we were hoping to get all of season 5 wrapped in that stream, but we we couldn't. Obama means family and family means I don't like girls. Quite a quote. >> We're find the interview with Duffers cry about mean. Cry about mean. >> Oh, what? Where they cried about like the people were being mean to them like that they they couldn't handle how much people were criticizing the show or something. >> Is that a thing? Why am I blanking on that? remember. I mean, they talked about >> like how they shouldn't have done all the interviews that they did. >> Oh, yes. That's that's what I was thinking about. Yeah, >> cuz their equivalent of of Dan and Dave's I forgot was one of the dubbers says, I was losing my mind. I had the flu. It's like, no, you just didn't know what your own story was, mate. That's that's the problem. >> Yeah, we got the reasoning. We got loads of reasoning for why they did everything. >> Got scrutinized heavily. It's like, yeah, guys, I wonder why that is. We got We got all of it. We heard it all in real time. There's no escape. I believe she's out when I see her walking out. Oh, we talking about 11 maybe. I think uh she's gone at last. We trade one villain for another. My god, Mhler is changing the formula. We're going back to formula. >> We trade one villain for another. That's a That's a Halo 3 reference. Whoa. Yeah, good stuff. >> Oh, sweet crispy demogorgans. Oh, wait. Damn. Well, I haven't watched any Stranger Things. Looks like I made a great choice. Just like with Game of Thrones. Anyw who wanted to know favorite Mega Bonk character to play. Oh, it's been a while since I've actually played Mega Bonk now, but I very much did enjoy it. I kind of like a whole bunch of them. Um, one of my favorites was the I forget the name of him, but the guy who just flexes and has the aura around him. He's kind of the equivalent of the garlic man from uh Vampire Survivors for me. But uh to an extent it's fun to play them all in terms of leaning into the benefits. But yeah, uh I kind of liked him and I like the vampire dude. Um so you know those be the the preferences I think from memory anyway. ISO not here. Fellow film critic Mr. Oreo. Yes. Well known wellrespected film critic. If you like Goth Morangi's Dark Place, watch Danger Five. Fair enough. Say hi to Ragu. We'll do the Oreo is on four times in a row. I think I know what that means. It was all Stranger Things. [laughter] He was on for the boys stuff, too. I'm afraid that's just uh just how it goes. Mhler, please use your T Magnafi French accent to read a few super chats. Bringy uh can make a name for himself by helping in cinjun. Rags 2 was Kermit. Platoon, please translate for your Franco Phonic co-hosts. >> I translate what now? >> I I I don't I don't even really know. You have to translate something for your Franco frogoponic co-hosts. Um but they want >> you have to read them in French >> and Fringy has to speak in cinjun. Sorry. >> Do you do that and then I translate? I just I'm confused. >> Okay. Well, we got uh the first question is uh what is your least favorite uh episode each? So, least favorite, but Stranger Things, I guess. >> And so, I need to reply like Gambit, [laughter] >> I guess. >> I don't even know what a Cajun accent is really. Um, I I I don't I I don't know. I don't actually know what my least favorite episode of of Stranger Things is, but I'm about to make a name for myself [laughter] here. >> Uh, what is the worst episode? I don't even know. >> I don't >> It was too many. >> Yeah. I mean, I I do think that the coming out episode, just because of like how much it kills pace and how laughable it is, is one of the worst episodes of the season. Um, but then there's so many other things that are just as bad. No, I don't actually think it's possible to answer that question. There are so many share ones. >> Like the end, the end is terrible. It's one of the worst finales of all time. Uh, why would he need 12 kids and not 11 kids? I don't think they really thought that through like why the number >> no and it was just I think in the end it was well there are 12 numbers on a clock and I said people talk about didn't even feel like that played into it that much itself. The ticking and the grandfather clock and stuff didn't really didn't seem to make it into season 5 that much. >> It did. I mean it's there just as an art. it becomes like Vecner's almost like his entrance theme as opposed to an actual story thing. So like when he first when he has that this scene with when he's got the 12 kids and like first connects them together and it's the end of that episode and it fades to black and you hear the clock ticking. >> Yeah. >> And it's like is is this supposed to mean something symbolically or is it literally just oh my goodness the clock is ticking but it doesn't answer why he needs 12 kids. But then he gets even more [ __ ] because he loses one of them, right? He loses Fat Derek, but then he captures Will and Will is already one of his vessels because that's what he was used as before. But then rather than just putting Will into the mind [ __ ] prison, >> he's like, "No, I'm going to use you to locate Max in hospital cuz I couldn't figure that one out for myself." It's just they're just making up as they go along. It's insane. Uh, if you were on Minecraft row awaiting your Minecrafting, what would your final meal be? Plutes, no need to answer. We'll cook you up a nice steak. My final meal. Um, I don't know honestly. What if I order like a buffet and I have something from all over the world and I can just >> I don't know. I don't think that's in the SP. And also, I'm pretty sure a lot of places have like a a price limit. I think like I remember watching a YouTube video that said like that some states, you know, the max cost is $25 last meal. Well, because I think it's because people get things that were like extravagant, so they had to impose like, nah, sorry, man. 25 bucks is the is the ceiling. Which is funny because if it was 25 bucks, it's like, dude, you can't you that's like not you won't get anything particularly interesting for $25 as a as a meal, you know? >> Yeah, I'd want to get something crazy, luxurious, and maybe a bit different than I've had before as well. I don't know. >> I don't know. I I don't know, actually. Yeah, I'm not sure what I would want. Uh, super not a very satisfying ad, but yeah, there you