Did My Dreaming Spanish Challenge Misrepresent ALG?

What's up, grinders? Welcome back to the channel. Have you ever had an ex-girlfriend, ex-boyfriend, possibly? You know, someone you spent a lot of time with and then [ __ ] just wasn't working out. It wasn't going as planned. And then one day you decided to pull the pin on the [ __ ] and you walked out. You went your separate way. You said, "I ain't doing this no more. I'm moving on." Now, you might have lied about why you're moving on. You know, it's it's it's not you, it's me. But realistically, at the end of the day, you just wanted to get the [ __ ] out of the door. You were done. Okay? And then you finally walked out. Breathe that fresh air. Oh, thank God. And you started meeting other people. Well, that is exactly what happened with me and ALG. Automatic language growth. Okay. I moved on. And just like an ex-boyfriend or an ex-girlfriend, they [ __ ] started texting you. They started sending you messages, aggressive [ __ ] messages. You thought the [ __ ] was sorted. You thought you'd said everything. You guys were done. You moved on. And yet, out of the blue, these messages kept coming. And that was me after I ended my ALG experiment and I moved on. Like I'm literally testing new software right now. I'm testing Rosetta Stone with Spanish. Okay. And I don't know, maybe that just set off a couple of [ __ ] flares or something. But suddenly there is a very very small number but very loud number of ALG proponents who were very very unhappy about these recent changes in my uh relationship status with languages. Okay? because uh well for one the person who posted like thousand comments in the ALG thread within my uh discord well they left my discord but before leaving they packed up all their [ __ ] deleted every message and then left like they [ __ ] took everything with them they were not happy okay they didn't even say goodbye and then then this happens someone posts this on my Reddit my subreddit okay now if you don't know I have a subreddit now I don't talk about it very often cuz mainly I hang out in the Discord and I go over to Reddit too often because most of the comments on Reddit are saying [ __ ] like, you know, Evil Deer is a [ __ ] a [ __ ] artist. I hate that guy. [ __ ] him. I hope he gets, you know, balding cancer or something. You know, they say stuff like that and it's like, I can't bother reading that unless it's for content, then I'll read it. But I'm not going to read that in my downtime type thing. But this post came in and this is like one of those letters, okay? You know the the long text messages, the one where they send it, but it's so long they send you half of it and then you see dot dot dot and then the next half comes and then dot dot dot and the next half comes. This is that. We're going to be reading through this to find out what I did wrong. Hate dreaming Spanish all you like, but don't drag ALG and CI down with it. Okay, this is everything that was unsaid now being said. I write this because I think the entire discussion around Evil Deer's dreaming Spanish experiment has become toxic. I think that Evil Deer's experiences are valid, but the way he framed them has caused unnecessary toxicity. Okay, here we go. Let's find out how I [ __ ] destroyed something else. Much of the toxicity stems from how Evil Deer structured his videos in a way that attracted the most prient This is going to be one of those English situations, isn't it, guys? It's going to be You know what? Let's Let's [ __ ] I don't care. We're going to We're going to push our way through this. Most vested interest affected haters of ALG and CI in general. What? [laughter] Somehow my experiment got haters of both ALG and CI. You know, I'm going to be honest. I'm pretty sure the vast majority of my audience had never heard of ALG before I started my experiment. ALG 2 years ago was not exactly something that everyone knew about, okay? People were talking about learning like a child and there was like various implementations of that, but ALG was not something that, you know, every [ __ ] language channel spoke about. I think like Matt verse Japan spoke about it and then like maybe a couple has dropped some hints like other YouTubers dropped some hints but like barely anyone's speaking about but like haters of CI. Who the [ __ ] is a hater of CI? It ain't me. I got an entire course where I teach Espano via direct method which is literally CI. Where's the CI haters at guys? Let me know. Like [laughter] could you imagine being a CI hater and then also trying to learn a language? Yeah, guys know you can't use comprehensible input to learn a language. How do you do it? I do it via incomprehensible input. It's the only way, boys. If you're not doing it hard, you're not doing it at all. But a great deal also stems from these people's reactions and academic illiteracy. Well, I do have a problem around illiteracy. Okay, so maybe maybe I am within this category right here. Unsurprisingly, big words of these vested interest attackers attracted the zealots from the other side. And what you get is the sacking of the Great Library of Alexandria. [laughter] Bro, ALG is the Great Library of Alexandria. Jesus Christ. I didn't realize my series had burnt down one of Earth's greatest [ __ ] collections of literature. Wow. If I become like a a tyrant, a a titan of this world who takes over and controls all power, I'm going to organize a book burning, but just for ALG. and all ALG proponents are going to be burnt. I will burn you all [laughter] for stealing a thousand hours of my life. Please don't clip that and take it [laughter] out of context. There is a proverb that says if you repeat a lie often enough, it starts sounding like the truth. You know who said that proverb? Maybe there's a reason why you didn't say who said that proverb. That was a Nazi who said that prophet. Are you saying that I'm a Nazi? I am half German, but I'm half good German. I hope. Honestly, I don't know. [laughter] Could be half bad German. Oh [ __ ] I'm learning Argentinian Spanish, too. I'm just asking for problems. P1, if B is derived from A and B is false, then A must be false. Okay, we're getting into the science of it. P2, ALG is derived from comprehensible input. P3, Dreaming Spanish is derived from AG. P4, Evil De's experiment disproved Dreaming Spanish, therefore ALG is false and CI is false. I don't know who's making that conclusion. All that happened with me is I got to 1,100 hours or something [ __ ] of dreaming Spanish AG and I was just like a bro I'm not doing this I'm not doing this for another th00and 2,000 hours to reach the mythical layer of enlightenment you know and absolute fluency of a language like sure being a native speaker of a language would be great and all but I had not seen anyone in ALG yet reach the you know the pinnacle of native level so I wasn't sure how any more thousands of hours would be necessary. And I just went, "G, I'm I'm calling. I'm happy just being an Australian Argentinian speaker at this rate, you know, and claiming CI is false." I dare you to find a clip of me where I say CI is false. There probably is a clip of me out there somewhere. I say all sorts of stupid [ __ ] Probably just then. You could probably literally clip just that part and like farm that. P1 commits what philosophers of science call the Dunham Quinn problem. See, this is the problem. You've you've already done one problem yourself. You're assuming that I'm claiming CI is false. I ain't claiming CI is false. Therefore, anything you write down here is probably going to be based on a straw man because I'm not claiming that CI is false. I'm not even claiming that ALG is false. I'm just not willing to do it for another couple of thousand hours to get to a B2 level, you know? Plus, I think my audience kind of got sick of listening to me saying the same [ __ ] over and over, which is basically just me, guys. Guys, I don't think I've learned anything. [laughter] Next 50our update, guys. Guys, pretty sure I haven't learned anything next 50 hour update. Guys, guys, I'm starting to lose the plot. Like, I I think there's only so much my audience can take of that before they start unsubing just due to the fact that they get angry at me for being such a loser at Spanish. Okay, CI does not equal dreaming Spanish. We agree. Comprehensible Japanese, Korean from scratch, easy English, etc., etc., etc. I should make that a website domain etc etc etc and then that teaches you Russian. These are all curated content libraries that try to implement the CI principle. However, you do not need these curated content. I know I agree. I have a I have my own content library where I teach Espiranto via direct method using just CI. Here is a proper definition of CI. Oh, okay. We needed a definition. Procrion. any content in the L2 in which you can comprehend 70 to 80%. In that scenario, your language skill will improve by learning the remaining 20%. I'm pretty sure he doesn't say 70 to 80%. He probably says something like 80 to 90%. But realistically, if you're going the ALG route, you want 95 to 98% because from memory of my readings of crashing, okay, if you're less than the 90% range, you need assistance with CI. Anything above the 90% 95 98% range, you don't need that assistance anymore. you can actually literally just learn via context. Okay, so ALG is trying to work within that tiny little narrow slither right there at the end. So for instance, my CI for Japanese is the prime minister's assertion speech and my CI for Spanish is the papal ancille. I don't know what that is. I'm not Christian. Uh obviously you do not find these on comprehensible Japanese and dreaming Spanish. Content ideas for Andreas. For reference, my native languages are English and Mandarin Chinese, my heritage languages which I am A1 level up. uh Hakka Chinese and Hyanese. Okay, so this is not the same person as the one that was in my Discord because his native language was uh Portuguese. And it took about 500 to a,000 comments to find out that he had done ALG for Spanish. Yeah. And he was very successful. Just just putting that out there. And in case some people want to howl that the numbers are unscientific, 70 to 80% actually lines up the human cognitive capacity at remembering discrete facts. See any of this, this does not matter because ALG has to aim for the 95 to 98% so that you can do it unassisted. So why are we hopping on about 70 to 80%. 