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In this episode of *The Iced Coffee Hour*, hosts Graham and Jack introduce Taylor, a guest from their previous 27th episode, along with her boyfriend Alex to confront rumors that they were on a blind date for the show. The premise stemmed from an Instagram Direct Message (DM) Graham sent to Taylor regarding a potential "blind Tinder date," which triggered suspicion in both Taylor and Alex given Graham's history of clickbait content involving Maury Povich-style reveals. Despite initial apprehension about whether it was a genuine setup or merely entertainment, the group proceeded with filming. During the recording, they established a code word—"porcupine"—to signal if Jack should ask Taylor out for dinner afterward; however, Graham never used this cue and simply left her to make the offer himself. When he did approach her post-filming, she politely declined by stating she had a boyfriend, leading to an awkward but ultimately humorous resolution where everyone realized it was likely just content creation rather than a real romantic pursuit. The conversation shifts to Taylor's relationship with Alex, whom she met during their freshman year at the University of Pennsylvania in Management 100, a required consulting class for Wharton students. They bonded over team projects and eventually began dating organically before moving into her parents' home seven months prior due to travel restrictions preventing him from returning to Sweden immediately after graduation. The couple now works remotely, with Alex spending long hours at Taylor's house while she manages the household chores like dishwashing. Their living arrangement has been well-received by Taylor's retired mother and protective father, who initially had concerns but were reassured after seeing Graham's channel. This domestic setup highlights their stability despite being in a relatively new phase of cohabitation, with plans for them to eventually move into separate apartments as they pursue careers in New York City and Boston respectively. A significant portion of the discussion focuses on modern dating dynamics, specifically the challenges Taylor faces on apps like Tinder where she often feels conversations stall or matches vanish without follow-through. Graham offers advice on improving profile engagement by using high-resolution photos and engaging opening lines rather than generic greetings, drawing parallels to YouTube thumbnail optimization strategies. They also touch upon the economics of usernames, noting that Graham's handle "Graham" was reportedly sold for $20,000 due to its SEO value and brand recognition, sparking a debate on whether such names are worth their astronomical cost or if they represent wasted capital in an era where handles can be bought back from inactive accounts. Additionally, the hosts share anecdotes about acquiring two-dollar bills at banks as unique conversation starters for tipping, emphasizing small gestures that leave lasting impressions. The episode concludes with Taylor addressing the backlash she received after her appearance on Graham's channel, including comments accusing her of "dishonoring Wharton" or suggesting inappropriate requests regarding used underwear found in DMs and marketplace listings like Poshmark. While these interactions were unsettling, particularly given the public nature of their relationship where Alex felt somewhat restricted from intervening directly due to social pressure, Taylor emphasizes that the overwhelming response was positive support rather than hate. She clarifies her intentions throughout the process, assuring listeners that no deception occurred during filming and expressing gratitude for the community's kindness despite occasional trolls. The hosts wrap up by encouraging viewers to subscribe to both channels and take advantage of promotional offers mentioned in the description, reinforcing their commitment to transparency while maintaining the fun, slightly chaotic energy characteristic of their podcast format.
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welcome to the 29th ever episode of the iced coffee hour with uh graham and jack and so far this podcast has made 22 919 to date wow both of you are naturals thank you you did it your first did you practice that at all i know as opposed to taylor i didn't practice at all yeah that's amazing that's amazing well thank you so much for agreeing to uh come on the episode guys we got a very interesting i feel like i feel like uh maury povich you are not the [ __ ] have you seen that show oh yeah maureen okay that's always my go-to anytime i would stay home from school i would sit there and secretly watch mori my mom hated it she would want me to watch nick jr and then as soon as she would leave the room i would turn it to like channel four i think that was fan of the drama since day one i loved it yeah that was the original but they delivered every time too they started getting crazier and crazier though for the views at the very end it was just some nutty stuff but anyway uh this episode we're going to be confronting jack's girlfriend [Laughter] someone should like i feel like either one of you two should introduce each other each other okay okay all right i can introduce you and even let me finish confronting jack's girlfriend's boyfriend yeah i just got introduced yeah all right well i'm taylor again i was on i was a 27th ever episode guest um and this is my boyfriend alex welcome yeah that's me i can go through the process of leading up to this if you want yes please do please do okay so so basically when i was first uh on this podcast the 27th ever episode um graham sent me a dm because he noticed one of my comments on his video and he asked me if i wanted to come on to the podcast and be a blind date for jack a blind tinder date you know i'm a subscriber i've actually never downloaded but that's okay um and sorry um and i agreed of course and i brought it to alex i said it's just what did you think oh you you just sent me the dm then like i've watched you for many years so like oh wow graham what does he want what does he want but at the same time you know when uh when someone's sliding into your girlfriend's dms it kind of triggers like a fight or flight response immediately so i started like okay what does he want and then i saw a blind date and so immediately i was like oh okay are you are you gonna what's what's going on here right um but then uh yeah you you said no no it's probably just a concert for the show and i was like oh yeah that of course that that makes total sense yeah because i figured you would have asked me if i was single if it was anything more so that's that's where we arrived huh yeah yeah so when i went into that i just kind of assumed i