go. [laughter] >> I mean, you know, there's not going to be that other than I'll get a KFC. Like, [laughter] fair enough. Which which is I because I think I've seen a video similar to that, but someone did order a [ __ ] ton of KFC if they got on death row before. And it's like, yeah, makes sense. You know, have a fun have fun with your last meal. Have some McDonald's. They could use that in their marketing. Super Mario 64 Co-op Deluxe is perfection. Unless I'm reading the SM wrongly. Perhaps you four EFAP chaps could play it together. Uh maybe someday. I don't know. You each have to pick one guy to play as between the Mario and Mario Bros.. How would you divvy it up? Mole is probably Waluigi. No copies. Yeah, I'd happily be Waluigi. He's funny. Um Frankie, would you be Yoshi? Yeah, probably. >> Damn it. That was my choice. [laughter] >> You can be Luigi. >> Well, you be Luigi. Yeah. Why would I be Luigi? Luigi sucks. Wow. No, >> he doesn't. He's um >> I'd be picking Luigi if not for Waluigi. >> Yeah. Well, it's funny. Yeah, cuz my hierarchy of Mario characters, Luigi usually slots at number two. >> Yeah. Damn. >> I I really like Luigi. And then Shy Guy would be coming in at third place, fighting him for second place. >> He's fun. >> I love THE SOUNDS HE MAKES. >> Which is funny cuz I think my favorite is Boo. I just love Boo. He's so cool. >> Do you mean Boo or King Buu? >> No, Boo. I'll take Boo. >> Okay. >> King Buu is a little bit too pretentious. [laughter] >> Buu knows what he is. He puts it in the name. Uh, I don't understand. How does a camera capture anything when completely submerged in blood? Even a futuristic? It's so weird to me. Um, I guess it depends on the effects you use. >> Are we Oh, are they talking about Well, cuz it's an X-ray camera, right? Is the idea. Um, or it doesn't It's not a conventional, I guess, is the best answer I've got for that. In season 2's finale, Dustin says, "It's only a matter of time before those tunnels reach this town. So, how do they reach under the center of the town in season five?" >> When they were blocked off in season 3, >> right? >> And it turned out that Willard dug them all some. >> Yeah. >> If you could play as Waluigi in three non-cononical games, which would they be? Well, Mario Sunshine for me. I'd love to be Waluigi. just running around and imagine him with a jetpack. I just that'd be wonderful. >> Yeah. >> Um I mean Mario Galaxy then probably with Waluigi. >> It seems >> Can you imagine him with Rosalina telling him to go on his quest and he just [clears throat] goes around robbing people? [laughter] >> Is it limited strictly to Mario games? Because they said three non-cononical game play. Okay, >> that' be that'd be great. Yeah. Could you imagine W Luigi in a Spartan suit that has a big carve out for his nose? Like a big >> I kind of want him in dead space. I think just him reacting to all of this [laughter] >> like a horrifying creature goes blah then he just goes and starts running away awkwardly. >> Who who who would be his like girlfriend for uh you know who would be his Nicole for the >> Daisy? I don't know. Well, that would I what that he lusts for Daisy, but she's [laughter] betrod to Luigi. So, he imagine [laughter] the ending then him taking off his helmet sitting there and then you've got this bloody evil Daisy [laughter] and then it cuts to >> That's what it cuts to black on him saying. Yeah. >> Yeah. I'd say that's a pretty good pick. Um but You know, there's lots of good stuff you could fit him into. Maybe S as well. >> Yeah, >> he'd be a welcome respite from all of the horrors. Waluigi deserves a bit more attention. I think he's >> he's kind of interesting he's not had a spin-off game at this point. You figure that he would have one cuz of course Wario's got, you know, like a dozen. >> Um, is Vecman defeated yet? No. Still a bit more to go on uh breaking him down, defeating him with plans. Uh does this ending count as you are r for Mr. Oreo? Sure. Of the show. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. Tell not I said hi. Will do. Oh, also tell Nick I said both hi and cherry. You'll appreciate that. With Fona now in charge of Lucasfilm, get ready for every new project to feature Ahsoka and a minimum of three glove shadows from older Fona projects. Which is funny because >> how did you anticipate the Mandalorian and Grou in that way? >> How many Glo Shadows do you get in Mando? You got Rotor, Enbo, and >> Zeb. Yeah, that's that's a really sol cuz you wouldn't really count the twins. That's not really fair. But the other three definitely counting I said gobble gobble goo. [laughter] That's good. I'm glad I'm glad that you said gobble gobble. That's funny. >> How do you love a part of yourself that makes you worse than everyone else? Find the answer to this question in Amazing Digital Circus. Also high rags. >> Okay. Well, there you go. Uh, every time I see number two, all I hear is the ATHF hypno gym file cabinet yell cough ys11 edited for YouTube. I don't know what the [ __ ] any of that means. >> No. >> I'm gonna give it a thumbs up though. Just I raised the thumb. I just watched episode 253 where platoon admitted to never having seen Wall-E. Has this been remedied yet? No, but it will be >> still in. >> Listen, we've been very busy. Okay. >> Nancy Wheeler grew up to be a gunslinging anti-mask supporter outside your local Walmart. L Bozo, good for her. 11 definitely has a face for radio in all of her scenes. I mean, she uh >> but she doesn't look that [ __ ] in other things that she does. That's that's the weird thing about her in this season particularly. She just looks awful. >> Uh I like how in season 3 she speaks relatively like a normal person. Then by season 5, her vocabulary turns into a vegetative state. This probably is again about 11, I think. Uh mom watched season 5. I asked her what she thought. She said, "I was annoyed when they had no agency. Like a portal that's going to close is there and they're talking and then you run through it when they get close to the portal." I mean, like pacing is off with urgency on like every scene. The further along you get, nobody acts normally, I guess, cuz everything's a green screen and stuff, but you know, among other problems. Um, also, I wish you Dumbos urgency to play DDLC, but I guess the writers of IRL can't always deliver. Well, a reddraft of the