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The video explores the profound feeling of being deeply in love and the specific dynamics that created an instant bond between the speakers. The host shares their personal experience of feeling joyfully accepted, appreciated, and respected in a way they have never known before, contrasting this with previous relationships where such depth was absent. They address public criticism regarding their past comments about initial attraction, clarifying that describing early interactions as "flat" referred to the absence of lust or dopamine rather than a lack of genuine connection. This misunderstanding highlights how external observers often miss the nuance of human emotions, while the couple emphasizes that their bond grew organically from a foundation of friendship and mutual curiosity rather than instant chemistry.
A central theme of the discussion is redefining courtship by moving away from traditional gender norms where men perform grand gestures to win over women. Instead, the speakers argue for a relationship built on mutual intentionality and the act of choosing each other freely. They describe their unique connection as evolving through deep, honest conversations where both parties felt safe to be vulnerable without fear of judgment. This approach allowed them to bypass superficial distractions and focus entirely on getting to know one another's minds and hearts, creating a sense of safety and significance that is essential for lasting love.
The core mechanism behind their instant bonding is identified as genuine inquiry and the desire to truly see the other person. Both individuals possess a sales background which taught them the value of drilling down into questions to understand deeper meanings, a skill they applied to their relationship to avoid manipulation and instead foster connection. They explain that every human being has an innate need for significance, and when partners actively demonstrate curiosity about each other's thoughts, feelings, and past experiences, it validates that importance. This process transforms a simple conversation into a powerful bonding experience where both people feel witnessed and valued for who they are.
Ultimately, the video concludes with a recommendation for everyone to approach dating with a mindset of curiosity rather than performance or expectation. By stripping away societal pressures and traditional moors, individuals can create a space where two people simply meet as friends to see if there is a natural connection. The speakers assert that this authentic exploration leads to a stronger bond because it prioritizes the human need to be known and understood over the pursuit of physical intimacy or social status. They encourage viewers to start their next date by asking meaningful questions and treating their partner as someone significant, which will naturally foster the kind of deep, joyful love they have experienced together.
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So today we're going to talk about what
it feels like to be in love and what it
takes to bond with a person and all that
good stuff. Are you excited about this
conversation?
>> I am.
>> So I want to start by sharing something
and this is for everybody, but I'm also
saying it to you, but you already know
this folks. I am ridiculously in love.
[laughter]
Now I say ridiculously, I just simply
mean it. Joyfully in love, excited to be
in love. I and and when I say in love, I
mean I'm all in this experience. But
more importantly, what I'm feeling in
our relationship is something I've never
felt before.
>> Yeah.
>> And and I feel accepted. I feel
appreciated. I feel acknowledged. I feel
respected. I mean, I could go on. I I
feel joy. And And I'm sharing this with
you because honestly, I haven't felt
this. I really haven't. And I think
you've said the same thing. I know
you've said the same thing.
>> Yeah, I have. And and we just celebrated
our oney year anniversary, by the way,
guys.
>> Um and I absolutely feel the same way.
And I think it's interesting. We're
getting a lot of comments and whatnot in
the threads. Um that have been
complimentary.
>> Oh, we've had so many great compliment.
>> Much of it. Most of it complimentary.
And then some people sort of assume that
they know us.
>> Yeah. Yeah. you know, and it's and it's
really interesting to see the take um of
how it's presented basically, you know,
as if like they're behind our closed
wall.
>> Yeah.
>> And I think what's important, I mean,
and I'm going to share with the audience
that I absolutely feel the same way.
>> Yeah. Um, and I h the [gasps] I I equate
this to I didn't know what I what I
would feel until I felt it.
>> Yes.
>> And it doesn't
uh it doesn't take away from my previous
relationships or certain love or care
I've had for those other people,
>> but it feels very different inside.
>> Yeah. And um and and for that I want I
just I want your audience to know what I
feel you are at you know as a person
>> um and what you mean in my heart you
know so it's I mean I you talk a lot
about it and you're online and you're
posting about but nobody really hears a
lot for me per se and that's you know
partly by design
>> and um you know I I I just want to say
that you are the sweetest and most
kindest heart I've ever had
be part of mine.
>> A well, I appreciate that.
>> Yeah. So, um, so
>> I just wanted to kind of give a little
dig into the into the members of the
audience there [laughter] that were kind
of
>> well, a few people have said some things
that have hurt my feelings as a
reflection of, you know, sometimes I
miscommunicate something and I might
mean something like what what I'm
thinking and what I'm meaning isn't
necessarily what comes out of my mouth,
you know, and a couple times, you know,
I've referred to our initial meeting as
being maybe flat or neutral and I said
that there wasn't attraction. It was
really a characterization that it wasn't
there yet. I wasn't experiencing lust or
lirance or dopamine or insecure
attachment. And because I didn't
experience that, I said it was kind of
flat between us. But that didn't take
away to the fact that attraction has
kept growing. And I'm still like
literally right before we started this
video, I'm like, "Oh my god, you're so
damn cute. You're so damn beautiful.
