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Drone Threat: What the Gov't Isn’t Telling You About Foreign Espionage and UAPs | Andrew Bustamante

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Andrew Bustamante addresses a critical disconnect in media coverage regarding drone sightings over the Northeast, arguing that legitimate reports of foreign espionage are being obscured by widespread false positives from civilian aircraft and amateur operators. He clarifies that while there is truth to public concerns about drones appearing near military bases like Ramstein Air Base in Germany, Langley AFB in Virginia, and locations in the UK, these incidents often involve standard FAA-configured private planes or helicopters misidentified as unmanned aerial vehicles due to a lack of technical knowledge among observers. However, he emphasizes that significant threats do exist, citing specific reports from November 2019 involving swarms of military-style, fixed-wing drones operating without lights and transmitting radio signals reserved for satellite technology. These autonomous systems can loiter at high altitudes above the clouds for days, collecting infrared imagery and signals intelligence far beyond the range capabilities of commercial or hobbyist drones. The core argument presented is that these foreign intelligence collection platforms pose a genuine national security risk comparable to the 2023 China spy balloon incident, yet they are often dismissed by the public as mere UFOs or aliens due to government messaging designed to maintain calm and prevent panic. Bustamante explains why shooting down such unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP) is problematic; detonating them over populated areas like Baltimore could cause casualties while destroying critical technology that adversaries have deployed for industrial, corporate, and governmental espionage against the United States. Furthermore, he notes that current counter-drone technologies rely on specific parameters regarding altitude, speed, and aperture settings which adversaries can exploit by mimicking these profiles to evade detection systems, effectively turning defensive measures into opportunities for further intelligence gathering if not carefully managed. Bustamante delves into the strategic reasoning behind government secrecy, suggesting that acknowledging a threat immediately informs both the public and the adversary simultaneously, thereby negating any protective benefit. He draws parallels between state secrets and business trade secrets, asserting that there is no advantage in revealing what military units are actually seeing or how they operate to foreign powers. This stance extends to his personal experiences with racial profiling during his time at the CIA; he argues that while such practices violate privacy norms for ordinary citizens, individuals who understand intelligence operations can accept these intrusions because ruling out innocent parties helps identify actual threats hidden among good people doing bad things. He maintains that there is always a valid reason to keep certain secrets intact until technology evolves to allow informing American citizens without simultaneously alerting hostile entities. The discussion concludes with Bustamante expressing frustration over the unified government narrative that dismisses these aerial incursions as harmless, which he views as an attempt to bury inconvenient truths under layers of chaos and sensationalism about aliens or Kardashians. He highlights how this approach leaves Americans vulnerable by preventing them from understanding the reality of foreign surveillance capabilities while simultaneously protecting those very capabilities from being compromised through public scrutiny. Ultimately, he challenges listeners to consider whether they are comfortable with a government that prioritizes secrecy over transparency when facing existential threats, noting that until better identification technologies exist, maintaining these secrets remains a necessary, albeit uncomfortable, strategy for national defense against sophisticated foreign adversaries adapting faster than current detection methods allow.
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so you you mentioned drones and I want to I want to talk about this because I've been disappointed by the coverage in the Press about the drones over New Jersey the drones over the Northeast the the only reason this wasn't earlier because I'm glad we're talking about it only reason it wasn't earlier is by the time this airs I hope we know what these are uh so yeah but say more so it okay so when we talk about the drones that are happening right now over the northeast or the drones in recent history over the Northeast y there are two things happening simultaneously but they're not being differentiated in the Press first there are legitimate reports of drones operating over areas of interest in Germany in the UK in military bases on the East and the West Coast going all the way back to 2019 whoa all the way back to 2019 reported by the US military reported and investigated by the FBI I've been called in to do investigations to support both to help them try to understand what they're seeing when the military talks about drones they're not talking about what the [ __ ] media is showing on TV a military drone does not have generally four propellers a green light and a red light a front white light and a top white light that flashes that's not a military drone that's a civilian drone or that's an airplane or that's a helicopter that's all standard FAA lighting configurations so yes there is truth to the current reports and the recent reports that say the majority of ident the majority of drone sightings are are what we call false positives right it looks like a drone it sounds like a drone because it's coming from somebody who has no [ __ ] idea what a drone looks or sounds like they're actually seeing a private Cessna at 2,000 ft that sounds like a lawn mower and has all the right lighting configuration