Video summary
Adam Grosser opens his keynote by reflecting on his decision five years ago to merge his career in technology and investing with his lifelong passion for things that move. He argues that while the idea of linking economies to mobility is powerful, it currently faces a significant paradox: transportation is the largest contributor to greenhouse gases on every inhabited continent and remains the hardest sector to decarbonize compared to others like agriculture or the built environment. To address this challenge without simply adding another investor to a crowded field, he founded UP, a unique organization that combines capital deployment with company building and community creation. Grosser emphasizes that their approach goes beyond traditional investing; they actively build companies to stimulate corporate innovation where it has stagnated and foster both physical gatherings and intellectual communities to drive global progress in mobility.
The core of the UP philosophy is centered on transforming the moving world to make it cleaner, faster, safer, and more affordable for everyone. This vision is realized through vibrant, experiential communities that bring together investors, innovators, policymakers, and leaders from forty-six countries, including former US presidents and military heads, to share ideas and build connections. Grosser highlights that humanity's greatest leaps in wealth, longevity, and the reduction of poverty have occurred alongside rapid advancements in mobility over the last 150 years, a trend that is now accelerating with new technologies like AI and software. Despite the grim reality of rising carbon emissions across all sectors, he remains optimistic due to a converging nexus of inexpensive computing, electrification, autonomous systems, and on-demand manufacturing that offers a path toward a sustainable future.
Grosser then explores specific frontiers within this mobility landscape, ranging from space exploration to aviation and logistics. He points to the dramatic reduction in the cost of launching satellites into orbit and the emergence of electric vertical takeoff and landing aircraft as examples of democratizing access to technology that was once exclusive. A major focus is placed on drone delivery, noting that companies like Walmart are poised to surpass military usage in drone operations, delivering millions of packages at a fraction of the energy cost of traditional methods. Furthermore, he discusses breakthroughs in aerodynamics through blended wing body designs that promise significant fuel efficiency improvements without requiring new energy sources, alongside the transformative potential of artificial intelligence in autonomous driving, material science, and the rapid development of humanoid robots by companies like Tesla and Chinese manufacturers.
However, Grosser concludes with a sobering reality check regarding the timeline required to reshape these entrenched industries. He illustrates that even massive successes like Uber took over a decade and billions of dollars before achieving profitability, highlighting the difficulty of displacing established players and changing infrastructure. Despite these challenges, he urges everyone involved in the mobility ecosystem to push hard toward a more fluid, democratized, and interesting world where economies can benefit from innovation. His message is one of persistent optimism, driven by the belief that the convergence of technology and community will eventually solve the complex problems of sustainability and accessibility, even if the journey requires patience and relentless effort.
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I
am so grateful to be here. Thank you for
the time.
This is going to be a kind of insane 30
minute walk through the landscape of
mobility as as as
I'm defining it, which is kind of a an
unusual taxonomy. So, five years ago, I
retired from a long career in tech and
investing and decided that I was going
to try and merge everything I know with
everything I love. And what I love for
my entire life has been stuff that
moves.
And my thesis, my sort of conceit was
that mobility had been really stagnant.
And I'll define what I mean by that in a
minute. But that this idea of linking
economies and mobility together was
really powerful
but also deeply flawed right now. And
then if you overlay the sustainability
angle on it, what you're what you're
left with is a real quandry. And that's
because transportation is the largest
contributor to greenhouse gases on every
inhabited continent. And perhaps
making it even more of a conundrum, you
have this problem that mobility and
transportation are not only large
contributors, but they're the hardest to
decarbonize. It's way easier to
decarbonize the built environment or
agriculture than say jet fuel. So we set
out to create something
that would solve these problems. And at
the same time looking at the sort of
global macro, we realized that the world
didn't need another investor. There's
lots of investors and the world really
didn't need another group of people sort
of proitizing or trying to sell a
vision. So we invented UP and UP is a
very strange malange of three things. We
we have a group that actually deploys
capital. We're the largest investor
globally in mobility now. So we have a
group of folks that do that. We have a
group of folks that builds companies.