Yeah. And so some people have taken some
people have taken that out of context
and criticize me and and I see the look
in your face when I share that.
>> Yeah. Well, it hurts me because it hurts
you.
>> Yeah.
>> And um and and I think that, you know,
some people get behind a keyboard and
they don't realize that there's human
beings on the other side, you know, just
living their lives and saying things
and, you know,
>> Oh, I think they're doing it to
intentionally hurt you. I mean they I
think they know exactly what they're
doing. And look at I could listen I I
mean look at my attitude is when someone
does that I'm always saying to myself
who hurt you kind of thing [laughter]
like what what you know what did your
parents do to you know who hurt you? Um
because I know it's a projection but my
point is and we're bringing this up and
when I'm talking about love folks I I
really don't know how to describe
what this feels like. And you said this
a moment ago. I I had this idea of what
I thought love would be like before I
met you. Yes. And it was really kind of
a fantasy. You know, I was in love with
the show Heartto-Heart. You know, people
have heard me talk about that. And I
thought what I saw on screen,
>> but but to actually experience it, it's
so different. And so in our conversation
today, I want to talk about how we
bonded with each other
>> and what was maybe a little bit
different or what was unique or what
happened to get us to where we're
feeling this. And folks, and I mean this
with all sincerity, I wish everyone
could feel the high, you know, the
serotonin high of of what it feels like
to be with someone who accepts you for
who you are, who appreciates for who you
are, who admires who you are, who did I
say accepts?
>> Yes.
>> Oh, I did say accept. who is
affectionate, you know, with you and
respects you and cherishes you and and
actually is genuinely interested in what
you have to say. And by the way, I I
think I'm saying everything you'd say
the same. Absolutely. Right. I'm not
trying to put words in your mouth.
>> Don't put words in my mouth.
>> Okay. Well, it's absolutely
>> That's the other thing is Yeah. People
say I'm putting words in your mouth. I'm
like, no, I'm just reciting what we
share. So what I think bonds um you know
this conversation is about what bonds
you think what women experience might be
a little different than men.
>> Yes.
>> And so let's start from the woman. Wait
where you
>> Well, I was going to say because we
started this conversation earlier and we
were talking about what is courtship?
>> Yeah. What is courtship and where like
you know where we were in the very
beginning and how we experienced love
>> you know through friendship but how we
experienced love over a fairly short
period of time.
>> Yes.
>> Where the chemistry
>> didn't come instantaneously but it grew
into like a volcanic eruption.
[laughter]
>> And
>> I think we have tons of chemistry with
each other.
>> We do. So, so, but we were talking about
earlier and and you took a little
offense to this, you know. I said,
"Well, did we actually have a a
courtship?"
And I said, "Well, I'm not sure we had a
courtship because you expressed your
intention."
>> Yeah.
>> Pretty early on. And we were having this
conversation about what instantly bonded
us.
>> Yeah. And you, you know, you we talked a
little bit bit about the dating vows and
that type of stuff,
>> but you said to me, I would like to um I
would like to explore
>> Yeah.
>> a relationship with you or or at least
see where this goes over the next three
to six months. And I said, "Yes, I'd be
open to that exploration." And I think
>> Can I clarify something? I didn't say 3
to six months. I said, "I want to
explore a relationship with I want us to
explore a relationship together."
>> Yeah.
>> Um and then within 3 to 6 months, make
this even more serious kind of thing. I
just
>> And and and we've we've bounced on these
words a little bit too because because
my take on this is
>> I think that it's equally important in
the courtship piece that uh you know, we
all want to be chosen.
>> Yeah.
And particularly women, you know, have
wait. No, the traditional the
traditional Moore, the traditional Moore
is,
>> you know, going back to Victorian times
and whatnot
>> says that the woman should be courted.
The woman gets, you know, taken out.
They they get they they get romanced.
They have dinners out. They go to
events.
>> The man has to climb to the highest room
of the tallest tower. There we go with
that saying and and that's what we've
been accustomed to knowing as courtship.
>> Yeah.
>> I think one of the things that happened
between you and us was that I said to
you
>> Yeah.
>> I choose you back.
>> Yes.