figured if it was like uh if you weren't single you would say something so we went in yeah all the scenarios yeah right no but actually that was what ultimately pushed me over the edge because i was like i mean surely he would ask if you were single if it was actually like a blind date and like i i'd seen some episodes of the show and i was like yeah it's probably just going to be some some quality click bait and uh yeah that was my thought yeah see my my investigation ended i think i just whatever instagram profile you linked on your page yeah that was what i just quickly did this it was like all right there we go i think we're safe and then i brought up the data aspect and i think well between the two you got two chances no pictures on that instagram profile and then just throw it out there so i figured between the two that's fair because my my private instagram is private okay you wouldn't have found it yeah yeah yeah so i don't know we talked about it and i figured i don't know i figured it was a concept for the show so jack is a worthy adversary yeah yeah no that's why i dressed up so you know i have something to prove well i hope people are nice what i thought we would do and i didn't want to tell either of you guys until right now but like actually like just fighting it out like jake paul just like a jake paul right here right now yeah yeah sure i'm kidding i'm kidding so how did you guys meet uh do you wanna yeah we met first day of college at penn and uh we were in the same class called management 100 it's like all wharton kids have to take it it's like a fake consulting class you're put in teams of 10 and then you are given like um a business in philly or like a club on campus and they come to you for consulting help and you help them with their marketing and that kind of stuff it's fake but i don't know it's a cool class i guess but we were on the same team so we met first week of college we were friends for a while and then yeah and she couldn't stop staring at me that's not true you were staring at me so who asked to uh you asked us taylor around or how did this work yeah i don't know it was pretty organic kind of organic yeah because this was a few years ago so pre me too i had uh two tickets to uh louis ck and uh i don't even know if i asked you explicitly you kind of invited yourself i did not invite myself i don't know maybe i don't know it's so long ago i know it's been it's been a minute but yeah no we were just friends so it kind of worked out organically yeah there was no like romantic climax this is uh [Applause] so you guys were in the same class together and did you guys sorry did you guys have a project together yeah kind of because we were on the same like consulting team so we were given it's like this it's interesting but yeah i mean they stopped doing it now but it's kind of like this pretentious thing where immediately once you start as a freshman you act as like a group of consultants for a non-profit on campus which sounds a lot cooler than it actually is and like everyone pretty much hated that class yeah so how many how many years ago is this or was it yeah wow and so what's the plan because you're planning to go to new york yes so what's what's going to happen with that so you work he works out of boston okay so work from home now though work from i mean he's yeah he's with me right now in l.a but once it's not work from home anymore i'll be in new york he'll be in boston got it it's not that far it's kind of hard are you guys living together now yeah yeah yeah peace with me and my parents right now okay yeah in my bedroom how how does that work uh they get along that's because everyone i talk to they're like oh how are you getting along with your in-laws like essentially um and that just works amazing yeah any complaints it works great yeah because you're i don't know he's very chill he's easy like he's not thank you you know but like he's not like uh a nuisance in the house i mean i'm very biased but i think my parents feel the same unloads a dishwasher he's helpful around the house but he works like 14 hours a day i am the dishwasher man so you work from home yes 14 hours in your bedroom okay corner of her body corner off got it i have my rona ranks set up with a bunch of monitors yeah how do you bring that up to your parents like hey we're going to kind of move in here well i so he yeah part of this i just did yeah i know the part of the reason is part of the reason is because i mean he's from sweden yeah so you wanted to go home for a little while to work but with travel restrictions it would be kind of tough for you to get back in um so it just kind of happened i actually didn't really ask them yeah he just came home after graduation with me planning to stay for a few weeks i guess and then figure it out um but you couldn't really go home to sweden and new york would have been kind of weird for you to i don't know you explained yeah i mean i mean that's it pretty much i mean i mean because i guess it's work from home everywhere so like the alternative is either i'm gonna work by myself in a studio in boston just not seeing anyone or like at her place and at least see one person so how long has that been for eight months seven months um since may since the end of day yeah okay yeah since we graduated got it and you do the chores yeah you help her out yeah yeah yeah i tried i tried to uh under promise and i would deliver i mean he offered to pay rent and stuff my parents went okay yeah but yeah kind of interesting set up not most people have that but yeah yeah no i'm gonna have your parents on next oh that's that's gonna be that's gonna be the next thing confronting jack's we should have your mom on it's the yeah oh my god that would actually be interesting she's a very interesting character she is yeah i told you guys a little bit yeah did she did she retired at 35 35 yeah yeah so how funny would that be if we actually get around the podcast yeah we're getting a little ahead of him a little bit yeah all right i mean let's talk let's talk about your parents what did they think about this whole thing yeah did you tell them about it and the concept of it oh me coming on the show in the first place yeah my mom we like i said we talked about all the scenarios like if it actually was meant to be more than a date like a yeah what was that for the show what was your plan for that if it what happened i don't know like what actually happened was my plan if it were yeah like if you were to actually ask me out i would be like oh i actually have a boyfriend but um that that was my plan i didn't think it would i thought i genuinely thought whether people believe me or not i thought it was a concept for the show or at least i was convinced to think that so uh yeah i don't