And the reason we chose to do that is
twofold. One, corporate
innovation has really stagnated. If you
get to talk about large corporations,
you know, Exxon or Porsche or or other
people who participate in the ecosystem.
So we thought we could help them. And
the third piece was we realized that to
build our franchise, to create this
vision that would be globally
recognized, we needed to create
communities. And so we've created both
physical communities where we bring
people together, thousands of people
over the course of of the last five
years. And we also create intellectual
communities by publishing interesting
research. So what I'm going to talk
about today is neither of the first two
pieces. I'm not going to talk about
investing or the work we're doing with
corporates to uh enhance their their
their sort of innovation stature. Both
of which are flourishing. We've built
over 50 companies in the last 5 years
and it it and created some astonishing
things. But what I'm going to talk about
is our communities. And the first thing
I'm going to do is show you a video.
It's 2 minutes of what one of our
physical gatherings looks like. It's
sort of the antithesis of a conference
that you would go to and sit in a hotel
room. Um uh and and
this is much more experiential. You're
it's much more participatory and frankly
it's much louder. So if you could play
the video that would be really a great
start.
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Thank you for traveling all over the
world to be here. We have investors,
innovators, policy makers.
Take this opportunity to have wide
ranging discussions bringing your
experience to what is something very
special which is helping us all go up.
Our mission is to transform the moving
world to help move people and goods
cleaner, faster, safer, lower cost.
Humanity's in desperate need of hope and
wonderment. And I cannot think of
anything that's more hopeful than the
physical manifestation of human
ingenuity through technology.
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It is awesome to be back on stage. page
at UpSummit talking to other mobility
leaders. That's what brings us here,
right? We are literally the connective
tissue of humanity.
>> Our mission is really to get to a
sustainable future as fast as possible.
I'm super excited about where this whole
space goes.
>> You come to something like this and you
see the impact of your work. We've done
a lot in the past year, but to see what
everybody else has done is really
amazing.
>> The community day on Sunday was awesome.
Just sharing it with people is great. I
mean, we got to share it with children,
with their parents. You tell them about
what we're doing, they get excited.
>> It's always exciting to see what's next
and what could be next. So, you know,
seeing a lot of the other exhibitors out
here today and and seeing what they can
do just re-energizes what we're doing as
well.
>> This event continues to resonate in this
industry. And I get really optimistic
because with the community connection, I
think you have roots. And I think with
roots and wings, we've actually got a
chance of making a difference in the
world.
Never give up. Follow that dream. Many
of the ideas that you have are going to
change the world. You're going to change
the course of human history. The world
needs the men and women in this room,
and we need you to be successful.
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So, just to give you a sense of sort of
how we've thought about this,
we brought together there an incredible
cross-section of people from 46
countries that have attended the
UPsummit. But at that last particular
one, we had two former US presidents,
six sitting governors, the four heads of
the US military, heads of a number of
the European uh military leadership,
about $3 trillion of sovereign wealth,
academics, entrepreneurs, artists,
musicians, and it's just this crazy two
and a half days of chaos, and then
people go off to their homes and they
remember that they had a good time and
and tell us when they see something
interesting. Um
it is a powerful way to build uh
connections across the globe. What I'm
going to transition to is one of our
research pieces. And you know our our
whole thesis is that we want to move
people and goods cleaner, faster, safer
with lower impact on land, sea, air, and
space. We tend not to fund vehicles. We
don't think that high capex, low margin
solutions. We want to do good while
doing well. And so we we've been very
very particular about how we think about
what that means.