script is in order. Perhaps Jas will do that. Maybe Steve's actor came up with the argument since the actors seem to always pay more attention than the writers. Most of the good stuff you ever find is very likely not the duffers. It's come from someone else. And it was lucky to have found out even pieces of uh what belongs to other people in terms of credit. >> Finished fellowship last night. Two towers right now. Return tomorrow. It's been an experience watching in the theaters. Hell yeah. You keep at it. It's good stuff. Yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo. Hello all my Ewoks. Tony checking in again. I made it through EAP 300 on my oneyear anniversary of starting from EAP 1. It's been an anniversary stream every two months this year. Anyways guys, still catching up. Hope you have fun. Can't wait for the Stranger Things appendices full of offscreen events and interview answers. It'll be cool. As cool as a Sylmerelion appendices for sure. I think it'll just be depressing. the documentary. I mean, there was I still can't believe they released that. >> Yeah, >> that's [laughter] crazy. They released it and they thought that these behind the scenes clips of them talking about the movie would make people think they were [ __ ] geniuses. >> They thought that. >> They thought it made them [clears throat and laughter] look good. >> Didn't they have that interview clip with is it Rosares? And they talk about killing people off, but you know, that just gets depressing. [laughter] >> Oh my god. And then that inspired Eric Krypkkey, another, you know, hack in kind to be like, "Yeah, we get rid of our characters. We're getting rid of all the characters that you all knew were going to die all along." And Frenchie, I guess. >> Yep. Episode seven's going to take months. Was it eight total? >> Yes. >> Seven. >> Trying to think what happens in seven compared to I mean, it's all insane wacky nonsense when you get to a point, you know? Uh, rip Steve's car. Helpful and abused as Steve was. Sad, sad, sad. I know it's [ __ ] Point 9876 for the show, but if the upside down didn't exist before exotic matter was used to create the wormhole, meaning it had to be opened in real Hawkings, why isn't it still there? >> I don't know what they were thinking of with any of that. So 11 creates the upside down in season 1, but in season 5, there is a big glowing orb of death called exotic matter, which Brena may or may not have made himself in the upside. That's what creates the portal that links to the abyss, I think, is how that's supposed to work. Um, but then they say that the the abyss always existed though because the reason Eleven couldn't find anyone from her bath is because characters were there and not in the upside down and she has limited range even though she's earlier detected preachers in the abyss. I don't [ __ ] know. I don't I It's Yeah. >> Well, I'm glad we've uh got that all sorted, >> you know. Uh, criticism of the day, your take on Atlas. Self-explanatory, really. Well, I mean, you you can't just say that you you don't like my opinion and that's criticism. Like, that's you got to do better than that. >> That's more like statement of the day. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, you know what? Criticism of the forever for you. Your criticisms of the day have been lacking, man. You just they're just not very good. You got to work on them. Okay. got you got >> well I mean I mean what's why even call it like criticism why not just like say what you think >> because he wants to waste six characters for some reason it's like you know you could get more space if you don't do that >> um and you know what else not cool to be plagiarizing your criticism all right that's an old one that plenty of people delivered at the time you got to you got to get more >> how long ago was it that you watched at I mean [ __ ] how many years ago >> we're talking is that year three >> at least five years Right. >> So, >> yeah, year three would be about that. So, yeah. Um, >> so that's a that's a pandemic era take. >> You got to you got to next time, you know, find something a bit more contemporary. Okay. You'll be fine. >> Also, maybe maybe he was talking about the the one that's coming out in Netflix that people don't feel so good about. >> Well, I don't think I have an opinion on that. Maybe that's the criticism. I should have an opinion on that. You should watch the Netflix uh Avatar. I'm pretty sure season two is coming out or is out now. >> Exciting. They're going to the Earth Kingdom, right? With the Earth Benders. >> Get stuck in everybody. >> Yeah. >> Uh Mo, you've got to figure out how to turn ads off or just admit you have them on to monetize the live streams. >> [laughter] >> admit it. >> What What other reason would I have ads on >> like for your entertainment? >> I hope the ad. >> So yeah, I I if there is a chance that people don't know this. So the ads keep the lights on broadly along with obviously super chats help as well, but like AdSense for all these shows, this is how we all get paid. So, and I figure if it's too much for you, use a blocker of any kind. I completely encourage it. I don't I I don't have any issue with that. >> For all YouTube premium >> or premium. Yeah. Like um but no. Yeah. Uh all YouTubers, as far as I'm aware, there's there's a few exceptions. They will leave AdSense on because it's extremely helpful to keeping the show going. Um but if you find it is ruining your experience, you can do several different things to get rid of it. But no, I I find that so bizarre. like you have to admit that it's for monetization. It's like yeah, there's actually no other reason I would have >> internet mentality. It's like, wait, why aren't you working for my entertainment for free? >> Well, cuz it's a job. Do you work at your job for free? >> But it is it is still for free. They don't have they can do whatever >> and it is for free. Yeah. Like that is the that's the hilarious part. It is free. You don't have to pay anything. And they they follow. I wouldn't be mad if you have them on on purpose. You've got a right to monetize. >> What is the point of this, buddy? What What is the point of this message? [laughter] It feels like you figured it out. >> So, their explanation, at least they think, is that it's on by accident. I didn't know, but I did know. And it's it's I've