78% is great, I guess, if you're using assisted lookups and stuff, but yeah, that's pretty much it. And then you got here from far from being a fringe theory, CI is the core foundation of modern linguistics. Did I say it's not? Pretty sure I didn't say it's not. I'm pretty sure I just tested ALG, which by the way is not CI. I just tested ALG. That's pretty much it. Grammar drills, pronunciation drills, etc. Things that academic linguists rejected in the 1970s before Evil Deer was born to boot. I'm pretty sure you can find plenty of modern linguistics. By the way, if you guys are a linguist or a second language acquisition, you know, expert, feel free to drop down in the comments section a very, very thoughtout comment on whether this is true or not. And then I can pin that [ __ ] for uh anyone who's watching this video. However, the drills have survived because modern textbooks have rebranded the drills under communicative learning, output practice, interactive agency, uh leading both Swain and Long to denounce the industry for misappropriating their research to brand things that they were wholeheartedly opposed. I'm not going to go down the route of trying to figure out if that's true, as in go to Google, go search, go look for that type of stuff. I could totally imagine these guys, you know, actually having a go at the industry because the industry is doing basically what ALG is doing to CI where they're taking an idea that is true and then taking it to the absolute extreme because there is like you've literally got [ __ ] Mel out here with a spreadsheet telling you to just drill a [ __ ] 20,000 sentences one after another and that's how you're going to learn a language. Okay? There's lots of people who take things that are true and then take it to an extreme point where it's just complete [ __ ] at that point. Swain would be horrified that people are using her theory to justify evil deer's production anky cards. Well, they work perfectly fine for me. Okay. So, if Swain has a problem with me, she can get in the ring. We'll [ __ ] box it out. I'm just going based on what's worked. Literally what's worked. Production cards have worked perfectly fine for me in the languages I've been learning. And this leads on to AG. Okay. Funnily enough, the interaction hypothesis from Michael Long properly understood perfectly backs the principles of cross talk. Cross talk requires you to negotiate meaning with your native interlock using your L1. This purposeful communication that fits the interaction hypothesis to a T. You know what also fits it perfectly to a T? Speaking to them in the language you're learning. You [laughter] could negotiate the meaning with them while also using the language. The reason ALG likes cross talk, okay, is only for one reason. Because they're scared of damage. They do not want you to accidentally try to force out the language before you're ready and damage your ability to reach that absolute top level of damn near native fluency or actually native fluency. And if you don't believe me about that, there's actually I'm going to pull up something from the Dreaming Spanish road map which they got rid of very very long time ago. Okay? But this is what was on the original Dreaming Spanish road map. See this? This is level seven. You are for all practical purposes comparable to a native speaker. You can understand more formal speech and writing newspapers, novels or technical texts in your field without effort. You can understand any kind of TV show or movie. Uh be it scripted or unscripted. By this point, you also have a good grasp of the country's pop culture and you understand many of the cultural references and TV shows. You speak fluently and effortlessly and you feel in control of the language. You may still make some mistakes or miss a specific word, but it doesn't hinder you from being an effective member of society. At 1,500 hours, that was the original claim that you are for all purposes comparable to a native speaker. Okay? Now, credit to Dreaming Spanish for obviously editing that and pulling back upon it, but that's what basically ALG claims. And not only do they claim it to that point, they claim it to the point that you will reach a level in the language that no manual learner could ever feasibly reach. And you will always be in this weird state of uh there's a block between you and the language and you have to go via this type of like random [ __ ] thing that's sitting there. But you know, because you're not a native speaker, ALG reaches native speaker, you become a native speaker. That's the difference between ALG and other methods. their belief around that. Okay, with regards to output, we hit the next lie. The mythical view of the silent period fluency. This is Dreaming Spanish's big misrepresentation. Now, this I find fascinating. When I first looked into doing ALG, I looked into resources for it, okay? And I remember the ALG, some members of the ALG community, which let's be honest is [ __ ] tiny, okay? Were talking about how Dreaming Spanish represents the future of language learning because they implement ALG. If you want to learn Spanish, become a fluent native speaker, basically you got to go do Dreaming Spanish. And this was proof that the industry, the language learning industry was finally finally understanding what you needed to do. And obviously since then, there's been a lot more websites which have popped up for different languages implementing the same method as Dreaming Spanish. But now after I have done 1,000 plus hours of this method and decided to call it quits, suddenly [ __ ] Dreaming Spanish ain't alg [ __ ] poof. They just threw Dreaming Spanish under THE GODDAMN BUS. WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? Do you Do you want to take credit or not? Okay. Like if you don't want if you want to say that they're not ALG at all. Fine. Okay. But you're going to have to fight with Pablo over that one. He went to the original school that invented the method and taught the method. Okay. Now, I know the school doesn't teach the method anymore, but you're gonna have a bit of a hard time fighting with