Drake Ain't Tricking, Forbes Top Podcast Earners & Chasing Growth Not Clout
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The podcast segment opens with a deep dive into relationship dynamics, where hosts debate whether modern women should seek partners who are already established and mentally healthy or remain in casual "career boyfriend" arrangements without clear intent for marriage. This discussion contrasts contemporary expectations of financial independence against historical precedents where couples built stability from scratch, while also addressing the public perception of high-profile figures like Drake. In his recent birthday stream event involving significant giveaways, Drake faced backlash that some interpreted as genuine trickery; however, hosts argue these actions reflect a pop-star persona and character rather than transactional motives. The conversation further touches on industry dating patterns, noting how women who date multiple powerful men are often judged negatively unless they possess equal wealth themselves, alongside defenses of artists like Usher Raymond IV whose stage presence is mistaken for arrogance.
Shifting focus to business infrastructure, the hosts analyze the absence of Black women from Forbes' top podcast earners list, attributing it not to race but to a lack of diversified revenue streams and massive audience numbers compared to peers. They highlight that true monetization requires owning intellectual property, securing licensing deals like those for *The Breakfast Club*, selling merchandise, and hosting live events rather than relying solely on ad reads or platform cuts. Candace Owens is cited as an example of high download metrics being excluded due to advertiser hesitancy regarding her controversial persona, underscoring the challenges in building sustainable business models beyond viral fame. This section also covers personal pivots, such as Taylor's move from shock jockery to substantive content after hitting a professional glass ceiling, and promotes upcoming events including mental health expos and new book releases from Black Privilege Publishing.
The dialogue then transitions into broader themes of integrity versus chasing clout, with hosts emphasizing that a valuable voice stems from admitting mistakes and maintaining authenticity rather than seeking constant validation. This leads to contentious debates on gender identity in sports, where both agree biological men should not play women's leagues but clash over transgender inclusion based on self-identification versus athletic fairness. The group also critiques racial stereotypes within social media culture, contrasting Jewish communal cooperation with internal conflicts often monetized by algorithms under the framework of technofudalism. Personal anecdotes regarding infidelity reveal differing perspectives on loyalty and forgiveness, while reflections on past TV dominance serve as a reminder that true legacy comes from building empires rather than fleeting viral moments. The episode concludes with lessons in metacognition to prevent acting on fleeting emotions before signing off as "Brilliant Idiots," wrapping up a conversation that balances personal growth with the harsh realities of modern fame and business ownership.
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Charlemagne the God. Uh, we are the
Brilliant Idiots podcast. My guy Andrew
Schoz is not here. Hezekiah Walker is
not here. He's filming a movie. Uh, Alex
is here. U Chris isn't here either.
Chris is um
>> Fire Island somewhere. I don't know.
>> Fire Island.
>> I saw Chris outside.
>> No, you didn't.
>> I swear to God, not outside of here, but
like outside in the Taylor Gang is here.
Uh, this woman who can't wait till she
gets introduced. Lauren [ __ ] Larosa.
LL K is here. They both trying to jump
me cuz I'm trying to tell them that they
>> No, because you wrong.
>> He's a grown You were a grown boyfriend.
You were the career boyfriend and
messing up at that.
>> Here's the difference.
>> Give us some context.
>> Me. Yes. We were talking about uh when
when a person should get engaged, when
they should get married, how soon after
they start dating. Me and my wife don't
count cuz me and my wife been together
since we was kids.
>> That doesn't
especially you from the south. In the
south they be married at like 19.
>> No, that was in the [ __ ] 70s. This is
the [ __ ] 2000s. Like, we had lives to
live. She went off to college. I went
off to do radio.
>> Why do you not think that
there's lives to live still?
>> Cuz y'all are almost 40. Y'all know
y'all premenopausal like a [ __ ]
Okay, now you don't count Taylor. And
Taylor, I don't even know why you
jumping in this conversation cuz you got
your fiance. You got your fiance, you
got your fiance, you got your baby,
y'all got a wedding date set. I ain't
got no problems with Capital P. Shout
out to Capital P. But all the other
boyfriends that's just boyfriends,
I'm like this.
>> But you know what?
>> I'm like THIS. AND I PUT PRESSURE ON ALL
OF THEM. And there's the difference. I
can tell when guys are really serious.
>> How can you tell when you've never even
had a real conversation with them?
>> I can just tell
>> cuz I wouldn't mind the pressure if you
like knew him. There was a relationship.
It's like you don't know nothing at all.
>> Probably cuz you still move single.
>> DO I DO I MEAN, I didn't want to say it,
BUT SINCE SHE PRESSURING ME, CUZ I don't
She's right. I don't want to put it all
on, homie. You know what I mean? That's
what it is.
>> You know damn well that's a lie. The way
I talk, everything about me is so
different than when you met me. You
didn't really know. You didn't know me
when I was single.
>> Yeah, but I mean, the way you move
online, it don't look like you have a
boyfriend. That's what I'm saying.
>> Don't look like you have a boyfriend the
way you move online.
>> Why? Why? Because I don't post him.
>> You don't even do the soft launch [ __ ]
where you show the hand or none of THAT
[ __ ]
>> THAT'S WHY I KNOW YOU DON'T FOLLOW his
[ __ ] I DIDN'T SEE THAT.
THE HAND WITH THE WATCHES AND ALL THAT
have been happening for about a year
now. I actually just I actually just
like lowkey posted them because he just
opened up his lounge in Dumbo. That's
where I saw Chris at. I was he was at
the lounge. I low key just kind of
posted.
>> What I saw was a I saw the balloons that
said uh do we go together or some [ __ ]
like that which was so crazy. Flew her
all the way out the country went out of
the country to go [ __ ] ask to go
together. So they go together.
>> I ain't seen no hand.
>> It was a relationship proposal.
>> Yes. He couldn't propose with the ring.
See what I'm saying?
>> What?
>> That's crazy.
>> Step back. How long were you a
boyfriend?
>> Uh, a year.
>> We right on track. WE'RE NOT JOKING.
>> WE'RE RIGHT ON TRACK. ONLY
>> we were engaged after a year.
>> You don't have either because her She's
not black.
>> Okay. Yeah, cuz then cuz then there's
that.
>> Why we going to do that? Because No,
that's true.
>> She's Spanish.
>> Oh, yeah. I mean, you don't want
>> I'm half Puerto Rican.
>> Exactly. He's not Spanish. I was going
to say you don't want to get cut, but
you know. not Puerto Rican.
>> But I'm saying that you know you're
right, Lauren. I don't want to put it
on, homie, cuz it's really you. Like you
you don't like y'all not like a y'all
not like sneakers. You're not like this
is a pair of sneakers. Alex got on a
pair of sneakers. Taylor got on a pair
of sandals.
>> See one sneaker, but it's not that. See,
like you don't even have it down. Even
though you're wearing a pair, you don't
have it down. Shut up.
>> You move like 10 toes down. She only
five toes down. So that's
>> you can't even like it's not even in
your demeanor. You move like a
>> you like a Lucy.
>> You know what I'm saying?
>> Like a like a Lucy FROM A PACK OF THAT'S
TYPE OF PACKAGE. DON'T DO THAT.
>> NOW YOU MOVE LIKE A LUCY.
>> NO. NO, I don't.
>> You don't think she Lucy energy?
>> I play that song though.
>> What's the name of it?
>> There's a song called Lucy.
>> I never heard of it.
>> Taylor Lucy energy.
>> Taylor, you were there in my single time
when I first got here to New York.
>> Night and day.
>> No, it's not.
>> I was there, too. Ain't [ __ ] changed.
>> No.
>> Even the way I speak today. You asked me
something about uh men or somebody asked
us something on on the show about what
have men brought me in our like early
stages of I didn't even want to comment
on that. The old me we would have
stories for days like we be up there
kik.
>> Well no you don't like you you are I
call you I call you lying Lar Roa cuz
you have lying tendencies but you know
when not to lie. You didn't want to lie.
You know ain't nobody ever bought you
[ __ ]
>> That's just the reality of the
situation.
>> That's just the reality of the
situation.
>> I can't talk about [ __ ] from the past.
That's nothing wrong with that. can, but
I just feel like certain times it's just
like I mean like it's just why like it's
just not needed. It didn't take me
talking about somebody something that
I've got in the past for the
conversation to go on. Didn't have to
before.
>> Were there things to talk about?
>> She ain't never got nothing.
>> Oh,
>> come on, man. She from Delaware.
>> This is this is a this is a a like
>> this is a
>> it's a topic that
>> No, it's not. I JUST KNOW YOU AIN'T
NEVER GOT NOTHING.
>> It's a sore spot a little bit.
>> What's a sore spot?
>> She never got nothing.
>> Yeah, it's fine. We can move on. We can
move. Taylor, you got topic right now
buying rice and beans and you'll get
back. Please, please.
>> Like you like cuz you like I can tell
you like was a late bloomer. Like you
just started to glow, you know?
>> Oh, no, no, no. Been that girl. Period.
>> No, no. I'm not saying that you didn't
have the confidence.
>> No, no, no. I had the confidence. I had
the looks. I had It was all It's always
been there.
>> I'm not saying you didn't have the
>> I've always been treated like her. So,
wherever you about to go now, you going
in the car by yourself.
>> I don't know her.
>> Her.
>> I don't know if it was her.
>> Capital H E R. Okay. Matter of fact, put
some dots in between because I really
was like flexing it for I don't know if
you was her.
>> Yeah. Like it's it's been a noticeable
glow up.
>> You see what I'm saying? Not even
noticeable.
>> But the glow might have been but it
wasn't no pronoun after like you might
have like you might have been but you
wasn't a HER. I DIDN'T I DIDN'T HAVE A
THEY THEM. THAT'S YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN.
There was no pronoun after the
>> My point is is that where I'm at right
now, I don't have anything to prove. And
certain conversations, I just feel like
it don't take me to be in it. And I'm
totally okay with that.
>> That don't have nothing to do with the
fact that you are not engaged. Okay.
>> I will be though.
>> I hope so. I will be.
>> I just don't respect it till it's
engaged.
>> I'll be engagement.
What does you respecting it look like?
>> A little I have a little bit more
respect, but then I have I need to see
the wedding date. You know what I'm
saying?
>> Oh, no, no, no. It's very clear. Don't
engage me without a wedding date.
>> Yes, wedding day got to come.
>> I'm not a grown I'm not a grown
>> Jayla got engaged. She had a wedding
girlfriend and I'm not a career fiance.
>> I just left a wedding. My good sister,
you know what I mean? And engagement was
last year.
>> Engaged for
>> not even a year.
>> Okay. What age did you get did you
propose?
>> Exactly.
>> It was 2014.
>> It was like 30.
>> 2014.
>> Yeah. No, I got time in 2013.
>> That's over a decade ago.
>> You did like a year before I came.
>> I proposed 2013 and got married in 2014.
So, you were like 35.
>> I don't even remember.
>> 3.
>> I'm bad with that type of [ __ ] but
>> I bet you were like 2013.
>> I'm 48 now. So,
>> do the math.
>> Okay. Grown ass boyfriend. Was people
telling you that we're It doesn't matter
if y'all were together. HONESTLY, YES,
IT DOES. It doesn't. That actually makes
it worse. You didn't have to get to know
certain things as much as me meeting a
person that I am dating newly.
>> I'll tell you the difference. Number
one, we were kids. Then, we were trying
to figure life out. So it's like we
didn't have no money or anything like
that. We didn't have no stable place to
stay. If I I lived in an apartment
sometime in Colia, she never she would
stay with me for a little while and go
get her own spot cuz she got her own
independence. And it's always been like
that until I finally got into a position
where I'm like, you know what, I can
hold it down for me and my family.
Y'all,
>> y'all two don't have that excuse. Your
man got loins that he opening up. Okay,
>> lounges.
Your man GOT YOUR MAN GOT THE WORD. MAN,
DON'T LET IT GO.
>> MAN GOT LO that he opening up.
>> I I was texting like he's he's opening
his lounge this weekend in New York. And
then I put Loins on accident. He won't
let go.
>> He's opening his opening loins this
weekend.
>> Yo, that's great.
>> He got money.
>> Oh, so they both outside moving single.
>> You I was going to say she out here
getting money.
>> Now would be the perfect time for y'all
to link up and grow even more together.
>> That's what we going to tell. That's
what we're doing.
>> We'll see. I'm not here to hate on it.
I'm just telling you that I'm going to
hate on it until it happens.
>> Do you drink at weddings?
>> Oh, yeah. I was I got
>> And you just be talking, huh?
>> Yeah. Yeah. I had
>> I don't know if I can want you coming.
>> Ball this I had a ball this weekend.
>> I used to want you on the guest list,
but if you going to be drinking and
talking pissing me off this weekend
worried about him saying,
>> he just be, you know, he be making stuff
up and just talking.
>> I had a ball this weekend.
>> He don't make nothing up. What does he
ever make up ever?
>> I don't make up [ __ ] That's your
problem. Y'all know I don't make up
[ __ ] I just say what the [ __ ] is going
on. You literally be saying, "Believe me
when I'm lying."
>> That's not making up.
>> That's me telling you I'm lying. Okay.
>> I had a ball this weekend. We had a I
love weddings, man. Weddings make me
feel good. Weddings make me feel so
good. Weddings are so incredible.
They're such joyous occasions. I love
seeing
>> that union.
>> You know what I mean? And this wedding
was different cuz I just, you know, I
just really saw how
>> What was he doing? You said from the
beginning you knew that he was serious
about her.
I don't know. It's just the energy. It's
just the way a person moves when they
with their significant other. You can
already see them as a unit. Like they
already blend. Like they're already
together. Like when I see P and Tai,
they're a unit.
>> You know what I'm saying? Like I'm
saying two a pair.
>> You know what I mean?
>> Yeah.
>> I don't like y'all look like the number
10. Like you tall and stop. We're going
TO DARLING. LIKE YOU'RE out of control.
>> Control. Let's go.
>> I mean, number 10 is a nice looking
number.
>> Don't start because he walk around with
security. YOU DON'T MY MAN. I'mma let
him GO CUZ HE DESERVES TO.
