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Dire Warning: Narcissism is MUTATING (Interview)

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The core argument presented is that human personality is not formed in isolation but is fundamentally shaped by the environment and the people surrounding us, acting as a vessel or mirror for external influences. While we are born with innate biological templates for basic skills like language, these are merely mechanical tools; our actual identity and how we utilize these tools are entirely determined by our social context. This concept extends to collective identities formed by shared historical traumas and cultural experiences over centuries. Consequently, traits such as narcissism and psychopathy, which were once viewed strictly as mental illnesses, have evolved into positive adaptations necessary for survival in contemporary civilization. In this modern world, lacking these traits can lead to punishment or failure, whereas possessing them allows individuals to navigate a society largely constructed by mentally ill creators who built technology that demands such behaviors. The speaker outlines the historical evolution of the field regarding narcissistic abuse through four distinct stages. The first stage involved creating a language for survivors to describe their experiences, while the second stage saw the rise of a "victimhood industry" where individuals competed to claim victim status for financial gain and social rights, often labeling themselves as super-empaths. The third stage transformed this dynamic into a morality play where narcissists were demonized as demonic forces of nature, elevating victims to an angelic, blameless status. This moral crusade utilized religious language and liturgical implements, effectively turning the discourse into a religion that absolved victims of any responsibility for their situations while casting abusers as pure evil. Currently, the field has entered a dangerous fourth stage characterized by conspiracy theories that claim the entire world is run by narcissists and psychopaths who collude to enslave innocent victims. This narrative suggests that existing institutions, including law enforcement and the judiciary, are controlled by these malicious actors, leaving victims with no hope for justice through legal means. The speaker warns that this phase is being driven by charlatans and con artists who have compromised the media and academia without contributing genuine research or expertise. He predicts that this trajectory will end badly in bloodshed, as the incitement to violence encourages victims to take matters into their own hands with weapons, fueled by a growing hatred for authority and institutions.
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the concern we should have rather than whether we are seen. >> Of course. If you are seen by the wrong parents, you end up having a personality disorder. Absolutely. If you are seen by if you are seen in the wrong environment, an environment that is for example suppressive of emotions, an environment that frowns upon intimacy, an environment that is abrasive and aggressive and so on, then you develop one way. And if you are if you're born into an environment or interact with an environment that is the exact opposite, then you become someone else. You're shaped from the outside. And normally, I mean, the answer is obvious, I think, that absolutely people around you determine who you are. And in this sense, you are an extension and reflection of other people. There is intergenerational transmission, but not not in the stupid epigenetic sense, you know, I'm I'm traumatized my child will be traumatized because, you know, I have some I created some kind of trauma gene. That's complete nonsense. Not in this sense. In the sense that the faults and the strong points of people around you are carried onto you. You're a container, you're a vessel, you're a receptacle of your environment, and a reflecting mirror. And you're likely to pass this on. There is absolutely transmission, which is why we can safely say that there are collective identities. Racism aside, this is a very unpopular view, politically incorrect, you can lose your job, trust me, but it has to be said that definitely are collective identities, shaped by centuries or millennia of of common experiences, common language, because language shapes consciousness, uh common traumas, like the Holocaust with the Jews, for example, or the genocide in in Rwanda, or the Nakba for the Palestinians. So, we are definitely uh the products of our time and of people around us. Of course, there's something innate. We are born with templates. We are born, for example, from for a with a template for language. But, these these templates are mechanical. They're like These templates are about doing things. They're not about identity. They're not about They are about how to do how to So, you can you could call them semantic semantic templates. Semantic in psychology means skill, having a skill. So, semantic memory is about having a memory of how to do something. So, you could call them semantic templates. Like, you have these tools, like apps, apps installed on your smartphone when you're born, but the use you make of these apps is entirely up to you. You can use YouTube to watch educational videos. You can use it to watch cats jumping off roofs. You can use it to watch pornography. It's entirely up to you what you do with these apps. Never confuse the apps with the smartphone. Never confuse the apps with who you are. The smartphone was created by other people in factories. The apps are not you. The smartphone is you. And it is a product of the labor of other people, 100%. >> I often wonder that >> Well, >> [laughter] >> narcissism, attention-seeking, thrill-seeking, externalized aggression, and so on, are built-in features. They're features of technology, because technology has been largely invented by mentally ill people. By people who are schizoids, by people who are narcissists, by people who are psychopaths. We see the tech bros, yeah? These are mentally ill people. Some of them seriously mentally ill. So, technology is an offshoot of mental illness. And yet, it defines the world we live in. We have to accommodate ourselves. We have to positively adapt. We have to become We have to become in a way that allows us to be efficacious. Or self-efficacious. Allows us to garner positive outcomes uh from the environment. Allows us to act in and on the environment. In other words, what I think I'm trying to tell you is that narcissism and psychopathy have become positive adaptations. It is absolutely recommended for young people to become narcissistic and psychopathic. And I think narcissism and psychopathy should become part of the curriculum. And we should have syllabi of narcissism and psychopathy. Because if you are insufficiently narcissistic and insufficiently psychopathic, you are punished somehow. Or