Don't Move to New Zealand Without Watching This FIRST

Okay, don't move to New Zealand until you've done this first. This is what we're talking about today. And what we're specifically talking about is checking out the country. Okay. I was surprised, honestly. I've been working with Americans moving to New Zealand for about 6 years now, and I would say 70 to 80% of them go and visit first because it's logical, right? You're moving your whole family across the world. You want to go visit the country before you go. I mean, we didn't. I didn't because well we're crazy. But that's a story for another day. [laughter] But what's even better than visiting the country is to actually do a relocation tour. And this is why I brought Colton on with Impact Journeys. And he's going to share with you his relocation tours. He is an American who has lived in New Zealand and is now doing tours helping Americans figure out is New Zealand number one right for you? And if it is, where what region makes sense for you? It's really great. And just to highlight, there are some things that you do on this tour that are super helpful and honestly, in my opinion, necessary in order to actually make the jump to New Zealand. So, you're going to want to listen up. And this is going to be a great episode. Um, so yeah, welcome Colton. I'm so excited to have you on the channel today. >> Thanks, Tara. I'm happy to be here and talk about why this is a good idea. >> Yeah. Nice. So, so yeah, me and Colton kind of connected because well, we we've lived in New Zealand and we love it and all of that, but also, uh, you know, I have clients that are moving and he does relocation tours and and it's just like amazing what they do. And so, before we dive into all of the tours and everything, let's just kind of get, you know, a little bit of background. If you guys don't know me, I moved my family of six from the US to New Zealand in 2013. Um, and we've been back and forth and back and forth. So, you can watch my channel for all of the details on on that. But since about 2021, I've helped other Americans move to New Zealand. It has been the joy of my life, to be honest. So, um but yeah, so you know my story. You can watch the channel for our, you know, our adventures through New Zealand, but Colton has also lived in New Zealand and um yeah, so why don't you share a little bit about your story about how you kind of came about? >> Great. Uh so I moved there in 2022. Now at this point in my life now I've actually lived overseas three times in >> Chile, uh Scotland and New Zealand. >> And the place that I found myself going back to and and it's for culture, it's for work life balance is is New Zealand. And >> I I've worked in tourism for four and a half years now. um guiding as well as planning and booking side and I was working with like corporate incentives in New Zealand. So we would do full country tours, show them all the touristy spots and it was a good industry. I mean just showing people the wonders of New Zealand is amazing. Not everybody goes there to just explore and have a great time because they're they're being sent there by their company. And so I would tell them amazing things about New Zealand and a lot of them just wanted to drink. So we would go to the Malbor region and and it blew my mind. I'm like, you're in New Zealand [laughter] >> and >> Oh my gosh, I'm so with you on that. >> Yeah, they were they were sneaking tequila into the vineyards, which is crazy enough by myself. So >> Okay. I'm not sure New Zealand's right for you guys. [laughter] >> Yeah, I mean it wasn't. and >> and it was a good job. I I liked booking it. I liked working with corporate clients, but we at Impact Journeys, we kind of wanted to do something else. We want to do something a little bit more meaningful, a little bit more impactful for the people that want to see the country. And and so that's that's when we stumbled upon on this idea. And honestly, it from our first conversation, it blew my mind that no one else out there is doing this. >> I know. Like, how are people not doing it? Because I have like tour companies like by city that I've worked with in the past or recommended, but nobody's doing like a full country tour. So, yeah. >> Yeah. I And we were blown away. And especially with legislation being really behind Americans right now, American migrants, they've made the pathways easier now. uh especially for the active investor plus visa that's that bar has been lowered and they want Americans there and Americans want to go there but nobody's showing off the country. >> No, I know. And this is like literally Oh my gosh, I'm so glad that you said it like that because that's why I did the channel because I'm living in New Zealand. I'm like no what is this is like a secret place. How is nobody talking about how great this place is? And this is like shocking to me. And like the thing is like when I talk to Kiwis, they're like, you know, and like they have no idea. They have no idea what they have. And that is the whole point of this channel. You have no idea what you have there. >> Yeah. I was just talking to a friend and he went and visited New Zealand. When he was in his 20s, he wanted to live there so bad and he never did make it out. Now he's in his 40s and he visits for the second time and he comes back and he goes, "Man, I hate the Kiwis." And I was like, "You hate the Kiwis? How can you hate the