>> He is. What we talking about, man? What
we got? All means necessary.
>> Oh my gosh. All right.
>> Oh, I missed this topic. I ain't talk
about this this week. I wasn't on I
wasn't on Breakfast Club Monday when
y'all spoke about this. What was the
Drake screen? What was the problem?
>> Oh god.
>> Oh, we did talk about it a little bit.
>> A little bit. Um, well, it was 3 hours.
>> When you went Did you watch all three?
No. I could I I I literally
>> All three hours was the 20 v one thing
or it was just
>> No, no, no. It was like it was literally
a variety show. So, in the beginning, um
Drake, it was like it was very
cinematic, too. You remember how he was
doing all those Iceman videos? So, in
the beginning, it was like
>> just a setting and then Drake walks out
and he talks about how it's Stake's
ninth birthday. I think he said it was
ninth birthday or the anniversary. 9
years since they've been in business.
>> Oh, so it was the anniversary.
>> That's why he was doing it.
>> Oh, all right. All right. All right.
>> Yeah. So then they show this collage of
like videos of like all of Drake's like
best steak moments and like you know
like the things he's been able to give
away and do because he works with stake
in the brand. Then Benadon comes on
>> by the way. Very dope to be able to get
How much I saw it was like a million
dollars or something he gave away,
right?
>> He gave he did a million dollars to the
women. You talking about on the stream?
>> That's two different things.
>> How much did he give away on the stream?
I know he bought he bought a Birkin for
Jordan Lucas. That's way more.
>> I'm all for the I'm all for the charity.
I I like I like to see people giving
away things.
>> Yeah. So, they talked a lot about just
his experience with the brand.
>> He gave away 500,000
>> dope wagon.
>> That was But that was at the event for
the event for the ladies. I remember
talking about
>> Did he give away money on the stream?
>> Um
>> I know. So during
>> He did for the 20 v1.
>> During the 20 v one, he promised the
goth girl that he would buy her mom a
house.
>> That's how I knew that's how that stuff
like that just reminds me how white
Drake is. Like why you attractive to the
golf girl? Like why you bing barking at
the hot topics chick?
>> But who have we known Drake to date as
like a like a like black girl? Black
girl. Who was Drake with?
>> I mean no he's definitely been with some
black girl. I'm just saying like that
that's just a reminder of how white he
is.
>> He He was all He's still in love with
Rihanna.
>> Yeah. Come on.
>> But his baby mom is
>> so he just likes everything. What's
wrong with that?
>> THAT'S
>> THE GOLF GIRL THOUGH. HE likes
everything. I ain't never seen nobody
get bricked up over Wednesday Adam
streamer though
>> I guess. I don't know.
>> I mean a lot. Yeah, she's a popular
streamer. A lot of the Well, Jordan
Lucas, I knew who she was cuz she be
doing like interviews and stuff. So, a
lot of her interviews I be seeing like
she had one the remember Young Miami was
talking about how much money a man ever
spent on her. That was on Jordan Lucas's
stream.
>> I tell you this though, I think that uh
the backlash for this was kind of
stupid. I mean, but you know, it's just
like anything else.
>> There's going to be people that like
what you did and there's going to be
people that didn't like what you did.
And this, you know, that's just all it
is. People are the people that didn't
like it are expressing it.
>> It was for a certain audience.
>> I don't think it it's it's for Drake's
audience. If you like Drake, you
probably you love this.
>> I love I know Drake as an artist
>> that disses him.
>> I don't have an issue with Drake. But I
I didn't care for the I didn't care for
>> Chick had a barking though.
>> It was It was satire. He was being
funny.
>> I'm with you. But you The thing for me
is like um
Yeah. Drake done Drake Drake done ran
the gamut like he done been around like
you know you can't be barking for the
golf barking
>> for who? I don't know
>> the golf girl I bought bought for my I
only bought I would I bought for my
wife.
>> There you go.
>> Yeah, I bought my wife.
>> See, I correct.
>> I know. I just think I just think this
is this is a lot of unnecessary backlash
for nothing. Like I don't like Drake
being Drake.
>> Yo, her transformation is crazy. They
were showing old pictures of her and
like pictures of her nails.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> She is like a whole different person.
>> You can't believe that makeup [ __ ] That
makeup [ __ ] But also her body, she got
her body together, too.
>> But that's a lot of women. A lot of
women do that. But I mean,
>> the whole face, she looks like a
completely different person without the
makeup.
>> Yeah.
>> You wouldn't even be able to recognize
her without makeup.
>> Yeah. I mean, listen, and also too, I
think that we um we forget something
about Drake.
>> And it's something that Glasses Malone
has said for a long time, and there's a
lot of merit to it. He's a pop star.
>> This is [ __ ] pop stars do.
>> You know what I mean? And by the way,
hip-hop artists can do this, too. It's
not like it's not like people got to
take the self so serious, you know what
I mean? It's like hip-hop stars do funny
things in different ways. This is just
Drake's way of expressing his
personality, you know what I mean? And
and and and being the pop star that he
is.
>> But even when he did that commercial,
who was it? Was that KD the sneaker
commercial?
>> The guy hosted SNL, y'all.
>> But that's that's what this felt like.
Like it was very like satire. And also
too, I think Drake tries to not try, he
does like a lot of like the young new
youth culture things he done in a rap
where like a lot of artists you might
hear them first with Drake or see them
first with Drake. He's doing the same
thing to me in the stream world. It's
just
>> there's a certain point of it where I
think about like I don't know. I just
some of it I was like uh but you still
Drake though. Like
>> I think you got
>> an actor at the end of the day too.
Maybe it's hard for me to think about
him that way cuz I think about him like
rap Drake. Like I don't I
>> I'm going be honest with you. I don't
know why Drake don't get more in his
acting bag.
>> That's what I'm saying. Like I like
>> I'm shocked that he hasn't like leaned
all the way into something.
>> I'm surprised about that as well.
>> He's probably trying to do it through
this.
>> No, but he has the ability to do it
right now if he wanted to. Like I'm
surprised like
>> what was that saying?
>> He could have easily
>> he's making videos all the time.
>> When he was with when he was on Dave
that was hilarious.
>> There was that other show they had from
Canada that was funny. He had moments on
SNL that was funny. Like he's like I
don't know. I'm shocked he hasn't leaned
all the way into that bag.
>> He's over it though. He wants to want
me.
>> No, I think you can clearly see he still
loves it cuz he's doing stuff like this
and the commercials.
>> His personality. That's how I'm
assuming.
>> He plays into like he loves the
character like sketch vibe and I think
that's why he likes the streamer and the
internet community so much because they
freely do that.
>> Can I can I ask you how do women feel
about like the way he flaunts money and
like gives it out?
>> Oh, we Drake is very generous.
We love to see
>> that's not that's not corny to y at all.
>> No, I think with Drake the difference is
because there are men who lead money
first and it can be corny, but I think
with Drake it come he's he's charming
like it comes off like
>> he's not doing this cuz he's trying to
[ __ ] any of these girls.
>> Yeah, that's
>> he's doing it out of the goodness of his
heart.
>> Charlotte, I mean I'm sure he might
smash a couple but he seemed like he
genuinely like doing this type of [ __ ]
>> What's that song called? God
and he gave out all that money at his
birthday party. He gives out bags and
like he this is not new.
>> If you got a bunch of money, what are
you else you going to do?
>> BUT ALSO I WAS JUST curious
>> when you hear about him dating I forget
the woman um she was someone's mom but
remember he shut down Dodger Stadium
>> to take her out on a date.
>> Oh
>> when you hear about
>> that was different.
>> So don't be afraid to do something for
somebody. You know I was saying the
other night I hate the term tricking
because tricking tricking has a negative
connotation to it. like you're doing
something for somebody for something in
exchange.
>> Expectations in return. Yeah. Feel it.
>> It's just nice to make somebody else
feel good. Like, you know, like Jordan.
Jordan is such a bright spirit with so
much electric energy. And I just like
seeing her feel good. I like seeing all
these women feel good. Fill that bank
account up. It's always good to have
personal goals, but do something for
somebody else. You you might feel a
little more than strapping a watch to
your wrist or driving that new car,
moving into that new place.
>> Fly though, that's fire ain't
>> [ __ ] her.
>> I mean, he was if they were earlier,
>> girl, you argued with me earlier about
tricking and I was saying it ain't
tricking if she's worth it.
>> I didn't argue with you. I would never
argue against a man tricking. Y'all
should trick.
>> I was saying that if you're a man and
you're used to living a certain way,
there's things that you're going to do.
If I can afford to shut to shut down
Dodger Stadium and take you on a date,
I'm going to do that instead of taking
you TO NICE GUY.
>> WHAT I be trying to call out is the
hypocrisy because you'll say that, but
then when people are having a
conversation about women asking for
things, it's like if you ask for things,
you a bird. But it's like
>> the difference you're trying to make is
he just does it because he has
>> I'm doing it out the goodness of my
heart. This is the way I live. I asked
you on a date. I'm I'm the man and I
said, "Yo, you want to go out?" You say,
"Yeah, now I'm about to show you a good
time." That's the difference between you
coming to me saying, "WHY DON'T YOU SHUT
DOWN DODGER Stadium and set me up a
dinner and have me A PRIVATE CHEF AND
BUY ME A BURGER?"
>> BUT IF A woman is used to dating
Drakeesque men.
>> Oh, no. No, no.
>> Like, not Drake, right? But you're used
to dating. You can't be used to dating.
No.
>> I have friends that only date men of of
crobably. So, but they maintain
course. That's what I'm saying. Why are
they divorced?
Initially, I know I said probably some
opport
>> because listen, I'm going to tell you, I
want
>> No, that is hor.
>> I want all the women to understand this.
If you've ever dated
three men in the same industry, you're a
[ __ ] in said indust.
>> What if it's across industries, but it's
like same paper?
>> If you [ __ ] three football players,
trust me, you're known as a [ __ ] in the
NFL. If you [ __ ] three NBA players,
trust me, you're known as a [ __ ] in the
NBA. If you [ __ ] three rappers, trust
me, you're known as a [ __ ] in the
rapper industry.
>> Take the industries out of it. But what
if it's a woman who says, "I only want
to date men who can provide ABC, CC, and
D. No matter if you a doctor, a dentist,
or NFL player."
>> That's dumb though cuz the people get
down bad like,
>> and some women are okay.
>> But some women are okay with if I'm with
you, you get down bad, I got you.
>> You want no down bad [ __ ]
>> Exactly. Y'all, Y'ALL THINK PEOPLE WANT
THAT? Y'ALL, Y'ALL DO UNDERSTAND trauma
is real. Y'all understand energy
transfers? Do you understand projection?
I don't want no [ __ ] projected on me.
>> Keep that damn bad stuff to yourself.
>> That's not true, Charlotte. No, that's
not true.
>> Yeah, but men go pick women out of the
the crust crevices of nothing all day
long and build them up. Y'all, not
y'all. Let me not do you. Certain men
love that. So, I don't want to hear
that.
>> Yeah, I don't I don't agree with that.
We like there are women in this industry
that are down bad, but they get passed
around and those dudes love to flaunt
them for some reason.
>> You know how many girls in LA got
followers and don't got no babe.
>> That's what I'm saying.
>> And a man will get with a a rapper will
get with that girl, boss her up, let her
start her little online following, buy
her a bed, buy her the apartment, buy
her the car, and then run around on her
crazy because you can control her.
>> Name me one woman that has allegedly
been ran through in this industry who's
wifed up right now.
I
>> Why do those women have to be ran
through?
>> Name who?
>> I don't want to say that.
>> They say
>> no.
>> Yeah, they do.
>> She not wrong.
>> She not wrong. Look at that like she
stopped.
>> We got to cut out this whole section.
>> No, we believe her. We going to believe
the name she said. But that's not true.
That is very true.
>> Yeah. Why not name?
>> That's not true. You can How? You can
only name like one.
>> What? No.
industry. I ain't never heard that one.
>> They're kissing YOU. YOU REALLY SEE IT?
>> Never heard that one.
>> I'll be popping [ __ ] You ain't never
asked like, "Yo,
>> I don't talk to them like that." But
here's my thing.
>> Here's my thing.
>> That's just that whole
>> That only WORKS FOR HER.
YOU GOT TO BE A WOMAN that has more
>> than any guy you [ __ ] with to be able
to live that type of life. I mean, I
GUESS
>> YOU GOT TO BE A WOMAN THAT got
>> They're They're off limits.
>> THEY GOT MORE THAN THE GUYS THEY [ __ ]
WITH.
>> MAKING UP THIS RULE, THOUGH.
>> I'm not. I'm just telling YOU HOW IT
GOES.
>> GOT THOUGH.
>> NO, IT'S A IT'S IT'S A DIFFERENT POWER
DYNAMIC. change no matter. BUT WHEN SHE
WAS DATING BEFORE SHE GOT BEFORE she was
she was dating that guy with all the
money names. You got to believe these
names.
>> Names are
>> No, but that's not that's not the first
person that she talked about. But these
are just examples that all I'm saying.
What you're saying is the power dynamic
is different when the woman got more
than the man. And that's rare.
>> It's rare when the woman has more than
the man.
>> That is very true.
>> If you got less than the man and you got
[ __ ] by three people in the industry.
>> Very true.
>> Poor. Yep.
>> And by the way, I'm not saying I look at
it like that. I'm just saying that's how
people perceive you.
>> I will never argue against a man
tricking. I just think y'all be uh
hypocrites because it be like, "Yeah, we
trick when we want to and it's okay
depending on who the man is." Then on
the other hand, it's like if a woman
wants too much, she's a bird.
>> Here's the thing. A man that's spending
on you is not tricking. Especially if
the man already has money. That man is
still living a certain Exactly. That's
his lifestyle.
>> Why can't So then why be that? Why can't
she have the same?
>> That's my point. WHY SHE GOT BUT WHY
CAN'T she only date men who are used to
a certain lifestyle? Because she knows
what she expects.
>> Does she live that KIND OF LIFESTYLE?
>> YEAH. I I I NO. NO. NO. Let me tell you.
