City of Santa Rosa Art in Public Places Meeting - August 3, 2026

a step forward in healing, peace, and justice for Andy and for everyone that continues to remember him. >> Thank you so much for your time and for considering this um this request. Uh I recall that um Art Start made artwork um under the direction of Mario Uribe. Is this >> I believe Okay. >> Different because you had there's a few there's the other one where um Andy Lopez fading >> those >> but then that one that she has is different from that. We can't have discussion but I'm going to follow up with Raphael on this to understand who the artist is and moving forward. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Yeah. I look forward to following So, she just wants to briefly say that what she's sharing is pictures of when she went recently to ArtStart and the mural is not in store properly. It is on the floor. >> Oh, no. Gracias. Thank you. Okay. Um, are there any other comments or presentations from the public? >> Just I guess an introduction. Uh, so hi everyone. My name is Roman and I'm a Sonoma County artist uh based off of Santa Rosa. And um the reason I'm here is well I was invited but I also believe that art can have a strong impact in the community. Uh right now I'm currently working on uh a mural that's um being done in Andy Lopez Unity Park where I'm painting uh seven major stone structures that um are paying respect to and related to Andy Lopez but it's also uh paying respect to heritage and it's a a historical and familyfriendly piece as well. And um uh the reason I started painting uh for the public is my goal was always to like uh beautify areas that needed tending to. And um what I've seen in this particular project that I'm doing right now is I've seen uh uh uh youth volunteers uh helping me out with the project. Uh uh people local people in the community coming together to help clean the park. And most importantly, I've seen uh push back against uh graffiti and vandalism. So, um what I want to do today is uh offer up my put my paintbrush um on the table and offer my skills as an artist if there's any like project or collaboration or opinion needed about art or anything. Uh that's like mainly why I'm here. but also because I believe in the impact of art. I also believe that the Andy Lopez mural should be moved uh to the library as well so that when it is on display it could continue to have a similar impact as well. >> Great. Thank you. Thank you very much. >> Does Meredith have your contact info? >> Oh yeah. Just earlier we >> Yes. Great. Thank you. >> Thanks. >> Thank you for being here. That's it. Thank you. >> Okay. >> All right. Very good. Um really appreciate all the public comments. Um we will move on uh to the approval of the minutes. Has everybody read the minutes from the previous meeting which I believe was >> Yeah, that was June. >> Okay. Are there any um additions or changes to the minutes? Okay, then um we can approve the minutes as submitted. Thank you very much. Okay. Um my glasses on here so I can actually read this. Okay, we're up to item number seven, scheduled items. Um, so we have a uh project part proposal recommendation for project by Martin Suma. And so Meredith, do you have a presentation? Oh yeah, this is the part of our project and >> he's been busy on Facebook with it. >> Thank you. Um, so today I'm going to provide a project update of Martineza's butterflies along with um a funding recommendation for you. Um, to review the project again, um, Los Quentes Monarch was a collaborative public art installation with artist Martin Zuniga. Um he's working with Latino uh service providers um providing um 50 monarch butterflies throughout Howorth Park and with number one being at the museum. The goals here were to celebrate and elevate Latino voices and cultural expression. >> To engage local artists, students, and community organizations to activate public spaces through temporary accessible artworks expand public participation. Oops, sorry. I can't Sorry, you can't see it on the screen, but I had something blocking my text. Um, expand participation across diverse communities, engage with the landscape and public space. Um, and emphasis again on scale, repetition, visual impact coincide with the crystal exhibit over at the museum. There we go. So, our team met with our parks and wreck team and walked the trail with Martine. Um, we we noted the areas to place the butterfly uh butterflies, much more than one. Um, and we've received and stamped engineering drawings. So, um, they the plan is to place them along the right side of the trail. Um, some in clusters and some spread out. Um, a lot of this will also be determined on site as we're doing the install with the anchoring um, and location. So, the idea is that um, a lot of they'll park at Howard Park. There'll be signage in front of these and um, they'll be able to walk the the trail with the butterflies intertwined throughout the trees um, along the landscape. APC approved $10,000 in the project funding in April. Um along with that, you did approve $10,000 to Michael McGinness um with SRJC and they are no longer moving forward with that project. Um and not that we won't um move forward with some other type of partnership with them in the future. Um but if we did, that would also require an approval through you. Um and but with that, Michael is assisting with the um with the wood cutting. So, he's very excited about this project as well and has been work working with Martin. Um, I believe they just got a start this week on that. Um, and and so Michael and Martine are actually working together on this. So, the J the SRJC is is assisting with that. Um, that alleviated a lot of the cost um for the wood cutting um for this. However, there's still the the supplies um the stamped engineering said cost etc. Um we have received in the stamped drawings. So, I was able to give Martine um his first portion of the check because that in the contract I had to receive that first in order to start to move forward. Um he did have a um a fundraiser and um donations are being received through Latino service providers. Um however, additional funding is needed to complete this project um because of the cost of the supplies of the wood. Um, so today, um, we are looking to approve a contract amendment of of increasing it to another 10,000 for a total of, um, $20,000, um, to Martin Zuniga for this project. Um, and with that, um, he would be able to purchase the remainder of the wood, um, and and we'd hope for an, um, an end of August, um, September install. >> Great. >> I have a question. All the butterflies are going to be at Howard Park >> except one which would be at the museum. >> Okay, >> great. And um so just to be clear for all of us, so the proposal here is to in it is basically to increase what we had previously improved by 10,000 which is the funding that would have gone to the SRJC project. >> Okay. And this is coming through our arts and parks fund which was at I believe it was 117,000. Um so it's not out of the public art program budget. >> So that arts and parks is very specific to um we can't use it for >> um marketing etc. specific for these parks projects and that fund increases I'd say between 12 to 15,000 every year. It's a slow slow growing fund, but we also have not used it for quite some time. >> Got it. Okay. Yeah, I appreciate that clarification. >> My my question is um you um showed the trail the path and that is the um pave path, correct? >> Okay. Okay. Which is traveled by lots of people. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Families and >> Oh, yes. Lots. especially that specific area. >> We walked it with him a few times. We've walked it with our parks and reccks director. Um we've run it through all different departments. Um and and the idea also is potentially just starting to install as they as they get created and growing this. Um >> and is there going to be some signage? Explain what the Okay. Yeah, we'll be doing A-frames and then also lawn type stake signs in front of each and um depending on donors, we'll be um placing that signage there. We'll do bilingual and then I'll also have a QR code on those going to a project page. >> Okay, wonderful. >> Um do you have a or does Martin have an installation crew already lined up? Because I I'll volunteer my time to help with it if >> I'll let them know. Um yeah, I think Ed's Latino service providers um the kids have really been helping out with this. >> Um they all will be anti-graffiti coded and then they'll also be in charge of monitoring those. So there'll be a lot of um teaching opportunities um I think also with the kids throughout this on public art. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Having worked with Martin previously, he's he's great. He's really great to work with. >> Okay. For my information, >> is there a sunset or when do they expect that these could be taken down? >> In his contract, I believe I have November. Um, we can always amend that. I think we were looking at about a three-month install. Um, it depends with obviously there's fire season, there's high winds, there's weather conditions. Um, I know our team along with parks is happy to amend that um if if we'd like to extend it depending. Um, our original hope was to get them installed beginning of August. Obviously, today's August 3rd. So, um, our our new hope is potentially end of August. We could get these started to be installed there. I'm just curious if there's any thought about potentially bringing these to another park if they're successful in this park and that being a cool kind of like, oh, we'll follow the butterflies. >> I think that's a great um opportunity for sure. So, conversation to be had >> for that. Please let us know. >> Yeah. >> Great. Great. And um is there a um a dedication or um opening event or anything like that? >> There will be once we have the >> I'm just I was wondering if there's already >> Yes. >> Okay. Are there any other questions or comments? Um because we have to take this to a vote. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Um, I would entertain a motion to approve the funding for uh an additional $10,000 to um Martin Zuniga's um monarch project. Actually, insert the Spanish there which oh >> yeah to that project. Do I hear a motion? >> So moved. I make a motion to approve the additional award of $10,000 from arts and parks fund to the contract for laquenta monarch >> and I second. >> All right, it has been moved and seconded. Is there any additional discussion? Okay, no additional uh discussion. Mr. Recording Secretary, we will take a vote. >> Do we want to call public comment before we take a vote? There you go. That's a public comment. Is there any public comment? Thank you for >> What is like I I might have lost like the Was it to like teach like the Aren't they monarchs or something going extinct or something like that? Is that what that was for or >> I I think there is an environmental um educational component to this >> migration. >> Oh yeah, that's right. I was just curious about that. >> Oh, yeah. It's a good question. Yeah, it's I my thing with it was mostly for the migration and the Monarch Fifi and what it stands for. >> Um and um behind it's the movement and show people that's why he was he's doing 15 right now and is that what you it wasif >> 50 and I'll add all of that to the project page as well. >> Are they um like coloring them or are they solid? They're going to be solid wood. All of them. Yeah. All of them are going to look the same. >> Yeah. So on on the project pages on the um >> the website public art website. So um once that's updated um you'll let us all all know. Yeah. Thanks Meredith. >> Okay. Um any other comments or questions? Hearing none, we will now take this to a vote. Jack. >> All righty. Committee member Fentes. >> Yes. >> Chair Nathansson. >> Yes. >> Vice Chair Kefir. >> Yes. >> Committee member Trejo Vasquez. >> Yes. >> Reflect that the motion passes unanimously. >> Great. Thank you all very much. Okay. We are now up to item number 7.2, the temporary art walk. Meredith. >> Right. Um, one second here. Let me pull up my plan. See? Go. All right. Uh, the time has come. I feel like we um just installed the the nine downtown, which I guess we sort of did because it was last October and we're already in August. being a two-year art walk downtown as you know um calls take about a year to um form a selection committee and um do site selection etc. And I believe we briefly um talked about this potentially was in April that this would be coming on the agenda and to start to think about themes. Um you'll see today I'm proposing a theme. It doesn't mean it's set. Um I'd welcome discussion on that. We do, if this is approved, to move forward with another temporary artwalk. Um, that is something that I would like to um solidify today on the theme um so we could start working on some advertising. Um the the temporary art walk um started in 2025 um which was approved in 2024. Um the the goal was to have um more pop-up experiences really downtown for placemaking. Um temporary art can really lend a hand to that where art comes and goes and people have these attachments to it. And so it it leads to more of the the walkability, the creativeness of downtown um and placemaking. So for um 2027 um the artwork proposed would be installed in October. Um, this current art walk is being deinstalled in September 2027. Uh, one of the themes that, um, personally I was brainstorming was more about art history. Um, and I think we may have briefly discussed this, um, a