Kiwis? They're the nicest, >> nicest, >> most trusting people in the world." And and he goes, "No, I hate them for being able to live in New Zealand their whole lives and having all that opportunity and I don't." He's like, "It's a selfish hate because I'm so jealous." >> No. Right. They have They're like, they're always complaining the jobs, you know, and certain things are hard. There's no perfect place. Okay. Not like no, you know, I'm not trying to say that or diminish someone's frustration with things. It's just like we're not even talking on the same playing field, you know, because like I'll say like how safe it is compared to the US and like you I mean they just like this is like read the comments. You can read the comments and all myself and they're just like >> no it's terrible. It's like okay. [laughter] >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. just you need a baseline of comparison. >> They don't even have guns. Go to Detroit. Guns like it's not the same. So yeah, it's not the same. But >> actually, I just have one thing before we move in. So I think that this would be interesting to the audience. So you've lived in other countries and you thought that New Zealand was >> that much more amazing. Like talk a little bit about that because I think that that's insightful, right? because we think we don't really know, you know, and I haven't I think New Zealand's amazing, but I haven't been everywhere. You haven't been everywhere, you know, but like what about New Zealand was more appealing than the others place. >> Okay. Okay. So, of course, living in Chile, I lived there for two years. I actually worked uh for my church organization. >> Um, and I was there, we were kind of in the the poverish parts of [clears throat] Chile. >> Okay. And it I wouldn't describe it as welcoming. Um people most of it was why are you here >> kind of thing and and living in Chile uh it was a big hurdle culturally >> uh with the language barrier. >> All the language that's true >> took me a year and a half. So, I mean, Americans going to New Zealand, I mean, there's no language barrier, >> right? There's no >> And and that actually allowed me to bring on some of my closest friends and my siblings to come down with me and explore this country with me >> cuz there wasn't the language barrier. I I learned Spanish, but they didn't have to learn English >> to come to New Zealand. So, that was just the initial plus of it. >> Yeah, that's true. Because you could integrate into a culture so much quicker. >> Yeah. because there's already so many things. Even if you think you understand New Zealand and you've been there a year, you've been there two years, you don't. >> I'm here to tell you that you don't. You're thinking you understand, but you're missing it. There's a whole there's layers underneath that are different. And just imagine trying to overcome that. I think it would take 20 years if you didn't >> in a different language. Yeah. Exactly. Right. >> And of course, we've also lived in in Scotland and we were we were in the north of Scotland. So Glasgow, which is the biggest city in Scotland, and uh we have to be there for the winters and the falls for my wife's school. >> Okay. >> And man, the weather there is dark and gloomy. >> It's brutal. >> And people aren't that fond of Americans there either. >> They >> interesting. >> And that that's just for my experience in the little community that I shared in in Scotland. I mean, they're nice, amazing, awesome people. >> Yeah. But out on the streets, uh, it it wasn't the same cultural like, "Hey, how you doing? Good morning." Um, and you don't find that in America as much either. But then go down to New Zealand. When I stepped onto an Air New Zealand flight to Auckland, there's smiles, there's waving, there's good morning. And and at first it was like a culture shock. And I'm like, "Oh, do we know each other?" No. Okay. >> Oh my gosh. I'm so glad you said that. >> Yeah. >> That was my experience. That was my experience on Air New Zealand. You walking onto Air New Zealand and you're in New Zealand. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because the people there are just so welcoming. Like, why are you going to That's so awesome. >> And And I felt that when I lived in New Zealand, it was by far the most welcoming country I've ever lived in. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. cuz like I would literally I rocked up to the Air New Zealand counter with four kids and tow by myself like this and I was I can't imagine the look that was on my face. >> Yeah. >> So exhausted because I just it was a whole thing. I had I was in LA which you know enough said. Okay, kids, all by myself. Going to get on this, you know, 14-hour flight. And they I mean, they came up to me and were like, "Let me help you. Let me do I didn't have to say anything. I didn't say any words. They just read it all here." And then like they gave me a different seat that had like an extra space for my baby and they they got a little bed for the baby. [clears throat] None of this was paid for by me. >> Yeah. I was like, they just saw me that sweating and stressed and they just accommodated because they could. I mean, obviously if the seat was not available, but they were so great and they even held the baby during the >> I can't see. >> And they're they're intuitive. I think they're intuitive. >> That's what I noticed. Yeah. >> So, so