the guy who literally went there and learned there. And based on comments on my videos of others who literally went to that school, he's not far off from the mark. Ag has 10 levels across four tiers. Beginner, intermediate, advanced, expert. Notice where the tier is left off in Pablo's biographies, the expert tier. Now, because ALG tie tiers intersect with each other, you could really reach a low advanced level. This is actually a very, very obvious business decision. Why would Pablo invest heavily into making expert level content in Spanish when people are obviously going to stop paying for the service at that point? Instead, he made a super beginner level because he noticed, "Oh, we have a bigger problem." The bigger problem is just jumping straight into beginner is actually way harder for people to be able to endure it. Like, you have to be a diehard believer in the method to sit through beginner content and acquire enough of the language to be able to move on to an intermediate. That's why they implemented super beginner. And also you'll notice that super beginner is basically direct method. They lit they almost teach via direct method. The only aspect of direct method that they don't utilize in their super beginner videos is structure via a series but on an individual videobyvideo basis it's basically that. And for those who don't know what direct method is. Uh it's basically where you teach the language via the language. And I've made videos about direct method. I love it. It's a CI very very very heavy input method which is why I also find it absolutely insane when people say I'm anti-CI because I literally have an Esbranto course where I teach uh Esbranto via CI via direct method. And then we've got a link to the Holly Bible of ALGWorld.com. ALG's TI's official claim is that you will be at a native adult level fluency if you complete all 10 levels of their program. Okay. So let's go have a look over here. So you got level 1 2 3 4 5 6 5 10. Okay, 10 is expert. Now let's see what that says. So to create groups of people, we design AG to consist of 10 levels where each level is 200 hours. These 10 levels are divided into four groups. Basic, intermediate, advanced, expert. The diagram below shows how each level uh roughly coincides with the language development of his child in his native language. So how many hours are we looking at? You got 200. Yeah. Times that by 10. You guys can do the math. Yeah. Yeah. 2,000. Just Just making sure. That means I was halfway I was over halfway through. Do I feel like if I slept another 900 or actually less than that? Another what was it like 850 hours or something on top? Would I actually feel like basically a native expert level at that point? No. And that's kind of why I pulled out. I was not prepared to spend the extra 1,000 2,000 3,000 hours on top to reach this mythical level. However, that is still only half the program. Oh, okay. And also, as per the program's design, the actual acceleration is meant to occur at levels 5 to 7, which are meant to correspond to the linguistic development stages of a native 2 to 5year-old, what is known as the blowfish period. So, Dreaming Spanish's fundamental design philosophy got ALG entirely wrong. Pablo's ALG stopped at the beginning of the middle of level 5, and he implemented Dreaming Spanish as an adaptation of ALG based on his experiences of level 1 to 5 only. So, the claim here is that Pablo [ __ ] up ALG because Pablo only ever got to level five of their program and that's why his Spanish, sorry, that's why his tie is not native level and also why dreaming Spanish is wrong basically. But what additional would they do after those levels? It's this the same stuff just over and over and over. I guess you could claim that maybe with Spanish they should be saying the silent period should go for 2,000 hours rather than 1,000 hours. I don't know. Thus, any experiment that attempts to disprove ALG by only using Dreaming Spanish is invalid because Dreaming Spanish enhanced the derived experiment missed the core mechanism of ALG claims to follow. You know, the funny thing is I've never claimed to disprove ALG. All I did was show you what would happen if you went through this methodology. And if you say I'm doing AOG wrong, well then everyone's doing it wrong because the school no exists no more. If the requirement is you go to the school in order to do ALG properly, well then if you can't go to the school, which by the way doesn't exist anymore, then don't bother with ALG. You're [ __ ] anyway. There's no point doing it. But if the claim is, you know, I I still got to go for a couple of thousand more hours, well, I'm not prepared to commit. Okay, I'm just not prepared to commit. Now, whether you take my experiences as me disproving ALG or not, that's on you. Obviously, the vast majority of people who watched my series and left comments on my YouTube channel said, "Yeah, evil dear. Thousands a thousand hours is enough to tell me that I don't want to do this." Okay, that this seems like crap to me. I'm sorry. Obviously, it's not a definitive stamp of yes, it's 100% [ __ ] or yes, it's 100% correct. I'm just not prepared to go the extra distance. Like I thought originally I was going to be doing the 1,500 hours. I did not know they would be clocking up to 2 3,000 hours, which is what everyone in the ALG community started saying after a while where they're like, "Actually, Evil Deer, if you count all the extra stuff you got to do, you know, the unspoken stuff like 3,000 hours, you