>> Can she live that lifestyle without a
man?
>> Yes. Let me tell y'all something right
now. None of my literally, I'm telling
you right now, none of my friends who
deal with men that do things for them
can't get it triple double on their own.
And I mean they own businesses, big
businesses, multiple cities, multiple
states, period. But they're not sitting.
I can show y'all something. them. Why do
you have to ask for it?
>> Because there are certain men who get
with you ask for what you ain't got.
>> There are certain There are certain men
that that
there's certain men that there there's
there's multiple reasons. Number one, if
you're a woman that has it, a man will
get with you and try to humble you by
not doing certain things. And then now
you got to ask. And
>> if you got it, you don't care. Here's
the thing. If you're a woman who
actually has it, you ain't looking for
nothing material from that man. The only
thing that man can provide you is actual
love and companionship. You ain't after
for nothing material.
It depends on the woman you're talking.
It depends on the woman you're talking
to. Cuz I know women that love their man
to death. And if that man ever fell, she
would pick them right back up. But when
they met, he was able to maintain the
lifestyle that she was providing for
herself. Period.
>> I promise you, if you are a woman, then
you got to throw a name out because
>> I can't. Y'all are going to know them.
They're regular people.
>> You ain't have no PROBLEM THROWING THEM
OTHER PEOPLE NAMES OUT.
>> THEY'RE NOT CELEBRITIES. If you are a
woman who has their own, you are not
looking for anything material from a
man. You're actually looking for love.
You're actually looking for real
companionship.
>> I agree. But for no,
>> at the same time though, you you
>> I don't even know the B. I don't even
know. I don't know you know to buy a
Birkin.
>> You would go to her.
>> I don't know. They sell that type of
[ __ ]
>> I personally don't like Birkens. They
like old grand bags.
>> My point is is that it's a lifestyle
thing. It's not like a you got to do
this, you got to do that. You know, a
lot of successful women, how many of
them, it's two sides of the coin. It's
like a lot of successful women will date
somebody with nothing because they don't
have a choice and they can't find nobody
else.
>> All the successful women I'm looking
for, you know what they want their man
to do? Be in therapy.
>> They want you to be a healed version. I
DON'T EVER HEAR ALL THE SUPER SUCCESS
ALL THE super successful women I know
who've actually done work on their I
promise you the conversation they have
with me is never about how much money he
got, what can he buy me. It's literally
like, "Is that [ __ ] in therapy? Is that
[ __ ] doing the work? If you're
calling your successful friend about
somebody, I guarantee you they're not
asking those questions because they're
they're they're like, "If Charlemagne is
calling me, that person is even if they
don't have all the money in the world,
he knows what I'm bringing to the
table." Like, I promise you that. But if
they were to meet somebody randomly off
the street, you going to want to know,
so what do you do for work? What is your
like these are
>> you trying to get to know somebody
though?
>> Yes. But you trying to get to know that
for a reason. You want to understand if
I'm doing this for myself, where do you
come into play? Even if you can't match
it, that's a normal conversation. That
doesn't burn.
>> Have you really looking for that nice
guy that can love you
>> and you're not asking for?
>> Uh yeah. No, there's
>> You only with your man cuz he got loins
his loins open.
>> No, I'm not only with him because of
that. But this time around when I was
dating, I did say to myself, I want
someone that is doing things for themsel
because I've dealt with someone who
didn't have a lot going on and it was
hell. So when you was two [ __ ] low
about a year ago
>> first of all a year
>> it was two [ __ ] low.
>> Give me at least like 2023.
>> It's 2026.
>> No. No. This was definitely 2024 early
2025. But when you was two [ __ ] low. So
>> what
>> both of these [ __ ] had something going
on. They both had
>> in this season of my life. I didn't deal
with anybody that couldn't meet me at a
certain point. And not even just
financially. Even if it was just like
what are you doing? Like what are you
what's what's your career path? Are you
passionate about something? those type
of people sit and think about therapy
and the type of person I want to be, the
type of parent I want to be, the type of
husband I want to be.
>> So, when you were dating the two dudes
that like both had something going on,
why did one dude win over the other
dude?
>> It might have been small things like
actual attraction or do I really see a
life with this person? Cuz also too,
>> it wasn't that one had more. Why don't
you just tell the truth?
>> No, it gets to a point where
>> somebody did win your heart.
>> You be because once you begin to become
intentional,
>> y'all play basketball against each other
late one night.
>> Once you become once you become intent
once you become intentional, you start
really thinking about like, "All right,
how was this person raised? What's the
family dynamic? What would my household
look like with this person? Can this Can
I sit back and shut up and let him lead
me? What's his vision for a Like?" It's
a lot that goes into it that it just
start dropping people off. Our
refrigerator stay empty though.
>> We don't live together.
>> Oh, y'all don't.
>> No, I thought that would be not even
>> I'm not moving in. I'm not moving in
with anybody until I'm married. I'm not
doing that again.
>> No, no, no, no.
>> We spend a lot of time. We spend we we
basically have our own separate places
and we split time. But I did that
before.
>> Do you women understand what they may be
giving to men?
>> I did that before my last relationship.
I won't do that again. Wait, wait. I
think you should live with the person
after you get engaged
>> because you need to try out the whole
living situation before.
>> I'm okay with doing that. And even right
now, like we do things where like we
might spend weeks together at his place
or weeks together at my place or maybe a
month or two. Like we experience being
together, living in a space, but I am
not moving someone in. We're not putting
names on leases. We not putting cars.
We're not doing none of that stuff until
I got something that's like solid. Like
it's not happening. Not doing that. I
made that rule for myself when I got out
of the election.
>> Let them sweat on you.
>> Yeah, but that's because I know
>> girls be letting guys sweat on them.
>> Attention and I know there be putting
their whole in their mouth. Sometimes
eating ass, but then it'll be like I
don't want to live with.
>> You don't think THAT [ __ ] CRAZY AS [ __ ]
NOW I AGREE THAT you shouldn't live with
him.
>> But I just want you to think about all
the other things you doing with this
man. If I got to pick and choose messing
it up for all the single guys out there.
>> If I got to pick and choose, we can stay
separate houses and
>> guys got to stop. But but I guess that's
what I'm really saying, man. Guys got to
stop playing, yo. Like, and I really
mean this. There's a lot of good women
out here.
>> Yeah.
>> And if you got a good woman, what are
you waiting for?
>> Oh, you think I'm a good woman?
>> Not really. But I'm trying to help you
out.
>> What are you waiting on?
>> I'm just saying like seriously like what
are you waiting on?
>> That's But y'all had to talk though,
right? I told you and me.
>> We came into it like it that was he was
like, "Yo, I know this, this, and this,
but here's what I'm on. This is what I
want. are you here? And I'm like, yeah.
Like,
>> listen, by the way, it can go either way
with you. Like, I can honestly be like,
all right, if he don't propose, I get
it. You know what I'm saying?
>> Shut up.
>> But if he do, I'll be like, "All right."
You know what I mean? If that's what you
really want to do with yourself,
>> I'm smack you with this water.
>> But I'm just telling you the truth.
>> I am somebody you don't want to lose,
baby. ANYBODY HAS EVER REASON I think
Lauren is remotely a good woman is
because of her mouth.
>> It has nothing to do with her. I promise
you, it's because her mom. She come from
good stock. All right. But her
>> I can't even say that about you. I don't
know.
>> Can I say something though?
>> Yes.
>> Like
>> I gota meet.
>> You guys talk about lot a lot about like
the materialistic stuff.
>> To me, I've never been a materialistic
girl. But I feel like people forget how
hard relationship could be when things
get bad though.
>> Yeah.
>> But but people like when you're saying
like I need a guy that has this, that,
and the third. Like people be forgetting
really what it is to stay in a
relationship. For me, for me, it's not
like, "Can you buy me this, can you buy
me that?" It It's always about like your
mentality. So, I've been in a very
long-term relationship. I've been where
things have gotten really, really bad.
And I was I felt like I was by myself in
that. So, that's why now it's like, "No,
I want a partnership." And my partner, I
want them to have a certain mentality
about I can get out of this even if I
can't or if I can't, I know how to
communicate with another person where we
can get out of this. But that's why your
own is important because you don't want
to become a dependent. Yeah.
>> Because then what if you have to be with
this person because they're funding your
lifestyle or paying your rent or your
mortgage.
>> I've never I've never experienced that.
Like I've always been a person that is
like making my own way. Have I had
people do things for me because they see
that and they like, "Yo, I want to help
out." Yeah, that's normally the case.
But I've never been a person that's been
solely just dependent on somebody. I
have friends that live that way
>> and some of them are loving it. Some of
them are not so happy and they are
figuring out other things.
>> How do you how do those birds feel that
you left in this?
>> But
>> I never was a bird.
>> All right, man. See, since we can't have
long honest conversations a bird of a
feather,
move on to another topic pissing me off.
I want your old pictures, Lauren.
>> I was not.
>> You might not have had a bird mentality,
but boy,
>> that's what they love though. It's like
when you get the middle point, it's like
she not a bird.
>> I a seen no middle point. I saw
>> always been a middle point. little point
right now.
>> You know when them [ __ ] be first coming
out the egg and that little head be
sticking UP AND THAT [ __ ]
>> THAT'S WHAT THE [ __ ] I saw. You used to
wear them overalls with them braids. God
damn.
>> Okay. Well, first of all, my braids were
>> What you laughing so hard for? You
didn't even know me.
>> But it seemed like he said something
truthful because your face showed
everything
>> because he just be talking. He just be
talking. My braids to this braid's fire.
Okay. It had nothing to do with being a
bird and I was not a bird.
>> All right, man. All right. Listen.
>> Just because a woman lay a black woman
lays her edges, she's a bird.
>> Your edges was NOT LAID.
>> MY EDGES WERE NOW. NOW WE TALKING.
>> NOW WE TALKING CRAZY. LAUREN, YOU KNOW
THESE PICTURES EXIST ONLINE.
>> I WILL SHOW YOU RIGHT NOW.
>> No growth and all.
>> That [ __ ] was crazy. That [ __ ] looked
like you used to get your hair braided
then brush it.
>> It was EARLY DAYS. YO, IT'S OKAY WHEN
YOU FIRST braids are supposed to give
Bohemian Pocahontas like it was given
that okay with the good hair.
>> Why is this a topic? Usher is going to
hold the
>> Did you see this?
>> No.
>> Really? So
>> him.
>> So look, don't the man work at the
store.
But you open you held the door so just
walk through it. Why you waiting for the
guy to come to hold the door while you
walk out? That's unnecessary. Usher.
>> Okay, I see what you Okay. He could have
just walked through.
>> He really could JUST WALK THROUGH.
>> NAH, [ __ ] ALL THAT, [ __ ] I'm Usher.
Nah, [ __ ] all that. Yo,
>> first of all, his name is Usher, so you
hold the door.
>> Listen, man. Let me tell you something
about Usher Raymond.
>> Usher Raymond IVth is one of the last
superstars left, okay? He's one of the
last people who still carries himself
like a superstar. Do you remember when
Mariah Carey came to the Breakfast Club
years ago with her own lighting team?
>> I wasn't there.
>> And Mariah Carey had her own lighting
team, set up the lights in the studio,
and then turned our lights down. And I
said, Mariah, we not going to be they're
not going to be able to see us. She
said, "That's the whole point, dog."
Okay.
>> I seen Usher walk in a room. This was
years ago at the heart rate music
festival. I seen Usha walk in a room
dancing
like, "OH SHIT." LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU
EXPECT TO SEE WHEN USHER WALK IN A ROOM.
>> IN FACT, Joe said that too when when
Usher was on his podcast. He said Usher
walked in. He took him to like a hood
spot. Usher walked in. He was like he
was levitating.
>> I'VE SEEN IT. YO, I'VE SEEN USHER do
that twice in my life. I seen Usher walk
into the uh it was the radio I know the
backstage green room area at the iHeart
Radio Music Festival. He walked in doing
all like walking the dog doing all this
[ __ ] I'm like, "Oh shit." But I think
he's just an artist. So when you're an
artist and you either just left stage or
you about to get on stage, you kind of
like warm it up. I seen him do that
again. We were in uh South Africa.
>> It was uh where was we at?
>> Johannesburg. He walked into the party
and it was like now mind you this was a
party that was very small. Was it wasn't
even a lot of people there and like it
was a lot of stars in the building.
Superstars.
He walked in like I am the I am the
superstar. The DJ was playing his music.
He
>> No way. So I ain't got no problem with
Usher making another Usher hold the door
for him. Maybe that's just like a
comfort zone. It's just like, you know,
he walking in and taking pictures like
you want to get the good he want to get
a good shot.
>> But ain't that a little crazy that he
was fine with the woman open the door
for herself?
>> NO, HE OPENED IT FOR HER, DIDN'T HE?
>> NO, SHE opened it herself.
>> Eventually, he grabs it.
She opens.
>> I held it for her.
>> No, she opened her.
>> Listen, I wouldn't do it. But I ain't
mad at Usher for doing it. I'm not
Usher. I didn't make confessions.
>> Yeah, you damn sure.
>> Okay. I I didn't make 8701. All right. I
didn't have everybody flying in Vegas.
>> Usher with that chest out.
>> That's how I did that this weekend.
>> I did. You want to see?
>> No, I don't. I don't got time for your
[ __ ]
>> How do you feel about uh women going to
the Asha concert?
>> I think it's fine. I mean, why now? Why
would you do that?
>> The band is the only
>> You was down there scaring them damn
people like that.
>> Why you listen? I got chest, girl. I be
working out, girl.
>> But like getting on stage. So right now
you go to us concert. He He wants to
bring you on stage.
>> No way in hell I'm going on stage.
>> She's a liar.
>> No way in hell. Even before my
relationship, you would not catch me.
>> Why? They all lie and say her ass off.
>> I That's one thing I'm very very very
for sure about. I would never do nothing
that loud ever. Period. Never. You're on
the BREAKFAST CLUB
>> AT WORK. I'm not there thrusting and
throbbing and shout out to Lauren Laos.
I mean, you could be like the woman that
just does the little whatever. But
>> I would never.