thoughtful, you know, they weren't just like doing a job like this is just how you're raised there. >> Yeah. >> Because I've seen it everywhere. It's a phenomenal and and I I I would say that is the culminating difference uh that I found in between all these places because I there's amazing adventure opportunities in the Patagonia where I was in Chile >> like totally >> kayaking cave exploration >> and there was amazing I mean visiting the Scottish Highlands is incredible. So you get that nature fix in each of the places I've lived. >> That's a good point. >> But the New Zealand has with the nature fix, the the culture fix where you're it's so welcoming and and you you just want to be a part of a community and Americans uh love them, but uh we're very individualistic. It's just the way we've been raised. It's it's >> think of numero uno first and it's [laughter] it's number one all the time. >> Yeah. and ambition and and there is that in New Zealand, but it's also you're a part of a of a greater hole. >> Yes. And it just I've never met people that are more helpful. I could I mean and you've heard me if you've been listening to my videos like story after story. My car breaks down, someone helps me, you know, someone just offering and then like you're sick and people are bringing you food. Like I'm barely sick. Like I haven't like been run over, you know? Yeah. >> And they're like and they're just like they're so thoughtful. It's like I feel like they put me to shame. [laughter] >> Yeah. You feel guilty >> for for not being as as amazing as they are. >> No, I know I'm not amazing. I'm not as amazing. But I've gotten better because I've saw an example of what it looks like. And when you don't have an example, you don't know. You don't necessarily know that you're not doing it. You always think I could do more. But like you don't know what it really looks like. how to really take care of friends and and like especially for immigrants moving to New Zealand, they don't have family. They don't know anybody. Their friends become their family and and in a lot of ways you can pick your family then [laughter] and and it's and it's really lovely and my friends are my family in New Zealand. So, >> and I I like that point that you brought up that you can pick your family, but there's a couple caveats with that. Mhm. >> When you don't know the family that you're picking and you don't have that preliminary experience, uh, where I I originally moved like middle downtown Auckland, right in the center. >> You did? Okay. >> Yeah. So, I was I was just a block away from the Sparks Arena. >> Okay. Got it. >> Like middle downtown and uh kind of by uh Auckland Domain Park. >> Okay. and which is beautiful. For people who have lived in New Zealand or are going, go to Auckland Domain Park. The the museum there and the winter garden is just it's amazing. Uh but what I found is all of my community that I ended up building, like you said, the family that I chose ended up being on the Northshore. >> Oh, interesting. >> So, if I could go back and do it again, I would go and find a place on the Northshore. maybe Takapuna, even though that's a little bit more expensive and not Devonport because that's a lot more expensive. But if I was up because the only way to get up there originally when I didn't have a car was to take that bus over the Bay Bridge >> and it it was a sacrifice. Anytime I wanted to play on the the soccer games that we had with my community going up there, anytime I wanted to hang out with anyone, it was a travel, >> right? And so if I had gone and visited the Northshore community, got to know people there, and realized this is kind of the people that I most connected with, I honestly would have gone to the Northshore first. >> Interesting. >> Yeah, >> that's a good point. That's a good point. And also and and in fairness though, like I mean, Auckland is the most spread out. If you move to Wellington, you move to Christ Church, you're not having the same journeys. Yeah, [laughter] across way or a smaller area even Nelson and whatnot. So, >> okay, cool. So, we know your story. You've been to New Zealand, you love New Zealand. So, let's talk about impact journeys like how this tour thing kind of came around. >> Yeah. Uh, so in my journey in New Zealand, we there there was it wasn't all amazing. There were definitely some hiccups. Um, I was I originally jumped through hostiles until I found that apartment that I needed. >> Okay. >> Um, finding a job wasn't the easiest. I didn't have any connections there. And it was an absolute miracle that I met someone in the airport and I spoke Spanish to them and they eventually connected me with a job. So, it was it was a miracle by by all sense of the word. >> Oh. So, were you on the working holiday visa? What were we on? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, I went up there and I just started talking Spanish to him and he said, "Are you a tour guide?" And I basically said, "I can be." [laughter] And >> so, we I started working in in Wahiki. Uh, and I did wine tours there. >> Okay. >> Which was a phenomenal experience. And then we moved on to full country >> tours. >> So, why the speaking Spanish? I'm not understanding that connection. >> Oh, that's just cuz I when I lived in in Chile, I learned >> I know why you spoke. I spoke to this guy. >> Yeah. >> I thought he kind of looked uh I he was Chilean and I could tell. >> You could tell. Got it. >> And so I started talking to him just as >> So that's how you connected. I see. >> And he was there to pick up a group. >> I was like, "What do you do for work?" And he's like, "Oh, well, I'm a Spanish guy at this new company >> and so that's how we see. I see." Talking. Yeah. >> Yeah. Because they don't speak a lot of Spanish in New Zealand if you're >> No. No. No. No. I don't want to mislead everyone. Don't Don't go there [laughter] and say hola to anyone. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> True. Okay, cool. >> But um yeah, through my experience, uh finding an apartment was brutal. Um uh finding the community took a little bit, but once I did, I realized they were not where I was living. >> Mhm. >> Um and honestly, there's some cities that I that I visited afterwards, which I would have loved to live in for part of my time there. >> Oh, that's interesting. >> Not Auckland. And >> I think >> I don't know if a lot of people would agree with this. Have Have you ever been to Funganui? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> That is one of my favorite towns of all time. It's like gorgeous, friendly, intimate, and just the vibe there was immaculate. It was amazing. And I would have spent some time there had I known about it. >> God, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. I mean, >> and sorry, keep going. >> No, no, no. That's fine. No, no, that's fine. I I was just gonna say that uh so I always get that question from clients, right? They're just like, "Well, I don't know where to, you know, where should like what's your advice?" Like, that's probably one of the number one questions. >> And so, it's kind of a two-part answer that I give them. Like, number one, you have to go where you can find a job, period. [laughter] >> Sure. >> You know, like you have to find the job. But we can try, you know, we could depending on your industry, you know, whatever region. But like it's good to know the whole country. It's good to know where you want to go because you get the job and then, you know, a lot of times you can transfer to a different location or do you know what I mean? But like you got to start with that. Yes. But you have to know and and have exposure to >> to everything. But I also tell them, you know, >> there's not really terrible places in New Zealand. They're all pretty great. That's true. I mean comparison like you're not like you know and like you can get to the mountains in 20 minutes this way or the you know the ocean 20 minutes that way even if it's not great if you're just like dead center in the middle of the country like Hamilton but you know like there's ways to get around it but yeah I think you know like how it's not just for even living it's like if you go and you visit and you see these places it's it's it's where you're going to travel it's where you're going to spend time it's where you may you know spend your Christmas holidays. It's it's it's understanding what you're buying into as a whole because it's shocking to me how many people like have I just talked to somebody who spent two months in New Zealand, young person, and never went to the South Island. >> I was just talking to my friend last night who lived there for his entire life. He moved there from Brazilian when he was a baby and he had never visited the South Island. And I'm like, you're there? It's a It's a $75 flight. >> Like I don't understand it, but like you know, but you're right. Like people just don't know what they're missing because they don't know what they don't know. >> You don't know what you don't know. That's exactly. And so when when I came I I found all these these obstacles that that made my time not it it was still an incredible amazing experience in New Zealand but there were definitely some growing pains >> that if they could have been avoided I would have loved. And then I imagine, well, what if I had a family? >> Because I went there as a single guy. >> Um, >> and and what if I had four kids that are all teenagers and they're all relying on me to make sure I make this move, but I want to make this move because I think growing up in New Zealand would be really good for them. >> Mhm. >> So, some of those growing pains would not be just growing pains. They would be humongous obstacles for somebody going there with a family. >> Yeah. >> And and so my little problems would turn into very big problems and it could be the reason that somebody doesn't end up making that leap to New Zealand, right? >> They want to go, but it it just seems too much. And so >> that's what led to to this >> um amazing itinerary that we've built. So we we we we answer and solve those problems. We we by a community. So we are introducing them and it's fully customized too. So you take a an American couple who works in education with two children. We are going to find an American couple working in education with a couple children and we're going we're going to match them up at our networking events. So when you go there, you really have somebody that's in your same position that can answer those questions for you because we can't answer all the questions that we have. >> We have amazing commentary that's really informative. Each day we're going to learn about something new like the cost of living and housing and taxes and financial planning and the health care and New Zealand quirks. Like we'll learn