Disclosure Expert: “UFO Secrets Are Being Kept By The Government” | Dr. Steven Greer

When you let this Frankenstein get created in the 40s and 50s, it gets up off the table and is walking amongst us in the world and no one has put that Frankenstein back on the table. Since the earliest recorded days of human history, we have had interactions with extraterrestrial biological entities. A big part of the cover-up are sci-ops, which confuse rather than clarify what's going on. I'm not trying to frighten people here, but imagine what 80 years and trillions of dollars of studying, recovered extraterrestrial communication, conscious interface systems, propulsion systems, nanobiological systems would result in. This is a very serious problem. We're now very long down a dangerous road where this unchecked power is not just wedded to people wanting to have domination and totalitarian control over others, but they're backstopped now with some of the most advanced technologies that have ever been known on planet Earth. >> They've exponentialized both force and misinformation, and they're covertly operating, so they're in a really powerful and dangerous position. It's definitely the most intense and scariest time that I think the world has ever known. >> This is an existential threat to life on Earth and humanity. It's like Luke Skywalker hitting that Death Star just in the right place. There's a very narrow window for getting this right. >> I didn't want to release this podcast, so we sat on it for a little while. And now I'm of a different mind. And right now I believe that everybody needs access to as much information as possible so that we can assimilate and understand what are the possible vectors of what the hell is going on in the world? So, whether you believe what Steven Greer says about the capabilities of the infamous they, those dark forces that are pulling the strings behind the scenes, or you don't, it's good to have this information to understand that this is possible. And if it is, what do we do? How do we show up for ourselves, for our family, and for the world? So, I decided to release this podcast to give all of the information, everything that I know, you know, and we're in this together. So, enjoy this podcast with Steven Greer. What I was really curious to start with is to start with somewhat of like the beginning of the story, and I know things are going to be a little fuzzy here, but go all the way back to the ancient civilizations and some of these stories, and when we think this story of interfacing with extraterrestrial intelligence and beings or crafts, as well as innovations in our own technology, probably through the consciousness technology field, like where does this story begin for you as you're kind of musing on these subjects yourself? >> Well, for me personally, it of course began early in my life, but I think you're asking another question. >> Right. >> Um and as I understand it, now the first some definitions, because this is a real problem in this space. It's a problem when I brief members of Congress or CIA director, whoever it is. They conflate anything that goes bump in the night as an extraterrestrial alien, whatever. So, what we're really dealing with were or at least three different categories of phenomena, plural. So, one, the prime the one I'm dealing with directly, although I also interface with these others, is extraterrestrial biological entities, Evens, that's what they're called when they're recovered and autopsied and all that stuff, or dissected. Um then we have what are known as extra-dimensional entities. These are beings that are not from another star system and planet, but traverse from one dimension uh where they primarily exist in and sometimes push into this dimension. That's not an extraterrestrial, but 99.9% of everything dealing with the UFO subject mixes that in. And then the big one that nobody thinks about, which is right in front of everyone's faces, but they don't see it, um and there's a big problem with the White House and Congress, are the man-made craft and phenomenon that can simulate both of the above, both the extraterrestrial and the extra-dimensional. So you have a very complex um matrix, let's call it, that's all being conflated as one phenomenon uh singular instead of phenomena plural. So let's get that straight first. If we don't get that straight, we're hopelessly lost. Um the UAP term was was concocted through counterintelligence and psychological warfare operations uh after the documentary that we did Unacknowledged hit 800 million views globally, and they wanted to further obfuscate the subject with a new term, and they came up with this UAP term. Unexplained aerial phenomenon. So let me explain that. They are not unexplained. They are not aerial, strictly, and it is not a phenomenon. A phenomenon is a naturally occurring thing like ball lightning. So they went from one obfuscating term for psychological warfare and deflection purposes to another one. So let's get smart here. So, in reality, the UAT UAP term went further into obfuscation because what we have been putting out, the proof and the evidence, was piercing that uh deliberately obfuscating veil of disinformation and counterintelligence that had been uh foisted on the public since the '40s and '50s. It's very easy to confuse a member of Congress or a president or the general public by throwing into a blender all kinds of uh different phenomena and experiences and call it one thing. This is not helpful. This is actually part of the cover-up. A big part of the cover-up are SIOPs, psychological warfare operations, which confuse rather than clarify what's going on. So, I feel like I'm continually having to clarify that. So, now, having said that, to get back to your question, uh we have no in my no doubt in my mind, since the earliest recorded days of human history that we have a record for, had had interactions with extraterrestrial biological entities. Now, humans have also had contact with extra-dimensional entities, either lower or higher, angelic, this realm, deceased beings, what have you. Um and that is something that is just part of the human experience. If you look um uh in the uh evidence, if you There There are cave drawings from from France and India that are dated 5, 10,000 years old that are of what would look like a modern-day UFO with these creatures outside. And they're They're not hoaxes. Uh uh in Italy, there's a painting of the Mother Mary holding the baby Christ with a star on her shoulder and above her to the left is a classic circular UFO with a beam of blue light coming down with people in the background holding their arms up Uh towards this object. And that is from the 1400s. And so, there's no question that in my opinion, we've never been alone. The question is, how has it been understood by various societies given their level of knowledge of science or spirituality or the science of consciousness, all of which come into play into your paradigm and how you view these different experiences. So, I think that in even ancient times, you know, some people think the wheel of Ezekiel in the Bible might have been a UFO. >> Mhm. >> Perhaps it was. I don't know, I wasn't there. But it would be easy to understand that um civilizations that really didn't, you know, they thought the world was flat. By the way, it's not. And who thought that the the sun went around the Earth instead of the other way around. Remember Galileo was excommunicated from the church for daring to suggest that the Earth went around the sun, which of course is correct. And it wasn't until 30 years ago that he was de-excommunicated for that heresy. So, I think that when you go back in ancient times, what happens, the mythology gets even more confusing because ancient people had experiences where there were some shamans or priests or whatever with other dimensions and other beings. But at the same time, you have these extraterrestrial uh objects and beings whose technology crosses the full spectrum of various dimensions. So, here's a theorem that I developed. All extraterrestrial civilizations are a priori interdimensional or transdimensional. But not all interdimensional beings are extraterrestrial. So, should I say it again? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. All extraterrestrial beings and civilizations are interdimensional, but not all interdimensional or extradimensional beings are extraterrestrial. Now, what do I mean by that? In order for a spacecraft, let's say, to go from a a a star system a thousand light-years away, which is by the way only 1% of the distance through our own little Milky Way galaxy, of which there are billions, um that at the speed of light would take a thousand years each direction, the time since the birth of Christ. That's not a viable transportation system. Or communications, let's talk about that. You and I are speaking through an electromagnetic wave field uh that is moving at the speed of light. But if, let's say, you were a thousand light-years out in space, it would take a thousand years for you to say, "Hey, how are you doing, Dr. Greer?" And for me to say, "Fine, thank you." Another thousand years for you to receive that. So, when I first explained this to the director of the CIA and his wife, who was the uh head of the National Academy of Sciences, her chief operating officer, he didn't understand that, but she did, cuz she was a scientist. And I said, "In order to go through s- interstellar space, you have to be able to develop technologies that allow you to bend space-time and move through other dimensions to go from point A to B. Right? So, you're going from here to here, not in a line, but through dimensions. And so, all extraterrestrial civilizations that are here, now, if they're stuck on their planet like we are, it's different. But if they're here, by definition, they have to have mastered transdimensional or interdimensional technologies. And that's really a big specialty that I I focus on. Um and with that, you begin to cross into the science of consciousness, what some people consider metaphysical with the astral body or the body of light, you cross into all these areas. So, when these ET craft or beings appear, sometimes they can appear and be confused as an apparition or a ghost or a spirit or being from another dimension when they're not. And so, because of the interface of the technology with a fuller, more complete spectrum of reality, as I wrote in one of my books, the full spectrum of reality, you're going to get this confusion which is innate to how extraterrestrial civilizations would move and and communicate even. Because all their communication systems are interfacing with the consciousness field and directed thought. Just like you and I are connecting through this. So, it's a whole new paradigm and this is very difficult for scientists and most of the public and politicians to get their minds around and yet it's the only way to understand uh what people are seeing and experiencing. The problem with it, it has a huge overlap with purely extradimensional beings or beings that are purely from another dimension or spirit beings or other consciousness experiences. And so, you sort of need a sherpa. You need a a guide and which is what I try to be to guide you through that wilderness to get clarity of what's actually going on. So, that's one of what my my tasks is to try to explain this in a way that can be understood by, you know, the average person. Um even though it's rather abstract, but I think most people can get the sense of that. >> I think one of the things that's become clear as I've become more aware of your work is we think of ancient technology, right? Like we look at stones that were moved over, you know, hundreds of miles or a thousand miles that are so heavy to lift and then placed in these impossible situations that even puzzles our mind with our own hydraulics and our own and we think oh they must have had technology and we're wondering where the record are of like a Newtonian technology a way that we could actually but really and people saying oh it must have been alien technology well to me it it opens up the possibility that the alien or that technology that was brought to us or developed and developed innately by individuals was more of a consciousness technology where they were able through their mastery of consciousness and vibration and sound and however they were able to do it were able to adjust the density and and weight of the stones that they were actually moving and so that it became much easier like moving a kind of floating object like if you imagine you're in a zero gravity you can move something around. >> you can do it innately. So the Vedic masters would be able to move uh entire cities or what have you. Uh before I was a medical doctor I was a meditation teacher. I'm dating myself back uh sort of one of the early young guys when I was 19 20 uh for the Maharishi going all over the world teaching people meditation and the cities and levitation and things like that. Um luckily I did that before my medical training cuz the medical training would have rung that out of me. Uh but uh but you know what's fascinating to me about that is that there's literally nothing new under the sun. If you if you study the ancient Vedas and Sanskrit and what are known as cities s i d d h i s these various capabilities and powers that are rooted in mind and consciousness uh enlightened capabilities you begin to realize that every technology has a correlation in consciousness and vice versa. In other words what you can do innately with the consciousness like you were discussing you can also do reproducibly and scientifically once the science becomes refined enough. And so, what we're dealing with with extraterrestrial civilizations is that they operate a very high level of understanding of consciousness, but also a very high level of technology that interfaces with consciousness, which is what I call consciousness assisted technology where your mind is assisting it and vice versa where there are technological systems and frequencies and devices that assist your mind and consciousness at doing things or seeing remote places or communicating. So, it flows both ways. That's why I call it CAT and TAC, consciousness assisted technology and technology assisted consciousness. So, these are the basic concepts. Well, some people say these aren't so basic, but they really are because without that you can't really understand all the different experiences people have with ET beings and craft and discern that properly from the other experiences people have that have nothing to do with extraterrestrial biological entities from different planets, but are more related to the spirit world, other dimensions, etc. and so on. And it's not to say these are mutually exclusive, but they're all part of a conscious quantum hologram that the cosmos and creation. This is conscious being that is a quantum hologram where everything is interwoven and interconnected instantly through the consciousness field, the pure field of mind and consciousness. And so, but you know, you wouldn't pluck out your eyeball the same way you cut your fingernails. So, at a certain point, if we're going to live in the world here, we have to have discernment and the distinctions of this. Otherwise, I think it's very unhelpful to the public to throw everything into a a blender and turn on the blend button, which is what the CIA has done, quite frankly, very deliberately. >> Part of the obfuscation that you're talking about from the from >> And very cleverly done, very well done. And then they all they need is the echo chamber of the New Age and UFO and consciousness community to magnify that fault that incorrect information. And that's what's happened, by the way. So, I tend to be pretty hard-nosed about because I've been, frankly, on the inside of those kind of operations. And I have debriefed over 1,000 covert folks who work this subject in both corporate and government agencies. I'm I I might Let's just say it's childhood's end for me many, many decades ago in terms of just sort of like um taking everything that goes bump in the night as an alien phenomenon, right? >> Right. >> So, uh but I think the public who's just now hearing official statements from the Pentagon that these are real, but we don't know what they are, and let's make up a new term that's even more obfuscating, like UAP. I I think the people are actually more confused instead of less over the last couple years. And And so, this is of some concern to me, personally. >> We are in unprecedented times. And the first thing that arises is a need for safety. How do I ensure my own safety and sovereignty so I can protect myself and my family, and also contribute to a better world? And so, one of the things that I think is really important is to recognize where you are holding your value. And right now, a lot of us are holding our value in cash. What is cash? 