also got on the lowest settings, so I don't know what I'm supposed to do. >> Yeah, that's right. So, it doesn't get any better than this other than zero money, which, you know, I'd say is a slightly unreasonable request. >> Hey, can you just like not make money? >> We're trying to keep the show going still. >> Seems to recognize that that's that's the case and then chill with it. So, I don't even really understand the point of this uh of this message. It's very confusing. >> And it's followed up with someone saying ad tax. So, I assume they're saying they don't they don't have the ads and instead would give a super chat, which totally fine if if that's what you want to do. Appreciate it. How the hell did you guys get away with three pre-recorded episodes in a row? Also, high ranks. I don't know how we do it, but we do it on better stories. I've been experiencing God of War story, mostly the Norse games every winter since Ragnarok's release. It has some real wisdom, and it gets me rather emotional. Has Platoon experienced it yet? I assume not. >> Uh, no. I've not played a single God of War game. >> Um, maybe we'll remedy that someday. Who can say? >> Hello, massives. Thanks for reading out my Joyce doesn't give two shits about Jonathan's comment. Uh, Fringy, a term for when male characters get their agency sapped by female character. Go to the OG, a Loki or Sylvie. >> Oh, well, like looking for like a name like a like a a name for for this as a trope like the frriging trope. Yeah, like in the case of you have the female version of a character and then >> the Loki Si one is just kind of a great distillation of it. Here is a new just better version of him but a girl. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, boy. It's the [ __ ] room. But in all seriousness, I could not take this scene seriously. Season 5 had me in a brain deadad state. But all I could think of when watching this scene is, they're going to die in the [ __ ] room. >> I love the C room. It's the room. Why would you do this? And then the behind the scenes stuff of how difficult it was to do. And the abiding question is just then why did you do it? >> Were they saying like they think this is going to be crazy popular and like blow people's minds as >> they said I think this is going to be one of the most memorable things in the season. And they're correct. It was >> it's a come room. >> The come room. >> But [clears throat] I do love that Shawn Levy uses an opportunity to talk about how great of a director he is at solving problems on the fly. >> Yeah. And then he's solving problems. So the player was just saying, "Yeah, we're just going to have to do this in post. >> We're [laughter] just >> how it goes." >> Uh for EAB 400, you guys should do a segment where you go through who, where, and how all the useless star, sorry, Stranger Things characters should have died. No, I don't want to do that. >> No. No. Never again. >> We're done with Stranger Things. We never have to return unless they make a season six, which would be hilarious. In between the two towers and return of the king. Finally got to see them in theaters. Awesome. Early night for me. I look forward to watching the inevitable conclusion of the Stranger Things arc in the morning. More people sus. Thanks guys. Oh yes, the people sus remote. He's beautiful. And we did get through it all. We completed our mission. Imagine if one of the soldiers told them to run. We don't do intelligent things ever in Stranger Things. All right. You got to do it so that it leads to the most spectacle. And then sometimes not even that. Demo dogs. Oh no. Quick, get some three musketeers. Oh, the [ __ ] hospital demo dog thing. That [ __ ] was so bad. It's the third stream in a row about Stranger Things that syncs up with me puking constantly. Note that all other days of the week have gone by peacefully. I beg of you, don't make a stream about the behind the scenes. I'm so sorry. Let's go. I think this person was more enthusiastic about uh these streams. A shilling for the foreigner objects gauge thingy. Foreigner objects. I I see what you did there. Mistakes can make movies charming like all of the goofs in Evil Dead. However, when you have $400 million, I'd say you have a greater responsibility to an extent. It's like how where did all that money go? And you're like, well, listen, they had to make a come room. Okay. It was difficult. Uh, you guys going to cover season two of Fallout? No. That show is an abomination. And as far as I'm aware, people hated season 2 more than one. Who did hate one? Of course. I imagine that three will be hated even more again cuz they can't rely on being a new novel thing. They have to actually have story. Man, this show is cancer. I hope you guys get to watch a film you like after this. I suggest a deep dive into Terminator 1 or two because there are only two. I agree, but three I can tolerate. Okay, I can tolerate it. All right, >> about Salvation. >> Um, yeah, that one I'm less in favor of. Not because I think it's the probably the better film than three, it may be, but the way that it screws with continuity annoys me more. I think the whole like human Terminator hybrid that was early in design, I remember being like, "No." >> Yeah. Mhm. Um, Vecca told me I have cancer. God damn it. Oh, though. Three shouldn't be forgiven for uh killing Sarah Connor with cancer. That was mean. And yet still not the worst thing they did to her in one of these movies. Lol. The 8-hour rule lasted all of what? Two weeks. What do you mean eight hour rule? Is it what? Wait, what eight hour? I thought it was like a 4ish hour rule we're trying to bring in on on EAP. Not an eight hour. eight hour episodes plus well this one was like 11 I think plus another hour on top because we did uh the Kathleen Kennedy stuff so you know craziness watch the Duffers create another unexplained dimension for the new series well yeah that's that is what they did right it was the it was the abyss I think it was called above the upside down >> yeah that was the new one I mean they would lie to you and tell you that they intended it right from the beginning but they didn't and we know they didn't because they went and George Lucas the ending of season two, I think. Is that the one where you see the um the mind flare above the school? I think I'm getting this one right. It might be season