about all that. But when you're connected with somebody that's in your same situation, that makes loads of difference. >> Yeah. >> So, when you go and you connect with those people, you find out where they live, and then we'll also do neighborhood tours. So, >> we'll take a we'll take a a family and we'll we'll learn their their income range and what kind of uh housing they're looking for from the investor Visa Plus that are looking to buy a home over 5 million New Zealand dollars to the the working family that uh just needs a place to rent but needs a threebedroom, two bath, whatever it is. We're going to take that and we're going to customize that so they're visiting the right neighborhoods in the right towns and meeting the right people. >> So if they decide to come back to New Zealand and make that make that leap, they have an amazing uh roots already down in the place that they want to go. >> Oh my gosh. Okay, so this is what I was talking about, guys. This is the difference between going and visiting on your own. So going and visiting on your own, great. I mean, and and you should see the country, but what would be better? There's always, you know, good, better, best, right? >> Yeah. >> There's no wrong way to do something. It's just there's just better ways sometimes. And so, and the reason why this is critical is because one, this is the this is this is the way that I would this is a process that I would, if you're seriously considering a move to New Zealand, um, get in touch with us and we will like I'll get you connected with my visa partner. We're going to find out number one if you can get a visa. Number one, if you even qualify for because there's no point in thinking about moving. >> That's the first step. >> Yeah. >> And then we're going to do this relocation tour. And the reason why you're doing the relocation tour is for exactly what he said. You are going to meet people in your industry, meet people in areas, you're going to do networking events. And let me tell you, this is an insider tip. When you're trying to find a job in New Zealand, it's all about who you know. And it may not be those people might not be hiring, but they know people that they'll say something to somebody. I I could go and do an entire 30 minute episode about how this person got a job because they knew this person and knew this person, this person. That's how it works in New Zealand. And that even if there isn't even a job posting, most jobs aren't even posted, okay? It's about who you know. And so going to these networking things are critical for you to get a job because guess what? You are not moving to New Zealand unless you get a job. Unless you're doing the investor visa, that's a different process. But everybody else, which is most people >> um are get have to get a job. So, so this is what I'm feeling is like way better than like you just going on your own, right? Because they'll be able to meet people and see things and start making connections and not only to build community, but to actually land the job that enables you to actually make the move. >> Yeah. And New Zealand won't be right for everyone. >> No. And and so if someone's unsure, >> well, let me check if I have a pathway to visa anyways. >> Yeah. >> Um it's always been in the back of their mind. I'd love to go to New Zealand. And then they find out, yeah, I could go potentially. Well, let me take this tour by myself or with my husband. Yeah, >> let's go on a tour. And then they find out, you know what? Honestly, it's it's too far >> or we we don't like the vibe here. Whatever. I can't imagine that would be a reason, but if that is a reason, they know and they'll never look back and say, "What if I had done this?" >> Oh my gosh. >> And and that's the that's the biggest thing. We're not trying we're not selling New Zealand. Like we we don't care if you end up moving there or not, >> right? >> For your own happiness, I would say move there. >> But it it's all about the certainty. It's it's 100% clarity on the decision you're making. You know what's cheaper than moving your whole family to New Zealand, going and doing a tour like this to figure out if that makes sense for your family and realizing no, it's not. >> Yeah. >> That's like the, you know, because like at the end of the day when you're 90, you're like you you don't want regrets. You don't wonder what if. This will give you the answer if you want to go. Now, if you decide yes, I want to go and then you can't get there, like you can't get a job, well then that's different. At least you knew that you did everything that you can to get to where you wanted to go and you can feel good about that. Okay? And because that's also what I think it is because when my clients, this is why it's like it's hard for me to communicate how important my community is for them to understand that you need to get your questions answered the whole time that you're going through the process of possibly moving there. Because that all determines whether you're going to actually make the move. Can I actually move my pets? What if you can't move your pets? and maybe that's a game changer or you know you mention it to your family and they like freak out and you're like okay maybe this is you know the whole time there's a lot to it and so like this is a big piece a big piece is like is this really right for us like let's maybe like let's get and it also can help you