you are laid back, or you are, you know, you're loser in the game of life. You see in psychology, there is in psychology, we don't use the words good or bad. Good or evil. How do you identify a self-styled expert who has no idea what they're talking about? The minute they use the word evil. That's not a professional. Why is that? Why do we refuse to impose morality or introduce it into psychology? After all, some people are evil. And some people are good. Why do we refuse to introduce it into psychology?" Because in psychology what we call today mental illness is tomorrow's positive adaptation. Take for example Auschwitz. Auschwitz was a concentration camp and I'm told not a very pleasant place to spend 5 years in. If you were in Auschwitz and you were not depressed like if you were in Auschwitz and you did not have depression, you were happy-go-lucky and cheerful and jovial all day long you were mentally ill. Depression in Auschwitz is a sign of mental health. Narcissism in today's in contemporary society and civilization, narcissism is a sign of mental health. It's adaptation. We're adapting. When you're in Auschwitz, you should be depressed. If you're not depressed, something's wrong with you. When you're embedded in contemporary civilization and you're not narcissistic, something's wrong with you. First of all, historically, you're talking to the father of the field. I was the first to describe narcissistic abuse and I coined the phrase narcissistic abuse in the late '80s and early '90s. Consequently I'm the sole observer, to the best of my knowledge the sole observer of the evolution of this field from zero, from ground zero, which which is me to this very day. I think I'm the only surviving person. And I'm in this in this sense patient zero, if you wish. And so here is my observation. I think it it started with an attempt to come up with a language. People have been exposed to narcissists and psychopaths for eternity, but they didn't have a language. I came up with a lot of this language. A lot of this language is my invention, but there other people who have contributed neologisms and phrases and so on. And now there's a pretty coherent and cohesive language online that can be used by survivors to convey and communicate and describe their experiences. That was stage one. Stage two, people realized there's money there. All kinds of grifters and charlatans, with and without academic degrees, have entered the field. And they started to pander to victims. They took a ride to hitchhike on the victimhood train. Nowadays, everyone and his dog and his mother-in-law are victims. The problem is there's a scarcity of abusers. There's so many victims. Because to be a victim you need to be abused by someone. And if everyone is a victim, then who the hell is abusing them? So, that was the second phase, pandering to victims. There was a victimhood industry. Competitive victimhood. All kinds of idiotic labels such as empaths and I super empaths and supernova empaths and I don't know what. And there were unscrupulous con artists, again with and without academic degrees, who took advantage of this and still are taking advantage of this. And they made a lot of money. And they perpetuated the victimhood stunts or the victimhood mentality of people in order to self-enrich, of course. These people, on the other hand, collaborated gladly. Cuz to be a victim nowadays is chic. To be To be a victim endows you with specific rights and imposes obligations on other people. To be a To be a victim pays in a variety of ways, financially included. So, it's great to be a victim. And it became an identity. So, now have identity politics in in multiple ways. But, also in the narcissistic abuse space. That was stage two. Stage three, demonizing the narcissist. Converting the whole space into a morality play and a moral crusade where narcissists are evil, demonic, diabolical, and knowingly so, which is completely untrue clinically. Narcissists don't know why they're doing what they're doing. Okay, but there was this demonization of narcissists. And by implications, if you're confronted with a demon, you're an angel. So, there was an elevation, apotheosis, and angelification of the victims. The victims became impeccable, pure, immaculate, and and blameless, and had zero contribution to their predicament. Narcissist was cast as a kind of force of nature. And there was intentional and deliberate use of religious language and liturgical implements. It became a religion. Absolutely religion. That was stage three. Now, we have entered stage four. We've just entered stage four. Started about 2 years ago. Stage four is a conspiracy theory. It's the claim that the world is run by narcissists and psychopaths. That narcissists and psychopaths conspire and collude and collaborate in order to enslave victims. Pure, unadulterated, immaculate, poor victims who have contributed nothing to their situation. And they're victims by virtue of the fact that narcissists and psychopaths are also say this. They're They enjoy inflicting pain and ruining people's lives. And also, they enslave people for self-interested purposes. So, now we are in the conspiracy theory phase. And the same charlatans and con artists who started off the victimhood pandemic, they are now into the conspiracy phase. They're peddling Now, they're now peddling conspiracy theories. These are well-known faces. And the media is collaborating with this, colluding with this because it, you know, great headlines. You know? And so, they have compromised the media as well. They've contaminated the media as well. Some of them are very well-known, interviewed by one and sundry. And yet, these people have made no contribution to the field. They've published nothing. Never ever participated in any conference. Have never conducted any study of anything. And they're mocked and ridiculed in academe, where I belong. And yet, they're the face They're the face of the field. And so, this is the phase we're in, conspiracy theories. If I may If I'm allowed to make a prediction, it will end badly. It will end in bloodshed. I have no doubt about this. This will end in bloodshed. Some crazy guy, some crazy girl will pick up a knife or a gun and will shoot someone or someones claiming that they were not the you know, they were narcissists. They're driving people to aggression and violence. There are even images of the victims using guns and and and knives, images online. Even in documentary films. Even in in podcasts, you have incitement to violence. Absolute incitement to violence. Calling victims to take matters into their own hands because the judicial process and law enforcement are owned and controlled by narcissists. They can have no hope of justice from existing establishment institutions and structures. And this fits well with a more general trend of hatred and rejection of expertise, of authority, of institutions, of the establishment, and so on. We have this populist trend.