know if that answers your question that was my plan yeah sorry andrew what what are your parents oh yes yeah um they thought the same i mean my dad is protective so he just wanted to make sure you guys were like normal cool stranger yeah exactly um but i showed them your channel yeah they're interesting um and then my mom thought the same as me she said oh that'd be awesome um kind of agreed she probably thought it was concept for the show but you're right now that you say that because you didn't see my private instagram but yeah that was my thought process but they were cool with it yeah yeah and you were on board the the entire way were you ever apprehensive i mean in the beginning i was yeah um because i was like am i really embarking on this path i don't think you can put that on the channel but yeah yeah we could you could bleep that out yeah yeah um yeah no i mean at first i was like oh are you sure you're gonna go through with this but like then i thought about it more and more and actually it it just seemed like it would be again for the show and um i really thought that like you would have asked if she was single if it was actually real because yeah i mean because you don't want to be put in a situation where someone asks you something and then you're the one oh sorry i have a boyfriend that's the whole thing i didn't want to be presumptuous that might sound stupid to you guys i don't know i don't know and but maybe this is like maybe it's a guy thing i don't know yeah a lot of guys get instinctually moving close to the mic yeah um no a lot of guys they uh they don't like when girls are being presumptuous when they try to be nice even if they're flirting yeah have you exp experienced that i haven't but maybe i'm just i don't really so i was like okay do i i and i asked you this too i said should i tell grandma by the way i have a boyfriend or is that being presumptuous because i don't know if he's assuming i don't or not yeah like all these thoughts it was a very thought out process yeah which might sound weird i don't want people to think that i i don't want to just went on to catfish jack yeah i really didn't that was not my intention yeah so to clear the air yeah basically what happened was she came over we filmed the podcast i hadn't talked to her we hadn't i really have exchanged very few words with her before we started filming yeah then we finished and then graham was like he told me he said i was trying to win okay so we actually let's let's go into the details here okay so before you came over graham said this he said okay we're going to come up with a code word if you want to go to dinner with her afterwards porcupine no what was it well do you remember the go-to yeah so it was um you should have done like a sign yeah it was uh do you want to download the footage tonight that was that was the code okay so we always say that though every night yeah so it's night or tomorrow yeah so he told me he's like okay so i'm going to ask you this and if you say yes that means you want to go like to dinner with her or whatever and if you say no that means that you don't what'd you say he didn't ask me you ended up not even asking no we spent like five ten minutes agreeing that that was going to be the code word i forget and you didn't even use it i forget you didn't you literally just you just you left and then you and then you're like okay go go ask her out and you left and then i don't know that was it that's what i was on the phone by the way i wouldn't be offended if you didn't if the answer was no oh no it's okay okay um so you were in the bathroom told me that he said okay now is your like your chance now's the time exactly so he's like okay so i'm gonna go over and like talk with macy okay and then he leaves and i'm just standing here at this table and i'm kind of just like twiddling my thumbs right we talked for a few minutes we talked for a few minutes but i knew it was so hard to to muster up that courage but it's okay it's okay and i said so would you like to go to dinner and then you said okay uh i have a boyfriend and this is after we filmed the entire podcast episode and uh and obviously like i was i was like okay that's totally fine yeah like i was very very shocked and i laughed because i thought it was just funny like the whole situation was just it is hilarious i thought you seemed relieved that's the vibe i got because jack didn't want to pay for dinner that's a good time no no no not that at all like it was i was maybe a little bit relieved because it was just like less stressful yeah you said you're nervous i was nervous too i was so nervous yeah i was really nervous yeah and uh that was basically what happened i said you want to go to dinner and then she said she said i have a boyfriend and then i just i laughed and i was like you didn't laugh i didn't you know you did oh so that was it i just laughed and i was like that's totally okay i was like that's that's totally fine like i'm so sorry oh my god no i mean i'm sorry i felt bad afterwards yeah no taylor came back and she was like i was rattling they actually thought that you know that they might have thought it was an actual blind date like yeah she was like down for several days after oh actually i thought you were oh yeah i thought you weren't going to air the episode after that no no it was it was a good episode it was but yeah i went into it thinking like we're actually going to get like a blind date it might not be a tinder date but like close enough yeah you know yeah yeah well i mean i don't i can't see you having problems getting a date it's so hard for you i'm not just saying that like you you need to tell me you go on tinder and you don't get a date well i mean i i like people will match with me but i just like i i just don't i don't know maybe i don't follow through but i'm just kind of sick of like on the dating apps a lot of the times like you have a lot of conversation with someone and then they kind of just like leave out of nowhere and i got so tired of that happening over and over and over again yeah that i would just like i would send a paragraph i'm like hey look like i'm just like i'm new to the area like i'm just looking to meet people like even if nothing comes out of it yeah like let's just like meet up go get some food we could go for a walk by the beach or whatever and it's i think that it's just like definitely has a lower success rate if you don't talk to them beforehand but i also don't really want to waste my time like right okay that's you know i know it's a better way to put it but like yeah that happened so many times where i just felt like i was wasting my time yeah opportunity costs yeah it was just it was exactly yeah you might as well make videos yeah yeah because nothing usually