couple months ago as well. Um, the importance of art history and the relation of it to our current works sculpturally, um, painting, etc., of the studying of of famous artists, famous artists in our history or artists that are not known in our history, too. Um, so the city of Santa Rosa public art program invites artists to create original works inspired um by the great masters of art history and um that should be a correction. They should already be created works. Um and so we do um um submissions that are only already created um sculptures. Artists um would be encouraged to interpret the styles of movements, creative legacies that have shaped the art world um through their own unique perspective. So, we'd be seeking up to 10 temporary public artworks um to be installed throughout downtown Santa Rosa and Railroad Square, transforming the area into an engaging open air gallery. Um celebrating the artistic inspiration across generations. Whether it's paying homage to beloved masterpiece um reimagining historic movement um blending classical influence and with contemporary expression, selected works should invite visitors to experience artistic traditions in fresh and unexpected ways. Um, each artist would receive a $5,000 stipent um to exhibit their artwork for the two-year installation. Um, and they receive 3,000 upon installation and then 2,000 after the deinstall. And remember, this year we only had nine. Um, we did open it up to 10. Um, but nine were only ended up being selected. Um, we did have a couple alternates, so that's why I put up to 10. I think it depends on the space really. We don't want art just to fit it somewhere where it doesn't fit. So it would really be the selection committee reviewing and thinking about the locations etc. Um the goals of the art walk here are to foster civic excitement, encourage creativity, make art history accessible. So I could see this as really some learning experiences of um um of with the QR code and learning about the art and then who it was inspired by. um celebrate artistic legacy, transform public spaces, and offer learning experiences. Um eligibility would be US artist teams um 18 or older. Um the locations downtown Santa Rosen Railroad Square exact locations to be matched with art. Um, currently, uh, my hope would be we have, um, a lot of those concrete pads already in place, which would save us a lot of money if we kept those concrete pads in those places. Um, the two artworks in JA don't have concrete pads. Um, wheels go round is a unique one, so those pads would most likely have to be moved. Um, but some of those sites already selected, um, potentially we could always just replace with some more art. Um the responsibilities um here um I would prepare the project plan and call for art um and notify applicants and then manage all of the artist contracts and selection process, approve the artwork locations. Um I'd be looking to put together a selection panel um which would um review the criteria and then bring forth the recommendation to the committee here. Um the APC would approve the project plan and then also approve the final artists and then the selected artists would be um required to submit documentation, do the contract, insurance, etc. Um also they're responsible for the install, deinstall and then any repairs um or graffiti removal if needed. The selection process would be an open competition and um the selection panel members would be two APC members, one city staff and then two members from the art community and this goes through the submission requirements which is up to six artwork, some video if needed because sometimes kinetic works um you'd want to see that. We'd have um a statement on what it's inspired by and their art installation plan, artist resume. The selection process would be um we'd open up the call for art, which we have the cafe program. Um my suggestion is to have that for probably about two months or so. I think I put in here maybe a little over two months. and then by July or January um we would be closing that and the selection panel would start that review. Um that does take time. Sometimes artists apply for things and then that artwork's no longer available um etc. So that final selection we would be looking to make um in April next year. Um, artist contracts can take some time and then they would be installing in October 2027 for two years. The estimated project budget for the last artwalk we had 75,000. Um, a lot of that was spent on the concrete pad pouring and the labor associated with that with public works. Um, we did not use all of the artist stipens um because we only had nine artists, not 10, but we had went a little bit over more on the site prep. So, my hope is that um site prep will be a little bit lower on this one. Um, potentially we could do all 10. Um, and we still have a good project contingency in there. So, the recommendation for today is um to approve the project plan for the temporary artwalk. Um, and I'd like to open this up to discussion on theme and um and discussion on how best to move forward. >> Great. Thank you, Meredith. Um, exciting to be moving forward on another >> artwalk project. Um, I have an initial uh re reaction to the art history theme because I think that term can mean different things to different people depending on their uh cultural background or you know various factors. So if we go with an art history theme, I think we need to provide language in the um um in the RFP that might suggest that um art history um from all continents, thinking globally, thinking you know from um any any cultures because having studied studied art history and being a professional in the field, every everything I learned in college was basically euroentric. And there's really, especially in recent years, over the last couple of decades, the art his art historical and museum communities have really rethought the way that we teach art history, the way we think about it. um what's included so that it actually does uh reflect the diversity of our world. And um it's a pretty broad topic. But if we somehow word this so that we encourage artists to use whatever source material works for them with their artistic expression, then I think we could end up with a project that is really rich and and reflects the sort of the diversity inclusiveness >> because that is what I would be looking for is something more unique than your typical um so we could all learn from each other on this. >> Right. Right. So, um, art history from all cultures, thinking globally, I I think would really make it that much more interesting. >> Are you looking for more specifics on the context of the whatever piece it may be and then for people to actually educate and learn from that piece? Yeah, that's a it's a good question. Um, are we think