one. There's a bit where like the first time you see it and it's like all forky red lightning, but then they've clearly decided that the abyss needs to be yellow and then they went back and changed that to yellow to make it seem like it was in the abyss or they've done something like that which kind of you can date the moment they decided that the abyss was a thing. was not the plan from the beginning, >> obviously. >> Yeah. And why did they have to be that age group? Why not grab some dementia patients if he's looking for weak minds? >> I don't know. >> Because kids have special powers and we're just going to say that and we're not going to explore it or explain it in any way. >> They got an imagination. There's literally a mental institution in Hawkins. You'd think that's where he'd go for a first uh first for weak minds. No, it's not the right kind of weakness. As you see, uh, EAP movies Roland Damrich, uh, arc is going to be epic. Do it. We might. I can see that happening. >> That could be fun. >> The only way to stop Vakna is to force her to do a 100% completion of the PS4 version of Lord of Ring without updating the game. Oh, is there a is there a if you buy the the physical copy and you play it offline, is that like is that even more glitchy? That That sounds like fun. A lot of people, but it sounds a lot more awkward to be able to fetch that ability. Do y'all think orphans hate playing dodgeball because no one misses them? Oh, yes. Guys, I don't like short man. I like long man. Oh, we we we we get to we we we we just cut a long in half. So, it's still long. It's just two pieces of long. You would have gone jumped in the 80s and nobody would have cared uh nobody would care in the 2020s. That's what VCNA showed him. Our timeline. Oh, this is about the Have we got to the gay scene? I think Mike would select the give head option in. Do you remember that meme? Give head. [laughter] Uh they never have the balls to have anyone disapprove of Will, even a little, even of his timing. No one uh even needs time to process it. No, of course. It's it's an angle that they were never going to be willing to ever portray. Uh even though they could probably use that to better make some points about the things they're trying to get points for instead of just >> Yeah, but they're not interested. It's just it's because I mean it is it is a example of the Duffer brothers are like it's better if it's just everybody's super happy and immediately on board with it compared to like the unfortunate reality of the situation especially in the 80s which is there's probably a few people in that room who really don't like it. Um, and it's actually worthwhile for your art to reflect that because it's more it makes it more useful to real human beings, >> you know, like like what if what if I imagine what would the Duffer brothers think if they're like someone watched that scene and assumed that they would be in a situation where if they oh god damn it, my alarm's going it's so early. My alarm is going off. Um, if somebody watched that scene and they were like, I'm going to come out and then they did and it went really badly for them. Like it it it alienated them. It caused problems for them. Like I wonder what the Duffer brothers would think about that. >> Nothing. They didn't think about it in the first place. I mean, they even had it where >> so obviously Vecna connects to Will again and then offscreen cuz Will recounts this this experience and he says Vecna showed me like these terrible things, the worst things that could ever possibly happen if I did this. And the worst thing that apparently Vecna showed him was that oh yeah, we just grow up and grow apart I guess vaguely. So like even the villain who's trying to traumatize this kid into not doing this cannot imagine a state of affairs in which there are any negative consequences beyond just growing up. It's so lame, >> horrifying. >> You know, if art imitates life or it should do that to some extent, then I don't know, man. For your art to be useful, it needs to speak to reality. And what you created is like fanciful. >> It's not it's not real. Uh and it's not useful to people. And I don't know that it would be of any consolation to anybody who was in a situation where they're like, "Oh, cool, bro, but like in my circumstance, it wouldn't go that well, you know? Like, it's just it's just [ __ ] really." Half this season has just raised one question. Can't I just be watching live action One Piece? You can. You can indeed do that. This is my second favorite way to defeat Vikner. Who are the kids stalling? Let's defeat Vikma now. Why is it someone called him Velma? Uh, the sooner the Stranger Things squad defeat Velma, the better. Can the Stranger Things squad please kill Veina now? I think the these these are good names. The soldiers are cool, but please defeat Vincent now. Why does the thumbnail say Hitler dead? Oh. [laughter] Um, that's that's a the the meme for I think uh in the in the you know the newspaper Hitler dead like meme is when it's like announcing the departure of certain hated media people like Kathleen Kennedy people post that instead. I think I saw a tweet that had it and I thought it was hilarious. Um though the reality is folks you should never have expected that would make Star Wars any better. >> Nope. Um, I think there's going to be a bit of a thought as time goes on about exactly what Kathleen Kennedy's role was because Andor's always the one that stands out as like how did she allow something really good to happen then? >> And it's not to say that she's in any way talented. It's more of a just just what exactly was she even doing there? >> Saying yes to things. >> Yeah, >> seemingly. Oh, you cut away before we defeat Vamilia Perez. Why must you turn this into a stream of lies? Oh, maybe this is where we split it in half. >> That's um that movie like existed and it it had like a real shot at taking home like the biggest prize of all of the Academy Awards >> until >> it's a very funny movie. >> Yeah. >> All I know is that song a horrible horrible song. >> The the Yeah. Yeah. Peter still vagina. >> What the [ __ ] [laughter] >> Well, [snorts] also that like lots of people in Mexico like despise that movie. >> Yeah. >> Well, rightly so, cuz the there are no Mexicans in it. It's set in Mexico. There are no Mexicans. And the director explained this as