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And I call the they empire with a capital E. I just call it an empire, right? Cuz the the goal is Yeah, the goal is a totali- you know, total- totalization of control and power. And that's what empire has always wanted and just it's usually been in local forms, but now there seems to be a global empire that's desiring to emerge and totalize control. And we'll talk a little bit more about that, but I think we've seen these forces of empire throughout the different whether it's the Holy Roman Empire, whether it's all which you just mentioned with Galileo, there's been a suppression of this esoteric metaphysical knowledge that's existed not only for the last 100 years, but for thousands of years. And this brings up the the concept of these secret societies and how So, I'd love for to get your opinion on you know, what that has been and how that is kind of potentially led in to this 200 or the or the 12 or however however you want to aggregate the inner circle of of the they, the empire. >> Well, I think it's Look, it's highly specialized and compartmentalized. So, there there are people who work in this space uh and and if you've ever been in a TS/SCI setting, a top secret special compartment information setting, and I have been for 30-some years um as a technically an outsider, but who gets pulled in to a SCIF, a secure compartment information facility, to brief people. And having to brief the around over a thousand of these sort of folks who are whistleblowers and witnesses to this, what I've learned is that there are very few people who actually know what the picture is, right? So, it's not as if if if you're working at the Lockheed Skunk Works as an engineer on a reverse engineering an extraterrestrial vehicle and then building one of our own that are flying out in the Mojave Desert, which is what those are, they're ours. Um you're not going to be read into the compartmented projects at the agency dealing with sci-ops or technologies that interface with consciousness that can be weaponized, etc. And vice versa. So, so first of all, I think that uh, same thing with these alleged secret societies. I mean, I've addressed 33rd degree Masons and various other groups within these elite groups and most of them, frankly, they wouldn't know where the washroom is on this subject. It's not some vast >> Yeah. >> Uh, it's highly compartmented and controlled. So, it it it the structure of it is very different from the internet if you Google these conspiracy things. So, uh, that's one point. The the other is that it's actually more diabolical because of the compartmentalization and the left hand not knowing the right hand is even doing. Check that. That the left hand doesn't even know the right hand exists. It's very easy to manipulate people in all walks of life um, who do things or carrying water for that agenda, but they have no idea they are. Because they're not read in. They're not briefed on it. So, this becomes a very big problem if you purport to have a democracy and a free society. Uh, and it doesn't if you're clever enough in structuring it this way and embedded enough operatives in enough locations, you can do that. And whether you're the president or someone or writer for the Wall Street Journal, you're all going to be targeted. All such figures are going to be targeted with a disinformation ex- expert. Um, and uh, and other methodologies that say that are a little more unbelievable. Uh, to to cause the correct outcome. And the the danger is a very different from more ancient times where there were secret societies and powers and empires is that you're now dealing with folks who would be I would say several orders of magnitude worse than anyone in in the Third Reich in Germany in World War II but who have very advanced writ large technologies. I'm not trying to frighten people here, but imagine what 80 years and trillions of dollars of studying recovered extraterrestrial communication conscious interface systems, energy systems, propulsion systems, material sciences, biological, nanobiological systems uh would result in. And being unchecked, like Eisenhower said of the military-industrial complex being out of control, uh which happened on his watch, absolutely, unfortunately, and and no fault of his own except he trusted people he shouldn't have, but we're now very long down the road, a dangerous road where this unchecked power is not just wedded to people who have this this uh mental illness wanting to have domination uh and control and totalitarian control over others, but they're they're backstopped now with some of the most advanced technologies that have ever been known on planet Earth but that are very clandestinely held and used and that neither the president nor the Congress have any control over. Moreover, I will say with with certainty they have no knowledge of. Because I'm the guy they're on Capitol Hill meeting with these men and and women. So, I think that one of the problems here is this is and this is overused, but this is an existential threat to life on Earth and humanity what's going on unchecked here, which is why I gave up my medical career to found the disclosure project to bring all this out. But when you start looking at it, um, the modern-day say let's say the modern-day version of what you're describing with these other empires of old is those others would be a laughingstock compared to the capabilities of the current system uh, because of the technological capabilities some of which people know about such as the internet and social media manipulation and, you know, media control and things like that that are pretty obvious anyone with a thinking brain. But what isn't so obvious are technologies that cross over through these dimensions and that can affect behaviors and outcomes and what is called in the CIA stagecraft where you can stage events that look 100% like something from another dimension or the return of Christ or an alien craft or an alien being when it's all staged by humans using these advanced technologies. So this this is where you get into a big problem when you you let this Frankenstein get created in the 40s and 50s, it gets up off the table and it's walking amongst us in the world and no one has put that Frankenstein back on the table. And I think that is the real failure of governance if you want to I'm not a political person. I have to deal with a lot of political people. I have to be extremely non-partisan, but I will tell you that this is a very serious problem because the folks running these covert programs at that very high level, let's say the most elite you know, two or 300 folks um globally, not just US and and who are read into the agenda of of of this kind of totalitarian long-term agenda of controlling the population, not just of United States and Europe, but of the entire world. Uh, the only way to achieve that is through the psychological manipulation of people by convincing them there's a threat from outer space. So, that is the punchline of what Wernher von Braun, who invented the rocket for Adolf Hitler, said to uh, a woman on my team who I was just texting with today, uh, Carol Rosin, who was hit the spokesperson for Wernher von Braun in the last four or five years of his life. And in 1974, he said point-blank to her that they were going to hoax an alien threat so that they could control the world through and world domination by uniting the world not in peace and enlightenment and prosperity, but in war and interplanetary conflict. That is what I've been trying to avert. Uh, and her whole life has been that, and it's a very heavy lift because if you go to any UFO conference, and Google the subject, 90 plus percent of everything that's going to come up on your computer screen has an algorithm to push it to you that is false information, completely well-developed disinformation about the ETs, the whole subject, conspiracy theories, alien abductions, mutilations. And I think the problem with it is that I can prove that, but given the fact that the media is controlled by these same interests, left, right, and center, by the way. I mean, if you're talking about the large media, one's as guilty as the other at being completely at a very high level uh, canceling and blacklisting any information that begins to get towards the truth on this subject. So, how is the public going to know? This is a daunting task for those of us leading this effort it in the Disclosure Project. >> Yeah, and it's I mean, this isn't this is an old playbook, but