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The latest episode of EFAP Mini dives deep into recent major film releases, specifically focusing on *Avatar: Fire & Ash* and the upcoming *Wake Up Dead Man*, while offering sharp critiques of other pop culture phenomena. The hosts express strong dissatisfaction with Rian Johnson's *Knives Out* trilogy, dismissing it as culturally insignificant compared to Cameron's work, and extend this criticism to modern gaming titles like the inconsistent character designs in Sonic games and a disappointing LEGO Batman game plagued by poor dialogue. They also touch upon an awful Assassin's Creed film and debate whether Disney should be excluded from year-end rankings entirely, arguing that ignoring such a massive industry influence skews public perception despite its dominance over current media trends. A significant portion of the discussion centers on *Avatar*, where the hosts analyze complex lore points including animal enslavement via neural links and James Cameron's handling of death within Na'vi culture. They speculate that Eywa functions less as a benevolent deity and more as a parasitic hive-mind, while also addressing controversial fan interpretations regarding the "hair connection" between characters versus telepathic mating bonds. The conversation extends to character arcs in both *Avatar* and Spider-Man stories; Jake Sully is viewed effectively as a traitor for his alliance with humans, whereas Quaritch evolves into an anti-hero despite being preferred by some hosts as a true antagonist. Similarly, the group pities Spider-Man's abusive backstory but critiques writing choices that make him overly forgiving after near-death experiences at the hands of protagonists they favor. Beyond specific film and game analysis, the segment covers various lighter topics such as potential mergers between Warner Bros. Discovery and Netflix or Paramount, recommendations for shows like *The Amazing Digital Circus* and *Claus*, and trivia about ancient sausages and extinct animals including the Picasso moth and bulldogfish. The hosts also address reception disparities in games like *Slay the Spire 2*, which suffered due to a negative Chinese version release, and express excitement over extended cuts of *Lord of the Rings*. They conclude their critique by labeling modern cinema as "feelies"—shallow emotional stimuli lacking substance—and share humorous anecdotes about theater experiences before signing off with holiday greetings to their audience.
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Hello everybody. Welcome to EFAP 364 and 5 super chat catch up where we talk about movies, big releases that came out, huge even. This will be like Avatar 3. Wow, everyone crazy for that one. And then the other huge one, Wake Up Dead Man, which kind of a Many people talked about that one. It was kind of crazy. Seems like the maybe the end of the Knives Out franchise, who knows? Or maybe not. Maybe we'll get a fourth one, who can say? Which as we said was ironic because it was probably the best of the three. I would say even definitely. >> [laughter] >> But what can you do? He's getting better, see? You just got to give him a chance. Come on, Ryan. >> Well, it's not getting I don't know that you can say it's getting better cuz Glass Onion is the worst. >> Yeah, and it was before. >> Yeah, but before that was a Knives Out, which was better than Glass Onion. >> So he got worse and now he's gone better. >> I'm saying there's no consistent trend. >> I'm saying there is a consistent trend, it's just short. And who knows what happens next. Was it Was it better or worse that he went from TLJ to Knives Out? >> I'm not sure. They're both really horrible. >> Yeah. Different flavors of horrible. >> Uh imagine a black guy coming up to Neo Cortex and asking him what the giant N stands for. Okay, you just said Neo Cortex. >> Yeah, and then he he'd say yeah, Neo. >> You'd be like, all right. And then they'd they'd hang out or something. Globox is Rayman's sidekick. Between him and Tails, whose design do you prefer? >> Uh >> Globox. >> Is that >> I'm not familiar. >> Is that the blue guy? >> Um oh, it's this dude. Which person quick. >> No, yeah. I'm uh I'm way more in favor of Yeah, I mean I don't I This shouldn't be a hot take, but like Sonic character designs are really generic. Um they're fine, but like classic I way more would go to bat for, but the modern ones like yeah, whatever. But yeah, this fella, particularly in the 2D art style, he's very Yeah, see? Look at that. That's a great design. >> Yeah, I prefer global >> Cool Tails. >> I don't It's You know, I like The thing is is that I I'm much more fond of the the classic Sonic designs, but I mean Yeah, in terms of the modern one, it's just like yeah, you know, it's fine. I mean, yeah, he's a fox, he's got two tails. Yep. >> Uh will you guys ever cover Fallout season 2? No. Nah. I'd vowed I wouldn't after season 1, and I stuck to it. In Welcome to Derry, it itself is very entertaining to watch both when a clown or when something else. That story though. Yeah, I've heard it's not worth seeing. Cuz of the story, of course. Uh Rayman is finally getting a new AAA game as announced for his 30th. I hope it succeeds. Please oh let Please let it succeed. >> Yeah, but it's a bit unfortunate cuz if if what they were talking about is what we've has been announced, which is a remake of Rayman Legends. I'm kind of like not Like that Rayman Legends a great game, but I don't like I don't like that the art style is getting turned into like a 3D art style. Mhm. Kind of bothers me. Like Rayman Leg- Rayman Legends like looks great. Um I way prefer the art style of that compared to like putting it in a 3D sort of thing. I guess I'll take it, you know, like if over You know, I guess yeah, I guess I'll take it but um >> Um Lego Batman Legacy of the Dark Knight looks like it could be another solid Lego Batman game. Also hope it's a fun change of pace for you lads to stream. Well, I did stream it and I was immensely disappointed because it's it's not like the Lego Batman games from before and it did not play as an entertaining Arkham-like to me either. The dialogue was extremely annoying. Uh But hey, there's a supercut out on the Moola channel. If you want to see what I thought of it and apologies if uh maybe you you loved it. You don't quite it was you know, it's just it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't for me. Much like the Skywalker Saga was not for me and I'm starting to realize I don't think I'm going to get a Lego game ever again that I like. Uh >> Probably not. >> Yeah. Uh when judging a year of film, we should ignore Disney and superhero sludge because it'll be like judging a classroom full of smart children but bringing the average grade down because one child is super dumb. Be honest, judging the class. >> Yeah. It is judging the class and also you are underestimating how many of the dumb kids there are like in terms of >> Well, and how many of them are Disney? It's not one dumb kid. It's like in this case most of the kids in the class are Disney or superhero. >> Yeah, that's my point though. There's a lot of dumb kids that aren't even Disney. >> Also that, yeah. >> Yeah, I don't Yeah, like I don't know why we talk about it as if it's strictly Disney, which Disney again represents over 40% of the American film industry. You can't ignore them. They're like [laughter] and animated of course it's going to it's going to become smaller in terms of the total ownership of these uh you know. >> It's not even fair because like you know, we're of course comparing Disney used to be a name attached to films that were amazing. So >> Yeah. >> The strength of all years involves Disney. So, it's just like the the strength of >> Like I I don't know what to say. Like you have to accept that like that Of course they're a part of the conversation about any year. Of course they're a part of the conversation about the state of movies in general. It would be weird to pretend that they don't exist when they are the biggest and most influential of all of these companies. >> The Last of Us Two remastered one an award, so did season two. A >> Well, yeah, I think season two got nominated for Emmys cuz it's part of the club. Season three won't though. >> Uh is Wake Up Dead Man better or worse than Metroid Prime 4? Uh um >> comparison. >> Yeah, yeah, it's almost like you need a different question. Like which one would I do again? Then it's like it's obviously going to be >> get through Wake Up Dead Man a lot quicker. So, yeah, but it doesn't feel like a Like I really very much dislike the kinds of films that Rian Johnson makes. >> Yeah. >> Not to say that I obviously don't dislike Metroid Prime 4 cuz I do intensely. Um but Rian Johnson's films are a particular kind of insufferable that's a bit tough to to to deal with. >> The Knives Out universe has less cultural impact than the Avatar movies. You may not like it, but you know I'm right. I mean >> Yeah, probably. People say that they think they're great and they love Benoit Blanc, but like it doesn't reflect in they don't basically. They're kind of lying. >> I can't wait for this movie to come out, get acclaimed, to be immediately forgotten, and leave no cultural footprint again. And it's funny cuz you don't even know if they're talking about Wake Up Dead Man or Avatar. >> But it happened to both movies. >> To both movies. Let's not forget that Rian Johnson made a character that throws up when she tells lies. Yep. Extremely stupid. >> In that acclaimed movie called Knives Out. >> It's disgusting how the AI-generated ass onion trilogy held up as quality whodunits. Check out Kid Detective for a modern a good modern mystery movie. I've seen Kid Detective. >> is good. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, that was a good movie. That was kind of cool. Surprisingly good. >> Uh want to see actual conflict based on characters having different flaws and perspectives? Watch Amazing Digital Circus, also high-ranked. Well, well. >> I mean just that's my wild theory. >> But yeah, sure. >> [laughter] >> You know, but yeah, that's another recommendation to add to the list. >> Merry Christmas, gentlemen. Got 10 minutes into this movie before I gave up and went back to rewatching Breaking Bad for the 10th time. I'll count on you boys to fill me in on what I missed out on. Ugh. God. You know, like we said, it's the best of the three, but it's still so garbage. So much dumb [ __ ] in that movie. Thankfully, Jeffrey Wright's filmography wasn't tainted by this film because he was filled in for by his twin brother, Jeffrey Wrong. A noble sacrifice. Yeah, he was in it briefly, Jeffrey Wright. He's like a priest or something, right? >> Yeah, that's right. Yeah, I totally forgot that. >> Hug did this. Uh Hugh did this is such a pain in the ass stupid payoff. >> No. >> [laughter] >> I believe you said Eef should have covered Toy Story before the fifth one. Can it start a Pixar arc? I I think breakdowns would be more substantive than Eef had movies. Well, I mean, inherently we get to talk in more detail than we would in an Eef had movies, but simultaneously Eef had movies get hyper-edited and you get clips and stuff, so it's different sort of thing, but uh there wasn't time to do Toy Story 1 before 5. Uh >> New. >> But you know, doesn't mean that we won't someday check out the golden era. Assassin's Creed movie is awful. He's literally hooded up to a Palpatine machine, uh hooked up, sorry, to a Palpatine machine to go back to the past. In the final fight, he fights while hooded up to the machine. I keep saying hooded up. >> Well, yeah, no. It's uh I know the hooked up you mean, right? >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, high regs. >> No, I I know that in that movie like the animus isn't like a little thing that he lays in. It's like this big contraption that has him like jumping around and doing flips and [ __ ] like while attached to a robotic arm. Um >> Hm. >> But, I mean, you know, it's But, hey, that Assassin's Creed television show on Netflix by the showrunner that did Halo is season two is yeah, man. Yeah. I mean, that series just has totally lost like whatever was cool about that series is dead at this point. It's gone. Um I regs, why do you own a dog? I D O and a horse I D Uh this is like come out weird. Like there's symbols and [ __ ] that I don't understand here. Uh I don't think he has a dog, though. But, he might do. Actually, I I don't actually know for sure. And does he certainly buy these days? Who knows? Uh if he if you give the answer I suspect, shame on you, doggo. As to whether he has a dog? I mean, I almost hope everyone has a has a pet that they love and loves them back. Is it as bad as Glass Onion, the movie that's dumb on purpose and expects people to clap because of it? No, it's not as bad as Glass Onion. But, it is dumb on purpose in some ways. >> are. >> It'd be hard to be worse than Glass Onion. That's a tough one. >> Love all you guys. Have you seen Amazing Digital Circus? Also, high regs. I haven't. And apparently, we should. Ever seen a show use popular fan theories as a chain to jerk the audience around? I have in The Amazing Digital Circus. Also, high regs. Oh. That doesn't sound like a great thing, though. >> Mhm. >> Technically, a lot of major popular shows do that. But, uh yeah. Shout out to blessed Pitman. His producer's dad is sadly terminal, which has kept him away from videos, but he's back and gayer than ever. He does uh he does make some videos here and there, and I obviously hope he's doing well. Um bake up bread man. Not quite the title of the movie, but close enough. Hail fappers, I have a Christmas movie to recommend. It is a 2D animated film called Claus on Netflix. Yeah, I need to see that. Uh I'll remind myself as well. >> good. >> I hold it up to the same level as Lilo and Stitch and Emperor's New Groove. I recommend it to all of you and rags especially. All right. Um Okay, so you got we we we we both got to do the line, which is funny cuz I don't think I need I'll need to to give you the the text, but uh Oh, would you shut the [ __ ] up, woman? I was down in the bloody mines for 14 hours today. >> Did you tell me to shut up? >> They Well, they want you to do the first bit as well. >> All right. >> Oh, would you shut the [ __ ] up, woman? I was down in the bloody mines for 14 hours today. >> [laughter] >> That [ __ ] is so [ __ ] funny. >> Yeah. I can do and I'm trying to watch the bloody television. >> [laughter] >> Do you do you think I know this reference? What's this from? >> Smiling Friends. >> Oh, see now I I That's something I need to That's something I need to see. I've seen a couple of episodes. I've not seen much. >> Honestly, I almost don't want you to not so that when we get a chance, maybe we could do some kind of like thing for it the first time watching it cuz that show is so [ __ ] funny. >> Okay. >> Question, Molar, what are your thoughts on cheese? I'm a big fan of cheese. It's uh I wish it didn't taste so good while also being so calorie dense. What a what a what an [ __ ] that cheese is, but certainly a tasty daisy. >> You need to get turned into wire rabbit so that instead of cheese it becomes a about vegetables. >> Yeah, there you go. Um, what is Rags' favorite color? Oh, I think he's answered that a few times, but I can't remember what he said. Mhm. Would it be Was it could be yellow? I don't think so though. I think he's very in favor of yellow actually. Uh, Frigid, what's your position on the war in Ukraine? >> Uh, it's really bad. It shouldn't It's It's really bad. >> And what role do you think the EU and US should play in the war in Ukraine? >> Uh, they should help Ukraine. >> And Platoon, what is your favorite food? >> Um, sausages. >> Sausages? Really? >> Yes, sausages are amazing. >> I do like sausages. I just because, you know, >> Your favorite guy. Mhm. >> When it comes to favorite food, I don't I don't usually have fantastic answers. I always opt for pizza. >> Pizza is on the list. I also I'm not a food person. Maybe that explains the sausages answer. It's just they go well with everything and I like them all the time. >> It's a British answer even though sausages are not What? My god. >> Our sausages are famously not very sausages. I mean, Germany does very good sausages apparently. Ours are >> That's what I've heard. >> like emulsified fat awful tubes or whatever they are technically. >> Gorgeous. >> I Now I Now I want to know where they come from. Like I Cuz now I'm I uh It It's one of those things where it's like, mhm, where where do they Apparently, it's funny. Wikipedia's got a bit of history on sausage making. That um maybe maybe a cotter >> The one thing you're not supposed to look into. >> What? >> [laughter] >> How the sausage is made. >> No, I No, I mean like where they came from. >> Yeah. It's It's a joke. Don't worry about it. >> Yeah, no I don't Apparently Homer, not Homer Simpson, Homer Greek Homer mentioned sausages in the Odyssey. >> Damn, I wonder if they'll make it into the Christopher Nolan film. >> Wait. >> I wonder Yeah, evidence suggests that sausages were already popular among the ancient Greeks and Romans and most likely with the various tribes occupying the larger part of Europe. Yeah, I didn't know cuz I I I was wondering I was like was that I don't know why I associated it with Germany. >> Yes, so do I. I wonder if they Which Which nation do you most imagine is like going to be the first one to rip into a pig's guts, tear out its intestines, tie the ends together and cook them? Something about that just seems German to me and I don't know why. >> Mhm. >> Perhaps. I'll have to ask Metal. But Rags, do you have a doctorate in canon law? We all do. It's a necessary part of E-Fap. We got to be a doctor in canon. How hasn't seen the film but his biggest sin is that the title is very similar to a title of a cool song from Hunt Showdown. Mhm. Also play DDLC dumbos. Very well. I never understood the phrase you can't have your cake and eat it too. If I have cake, you know damn sure I'm eating it. Why let it spoil? Well, then you won't have it. >> Mhm. >> Very straightforward >> [laughter] >> I guess but fair enough. Just saw a commercial with Ryan Johnson on screen and he tells you why you should see the film. How is Ryan a selling point? I don't really think he is. I don't even know how many people know of him that well these days. >> be for some very small depraved people but there aren't too many of those. >> Uh Moller Moller showing his ignorance on loud bang acid. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm I'm a little bit naive on the LBAs. It's true. A pod racing game with no pod racers? Well, that sounds >> Uh I think that there are pod racers in that pod racing not Well, no, it's not a pod racing game, but um >> Galactic >> Whatever it was that Yeah, it's just that it's not about pod racing exclusively. It's got like it's got like speeders and stuff. >> It does have but Sebulba is back in it. Which means like he must be like a hundred years old. And I'm sure I'm pretty sure in canon like Duggs is supposed to live for 75 years. So, he's actually he's not only outliving most of his species, but he's still racing at the top level. So, good on him. >> He he is the Sonny Hayes of pod racing. >> [laughter] >> Uh for $10 a month you can see Denims be plenty holy. I don't know why this is here. But like okey-dokey. >> No, thank you. >> In the Eastern Catholic Church, married men can be ordained as priests, but I don't think that would be allowed in the US. All righty. >> Oh, but also I mean, it's not in Wake Up Dead Man, it's it's not the Eastern Orthodox Church, it's a Catholic Church, so >> Yeah. I mean, you can go across so they you can do it in Anglican churches as well, you can get married. And then the Catholic Church very briefly, I don't know if it still does this, but for a time it started to say, "Well, if you got married while you were say like a vicar of an Anglican church and you decide to move across to the Catholic Church, we will allow you to keep your wife." Which is nice of them. But I don't know if that's still a thing. >> Uh is this actually the first live I've witnessed? Maybe. There's something I I feel like we should mention more. I realized on both the ends of like there are people who watch it on my channel who have no idea that Muller exists. And then there are people who watch on Muller who have no idea where we stream EVE Online. It was like, "Oh, um Muller and Mula, those are the two channels." That's where we go live, and then where you can see it on archive, and then a bunch of other stuff. Cuz some people be like, "Well, I don't need Bullocks. I watched them live." It's like, "Oh, we do a bunch of other stuff on the second channel as well." Like uh E for movies, E for TV, uh you know, the catch-ups and and and supercuts and stuff. There's There's just a bunch of stuff. So, uh you know, I I maybe I should mention our episodes more, but it's in the description at least. Uh Ryan stealing plot from Romancing the Stone. He He couldn't have stolen anything from anybody, okay? What he's making What he's cooking is is uh is just too bad. Nobody did that before, you know. Why didn't the priest drop the diamond over the Titanic? Hasn't Hadn't it sunk yet? Well, you wouldn't want to be copycatting. >> I mean, there's a lot of better ways of getting rid of it than killing himself by swallowing it. That's for sure. >> Happy Christmas, E for Excellent. Have you ever seen Child's Christmas in Wales? My father and I watch it every year for the holidays. Was curious if it was tradition in your family. No, I haven't seen that. And certainly not a tradition, either. Uh Netflix bought WB. Please God, send 50 Rebel Moons. >> Well, now it's changed. Now it's Paramount's trying to go for it, but I think they're getting I think uh there are some US states that are trying to block it from happening. >> Well, I thought that just cleared. It may have recently cleared. >> think it got cleared by the DOJ, but that there are there are like lawsuits that are being or you know, attempts to block it by certain states in America. So, I don't know what that means in terms of, you know, what what actually how it'll actually move forward, but I mean, I assume it's probably going to happen and that'll just be fantastic for the for the uh for the film industry. Yet more consolidation. I mean, that's just sort of pick your poison, right? One way or the other. If it was Netflix or or Paramount, it's like either way, it's just bad outcome. >> I feel like in any better movie, you'd find out the motivation for the homicide is that the victim had a Klondike bar and the murderer wanted it. I mean, that's more solid, yeah. It's a bit of a better foundation. Could have moved from there. I just realized that in all three knives out movies, the victim is outlived by their mother. What are you trying to say with this, Ryan? The Well, the victim is outlived by their mother. Well, in the first knives out, the victim is [ __ ] super duper ancient. I don't think he Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Second one is the the twin, right? Am I Am I forgetting things? >> Yes, twin. Yes, twin. >> I guess Yeah, their mother would have lived out there more than likely, but I I guess, you know, that's just going to happen if you're in your mid-30s to whatever, so for a lot of people in there. >> one. >> Uh yeah, third one is >> The third one. >> Oh, man, I forgot so much of these movies. I don't know I don't even know. It's a but it's it's a potential connection, except I don't really understand how the person was Unless they're saying like cuz there's more than one victim technically in in each of these films. Uh unless we're talking about the starting victim. Anyway, how did Benoit know there was a flask? >> I'm trying to remember the flask now. Which [ __ ] was that? >> Was the one that the door was somewhat held open by, right? Or am I thinking of something else? Or it Remember the >> There's the the He finds it behind the door, does he? >> Yeah, and the door closes There was there was a There was a sort of thing about the way it closes and the way it looks and everything, but uh >> Did I have memory hold almost every I I think I did the notes for that one. I've forgotten every I normally remember everything if I take notes about it. That movie's just gone. >> For the best, I'm sure. Oh, dear, guess who's back back again. It's that time of year again, isn't it? I knew I was missing some subversion in this period of cheer and merriment. I will enjoy listening to this. Well, it seems like a tradition, yeah, for us to check out what Ryan has recently been up to and uh seems like no one else really cared. At least in our sphere, like no one even watched that movie, I don't think. It's for the best, I'm sure. In defense of wishy-washy non-literal commitment to ideas like God or legend, I recommend Vinland Saga and the character Askeladd in particular. Very well. Ben Waar is as smart as Ryan. Boo. Rian Johnson sucks. Merry Christmas, everyone. Cap is best guest. All right. Well, you know, I'm sure he'd appreciate that. A shilling for the Rian Johnson implausibility meter. Got to crank to maximum, I'd say, that meter. Throwback to Jay agreeing with Russell's Davros take. I don't remember Jay agreeing with that take, but I would certainly [ __ ] hope not. It's [ __ ] It's That's the one of um you can't portray a bad guy in a wheelchair because it gives a bad name to like the differently abled. >> Yeah. >> Which is absolute insanity. Um you could just run that all the way down. Anything cuz you know, people like There's a There's a trope. I can't remember what it's called, but it's like why do bad guys always have scars or or whatever that That's actually like offensive to the you know, people who've suffered different blah blah and it's like, dude, nobody ever looks at like a scarred person just goes, "Oh my god, I think less of you because Palpatine looks [ __ ] weird." And it's like, no. And uh you know, it's history. It's always about contextualizing what the character's been through, who they are, that sort of thing. I I don't I just I'm not interested in any of that. Dr. Ryan, I am a movie maker. I make movies. Oh. Wait. Oh, they're they're they're they're doing the meme. It's It's so it's he'd be like, "I am a movie maker." I mean, he is. He's just, you know, just not very good. That's all. Police Squad episode 1 opens with the subtitle The Butler Did It. Most people laugh, but visionary Rian Johnson asks, "But what if the butler did it?" Mhm, genius. So, we can stop simping for Rian now, right? I mean, who was? Certainly not us. I genuinely would never have learned this movie released without this EFB. Yeah, I know it's it's weird. The Knives Out the first one made a way bigger impact. Um, but by the time it gets to the third one, not so much. Filoni's responsible for a lot of good. Name it. Name it right now. Name something that's actually worthwhile that he didn't just inherit, you rats. Oh my. Well, you're not going to hear us advocating that. Nope, but yeah. [clears