>> If you feel it in your body, you might
walk up on you with that [ __ ] You going
to be
>> Never. And I'm not doing it. I wouldn't
do the cherry thing either.
>> Huh?
>> I wouldn't do the cherry thing either.
>> Now, the cherry thing is crazy.
>> I wouldn't do that.
>> Cherry thing is crazy. Your guy is big
though. He might eat the cherries cuz
he's
>> He seemed like he'd be hungry during the
show.
>> That's crazy. Charlotte, you got that
one. You got to chill out. I promise you
even I'm going to let hungry. HE'S A
GROWN ASS. YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK IT IS?
It's because And this happens. Yeah. Cuz
you're you're little and stubborn.
>> If you feel it in your body
>> and you're just mad cuz that man is fine
and tall and chocolate.
>> He would be an offensive lineman. I'd be
a running back.
>> You wouldn't be on a [ __ ] field. You
have You have no body build. You have no
nothing. Like you're just there. You
know what you would be doing? You'd be
dropping your kid off. See the chest
again?
>> You'd be dropping your kid off in the
minivan. Okay. Get off the field.
>> I think cuz I don't show it off. Y'all
don't think they y'all don't know what's
going on. It's g quiet on the creek.
>> Okay. What's under that shirt?
>> See, Lauren, you cannot do that. You
can't say grind on the creek and do the
move and then be like, "No, I wanted
to." And you can't. You got heavies. You
can't do that, Lauren. That's
>> It was quick.
>> Nah, it's crazy. There ain't nothing
quiet about this.
>> You got heavies, TOO.
>> NO, I DON'T. CROSSING IT. GOT HE had a
had a ner have a deep V-cut too. You're
>> [ __ ] right.
>> You showing cleavage is crazy. I know
we're very inclusive. They them. But put
them on
>> with a tank top under the jacket.
>> Yeah,
>> that's probably what Usha got on. He
probably got on a tank top under the
jacket.
>> I guess it's a a flesh tone shirt.
>> A no flesh. No, his flesh tone.
>> You want me to be You want me to be
short and stocky so bad and that's
crazy.
>> No, you short and thick and round.
>> Hey, acknowledge it. Don't make
>> Taylor mad at my man though. Taylor be
hating. Taylor be hating.
>> My man is fine.
>> Taylor be hating.
>> You be hating. Damn. I meant to send you
something and I
>> What? How somebody said?
>> No, it was like something about being
thicker.
>> YEAH, [ __ ] GET THICK BUT CHARLOTTE
THICKER. [ __ ]
>> you wish. My guy that is crazy.
>> That is crazy. But
>> what else we got? Taylor gang
NBA Young Boy
>> who
>> did y'all see this part when he was
like,
>> "Oh my god, this was so funny.
I'm [ __ ] I'm black. I'm I'm brown or
whatever.
>> I'm black.
>> Yeah, you just
>> I'm dark skin.
>> Yeah, but are you actually a [ __ ]
>> You were taken it back by the hard er.
>> Yeah, like that was a little crazy. No,
it's not, man.
>> Y'all know exactly what young boy mean,
man.
WHY Y'ALL ACTING LIKE Y'ALL DON'T KNOW A
YOUNG BOY? ME BLACK AND it's Bonnet
black. It's like why you say like
>> CUZ YOU TELLING US YOU'RE PLAYING AGAIN,
MAN.
>> Y'all act like y'all know Bonnet black.
>> I'm black. I'm brown or whatever.
>> I'm black.
>> Yeah, you just I'm dark skin.
>> I'm dark skin.
>> Yeah. But are you actually a [ __ ]
>> Shout out to Marco, man.
>> Yo, that is not
>> It's true. I KNOW WHAT HE'S SAYING.
>> Don't do this. But like
>> you do funny Marco like re recently
>> I might do I [ __ ] with Marco. That's my
guy. That's my guy. I [ __ ] with Marco.
Okay. That's my that's that's that's
nephew right there. That's son. Marco
called me yesterday told me hello
father. Shut the [ __ ] up Marco.
>> He hasn't been to the show.
>> Yeah. He
>> that's WHY HE GOT IN TROUBLE with
[ __ ] Fredo Bang
>> because he came to the show
>> said Jaylen Herz was handsome. Maternity
leave.
>> You might have been. Yeah. Marco said
Jaylen Herz was handsome
>> and then to be funny because everybody
online started calling him gay. He
unfollowed everybody and followed Jaylen
Hurt. So that was the only person he was
following.
>> Oh that's funny.
>> And then when he started following
people back I guess a couple months
later or whenever it was he forgot to
follow Fredo Bang back. So when Fredo
Bang saw him sitting with Young Boy he
thought that Marco unfollowed him
because of Young Boy cuz I guess Young
Boy and Fredo got something. So Fredo
left a message telling Marco, I'mma see
you, right?
>> Wow.
>> Rappers are sensitive.
>> I'M TELLING NOW THAT FRED DON'T KNOW THE
STORY, I'm sure. He like, oh [ __ ] I
didn't know that's what happened. So he
ain't that serious. Rappers are
sensitive. Very [ __ ] sensitive. Some
of the most sensitive people walking the
face of the earth.
>> This records not like they sensitive.
>> He made a diss record against you.
>> Who? Yeah, young boy. I remember that.
It was
>> Did he ever say anything about it? I
hope he liked it.
>> Oh, about your remix?
>> I made a remix. OH, I'MMA SHOW YOU HOW
TO ACT A DUNKEY.
>> YEAH.
>> Do you think you've been dissed the most
as a media personality by rappers?
>> Beat up, too.
>> Um,
>> you ain't have to do that.
>> I don't know. Wendy got Wendy got
mentioned in a lot of the [ __ ] too.
>> She has.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Tupac mentioned Wendy. Will Smith
mentioned Wendy. Jay-Z mentioned.
>> Oh, that's true. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Wendy Williams. You don't know me.
Not
blow me. How do you know?
>> Girl, better leave me alone. call by
your radio station and send you, oh, how
you know the rap is pull that up.
>> Yo, Charlie, you know the rapith.
>> You was there when that time when it
dropped?
>> No, but she had it as a drop. It's like
that's why I be always telling y'all
grab all the artist drops. She had it as
a drop and and she would play it all the
time. It'd be like a sweeper. Wendy
Williams, you don't know me. I'm not
your
>> punching.
That's what it was. Huh? Lunch
freestyle.
>> No, it says Wendy. It It should be Will
Smith Wendy Williams disc.
>> Okay.
>> Will Smith Wendy I don't know what song
that was from.
>> Where where where was she working? What
market was she when she was playing it?
>> She was uh in New York on W I don't know
when Will did that record but she used
to play it on WBLS when she was on 107.5
and she was syndicated.
Uh she was only like nine markets.
>> Was she in Philly?
>> She was in Philly.
>> That's funny.
>> She was in Philly. She was in Columbia,
South Carolina.
>> But you you have quite a few.
>> Quite a few. I think you might have the
most. Take the beanie sequel one get
that one in just star gets
>> No, he he's talking about actual
mentions in song.
>> Oh, I'm talking about people pulling up.
>> The song's called Mr. Nice Guy.
>> Hold up. Popcorn.
>> Popcorn just did one like in January.
>> No, but he pulled up on you.
>> No, no, no, not yet.
>> Not yet.
>> Okay.
>> They say it was a diss. I don't know
what the [ __ ]
>> That's probably why you be mad at my
boyfriend, too. You've had some really
interesting interactions with people
from Philly.
I used to I used to do radio in Philly.
I love Philly. Philly. I love [ __ ]
Philly.
>> Let me hear it. Taylor, let me hear.
He's
>> from Philly.
>> Mhm.
>> But it's not I'm looking at the lyrics
from West.
>> Born and raised.
>> Yep.
>> On the playgrounds where he spend most
of his days
>> basically.
>> Getting all fat, eating fast food.
>> STOP.
I wonder how you going to remix it.
>> You are advocate.
>> He's good, man.
You need to limit your jokes. Like maybe
like two per like interaction mean
>> cuz like it's unfair. He you don't even
know him. You don't even know HE DON'T
EVEN BEFORE.
>> YOU say hi to everybody Charlene. You
don't know him to be joking.
>> We spoke on the phone.
>> Yeah. Because he was like, "Yo, put that
[ __ ] on the phone. Like tell him stop
playing with me." And he got on the
phone.
>> Look at him laughing. You know what?
>> Hello. Hello. Hanging up. Yeah. Let's
build f out of here. I'm listen
>> to come home to someone that acts like
you.
>> It's so fun.
>> It's ridiculous.
>> And you act like it's not the funnest
thing.
>> Get a break. I will have to put you in
the corner. Like just
>> you like it's not fun. Did you find it?
>> Yeah.
>> Can we hear it?
>> Let me see. I have to say this is very
Will Smith.
>> Shout out to Big Willie.
>> Y'ALL GOING TO STOP PLAYING WITH BIG
[ __ ] WILLIE.
>> YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE AND I love Will
Smith, but you're the only one that knew
that song. I didn't never knew he'd have
a song like this.
>> [ __ ] Willie. SEE, YOU KNOW WHY THIS
RECORD IS DOPE? This record is dope
because it's a combination of Fresh
Prince and Will Smith. Now, I'm on
record of saying Fresh Prince is dope.
Will Smith is whack. But this right
here, MR. NICE GUY,
>> it had a little Eminem feel to it. Had a
little M&M feel to it.
>> This is when people could be free.
>> No, that was actually kind of fun. I
ain't going
>> people could be free. You know what I'm
saying? HE SAID, "I WAS GAY ON A FRIDAY
NIGHT." WHY? I
CRAZY.
>> WHY? I
>> He said he was just gay on A FRIDAY
NIGHT.
>> SHOUT OUT TO BIG WILLIE. Let's pay some
bills, man.
>> People do not know.
>> I mean, he been trying to tell us for a
while.
>> I know. Playing with Big Will if you
want to.
>> That's why he was upset, y'all.
>> Yeah.
>> He was never upset at me. Will is my
guy. I am a pink. My last name is
Charlemagne. I don't [ __ ] with you like
that.
>> Pinky Smith Winfrey Nose Carter.
>> Yeah, but he don't [ __ ] with you like
that.
>> Who? Will Smith.
>> All right.
>> When they were here, he was like, "All
right, Charlotte." Like,
>> what you mean?
>> He don't like you.
>> Who?
>> I he don't like him, but
>> that's my guy. Shout out to Big Willie.
>> I can see Jada like liking you, but
>> that's my I love Jada, too.
>> Yeah, cuz she can get with you. She can
understand with him. I feel like he
don't got the tolerance for you.
>> You a bit much.
>> WILL FROM PHILLY. WELL, LIKE THE joking
clown.
>> Nice.
>> He ain't about to joke with you a lot.
Listen, shout out to Willie. Shout out
to Big Will.
>> When's the last time you seen him?
>> Seen who?
>> Will.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh, I don't know. It's been a couple of
years. I a seen Will in a
>> So, you haven't seen him since we
reported on his songs that came out
here.
>> I've spoken to him since then.
>> Oh, yeah.
>> Yeah.
>> And he How do you feel about that?
>> You think he saw it? Will Smith?
>> Yes. I don't know.
What?
>> AND WE WEREN'T JOKING. I SAID THIS [ __ ]
WAS FIRE.
>> CHARLIE, YOU SEE EVERYTHING. SO, he saw
it. I said the [ __ ] was fire. Okay. Will
[ __ ] fire. That was fire we listen
through just now. Okay.
>> That was actually pretty good.
>> I KNOW THAT TRIED TO HATE ON WILL SMITH.
>> HE WAS KIND OF BLOWING when he was the
one that was like
>> keep PLAYING WITH WILL SMITH.
>> THIS IS HOW HE GOT HIM.
>> What he say?
>> I am the He'll just be like, "I am the
flag. I'm the star."
>> Like stupid [ __ ]
>> Why can't he be the flag and the stars?
Okay. Why can't he be these things?
>> Y'all just be hating on SHOUT OUT TO
WILL SMITH.
>> WILL SMITH. I said Andrew making fun of
him.
>> I am a Pinket Smith. Winfrey nose
Carter.
>> You're you you're married into the um
Pinket.
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>> here.
>> Do you have any church announcements?
>> Just the daily podcast. Monday through
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>> And, you know, you get to know a little
bit more about her as well, like not
just the stories.
>> That's true. Yeah, we we check in behind
the scenes of the grind. So, you do get
to spend a little bit more time with me
just my favorite part of the podcast
more personally where we just talk
through what I'm thinking. It's weird
cuz I be talking to nobody but I be
talking to people.
>> But that's that's how you know you're a
good personality. That's what that was
was one of Wendy Williams scrims. She
can sit in that studio by herself and
put on a whole 4hour show and you know
wouldn't miss a beat. That's when you
know you're a great personality. That's
a very rare skill set. There's only a
few people I know that I can do that. I
think it's a little different now
because more people practice like that.
Meaning like if you're on screen for 5 6
hours, you know, but even then you still
got your chat, right? So you're talking
and responding. But to be on the radio
where you can't see nobody
>> and nobody can see you and you just
talking and just you and the sound
effect person in there, it's a different
skill set.
>> Different skill set.
>> You got to hone in it. It'd be too much.
I be going too long. Yo, you you talk
sometimes you just talk too fast and you
repeat something that you already said
but you say it differently like but
you're
>> Yeah.
>> And I want to tell everybody uh October
10th
10. Uh well, first of all, I want to say
thank you to everybody who came out to
my 11th annual uh back to school driving
fish fry in mouse corner, South
Carolina. Salute to spray ground for
giving me such a great discount on
backpacks. Really appreciate y'all.
Salute to all the vendors that came out,
provided free food for everybody. Thank
you. Thank you. Thank you. Um, and also
I want to tell y'all that October 10th,
1010 World Mental Health Day, I'm doing
my mental wealth expo in Newark, New
Jersey. I don't even remember what year
this is. This might be our fourth year,
fifth year. I think it's our fifth year,
but my 10th my my fifth annual mental
wealth expo at the Joel and Diane Bloom
Wellness and Event Center. Salute to my
good sister Debbie Brown. She is
curating everything uh this year and
we're focusing on solutions this year.