they've they've gotten wiser because as you know, if we look at history every empire's fallen, right? When you have an when you have an overt external facing empire, it will it will eventually crumble. So, they learned some lessons there and said, "Okay, we got to be behind the scenes here so nobody can't, you know, point their pitchforks or guns or whoever technology advanced, you know, so that this could crumble. There's no barbarians that can even find us let alone show up at our gate." So, they've gone covert and then they've exponentialized their ability to propagandize and use sci-op. But, it's still it's the similar playbook that, you know, the the church used to suppress information like Galileo and all of these things that was challenging their power position as the intermediaries to God and and the persecution of all of the shamans and the people that they called witches who had actually the technologies and the ability to interface with the divine and spirit through that and just the the massacre of all the quote witches, all of this. So, it's by force, it's by misinformation, but now they've exponentialized both force and misinformation. So, and they're covertly operating. So, they're in a really powerful and dangerous position. Um and it's it's this definitely the most intense and scariest time that I think the world has ever known. >> Oh, it is. And and it it it's it's when I say it's a threat to all life on Earth and the human future, it absolutely is. But, I'm optimistic that if enough people will learn of the situation and, you know, the whole the whole thing that we had in our documentary Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind about how we make contact with these civilizations. When you study uh in physics uh what's, you know, known as it used to be called this 1% or or this effect in consciousness where 1% of the people begin to do something in consciousness and it shifts the other 99%. >> Right. >> And and they there's a area of quantum physics that have studied this uh where 1% of molecules become coherent and then the other 99 immediately fall into line just because of the power of that coherence of the 1%. So, I'm optimistic if we can get a 1% threshold. It's not like an election where you need a plurality or 51% even. Um you only need 1% of people who really understand this and and then begin to practice not only in consciousness and meditation, but in speech and in action and it will then shift the whole direction. So, that that's one of the reasons why uh while things are are are trending towards dissolution uh I think that perhaps phoenix-like out of the ashes that there is still a great deal of hope that our civilization can move on to this next higher level that is what our intended pathway is both physically and spiritually. Uh and that has just been forestalled for about a hundred 150 years through the machinations as we've discussed of of people who want to be demagogues and you know, uh or megalomaniacs who who just want to control things. So, uh and by the way, the reason that they allowed the big breakthroughs in uh digital and internet type technology and crystalline silicon chips and things of this that were a direct spin-off of studying extraterrestrial materials back from the '40s and '50s is that they knew that could be used to control people through the internet and central communications whereas they held back the energy and propulsion systems that would liberate the whole world and every village in the world with free energy and would have ended poverty and pollution and uh terrible inequality globally uh frankly before I was born or you were born. And by the way, I just turned 69 two weeks ago, so I'm no spring chicken. So, I think this is a real issue that you have to begin to look at is what kind of intervention is needed to get us on a course correction, >> Right. >> Yeah. And, you know, I think this suppression of the technologies that you mentioned over the last 150 years, again, I'll point to that there's been a suppression of the consciousness technologies, the sacred plant medicines, which have been, you know, persecuted in a variety of different ways, the the wisdom traditions that allowed people access, unmediated access to the divine in the field, which is imbued, in my experience, with love, with goodness, actually, when you access this field. And so, the suppression has been going on for a while in the human psyche and the human heart, and then it's probably led into the product of these individuals who can take this Machiavellian approach, this kind of diabolic top-down control ideologies, they're part of a product of earlier suppressions, where that 1% would have become, you know, far greater if people were able to actually access this field of this field of love, and then be inspired and compelled by their goodness. So, all of these things are kind of related, all of these decisions made by people seeking power over goodness, over thousands of years have actually led us in some way to this situation, and I think one of the things that I'm I'm also optimistic about, just a thread, is the this renaissance in psychedelic medicine. I think there's a lot of people probably who are even on the inside of these organizations that are suffering from depression or anxiety or some of these medical conditions, and as these psychedelic intervention therapies become approved and proven to be, you know, highly effective, I think a lot of people may go in thinking like, all right, I got to I'm going in for smoking cessation, I got to quit smoking, I'm going in for my anxiety, going in for my depression, and they're going to have a transcendental experience of love and God on an MDMA-assisted psychotherapy for their own trauma or something like that. And then, we may get actual defection from the inside of of the of the empire itself. >> Maybe. The other part of it is is that if one develops these capabilities innately, even if at some point it's a an initiating ritual that helps you, it still takes a huge amount of discipline every day to engage in the meditative process, the higher consciousness, the practices, right? And that is something which is difficult for our society in the internet age and social media age, where we want instant gratification. And so, there's a a proclivity to pivot to something that gives you instant gratification rather than permanent development of higher consciousness capabilities. CE-5 contact is what we call the consciousness meditative process we're using to be able to contact ET civilizations and craft and invite them in, vector them in to an area, and have an inter- interaction. And we have a film out called Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind that's all about that. Then, you can see what we're going to do with that at drstevengreer.com. So, it's this bringing the mass consciousness together in a meditative state to make peaceful contact with these civilizations and create that 1% what used to be called the Maharishi effect, that 1% effect. So, that's what we're going to be doing, and we've been doing this since 1990. This is our 34th anniversary of the CE-5 contact um uh ambassador program. We call it Ambassadors to the Universe cuz really what we want to do is train people to be human ambassadors to these other civilizations where they recognize what is our point of commonality. It's not going to be our race or gender or sexual orientation or skin color or ethnicity or any of that. It's going to it cuz we're we're human and they're non-human. But they're conscious and we're conscious. And so what what I discovered early on when I had a contact experience when I was uh 18 and went on a board of craft and had this entire thing unfold was and it was 6 months after I had a near-death experience uh where I was foolishly, it's a long story. Anyway, I was a jock who got injured and didn't take care of it and it got infected and I went into sepsis and renal and liver failure. Anyway, um but here I am. So and I died and was out there for quite some time. And what was fascinating uh is that the ETs, they were interested in me as a young boy or 18-year-old young man and because I had experienced um this infinite state of the mind that's within each of us and that that was the point of connection between humans and these other civilizations and they know this. So the the key to this is what we started out discussing and that is the science of consciousness and this non-local conscious field and that is