And there is absolutely
no dispute that changes in mobility are
inexorably linked to changes in GDP. You
know, if you go back to Shakespeare, you
know, the average person in the in the
1600s never traveled farther than three
miles from their place of birth. And if
you look at the sort of seminal changes
in in uh broadly available mobility
whether it's steam the automotive uh
revolution in the uh early part of the
20th century or or aviation there is
this incredible linkage between the free
flowing of commerce GDP growth and
frankly a sort of economic support and
you can see this on this graph because
basically everything good that's
happened to humanity has happened in the
last I don't know 150 years and if you
look at sort of the the far right side
of this graph what you see is increase
in personal wealth increase in longevity
increase uh in in uh or decrease in in
in poverty decrease in in conflict um
and if you zoom into that a little bit
and this is sort of a timecompressed
scale that's probably incredibly hard to
Um, but this is sort of everything that
happened up until the scientific
revolution. And frankly, it's like, you
know, fire a million years ago, the
concept of a bed 200,000 years ago, and
then in the last 150 years, everything,
you know, radio, television, air
conditioning, electricity, the grid,
transportation,
discovery of DNA, you know, it's been an
amazing 150 years. And and the cool part
is those
rates of change only continue to
accelerate as I'm sure you're seeing in
software and AI and other things today.
At the same time that if you look at
that again the same time scale the cost
of moving something sort of is
marginally approaching zero which is
really really interesting because
suddenly that really speaks to
globalization. that speaks to a place
like New Zealand being highly relevant
to other geographies. If you can get
goods and ideas and concepts around the
globe. Um, one of the things that
Rosalie asked me to to think about
specifically was sort of the
sustainability aspect of it. And this is
why this slide encompasses why we
started up. The the the the chart on the
left is sort of the unfortunate reality
of where we're actually going. So we're
we're carbon emissions are continuing to
increase in in every sector,
transportation slightly faster than
uh uh other categories like road or or
or base shipping. But where we need to
go is the bar on the right. And so the
question is can you get there? And the
answer really is maybe. And a lot of it
has to do with political will and uh
other things that I you know perhaps um
I I would be less enthusiastic
than I was four weeks ago when we
suddenly started to uh cancel all uh
renewable energy projects and drill the
Arctic in the US. Um but be that as it
may, we are pushing back pretty hard on
our end to try and figure this out. And
the reason we're optimistic
is that there's this incredible
convergence of technologies. There is
this
nexus, right, that is occurring right
now where you have this con concept of
inexpensive compute and electrification
and autonomous sense systems and sensing
and new forms of manufacturing on
demand. And all of those lead to some
really, really, really interesting
ideas. And I'm going to talk about a few
of them today. But when we think about
the mobility landscape,
it quite literally is everything from a
bicycle or a scooter on one end to a
hypersonic plane and a rocket on the
other. And the staggering thing is in
five years we've looked at 8,000
companies so far, all of whom have some
skin in this game. And I for one am
massively optimistic about this. I mean,
yes, the vast preponderance of them are
not going to see the light of day, but
some of their ideas will, and one or two
of them are going to pop out the other
side. And there's starting to be some
evidence that there's a couple of them
are are doing amazing things. So, I'm
going to talk about a few categories
really quickly just from sort of the
philosophical or macro perspective, not
talk about any specific companies.
Um,
space is cool. I mean, I I became an
engineer because I'm really old and I
grew up when Apollo was happening and,
you know, everyone my age was just
completely captivated by the space race
and going to the moon. And I think that
continues today. I think when you see a
rocket come back down through the
atmosphere and land, it's really really
compelling. Or when you hear about right
now there are two private companies
landing uh doing soft landings on the
moon in the next couple of weeks. I mean
that's remarkable and you can see it in
the numbers. I mean you don't have to
look at what these graphs say. What they
what they represent is both dollars
spent and constellations launched. and
it it is up you know you can see it's an
exponential curve on both sides and I
think that reflects the optimism of the
community that the space economy is
powerful obviously you have rocket lab
uh here in New Zealand Peter is a great
guy love talking to him but as you can
see from this graph it's still quite
dominated by US launch and uh the the
other piece to think about here is
really the cost to orbit But and again
if you look at the blue line on the
right hand side of the chart it is also
asmtoically going towards zero. When I
was a kid it was like a million dollar a
pound to get something into LEO. Then it
was $100,000 a pound. Now it's $10,000 a
pound. It's going to be like a hundred
bucks to get something into LEO if
Starship continues to get move down that
path. Um and it's not really just
Starship. I mean there are Chinese
rocket private rocket companies that are
accelerating their own work. There are
two almost exact lookalikes of Starship
uh as well as Falcon and uh Blue Origin
and and and they are launching and they
are recovering and and you know I think
that they're going to be an enormous
enormous force to be reckoned with. So,
moving from space to my favorite topic,
which is flying things. And again, huge
shout out to New Zealand. The plane on
the left image there is a beta electric
vertical takeoff and landing aircraft.