You know, we've gotten together the last
few years and just had conversations
about how to eradicate the stigma around
mental health, but this year is all
solutionoriented.
So, go um to www.mentalwealthexpo.com
to register to be there. It's a free
event. So, we'll see you 10:10 in
Newark, New Jersey. Alex, you got church
announcements?
>> Oh, yes. Um guys, you guys know my live
show that I do every Sunday AM mornings.
It's really dope seeing some of the
Brilliant Idiots fans, the Flagrin fans
calling in. It's fire. Just head over to
amornings.com on YouTube. We do it every
Sunday at 11 a.m. And then also, I have
my tennis clinic for anybody who wants
to play tennis or you already play. The
next event is August 22nd. Just head
over to theallloclub.com,
buy a ticket there. And
>> so I am doing a YouTube series. It's
called Made It Series where I'm asking
people how they made it since they call
me Taylor made it. I'm just doing a
little twist on it.
>> She's doing silly ass jokes.
>> No,
>> no, she does have her tiny post that she
does, but no, she does have a series.
She's already been posting.
>> Yeah, for real.
>> It's called Made It Series. And it's
just getting um people's uh perspective
of what they what the definition of made
it to them is. And that doesn't even
have to be about career. It could be
about just being what successes to them
in life.
>> Yes.
>> This is a good time. Pull up the uh
because I didn't talk about this yet.
Pull up the um highest paid podcasters
because Lauren
had a question and there was a
discussion around um
>> how you monetize outside of YouTube.
>> Well, yeah, the Forbes list.
>> Yeah, it was the the question was there
was no black women.
>> Oh, yeah. Then that and I said, is it
that the advertising and the corporate
people don't want to work with the black
women in their content like they don't
see the value in it?
>> It's the highest paid podcast of 2026.
Um, no need to get in the numbers, but
let's just look at
>> Oh, this was the list where they put
you.
>> I was I was on there.
>> Wait, we were number
>> Well, it don't even matter. Joe Rogan
was number one.
>> Send you the PDF template. Hold on.
>> Scroll it. Joe Joe Rogan was number one.
Uh, let me see the Pull up the pictures,
Taylor.
>> Yeah,
>> Joe Rogan was number one. Travis Kelce
and Jason Kelsey were on there. Jay
Shetty's on there. Amy Polar, Tucker
Carlson, uh, Alex Cooper. Uh, I'm on
there. Joe Buddton is on there. Steve
Bartlett, Diary of the CEO, the Pod,
that's the Pod Save America guys are on
there. Um, Smart List is on there. A lot
of the usual suspects, but everybody was
having a discussion, at least in uh my
al on my algorithm, about why there were
no black women on the list.
>> Yeah.
>> And I want y'all to know this list is
not about race.
>> It's not
>> in no way, shape, or form. Sorry to tell
y'all that. Okay. It's not about race.
And I meant to send you this cuz I had
actually wrote these things down. Um th
this is about infrastructure
>> and when you read about all of these
different individuals you will see that.
Okay. Um I I sent this to Angela Ry.
That's why I'm reading it. Number one,
you have to own and control your IP,
>> which mostly all podcasters do because
you want to have a significant stake in
your show and the business around your
show. And that's the most important
thing, guys. You have to have a business
around your podcast. What is the
business around your podcast? When I say
business, what am I talking about? I'm
talking about you have to build multiple
revenue streams around your pod. You
have to have a licensing deal with a
platform, right? That's what Breakfast
Club has with Netflix, right? That's
what a lot of these shows have. They
have licensing deals with these
platforms. And then you got ads and you
got sponsorships and you might be signed
to a pod podcast network or you might BE
>> OWNING
>> A OWNER. OF A PODCAST NETWORK CALLED THE
BLACK EFFECT. You got to have merch,
right? You got to have live events. You
got to have products. You got to have at
least two or three of those things going
>> around your podcast to really generate
the revenue. Um, and most importantly,
guys, cuz it's only like a few things
that those two things I just named. And
most importantly, you have to have a
massive measurable audience reach. I
think you know when I look at that when
I think about it you say and we think
about no black women on the list the
only podcast hosted by a black woman
currently with numbers like folks on
that list.
>> Y'all don't want to hear this but it's
Candace Owens.
>> I believe that though.
>> Candace Owens numbers audio and video
are massive. I was actually shocked
Candace wasn't on that list. So maybe
it's a I don't know. Maybe it's a
disconnect in the business. I don't
know. Are you I feel like brandwise
people don't want to put her on a list
because of what she's grown to
represent.
>> Sure.
>> Even though Joe Rogan is a little testy.
>> Sure. But it's not like Candace couldn't
be selling merch. It's not like Candace
couldn't be doing live events. It's not
like Candace couldn't be having a
subscriptionbased tier that I'm sure
people would pay for. You understand
what I'm saying? Like there's a lot of
different ways for Candace Owens to
monetize her podcast. Candace Owens
audience is massive. Now listen, I'm
only talking about numbers, guys. I'm
not talking about anything else. We
ain't talking black. We ain't talking
white. We're talking numbers. Okay, as
my guy John O'Brien says, numbers don't
have any feelings, okay? We're just
talking math.
>> When it comes to numbers, Candace Owens
is through the roof. And I had to look
up. I was thinking, I was like, damn, I
feel like Michelle Obama,
>> but so new though. I mean, it's Michelle
Obama. But
>> Michelle Michelle Obama does about
600,000 audio downloads a month,
>> which is m Which is pretty big.
>> She's Michelle Obama,
>> right? And and also, I would think her
video numbers do well. I haven't looked
on YouTube to see. But more importantly,
to your point, because she's Michelle
Obama, I would I would think brands are
backing up the bank's truck.
>> She got I mean, one of her biggest
sponsorships on her podcast is Uber. I
mean, Uber um uh Airbnb
>> like that's a her and her brother, they
always got to do a segment about like
how the Airbnb
>> they probably spending the bag,
>> but also 600,000 a month is not
>> no no
>> on the level of the people you listed.
So that's why I can understand why she
was excluded, but Candace Owens is one I
don't understand why she wasn't on this
list.
>> I think there's a disconnect with the
business in her world.
>> I'm I'm her world is subscribers. So all
the people who comment, they have to
subscribe to subscribers.
>> She has subscribers. So she's getting
crazy
>> across where what she does. Does she
have subscribers at
>> to her own website?
>> Oh, so she
controls
>> that comes straight in. She is. She's
probably the highest paid podcaster
right now if I had to guess.
>> Has she still been doing it?
>> No. No. For for her show, not outside
stuff. But if you just say the amount of
money you take from your show, all her
people that watch live that are
commenting are subscribed to her
directly. So there's no there's no
Patreon getting a cut. There's no
YouTube getting a cut. That's directly
through her building. And then she got
books that she publishes. She got
>> definitely got books. She
>> No, listen. I told y'all I'm I I'm
shocked Candace Owens was not on this
list. I I said like that is the
>> if I had if there was one black woman
and I know y'all not going to like this,
but it's just true, but we're just
talking audience size and business. I
was shocked that Candace Owen wasn't on
that list. Now, who do I think is going
to be on the list in the future?
Michelle Obama. But also with Michelle,
she may not be taking on a lot of
sponsors cuz she don't want to because
she's Michelle Obama. Her she's not
going to just have her brand attached to
any old thing. ain't like she she ain't
going to have Craig on there doing
Bluetooth edge. You know what I'm
saying? Right. But
>> I can see Michelle Obama on this list in
the future and Kiki
is killing it. Well, today actually well
the day that we're filming this um meal
and Michelle Obama just went live, but
Kiki Palmer has been I know Kiki Palmer
has been having a lot of like she she
did Whoopy. Like Kiki Palmer and
Michelle Obama are the two podcasts that
I probably sit and watch religiously
because their guests are out of here.
Like
>> I like Kiki. I I like her as a uh I like
her as an interviewer. I do. I enjoy
her. But
>> those two are able to build businesses
around
>> Oh, yeah. And their podcast.
>> Yeah. In real life is it's
>> Oh, Angie's Kiki. Angie Martinez and um
Michelle Obama's podcast is where I
probably get most of my like content
stuff.
>> Not to pivot, but what was the backlash
with Kiki getting a star?
>> There's backlash.
Oh, I saw people were saying like she
didn't deserve to
>> WHAT
am I? I didn't say I didn't say I didn't
say who would say that though because
>> I just saw you mix a Puerto Rican. You
said
>> Oh my god. It's not about race. I'm just
saying the other side of your race cuz
we're black people.
>> Oh, I saw men saying that [ __ ]
>> I'm not even exaggerating when I see it.
Say this. Kiki Palm is literally one of
the most talented people and she's so
hard working and she's not walk I feel
like where her it's like she's very
intentional about the work she be doing
like she don't just do every anything
she's maintained an elevated level of
career for a very long time that is so
hard to
>> she's a kila in the be bro like she has
a great
>> she said that that movie didn't um do
well in at first
>> I'm sure it didn't Whoopy was talking
about that Whoopy was saying how like a
lot of her movies didn't do well either
until they made it onto TV and then
people were
Oh,
>> I think Kiki got more cult classics. I
mean, I think one of the biggest box
office hits she's had recently was the
joint with Issa Ray when in Scissor.
>> Oh, that was good.
>> But I love her infrastructure. Like
right now, everything she's doing, she
it's all in house. She controls
everything. So, a podcast she controls a
lot of any additional
>> cont.
I forgetting to say that.
>> Lauren going to be on this list.
>> Grinding.com. He got the merch.
>> Um, who else? What? What? What? You
reserve that. You can't.
>> 5 seconds away throwing his water.
>> What? I said you going TO BE ON THE
LIST.
>> BECAUSE OF ME.
>> Cuz of you.
>> You need to get up every day. Make him
record these episodes. Make him when I
be tired recording them episodes and
make sure we get them by succ.
>> Yes.
>> And I don't sleep on decisions.
Decisions. I I feel like we've always
have this conversation with them. I feel
like they should have more.
>> Well, it's
>> and be doing more. They're doing
everything they are.
>> They are, but I feel like that moment of
like they're larger than like life
podcast like
>> Call her Her Daddy for instance,
larger than like she has billboards and
like all these crazy she's in I saw in a
commercial like on television for like I
forget what it was for and I was like
what is she doing there? Are there
hurdles for black women who talk sex?
>> Yes.
>> And I% But why do we like to act like
when women point out certain things?
Like I think the conversation around
this list and no black women being on it
wasn't like everybody knowing the
numbers because we know that people
don't be doing the numbers all the time,
right? It was just more about
>> there are so many barriers that happen,
but we love to act like no, just pull
your bootstraps up and you'll be fine.
>> No, but if the the only reason it's hard
to have those type of discussions is
because there's nothing to compare it
to, right? Like there the only black
woman led podcast I'm telling you that
can compare to the podcast on this list
is Candace. Candace only does better
numbers than some of these people on
this list. Yeah.
>> So so that's that's where we have to
start. You have to start with the
audience.
>> Yeah. And when I say when I say doing
more with decision decision
>> doing better numbers than everyone on
>> Let me look I'mma look that up.
>> Yo, I'm telling you. Yo Charlotte, you
got to
>> Last time I checked it was something
stupid.
>> But I mean I would imagine that she's
very polarizing.
>> Yeah, but it don't matter if you're if
if you're making the list based off the
numbers. You got to put her on.
>> No, y'all. It's a lot of people that
don't a lot of brands and businesses
that regardless of her numbers don't
want to stand next to her. That's
>> that's why she's had to build that site
that you're talking about.
>> By the way, she would be kicked off
anywhere else.
>> That's what I used to get on these
panels at these advertising, you know,
conferences and stuff and and and argue
about and I would always use horrible
decisions as the answer. I'm like, "Yo,
you got guys we [ __ ] and call her
daddy, and you know, you got these two
black women, Mandy and Weezy, who do
ridiculous numbers, right?" Yeah. And
advertisers are scared of them. Why?
Because they're black. Listen, January
2026, Podcribe reported that Candace
averaged about 2.9 million downloads per
episode. That's just audio
>> per episode, guys.
>> And that was down 8% from the prior
month. in October 25. Listen, in October
25, she was even higher at roughly 3.5
million downloads, ranking number one in
that particular crossplatform metric.
That's just audio
>> and I'm not a fan at all, but I pay
attention just to what's going on.
>> Same with her
list, but I she
>> and she is out here. When you exclude
her from list like this, you just make
her bigger. Cuz now it's like,
>> no, but the reason why that
>> Nobody said, "Where's Candace Owens?"
Except for people like him who know the
numbers.
>> You got to know the business.
>> But you, but you know how like um people
root for the underdog. She like still
>> nobody as
I'm talking about how she like uh
portrays herself to her audience. She
portrays herself to as the underdog
everybody's against me type stuff. So
when you exclude her from a list like
this, you actually just make it bigger.
Oh, I'm lying, too. The 2.9 is actually
uh audio and YouTube views.
>> But that's per app, Charlotte. Nobody's
doing that per episode.
>> She ranked number two in downloads plus
views per episode on YouTube.
>> Mhm.
>> This was April 26. Podcast specifically
reported in April 2026 that Kansas
ranked number two in downloads plus
views per episode and that the majority
of his views were from YouTube.
>> Yeah.
>> Her YouTube footprint is enormous. She
got six crazy. She got 6.5 million
subscribers and 1.49 billion lifetime
views as of late July. I mean, listen,
>> was that what she was doing all the
stuff about whether that um they that
whether that person was a man or not?
>> I mean, I don't know. Candace
Candace has been bu That's the other
thing, too. That's the other thing I
want everybody to remember about these
list.
>> Time
people like Candace have had they've
been building this for a decade plus. M
>> she's had her pod for at least six,
seven years. Seven years is always the
sweet spot to me. A lot of these people
on this list have been doing this [ __ ]
for a long [ __ ] time. Like Joe
Button has been potting for over a
decade.
>> You know what I'm saying? I' I've been
doing this [ __ ] 13 years. I've been
literally hosting a podcast for 13
[ __ ] years.