the absolute uh foundation of inter planetary peace and relations. And so it it it in a way the problem is spiritual and the solution will be spiritual. >> Mhm. >> But not necessarily religious. I mean I use spiritual in its universal sense like you have in terms of this consciousness experience and higher consciousness uh rather than the catechisms and beliefs of any particular sect or or uh organized religion. And I think that is really the big lesson that we're going to have to learn is is how to transcend all our divisions into this state of unity consciousness and have that be the foundation for our relationship with these other peoples. So, I call them people. >> I agree with you 100% and I fully receive the caveat that you mentioned about the utilization of psychedelics and also from being on the inside and watching individuals who would have never never approached a relationship with spirit or never approached a relationship with the unifying field of love having, you know, in the Quechua language which is, you know, I've studied with some of the Quechua masters and it's called a chacruna a bridge and these are meant to be bridges. They're to bridge you to another state of consciousness and you receive that information and once the bridge is created, like your near-death experience, there's a bridge that was created and once the bridge is created, contact is available. And I've seen that actually work in a in a really beautiful way that's encouraging where people who wouldn't care about God, nature, the spirit, you know, the universal human thriving will have one of these experiences and then from there they're open to it and of course then it takes a regular breathwork practice or meditation practice to stay connected, not become reliant. There's traps. There's traps everywhere, you know, if you if you mistake the bridge for the goal of the bridge, right? So, you start to worship the bridge, not the not the citadel that it's leading to. >> Right. >> Well, the same is true the same is true with teachers, you know, I mean, this is one of the problems with organized religion. Is that people get attached to the lantern and forget about the light. So, let's talk about that. You know, the the the lantern of Christ or Krishna or Buddha or Muhammad or or whoever it is, that lantern was the vehicle, but the light, the knowledge, the consciousness, the teach that's what should be the focus and instead people start murdering each other over the lantern. >> Over the lantern. >> And and that's that's looking at the lantern and forgetting about the message of the light all together. And this is the it's the same thing with what you the analogy you just used about the bridge. And I think this is a bit of wisdom that we all need to start talking about more and it isn't that you can't identify with a tradition or religion, but you also have to add to it a very universal perspective in a time where we're not only emerging trying to emerge as a global civilization, but an interplanetary civilization. I mean, people think it's a challenge to deal with race and all these other things, but what we we're already being confronted with the fact that there are civilizations out there wanting to establish open contact with us, but instead we've been shooting them down with advanced electromagnetic weapon systems. And you but we need humans to understand that the foundation for a relationship between humans and non-human intelligent life from other planets. Where What is it going to be? It's got to be something transcendent at the level of consciousness itself. And it's interesting cuz if you when you look into the eyes of an ET being and I have an extraterrestrial being behind whatever external form it is an intellect and emotion and all the superficial things, they're conscious and awake. And I and I'm conscious and awake and that's the singularity. That's what Erwin Schrödinger talked about that the mind is itself a singularity. And when you realize that, you realize, ah, that's where we're brothers. That's where we're all one. That's what And anything else isn't going to work. And this is the problem with our current politics. Um, you know, if you just divide into a million different divisive components, all you're going to have is division. And it's like a beautiful garden with a a a diversity of flowers, but no one seeing that it's really one beautiful garden and the sap, the life force within each flower is the same. The life force, that energy. And so we're That's why I don't think the social, political, and psychobabble is is not going to fix this. It's really going to have to be the knowledge and experience of this deeper level of consciousness and spirit, which transcends any individual uh organization, faith, belief. It's it's something very elemental, very deep. And that usually gets lost in the catechisms of sectarian organizations and even consciousness movements. It becomes about the guru. And this is why I always tell people, "I'm not your freaking guru and you know, you're you're awake and conscious. I can help share things. And now you In fact, I you know, I was talking to Tony Robbins about this that you know, when you wrote a book, I'm not your guru. At a certain point, what we all need to do is share what we've experienced and how to maybe get there, but then everyone has to develop their own path into that unbounded aspect of themselves because the best thing a teacher can do is really awaken or remind someone of what's already in them. Cuz everything is folded within us. Uh I you know, I love the saying that says uh it's from the Persian. You think you're a small thing when in re- in reality, the entire universe is folded within you. That everything is folded within like a quantum hologram. The entirety of creation is folded within the consciousness structure of every single conscious being, you, me, your neighbor, the homeless man on the street. And once we see and realize that, that's the foundation of not only peace on earth, but peace on earth and in space. >> Amen. Amen to that. And I want to return to this thread, but there's a couple pieces, a couple breadcrumbs he left that I want to follow. So, the first the first one is um you're talking about us knocking down craft with directed energy weapons or electromagnetic weapons. And I understand that we're capable of such, you know, such technologies to be able to do that, but the skeptic in my mind, if I had to just give that skeptic a voice, is like, well, why wouldn't they have defenses for that? I mean, clearly, as much as we've developed, they're clearly more developed. You know, I would say that's fair to say. So, how is it how is it that we're even effective? Are we catching them by surprise or how's that how's that working? >> They're caught by surprise. And if you want to back into something that is a little scarier, um we will. Um but first let me say, one of the mistakes people will make Let's say um you're in a Sikorsky helicopter and you're flying over, you know, a village of native people who only have arrows and spears. Now, they can throw an arrow into the rotors of that thing, and if they're just lucky enough, it'll jam it up and it'll come down. Not a high kill rate, not a big success rate, but it can happen. All right? This is the equivalent. So, back in the '40s, when we were first further experimenting with Tesla scalar type electromagnetic systems, these were put on radar arrays uh that would paint these objects and then would hit them with these electromagnetic field beams. And when they did it, where they switched them on by surprise or very quickly, um yes, they have defenses, and yes, they know those that can happen, but as we say in the emergency department, [ __ ] happens. And excuse my language, but so one of the problems is that people think just because they're more advanced technologically, they're infallible. Only the supreme being is infallible. And therefore, while the kill rate isn't 100% or even 1%, over 80 years, it's happened a few thousand times, not a few hundred. And so this is a very dangerous game being played. No one at the United Nations or State Department or the White House or the Congress, I can assure you, or at Buckingham Palace or at 10 Downing Street are aware of these capabilities or doing anything about it. And yet our continued aggression towards these civilizations is a threat to all life on Earth, not because these civilizations are hostile. If they were, we wouldn't be having this