solidify that yes it is and these are the reasons why and I saw it for myself and it isn't just like I'm reading blogs on the internet you know or chat rooms like I saw it for myself I felt it it it felt I felt more like me there. I felt like it represented my values. I felt like it represented everything that I want my kids to to value. Like there's so many things that you can get out of something like that. I love that. Okay. So, let's talk about the tour. So, you're going um and you're doing these networking events and you're seeing neighborhoods. I love that. Like you're actually like seeing houses. Can I even afford it? That's a big question. I That's a huge question. Let's go and see. I literally like I was in New Zealand and like I was taking videos of everything and like this is how much it is. Like people just need to know see with their own eyes. >> They need to go into a supermarket >> how much it is pictures of things. >> Don't trust me. You can trust me because I am literally just telling you what it is. >> I there's no reason for me to hide it and you need to decide if that makes sense for you. And like yeah I mean you could go on and see how much houses are but like you need to go in and see when I tell you it's cold in the summer it's cold. like they just live cold. Like you feel that, you know? >> It's like I don't I don't know. I try to tell you because I'm here to help you with that to try to figure out if New Zealand's right for you. And Colton's here to help you to try to feel feel if New Zealand's right for you. Right. But it's a stage. It's a process. >> Yeah. Like we're going to go into pack and safe. >> Yes. and we're we're going to get to know the the I mean, when I first went into uh my first New Zealand ger, I just bagged up the fruit and produce and went straight up to the cashier and she looked at me like I was an idiot because I had to scale it and put the tag on. And >> there's a lot of cultural >> that's not a huge deal, right? But for somebody who's already got a lot on their plate with getting the kids into school and moving all their stuff from America and those those little things add up. And so >> we we no other tour are we going to say, "Okay, >> go shopping, guys. No other tour." and and and that those are the little aspects that we're really excited about is making those moments where if they're dead set on New Zealand, they say, "I can do this. >> This I'm here. I love it." And there's little itty bitty things, but I I'm empowered and and I know that I can do this. >> Oh, I like that. That's so good. >> Yeah. >> So, tell me about So, tell me about the tour. You doing North Island, South Island? Let's talk about that. >> Yeah. So, North Island and South Island. Okay. >> Uh we're visiting seven maybe eight cities um if you count like the little stop in in Rooua for example. So, we'll fly into Auckland. >> Okay. >> Three days in Auckland. We'll also visit Wiki while we're there. >> Yes. >> Um which is the per capita most amount of Americans that are are the highest concentration of Americans in New Zealand is on >> Wiki. Um, so we're definitely going to go there and do a little island tour, come back to Auckland, uh, networking events and presentations. Uh, because a lot of that that'll be the most important and informative because if somebody wants to move to the South Island, like you said, it'll probably be get a job in Auckland, live there until they can uh, transfer down to the South Island and and that's a big stopping point for a lot of people. So, Auckland, three days. Then we'll go down to Taranga, which is one of the fastest growing uh communities in New Zealand. >> And and I actually know people in Taranga who work in Auckland on a part-time basis. So, >> Oh, yeah. >> It's like a hybrid work. >> Yeah. >> So, they'll do three days out in uh Auckland. Uh but they live in Taranga and they love that that system. >> So, Taranga is a huge poll for a lot of Americans. Um, and then Roarua, where in Rooua we're going to do an amazing cultural experience, >> uh, where we're going to be able to interact with with the Mauy and see and learn about their culture because that is an integral part of New Zealand. Live living in New Zealand as an American, you will be a a pakea, which is a European or or a white man, >> right? And and I actually learned while I was there, there are certain places in New Zealand that pa cannot go that it is it is Mauy reserved land unless you're accompanied by Mauy of a certain rank. [clears throat] >> So and and I and I thought that was super cool. I I loved learning about that part of of the country's history. So we're so because that's going to be a part of your everyday life in New Zealand, we're going to explore it. And then Talpo, we're gonna do some adventures there. And also, um, there's some great real estate and and it's a little bit smaller town vibe, which the small towns in New Zealand are just >> amazing. I I love them. And and if you if you're not like, I'm not going to move to Tapo, why would I go there? Well, I'll tell you this. We do a couple days there. Wherever you are living, you're going to want to go back and visit, >> right? You're going to want to visit. Yeah. >> Exactly. Then we'll uh we'll fly down to Wellington. And Wellington, of course, the capital of New Zealand. Uh so, lots of jobs, lots of beautiful suburbs that we're going to explore there. And I mean, you