throat] Yeah. Can you blame my energy? Freaking sucks. Uh, I guess the low energy. I'm so sorry. Have a Have a Have one of them um What's good to get you energy quick that's actually good for you? Like a Like a The good for you. Well, I guess so. >> Yes. Everything's good for you in the right dose. >> He's one bad mother fish. Shut your mouth. All right. Fair enough. Uh, they'll bring back Andor as Filoni's Andor, like Daredevil born again. Why don't you like it? It's Andor. You like Andor. People are still assuming they'll they'll like glub shitto a bunch of Andor characters and other stuff. >> That was I remember thinking that towards the end of Andor season 2. It's like, "I almost hope everybody dies cuz then Filoni can flanderize them later." But he could do that. He's bought Mon Mothma back, obviously. He could do that with Klye cuz she survived. >> And let's be clear, death wouldn't stop him. >> No. No, he'd just use the world between worlds to rescue his [ __ ] beloved characters from It's so [ __ ] He's so horrible. >> Yep. Um, in Poland, which has always been very Catholic, only Easter Monday is a public holiday. Good Friday is a normal working day. Well, all right. >> All right, that might have come up previously I was explaining that Good Friday is always been like Good Friday nothing is open on Good Friday like nothing. And Easter Monday as well. And Sunday, but Saturday, you know, stuff's open. >> Mhm. Speaking of Smiling Friends, check out the Adult Swim animated shorts News Quest. All right, I'll have to do that at some point. Merry early Christmas. Thanks for all the great commentary. Also watch Freiren, it's great. Season 2 comes out in January. Well, well. >> I've heard a lot of good things about Freiren. >> Yeah, it's been recommended a bunch. Not going to lie, it's bad, but the Fabian stuff in VTM2 is better. Very well. Dear panel, Merry Christmas and have a happy New Year. Merry Christmas. Why did the boxer keep getting knocked out? Oh, which character was a Oh, well, I guess Well, >> Oh, it was a main guy. Main guy. >> Yeah, he he's an ex-boxer, right? Or he just he was a very violent man or something. >> He punched a priest. >> I believe so. >> annoyed him in the prologue. >> What a bastard. We need to ban high-capacity tactical poisons. I guess so, yeah. Ryan, what are you doing, man? I don't know, man. He's he's knives and out. The [ __ ] writer is obviously a Ryan insert. He's got a couple of those in his movies. This is what you get when you don't re-draft. I'm not even sure he drafts. Can we be certain of this? Don't look up the new windows at Notre Notre Dame. Well, what did they do to the new windows? I I I >> Windows 11? >> No, like in uh in I'm looking at it now. What Let's see old old versus new maybe. Cuz it got burned down, right? >> Oh, windows of hatch. >> it received significant damage, yeah. >> Oh, I remember there was some controversy about assuming this is the thing I think we're talking about this. Is it the stained glass windows in Notre Dame Cathedral and then there was some debate about what they were going to depict in the new version? And that it wasn't good. I don't remember why it wasn't good. >> Yeah, I can't find like a a clear sort of comparison of old and new, but apparently it's uh concerning. Yeah, I don't know enough about that, I'm afraid. Um If I have the real murderers of this flick, my God. I suppose we are. Congrats, you did it. And Obama means family and family means Walking Dead Man. Well, all right. Fair enough. Um which sort of transitions us from Wake of Dead Man to Avatar the third. And we begin with Mind you, the Na'vi take over and control animal minds by force. What happens if a strong-willed animal takes over a child Na'vi? What then? Ooh. >> I mean, it's just the whole thing that they'd bend bending animals to their will like instead of actually, you know, getting them to do things for you by, you know, training them. >> Yeah. >> stuff in return. Instead it's like, "Here, I let me enslave you with my mind." >> It doesn't happen in the war. The situation described doesn't happen there because it is clearly sex coded. Na'vi has been. And legally as a Na'vi you're not allowed to [ __ ] an animal until you're at least 18 cuz they have a whole ceremony for that. Um and unlike the Na'vi, the animals are not inclined to rape random creatures because the Na'vi are good. So, there is no chance of a of an animal doing anything bad with a Na'vi child or anything like that. It's just it's so well worked out. The world is is perfect. There's nothing to complain about. >> I don't believe you. Ethnic genocide against non-human species is always good. My God. Somehow Ultimate 4 Quest for the Quest of the Avatar is still only good piece of media with the word Avatar in the title. Well, I know some people who'd disagree with that. Avatar Last Airbender, of course. Question. I can fix her, Quaritch. Also me. Yeah, well, that would be the one meme that came out of the movie, but still didn't last that long. >> No, maybe 2 weeks, I think. It was about as as long as it went. >> Jake Paul got TKO'd in his boxing match last night. Was that the thing where he got like his jaw like knocked out to the point where he was >> I remember it was against Was it Anthony Joshua? Cuz like that happened roughly the same time when Andrew Tate also went into the ring with someone and lost like it, but like I almost have a bit of weird respect for Jake Paul for actually going against a professional heavyweight boxer and losing because obviously, whereas Andrew Tate, I think, lost to a social media influencer. So, it's like one of those people has has put their life on the line and the other one kind of didn't. >> At least James Cameron has bought a house in Austin, so he can help Robert Rodriguez make a better movie, Alita 2. Uh >> I thought James Cameron lived in New Zealand. >> Yeah. >> Maybe he did. Maybe he bought a house in loads of places. Buying a house per country, maybe. >> Everybody likes Austin, don't they? That's uh That's where uh That's where everybody wants to go. >> I like Austin Powers. >> No, Austin, Texas. >> How's it better? The most profitable franchise to never be talked about. When you get around to it, Disproof must be on GoldenEye Fap. Oh, I mean, yeah, we could do a GoldenEye Fap someday, maybe. I don't know. Merry Crimbo, fellas. Also Hi Rags. Off topic, but I watched X-Men First Class with my parents and I was always confused how Xavier is expected to restrain Shaw. Magneto had to kill him. Um I mean, he did restrain him, right? Like they just wanted to take his helmet. Oh, I'm trying to remember the [ __ ] plot at this point. Isn't >> get the helmet off? Is it Is that in the submarine? They crash the submarine on the beach. They go into the room. His helmet is off. They create a >> Magneto gets the helmet off with the wires, like the cables. >> Yeah, and there's a gap in like the wall of it. So, yeah, like Charles gets control, but he can't control uh Magneto at the same time. And so, Magneto uses that period of of stasis to shove a coin through his head if I remember rightly. >> Correct. But, I guess they're saying like, "Well, what else is going to happen?" Because if Charles loses control of him, then he kills everybody anyway. Um and I can't remember enough to say what their plan was. Um Merry Kingsmas, make sure to say slurs. Of course. Avatar 3 or Lord of Ring game? Hm. >> Lord of Ring. I mean, that's culturally relevant. >> If I've got to do one of them again, it's Avatar 3, because it's way quicker, but, you know. Do Na'vi have a real concept of death? Like when she says kill all the humans, does she understand that humans don't go to a tree matrix after death? >> I don't think she or the movie thought about that, but the movie also doesn't understand that they have a like the Na'vi shouldn't have a concept of death in the same way because they can all just go and commune with the hippie tree. And so, the movie can't begin with them saying, "Oh, we're all so cut up about the death of whatever that guy's name was in the last movie." When you show flashbacks to them just communing with them and he's fine and he forgives everyone, so there's no reason to hold that grudge. It just They needed to have worked out what the Na'vi attitude toward death was and they didn't. They just gave it a human attitude toward death cuz that's drama and James Cameron is a hack. Oof. >> He is now, unfortunately. >> Um yeah, cuz their vision is like we all live in the same street and have fun, but then sometimes if something happens to you, you end up going into one house forever. And it's like >> Your goddess will eat you if something happens to you. >> Yeah. Which you know. Oh, great. Uh with Avatar Spunk Goggle WeeWee and Fallout season 2, I'm more excited to see the assembled council of long rip these pretentious garbage right films apart. Well, you got us on Avatar. Uh the end game for the Avatar franchise seems to be that the Avatar world spirit will heal the Earth or something like that. >> I think that is a