came out of those right so that makes sense and i think now it definitely drastically lowered my chances of actually seeing anyone like that what no but by like shortening it up and just saying something like the paragraph because i don't know this guy you can't do that no i know i shouldn't do it yeah now you just do this 3 am you up texas no i definitely do like man it's like you're just spoiling the end of a movie that's what it is no it's not yes it is i would way rather get to know them in person then you just you just sending a text saying hey new to the area want to meet up take a walk in the beach that is you essentially spoiling the end of the movie how what does that even mean because you're you're not building up to anything ideally what there should be is some sort of conversation they need to fill you out a little bit see what your personality's like see how can i assure you but you know your text you can it's just in the way that you convey messages to this channel no i could i would never i would never yeah no really it's it's you need to to i don't want to say entice them in such a way but you you have to warm things up a little bit and that's only done through conversation you if you were just i guaranteed half the people you were just going to say hey let's go meet up on the beach i don't say that yeah i know i know but if you started off small you build off of something you have some back and forth and then after like a day you go and ask something like that you're gonna have a much higher success rate let me rephrase it's not my first message like i exchanged two three messages but then i'm just over it like every single conversation is the same hey how are you what are you up to today that's it and then it's like where do you go from there so you know what i mean like i feel like it's so much easier to get to know someone in person than it is over text because what changes up a text conversation nothing it's just wherever you take it right whereas if you meet someone in person like there's so much more to to talk about so much more to do whereas the text conversation is just purely upon the the letters that you write right you don't even know it's true so what do you guys think about this yeah no you got it what is your i honestly what is your name alex we're gonna have to go back i mean in person i said this is alex when we walked in but you were busy doing something this would be an editing job for you okay let's see alex up here yeah what do you think about this i mean you've been on tinder so yeah explain no but you gotta you gotta make sure your first message is kind of like a like a thumbnail for a video yeah yeah that's a good way you can't use analogy you can't just give away all these are so stressful dude like i'm not suck man they do know you spend so much time on thumbnails you guys do yeah in a good way but like you still have you know you have to you have to entice them say something like uh there are five secrets that the government doesn't want you to know and they'll be like oh wow like i don't i don't know yeah uh but i know what you're saying like it's kind of like the storytelling too i think about this a lot on my channel is like don't just drop the bomb at first not that you are dropping bombs in the beginning but lead up to it somehow but i also know what you're saying because if it that leads to like a dead so many times and it feels like a waste of time i get that but you know what i feel like you might be getting to a sticking point like you get to a certain point and then let's say five steps in then it drops off i i'd say your time would be best spent improving that fifth step wherever that is you see the drop off that's the point to spend your time you have to have like a straight line system like drawing yeah but for tender yeah okay like for videos like this is difficult okay i'm being completely honest i'm trying okay i need like a representation of this so if you or you or you anyone were to strike up conversation with someone else via text text is different than in person yes so i would usually just say hey how are you yeah what do you like what are you doing today like um no because because that doesn't convey any that doesn't show any personality um say something funny yeah yeah like open with a little i'm not a joke necessarily but like a cheeky what up mama no all right i don't know i mean anything that might work yeah you can see their photos right yeah well of course yeah you can see their photos make some pick something out of their photo and maybe make a cheeky comment about yeah i don't know their dog you're a cute dog i think like 95 of people who use tinder anyway are just doing it for validation so i don't know just going with a should i be on like a harmony instead or something no i'm only 22. dude farmers only farmers only exactly i was going to say well no locals started a bunch of like luxurious dating websites back in the day maybe some of those are still i don't think i'm there yet yeah but really quick we have a word from our sponsor nordvpn nordvpn provides a virtual private network or vpn service to protect your data when you're online now this is the way that your internet probably currently works you type something into your connected device that information goes to your local net aka router it then exits and then goes to the internet it's then directed to the server of the website that you requested information from and finally it gets sent back to your computer some of these channels that the information travels through can 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me right check out nordvpn's two-year plan to get four months free with their christmas sale and with that said you guys back to the podcast let's say alex yes you saw taylor on a dating website um okay and you saw her profile it's not so much like match.com but he said dating website on a dating network yeah what would you what would you send to her without knowing me take your time think this through because like you would have time honestly i think most of it just comes down to like pure numbers like like it's a numbers game yeah yeah so like there's no way like an individual girl is you know you can't be sure that she's gonna wanna even respond because a lot of girls especially are like i said they're on for validation so like they have no intention of doing it but like who doesn't feel good just like going on this app and see oh wow all these guys think i'm so pretty um so i would just uh not overthink it and just like realize she's probably gonna say no are you telling him to swipe right on everybody no uh numbers maybe i don't know you know what it was gonna thought this through funny story time but a buddy of mine uh he anthony if you're