thinking about inspiration from a perhaps a particular artist or it could be from an art movement? >> Yeah. Um, >> an artist's use of color or >> there's a I mean it it's pretty broad actually. I think um >> it's also intended to be that way to see what we get. Um, I think it could be, um, personally sort of exciting to see how another artist thinks and what what resources they're using when they're creating that are different than mine. Um, >> yeah, >> I just think about um, some of the criticisms of the way art history has been approached. And so you might look at an artist um like Picasso is a great example because he's so influential and so famous, but he appropriated from African and other cultures to a very large degree and became world famous and extremely wealthy off off of this appropriation. Um and you know we live in a more global society today. Um and and one of the challenges is for us to learn from one another and to try to bridge you know bridge some of these divides and to come to better understanding in terms of crosscultural experience. So I think the language in the RFP is important, >> but with that being said, uh, giving artists great latitude, I think would really be important. >> And I I'm happy to bring forward the call for art in at the next meeting in September, maybe to review because >> we're a little ahead of the game here, which is great. So, if I were to bring that forward in September to review the language together because you've got some great points that I don't want to miss. >> Um, and then we can sort of finalize that at the next meeting. >> Yeah, >> I I support that. Um, yeah, after having studied art history in college and my experience in museums and curated spaces um and and cultural spaces, there's a bit of concern that comes to my mind in terms of his story. Sorry, it's just saying it as his story of whose context is this. >> Are you talking about her story? >> I I love the Gorilla Girls and I really want to bring forward some of their >> I know some of them. >> Oh, but needless to say, I I'm very sensitive to who has been the author of historical context and why are we familiar with them? And I am adverse to some of more of kind of the the kitschy representations that we'll sometimes see of different artists tropes when I go to a museum store and I'll see the same doll but in a dolly style and in a Picasso style and in a matise style and >> I don't know if that's getting to the heart of this intent. So I would like to see that language and have a discussion. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And you bring a a really important point because the European art, well, European and American art history that was really at the heart of art history, collegiate programs, academic programs for decades and decades, probably centuries. Um, but we're we're looking at a very maledominated >> um realm of art history and very eurosentric and um >> and even when Yeah. >> Sorry, didn't go ahead. >> When when female artists were creating work so often, I'm aware of the husband taking more credit because that is what was >> societally acceptable. >> Right. So one thing I'll also mention um and myself coming you know out of the museum world museums are really recontextualizing their collections and their exhibitions of how they present art historical objects and documentation and the artworks. And so, um, the LA County Museum has done this recently, completely reorganized, how their collection is on view. And so, you can see African or Asian or other kinds of art historically and contemporary next to European masterworks or American contemporary art. And so there's these relational relational views of art history that I think are really dynamic. Um it's a bit harder to navigate in in in those terms. And one of the museums I did work at earlier in my career has completely redone their collection. And when I visited there recently, I was just like, whoa. uh but all like all the figurative work is together but it's showing you centuries from all around the world you know so it's really interesting to compare the figurative work from all these different you know from pre-Colombian or Asian or contemporary American um so what the artists come up with I think is going to be really the fun part of this as long as we frame >> the the request for proposals in a manner that encourages people to really be creative. >> I have a question for you, Meredith. Um, when you have on for the budget, did the site planning and prep you have for the 10K, is that taken account in um reusing the pads? >> Yes. So, we had 15,000 last year. >> Um, I don't think I I would need to use all of that for this coming. >> Okay. I just don't we don't know what we're going to receive in um if pads would need to be poured for JG way sculpture. Is there a new location that we want to start thinking about? You know, last time we did Seventh Amendesino, remember we took out those black planters and now we have art there. >> And so is there as you go around town now, I mean, thinking about these locations in Railroad Square, we took out it was trash cans um from the hotels and put a nice pad there with art. So, um I don't think that we would be spending more than that, but I also want to continue to look at beautifying these locations, too. >> Very good question. Thanks. >> Okay. Uh >> sorry, quick question. Was there any thought about asking the public for or or asking our downtown partners, business owners or the the downtown community groups uh where they see opportunity sites? Uh I I think that would be >> so prior to the last artwalk and for the last artwalk, we had representatives from both DAO and Railroad Square on the selection panel. Um that's a potential for this one as well. Um I've walked the sites with both groups. Um we're always looking at different improvements on that. Um so yes, we could most likely do that again as well if there's some opportunity sites. Um I know some other improvements that are already going to be happening in some of these sites downtown. And then our team in economic development um does sort of have a project list of these areas that we're looking to beautify. Um, so yes, that's completely a potential with this. >> Okay. Any other questions or comments? Nancy, did you have any thoughts? Okay. All right. Thank you. Um, any public comments. So, uh, you guys said like the I got a little lost like you guys are it's art history or you guys deciding on a different theme. I got a little lost on that part. Um, I think I can clarify. So, we're talking about art history in a very open and broad context. So, instead of just thinking about European art history, which is at least in my mind, that's what how it's usually framed. So, we're talking about the Renaissance and and Picasso and Goan