rumor for what happens in four or five assuming they ever get made is that they may go back to Earth. >> Yeah. Uh hi rags, what does the panel think the best year for movies is? Friends and I at work had a chat and decided on 1999 uh both for the quality of the films but also the quantity of quality. Any contenders come to mind? 99's a good one. Um but honestly there's a lot when you start going back far enough. Like each year is kind of impressive. >> Yeah. >> 99's a pretty good pick though. Like that's a good I that's a good one. A big thing is that 1999 you can point to as like a really important year for sort of defining you know, like the next 10 years, right? The 21st century. You know, it's the year of the Matrix. It's uh the the year of Toy Story 2. It's the year of um Uh well, that's great. I love when I just >> [laughter] >> forget immediately and not the other movies I definitely know about. >> Oh, I mean they're pretty big hits. >> 1984 is good for that. Is it 1984? It's Beverly Hills Cop, Ghostbusters, Temple of Doom, Gremlins, Karate Kid. >> Yeah. >> I mean the real >> Police Academy. >> film to mention from 99 for me was Phantom Menace. I don't know how you missed that one. >> Oh, yeah. All right, well, I mean, that did come out that year and I guess it was influential. Just >> It truly was. You get the Spyro Shag me as well. >> [laughter] >> And the Mummy, which is awesome. And I think there was a Bond, right? It's either '99, so it would be >> Ah, yes. It was The World Is Not Enough. >> Yeah. [clears throat] Um yeah, I'd have to like look at a list to be 100% sure. A lot of this stuff is the kind of thing you remember and you're like, "Oh, yeah, of course, of course, of course." Uh TFA part 6, when? Who knows? Also, hi Rags, Nor, and uh what's Platoon's catchphrase? Let's go with what? Is that a catchphrase? >> [laughter] >> Yes, I apparently it is. >> Um the whale goo is so dumb. Do you understand the concept of immortality, the weight of living forever? Y- You sure? To an extent. Obviously, I haven't done it yet. But I might, you know, I'm thinking about it. But yes, the whale goo is dumb. There's a lot of references here, Moby Dick, Abraham and Isaac, the Guardians joining hands to control the power of the Infinity Stone. Yes. Yes, indeed. >> That's what Avatar is, it's just theft. >> Mhm. Always be thankful the Avatar franchise for giving us Mo'at on calling into Metal's Forge uh from outside to rant about how botched Quaritch was. Yeah, I wanted to talk about how children should have died and the film would have been better. Um but uh that whole part in Avatar 2 will forever throw me off. It's one of the stupidest decisions ever. Uh I'm sure I'm sure Cameron thought it was very clever. I wanted to make a clever joke, but I barely remember the plot of Earth, Wind and Fire. God bless Mecha Quaritch, extinct little blue freaks. I liked Mecha Quaritch as well. Fire and Ash sounds redundant. Think water and wet. Eh. I think it's a little bit different than water and wet, but >> Mhm. >> I get where you're going with it. The relationship to the Na'vi Sorry, the relationship the Na'vi have with their animals is what Eater's idea of what Pokémon is. Pikachu and Charizard are friends. Space horses are victim. >> I'm not sure I know that reference, but I mean the relationship of the animals to the Na'vi is just sexual sexual harassment. >> Yep. And people don't like to think about it. How is Eywa not a slaver and parasite? It actually holds back its dominant species and even calls its population. And then how is humanity not 100% justified? Oh, no. Eywa like when they eventually put Eywa on Earth, that's going to be terrifying. >> Yeah. >> Assuming that happens. >> Sure is. >> I think Eywa lives in the living things, not dead rock. She's not literally the planet. She's just kind kind of hive mind biocomputer made of robots. All roots, yeah. That's That's the the scary thing. She is like a giant creature that controls a lot of what happens on the planet, but everyone has like a sort of whimsical view of her when it's like I think that's just a a horrifying Lovecraftian creature that is sapping the life out of everything to keep herself alive or something. You guys got to entertain there's a there's a worse thing happening here. Criticism of the day for enjoying food tastes so terrible for preferring chicken over steak. I mean, I do as well. So. >> So do I. >> Chicken's [ __ ] bitching, dude. >> Chicken's really good. And of course that makes it It's chicken is uh It's got to be more sustainable if there is one of the two choices, right? >> As far as I'm aware, yeah. >> can feed a lot more people with chicken than you can with steak. And I mean also you can't be wrong cuz it's it's literally just a preference. >> [laughter] >> Uh The spirits seem to only have memories up to the time they were last uploaded to the spirit network. This is why he has to ask how he died. >> But they all know whoever character is in the final scene of that movie when they all have that stupid gnostic ascension bit and everyone's like, "Oh, it's you. Well done for everything you just did. We know exactly what you just did. We know who you are, Spider. Here, we'll lay our hands on you and now you're part of the community." Um I think it the rules are just whatever happens in James Cameron's head in any 5 seconds at a time. There's nothing more than that. The only reason that the brother Smurf doesn't remember at the beginning of the movie because the movie needs to remind the audience what happened. That's why he forgets. >> Mhm. Uh TFA 10 years later video essay Evap. There are some doozies out there that have made me dumber for watching them. Thanks for the entertainment, gents. Um Yeah, I guess we would have somewhat missed the the party on that if there were some interesting videos regarding it, but I'm sure there are. It's just uh we got other stuff to talk about, you know? Unironically, I swear I'm not making this up, but Resident Evil Afterlife took more advantage of 3D than most movies do. >> Sure. >> That was really early. Yeah, cuz there's a part where Wesker throws his glasses >> Yeah. >> And they're like, "Hey, but it's like in Resident Evil 5." It's like, "Yeah, that's why you did it, huh? Cuz it was Resident Evil 5 or cuz 3D?" >> Rags, you should check out Easy Red 2. It's Daisy meets Battlefield and Brothers in Arms. Also, why does Tarantino sound like Nosferatu totally in from VTM 2? I don't know. Maybe it's drugs. Who can say? Melania Evap won the first joke anti-woke movie. As if I'm ever going to [ __ ] watch that. >> I'm Yeah, that that sounds That's There's no way it's funny. It's probably profoundly dull. >> Yeah. >> Like insanely boring and just stupid. That's crazy, man. $40 million, wasn't it, to get the rights to even make it? >> Well. >> What is it it's more than that? I want to say 70 million. It was a huge amount of money either way. >> 50 million, right? I think it I think it was like it had a 30 million It was It was a something like either 30 million dollars for the rights and then 40 million dollars to produce like actually make it or the other way around. Just an absurd amount of money to be spent on a project that nobody would want to watch. >> Uh I imagine you may have covered it at some point, but I want to explain why I wanted to see a little girl get killed more than Metal's Forge 65. Exactly. >> [laughter] >> I I stand by it, too. Uh want to see drama caused by character decisions that aren't awkwardly shoehorned in by terrible writers, bad actions caused by trauma that aren't then excused by trauma. You want The Amazing Digital Circus. Also, High Rax. Very well. Metal is bad juju. Well, it makes sense uh when you live next to the MR machine from hell that eats a metal. Oh. Very bad. I don't even want to do that. Uh I miss Tonal. Do you? I mean, yeah, he was he was a light on YouTube, you know. Uh good old Down With Ross. Ross, just such ancient memories at this point, you know. >> [laughter] >> Um Merry Christmas, gentlemen. It's Lorelei from the YouTube channel Southern Fried Cinema Siblings. Our episode Avatar, Why It Had No Cultural Impact drops two out of one up now. Oh, I guess it's like first part out of two, maybe. Which is backwards. Uh watch our Christmas episode Die Hard, Is Holly the Bad Guy? What? Why would you ask if Holly's the bad guy? I don't think she's the bad guy. I think the other guys with the guns and stuff, they're the bad guys. The where they stealing stuff and all that. I didn't rewatch the first two, but I did feel like the characters were reset. Glad to know I'm not insane. Um watching them all in a row is tough, man. >> Yes, it is. >> Especially the middle part of the second one, it is excruciating. Nothing happens for like a whole hour. Rough. My feelings on these movies is summarized in Desperate of Antrim's the worst movies of 2025 video at 1 hour 22:45. Also, I'll summarize this, play DDLC dumbos. Very well. Uh the small hands and Albert eyebrows is human Na'vi hybrid trait, not a forest Na'vi trait, I