you know more more about Wellington than than anyone, I'm sure. And it's an amazing place to live, although windy. >> Although windy. Yes. >> Although windy. And then uh we'll we'll head on down to Christ Church. >> Okay. And um Christ Church is of course the biggest city down on the South Island and it's kind of the amenities of Auckland, but you're on the back door of all the adventure of the South Island. So >> yes, >> that's that's a great mix uh there. >> And from from there we we are going to head out in Queenstown. Yes. >> Which is >> so expensive. So, I mean, for those that want to live there and have the means to and and love that adventure mountain feel, that that'll be the spot for them. >> And and we'll also do some amazing We're we've partnered with Air Milford. >> Okay. >> And and we'll do a scenic fly out to Milford Sound. >> Oh my gosh. >> Which I I cannot describe how much someone that has been in New Zealand needs to have gotten to Milford Sound. It's >> Oh, 100%. It's the number one. >> However breathtaking you think it is, >> it's more breathtaking. It >> It's untouched. You can't imagine. >> Yeah. It's It's phenomenal. >> So, there are moments like that that we have within the tour. >> Mhm. >> Where it it's it's a touristy aspect. That's not the main purpose of the tour. >> Yeah. >> But if you decide not to move to New Zealand, it's still going to be an unforgettable experience. >> Right. And that's what I'm just hearing you saying like you're you're going to get the whole like moving aspect and kind of the more the more boring like daily life understanding that which wouldn't be boring if you're moving there but also if you end up not moving there you're still getting a phenomenal trip to New Zealand like you absolutely have to go to Milford Sound you absolutely have to go to Queenstown hitting all the major spots that's great. >> Yep. >> And all taken care of for you like all like organized because it's not easy. [laughter] >> No it's it's not. And when we travel as a group, >> yeah, >> it unlocks group discounts and savings. So, it'll be cheaper than you do it on your own. It'll be less of a hassle because of course we're planning and booking everything. Um, and then you're also traveling with Americans that are in the exact same decision stage as you are. >> Yeah, that's true. >> So, you're connecting with other Americans that are like, "Yeah, we are in this position. we want to move here for these reasons and you can you can connect with them and jive with them and then >> what if you both end up moving there in the next year >> you you have that >> you have friends that community you got friends >> you have friends and like that's what I do in my online community but that's even better like spending like traveling with somebody is like even more in more depth right that you can get in the relationship and let me tell you guys if you are thinking about moving to New Zealand you are going to feel very alone in that idea everybody Everybody around you is going to be giving you like what >> why I got that as well. Yeah. >> Yeah. Why would you do that? And then to go on a tour where you're meeting people that are feeling and thinking the same way as you and like I'm telling you that's that's a big one. I would really like that. [laughter] That I'm not crazy. >> That you know like all the all the worries that you have they're having too. And like you know and we talk about that in the community too. But like to like go through and and then to experience New Zealand for the first time for a lot of for a lot of people together. I think that's that's very cool. That's not something you can just copy make up. >> And and a little side note uh which is important if if somebody is dead set on going to Deneden. >> Yeah. >> Or they're dead set on going to Funanui, >> we we can organize little side excursions. >> Okay, that's a good point. you you know you're going to Deneden. Well, let let's make sure you get a stop in Deneden. So So you'll separate from the group for a little bit, have your one-on-one time, meet some people in Deneden, and then fly back and rejoin the group. >> Oh, that's really great. >> That's also an option to Deneden. It's surprising. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So, so we we are it's it's a customizable tour uh according to your needs. While we've got the base itinerary, which we think will will answer all the questions and provide the certainty that you need, if there's if there's something extra that you absolutely need, uh we're we're we're organizing it. We're flexible. or because everyone's needs are going to be a little bit different, but the main core of the relocation scouting trip is community information and experiencing New Zealand. >> So, okay. Um h how many people are on the tours at a time? Like I'm just trying to think of questions that people would have. >> Oh, yeah. Good question. So, uh we're we're doing a maximum of 14 right now. Maximum of 14. Okay. So, it stays it stays intimate. >> Are kids allowed? >> Kids are allowed. >> Kids are allowed. Okay. Um Okay, cool. Because I'm I'm actually thinking that I think this is great if you're just not sure about New Zealand, but I also it could be great >> if you've landed a job and you are moving there. [laughter] Like scout out like your housing and your areas and your you know what I mean? I mean, at that point, you're probably just