know, it's not that bad. You soon you'll be halfway, bro. I I got other challenges I got to do, okay? I can't be I can't just be doing the same [ __ ] over and over. My YouTube community will kill me. They're already sick of listening to me speak [ __ ] bad Spanish. You know what? Ag probably [ __ ] me permanently with Spanish. I'm probably going to permanently have a bad accent in Spanish. Anyway, whatever. In addition, ALG tie is a curriculum with a greater progression. ALG 1 to 10 stages in a course, not proficiency levels and uh uh to hit like DS1 to7. The key difference is that it is a greater progression like ALG Thai. Each level builds on the level before. One Dreaming Spanish video does not necessarily build on the next one you watch because you may switch between proficiency levels or switch between Augustina Shell and Pablo. That sounds more like direct method to me because that's what direct method does. It builds on each previous video introducing more and more of the language. But the difference obviously is with direct method they like to actually also teach the grammar of the language via the language as part of that progression journey which would be a difference to ALG. Now maybe you can claim that's what Dreaming Spanish done wrong but I never went to the ALG Thai school. So, for those who did, because I know there's a few of you in the comment section, uh, let me know if that is true. If every single lesson built 100% on the previous, or was it more like what Dreaming Spanish does? Pablo and Diaz misinterpret the foundation of ALG as entire the entirety of ALG. To be clear, this is not evil deer's fault. This is Pablo Roman's fault. Thank God something's not my fault for once. Oh my god, I'm so glad to not be blamed. [ __ ] hell, Pablo. What did you do to me, bro? You I'm I'm out here taking [ __ ] strays for you, man. So, what is the true purpose of the silent period? The true purpose of the silent period is to build the foundational fluency in the L2 so that your L2 does not build off of your L1 whether it is in pronunciation, morphology or syntax. Yeah, I've already spoken about that in the ALG. I've spoken about that as ALG's belief around it which is more the pronunciation side. I was talking about the accent and stuff but I did not find that to be happening for myself. Now obviously people have made up many reasons about why I failed at AOG and those reasons are around the fact that apparently I'm thinking about the language or something like people have lots of different ways of looking into my mind and knowing what I'm doing but apparently that's it. So for instance when evil deer confuses the Spanish and Esprano words for green that is because his brain consciously or unconsciously built an understanding of the Spanish word using the Espano word that's because in Spanish it is ver and espiranto it is vera. They semantically cover the exact same space. So that's why I confused them, okay, when I was pronouncing them because the brain likes taking shortcuts. This is an example of morph morphological interference. Goddamn big words, man. So therefore, if I if that means I fail at ALG because I speak another language, wouldn't that discredit the claim of ALG that if you speak a romance language and then you learn Spanish, it's only half the time of what I'm doing? because you would have so much more interference, wouldn't you? If we're going this route, then the best thing to do would to be speaking no language in any way related to your target language. And if it is related to, you know, your native language, then don't learn that language. It's not suitable for ALG. So maybe I should have done North Korean. Another example is where evil deer split the Chinese phrase. I remember this in English semantic chucks to match the English translation every other week. However, Joel in this context belongs to the lexical class of um that doesn't exist in English. So that is actually an example of syntactic. Okay, you can say that I'm using English here to understand Chinese and that is true. I am. But once you've practiced it enough, that falls away. You don't have to worry about that stuff anymore. So yes, you're going to use your native language. And that's what I did with Chinese. Okay. To help you basically demystify Chinese, put parts to bet together, and then once you practice it, it slowly falls away. Dreaming Spanish's core misinterpretation of ALG means that any experiment that purports to use Dreaming Spanish as a test case for ALG needs to be furnished with several caveats. That is not cultism. That is a proper experimental design. The problem is you cannot experimentally test ALG. And I've learned this via my 1000 hours because there is one claim of ALG that will discredit anyone if you want to discredit them. And the claim is they are thinking about the language. That is one of the core pillars of ALG is you're not meant to think about the language. So, at any point if you're going in a direction that I am unhappy with, even in like a a full-on experiment where you lock people in a room for [ __ ] two years with natives and you do the whole in-classroom style teaching. Okay, for those who fail, you can say problem is they thought about it. They were sitting there and they were trying to mentally unpack what they were hearing. So, they failed. And if anyone is successful, you can say, well, they didn't think about it. And yet, you have no idea of knowing that's true or not. Okay? So we cannot scientifically test AG. It will never