think. >> Uh maybe. I don't remember what the rules are. Um No, no, that can't be true because the sea Na'vis have webbed hands, which obviously the forest Na'vi don't. I thought they were commenting on that. There might be some other subtle details in the hands that they were also commenting on. But the forest Na'vi are not they they don't have the same tail shape or hand shape. And that's the point that That's this in part two when the the wacky wizard woman, she's like, "Nah, these people are from Satan because look at their tails and their hands." I'm sure that's a forest Na'vi thing rather than a human thing, but I could be wrong. >> Uh the small hands and eyebrows Oh wait, uh sorry, I read that. Quaritch equals number one wild sex after flamethrower play. Yeah, I mean what he gets up to, I suppose. You should look the forest forest internet. It's the IRL inspiration for Eywa, but unlike Eywa, it's an actual part of the ecosystem that exists to harm herbivores. Okay. >> that's when trees kind of send out chemical signals to warn other trees that things are grazing on them? I think that might be that thing. >> My God, the happening. >> I Okay. >> Um a shilling for the Avatar averageness forgetability profitability nexus meter. Are these movies neuralizer prototype test patterns? Uh I remember the neuralizer. That's a good reference. >> Yeah. >> Do do They have lots of batteries. They're on the last working mask. Oh. >> didn't need batteries in part two, but that was just invented in part three. >> Mhm. >> When they decided that the only way to solve that problem is that like you kids who's lived for all of your entire life wearing a mask, you can't live your entire life wearing a mask. We're going to have to send you away to people rather than asking the traders to bring us batteries from those people. Cuz we got a no Sully left behind or whatever the family motto is. >> Oh, yeah. >> I got asked to leave at the a third of the way through the movie because I was laughing so hard at the ash tribe coming in wasted Sully's forces with a single shot rocket launchers and guns while millions of humans gunships can't. You got asked to leave? >> cuz you were laughing so much. That's funny. >> I don't think that's To me like if you were talking, that's one thing, but laughing I know it could be obnoxious, but I guess everyone's allowed to do that, right? >> Well, yeah. I mean it's like in I was funny I was about to say in the Simpsons, but it's Cape >> Cape Fear, yeah. >> the reference, yeah. >> He was finding that movie genuinely funny, damn it, you know? >> [laughter] >> Yeah, and then Homer finds it funny, too, and he gets in with his laugh. >> No, really though, that's too much. >> [laughter] >> Sideshow Bob. >> Uh such great episodes. Yo, love you guys. Been a great year. Just wanted to ask what your favorite topic to cover this year was. All right. Well, >> Favorite topic of 2025. >> I know what mine is, but I'll let you guys go first. >> I need to be reminded almost of what the things what what would jump out. >> Mhm. >> I mean we just >> blurs. >> We could do a relativity thing, right? As in like the last year as it stands right now. So we got like James Bond, The Boys, Mando and Grogu. Obviously, these are high contenders. Born Again, as you remember, the ultimate Noah Grimuglia thingamajigger. >> [ __ ] was hilarious. >> I think it's got to be that for the sheer dramatic arc of it. >> That's my pick. >> [laughter] >> Yeah. >> I think that yeah, makes sense. >> Mario Galaxy, Project Hail Mary, um >> Wow. >> That was fun talking about Project Hail Mary. >> Oh, Nine the Seven Kingdoms is definitely a top-tier one. That That [ __ ] is awesome. Hey, and Eternal Sunshine. >> Yeah. >> Oh, man. >> I mean, talking about Eternal Sunshine as well. >> Remember what the bad? >> I I do now, and I will forget it in about a minute. >> Oh, Stranger Things. >> Mhm. >> Definitely. >> Oh, and we did do a Gollum round two, which was pretty good [ __ ] >> [laughter] >> But uh yeah, no, I would be I would be siding with the the Noah Grimuglia arc. That [ __ ] was funny. Hope you guys are doing Oogly Googley I guess that's probably the Oogly Goo. I'm assuming it's a Smiling Friends reference is what I'm saying. >> Uh >> Oogly Goo. >> Some friends games on Steam get unjustly positive. Star Wars Outlaws, The Last of Us Two, Suicide Squad, etc. Are there any games you guys think are unfairly negative? Hello Mborags. Um I think the the score for Slay the Spire 2 got like completely obliterated because of uh the Chinese version. Um to the point where there was an implementation of like stats recognition and splits to show that it wasn't an overall negativity thing. It was that specifically cuz I don't know if it was a translation issue or something, but uh Chinese customers were not happy with the game for something that went wrong with the Chinese version. I don't know. Point being, that was unfortunate for them because the game is very fun. And uh It's how it goes. We got [snorts] tickets to see Lord of the Rings extended in theaters next month. Can't wait to finally see them. Long live the long Hilumbo rags. Oh, yeah, man. Everyone's got to go see Lord of the Rings extended at some point. The hair connection is a telepathic link. She knows everything about him basically once she connects. Ooh, it's more than that. Drizzly-ishly more than that in a way. Uh as Platoon made clear in his Avatar 2 review, this trilogy is just for the feeling. So, the feelies. No substance, all spectacle, a foul simulacra of cinema. >> Ooh, yes. The feelies is from Brave New World. It's just it it it predicts what cinema is going to become before cinema was even really a big thing when Huxley was writing. But the idea that really it's just like it might start off with noble intentions of telling stories, but actually it just devolves really quickly into here's just like the most shallow emotional stimulus you can get. And that's what a movie's going to be now. And it's just going to be used to sap all life and meaning from the world. >> Mhm. I'm reminded of when I went to um Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker. Bad movie with an entire theater who would laugh, cheer, and clap seemingly on command of the pauses in the movie. Really? Well, you know, I guess some people did enjoy that movie. Good for them. >> Yeah. The guy sitting a few seats down from me sure didn't. >> Yeah. [laughter] A note on Spider. I felt a bit of pity for him, like he's an abused child that had no understanding of his situation nor means to escape it. Sure. Feel bad for him, I guess. >> Well, yeah, it's a bit awkward cuz like he comes through in a big way and uh like a lot of the time and he's severely disadvantaged um in this world. And for all of that, like the [ __ ] two protagonists of the of the series like seriously legitimately get really close to killing him. >> It's insane. Really strange. >> What a scene that was. Huge mistake. >> To the point that he's even like it's okay. It's okay, father. Do it. >> Imagine this their inability to write him as a character and inadvertently makes him the best goodest character in the thing cuz he just like he has no opinions. He just forgives everyone for everything. >> Yep. >> [laughter] >> Uh we need to make the Na'vi a spacefaring civilization, Elon Sully. No. Much like the film, I'll forget this episode shortly after it's over. Cheers, lads. Yeah, that's the unfortunate part of covering Avatar stuff. You have to just accept that it will be forgotten the moment it ends. That's how it goes. Uh hi Moobles, been an avid listener for many years. You rock, keep up the good work. Could you say the line uh Indra, Jeff loves you and you're amazing. Thanks and cheers the crew. Hi Rags. Well, thank you. Uh thanks for letting us know. He is indeed. Say like an awesome RE5 remake gets made with a bangercock mode, would you who would you pair up with Sorry. Who would pair up with who here? Or would Maul pair with Drinker? I have to pair with Drinker because we're we're doing so much Resident Evil stuff. We're we're Resident Evil buddies at this point. However, it would be pretty [ __ ] cool to see Fring and Platoon play through it if that happened. I'm just saying. So, you know, it's up to them. Whatever they want to do. >> Could be my second ever Resident Evil game. >> Oh. We need to drop dingoes to get rid of the rabbits and then the tigers to get rid of the dingoes. Cool. >> Uh well, the dingoes have not successfully gotten rid of the rabbits. I can tell you that much. >> Just nuke it. That should sort it all out. >> Well, no, there was uh biological warfare is what was used against the rabbits and I think it was pretty successful, but this is relatively like relatively it's like oh instead of like 10 million rabbits there's like 3 million rabbits. I might be underestimating how many rabbits there are and that was back in the 50s I think that they did that. But uh I'm pretty sure it means that if you have a pet rabbit you cannot get them vaccinated against um against that uh