>> I wish we would see an end of the year
wrap up ever again.
>> What you mean?
>> Yes.
>> Now we talking. Now we talking.
>> Yeah.
>> Now we talking.
>> End of the year wrap-up.
>> Yep. I I could produce it.
>> We can produce it.
>> I don't know if I like you no more. You
was cool when when I first walked in
here. Me and Kay figure it out. But once
you start throwing jabs at my man, you
might
>> But it's good content.
>> Me and Joe don't even got to make no
content. Like it's just like
>> No, but this is something I threw out.
Actually, I would like to see you, Joe,
and ACT make something.
>> Oh god, I want to see
>> because it it targets every single
aspect of the internet. Well, I mean in
a sense for Yeah. But
>> that would be a fire show. A
>> is annoying as [ __ ] I know. I know you
don't like him. Well, maybe you don't
like him, maybe you do. It don't matter.
I'm just saying that be a fire show.
>> Joe, me and Joe love each other, guys.
>> He's recently said that, too.
>> We do love each other.
>> So, question. So, you and Charlemagne
are at odds. What's going on?
>> Not at all. Not at all. It's just a
funny ongoing.
>> You love each other.
>> It's a joke. Yeah, we love each other
actually.
>> Good. That means something.
>> Staring at the phone.
>> That means something. We both staring at
the phone like, "All right, who gonna
call who first?" You know what I mean?
We'd rather probably run into each
other.
>> Y'all are in
We probably run. We'd rather run into
each other.
>> It's like, "Oh my god, talking."
>> We'd rather run into each other like,
"Oh, okay." You know, just bump into
each other some just bumped into each
other recently. Yeah, I'm like a girl
like Yeah. I haven't I haven't talked to
him, but I think I'm going to run into
him. So, I think I'm just going to bump
and try to talk and then you go where
then you go where he know you know he
going to be.
>> Exactly.
>> This is why guys don't even like to have
these kind of conversations cuz you see
how they act with
seven. Yeah, you do that. You be like,
"Yeah, cuz I know he going to be here."
>> But now it's never going to happen when
you put that sauce on it.
>> No, it's going to happen. Like it's
going to happen, guys. end of the year
wrap-up will be amazing. I think because
these lists that keep coming out and
these are big lists. This is like not
just and it's no shade to like you know
these are really big lists. These are
>> people that are looking at these lists
are in all different types of genres of
life and race, religion, all that,
right? And you two stick out on this
list for us all the time. It
>> cuz we [ __ ] what NBA Young Boy said
>> [ __ ]
>> Are you a [ __ ]
>> Yeah. Yeah,
>> you real hard either.
So, um they have so much influence where
the rest of the culture will start to do
that because a lot of these people
collab with one another and that's what
they lift all one tie lifts all boats.
What I was saying is I'm telling you
they need to be the [ __ ] example and
they got to stop. But y'all got to have
we need an honest conversation to kick
it off first cuz I just needed to watch
>> what Alex is saying is true. No, what
Alex is saying is 100% true. I watch I
look at these lists and that is the
thing I see. I'm like, "Yo, all of these
people, they build with each other. They
collaborate with each other. They do
things with each other." And by not like
we didn't do that. So we'd be lying if
we said on our comeup
>> we all didn't help each other. A lot of
people would say that's the heyday when
everybody was working together and
building.
>> Listen, I'm not I'm not sitting there
disagreeing with none of that. Cuz I be
looking at this [ __ ] online, man. All of
this back and forth is goofy. Now
listen, there's some of y'all I don't
give a [ __ ] about building with ever cuz
I don't have no relationship with y'all.
Didn't have a relationship with y'all 15
years ago and don't really care to have
a relationship with y'all now because
the [ __ ] that y'all be doing just for
clicks and views just ain't for me. I
know people want to look at me and be
like, "Yo, Charlamine was a shock jock."
I'm really an [ __ ] when I want to be.
Okay? So, it's not like I was out here
just doing [ __ ] for clicks and views.
And when I did [ __ ] for clicks and
views, it never felt good. And I've told
y'all I told I told y'all that Floyd
Mayweather [ __ ] didn't make me feel good
when I played the audio.
>> So, that wasn't just you. That was I
know this going to go crazy.
>> That was I lit I say it. If you listen
to the audio, I'm saying it. I'm like,
"Oh, [ __ ] that." Like, we got the audio.
Let's play it. This [ __ ] I'm saying it
like I can't move like that. That [ __ ]
don't make me feel good. And go go go
back to a conversation that we had with
Wendy Williams at dinner about a year
and a half ago now. What did Wendy say,
Lauren?
>> She feels like everything she's going
through right now is God getting her
back for all of the the things that she
said in, you know, about people.
>> Yes. But I guess at the same time to
hear that though at the same time
>> it's easier for you to say that 200 m up
but the other people who are still on
the come up they feel hey this is what I
have to do to get to that number.
>> I don't know about that number you just
quoted.
>> I'm just saying yeah that's too low cuz
this list alone say 27 and that came
after the 200. That was just saying no.
Actually, this was before.
>> Well, we found out about it after. So,
I'm adding both.
>> Forget all of that. None of this at
least 250 M.
>> But then we don't know about real
estate. We don't know about crystals.
>> We don't know about Y'all know about
that.
>> No, we don't know your numbers. We don't
know.
>> No, no, you don't.
>> Yeah. So, I'm just saying,
>> you know, life is good. God,
>> maybe next billionaires next.
>> By the way, pick up Little John's book.
It'll be out in stores October. It's
called Our Only Shout So You Can Hear Me
Black Privilege Publishing, Simon
Schustster. Go pick that up. Go pick up
two chains book, the voice of my head is
God. Go pick up our senior hall's book,
his memoir. Uh, and go pick up Jess
Larry to death we parent. All of those
came out via black privilege publishing
this year. Sing and Shust. But back to
what you said.
>> I didn't even add the book footprint
closer you were to a B.
>> Stop. Stop. That stuff is Stop. You're
You're missing the point. That stuff
what you're talking about, Alex, is
>> you don't get to that unless you pivot.
And that's what I'm trying to explain to
people. There's things that guys like
myself,
>> Joe Buddton have already done. What did
Jay-Z say? I went through that. So
hopefully you don't have to go through
that.
>> Yeah.
>> I'm telling these guys where they should
pivot, where they should grow, where
they should evolve now. Because I'm
telling you, when you're in this space
as a hip-hop media personality, you look
up and you think you can go further, but
that ceiling is made of glass. So you
see the sky and you're like, "Let me
keep going." But then you just hit your
head, you're like, "Damn, what the
fuck?" hit. Hey, what the [ __ ] When all
you got just just pivot in order to
break break the glass ceiling. And but
when I say pivot, I mean don't be afraid
to grow up. Understand that what you're
doing is not sustainable. Do you want to
go viral or do you want to have a voice
that actually has value? There's a
difference.
>> Jessala, you hit the ceiling and then
you pivoted. They're still trying to get
to the ceiling and you're telling them,
"Hey, pivot." Now,
>> here's the thing. I never hit a ceiling
professionally. I hit a ceiling
personally as a man. As a man, I didn't
feel like I was moving.
>> They want to get their numbers up. They
want to get their money up first and
then they want to pivot. But a lot of
people follow your track record. They
follow track record.
>> Listen to me. I'm telling you that
>> in order to get to that, you have to
grow as a human.
>> I promise you, man. That [ __ ] that I'm
watching these people online, they're
robots. They're like AI. Like they're
not even real individuals. They're just
doing and saying things because they
want to get numbers and they want to get
clicks and they want to get engagement.
If you say to me, I'm only saying this
because this is what I want to acquire,
you're a cornball.
>> I I agree with you, but it's easier to
say it from your position now. Because
you weren't doing this back then when
you were saying the stuff that they're
saying.
>> By the way, I didn't even know I could
get to this. I'm just telling you that
as a man,
>> I needed to make a change. Personally,
me, I wasn't happy with the way that I
was moving. It wasn't It wasn't no
career issue. It wasn't no personal
issue. It was what was going on with me
internally.
>> That [ __ ] that Wendy Williams said to us
at dinner is exactly where my energy
was. I'm like, nah, this ain't I'm not n
I can't I'm not I'm not moving like
this. By the way, I can point to other
people in the culture I'm wa I've
watched that happen with. Look at Jason
Lee. Now Jason won't admit that he's a
little he's still messier. He's still
messier than I did than me. Okay. But
you can't sit here and act like you
ain't see Jason Lee pivot.
>> Yeah.
>> My man is a freak. He's the vice mayor
of [ __ ] Stockton, California right
now.
>> EVEN BUTTON
>> AS WELL AS BUT WHAT?
>> YEAH. HE'S PIVOTED. YEAH.
>> Do you know I got the first time me and
Button ever was on air together?
>> Oh god. you like
>> 39 in Columbia, South Carolina.
>> What y'all talking about?
>> It was so good. This when he was
allegedly he was beefing with Gain
>> from Gunit. This when G was Gun
>> and he walked in the radio station with
a Gunit hat on.
>> And so I'm talking to him and he's
talking to me about Gunit. I'm like, do
you
you ain't here talking about gang, but
you got a gunnit hat on? And
when I I'm not all I'm saying is there
was gay slurs.
>> It was fun, man. Those were
>> Yeah, I know.
>> But see, but then could be free when I
could be free.
>> OH MY GOD. NOT GAY SLURS cuz people were
actually gay. You know how we used to
use
>> I didn't use it. Okay.
>> Or whatever.
>> It don't matter.
>> That was That was literally 20
>> How many years ago, man? That was like
0203.
>> Let [ __ ] grow up. Grow up.
>> Listen, by the way, I don't I'm with
you. People got to grow up on their own
time. But I'm going to tell you exactly
the moves I made personally, internally
to get to where I am now. But you know,
that's what that's what gets you there.
>> Like you said, I have that audio. It
somebody it probably be really hard to
find that anywhere else. Well, us right
now, a lot of the things we doing, it's
it's here and it's going to be it's
going to be on the internet forever.
Like you going to have to really go out
your way. That's what I'm saying. Like
we really don't have the threshold to
make a lot of the same mistakes if you
really trying to be in it for a long
time. Not just a good time.
>> Like cuz you can position yourself
somewhere where you can't get out of it.
>> You can position yourself somewhere
where you can't get out of it. If all
you want to do is go viral and not have
a voice that has value. That's why I be
on your little ball head all the time.
>> You and
I want you to be It's okay to give a
It's okay. Breathe. You're not
baldheaded
>> anymore. But
>> it's okay to be nice.
>> I be I point to certain people and I be
like, Lauren, you don't want to be like
that.
>> Yeah.
>> You know what I'm saying? Like, like you
want to have actual value and she got
it.
>> You know what I mean? Like there's
things that have happened to you over
the past couple of years that have g
given you a lot of value. I think the
puppy trial gave you a lot of value. You
know what I mean? And and I think the
things that you choose to report about,
even how you go about it when you're
picking up the phone, calling sources,
you know what I mean? Like that gives
you a lot of value. and I want you to
stay there. You want to have a voice
that has value. You don't want to be
just one of these [ __ ] just
constantly trying to go viral.
>> But the couple time when you have to
mess when you mess up in front of the
world and you see and feel that that's
why I'm saying like I it's no you can't
do you can only do but so much like you
got to really be tight right now
>> and you got to admit when you're wrong.
You know how many times I've given
myself donkey the other day? You know
how many times I had to get on the air
and apologize to somebody if I got if I
got something wrong or if I feel like I
harmed somebody in some way. There's
nothing wrong with that. Pay attention
to those kind of people. Pay attention
to the personalities who can't even
admit when they're wrong.
>> Who can't admit when they wrong. Who
can't just be like, "Yo, I was wrong."
You know what I mean? If you continuing
to make excuses when you just completely
got it wrong. Yeah.
>> How can we trust you? We already know we
can't trust you anyway, but now we know
we can't trust you.
>> What else we got? Taylor Gang.
>> Great combo.
>> I mean, how long have we done?
>> Oh, Alex got to go. All right. Let's do
some idiots. I'm I'm good. I'm good. I
pushed I pushed my mean. We good.
>> Oh, you did? Okay.
>> You want more or
>> Well, I mean, we can do some asking
idiots. I mean, I can Yeah, let's pay a
bill.
>> Taylor wants to go.
>> Well, you got I have a baby.
>> What else you got? You got more topics.
>> She got a kid.
>> I do though, but I don't
>> asking idiots.
>> I know, but I'm going say I do have
another one, but I don't know if I feel
like maybe Andrew would say more stuff.
>> Which one?
>> The guy that wants to be a woman now
transitioning going to WBA.
>> Oh, I've been seeing that a lot. Why you
said Andrew would
>> I just know you have a good comment or
is it
>> I don't I'mma be this whole I think this
[ __ ] is ridiculous. I don't know why
this is becoming a story again and I
cannot believe that people are falling
for tricks like this right before the
midterm elections.
>> That's what
>> like this is so dumb for Democrats to
even be going back down this road having
this conversation. And I hate when they
conflate two things because guess what?
I don't know why Sophia Cunningham was
asked this question, but if she's asked,
um, should biological men play in the
WNBA? The answer should be no.
>> That should be the answer from
everybody. Should biological people that
were born men play in the WNBA? No. Full
stop. Any other thing? There is no Whoa.
So, are you saying transgenders don't
have a right to MAN, SHUT THE [ __ ] UP. I
AIN'T SAYING nothing like that. You ask
me a specific question. Do transgenders
belong in the WNBA if you're born a
biological man. No. Okay.
>> What if they ask you the second question
first?
>> What's the second question?
>> Do you feel like transgender women have
a place in the NBA?
>> WHAT THE [ __ ] THAT GOT TO DO WITH
ANYTHING? I JUST DROPPED 20
[ __ ] POINTS AND 10 REBOUNDS.
WHY ARE YOU ASKING ME THIS [ __ ] THERE'S
NO TRANSGENDER.
Do you think transgender
>> women
>> women should have a Do you think
transgender do transgender women have a
place in the NBA?