and you know these >> very famous artists. But what I'm suggesting is we think about art history in global terms and the different kinds of cultural art making that might come from Latin America or Africa or Asia or other parts of the world and not just what we think of as this more narrowly focused art history. >> Does that make sense? >> Yeah. I guess like for some reason I thought um I thought it was um the theme was being changed or something. >> I think we're going to narrow it down, put more of an emphasis on the context of it. So it kind of has it's still going to be somewhat of a art history, but we're gonna on the next meeting we're going to discuss on >> the art walks. some cuz just cuz um this is all new to me, but like these >> so it sounds like there's something that happens every year. >> It's every two years and there's sculptural or works that are for the public realm. Um so we'll be doing a call for that. Um and I'll I'll give you information after the meeting or actually I'll email it all to you on that and I'm happy to connect on it. So yeah. >> Yeah. The idea is this is all outdoor art that is placed downtown and in Railroad Square. So it's >> walk to multiple >> Yeah. So you can walk around and see all of these outdoor artworks >> and interact with it. >> And then that's the so that this year's the um theme is art history is what you guys are saying, right? >> It would be um the call for art would be opening this year and the installs would actually happen in a year. >> Oh. >> Because it takes time. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So we're just discussing right now what the project plan is for the um artworks. >> Yeah. And and I I would say that we might reconsider how maybe the the term we use is something a little different than art history. You know, we might um maybe maybe we think of the theme as uh we we want artists to be submitting work that is inspired by an artist or an art movement >> from history. or something like that. >> We could even ask for when the artists submit a statement, we could leave it as open-ended as inspired by dot dot dot and then ask the artist to help us tell a story. >> I think I have that in the um submission requirements. Yeah. Statement inspired by 150 word maximum statement. So, >> but even just leaving the title. >> I agree. I like that. I'll bring it back in September. >> I like that. inspired by dot dot dot and you know tell the story of your inspiration like why this piece >> Roman I I appreciate these questions because it gives us an idea on how we're perceived or how we're explaining ourselves and since the public is going to be seeing us and want to know >> your questions is making it going to make it clear >> to the general audience. >> Yeah, I think that's a really good point. Because sometimes we get locked in our vocabulary or whatever. >> Yes. >> And you know think that people already know certain kinds of what the projects are and what we've built up to. >> In other words, in in um this RFP, no art speak allowed. >> No jargon. >> There's the title. >> Yeah. >> How long do the pieces stay out? usually >> two years. >> Oh, yeah. So, there's some out there right now. >> Mhm. Yeah. >> And I can again I can um I'll send you information on this since it's a >> public art road square or in downtown um in there in Fourth Street in the areas and stuff. >> There's a lot of temporary art there and um that's became from this. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So, there's nine nine artworks currently on view as Meredith um >> So, have you seen the burnt tree? >> Um, >> I'm not sure. Like, that's why I feel like I have to drive by there cuz like walk around downtown and, you know, take a look at the website, you know, get maybe get it up on your phone and then you can walk around and see all these things. They're in Courthouse Square. Um, Juju Alley is the the alley right next to where Russian River Brewery is. There's a piece in front of the museum on Seventh Street. >> Oh, they're kind of spread out. >> They're spread out. They are spread out. >> In my mind, I'm picturing all these statues side by side. >> They're all over. >> We can't do too much back and forth with comment. Sorry. >> A lot of people walk by will comment and just be like, "Oh, I thought that was that's supposed to be there. That's going >> That's probably what happened. I probably just thought it was there." You know, >> thank you for the reminder about our parliamentary procedure. Um so um I am closing the um public comments portion of this discussion and uh we are up to a point where we need to entertain a motion um about the temporary artwork project. So uh would somebody like to make a motion to approve the 2027 20 2029 temporary artwork project plan? >> Before we make a motion, can I make a clarification? Okay. So what we're looking at today there would be different language. This is just the project plan >> and what you would share with us next time is a different document. >> Yes. I would come back with a call for our um language. >> Okay. >> And then we'll review that together before I make that live. >> Yeah. Great. And so we're looking at >> the plan but not the perspectus. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, um, back to the, uh, business at hand. Um, we need a, um, hopefully, uh, we need a motion to approve the 202729 temporary artwalk project plan. Uh, recommended by staff. >> Anybody? >> I was with your your recommendation. What did you say again? It's to um >> No, for um um Kristen. Oh, >> she was >> Oh, so I was clarifying that this is the project plan and next time we're going to review the language for the call for BART. >> Okay. >> So, this approving of this >> on top of that, you didn't want anything specifically changed with the plan. Correct. >> Well, the the plan is draft. >> No, no, no. Yeah, I get that. But I thought >> I agree with this timeline. We know that things will be subject to shifting with the dates. Um, >> but I think we're looking at the estimated total project budget and this is expected to cost less than what we spent last year. So I'm >> looking at those are the things that I'm looking at. >> I'll be bringing forward the language to >> I'm satisfied with where we are. >> Yeah. And if if somebody would like to make a motion contingent upon >> um changes to be presented at the next meeting, I think that would be appropriate. Oh, I will go ahead and make a motion for the 27 29 temporary artwalk project plan to approve the funding. >> Great. Um, it's been moved by Lisa. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Nancy, thank you very much. >> Okay. Any additional discussion before we vote. Okay. Hearing none. Uh, Jack, would you please take a vote? >> Absolutely. Committee member Fuentes. >> Yes. >> Sher Nathansson. Yes. >> Vice Chair Kefir. >> Yes. >> And committee member Tjo Vasquez. >> Yes. >> Let the record reflect. And the motion passes unanimously. >> Great. Thank you all. Good discussion. Okay. We are up to item 7.3, the Brookwood Mural Design. Um, and this is another one we get to vote on. How fun. Meredith. I have been working with ArtStart on the mural at the police station. Um, and I apologize I attached this and I did not attach an overview of the project of the history of this. I'm realizing um it was last year um that they received we went to an RFP uh process and then they were approved here at APC um to implement the mural at the police station. Um the feedback from APC when that was approved was there was um was to fill in some more of the spots on the fence um because it's a very large um long black fence on Brookwood a um it's it's about 280 ft um originally we thought it was 200 feet so it very long and um art start and the contract did take a while with that um and they've been now starting on these roses is um I was able to go there end of last week, so I wasn't able to put the the photos I took in this. It's really awesome what the kids are working on. Honestly, it was um it was more than I expected to see. Um it was neat to see them tracing the roses and all the hands-on painting the leaves, etc. Um this is a very long mural, as you can imagine. Um their but the budget's only $9,000 for this from the police station. Um so working with Heather who's the director at ArtStart. Um when they started to approach filling it in with the leaves, they're also looking at costs um associated with this. And so they gave me the attached um couple designs to review. Um, and that's why I want to bring it to you as a discussion and approval item um, because it does look like there could potentially be some design changes in this. Um, so today I'll review um, each of these um, and then we'll open it up for um, a discussion. So the option A um, was more foliage on the bottom which was originally um, recommended by APC. Um, this does come with a lot larger costs. They're using a PolyTap fabric and so they're all painting it at ArtStar and then cutting it out. Um so this is an increase in material costs. Um they do have concerns on funding. Um I haven't addressed that portion with ArtStar yet or the police station. I'm meeting with the police station tomorrow. Um a team and potentially I may bring back to APC a request for a little bit more funding for this project. Um but again we have to address the budgets etc. Um, so option A is additional foliage at the bottom. Um, and and here you can see what it would look like in length. Option B is dynamic motion. Um, background image representing motion, water, wave, air, and um, and the color can also potentially change a little bit if there's maybe a different blue, etc. That will all be a discussion item. This would be painted directly on the fence. So, they would go first and paint the blue, anti-graffiti coat it, um or actually potentially anti-graffiti coat it after the flowers are on. So, um that's a less expensive way than doing the um poly top fabric, cutting those leaves out. And I did run these by the police chief and this one was um his choice. Option C um is using the fence ridges as an integral part of the design um and vertical stripes that create visual gradation of the three colors. There's option three. So for today, um I'd like to open it up to discussion. Um I'm just going to go back to this one. I'd like to open it up to discussion on these designs um and have a recommendation um ideally a decision on how best to guide them moving forward. Whether it's an approval of all three designs, whether it's an approval of one um I am again meeting with the police team tomorrow morning to review this. Um, we'll also look at funding and um, so I'd like to sort of have this discussion if funding wasn't an option sort of what what the design um, recommendation would be for this. I'll turn it over to you. >> Okay. Thanks, Meredith. Um, can you possibly enlarge this image so we can see the Oh, yeah. There you go. Excellent. >> You want me to? >> Yeah. Okay, Lisa. >> Yeah. So, my um I went and um rode my bike by this too and just to see. Um the first one is a lot and it's in your face more or less. It's kind of like all those flowers are smooshed in there. Um the second one I think I appreciate the most just because there is that wave, that flow, and it's a sidewalk that's super close to a street. There really is not that much for a bike lane there. And you just want people to keep moving, moving, moving. And that one is it is called dynamic. And so it is a constant move and it pushes you out there. And it pushes it would push you to go with that flow and continue. And as we can recall, the spokesperson for the um police department even said that their reason for putting these walls is because they didn't want people to look at them or look where they're parked or something like that. But anyway, so they just want to keep people flowing and keep them keep going. And that definitely the B does that that I felt like um whether or because the third option that we have there I think that was C with the vertical lines is definitely makes it a bit more stagnant >> and where you don't want to move that you're just sitting there and it's not giving even movement to the roses more like almost like be the roses are actually kind of somewhat dancing and wanting to move too with that flow of the blue and that is what I saw. But >> yeah, >> no, those are really good points. And um >> so >> yeah, I I see that third option as being uh yeah, stagnant or static. I mean, it's just kind of very rigid >> and it doesn't have that forward motion. And I agree also that um design A feels like it's just too dense. Yes, it's very dense. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you for those >> option B is painted on to the the >> just the blue. >> Just the blue. They would be looking at painting that on first prior to putting the flowers on. >> So the Okay. >> And so the the flowers are are painted on poly tab in the cutout and and >> and then they'll be placed on. >> Okay. Um yeah, >> just looking at the three designs, I appreciate them taking the time to do this study for us so that we can have this conversation here. Um similarly, I have a preference for the B design. I I also think A is a little too busy. >> I know that was our request was to get more in there, but I think it's too much. And like Lisa was talking about that site, we really need to think about how people are going to view this while they're moving. And um I really like the connection between the creek and the roses. That being very central for my experience for Santa Rosa. I'm like, "Oh, the the creek is the lifeblood of Santa Rosa." So, I think that's a really welldesigned narrative or like a great way of telling a story without um hopefully without be too much of a a traffic concern. >> I hope we get some attention for those bike lanes in the future. Just putting that plug out there. >> Yes, that would be wonderful right there. So, so Meredith the um can we make a reasonable assumption if we recommend B that it won't increase the budget or at least not by very much. >> Any of these are is going to increase the budget. I believe talking to them it seems this has been a very big project. Um it's been a lot of material. So um when I meet with the police team tomorrow morning and then I'm going to connect with Heather over at ArtStart. Um, the last thing I want is to see a nonprofit out of money from doing the project. >> So, I just need to review with her the actual costs and projects. All of this and then I'll most likely bring back to you a recommendation. It may only be a couple thousand. I mean, most likely I'm assuming it's even two or three would like really help out because they have all of the artist leads on this. >> The police department's not willing to pull put up front. >> Oh, I haven't talked to them yet. I'm meeting with them tomorrow morning because they're they are providing the funding for this project. they provided $10,000 for this um and there has yet to be any out of our arts budget. Um that's going to be my conversation with them on um I can't speak for them on that and then um but I'd like to figure a way to move forward and I would bring that back to APC. >> Okay, >> great. >> Okay. Um >> any additional questions or comments? >> Okay. Um, >> would it be helpful for us to put behind you that we are in support of you asking for again more more input from the police department for a project like this as it is on >> or more funding >> more funding? >> That's what I mean. Yeah, that's sorry. That's what I meant to say. But >> let's be specific. >> I'm just not sure what where where we could say that. >> No, no, I don't want >> Don't beat around the bush. Just ask a normal lady. Okay. Um, uh, public comment. Oh, so, oh, I got confused. So, polyester something or other. >> Polytemp, it's a type of a fabric that actually can they they've been using in murals now. >> Um, and then >> so it it it it's very durable, so you can use it outdoors and you and then you kind of paste it to the wall, >> the shape of whatever the object is or something or >> Well, so it comes in sheets. >> Yeah. You you paint whatever you're painting and then the way they're doing is they're going to cut out the rose shapes >> and then glue them to the wall. What material is the wall? >> Um it's it's a it's a fence. It's a corrugated metal fence. >> Metal. >> Mhm. >> Um cuz I'm Wouldn't it be cheaper like if they just like how big would each flower be for example like from the image like like this big or something? Say >> yeah. Yeah, even up to four feet. I mean, they're they're pretty they're pretty large on what I've what I what I've seen. So, >> if it's like a repeated image, like couldn't you like get I'm sure there's a printer that would do it like stencils or something and use like spray paint. It would be cheaper. Much cheaper like like thousands, you know. Um, Art Start is a it's a program for um for youth and so they're they're learning painting and public art uh making techniques and so uh I think that's not a bad comment to give back to their director um if there is a way of kind of streamlining the process. But, uh, there it's a very it's a it's a program that's been going on for years and they they really do a great job. So, um, you know, one of the things we can do is trust them to use techniques that make the most sense for this particular placement. >> Okay. >> Okay. Um, thank you. >> Oh, do you have one more question? >> Just one more comment. Okay. Oh, I I thought like um the design it was like a little like I I like the first one only because it had less color variation like if it was too overwhelming like it would be cool if it was just like green and like red and white or something like that cuz it becomes so like almost like a piñata. It was very like overwhelming and the idea was cool to have that streak because you guys said you wanted it like moving, right? >> So like what if it was like a vine and the roses were like on the vine because I noticed that it didn't take advantage of negative space at all in any of them. Like it was like you didn't get time to breathe in any of the examples. It seemed like >> interesting. Thank you. >> Okay. Um, public comment is closed and let us uh entertain a motion to um make a make a uh approve a recommended design for the Brookwood mural. So, would anybody like to make a motion to approve this? >> Do we have to choose what design specific? I think everyone decided on B. So you can you can just repeat if that's fine. >> Yeah, it I think um an appropriate motion since we all agree >> is to um move to approve the mural design based on option B. >> I'll make a motion to approve the mural design option B. >> Okay. For the Brookwood mural project >> project. >> I'll second that. >> Okay. Uh, it's been moved by Nancy and seconded by Lisa. Any additional discussion? >> Uh, in terms I have a quick point regarding the color of the blue. If that could be a little not as bright as we saw in that image. Um, I do think that that is I like I like the addition of the blue stripe, but if it could be just thought about in terms of its um darkness and how bright it is against the color of the roses, I don't want it to take away from the roses. >> I would like it to be kind of like a background image >> and it's supposed to symbolize um the the creek, right? So, you know, maybe it's slightly >> it's not that bright. >> Yeah. We know that. >> Yeah. >> Artistic liberties and all, but >> Right. Right. But yeah, I think a variation on the blue is um that doesn't have to be part of the motion, but it certainly has can be a feedback comment. >> I agree with you, Kristen. >> And um the and the p public comment um about maybe some of the roses could be on a vine might be an interesting um bit of feedback, too. and then let the artists figure out what to do with it. Okay. Uh it has been moved and seconded >> to approve the Brookwood mural design based on option number B. Uh Jack, would you please take a vote? >> Committee member Pentes. >> Yes. >> Sharon Nson, >> yes. >> Vice Chair Kefir, >> yes. >> Committee member Trey Hobasquez, >> yes. >> Let the record reflect. Motion passes unanimously. >> All right. Thank you all. Okay, we're at uh item number 7.4, arts and culture update. Um I guess will present an update, please. >> Yes. Um and I don't have any slides today. Um just a couple items