>> That I'm open to the exploration to see
where this goes. I didn't really put a
time on it. I still said I'm open to an
exploration to seeing if this is
something I would commit to yes over
time.
>> And it wasn't a uh I want to be
committed to a relationship with you
[clears throat]
per se. It was I'm open to exploring
what will happen in this.
>> Yeah. But part of that in that
exploration is also kind of an I mean in
our case it wasn't implied. It go look
I'm not really interested in being in
the dating apps anymore. I don't want
the distraction of talking to other
people. I'm not interested in meeting
other people. While I'm not saying that
was exclusivity, but in a sense when I
said let's explore the relationship um
particularly when we
>> the committed relationship
>> the committed relationship is that there
was this intent to not be seeking to
meet others and also since we began
being physically intimate I'm like look
I'm also going to be monogamous in this
experience. What what's interesting
about courtship is there's this grand
expectations that Paula talked about,
but I think what really solid courtship
from a man's from a woman's point of
view is a man who is intentional. Yes.
>> He's like, I'm being intentional and not
by taking you out to dinners and
performing and that sort of thing.
That's that's a lot of smoke and mirrors
because a lot of really
>> That's the house.
>> No. Yeah, that's the how. But
>> but not necessarily or and the whats,
but it's not necessarily the wise.
>> Yes. Because their motivation could be
to be physically intimate with you, use
you, and then move on, you know, and I
don't mean that in a totally crass way,
use you. Yeah. Um, you know, coming back
to the chosen piece, you know, I've
observed so many men in midlife that
also want to be chosen. They want to
hear, you know, the words, you like, I
like you. Yeah. You know, I I think what
bonded me to you is when you said early
on you said, "I like like you."
>> I like like you.
>> I like like you. By the way, can you
share with everyone a little bit more
about what I like like you is?
>> Oh, so I think we were maybe five days
into conversations mostly on the phone
and we had already had a coffee date.
>> Yeah. Um, and that was several hours.
And, uh, you know, in our first few days
of conversational, you know, phone
talking, we we had a lot in common, but
we all we were very curious about where
each other were and what stage and past
relationships and, you know, people we
knew sort of on the sidelines and
whatnot. And you know, at one point I
had written a journal entry that, you
know, I said, "Man, this like I'm
feeling probably the most seen and
witnessed by anybody I ever have in in
my life." And I and I just I really like
like this person. [laughter]
So So, you know, and and I and I say I
like like you, you know, in the way that
it's like, "God, I really freaking like
you." Like, you know, I'd hang out with
you. Well, and for the record, folks,
when we were talking to each other, and
we spent something like 50 hours of
talking between the first meeting and
the second time we met each other,
what's interesting is when we
communicate with one another, and we did
a video about discourse uh a couple
weeks ago.
Um, but what happens is when when Paul
and I talk with each other, I want
someone put that in air I'm going to put
that in air quotes with each other
instead of at each other. We're always
curious to drill down
>> like yeah what's the what okay what did
that like not so much what did that mean
>> past experience we thought that was
important
>> important to you drilling down and we're
both we both have a sales background so
we learn this is effective sales tools
is what's known as drilling down but not
from some manipulative way it's it's
because we're both curious okay what did
you mean by that how did that relate to
you. What did that feel like for you? We
would do this with each other and
through that inquiry,
>> man, we were bonding with each other.
>> We were,
>> you know, and
>> and at one point it went from I like
like you to I really freaking love you.
>> Yeah. So,
>> in a way that you say to like a really
good friend, you know,
>> and so whether you're a man or woman,
you know, we can talk I talked about
intention, we've talked about
appreciation and feeling like, but I
think what bonds humans together is the
genuine inquiry of each other. Yeah.
>> Like when you can actually be curious
about the other person. Now, some
people, listen, I know some of you might
be watching this. Mostly women might be
going, "God, I know men who don't like
it when I drill down and ask questions."
But I'm gonna tell you something. They
might resist it, but deep down, every
human wants to be seen. They want to be
acknowledged. They want to have
significance. In fact, even Tony Robbins
talks about one of the most, you know,
top six human needs is the need for
significance.
>> Yeah. And so that inquiry when you when
you can show that that person is
significant to you. I don't think I
don't think this happens enough in
dating. Oh, before you say, oh god, I
don't want to interrupt where you're
going, [laughter] but I got to bring up
the fact we talked about um Oh, shoot.
Now I lost it. Okay, go ahead and say
what you're going to say. Um, where I
was just going to go is I think that we
ha,
you know, particularly in the early days
of dating that we ha that we have to
learn how to straddle
the I don't really know this person. I
want to get to know them. And the, you
know, and not being attached to an
outcome.