watching this i'm gonna mention you here um uh was on tinder and wasn't getting many matches so he's just like what if i just change my profile to be a girl and let's just see what i get the number of matches was insane it was to the point where his phone was like overheating and shutting down oh my god because of how many matches he was getting and then uh i don't know if i want to say this but um [Music] we saw we saw girls on tinder putting their venmo uh-huh so people could send them money so i said to him what if you just put your venmo and we could see how much money you make and he made money oh my goodness are you gonna you need to i need to make a video confronting a scammer man no because he got so many matches something happened yeah i think he was swiping too much or something happened but he actually got his account taken down gotcha yeah before you was it on the podcast with andre where you talked about before macy of course you were on tinder and didn't you like edit a little blue thing gosh yeah yeah for the super like thing yeah yeah the thumbnail that's all it is like picture here's another tip from uh teron alex tinder consulting llc free of charge um you have to look from the perspective of the girls that are swiping on you and if you see girls swiping on tinder it looks like this they're all swiping left and most guys have like low resolution pictures so having just a high resolution picture will make girls go oh wow something different let's at least look at what this man has to offer and not just swipe left immediately yeah you know what would be so much better is if if it tinder allowed for video just a five second like hey what's up don't don't don't smoke hey my name's graham sorry something like that would be really cool clickbaity yeah if any tinder people are watching this try that that would be in it imagine if someone started that up of just video just five second be good that would be good yeah pitch it yeah cut this out and pitch it to them that would be a good idea no i'll i'll leave it up if if anyone gets rich off this just just give me like ten percent give him something give me something give me five percent of it yeah that would be a great idea i've just you swipe on like little videos yeah like a little tick tock thing yeah that would be cool or gifts have you ever considered doing like um podcast highlights yeah yeah we thought about it uh we're too small for that right now once we get 100 000 subscribers we will jr eclipse that's all i watch yeah we have a tick tock though all day long we have an iced coffee hour tick tock where we take clips and uh those are doing well on tick tock shout out to aiden he edits those yeah thank you uh but those are doing really well but youtube i think it's too early to start doing that oh so what are you doing i'm not on tick tock the iced coffee hour they take clips like this put them in 60 seconds and then just repost them to tick tock like like the best 60 second clip of of whatever we're talking about uh and then my own personally is [Music] random my friend saw the one of me uh and send it to me i think i told you oh they'll take thoughts yeah oh wow yeah some of these some of these got a lot of views what's that one like five hundred thousand views a couple of them about like half a million yeah oh wow some people like that i know too they've discovered me from tick tock not from youtube like from the iced coffee hour i'm not saying that this channel is like super big or anything but like i would have expected if they would have found me from tech hockey it would be from this youtube right yeah yeah huh interesting interesting oh that's a question i was going to ask you i'm doing nowadays yeah would you um i'm sure you've had girls reach out like via youtube in the comments like trying to go on a date on occasion but i think that there's a weird dynamic to those relationships if they reach out like oh i see we mean you know what i mean reaching out for perhaps the wrong reason no no just that like they know me you know or they know of me oh and you don't know that yeah it's just like an odd dynamic why so what they're interested in the same things as you true i mean i like i felt like i knew you guys you didn't know yet but when i saw you it was so weird because i felt like i knew you yeah yeah and it was so weird because like i introduced myself and you said oh hi graham and it like intuitively it felt like wait what's up you guys it's graham here yeah yeah you know what you said it's like yeah we know each other yeah like wait what are we doing here yeah yeah i felt the same way that's how i felt with other people i met from youtube and even some of my like now i would consider like my best friends i've met from youtube uh like jeremy financial education is one of those guys uh we talked online for like a year maybe a year and a half before meeting yeah and then meeting in person like the first minute was awkward because it's like i'm so used to seeing him just on a little screen and now like oh he's he's tall way taller than i expected but after like a minute it was just like we're best friends yeah after that right same with a lot of these people that i that i've met from youtube is just you you instantly hit it off because you already know each other so you could cut all the stuff so jack i think that's that's the way you should look at it it's like you're getting people who already know what you're about they're interested in the same topics and you could weed out everybody who's not interested in that it's it's it's probably the the most efficient way you could go about doing this if you're talking about efficiency not wasting time we have a very low demographic of women 15 20 you can't tell me at a 20 there's not the perfect person out there who's watching the podcast right now and be like jack i'm next yeah how many subscribers 60 000. 