Air New Zealand is the launch customer
to do cargo with that plane. Um, it's
flying. I have seen it. It is
remarkable. But this is really
remarkable to me is that 80% of the
people on the planet and I guess it
makes sense if you think about you know
seven or eight billion people have never
been on an airplane. So one of the
things we're trying to do is democratize
that experience and make it available to
everybody inexpensively and and on a
compelling basis. So that leads you to
how do you do that? Well, could it be
hydrogen? Could it be electric? And if I
asked you when was the first successful,
controllable, repeatable electric flying
vehicle and and I asked you for years,
you'd probably throw out numbers like, I
don't know, 1970 or 1980. And you'd be
really wrong because the first electric
flying machine that worked really really
well was the Lef France from 1884. Um,
and strangely it it it had a battery
that weighed about 900 lb, which is
about what a Tesla battery weighs today.
and it flew hundreds and hundreds of
times um quite successfully.
But this landscape is evolving
incredibly richly as well. So if you
just look at sort of how the the the the
the
field is changing and evolving and
growing, you're you're seeing tremendous
investment in electric ve vertical
takeoff and landing of electric
conventional takeoff and landing,
hydrogen-powered planes, supersonic
planes, hypersonic planes, and then
obviously all of the systems and sensing
and perception and ancillary uh
electronics that need to go with
And again, just like in any facet of the
mobility ecosystem, it is deep and it is
rich and it is really well populated.
One of the things that we have been
really I I think excited about and
helped catalyze is drone delivery. So we
helped support Zipline with what they
started to do in Africa with medical
delivery. And more recently we have uh
helped shape what Google has done in
partnership with Walmart. And what's
really remarkable is that Walmart is the
largest driver of of drone usage in the
world besides the military. And that is
a really powerful thing. And and in the
next year, Walmart will eclipse military
usage of drones. Uh just with a 100
stores, they will do on the order of 5
million deliveries this in in 2025. When
they reach their full capacity, they'll
be doing about 70 million deliveries a
year at a cost of about a quarter uh you
know, 25 cents each. So the embodied
energy of delivering something by drone
in the US in particular is less than the
embodied energy of cooking a hamburger.
So instead of having a guy on a
motorcycle show up or a guy in a car
show up with a you know a human being um
it it is a really really really
remarkable way to do it. You can just
sort of see the cost curve here. Um
again asmmptoically going to zero
through the use of technology.
So the other problem with planes and air
travel is it hasn't changed. And when I
was a kid, there was this incredible
Cambrian revolution of of air of air
transport morphology, shapes, sizes,
different planes. It was there were
there was a new plane every year. The
737 that we all know that is flown by
many airlines around the world is closer
to the Wright brothers
than it is to today.
And yet it is still ubiquitous. And
there's a huge problem with that. And
the problem is the graph on the left.
And that is showing the relative
efficiency gains through time. And all
of those efficiency gains have come from
advances in jet engine and efficiencies.
And they are running out of those. And
if you look at a 707 from 1960, the
silhouette, it looks darn close to a 737
today. And so the question is, what are
we going to do about that? And I'm super
excited that we're helping this company
on the left, a company called Jet Zero.
And these are some insanely brilliant
aerodynamicists who came out of the
biggest aerospace companies in the
world, who invented something back in
the late 80s called the blended wing
body that no one was willing to build
then. Um, but that you can build today
using advanced composits and new
manufacturing techniques. And what's
super cool about this shape is you get
50 to 70% better efficiency, better fuel
economy with the same engines, with the
same fuel. You are not requiring anybody
to invent anything magical. You are not
requiring a new source of of of stored
energy. Um, unless you think this is
fictional, the US government has given
Jet Zero a very large contract to build
this to become the next tanker and the
prototype should fly in 27. Airbus is
also going down this path with elacrity.