going to move, but like I don't know. Well, and you're also going to do the the musts tourist musts while you're in New Zealand at a group rate. >> At a group rate. That's true. >> So, yeah, we're going to do Hobbiton, which >> even if you don't like Lord of the Rings, people who go to Hobbiton, >> it's amazing. >> Blows your mind. >> It blows your mind because they have to keep it exactly like how it was on the movie. It's so beautiful. They do work very hard to make that happen. >> We'll do Hobbiton. We'll do excursions. We'll do Milford Sound. We're actually gonna sail to Wiki on a chartered sailboat. >> Oh, you are? >> Yeah, that. >> So, it's and explore the Haki Gulf and >> seeing Rangitoto on the in the Hierarchy Golf is just amazing. So, there'll be those experiences that that'll help uh connect the person with the land if they're already decided on moving there, but they want to have that experience first. >> H Okay. So, I'm just trying to think of like what are some thoughts people like why wouldn't I just plan a trip for myself is for my family. I want to kind of do what I want. Why would they do this instead? >> Yeah. So, um you totally can. Um I've connected with people that have done that. >> They end up texting people the entire time. Um hey, I'm in this city. What should I do now? Um, and for those that don't plan as well, for those that are planners, um, you you can get a fantastic itinerary, uh, but like I said, you're not going to get the community and that's why we built this is New Zealand is so far away. >> Yeah. >> And so that community is integral for the success of the move. >> So we doing it yourself is possive. it won't be as streamlined and you you won't get the community, but it's possible. And if somebody wants to do it on their own, >> I I love New Zealand so much and I love planning these >> still hop on a call with me and and just for free. I we can jive about where you'd want to go and what you'd want to see because >> I like that >> it's it's a value. We like to provide value to the market. We're not here to just make tons of money. We want to help people. That's the whole reason we started this. Right. So, >> right. Same with me. Same with me helping people. Like, I'm not making a ton of money here, people. But [laughter] I love it. >> I love it. And you're And you're impacting people's lives. There's just so many things that are more important than money, right? >> And that's a lesson you'll learn living in New Zealand is all about the money. >> Yes. Maybe that's why. Yeah. It's just they're not they're just like I just need to make this amount of money to have the lifestyle that I want to have and everything above that is unnecessary. >> Yep. >> That's how they live. It's true. So, is there anybody that this tour is not for? >> Um I would say if you are if you have a job and you've connected with the real estate agent and you have a community and you're just like you're figing process Okay, >> this this isn't going to be for you. Um that if if you are really scrimping and saving to get to New Zealand >> and you can't afford any extra costs, you probably won't be touring New Zealand by yourself anyways. >> Nope. [laughter] >> Right. >> And and so that this then this tour wouldn't be for you, >> right? Right. >> Um because you're you're not going to be able to afford to do it on your own. Um, while we have it cheaper than what you do on your own, you're still going to uh you it would still be more beneficial to just go and you're okay with the adventure and the growing pains. Um, but if you're anywhere from the I'm curious to I think I'm going to move phase, uh, then this this tour is for them. And and if they're they want to make sure that they have the make the move right and they want to settle any doubts and uncertainty, then yeah, this this tour is for them. >> Nice. >> How did how did I explain that? Did that sound okay? >> Yeah, that was great. That was great. >> I I'm totally following everything. I think that that's really Yeah, I think that that's real. You know, not everything serves everybody. And um yeah, it's a really great opportunity. Like I said in the beginning, like I didn't I have never stepped foot in New Zealand before. I dragged my whole family there, you know, but also we weren't we were thinking it was going to be like a two-year thing and then we didn't expect to like it so much. So, you know, there's always things that you're thinking in your head, but most of my clients, people that I talk to are like, >> if I'm moving, I am moving, you know, and so this is like this is for you. So, um, so thanks so much for joining us today, Colton. has been really great to talk through this whole process with you. And guys, there's so many Americans moving. Like, this is the time now to check it out. Um, you know where to go. I'm your lady. If you want to move to New Zealand, I am going to put a link uh in the description if you want to reach out to Colton and have that free call. Just have that conversation. If you're curious about it, if you want to see more details, you want to talk about price, you want to talk about what this could look like, when the tours are available, just have a call with them, have a chat. like he said, even if you just want to talk about travel in general in New Zealand, he's happy to chat with you. So, thanks for joining us today. >> That's exactly right. Thanks, Tara. Okay.