conversation. They would have already shut us down. It's because at a certain point our technological curve just keeps going up non-linearly. And our capabilities begin to reach parity or equal with the ET capabilities where we are a genuine threat not just to ourselves, but to life out there. And we have already we're reaching that point. So that we're at a tipping point. And I have been told by people who worked at Edwards Air Force Base and Nellis and and Area 51 and and and the agency, the CIA, that in fact or NSA, recently an NSA operative, that they have communications that these civilizations are at such risk that they cannot let us continue on this technological curve and and curve of violence uh where we continue to use their ET technologies against them. And that's what's been happening in this R&D the cycle for 80 years that no one is talking about. This is a serious threat to world peace and security, much larger than China, Iran, Hamas, Russia, much orders of magnitude worse. >> Yeah, I mean, we've been we've been relying on the >> It's the threat that no one's talking about because they don't know about it. Which is why the Disclosure Project efforts are so necessary in order to correct that dialogue happening in the public and in the world's capitals. >> Well, we're we're fortunate that the consciousness has been infused with their technology so that actually they've risen in kind of an according level where their consciousness is developed to a almost Christic level of consciousness, this turn-the-other-cheek consciousness, which is preventing them from striking back, but we can't we can't push this so far that it becomes existential to them and still rely on a Christic level consciousness where they're allowing us to >> what's happened cuz they're >> Right. >> That level does not keep them from protecting their own planets. So, let me let's talk about longitudinal scalar weapon systems for a moment. Uh I know it's a little techy, but you everyone knows what electromagnetic is. It's a waveform and the speed of light is 186,000 mi per second, which means every second it's traveling 186,000 mi. A longitudinal or scalar signal is a point that goes out in a line without the wave component. It's many, many times the speed of light. And if you refine it enough, it's in a non-local quantum entanglement where it's instantaneous across vast distances. Those have been weaponized. So, now, there's another I hope I don't cause everyone not to sleep tonight. There's another component to this. And this is something that I I've known about for some time, but not until last September did I realize the degree to which it was actuated and operational. And that is where they have taken um people with innate uh let's call them side psychic abilities and consciousness abilities in poor countries and kidnap them. Uh I said, "Look, you can either die here where you're dying or we will take you and you'll work with us." And these covert programs then fly them in in crates. And I have two people on my team who are military who've seen these and dealt with it. And then they're brought into a dumb, a deep underground military base where they are made guinea pigs. Uh where they attempt to to train them to be a human conscious technology interface to take over the control mechanisms of extraterrestrial vehicles which have consciousness technology interface uh operational systems. That's how they operate. You You're standing on the craft or an ET, you may have your hands on something, but you think to the console and it does it. You think to go out to that part of space and you go there. And way beyond what Elon Musk is working on Neuralink. I mean, this is way advanced stuff. But those programs have been going on for some decades. A- And covert programs and they have what are called P3 operators. That most of them die or end up in a coma. >> I mean, this is This is the This is the plot to X-Men, basically, right? Like they're kidnapping people with extraordinary abilities and then training them. >> I I've never seen any science fiction shows like that. I've never seen My life is strange enough. I don't need to look at nonsense. But what has happened is that they've taken these poor people, a certain percentage of them successfully become P3 operators. Now, imagine this. You can imagine like when Iran hijacked one of our high-tech drones some years ago. Look like a UFO almost. Remember? They actually hacked into the hardened uh firewalls for its guidance system and landed it so they could study it and reverse engineer it. You can Google this. >> Mhm. >> Um now, imagine doing that with an ET craft but using a consciousness technology interface. That's what they're successfully doing. I In September, I flew over two black sites out in the deserts out west. I will not say where. In a classified chopper with a man who is operational right now in those systems. I'll be seeing him soon. And with some of these P3 operators. And at the one site I was at, they knock down one or two ET craft a year using these P3 operators and the fixed uh on-site what are known as EMP weapons, so electromagnetic pulse weapons that have embedded in them a scalar signal. So, it isn't like just by chance. They actually take over through these P3 operators the guidance system of an ET craft if someone's asleep at the switch on that craft, move it into range, hit it with this EMP weapon, which by the way is in violation of the nuclear non-proliferation treaty to even have those. Uh and I saw them. I have the video and photographs of them. I've conveyed them over to the Senate Intelligence Committee. So, I think, you know, this is way further along. In my worst fears a year ago, I I didn't think that we had developed human capabilities almost like cyborg where they had developed that, but they have. And that's why it's it's not as just like it's just an object out there, we pick it up, and we try to hit it with a beam. We're also have people who have been tortured and imprisoned to become these P3 operators. And who are who are operational. And and I I've met them. And they're quite good. Now, most of them end up, as I said, dying in the process of doing this or end up in a coma because of the drugs and the machinery they're trying to interface with. It overwhelms them, and neurologically most of them end up in comas and die. But the ones who survive are can be quite effective. And unfortunately uh it's effective in a very bad way in terms of being able to kill uh a craft and knock it down and and get the bodies and do all the stuff that you've heard that we do. So, I've been at these sites. Uh I know where they are, and I know how they're operating. And we also, you know, we just released what we call the Disclosure Project Intelligence Archive, which you can drop a link. And you'll see in there there's a map that has 155 black sites on it named. Uh and uh not all the information that I know about each site is in there. Um for tactical and strategic reasons that we haven't discussed yet. But there's enough in there for people to see where everything is. And uh the key thing to understand is that the really important material and operations are underground. They're not above the surface of the ground. They're either in space uh off of NRO satellites and weapon systems there, or they're in these underground operation centers. >> So, what is uh when you one of the theories that people I think are hopefully and maybe polyannaishly optimistic about is not because you raised the possibility of these benevolent benevolent races, star systems that then in self-defense they'll have to act in a retaliatory fashion, but there's also people who are hoping that they act in a benevolent intervention kind of kind of way in which they actually instead of fighting fire with fire, they actually somehow benevolently actually take over some controls of what's happening here. What what is what is your thoughts on that as a possibility? >> Well, that's what my group is working with the ETs on. That is what we're doing. But, you know, they're not in order to this is dispersed all over the world, in space, underwater, on planes, submarines, ground you know, if they were to really neutralize these capabilities, it would look like an alien invasion, which is exactly what this cabal or or this evil empire wants everyone to believe. So, they're between a rock and a hard place. This is why they need humans, us, to lead the charge. Now, if it goes too far, yes, they could certainly do