69. is it actually 69 wow yeah yeah yeah that 169 420 kind of yeah yeah but seriously that that's gotta be like 12 000 women at that point not to mention and those are only the ones who subscribed yeah what about dms on instagram you must get slid into it happens definitely it happens like on occasion yeah you respond sometimes not usually no why not because i mean i'm sitting here and you're i mean you have 12 000 girls looking up to you okay i don't know how many guys back home might be like thousands of girls that is over i hate that very large overstatement but you have some some yeah yeah even if it's one percent of that all i'm saying is this is they're in they're into the same stuff they know what you're about they already know your personality you've already talked about yourself here so now yeah maybe i will be open to it all right cool close that off good yes nice okay you gotta put up your instagram right now jls selby jls selfie thanks graham what's the ls part my middle name and my last name oh jls selby okay yeah yeah what's your middle name lloyd lloyd yeah wait why is there two s's j l s selby yeah yeah i honestly don't know why it has two s's maybe it was taken or something but that's just what i've rolled with since i was a kid jls [Music] i know gp stefan right like yeah g stefan there was i think it was taken g stefan was taken so i had to do g gps stefan you should you know we should have matching arms you should change yours to gps stephanie that would be something how much would it be to like buy a domain name expenses instagram depends what you want to buy so i've seen some where they have this hack where people who know someone else at like instagram apparently what some of these people do is they'll pay like five to ten thousand dollars and in if an account hadn't posted in like three to four years instagram allegedly has the power to go in and take that username from them if it's an inactive account of like a few years so you have to know someone on instagram to be able to do that and they'll charge a few grand to like 10 grand to do that i've also seen some people sell usernames i think someone tried to sell me gram and it was like 20 grand and i figured there's no way i'm paying 20 000 for gram and then the person who took the username graham sent me a dm let's let's see if i can send the dm because i asked them how much they paid for that and i think they paid more than what i was offered which is crazy but they should have paid for it honestly did they do that it sounded like they were trying to flip your name like you would a house yeah oh yeah you're curious so yeah sorry so it was twenty thousand dollars the username that was it but that's it uh he has the account uh cowbelly yeah graham what honestly 20 000 i don't know about names or anything but i feel like just having to handle graham is pretty powerful that's a good name yes there's a price to that like i wouldn't mind paying like five grand how much would you pay for just well jack for jack i think jack is different than the greatest is like the most common name yeah yeah what would you pay for graham i would not pay not nearly as much as i probably should well my name was graham yeah what would you what would you pay what would you want me if my name was grant yes in my situation what would you tell my money my situation how much should i pay for graham i would have paid 20 000 you really would have yeah i think why just having to handle gram especially on instagram i know for a fact that instagram is continuing to grow and like i just think that having a handle like that is just like crazy especially since like now people are like having absurd handles because everything's been taken yeah that's true in the grand scheme of things too like 20k to be like as soon as someone searches for graham yeah yeah i don't know just like seo maybe you dropped the ball but but no but it still comes up when you type in gram it's a cf7 gram s um the other thing was that i've just been advertising gp stefan for such a long time on like hundreds of videos that i was worried switching to graham like what would that do to all my past videos but it would be really cool to say like add me on instagram gram yeah yeah like that would be really cool i would pay maybe like 10 for it what so it went up a little bit five times yeah it went up you gotta buy it before this airs yeah they're gonna price gouge you yeah no the guy's already bought it yeah but you can buy it again yeah yeah but he already knows my offer is tent so if he wants to get it back someone else jack i mean i don't know we have we could do what's in your wallet segment oh yeah let's see let's see yeah let's do what's in your wallet um let me grab my phone i don't care about it look like guys oh yeah can we just straight up like look through your stuff yeah all right cool let me just let me just make sure no no no you're gonna like this no you can't look through it okay you can't look through that's that's more than that should i tell my health insurance no that's actually kind of funny no it's fine so i got your wallet do you see how used that is yeah i do this is my wallet all right let's see i'm frugal oh wow and then all of this health insurance and then like all right so where should we start so your wallet is uh in the back of your phone yes that's really neat and what do we got here we got uh emergency emergency card in case that's smart yeah so i don't have that i don't think you have to but yeah it's good to have a guess on that that's cool my mom's like yeah if you're ever in an emergency you can be like emergency card okay we got a bed like a bank of america cash rewards card that's a good credit card i have that one too cool health card okay yeah oh i hate this one i hate wells fargo no i can't stand them sorry and then uh id okay i should get it we're not expired oh yeah mine's expired your ideas yeah really yeah that's not good yeah dmv has been closed all right so what's this so we got yeah that's a very worn wallet how long have you had this for five years that's i think yeah that's a pen wallet right yeah it's a pen wallet did you get it for free yes it was actually given to me how many cards do you have in here uh i mean they're not credit cards can i can i oh [ __ ] okay let's see it's a big fat stack cards oh i mean no no that's just because i haven't thrown them all away you still have your okay yeah i haven't seen your cards it's good actually to have your student id in some cases oh my god so how many access cards do you have a starbucks what's that karen hates you now oh a gift card exactly yeah we should use it i think i signed up for like dashlane or something all right all right so we got a starbucks card a lot a lot of student ids mcdonald's gift card that's pretty good oh you have one of these a tile those things are good that's smart i bought that for saying like you can just go into a store and get a new one for free or something but i just didn't do it yeah we approve of the wallets yeah thanks thank you guys not bad you were asking me though to switch topics here for a second about the two dollar bills yes so who was it was it was it ryan pinita i can't remember it's either i saw it on tick tock or i saw or ryan pinit was telling me about this of uh going to the bank and getting two dollar bills and it makes you very memorable anytime you're gonna tip with a two dollar bill they'll never forget you or if you just have two dollar bills you happen to pay in two dollar bills it's you could go to the bank you get these at face value so i went to the bank five hundred dollars with the two dollar bills jack