>> I would say why are you asking me this?
>> Cuz I want to know the why. I want to
know why you give a [ __ ] Why are you
asking me this question?
>> Because I'm This is what they would say.
Because I'm a person who believes that
all people should matter. And if a
person identifies as something, we're in
America. They should
>> What that got to do with the WNBA?
>> Because we're
>> I agree with you. I believe all people
should matter, too. But what that got to
do with the WNBA?
>> They're women.
>> No, they don't.
>> Yeah, it's like the bathroom argument
sometimes.
>> Identifying as a woman. Cool. You got
all the right to do that. This is a free
country, but you shouldn't be allowed to
play in the WNBA.
>> I got a really good video after this.
>> Oh god. What is it?
>> What is it? Can I pay the bills? Taylor
going to
>> and do some asking idiot
>> here.
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Now, let's get back to the show. Let's
do some Asking Idiots. Taylor gang.
>> Hey, can I show you that clip?
>> Oh gosh.
>> Oh, it's mad funny to me.
>> What is it? And I feel like y'all should
think it's funny.
>> Give me context. First of all, Taylor,
this person is identifying as someone,
but
>> Oh gosh,
>> it's super funny. No, no, no, no, no.
It's not funny. Like, it's not like what
y'all think. Okay, ready?
>> This is a queer fat club. Um,
>> I'm queer and fat.
>> Okay, thank you for joining. We're just
um introducing ourselves at the moment.
>> Okay.
>> Do you want to go ahead and introduce
yourself, Joe?
>> Yeah. Uh, my name is Joe. I go by he
they and uh I identify as 275 lbs.
>> Okay. Okay. Um
>> I feel like Jay is kind of making fun of
me though. I know it's kind of a shock.
I know it's kind of a new thing. I'm
>> I'm just you know
>> dude what?
>> I said I apologize.
>> Oh no, you're good.
>> Um are you comfortable leaving the group
at the moment?
>> Why? Why?
>> I'm I'm not understanding why you're
joining the group.
>> This is the queer and fat group now.
>> Yeah. Yeah.
>> Yeah. That's what I came here for.
>> Okay. Um, and you said you identify as
fat.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay. Um, this is just for fatbodied
people.
>> Yeah, I understand. I I identify as a
fat-bodied person.
>> I'm not understanding where you're
coming from.
>> Are you guys comfortable with me here? I
mean, I'm pretty chill on my end.
>> I'm not comfortable. No.
>> Can we take like a vote?
>> I'm going to ask.
>> That's true though. Why can't he be
there? That's how I felt about Rachel
Doz.
>> You wanted her to be with us. Yeah,
that's two that's two different
situations. Don't do that.
>> Why not? Yeah, why not?
>> Why not?
>> Because she's trying to be It's
basically blackface. Hello. Let's think
about history.
>> She identifies as a a woman of color.
>> She's not though. She could Why can't
she come in as her own self, not being a
black person?
>> Drake identifies as a black man and you
love saying that he not.
>> He's an African Canadian.
>> You
need to learn how to be more inclusive,
Taylor.
>> Yeah. Can we do some masking?
>> Just allow someone to dress like us.
>> No, but she's saying that they're black,
>> but she's living the lifestyle.
>> You let men do it with your gender.
>> Huh?
>> You let men do it with your gender.
>> Tell her don't
>> don't. You are a mother.
>> You let men do it with your gender.
>> You are a mother. You have better things
to do.
>> I'm just asking. You let men do it with
your gender. Why can't somebody do it
with your race?
>> Yep.
>> You let men do a lot of things. Okay. We
let you rock. Taylor continue.
>> Do some asking idiots. Taylor gang.
Taylor gang gang.
>> He not wrong though.
>> By the way, I didn't say
>> about him letting men do things to him.
>> Shout out to Brandy too. Brandy, I think
you did a good job with the different
world theme song. I think the problem is
everybody comparing it to the Artha one,
>> but each each time but each each one cuz
like the Artha one is so different than
the Boys and Men one. Like it's supposed
to be like
>> That's what I'm saying. You shouldn't be
comparing none of them
>> of it. Yeah.
>> It's new energy. It's a whole new
reboot. We don't even know what this
show going to be about for real.
like let them cook.
>> Dwayne Wade and Whitley's daughter goes
to Hillman and she's trying to make her
own pathway, but she's living in their
shadow and she's rebellious. So,
there'll be some twisting.
>> I love this. I The reason I love stuff
like this is because I feel like there's
so many people from our our era, not
y'all cuz y'all babies, but our era that
did not get they just do. I don't I
still don't feel like the Kadim Hardes,
the Jasmine Gods of the world got their
just do from from different way. That
was the number two show in the world. M
>> Cosby Show was number one.
>> Different World was a spin-off of Cosby
Show
>> and it was the number two show in the
world. Cosby Show was the number one
show in the world. Different World was
the number
>> I think we don't know that cuz it was so
long ago for us.
>> But people knew Cosby show.
>> I mean people talk about
>> Everybody know Different World.
>> But I don't know if we talk about it
like that.
>> Yo, hold on. I never heard um like my
sister loved that show. I haven't heard
people not from America know about
>> Different World.
>> Really?
>> Yeah.
>> Like the way they talk about uh
>> What about Martin?
>> They'll talk about like Martin Friends.
>> Yeah. They'll know Martin. They'll know
Fresh Prince. I haven't heard anybody
say Different World.
>> I think so.
>> Hold on.
>> I'mma look Let me look this up. Episode
of Different World.
>> They'll know Jersey Shore for some
reason. Everybody knows Jersey. hurt by
no Paulie and um
>> Snookie.
>> I don't think y'all remember how many
people was watching TV back in the 90s.
>> No, cuz it felt like it was just you in
your house
until we got Twitter in like MySpace.
>> Yeah, I know.
>> Um
>> What are you looking for?
>> Hold on. The
>> I don't know if I want it in millions. I
don't want percentage.
>> I don't know if it was the number two
show in the world, bro. It was
>> maybe in America.
>> Okay. You know what? I said the world.
You're right. America. In America. In
America. Because Cosby was number one.
>> America.
>> All right. Check this out. 1988. The
season 2 premiere of Different World.
How many think How many people you think
watched it? The season 2 premiere.
>> 1988.
>> 20 million.
>> How much?
>> 20 million.
>> What' you think?
>> I think less. Maybe three.
>> What' you think? H. Uh, I'm going to go
10.
>> 34.3
million viewers.
>> Whoa.
>> Season 3 premiere 1989. How many How
many How many you think watched the
show?
>> 75 million.
>> Season 3 premiere 1989. How much you
think?
>> No, I'm going say 50.
>> I know, right? No, I'm going say
>> No, I'm going say 80.
>> 36.6.
>> Okay.
>> My point is it was only three channels,
guys. Maybe four. Fox might have just
been around at the time.
>> There was nothing else to do.
>> There was no internet.
>> Like everybody that was the LA that that
what was it called it? Monoculture. That
was the like the last era of monoculture
where everybody would gather around to
watch one thing
>> and you didn't get no rerun.
>> How much how much was it?
>> Still surprised America's makeup that
you get number seven.
>> That's what I'm surprised.
>> It came on right after Cosby show.
>> Yeah.
>> I don't even remember that. What? Like
that was way before
>> the biggest documented audience for an
episode of Different World. 36.6
million.
>> Watching TV. I remember it was only
about like a 100 channels then.
>> I remember a certain amount of channels
on cable.
>> Netflix ain't bringing back Different
World for no reason, bro.
>> That's a monster.
>> Netflix trying to bring back everything.
>> Well, good. Thank you. God bless
Netflix. Keep on doing it. Okay. Let's
continue to do more content together.
All right. Let's do some asking idiots.
What racial stereotype from any race
would you like to have?
>> Uh,
>> I got them all cuz I'm black.
>> Hey, we got the best
>> from like another race like white like
they say like white people smell like
wet dog or
>> god damn.
>> I would say um Asian like the karate
[ __ ]
>> Why you laughing?
>> Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait. Say
that again. Say that again. Say it
again.
>> Why you laughing? What's she getting at?
>> I don't want people to think I DON'T
KARATE.
WHY YOU LAUGHING about that? See that?
That's not bad. What's wrong with that?
>> That was great. No, that's awesome
though. That's awesome. That's fine.
>> You getting too many of these.
>> What racial stereotype from any all the
ones I would want from black people.
>> Um I would like the
>> another race
>> Jewish stereotype where they feel that
they all work together.
>> Unity and group operation. Oh, I like
that. I like that.
>> I like that.
>> I like that. Yeah. You now that I think
about it. Yeah. My other Yeah. My other
stereotypes I would take from Jewish
people.
>> I knew that was going to be
>> Absolutely.
>> You got all that money.
>> It don't have nothing to do with money,
girl.
>> Still working together.
>> They practice union and group operation.
They pull their resources. Okay. Like I
I like I like how Jewish people get
down. I don't know what to tell you. I
don't know about I haven't studied other
races enough to know. But Jewish people,
I like how they get down. Okay. When it
comes to
>> business and how they move amongst each
other.
>> Don't know what to tell you. That
wouldn't be a bad stereotype for us to
have. Gay,
>> it would be a good Okay.
>> No, I'm not against
>> cuz you know what they say about us. All
we do is get online and hate on each
other all day, every day. Okay. All we
do is
>> Why do us as black people always say the
other races don't do that? White people
definitely do be hating on each other
too though. Like why
>> I don't give a [ __ ] what THE OTHER RACES
DO WE DO.
>> BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I'm saying though?
People like we always compare ourselves
like they're not We don't know what's in
their business like that. Like
>> we don't know what's on white Twitter.
Exactly.
>> By the way, you know why? Cuz they
probably shut the [ __ ] up and don't go
at each other publicly.
>> No, no, no. When I used to be in my old
job, their little algorithms I used to
be like, "What is that? What?" Like,
even like down the shows that they're
watching, they be talking about be like,
"What is this?" Everybody's talking
about it where not over here. They have
their own little thing.
>> Yeah.
>> Anyways, but whatever,
>> man. Y'all [ __ ] just be hating on each
other.
>> I don't know what to tell you. It's like
is is AI. But no, you're right. I mean,
other other cultures do do it as well,
>> right? We act like I don't like that.
>> But they do it. I'm tell But it's by
>> trying to Twitter.
>> It's by design.
That's what I want y'all to understand.
That's why I keep telling y'all to read
this book called Technofudalism.
What killed capitalism. They literally
monetize our emotions.
>> Who wrote it? What's What's
>> It's I can't uh I can't even pronounce
his name. I was texting with him, too,
cuz I want to get him on Breakfast Club.
Uh
>> what's it called? That's probably a long
ass text thread.
>> Technofutilism
will kill capitalism.
>> Paragraphs, don't y'all.
>> No, no, we just only text a couple
times. Um Sutan Hassan Pah actually uh
connected me with him.
>> Yeah. Uh what's my guy's name? Pull it
up. I want to say I can't remember his
name right now, but um they monetize our
emotions.
>> The cloud capital is conflict every day.
>> Yeah.
>> [ __ ] get online and be arguing
about [ __ ] You think this [ __ ] is by
design?
>> Giannis
verakus.
>> I think you pronounced it right. Taylor
black. She can read [ __ ]
>> You don't even know how to pronounce it.
>> Shut up.
>> You don't even know how to pronounce it.
I know she pronounced RIGHT. GIANNIS I
THINK. YEAH. GIANNIS. I think she
pronounced
>> I feel like he just threw a stereotype
on you.
>> I
>> That's fine.
>> Because he was so surprised you
pronounced something right.
>> Yeah. I don't know why you act like you
don't think I could read.
>> I don't know WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
We go Can we go to another national go
read techn
projecting cuz he
>> I don't know what Lauren just did. I
don't know why Lauren even did that.
>> I'll be gaslighting.
>> I CAN'T PRONOUNCE IT. Y'ALL KNOW I
COULDN'T. I CAN'T.
>> YOU KNOW WHY? YOU KNOW I be gaslighting.
>> Giannis,
>> what do you want me to do?
>> I want to do another asking.
>> Oh, I thought you were trying to lick me
thing. Okay,
>> I read the book. Y'all need to
>> um scroll up taps. You already got
>> Do you have time to read all these books
for fun
>> at home? It's $160 in a week at home.
>> You got four daughters. You have a wife.
You got 50,000 businesses
>> and he's rich. He has time to
>> stop saying that.
>> Like I honestly when you be like, "Yeah,
I just read this book when
when you have other people handling
stuff you have."
>> And how long do y'all think it takes to
read a book? You know what y'all need to
do? go on Audible and look how long a
book is, right? Like so that
technofudalism book might be like seven
hours, eight hours on Audible if you're
listening to it.
>> So then you dedicate the a lot of time a
day.
>> You sit down and read a couple hours
>> about your book. I I got to get like
that.
>> What are you doing when you uh go home?
Like
>> nothing.
>> That's when
>> Don't do that. She is working from work
from work to home like work and job. I'm
from work to work and then I sleep and
then I get up and I do it all over
again. On the weekends, I might take a
little bit of time for personal joy.
>> Oh, okay. Well,
>> but if we have people coming in, I'll
try to like start early enough like like
if we like a month out from an author,
I'll try to get through as much as I
can.
>> But Lord, I don't know how he has the
he's you must be really disciplined in
real life.
>> And I read a lot of the same books. Like
I'm reading Seed of the Soul by Gary
Zukov again. And what made me want to
read it again is because I was listening
to uh Kiki and Oprah
>> her podcast and I was like yeah I want
to read G because I I've read it like
three, four, five times in my life. I
was like you know what that's a good
reread and
>> but you're reading that in the back of
your car service.
>> Exactly.
>> So you got to get to the car
>> you got to get you got to get to the car
service level.
>> Marco Polo on the plane at home instead
of scrolling all [ __ ] day.
>> Pick up a book.
>> Do you drive in or you take the train? I
drive.
>> Check your screen, huh? How How long you
been on your phone?
>> My screen time is crazy, Charlene,
because I I need to know what's
happening.
>> I got to find time.
>> It's been stuff happening here. I've
been screenshotting to show you.