that. Um but even the process of doing that, this organization that's kept a secret will spin that as an alien attack, which would allow that organization to seize and consolidate totalitarian control of the Earth and all its people. So, the ETs are if I have figured this out with my IQ, human, they have figured this out. I I assure you. So, they have figured out that there is a there is a very small it's like Luke Skywalker hitting that Death Star just in the right place, right? I mean, there's a very narrow window for getting this right at this point. Now, you know, 60, 80 years ago, we had more leeway. So, I think that we need to figure out how to come together as a people to two things. Develop the skills to be the interface between those civilizations and humans, which is what the whole CE5 contact. There's an app called CE5 contact everyone can get and learn how to do the meditation, remote viewing, contact. It's It's just on your app store. Um and the CE5 contact community is working on that. Um I'm I'm also training people in the government who are friendly to this to do this. And and be ambassadorial, including military and covert uh programs. Um we have a huge number of people wanting to defect who are active in those programs. And people not in those illegal covert programs, there's a whole group of them that have been stood up that have been special forces and uh Green Berets, Navy SEALs that are working with me. Um who are assisting and are assisting at uh setting up the mechanisms so this transition can happen peacefully. And that these capabilities that are being abused by their fellow human, many of them brethren and Delta Forces and not whatnot, uh could be stood down. So, I we haven't talked about the complexity of what's happened in the last couple years with this project, but um suffice it to say that that's what I'm tied up with 90% of the time that the public don't know about. But, it is promising, but ultimately, here's what I think. The way this is really got to happen is a mass consciousness movement where That's why I keep doing these big events. The key to all this is the power of consciousness individually, but even more so, it's tenfold more when it's collectively with a group of people. And a group of people doing something in higher consciousness has way more effect than just additively. It's exponential. So, that's why we're the CE5 contact effort is so important to I think the future. >> good friend. Uh shout out to Rebecca Boatman who's showed me her father and her they they'd go and they do the CE5 method and she's shown me videos on her phone of some extraordinary things. Now, it's somewhat far away. It's lights and it's you know, it's it's uh but you see kind of feel it in the video. You feel that something unusual and extraordinary and inexplicable in the kind of modern context of what we're taught we're we're able to believe is happening there. >> Well, our team is our team has had the beings right in the field in the circle with us. If you look at the photograph of the ET that was in Arizona, um oh, well, in a few days I'll be up in Arizona in a remote site with oh, I shouldn't say who it is. A big household name celebrity who's doing this with us. But um maybe we'll broadcast something from there. Uh break into their Instagram accounts if they have a couple hundred million followers and see what happens. But um but but my point is is that uh we've actually had like in multiple occasions where the ETs have appeared in our circle or right in the field and communicated. We in one case, we had a man who had had he was an elderly man who had had a permanent hearing loss since he was in middle school. Um was completely healed by this ET. I call him the healer. And it it's a a very triangular head form with like a beak-like uh nose and um almost like a manta ray-shaped head. And, um, not manta ray, praying mantis. And, uh, and is they're known as master healers in the cosmos. And they're extremely >> I've encountered that being or something very similar to that. >> Amazing. And this guy was completely permanently healed that night of this hearing loss. Because he just at the end of the contact inadvertently said, "And by the way, if you could help me with this, cuz I'm not hearing much uh, you know, at the meetings with Dr. Greer, blah, blah." He woke up the next morning, totally normal hearing, has been ever since. So, it's amazing the kinds of things that happen. And people, it's all based on understanding um, that these civilizations when your heart is pure and awake and your mind is clear and you understand the technique not only will they come into sky, they'll come right into the field with you if you're ready. They're they're very sensitive, by the way. It's not like all the scary abduction stuff. That's CIA operations. >> Sure. >> Though, if if you're afraid, they won't they'll back off. >> That's That's so crazy that you mentioned that cuz that was my recent my most recent ayahuasca journey was exactly that. I encountered this mantis-like being and I was apprehensive and so I was like oh, I don't I like I don't know if you're good or or bad and it was like, "Okay, I'll leave." And I was like, "Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait." And I'm like, "I trust you." And then it was like, "All right, you sure?" I was like, "Yeah, yeah." And then as soon as I would get hesitant, it would back out. And then as soon as I surrendered into full trust, it was like a doctor, an interdimensional doctor, going in and weaving things that I didn't even know what he was healing or fixing inside my body, but it was profound and the shift in my own life and consciousness since then has been dramatic. But it But he was so it was so much based on but my trust. Without my trust, it wasn't going to go any further. >> And in contradistinction the UFO subculture is suffused in the mythology of different aliens that are bad and are abducting and mutilating cattle. We have documents and and direct military and Air Force intelligence testimony and documents to prove that those are all man-made. >> Yeah. >> Using what we call stagecraft. But because that's in the pop culture so much, when people start to have an ET encounter, all of that floods subconsciously into the consciousness and they shut down through fear. And when you shut down through fear, the contact stops, just what you said. So, the way to overcome fear, uh what is it that Krishna said to Arjuna on the battlefield? A little of this, capital T referring to this unbounded state of consciousness, eliminates all fear. So, when you're centered in this infinite aspect of yourself that is this unbounded consciousness, there is no fear. You're fearless. That's the Shambhala warrior state. Right? That is the true meaning of a spirit warrior. Not that you're killing people, but you're not afraid of anything and basically all the people who work with me are those kind of people. They're spirit warriors. Yeah. >> Incredible. Incredible. Well, that's that's absolutely phenomenal. I I know I want to be respectful of your time and and the important mission that you have in the world. I am curious though one thing that that arose in me is did Nikola Tesla, do you think, actually through the power of his own intellect be able to make these significant advancements like you talked about in in kind of depth about what he was able to do or was there did he have some kind of upper hand with some support or some assistance or is it possible for people >> Both. >> Both. Okay, so um I live where my farm here is in Virginia. Uh in Albemarle County. It's just about 20 minutes west of Thomas Jefferson's home, Monticello, and the University of Virginia. I can look up at the Blue Ridge Mountains to my west and see where the Swannanoa Institute is. Um and uh the man who wrote The Universal One, a medical doctor, whose name's alluding to me right now for some reason, but he mentored Nikola Tesla. And they had ET contact. They did. And this was way back in the early 20th century or late 19th century, early 20th century. Uh but Tesla was, of course, also a genius. You know, I It's reported that a report a a a journalist asked Albert Einstein, "What's it like being a genius?" And he said, "I wouldn't know. Go ask Nikola Tesla." But we know also know that he had this sort of consciousness experience and apparently this direct ET contact experience uh with this medical doctor who was here a hundred years before I was and um started the Swannanoa Institute and wrote the book called The Universal One. So, I think that it's an interplay because ultimately, no matter what your let's say augmentation, whatever you get for assistance, you have to have an innate capability to understand the concepts, the abstract, and make it into 3D, right? From higher dimension to 3D. >> Yes. >> So, that takes a certain aptitude that not everyone has. And I'm not an a a electrical engineer or whatever, I you know. Um so, he obviously had an innate genius as well as had contact. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I I've experienced it. You people think that when you channel, like you could channel something in Mandarin and you you just speak perfect Mandarin, but you can. It uses your vocabulary, it uses your conceptualization of the ideas and constructs and then takes that to the next level of what you're able to comprehend, leading you. But, it has to work through your own hermeneutic prism. You know, and so that's So, for someone like Tesla to have contact with that level of hardware, that level of conceptual understanding, what he was able to do, then can explain how he was able to make these advancements beyond just what the pure intellect could do. >> And yet, when he you know, he died a very bitter man and very uh pauper in New York. We have a document that is in the in our documentary, The Lost Century. Uh it came out about a year ago and it's it states it's a Department of Defense uh letter to the FBI demanding that they turn over, I believe it was 22 or 24 trunks of secret papers that they stole and seized at a Nikola Tesla's apartment uh the day he died in 1943. They invaded the place after he allegedly got hit by a car or something like that. And um they took them all. And we can prove that they took them. And whether or not those were ever shared with this department at the uh this part of the Department of Defense, I don't know, but the but the document is uncontested. It's officially released document, so we can prove that. And so, you know, one of the sad stories of the last 100 years is that geniuses and their big breakthroughs that would have ended poverty and pollution and given us a paradise on Earth uh have all been suppressed by these uh truly evil megalomaniacs who who want to keep the world under their thumb. And one way that you have to do that is to have everyone dependent on a centralized energy system. Cuz imagine if every village in India or Africa or South America or in all over the world, your home, uh your car it be a true Tesla, not a fake Elon Musk Tesla, but a real Tesla, that you would never have to plug in, right? It would have a free energy or zero-point energy generator, a little teeny 3-V battery would start it up, and your house, your car, a little village, anywhere in the world would have free energy, uh clean water, clean air, uh there'd be no pollution from it, no cost, no radiation. Now, that's the world that could have been 100 years ago. And it's been forestalled by these forces that are, quite frankly, evil in their intention and their greed and stupidity. But, that isn't going to change unless some people step up to the plate with the courage to take on that group. Uh what I've called for for a very long time is a few people of high net worth to put together a uh a R&D fund, an angel fund, to create our own lab to reproduce this, because in my archive, you can see this online, we have a CIA agent named Sajiki uh let a man I know, who's since deceased, copy uh hundreds and hundreds of pages of confiscated uh patents that that had this, and this is in my archive. But, you'd have to have a lab and a team of engineers to to stand to do this and do the R&D and come out with a system. I think it could be done, but it'd have to be done open source, and it would have to be done uh without any latency or time delay from discovery to release. So, you'd have to have the entire The whole lab would have to be streamed on the internet. Because if there's a an hour delay, that lab is probably going to be hit with an accident that blows the lab up. So, um true. I mean, I mean, I I know a number of people uh who who have been on my team who are dead because they made these discoveries and would not stand down and give them up. So, um there's there you know, one of the problems I've had with meeting with billionaires is that they have money and they may have certain technical capabilities, they don't understand the strategic landscape. And um if they don't, then there's no way I'll work with them because they're going to get all of the skilled. Um and so I say this very specifically. But I think that could be done with, you know, 20 to 100 million. Depends on how, you know, you wanted to how aggressive you want to be in the the research and how quickly you want to do it. Um we've never found any group that would want to do that because they want to do it as a conventional business operation, which is never going to happen with patents and intellectual property secrets and stuff like that. It's got to be like GitHub or something. Open source it. Um and so far no one's been willing to support that. But if they did, I think within a year and a half to two, we'd have an operational device. Uh system. >> Yeah, well, may it may it be so. I mean, I think people are hopefully waking up not only to the possibilities, but also the existential threat that will compel such actions to be taken. And you know, I know a lot of high-net-worth individuals as well and many of them have donor-advised fund DAFs where they've stored a bunch of philanthropic money. And if you create a nonprofit that's going to live-stream and do that, you just got to convince them that it actually is going to happen. >> We tried to form you. You talk about weaponizing federal agencies. Um we tried to form a nonprofit to do this for the environment and energy research and the IRS denied it. Flat out. >> Jesus. >> So, that that's that that that's a dream. That's a pipe dream, my friend. That's a pipe dream. They'll never let a nonprofit do this. >> Wow. Wow. Wow. >> Just trust me. We've tried. >> I believe you. I believe you. >> I've been doing I've been working this this space for 34 years. Uh and I've seen every dirty trick you can imagine from these government agencies. >> Well, I appreciate the diligence and and and obviously the deep love for humanity and our evolution and our thriving in a in a world that's that is the kingdom, you know, the kingdom that has been that has been kind of prophesized and imagined and felt and as Charles Eisenstein said, the more beautiful world that our hearts know is possible. And thank you for fighting every day and risking yourself and and and you know, all of the personal attacks and the threats and everything that you've gone through to put this information out into the world. It's a with the deepest deepest gratitude, deepest bow. >> Well, thank you. Well, it's my dharma. It's my path and um not been an easy one, but uh you know, I've accepted that and you know, I've given up my fortune and my career and everything else to do it. But and had dear friends who've been killed and you know, I was almost recently killed. But I in my view of it is taken I mean, I have 12 grandchildren now and four daughters. You know, I look at this, what kind of world are we leaving here and what can we create? I would not still be doing this and this is where I'm a a perennially an optimist, is that the horizon I see over this dark chasm where we are, uh which I think is going to get rockier still, frankly. Um is that we're going to have a civilization here that 50 to 100 years on after we get through this period, will be more different than 10,000 years ago or 5,000 years ago. That when the when this knowledge and the science of consciousness and these physical technologies are brought to bear, it'll be paradise on Earth, peace on Earth, peace in space, and there will be no limit to how far humans can evolve in consciousness, but also physically and in explor- exploring the cosmos. So, I think that's where our where our destiny lies and that's why we all need to be focused on that far horizon. >> Well, may God bless your path and and all the helpers, all the allies, all the beings, all the star nations who are uh you know, supporting that the force of life and the force of love. >> All right, God bless. >> All right, God bless you, too. >> Bye-bye. >> Thanks for tuning in to this video. 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