took 200 of it so i got 300 and two dollar bills and they're just cool like you came in here and you thought like what i thought they were right so it's just it's cool it's a it's a really interesting talking piece that's free you just go to the bank you ask them for two dollar bills you get a whole bunch and they look cool like this and that's it and just tip people with two dollar bills graham and i were at the bank when he was getting these and i heard him ask like the teller if he can have any two dollar bills so i got out of the church cooking i ran over and i was like can i get a couple as well yeah and he was like yeah sure and then she was like all right how many do you want and he's like um 500 worth a thousand dollars worth and uh and i was like oh my god i thought you were gonna get like 10. no gosh now you go big what i ask is how many do you have yeah you literally asked that yeah yeah and she's like we have as many as you want yeah so that made me feel so good i have as many as i want yeah yeah you were out so i think i said a thousand i think i know you said 500 and then i said can i get a couple and i heard you say oh i want 500 and then i ran over and i said like oh can i have someone you like make it a thousand and i was like oh my god i don't need 252 bills but you never know but here's the thing it's it's uh it's cash so if you need to take it back to the bank you can get a thousand bucks it's cool play around with it a little bit put it back in the bank yeah think of all the thumbnails we could do with this two dollar bills so anyway i i think it's neat i would recommend everyone go to the bank get two dollar bills like this it's neat it's cool it's a fun talking piece if you tip anybody with a two dollar bill they're never gonna forget you true and i and i agree with that so that's my two dollar bill story everyone should go to yeah my two dollars yeah you guys is there anything that you guys want to talk about for retail anything you want to clear the air anything like that clear the air [ __ ] ask any questions talk to the viewers about of course my channel you know i've already i mean again thank you guys so much for having me on the first time i've seen so much growth it's crazy it's really cool it's gonna happen at some point yeah thank you um that's been awesome yeah what is it like for you to meet jack uh oh i was sizing him up the very first moment i walked into the door um yeah no it's fine what was the overall like reaction like really i mean obviously i know that like you got some subscribers and views and stuff but like what about like like dms comments like i didn't really go through like reading any comments or anything no of course uh very positive overwhelmingly positive i thought that because i missed questions on the quiz people would like come for me if you did but like uh in a couple things that i overthought like on my way home after the podcast i was like people are gonna you know whatever but it was so positive people were so nice about i don't know they said nice things and like said i seemed like i knew you guys beforehand and it seemed like we were just friends talking so um and a lot of new subscribers but also ones on my latest video that said like you know graham brought me here you kept me here which like is the nicest compliment i feel like i could have received because i figured i would lose subscribers after i started reposting i mean posting my my normal content but it's still growing yeah and everyone's so nice and some constructive criticism that i've taken um to heart like really nice stuff though and then you know a couple dm's that whatever i'm gonna get anyway but i was also surprised at like how positive ever like i was ready to roll up my sleeves yeah getting back at the internet everyone everyone watches the channel is so positive yeah everyone is and they're very supportive so thank you guys yeah thank you best fans yes no but that's true is that people that came to my channel from here they're like your biggest fans and i mean the creme de la creme yes and what about the negative ones it got a few um someone told me i dishonored wharton by missing a couple questions uh which is what i felt like too but what else did i get i got a couple um um didn't i didn't i want to like buy your used underwear whoa why are you serious yeah yeah are you serious yeah can we get it can we see the dm it was actually on poshmark even your cousin reached out to me on poshmark um oh malaya mm-hmm oh yeah i got people like because i sell on poshmark people came and looked at my closet and yeah and wrote like oh you're such a i don't know yeah you represent the community well nice things you know but yeah someone did ask me like how much for your used panties wow i will say it before the podcast i've gotten i mean i mean that wasn't someone necessarily from the gym yeah no we're thinking like actually negative ones there were a few um i don't um i mean for some of them it's like hard to it's kind of hard because like they might mean well but like the tone and the comment just comes off super off like they can start off like i don't mean to be uh like offensive and then they have like and they're being super offensive yeah even though there's like a grain of truth right right like i don't know we've also talked about like yeah at what point does constructive criticism like turn into just a troll right and it's like a person it's very hard to just like dismissively say oh that's just a troll because uh that person was a troll we hate him yeah but no overwhelmingly positive good yeah well thank you guys thank you guys yeah thanks thanks to all the subscribers now don't thank me since you guys watching yeah of course of course yeah of course yeah yeah but i guess thank you for being a positive role model because that's part of the reason that you got my subscribers thank you for sure actually that sounds making me look good yeah so that's true yeah yeah do you guys have any other things you want to talk about i guess worrying about getting hate because i know some people won't believe that i my intention was not to like catfish you or anything which it wasn't but i get how people won't believe that yeah i mean looking back like it might seem obvious but like at the time like we genuinely i thought it was a funny thing it was just like a concert for the show and again like after after she she came home and realized that like you know maybe it wasn't like i thought you hated me i thought you had you do things for real on the channel you hated it because one oh she did she hates me i thought graham was disappointed because you were trying to wingman your friend which was very nice well i was a little bit disappointed yeah i won't lie trying to wingman jack yeah