I wanted to review with you. One is live at Giuliard. We've had four successful concerts. Yesterday was a little lower in attendance. Um we had the um air quality advisory on Friday. there. Um, all wreck and parks events were cancelled outside. So, um I think maybe yesterday I would say around 700 or so. Um, but the weekends before have been pretty packed. Um, looking at probably 1,500 plus. Um, so I'd really encourage you if you can um get out there if you are around and you'd like to help. Um, we can always use help at the end moving trash cans etc. Um, we have our APC tent. Um, and so we're answering questions on the art walk, how to apply for a call for art, um, and other ideas community members have. So, it's been really great and encouraging >> for our information. How many more? >> Two. Okay. Yeah. Two. Um, from 5:00 to 7 Giuliard Park on Sundays and that, um, a sawa update. So, um the last economic development subcommittee meeting I brought forward um the um stage concept um as a discussion item uh because we received in a letter from the downtown action organization in support um of the stage concept. As I've um come before you before here um we have um full support from Asawa family on um moving forward with new a new concept for the panel. Six panels have been fully completed and I'm not sure if I've noted that here. So we have six panels that are now going to be moving up here to Santa Rosa. Um the recommendation from Econdev sub was for APC involvement. Um I didn't have it in a slide today. I'm now working with the downtown action organization on on what that looks like and then so I'd expect it to be coming forth to you in the next month or two um more of an update on on your involvement um as we continue to move that forward. So it's really exciting. I think everyone's really excited that six of the panels have been poured. Um, next Monday at economic development subcommittee, I'm also bringing forward the discussion on um, temporary displaying these panels. Um, and then I would also be bringing that forward here most likely in September on what a um, what a display would look like, what are some potential locations because um, as we know a stage or any permanent placement of these panels will take some time and it's such a beloved community piece. I'd really like to see these um get out in public. So um I'll be bringing that forward most likely in September as a discussion item. Um and then as I work with the downtown um action organization on the APC involvement. Um and with that we have um the film program's been going very well. I'm not sure if you saw in the news we had a um um a film that was filming downtown um that had portrayed ICE agents. And so, um, the city, um, did a public notice on that. I was there for the film, um, till 11:30 p.m. >> Oh, wow. >> with the filmmakers, um, out of one, um, I wanted to ensure that any community member walking by did know that it was just a film. And then I was also wanted to speak with them as well about, um, film in general and sort of their thoughts. It was really encouraging and it was actually um, really neat to speak with community members. one, it's a it's a sensitive subject and we're aware of that and that's why the city took the precautions like we did. Um, it also brought up, I think, a lot of um, one great things about film and also how Santa Rosa is taking the lead on on these subjects or a lot of people's truth and it's important that um, they are discussed and that you know um, that's sort of what art also is. It's it's a lot of um, things that are actually happening for people. out. Um we um we've seen a lot of um more I guess you call it hits with our analytics to our film website. Um and I plan on doing a film impact report towards the end of the year on our film program. Um we've been receiving in a lot of commercials etc. And um I do plan on doing another film mixer most likely in October. So I'll be bringing that forward. And other than that I think those are my um my updates for today. >> Great. Thank you. Uh any questions for Meredith on her report? Okay, great. Uh we are up to item number eight, committee reports. Um any general comments or announcements from our committee members? I have both. I am >> working with the Santa Rosa Urban Arts Partnership to put out information about the Santa Rosa Open Studios that will be taking place two weekends in September. They are September 13th, 12th, and 13th. And then also the following weekend, September 19th and 20th. Those are the dates where you'll be able to go to these artists studios and visit. I am promoting >> where arts which um where are these studios at? >> So if you go to the Santa Rosa Urban Arts Partnership website, you can >> click on open studios and that will take you to a map of all of the artist locations. >> Okay. And mostly within Santa Rosa. >> They're in the Santa Rosa city limits. Correct. >> Got it. >> Thank you. >> If not in the city limits, then right outside. Okay. >> Uh, and right now there is a preview show going on, preview exhibit going on at the Finley Center. It's going on for another month. Uh, and it's a unique opportunity to see a preview of all of these artists in one space. So, you're seeing 50 different artists together in one show, similar to how the >> National Arts Program show was. Um, and then we will be having an exhibit party on the 2nd and I'll leave these with Meredith and I can email our com well email her and ask her to send them to you. But, uh, I would love to invite everyone to attend. We are having a reception on Wednesday, September 2nd. Wednesday, September 2nd at the Finley Center. We'll have um live music refreshments there. Uh, and we're inviting our our guests to dress up and be part of a passport program where folks can get a passport and if they take it to the studios, they can get it stamped at different places. So, >> and then we get a free beer or >> we'll tell you more information at our party. But, um, >> yeah, >> please uh stay tuned for Open Studios. We have a show at the Finley Center. Uh, I plan to go again this week. I've already gone once and I'm like, wait, I need to go again so I can see it all. >> Thank you, Kristen. And I'll just mention that I've heard uh now a couple of times um Spring Masterfield, who um is the director of Santa Rosa Urban Arts Partnership, has been on the radio promoting >> this. So, >> she's on the Crush Radio station every Wednesday morning is doing a a kind of a little spot about the state of art or what we should >> Yeah. And and it's good. She does a really good job. So, yeah. Just thought we mention that. >> I love working with her. >> Great. Great. Um Okay, good. Um, anything else going on? Okay, I think that wraps it up. Um, thank you everyone. This meeting is adjourned. There we go.