not a drone right but the reports that the military has seen over Ramstein over the UK BAS over Langley Air Force Base in Virginia the most significant sighting of all happened in 2019 was a swarm of between 75 and 150 drones that are military style drones think about your Reaper right fixed Wing blacked out no lights moving at more than 100 miles an hour in swarm configurations that fly over an area of interest and then fly back right we're talking about a normal drone has a range of 30 miles 70 miles maybe a commercial drone a Reaper has ranges in the thousands of miles right they have drones for the US military that are recharged by sunlight so you just launch that son of a [ __ ] above the clouds and it can go on for days and it can just loiter wow and it can collect infrared it can collect signals intelligence it can collect whatever and then it can fly back what the military has reported going back to November of this year is those drones blacked out drones not operated by a man pilot operating on code and signals and transmitting a radio signal that's usually reserved for satellite technology but coming from the air from the space above our heads that's what they're talking about that's what's in Virginia that's what's in California that's what's in Maryland that's what's been reported multiple times over that has never really made headlines because of the way the media works not it's not government controlled but media just does do care about actually interesting things they care about what's happening with the Kardashians yeah so there are real drones that are really suspect that are really being collected by the military and then there's Tom Dick and Nancy your dumb voter out there with a [ __ ] camera out there with a camera who are capturing air traffic and Reporting it to the police and the police don't know what the [ __ ] to do with that so now you're burying the real Intel in all this chaos right FBI has known and they've been investigating through the increasing UAP research groups that have been funded by DOD and funded by the Congress they've been researching what these things are because it's scary it's actually scary it is a legit foreign intelligence collection platform very similar to the China spy balloon in 2023 it's a capability that exists it exists for us too no everybody's known we've had that drone capability since the global war on terror but others are producing the same capability and nobody knows what to do with it so there's two things happening the media only talks about the first and the more that I see reports from people saying oh it's just it's just residents reporting on air traffic that's not completely incorrect but they're glazing over the fact that this whole thing started when the UK reported drones that had no lights and transmitted radio signals flying over American military bases in the UK that's where this started on November 20th it wasn't December 1st when there was December 5th there's a Manhunt for Luigi mangion the guy who shot Brian Thompson from United Healthcare there's a Manhunt happening for him on the northeast guess what it includes drones so the skies above New York and Pennsylvania and Maryland light up with drones at the same time that the police are reporting that they're on a Manhunt using drones I'm not surprised here folks of course you're seeing drones overhead but don't don't lose the signal in the noise so what do you think it is I think that there's a foreign intelligence collection happening against the United States that has been happening against the United States but that is now at risk of coming to light so that's why you see a unified messaging from the US government that says you don't have to worry because they know they can't do anything about it why can't they shoot them down what happens if you shoot down a drone over a populated city like Maryland like Baltimore uhhuh uh meaning it'll crash on the city so what do you think Americans are going to accept a lie from the federal government saying they don't have to worry or five people dead because it crashed into an apartment complex but it gave them a chance to collect the technology that was out there no not only that but when you shoot it down some point it has to go back to wherever it came from why not track it that's what they're doing if you shoot the [ __ ] down you can't track it back they're collecting information about how the SAT how they communicate with each other they're tracking the locations they're tracking the altitude they're tracking the distances what people don't understand is that all the technology out there from from missile Shields to counter uas technology it has parameters you don't just look at everything happening in the sky you have to tell things what aperture to look at what altitude to look at what time of day what speed like you have to you have to give parameters to the tool so if you tell the tool to look at 5,000 ft anything moving faster than 100 miles hour something could be moving less than 100 milph and not trigger the system our adversaries know that and the [ __ ] adversaries know exactly what our settings are because that's why they've been committing industrial Espionage and corporate Espionage and government Espionage for the last 30 years against us so this is their chance to see if we pick them up if we don't pick them up and the United States always has the opportunity to just call it a UFO or a UAP again I'm not making this [ __ ] up if you just look at look at the news reporting the week before the China spy balloon and look at the news reporting for about the next two months after the China spy balloon there were UFOs in the sky until we said oh actually it's a Chinese spy balloon then people lost their [ __ ] we blew up the Spy balloon and then guess what there were three more balloons that flew overhead over the next three months what' we call them UFOs and we didn't budge from that they're just UFOs we don't know what they are folks they're just UFOs and the UFO Community was like oh there's aliens