be scientifically testable. But it still takes two hands to clap. The other reason why Evil Deer's approach is not following AG is because even from his first update onwards, he's still tracking how many words he has learned or says things like, I would know this word if I was using any other method. In pure AG, words are an artifact of grammar analysis. They don't exist. Well, you shouldn't be doing any grammar analysis. They don't exist in real language. And it is also scientifically proven the fact that by looking at a waveform of any speech alone, you cannot tell which section constitutes which word. And you know the funny thing is that's like saying color doesn't exist because if you go down into it, that's literally just light bouncing off of a surface and it's bouncing off of the surface at a different waveform. Sure, you could debate this on some individual level that you cannot see the words as a waveform, but we as humans do not deal with words on a waveform. We deal with them as audible chunks that we hear and we notice patterns within those chunks. Okay. So, I don't know why you're trying to debate this here like what what is this? Now, this is something that even most of the ALG supporters can't notice because they don't have a deep understanding of ALG. So, I don't know this person. Maybe maybe they went to the school where the one school that implemented ALG. Maybe they went through the entire program and therefore they have a greater understand. Maybe this is literally David Long. I have no idea. Okay, but unless you went through the same amount of program as Pablo, I don't think you can be taking shots of Pablo because uh the dude went through the program. Okay, if anyone's got a good understanding of it, it's him. And if anyone else has got a secondary good understanding understanding of it, it's me because I did the Dreaming Spanish implementation of it. So, Dreaming Spanish still holds the majority of the blame. In conclusion, when these two approaches fuse together, they create an experiment that is good for testing dreaming Spanish perhaps, but not for testing ALG as a method in general, and definitely not CI as a principle. I'm going to say this. If anyone out there decides that they want to redo my experiment and test ALG, don't. It is untestable. You cannot test it because you will just have people in the comments section saying, "You're thinking about it. That's why you failed." You couldn't even show proof of you doing the method without accidentally failing. Because what would you do? You'd watch a video and then you would say, "Yeah, guys, I understood about 20% of that." That's the best you could do. Because if you tried to translate and show your audience what you understand and allow them to check you on that, you would fail. That is deemed as basically a form of interference, damage, because you are mentally translating. you are now seeing that and you are doing a mental translation to your native language. That's damage. You fail. So literally, if you were to do this experiment, you would have to sit there every 50 hours or whatever time period you wanted to do and just say, "Yeah, I understand like [ __ ] 30% of that seems good." And that would be it. You could not talk about any observations. You couldn't say, you know, that there's an interesting thing about Spanish. You know, I've noticed that the endings seem to change on words like just I think it's based around gender or something. You're kind of like a gendered language maybe. Boom. You failed. That's a failure right there. You shouldn't have noticed that. Like it's it's not testable. So don't try to [ __ ] it. I maybe I should have been more literate at the beginning and read into the comments of all the ALG people before I tried doing my test because then I would know it's not testable and it would have been a pointless exercise. A bunch of you guys asked me for a final analysis on ALG what I think about the method. It is by far the worst method to learn a language. For the listening portion, it may be the easiest method if you have a lot of time available. But for just learning a language overall, it is by far the worst method. Now, does that mean we should just chuck it out and not do it? No. If you've tried everything else and it doesn't stick and at the end of the day, you like doing ALG, [ __ ] do it, bro. I'd rather you learn a language than not. That's pretty much my thoughts on it. If anyone comes up to me and they're like, "Hey, Evil Deer, so um I'm thinking about going to this uh this immersion school where they use textbooks and stuff and they they get you to do out practice or I'm thinking about, you know, um sitting at home and hiring cross talk teachers for a thousand hours while I just speak in English. Which method do you recommend? Go to the [ __ ] immersion school. What are you on about, you [ __ ] idiot? What are you doing? What are you doing? Why would you sit at home doing cross talk for a thousand hours? You're not even speaking." Like that's what I'd say. And if the person went, "But evil dear, I want to sound like a native." I'd be like, "Then find me a native ag because I am yet the fine white." Cuz that's the only claim that they have at the end of the day. That is that's the reason why you should go through all of this is that you reached this mythical native level. Maybe that's going to be my last video, but who knows? Maybe uh this is going to set off a new firestorm. Uh back to Rosetta Stone for me. I'll see you all in the next video.