saying there was a lack of local talent in all of Mexico. >> And that's um why would you there was a lack of local Sorry. >> Yes. I mean for added context, the director is French, so you know there were certain >> attitudes shot in France. It wasn't shot in Mexico either, was it? >> I think it was a lot of it was shot in Mexico. >> Oh, was it? Okay. >> I think so. >> I don't know why, but I feel like I've heard that it definitely wasn't. Now I need to know. Let's find out. Not that it actually matters that much, but >> Oh, was that maybe that was the reason? No, it wasn't shot in Mexico because of the lack of local talent. That might have been the reason. It's it's just um uh apparently yeah it was originally meant to be shot on location in Mexico but it was moved to a studio near Paris >> and that was in in accordance with the wishes of the director. >> The interior scenes included a reconstruction of an authentic Mexican backdrop. [laughter] >> Yeah. So it was shot in France. There you go. It feels like forever ago when you last talked about Stranger Things. It's been ages. Welcome back after all these years. Of course. Wait, so we get to defeat Viven or No, we nearly defeat Viven, I think, at this point. How far into the episode do we defeat Victoria? Let's say an hour, maybe two. If they could fit Walt's entire ego into New Mexico, certainly the Duffer brothers could fit the mind flare in there, too. Clearly not. Nope. Vea kind of forgot about the Iron Fleet. [laughter] The prior super chat spelled Velma's name wrong. True. Steve took a V card, so he wins by default. Oh, we're at that scene, are we? They should have stuck to the Eldrich horror of the first few seasons. Well, it makes no difference. >> One, but you know, >> like they they they can't handle any of it anyway. I genuinely want to know, how do we save Star Wars at this point? Wait for a George buyback. Pray to glitter. I'm tired, boss. So tired. It's There's no way George is buying it back. That's not going to happen. >> No, he's too old >> to begin the training again. >> First step towards saving it, you got to get rid of Fona. He can't He can't be a part of it. Uh so we're [ __ ] for a long time. I'm afraid. There's nothing reasonable in terms of how it could be saved right now. >> Maybe if Star Fighter comes out and bombs, then Fon would have kicked off with two bad movies and he might get a third. And then if it bombs again, they might say, "Right, we burned so many years keeping Kathleen Kennedy in charge long after her time should have ended. We're not going to make that mistake again." They might try and course correct more quickly with Fona. Um, but it's still we're talking years and that's just getting rid of a problem. It's not actually fixing or doing anything positive to restore what was broken. And there's this this horrible idea that we'll eventually find out that they take Fabro on as the new creative head and he says like I'm not going to be making any of it but I will be you know the Kathn Kennedy position. You'll be like oh god. >> So you know and it's like so what needs to happen is like whatever needs to happen is so unlikely that uh it's barely entertainable but you may just get lucky at some point and we may end up with something that's okay that might happen >> by accident. Yeah, I genuinely want to know how Oh, wait. Sorry. Pretty much the Black Ops 7 final boss. Was that in that crazy dream world thing? What was the Black Ops 7 final boss? >> Well, you remember there was that one where it's it's got [ __ ] uh Merl and he's like 20 ft tall or something like >> is that the final boss? >> I don't know if it's the final boss. I don't know what the final boss of that game is, but that's the only boss battle I'm aware of from uh from Black Ops 7. >> Fair enough. very much feels like, yeah, that shark has uh long since been jumped. We're in a we're in a different realm now. Uh Steve should have gone all The Last of Us 2 on Vekna. Yeah, man. With the baseball bat. We would have loved that. Being great. Uh Mhler, other lads. Hello. Quick question. I'm very curious what the analytics on a 17-hour video are. 17 hours and 1 million views. What? Well, I I don't know if I don't think it means like a million people saw the 17 hours. I I assume a view Do we even know what a view counts as these days? Is it like half an hour plus or or Well, it wouldn't be for 5 minutes plus. I have no idea. >> I don't know if it's based either. >> Qualifying it down. You have to cuz some places will like streaming services will count it as just 30 seconds. >> Um but I guess for YouTube's purposes it would have to be longer, but then YouTube then doesn't count ad block views as views sometimes now. So, you don't actually know. It's almost a meaningless statistic. It's It's an annoying one. It would be nice to know what it counts as, but I don't think they will ever tell us. >> Yeah, that would reveal too much. Don't want YouTubers to have any sense of what the [ __ ] is going on. Also, stop being lame and watch the dub of Backstroke of the West after you find someone who saved it as it's long since been taken down and now only a few clips. Make your own dub. I don't know. Who can say if such a thing will ever be seen by us? What if they gave Terry Ives Vecnner's blood and then isn't she a loose end for the military to recreate the physics? >> Oh yeah, you might be right there. Terry Ives is still around and she must have had a blood transfusion cuz that's how this plan works. That's how Eleven was born. >> So she can actually Yeah. Well, unless I mean does she run out of the blood? I think they just forgot about Terry Ives. >> That's Yeah, there you go. Uh, Duffer brothers played 4D chess. She never existed in the first place and Dustin fooled everybody, but planned on her never being talked about again. Genius. Steve lacked Steve lack of change and thus continued happiness is well represented by him being the only one to continue to rock his 80s hair. Steve survived. That's all that matters. Though they did bait his death pretty hard. Uh, >> Fringy, I'm disappointed. Oh, about what? >> I don't know. Maybe the show. That's probably it. Oh, >> yeah. No, it's it is disappointing. >> Have you seen the Monsters Inc. sequel series Monsters at Work? I saw season one and it sucked. Barely any Sully and Mike and laughing is not greater than