>> She's trying Exactly, though. She's
>> There's a lot happening right now with
you literally online. I'm getting alerts
right now.
>> What?
>> Nothing crazy. I would have stopped
episode and told you. But just, you
know, the regular the usual suspects.
>> There's nothing crazy in my life. Okay.
>> I I know you have cars and book time.
>> I've been through it all. There's
nothing online a [ __ ] can say
about me that's like, "Oh my god, this
is crazy. I got to stop everything I'm
doing."
>> Like, who gives a [ __ ]
>> I can't stop. I really, who
>> I said if it was crazy, I would have
stopped you. None of it is crazy. But
you see, I these are all news. These are
news alerts.
>> Exactly. Now, now you can't.
>> No, I'm just saying what it is.
>> Babe, can you
>> They done did like five post.
>> You know what's crazy?
>> I wait for the day that I get alerts.
>> Your name. Yeah. Like that's a good
thing. Don't you upload to YouTube?
>> Yeah, but not like
>> this is great.
>> You you could you'll talk.
>> Yeah, I don't even know how to do it.
>> Okay. Marco Polo 2293 says, "Out of your
nieces, who's made you the most proud?
Charlotte, Lauren, Nyla, Taylor, etc."
>> No, they're asking you Charlotte.
Remember how you yell at me about not
reading Charlotte? Then they name me,
Nyla, Taylor. Who are all your nieces?
>> I mean, none of them cuz they ain't
married yet. When they get [ __ ]
married, then I'll be proud.
>> Damn.
>> Taylor's Taylor's going to be the first.
>> Damn.
>> It should be Nyla.
>> Lauren going to be outside till
>> So marriage is always
>> No, I'm not. Lauren's not outside now.
>> Anything that matters.
>> And if I am outside, I don't want my
man.
>> Why do you care about marriage so much?
>> Because he knows how stupid he was until
he got
>> more than anything else. That
professional [ __ ] y'all be doing. Y'all
think that professional [ __ ] is like
that's cool, but like the real things in
life, there's nothing more important to
you than there's nothing more important
to you than Lil P.
>> No, absolutely. But I'm saying though,
>> you don't give a [ __ ] about your dog no
more.
>> Think about that. You used to call that
your child.
>> You don't give a [ __ ]
>> YOU HAVEN'T YOU HAVEN'T BROUGHT HIM TO
WORK IN A WHILE. BUT why though?
>> The dog be chasing little piece. She be
like, "Get the [ __ ] out of here.
>> At work often, it's like I don't give a
[ __ ] about I don't even know what that
dog's eating. We ain't even seen
pictures of that dog."
>> Yes, you have. Anyways, you forgot what
you were going to say.
>> No, I don't understand why like it's to
me it's Yeah, the title's cool, but it's
about building with someone. Like, so
that's what I'm saying. Like, regardless
of a marriage though, it's about
building with someone. So, why you put
so much pressure on the title?
>> No, you need a title.
>> Okay. How long have you been trying to
get a title at Iheart?
>> You want your title?
>> Do that.
>> You want your title?
>> I don't want no title at Iheart.
>> AH, YOU'RE A LIAR. You want that title.
>> No, I don't.
>> Yes, you do.
>> I really don't. Yes, you do.
>> I want to build my own empire. So, I'm
good. And be boss.
>> Yeah. Title.
>> But it's cool though cuz you want to be
able to call your girl something.
>> Bae boo. My lady. My wife. That's my
wife. That's the mother of my child.
>> How's that anyway though? You know what
I mean? Like I'm trying to No,
>> no. For real. Are you one of them
freethinkers that are like I don't need
marriage. We don't like we don't even
need paperwork. You know what's funny? I
meant I I grew to be like that though.
>> She's just
>> You know why? No. No. You know why I'm
saying that though? Because
>> is that her wedding and jagged edges
playing?
>> I'm going to be crying,
>> balling.
>> I'm not I'm going to have my back.
Come on. She going to be balling.
Definitely doing better.
>> Doing the bouquet of [ __ ] what
we do is wrong. She going to be
>> to be honest. Can I put that right over
>> because we didn't do it traditionally is
why I'm like we're building something
regardless though. Like so that's why
I'm saying the title to me is
>> it's cool but age.
>> I don't know who's made me the most
proud. I don't think about stuff like
that. All of them make me proud.
>> They do.
All y'all do make me proud in different
ways.
>> They do. I've watched all of y'all grow
up so much. I mean, Taylor and Nyla, cuz
I've seen them longer, but like, you
know, it's it's weird. I've watched I
when Nyla first came to interview for
her internship, I went and introduced
myself. Mhm.
>> Like, so it's just like to watch people
just grow and not give up on their
dreams and like be doing what they want
to do, that [ __ ] is dope. You know what
I mean? To watch Taylor
grow and, you know, go from being a
producer to now being the head of
imaging and like creating the sound of
Breakfast Club and, you know, being a
lonely ass girl searching for a man to
now have a guy and a family. That [ __ ]
is dope to me. You know what I mean?
>> That girl is crazy. I was never lonely.
what you
>> right do not do that
>> even watching Lauren's journey to see
Lauren come from TMZ and and not even to
really understand how much she was
grinding to even be here but to hear the
story and you know see what she put in
and to see what she is now that [ __ ] is
dope like
>> okay
>> you could do that
KEEP IT RIGHT THERE DON'T MAKE IT THING
DON'T MAKE IT A thing
it's dope like I she don't have nothing
else except the professional [ __ ] Like
I can't say that I can't say ANYTHING
LIKE SHE GOT I'M NOT EVEN GOING TO LIE.
I was looking at you cuz I'm like there
got to be signs of A STROKE.
>> I JUST I just don't have anything. I
don't can't be like oh she got married.
I can't do that. I can't do none of
that. Like you know um Mr. Derek Jr.
says why do you think humans can't get
along social media?
>> Humans can get along.
>> No we can't. Yes.
>> Way before social media. What do you
mean
>> and resources? because
>> resources are not evenly distributed uh
on this planet and never have been.
There's always somebody who's going to
always have more and that is going to
always cause dysfunction. That is going
to always cause chaos. That is going to
always cause conflict.
>> That's just the way that it is. If we
moved with more reverence, that's so
crazy cuz that's what the uh I just read
in Seed of the Soul. Uh they got a
chapter called reverence and they was
like, "Yo, we have to start having more
reverence for each other as people."
Because when you just have reverence for
a person, you're going to move
differently. You're going to treat them
the way you would like to be treated.
>> Like like a regard for a person,
>> high regard for a person. You know what
I'm saying? Like that you you have to
have that for other individuals in order
for you to want to actually see a person
um have what you have essentially. So
you know, uh Adrian. Pledo 594. How do
you rebuild trust in a relationship when
I got caught cheating? I still love him.
That's a question for the ladies, man.
How does a man rebuild trust?
>> First of all, she probably was cheating
back.
>> Oh, she
>> Yeah, she probably was cheating back.
So, that's number one. Let's just say
that.
>> Why? What? How do you And then,
>> wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What? What
are you talking about?
>> And then secondly,
>> so she did him wrong and you're saying,
"Oh, he must have [ __ ] up."
>> Yeah. Um,
>> all right. That's No. I think no matter
man or woman, it's just about the
action. If they are willing to stick
around and see what your action
execution is after, it's all about that.
And you have to be honest and own up to
what you did. Like because if you get
caught, normally a person knows enough
because they're catching you. Don't talk
around. Talk directly to what you did. I
did it. Here's what happened. Because I
think cheating builds like deeper issues
where you're trying to figure out like
why. Like a person always wants to know
the why. even if there's no why. So, if
you're like sending somebody on like a
mental spin when they're already
spinning, it just makes things worse.
>> That's how you dealt with it.
>> When I cheated in my past relationship,
>> I was so gone at that point. I I it was
just like
>> So, you didn't try to work things out?
>> I mean, we were still together, but it
was I was reacting to something. I
didn't just go cheat. I cheated back.
>> Oh, that's why you think for me back.
>> Yeah. So for me in my past relationship
it was like yeah I got caught but like
you did too. So what we going to do?
>> I think
>> and that wasn't good though. It wasn't
good. Huh?
>> It's a wrap up.
>> No, you can get caught cheating and
Yeah, that's not true. All men a lot of
men that
>> you would you've never been cheated on.
I promise you stay with a person.
>> No, I I didn't stay.
>> But why though? Why didn't you work it
out?
Because the loyalty is done. Like,
>> but why? Why is it?
>> What you mean? Because she cheated.
>> But why is it? No, I'm asking that
because women can forgive men of
cheating. So, I'm asking why is it like
why?
>> Next question.
>> No, for real. How do you rebuild trust,
Taylor?
>> Um,
>> when you got caught cheating, how did
you rebuild?
>> I got though, I'm different though cuz
if I'm cheating, then I really don't
want the relationship. That's how that's
what I'm saying. That's how I was.
>> If a man cheated on me,
>> um, for me, so look, I would say that I
wouldn't I I would never go back to
them. Like I'm men cheated and I pepper-
sprayed one and also the other one I
left. So
>> that's nice. Pepper spraying is nice.
>> It It is nice cuz I
>> She's classy.
>> Yeah. But
stupid. But um it depends if the girl
wants you back. Honestly, if the girl
don't want you back, then you can't
rebuild the trust first. I don't know
the situation.
>> But if she does like you see still care,
I would say then he has to be consistent
like overly communicate where he's at,
where like all that. So that's a
>> next question. Women cheat different.
>> Uh there's no more you guys.
>> Yeah, I do.
>> Women cheat different.
>> Yeah, Charlotte, wrap it up.
>> Wait, hold on. No, wrap it up.
>> Why you saying you cheating? They're
saying men can be emotionally
unconnected or something something. So
that's where to go to.
>> Yeah. A man cheating don't mean nothing.
Yes.
>> How do y'all think that? It's emotion
that comes from.
>> It's really not.
>> None. It's really not.
>> You just Who just said though that
>> I'm not I'm not I'm not saying that men
can't grow to like somebody else or love
somebody else.
>> No, but yes, they can. But most of the
time emotion of why you're cheating. If
you vow to be loyal to this person,
that's an emotion you going like if
>> and you know as a woman. Well, have you
ever dealt with someone? Have you ever
been the person that's like someone's in
a relationship and you're dealing with
them? Have you ever has that ever
happened to you?
>> I've been the person that was dealing
with someone and that was in a situation
in a relationship and you know that that
is not true. It depends on that what
where they are in that relationship. You
can cheat and catch feelings and do all
these things. I'm not trying to hear
that. So, if you make a decision to open
yourself up to even potentially that
happen in a relationship,
>> to me, it's like that is like the
ultimate like uh-uh, no.
>> I think that men don't be wanting
anything except for to get their dick
sucked sometime. And I don't think that
it has anything to do with the woman
whatsoever. I think that men sometimes
look at women as an escape. And when
we're trying to escape whatever we may
be dealing with, sometimes it's alcohol,
sometimes it's drugs, most of the time
it's women. And that's just the reality
of the situation.
>> Why?
>> And it has nothing to do with the woman
that we love and we're with.
>> Just different.
>> It we just we just got our dick sucked
real quick. It's different for women.
>> Be the same for a man that just lick my
click real quick.
>> I don't believe women are built like
that like that.
>> I just don't You said the word.
>> I know. I don't move. She She's even
surprised that you said that. Y'all
don't move like that. I don't believe
women are built like that. I just don't.
I could be wrong. I just
>> literally we're just big enough Mandy
and Weezy.
>> Like y'all don't think we can, but
that's that's honest. That's like one of
our biggest advantages is the fact that
you guys don't think we're capable of
it. So then we make you feel like you're
more than what you are. And we know you
not. You said, "How did I know between
the two men?" They never were that. I
knew that.
>> That's how y'all be cheating different.
Y'all do all this extra stuff.
>> Too much emotion. All this extra brains.
Y'all have
>> like I said with our brain we cheat
>> we understand y'all don't have no
metacognition though a lot of times
>> like me and you can't think about your
thinking
>> like I can think about my thinking
>> I can think about my thinking now do I
do I always want to hold myself
accountable for what I realize when I
think about my thinking uh exactly
depending on the day
>> metacognition lets me know that if just
cuz I'm with another woman I that means
it's it don't mean anything now now now
now can you have feelings for another
woman. Yes. But that don't mean I'm
about to leave and you know be with this
person and and and leave my happy home.
Have I seen other men that happened to?
Yes. But you know what I really
attribute that to? That really was who
that person was supposed to be with.
>> Like if you've been with a woman for a
long time and then you get with another
woman and you know you've been with that
woman for you you end up being with that
woman for 25 30 years. That's the woman
you were supposed to be with. I got
plenty OG's in my life. I've seen that
happen too. They were married for 25
years. out with another woman was with
their woman for
>> cuz you don't be knowing what be going
on in the marriages, you don't be
knowing none of that circumstance. But
if you were with a good woman and you're
supposed to be so happy and all that and
you still out here cheating.
>> Yeah.
>> Y'all, it's something with y'all. Like
we don't do that. Like if we are happy
and we are good, we're not just out here
looking cheap.
>> So you just you just prove my point. I
say y'all cheat differently.
>> But when we do go cheat, we can be just
as vile and as
>> I'm not saying you can't do that, but y
I don't different.
>> I think women can. It's not not all
women. If they from Florida, they care.
>> Damn.
Damn, Mandy and Weezy. No, no, no, no.
Stop it. That's all people from Florida.
>> Shout out to Big Whezy getting married.
That's another wedding I can't look
forward to go to. Can't wait to go to
Weezy wedding.
>> The same way I know. Congratulations.
Um, but the same way that
>> Damn it. I had it. It's all right. [ __ ]
Sorry. No, no, no. I do remember.
>> I knew you was about to say this.
>> No, no, no. the same way how y'all think
that we're more emotional. Like I don't
think y'all understand.
>> No, no, no. I don't think that.
>> Okay. So, do you think that
>> I think men are way more emotional.
>> Okay. Okay. I was about to say like I
don't understand that aspect of
>> and podcast mics and prove that for us
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