>> Oh, you took it exactly where I was
going to go. [laughter]
>> No. so elaborate because we were talking
about this on the patio this morning
>> to not to to you have to straddle
between you know it's it's a
you know it's it's a tight rope right
like you're having this conversation
with this kind of stranger.
>> Yeah.
>> But you like them you know there sort
and and you're curious about them but
you know the question becomes how how
at what point do you say I want to
explore? Yeah.
>> More with you. I want to exp
>> and without it being about lust and
lirance and being physically intimate
like I want to actually get to know you
as a person instead of chasing you know
your body part type of thing.
>> And I think it really is simply that I
think it is in the exploration of
another human being that that human
being is going that it's either going to
work out or it's not. So, can we
[clears throat] talk about the debate we
had earlier this morning centered around
I tend to be more intentional by even
creating an agreement before a meeting
>> to view this as a from a serious intent.
In other words, I'm not just looking to
have fun.
>> Yes.
>> And um how did you frame it this
morning?
>> That it felt like a contract.
>> Yes. And and the line was between
>> and that's what [clears throat] I mean
about straddling.
>> Okay. I Okay, but let me finish this
thought real quick. We were debating
whether or not like my I'm intentional,
which you think is a little bristly. And
you're like, "Oh, I'm just cavalier and
let's just see where it goes."
>> No. And that was not it.
>> Well, that's the way I interpreted it.
>> Okay, folks. Here we go. [laughter]
>> Okay.
>> All right. No, I I I agree with you to a
certain extent. I think intention
um
of the of the notion that I would like
to explore something further with you is
important. It's basically saying I
choose you. Even if it's for a minute, I
choose you. Where I had an a issue was
in the verbiage of how it can be said
>> which I said was hey can we just be two
people meeting as friends without any
expectations which I also said gender
expectations because there are
traditional gender expectations. We just
did a video about paying for dates and
look at how the expectations are. But
simply to say, hey, can we just be two
people seeing if we actually like each
other? Okay.
>> Can that be the reason why we're
meeting?
>> Stop. Okay.
>> For just a second. Okay.
>> Okay. So, [laughter]
>> it the can we anything is
>> um uh it is insinuating it's insinuating
a contract. It's insinuating an
agreement. Can we agree? You actually
said those words. Can we agree that when
we meet we do this? And I would venture
to say that that
would make some people bristle because
it's almost it's a you know
>> it's a bit of a directive but more than
anything it's it's saying can we just do
this and you basically you know should
agree to that and what I'm saying is
that is okay now I'm sorry I got to get
this out. What I'm saying is I think
that what's important is that we both
can say and this is where the instant
bonding piece, you know, can come from
is that our our traditional moors say
that courtship is that the man chooses
the woman and the and and that's where
the exploration, you know, falls flat.
He pays for dinners, he romances the
stone, etc., etc. But but
what we're really saying is by dropping
the traditional moors, by dropping the
gender norms, etc., etc., that what
we're really saying [clears throat] is
that we both want to choose each other.
>> Yeah.
>> Now, we don't know whether that other
person is the right person for us, but
we can say in the moment, I'm open to
the expiration
>> of this. So,
>> whatever this is, maybe a couple more
dates. I'm open to the expiration. I get
that and and I'm not I just want to
simply say this. You say traditional
moors. You know, at one time everybody
thought the earth was flat. Okay. Yeah.
And I'm suggesting something that goes
against their traditional norms or moors
as you put it. And my point is is I'm
simply wanting to
maybe recommend a a bit more
intentionality.
>> Absolutely. and particularly by taking
the expectations off the table and
simply say, "Hey, can we just be two
people meeting to see if we like each
other without the pressure of the
performative norms out there?" And are
you interested in just that no harm, no
foul, if there's no, you know, love
connection. We don't post it on social
media for some ragebait conversation.
And I know you would never do that,
>> but okay, I want to put a bow on this
conversation.
>> What I believe, what strongly, I'll use
the word strongly instead of instantly,
bonds us when you're with someone who is
in the inquiry of you. Because through
the inquiry, through the curiosity,
through those wanting to know more about
a person, the person feels significant.
As I said before, one of Tony Robbins
top six human needs is significance. And
when we operate by actually treating
that other person as being um
significant, you actually that person
feels closer to you. That doesn't it
isn't a guaranteed bond for life or
anything like that. But I want to set
that mindset. Just start being if you're
not doing it already, which many of you
are, start operating on those first date
from a place of curiosity. Yeah.
Collecting more data as you always say
and and from that you might find that
you might connect the way we connected
because we connected through absolute
curiosity with one another. We did.
>> And so that's my recommendation for
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