It's a really really neat space. All
right, so it would be really criminal of
me not to mention the word AI because AI
is in everything. So, let me tell you
how we're thinking about um artificial
intelligence. And Michael, who is about
to talk next, he and I when we when we
were very young, we worked for this
crazy Stanford professor named Larry
Tesler who ran advanced development at
Apple. And he said AI is whatever hasn't
been done yet. Um I don't know if that's
actually true, but but where we see
applications of AI, and we don't really
see AI as a thing. We see AI as an
applica, something to be applied to. You
see it obviously in all forms of
autonomy whether that's flying or
driving. Um we're seeing it in material
discovery, material science, chemistry,
uh supply chain and logistics certainly
in generative design and analysis
uh and and then ultimately in in some of
the work that people are doing around
humanoids um
pressing button. So for those of you who
don't live in San Francisco, Whimo is a
really really wonderful thing and Whimo
went from essentially zero rides to
being the preferred
uh delivery solution of people in San
Francisco and now Los Angeles. Um did
four million rides in in San Francisco
last year. We'll do 9 million this year.
And it it is a better experience. And
and I think once people try it then you
know you start to see the power of
software and the and and the the the in
inherent reduction in accidents and and
injury. Similarly what we're seeing in
generative design you can make parts
that use far less energy that that are
higher performing and uh able to be
manufactured on demand using new
techniques.
It's a really great space. humanoids.
You probably don't see how big this
market is going to be. And this was a
quote from a a paper that we saw the
other day. Total addressable market is
basically the entire population of the
world because we have mediated the world
to be uh addressed by a bipedal two
armed object. And it's astonishing how
much money has gone in. Um yesterday
figure announced that they raised at 20
times their last valuation or $40
billion. Um Aptronic raised a billion
dollars this week many others. But
what's also incredible is the speed at
which the robot uh community is
advancing. And if you look at like
Boston Dynamics taking 21 years or
figure taking 12 months, UCR has a
walking robot designed to work on oil
rigs that went from an idea to
production in three months. So this this
community is converging insanely
quickly. Again, China has a community
that is equally large. And whereas you
see Tesla in the US building humanoids,
you see Xpang and Xiaomi and other
automotive and electronics manufacturers
going into this realm. Cars,
huge sea change. It's not the US, it's
not Europe, it's China. It's an amazing
amazing transformation. There's more
capacity in China uh right now than
there is demand for every car on the
planet. Um BYD is probably the most
interesting car company. They're
building humanoids, they're building
batteries, they're building uh autonomy,
and it is it has been not only a
fantastic investment, but a fantastic
ecosystem play.
Much like that, you see Tesla vertically
integrating and moving from being a car
company to a technology conglomerate all
the way back to lithium mining, battery
manufacturing, robotics for factories.
And even with changes in policy, you're
starting to see that, you know, the the
EV adoption rate is going to continue
and it will continue to dominate. It's
the fastest growing segment in uh
transportation today. The US is woefully
behind in sort of all aspects of
infrastructure. I have a few seconds
left and I'm going to leave you with a
concept that one of the people on the
panel
talked about which is how long it takes
to do this. I've been really really
lucky to work with some seinal companies
that have changed markets. I've had IPOs
that take 13 years. I've had IPOs that
take 15 years. I had one that took 19
years. This is a chart of Uber and this
is the last I don't know 13 years of
Uber. It took $31 billion and 13 years
before they made a dime of profit. These
are really really hard industries to
reshape. there's a lot of uh entrenched
players who are trying to protect the
position and I think it's incumbent upon
all of us to push really hard and make
the world a much more interesting a much
more sort of democratized a much more
fluid place and the economies will
benefit from that. So thanks I'm around
if you want to ask questions later.