we do things for real on the channel so we don't stay with you no no nothing is staged nothing you ever see a stage well now i know but yeah but i felt i just please believe i felt really bad because when i got home i mean i really was i was rattled my mom's like how did it go well all of you guys were like how'd it go i said i don't know like i felt like the conversation was good but then at the end it was spoiled because i anyway i don't need to go over that but um what was i talking about yeah no i thought you hated me no no because one when i said when i hadn't said i had a boyfriend you seemed relieved which is fine like i didn't feel offended that you seemed relieved but i thought you didn't want to like i was only really like in that moment it was a really stressful situation for me yeah like no i i was i was not upset i actually wish that we were just filming during that moment i got that and then like definitely like i was relieved because it was such a stressful and like an intense thing for me to do and then like afterwards i was like oh i don't even have to worry about it anymore right you know and then like i feel like a couple days later i was kind of like i like i was a little more iffy on it like i was like oh that is like a little weird or whatever like definitely made me feel a little off but then like a few days after that then i was just like oh like whatever like i i see where you're coming from and i understand that like if someone like graham reached out to me and i had you know hadn't known him or whatever um i would definitely like i could see where you're coming from how you responded that i thought it would be presumptuous for me to say like yeah yeah of course like which might sound stupid to you but that really is no i i totally understand it so i don't know yeah it's anyway like for those no like for those who are listening like this is a weird thing to say but i can't really for me personally it's difficult for me to catch feelings for someone with but i only have known them for like what was that like an hour yeah on camera too so that was that was not me like expressing the fact that like i like you or anything it was me more so just thinking like i would i would be okay like getting to know you and seeing you know what i mean yep 100 and that's the other thing too if we have a date on the show there is going to be that pressure jack what happened how'd the day go how did they go oh you guys aren't seeing each other anymore what happened tell us tell us you get a bit of that too yeah how did how did you feel about that getting all those comments because i still see him uh okay so like it has to go with everything is so weird so like all those comments and everything like how is it with taylor whatever for the most part i would say like uh there's like a video coming soon all right like that's good that's a good response find out or whatever i would say like oh for a couple i said like there have been developments because i didn't know yeah i never have i basically said i didn't say the same but i use this emoji all the time like the um right like how's it going with jack the shrug exactly i have a shortcut in my phone when i write shrug anyway it does this one yeah i've been responding that to people to like keep the fun going because they seem invested and you were i mean you agree just keep the secret going or not the secret but that sounds stupid you know what i mean yeah you don't want to be the bearer of bad news then okay for alex yeah did that i i i feel like if i was in your position i would feel like a little bit weird because obviously like your girlfriend is handcuffed like there's nothing that she could really do and then like you're kind of just like you know alongside her while people are asking that about like a different man yeah yeah and you don't want to step in and be like no you're going to do this you guard her shut up shut up guys just dislike all of this yeah yeah no that's what i do no i don't care i don't know you're pretty confident in our no go ahead um yeah no no i i yeah i don't i don't know i don't take it to uh did it hard for you at all not really um should it have maybe yeah i don't know it's just like random people on the internet i don't it's a testament to the strength yeah my mental fortitude that's been a while you and me like we've been dating for a while if a comment like that would break us up that's that's saying something oh yeah i mean i can see why why would no way but people yeah but um yeah no i mean it's just like random people on the internet respect yeah so anything else you want to say you got you got one camera there here's a we'll wrap up here anything else you want to say to the audience right there in that camera i just want to say thank you for having me on the podcast and clearly let us uh clear the air yeah and i hope i was close enough to the mic i feel like you're gonna have to cut like half of what i said out no but uh yeah yeah but thank you the people that went over to taylor's channel were awesome like overwhelmingly awesome i was so surprised me too oh i wasn't surprised because no i was yeah yeah um yeah yeah thank you guys for watching thank you guys again for having me on um yeah and for people that came over to my channel again thank you for being so positive i really appreciate it it actually means so much i yeah i've gone on and on about my channel or on my channel saying how nice everyone was so thank you yeah comment like subscribe subscribe to taylor's channel thank you and um get your four free stocks down below in the description i don't know if the offer is going to be expiring if you if you click on the link and you still see the offer there get it because they told me it was going to end like any day now but they've kept it going now past november 30th so if you get it if you see it down below in the description just get that offer immediately weeble weeble yeah so four free stocks four free stocks or three songs it was three before yeah it was three now it was two it was two before that yeah for a while it was one they keep pumping it but i think they gotta go back down they can't continue to afford this sort of level of money it's expensive people are getting like 20 bucks now worth of free stock so just get it down below in the description thank you so much for watching and until next time okay and then how much is the podcast made yeah i'm pretty sleep deprived so i don't know if i can remember all this you're good you got it oh was it 22 22 now that keeps 919. you're going to be looking in that camera that one is just on you guys this is on all of us and this is just done so ignore that i was gonna do something like that yeah yeah so cool okay uh i'm gonna screw this up it's fine uh