visiting us the government was just like America can't handle if we tell them it's another it's spy balloon and then the government shot down science balloons from like what was it the University of uh Auburn and somebody else they were shooting down science balloons because the technology that we had couldn't identify the payload on the balloon like the government is not as well equipped as we all think it is it's not Mission Impossible it's not James Bond it's always adapting to what the adversary is throwing at us and the adversary is always adapting to what we're not looking for right so swarms of of UA of UFOs of uaps of uas whatever they want to call them now swarms of drones flying on the outskirts of American airspace making incursions and excursions collecting what they can from signals intelligence imagery analysis infrared technology collecting everything they can autonomously flown using only sat why would they use satellite radio signals because guess what they're communicating with satellites to get back to their home station because you don't even need groundbased relays if you have something flying high enough at altitude we've known this in military circles we've known this in intelligence circles we've known this in open source circles for a long time it's just never made mainstream news now that it has started to make mainstream news your dumb voter has intervened and has buried the story which is very convenient to what the government needs to be able to get out of this wow that is uh very shocking that we would rather be aliens than uh foreign intelligence why is that shocking why is that shocking though think about it if you know that it's a foreign adversary over your head that scares the [ __ ] out of you when you know when you believe it's an alien overhead you're mixed could be hopeful could be bad could be neutral we want to feel safe that's [ __ ] that's actually [ __ ] I'm very angry right now it really does make me um feel like we're not doing the right thing if we're not addressing it I do default to keep the public informed I know though that that's naiv at scale and so I want to acknowledge that but what what is the play here I think the play is wise unfortunately and I don't have many me keep lying to the to the public wow and I mean hate me if you want to hate me but the truth is when you keep the secrets you have the power you can always release a secret but you can't ever put it back in its box so if you have secrets keep them it's why business owners know this instinctively you don't tell your competition your secret sauce there's no benefit to you in doing that the federal government knows there's no benefit in telling the people the public what they're actually seeing in the sky there's a benefit in telling them what the public is seeing in the sky but there's no benefit in telling them what they the military and the government are actually seeing in the sky that is worth further research because when you acknowledge a secret yes you tell the public which you may have a responsibility for but you also tell the adversary and if you're trying to protect the public you can't tell the adversary so until we have some kind of technology that lets us inform American citizens but not inform everybody else we have to keep the secret yeah okay uh I get that I need to think through it more to have an official opinion but when we're seeing them sort of nakedly out in the open God continually lying to the public anyway I'm gonna plant a flag in that as something I need to contend with in my own mind and I think it's a good flag to plant I think we should all be flagging ourselves to say are we comfortable being lied to I am comfortable being lied to my time in the government my time at CIA made me very very comfortable with being racial profiled it made me very comfortable with not having the levels of privacy that we're all told we have it made me very comfortable with the government keeping secrets from me because I can see the benefit for me in all three of these areas that isn't just blind ignorance like racially profile me absolutely I'm a brown guy with black hair I got a shady ass looking you don't know whether I'm [ __ ] Palestinian or Israeli or Sunni or Shia or or Indian you don't know what I am so pull my ass over let me show you my driver's license because I'm [ __ ] American it's going to be a five-minute inconvenience to me and then I'm done and especially if it's like a local cop if I live in a place where there's only 12 or 15 cops of police me anyways they all know who I am and then they stop suspecting me of being whatever the [ __ ] they think I am because they know what I am I have zero problem with me being racially profiled I understand if other people don't like it you want to listen to my phone calls you want to read my emails go right ahead cuz you know what I'm not doing cheating on my taxes cheating on my wife or stealing from my own company not doing it so you're going to waste your time but you're also going to confirm that I'm not the suspect you're looking for somewhere out there there are bad people doing bad things disguising themselves as good people doing good things you're never going to find them unless you have a chance to rule me out so I'm completely okay with that and now that I've been part of CIA and I've seen the secrets that we have to keep not just from ourselves but also from other intelligence agen when there's a spy at NSA you can't tell NSA who you suspect their spy to be you have to tell FBI so FBI can look into it because if you tell NSA it might leak back to that person there's always a reason to keep a secret and I benefit when the government keeps the right Secrets when the government's keeping secrets because they're inefficient or or uh corrupt or uh or whatever incompetent that's a whole different story but I still understand the value of Secrets if you like this conversation check out this episode to learn more let me ask the movie Leave the World Behind 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