scaring. What? In the shows? >> Well, I'm watching that show. No, but >> Well, no, I haven't seen it. I don't plan to see it either. But laughing is canonically five times more uh >> more effective. Yeah. >> And it gives other monsters a chance to work their magic, you know. >> Also, can we get a Pixar arc soon? That would be nice. Maybe you got you got Toy Story 5. Yeah. >> I'm excited. >> We talked about one and two. >> We did. And three. And four. >> And we got a video on four. Look at that. That's all you need. Um, I'm excited for the spin-off series Weirder Stuff. Yeah, sure. I think everyone is. Um, these guys have the egos the size of the sun. Now I understand why they spend 12 hours on one scene. I don't know if you're talking about the Duffers or us, but uh, that's just the fun of messages, I suppose. Did the Stranger Things squad defeat Wilson yet? You can only hope. Never mind. It seems the Stranger Squad defeated Wilmer. I'd just like to voice my support for some limited EFAP coverage of a few favorite Simpsons episodes, at least for rag's sake. Who knows what the future may hold on that front as well. Boro went real quiet when Sha Levy came up. It's a it's a horrible realization for a lot of people when they very much enjoy some of the stuff that he's made because they're like, "Oh, he's he did that, but he's that." And it's like, listen, it makes sense when you think about it, okay? He doesn't have he doesn't express himself conventionally. Um, you guys heard John Reddit himself made a video. I think this might be about that Reddit mod guy. Oh, that that was very funny. Lawn Chevy. Compare this to Peter Jackson's funny little ramblings that have been playing before the 25th anniversary re-releases of Lord of the Rings. You can feel his fondness for the craft and his memories of the project. Well, it's a masterclass. Lord of the Rings. A lot of people cite it's both the, you know, execution and the production behind the scenes for, you know, how to do everything at this point. Basically, Stuckman's favorite movies are usually top 10 best films of all time, searches, and someone insulted him in the past with this statement. Everything about Stuckman is is passionless and conventional, so it's not a surprise really. Yeah, you get the sense he has the opinions he thinks a good film critic is supposed to have. So when we went through those entries from his book and it's like he doesn't really seem to understand any of the movies that he's put in his book, but every movie in the book is exactly what you would expect to be in the book. >> Uh unironically, Robocop is my favorite movie. That's fair. Good movie, man. >> It's a really cool movie. Uh, The Greasy Strangler is my favorite film. What does that say about me? I don't know, but someone will find out someday. What is everyone's favorite film? I know Moses is the prestige. Fringy, is it Wall-E for you? Rag Splatoon. Wall-ally is like really competitive for uh for for the uh potential number one slot. The reality is is that my my my favorite movies is kind of like a fluid collection. Yep. >> Saving Private Ryan is there. hot fuzzes up there. It's uh it's it sort of, you know, oscillates depending on depending on how I'm feeling that day, like which one will ultimately claim the number one spot. >> I just I do not even have a number one spot. It's pointless and futile. >> What about uh just a few that could maybe be competitive? >> All the usual boring conventional ones. Fellowship of the Ring, Empire Strikes Back, New Hope, uh Jaws, very good movie, [ __ ] um etc., etc., etc. >> Terminator 2. Yep. Terminator one. Alien. Aliens. >> Anything unconventional? You just got done talking about how Chris Stuckman's conventional. So, ha, you're a hypocrite now. >> Yes, but I don't I don't write books talking about how amazing hours of [laughter] fun. Um, I I came up with nobody for the top 10 movies of last year. I'm going to stick that on the list. I think that's a really >> Yeah, >> good shout. Uh, shout out to Nutsa, who I feel really found in these last few episodes and felt to me much more confident and vocal in what she wants to say. You know, it's just a matter of letting everyone know gradually that they got to barge in with us a little bit and once once they, you know, feel nice and comfortable with it, you get to hear all kinds of wacky things. She's a she's a great guest for Ephab. There's crazy crap ton of bull crab and you get an ounce of quality. I assume they're talking about Stranger Things. Uh, which, yeah, you know, I guess the defense that it's not fair to judge plot holes because it's for kids is annoying. Why shouldn't they be cohesive? Kids do pick up on details, separating movies like Toy Story and Minecraft. >> Yeah. >> Yep. >> They certainly do. >> Every uh every film of every genre and [ __ ] tone and uh particular [clears throat] audience demographic, it has like prepared defenses. And that's just one that always comes up for any movie that's uh I guess [ __ ] 12A or below. >> Arguments put forth by adults though, not by the kids themselves. >> H curious. Thanks for the long fap, you mad lads and less. No problem. Would Vigma die from playing Merton Prime 4? H I uh I think he might like it because it's awful and he's awful. That's that's how I connect these things. Uh I literally just watched the entire extended Two Towers in cinema and you guys are still here. [ __ ] legendary to be fair. I know that sounds like it's crazy, but I mean what what is that? 4 hours >> something like that. >> Which, you know, that makes sense. We would still be here. Make man long again. That was a particularly long stream though, so you're all good on that front. Um, which I suppose takes us to our Pokemon's uh the Pokemon entries. So, the first one is 368, which as far as I can see here is described as a Gorbis, which what a name. Um, the South Sea Pokémon introduced in generation 3 is a pure water type Pokémon. And while it has an elegant pink mermaidlike appearance, its Pokédex entries reveal a cruel nature. It uses its thin pointed mouth to insert into prey and drain their bodily fluids. >> Oh, so like a Yeah. So an underwater mosquito >> and it's called it's complaining to HR. >> Yeah. >> Face and that look. >> It's a bit deceptive in terms of like this is the most horrifying thing in the in the ocean potentially. Well, I