that disease. It's not allowed cuz otherwise it could spread a uh immunity among the uh the wild rabbits so yeah. Mhm. Don't let your pet rabbit like outside unsupervised in Australia. >> Uh Pandora has less gravity. Any Earth animal would have been at insane strength in comparison. A cat or rabbit could overpower animals several times a larger. Interesting. Merry Christmas to my fellow massives. Jake Sully, literal enemy of mankind. Yeah, he's a traitor. He's a complete [ __ ] traitor and a multi-layered traitor. >> It's like uh Then then then Quaritch like you think you're one of them? It's time to wake up and then he unfortunately smooshed the wrong katana. >> Yeah. >> I think >> [laughter] >> that would have been a funny ending to the movie he smooshed the wrong one and a bunch of blood shoots out and then [ __ ] blue Jake just collapses to the ground. >> [laughter] >> Rib removal. And then they put the goo in a cup and they're like hey we want help. And they're like no, I think he's gone. >> Yeah, and then I was trying to get a little veins in the blood and it's like this is not working for me guys. >> Uh there's a deleted scene from the first movie that has Jake getting kicked out of a bar. Basically removes whatever sympathy you have for Jake in the main movie if you see it. It's insane they filmed it. >> Uh yes, I remember I remember that. >> Yeah, I've seen it but I've completely forgotten what the takeaway from the scene is. Do you remember the scene? >> I just remember that he gets thrown out. >> Yeah. Um it's just alternate universe Alien 3. Uh but Alien 3 is better than Avatar, okay? I'm saying. Eywa is the queen bee of Pandora and Kiri is the new queen that goes out to form a new colony on Earth. Maybe. That might be what they're doing. Raggedy old Biden is showing. My god. This [ __ ] is why space conquistadors are right. It's hard not to side with them, okay? Should change it so Na'vi live for hundreds of years and really have kids, effectively immortal, just swapping to animals and only have kids to either replace a lost soul or take over a kid's body for old soul. Mhm, that could create some other interesting aspects of ethical quandaries. >> Yeah, imagine yourself with any even halfway interesting science fiction concepts entering the movie at one time. That would be nice, but no. >> Uh Avatar as a concept would be better if it was a lone survivor of a Smurf joined up with the humans to kill the planet as revenge and or to save the galaxy. >> Yeah, he like he wakes up. He's he's the one who he learns the truth. He's like Neo when he he learns that he's, you know, plugged into the machine. This one lone Na'vi learns that his goddess has been feeding on the corpses of his loved ones, breaks out of his mind control, realizes the humans were right, sides with them, burns the tree down, kills the god, and saves the world. That would be a cool story. >> Uh Starmie got a mega evolution, mega Starmie, and it's it's confirmed Pokémon doesn't try, and I hate it. >> I don't want to see that ever again. >> Yeah. Uh to be honest, I would vote to kill Spider, as well. The risk is just too big. The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one and all that. >> [snorts] >> Oh, well, the thing is is that I want to I want humanity to get all of that. I want humanity to be able to just take over Pandora. Like I would that Yeah, I I would Na'vi suck. Yep. >> Molar request, which episodes of Buffy do I skip, please? Preferably none of them because it's all a big old package. >> There's no Yeah, there's no point. Like take it from somebody who really didn't enjoy season one at all in retrospect. Like I'm I'm glad that I I know I'm really glad that I've watched the whole thing including some of those episodes. >> And then take it from someone who I'd watched that did the skipping mode. They ended up going back. They wanted to see more of just you know, what they'd like left out even if they were the worst episodes cuz it's just like, yeah. Listen, you just have to take my word for it and it might not even be a show you like, but you should go for it. You should just go full throttle and hopefully it is something you end up liking. Organized chaos E-Fap wiki page is written in Wingdings. That way the cringe dialogue is now a visual medium. Okay. >> [laughter] >> Just saw the new Force Awakens video. At the end when Rey's character comes up, I felt I'd heard it before. Turns out Overly Sarcastic Productions said the same about Rey in their video on strong women. So, they framed it as Rey being a relatable and realistic character. Oh god. I'm sorry, but like I don't think anyone could deny she's clearly completely unrelatable. Like nobody feels anything for Rey. Um certainly beyond her initial purpose which was like a big audience insert of a theme park ride which doesn't last like inherently. Which is what's been shown. Um they keep threatening and playing around with the idea of more Rey, but they still can't commit to it. Why do you think that is? There's got to be people at Lucasfilm that are like, why the [ __ ] would we do that? It doesn't work. And other people are like, yeah, Yeah, that's what we have. That's it. That's the story. Rey is the story. What do we do? We do Mandalorian and Grogu, of course. Just a flying visit to wish you masses a Merry Christmas. I will watch your, no doubt, gushing praise of the new Smith to film uh Smith film tomorrow. We did love it. It's true. Is that whale brain juice? Baby whale brain juice? Twice the immortality, half the weight. Oh, yes. James, I'm sorry, but you missed your chance to make this a franchise 13 years ago. I can respect the dedication, but who cares about Avatar, really? Nobody cares about it in any kind of serious way, but people still go to watch it, so there's that. >> And much fewer each time. They get not even a small amount, either. I did crunch the numbers in the video, and I can't remember exactly what it was, but it's it's not trivial the number of like how fewer people go to watch this one than even the last one. I think the last one was just cuz it was a 13-year gap, and so it still seemed relatively new. This is uniquely a franchise that does not survive releasing in close proximity. It actually requires big gaps, because otherwise people realize how empty and repetitive it is. >> Yeah. All right, sweet crispy blue Avatar's almost forgot. This is why we need to bully anyone who uses AI extra hard. Platoon, it's ruining art and is a crime against humanity. From what I aggressive. This is a feels like a killer out of nowhere. >> Yeah, I'm it must have been in relation to something. AI would have improved the Avatar movie had it written in, obviously. Um and I I I just prefer I don't know. When it comes to AI, I prefer evidence that people have thought about it for themselves rather than received an opinion online. So, you know, when you've done that, come back. >> Ferrari or Prius? People only remember muscle cars. >> Um I mean, all right, cuz it was something James Cameron said like that he was making Ferraris rather than Priuses when it's like, dude, you the other way around. Except not really because a Prius is like an like a reliable like it's a smart decision. Like a Prius is like a sensible car. >> Well, I don't really know anything about that. So, I agree. >> I just I remember finding it stupid as a as him saying like yeah, cuz he said that's what we're making. We're making Ferraris. Like no, you're not. >> Oh, yeah. I do remember that quote now, actually. >> Well, maybe you're making that new electric Ferrari. >> [laughter] >> Uh the insult for these films is coming from that they suck balls and come from the T2 and Aliens guy. It's like seeing Gunn make Superman after Guardians of the Galaxy. Uh yeah, I mean I I love Guardians of the Galaxy and everything. It's a good movie, but T2 and Aliens for the guy who made them to make Avatar is [ __ ] criminal. >> Yeah. >> They sold Spider into slavery, tried to kill him. He's had it rough, man. >> [laughter] >> You know, he's he's uh he's just trying to make things work, poor guy. These movies feel like movies that characters would see but never get depth because it's just filler like Angels with Filthy Souls in Home Alone. There's been this uh commentary where most of the films we see in mainstream media nowadays are the films that used to exist inside films. But like they're now our films and you know, it's just interesting to think about. Uh just FYI, Quaritch takes his loincloth off when he hooks up with fire lady. The hair is not the genitals. Uh but the the the problem is you could have both, I guess, with your hybrids or even with your daughter. There's a >> And also like, you know, James Cameron shows that when they connect the tentacle, they like orgasm. Like they do the [ __ ] >> No. >> The uh the Avatar movie explains that this is what happens. It's uh it is a canon event, unfortunately. You do like You connect your tentacles when you [ __ ] >> Sorry. Mated, meaning connected, not sex. I remember this coming up. People were