think I'm thinking that because of the name, Gorbis. You know, you just expect something a bit more uh aggressive. >> Well, yeah, the fact that you've got gore in the name. >> Yes. Uh then we have 369, Reicanth, a dual type water rock Pokemon first introduced in generation 3, known as the longevity Pokemon. It is famously based on the real world coalanth, a prehistoric fish once thought to be extinct. And here he is. >> Hi. He looks like he's sleeping. >> Yeah, he looks chill. Deep Sea. Boring. Search your deck for a trainer card. Reveal it and put into your hand, then shuffle your deck. Oh, boring as in like drill, right? Not boring as in he's >> I mean, it could be a really boring move to play. [laughter] I don't know. >> Well, yeah, fair enough. And 370, which is a love disc. Love disc live in shallow seas in the tropics. This heart-shaped Pokemon earned its name by swimming after couples it spotted in the ocean's waves. Seems a little bit uninspired, doesn't it? >> I remember that one. >> Yeah, I remember. >> Boring. >> Is a disc. It looks like a hot love disc. Like, all right. [laughter] >> Got it. >> You're >> How much money will we make from this? Millions of dollars. alone has probably made over a million dollars in money in some shape or form. >> Yeah. Then we have the extinct animals. So in no Inoseramis uh this one's confusing. I think this is the largest fossil ever found of of a creature that recent or extinct creature. So >> really >> at least that's what I could be wrong. It's like a mollisk. >> And what is that meant to be? Oh, okay. I was about to ask, >> but uh hey, fair enough. Of course. Then we have the castasteridis. Uh biggest beaver you've ever laid eyes on. I'm sure I pronounced that perfectly, by the way. >> Oh, yes. >> Look at him. [laughter] >> Imagine him coming coming at you. >> Not preferable. Oh god. Uh, and then we have the beast of Lysoo, the mysterious monstrous amphibian. This is a rendition of such a creature. >> Lots of wonderful little critters in the world, aren't there? Uh, then we have our Lego pieces. The first is the demogorgan, naturally. And look at him. He deserved a better TV show. >> I like that they have him holding the claws to match, you know, like in the regular hands turn into claw hands. >> Yeah, >> that's fun. And uh plenty of design choices there that work out quite well. Lego is fun. Uh actually a hat that goes over a normal head. The normal head is printed to look like the closed mouth. So the So he's got a normal head and then the the flowery part I guess is uh like like >> in front of it like a hat. Okay. Oh, I think that makes sense actually now. I think I can see that. That's clever. >> They have a lot of like clever solutions, don't they? >> It's like the Lego man is cosplaying himself, you know, like [laughter] he's kind of cosplaying. So then we have um what how is this described here? So is the intellect devourer from the actual mind flare hollow middle so it can go on a guy's head. See it'll be the alien conquest clinger. So what it looks like um >> the >> this is the intellect devourer >> and that is from >> Lego the they they're saying it's from actual mind flare. So I guess this is inspired by the the D&D mind flare. >> But yeah, fair enough. I suppose I like that it' be a little brain hat. It's kind of like um an extended family of head crabs and face huggers or something. I suppose can't go wrong with all of them. Uh so then this one doesn't have a description attached as they often do. I suppose the this one's somewhat self-explanatory. Uh you have you know like um regular legs. These are thorn legs. So you >> like you can create >> reverse hinged. Yeah, like you'd use these for Mr. Tumness presumably. >> Ah, right. I see. Yeah. >> Um, gorgeous. And then we have uh the Lego piece of the day. This is Does this even work? Is they're calling it Lego piece of the day is Duplo brick. Two times the height and width of a normal brick. Technically compatible and used in some large Legoland statues. All right. Well, the results here aren't helping too much. I guess cuz I can't narrow this down, but this is what I've got. I guess you can involve Duplo in your um your approach with a Lego and the Duplo bricks are a bit different, but some of them fit and maybe you create some marvelous masterpieces with gaps that need to be filled by Duplo. Who can say? Um anyway, [clears throat] that moves us to our Warhammers. Uh well, that was funny. So, the first one will be the katan shard of the nightbringer shard of death. That is the the model that we're looking at today. Uh if I can just find it. Oh, interesting. Oh, this would be one that if I was super into Warhammer could very likely get a statue of. Look at him. >> Oh, yeah. That's cool. Yeah, that's really cool. That is a feels like a techno reaper or something. I like the cape. The way it's like glitching out or pixelating. >> Yeah, >> he's cool and spooky. There's uh Drinker's been saying he's been getting into Warhammer recently, reading a lot of it. I was like, you have to let me know if it's uh because isn't it just like an immense amount of lore? It's multimedia like crazy. >> I believe so. Oh, you know, lots to get into, I suppose, which is just good for anybody who's liking it. Uh, guys, things are pretty strange, huh? Genuine Stranger Things dialogue. Probably Warhammer model of the whenever Hiron Blackheart 2026. Remember Heron Blackheart? He's back with a silly face. So, this is this is our guy Hon Blackheart if it decides to load. Oh, here we go. Yep. >> That's a bit edgy. >> Look at him. Well, it's funny. We just got done with the [ __ ] Reaper and it's like, "Oh, so this one's edgy." And I'm like, "Yeah, but I guess when you're the when you do like a Reaper adjacent thing, you get to be a bit edgy, right? Just inherently. Otherwise, you're not portraying him as reaper-ish." But this guy, you know, look at his little goblin pet. He's He's probably pretty chill. [laughter] >> Nice little skull on the floor, skull on top. They like their skulls in Warhammer. Symbolic of many, many, many, many a thing. Uh, which wraps us up. So, thank you all very much for your messages. We appreciate it. And we shall see you for the next wonderful TV show that collapses miserably, possibly called The Boys. [laughter] Who could say? But for now, we say goodbye to Pip. Cheerio. Bye. See you.