very defensive over this. I was just like, "Listen, you have no problem with this when you disconnect from Avatar as like a personal identity thing. Don't worry about it. It is not a franchise worth getting invested in. You'll be fine." And honestly, you'll be better off considering bits and bobs like that. Avatar 1 was the >> It's like saying like, "You put Well, you know, when you put your tongue in someone's mouth, that isn't the act of sex." It's like, "Yeah, but it would be [ __ ] weird to do it if you weren't having sex." That's when they do it. That's what it's designed to do. It's It is a [ __ ] stick. That is what their hair is. >> Yeah, we have too much material, unfortunately, about what it does, so. Uh alien grape is okay because they're alien, James Cameron, probably. No, it's all seen as spiritual and whimsical and wonderful, so don't worry about it. What this movie uh was how shocked it was bad shocked how bad it was. Thought it would be bad, but not this bad. The film is cowardly with how it portrays the evil human crew of killed if the whale juice killed cancer ending wouldn't be heroic. It was bizarre. And again, a lot of people we end up talking about the film with like, "Yeah, I think I I am on the human side." It's like, "Whoops." I don't think that was supposed to be the point. Um Avatar 1 was the 3D need to buy a new TV orgasm. Avatar 2 was let us go and see what they have to offer. Avatar 3 was DOA. Well, you know, there you go. Makes more sense that the hair is actually an Eywa parasite used to mind control them and control the world. Would explain why it insta kills. Oh, yeah, there's that, too, isn't there? >> Yep. >> Um instead of mated, we call them butt buddies. All right. More easy to him. Uh what is YMS's opinion on the hair connection thing with animals? I would rather not know. So the air the hair connection is more like the VR glasses in Demolition Man. They also use them during fun times. I suppose uh an angle is is just yeah, it's an extra thing to do extra things with. Why the [ __ ] would you want to live on Pandora? Well, a lot of people think it's very beautiful, but at the same time it's pretty [ __ ] dangerous, you know. >> It is. And then obviously their justification in movie is that well, the Earth is dying. I was like, yeah, but there are [ __ ] how many tens of billions of other planets? If you can make it to this one, surely you can find one that isn't ruled by a mushroom parasite god. There must be some. But then it does have unobtainium on it and immortalizing Val Braker, so. >> Uh Quaritch is John Walker. Okay. >> Yes. >> I'm not going that far. John Walker's like a good man through and through. Quaritch at certain points could be considered that, but it depends cuz I don't like him as much in two or three as I do in one. >> Well, that's because ironically he becomes more like a Smurf. >> Right. >> the movie wants you to think the more he like like the more like a Smurf he becomes the more good there is in him. But actually for any sensible audience member, the more like a Smurf he becomes the more evil he becomes. So he's best in the first movie because that's when he's what the movie considers to be bad. >> Mhm. I'm behind, but I can't believe the Eywa hatred. She didn't knock up a corpse. That's not possible. She just knocked up a coma patient. >> [laughter] >> Can't believe the lies you people spread. Disgusting. She knows about the IFF because she raped the dead fire Smurf. It's so simple. Oof. Avatar is stupid. Humanity creates a fully functional clone of an alien species that's cybernetically controlled by human, but they don't uh they do not alter humans to function on the planet as super soldiers. Uh it's hard to reconcile a lot of the different advances and then not advances in that franchise. >> Yeah. Uh, does the space killdozer have a -10 penalty against basements? I don't know. Maybe it does. The only reason the great whales aren't extinct realistically is because we found petroleum in the ground. >> Oh, so yeah, we didn't need that oil. >> on Earth. >> Right. >> So. >> Because because of the the blubber. >> Blubber. Oh, [ __ ] she's going to be the avatar of what's if A is avatar. Yeah, probably. There's only one avatar and it's called Aang and it's a great show. There are no other movies or shows. Haha. Honest hatred the Hated the first movie because it made no sense. Not even going to spend my time watching the other two, but hearing you guys for hours of course. jpeg. Well, we didn't cover Avatar 1 or 2. We kind of nuked the whole set and the once the third one was out and I guess we'll Who knows what will happen in future, but I mean I would be curious how it ends, you know, Avatar. Just on a broad uh, broad strokes sort of thing. >> I just might be how it ends cuz I mean that's what Cameron said is this is technically the end of the first Avatar saga and they will do two more beginning a new story if they can find ways of doing it quicker and much cheaper. >> But a lot of that. >> Some people say tree bark, but they obviously don't. Haha. Cuz tree don't tree don't bark at all. Lies. Eywa, destroy my Destroy my enemies and my life is yours. >> [laughter] >> Well, it's just the payoff in like all the movies every time. Uh, Quaritch. So, this is this is his quote. Look at you, Jake. Now look at me. Better soldier, better Na'vi, better father, and still a human to my core. You abandoned your people for blue cat tail and for what? You're a failure. Now fight. Certainly more likable than Jake. Everyone would agree with that. Orange, no matter what. James Cameron dialogue is as bad as David Milch's is good. Oh, okay. Yeah. Just can see what he's saying there. I'm so glad you guys brought Petunia to the main cast. He brings a certain je ne sais quoi to the show, which was very French of him. >> Then you fundamentally misunderstood a core aspect of my being. I am not French and I never will be. >> And never will be. >> [laughter and gasps] >> Minions has a larger cultural footprint. Yes. That's Yeah, that's true. >> It definitely does. >> Internal logic is subjective except for my interpretation. Big ideas. Yeah, Big Ideas had a lot of big ideas, man. Um Then if you look up the writers for James's films, it would explain a lot. Yeah, I mean, but his his sense of abilities broadly have changed as well. Like uh you can just and whatever he had, he's lost, unfortunately. I don't know how else to say it. Uh E Fab 364's Pokémon entry of the day is uh a fella older Sealeo who uh notes its habit of juggling new objects includes uh sometimes a Spheal on its nose. And uh describes using its nose to check the smell and texture of unfamiliar items. >> Yeah, that's the evolution of a of of Spheal fella. >> Yeah. Which I guess makes sense for the continuity, but Yeah, I uh I mean, I like him. He seems cool. >> Yeah, I like him. I just don't like him as much as uh stage one. >> Yeah. Yeah. And then we got our uh 365 entry, which is the the the uh further evolution, I guess. The uh Walreins two massive developed tusks can totally shatter blocks of ice weighing 10 tons with one blow. This Pokémon's thick coat of blubber insulates it from sub-zero temperatures. >> I think he's my least favorite of the three. >> Yeah, I definitely prefer the other two more than him. >> Something been lost. >> Yeah. For sure. Um then we have uh the one I have a model of the whenever, Lord of change of the Centaur armies. Uh fakey fat fans will say it's Fringy's great granddad. He's a frog, remember? Well, >> What? It's >> Uh >> It looks like a shark. >> Yeah, maybe I have the wrong image, but this is what came up, so. I mean, he looks kind of cool, though. >> Yeah. >> Kind of horrifying, you know, as you do. Um and we've got the LEGO piece of the day is the red herring. Look at this. That was fun. Um >> Yeah. >> It's a normal fish piece, but red. Came with the noir detective character who was entirely grayscale. Yeah, that's cool. I like it. >> That's clever. >> Uh ooh and then we have our extinct animal of the day, which is the Picasso moth, which is also known as the Baorisa hieroglyphica. >> He's cool. >> Yeah. Some wacky colors. I guess he's extinct. How unfortunate. Um and then the other extinct animal is the Zif- Zifac- tinus, Zifac-tinus, the bulldog fish. Make me think of Iron Lung. >> Mhm. He's scary. >> So, he's out there somewhere. Um and then yeah, we got a the swimming cap is is a LEGO piece of the day. The Spider-Man eyes printed on it. Clever way of doing that. Well, so Oh, wait. That didn't come out for you guys. Hang on. I guess the question for me is like, wait, it ended up this way because it was a piece of a Spider-Man set or because they just didn't know what eyes to put on it. >> [laughter] >> I don't know. Well, anyway, yeah, that's it. Um and then farewell and adieu to you fair fleemish masses. Farewell and adieu you masses of fleem. That's the messages. Thank you all so much for sending them in. We appreciate it. But for now, we're going to say goodbye to the peep. Cheerio. >> See you later everybody. Bye-bye.