Christmas Special - Life Hacks, Biggest Lessons & Best Resolutions
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In this Christmas special episode, the hosts gather in Newcastle upon Tyne to review life hacks and lessons from 2024 while discussing New Year's resolutions. Jonathan Watson introduces a physical hack involving a Ninja Creami appliance, which he uses to create high-protein ice cream by blending protein shakes with skimmed milk or fruit; however, they debate the best method for adding mix-ins like chocolate chips without them sinking to the bottom. George Mack shares his preference for Uber Black XL rides as a way to treat oneself after difficult days, contrasting this luxury experience with the often dilapidated vehicles found in American ride-sharing services and recounting several harrowing stories of unsafe drivers encountered during their travels globally. The conversation also touches on culinary appliances like air fryers versus slow cookers, highlighting how specific tools can simplify low-calorie eating by eliminating portion estimation anxiety. The discussion shifts to digital life hacks centered around optimizing AI usage and media consumption habits. Jonathan reveals a custom script using the Tampermonkey extension that filters out YouTube videos under 30 minutes long, effectively removing "low-quality" content like clickbait exposés from his feed while retaining longer-form educational material he finds valuable in hindsight. He explains how this approach leverages the concept of knowledge as a semantic tree, where one must build understanding from foundational roots up to complex branches rather than jumping into isolated topics without context. This method addresses the bottleneck that true learning is limited by existing knowledge and helps users avoid the regret associated with consuming short-form distractions or "cocaine algorithms" designed for endless scrolling. A significant portion of the episode focuses on psychological reframing regarding problem-solving, personal growth, and goal setting. The hosts explore the idea that problems are inevitable and often increase in difficulty as one advances professionally; therefore, the value lies not in eliminating all issues but in solving them to become a different person. They discuss Benjamin Hardy's concept from *The Gap and the Gain*, suggesting that individuals should look back at past severe difficulties with hindsight bias to realize how they overcame those challenges, thereby reducing fear of current obstacles. Furthermore, they address the phenomenon where people constantly move their goalposts—such as always wanting 2.5 times more income than currently earned—which leads to perpetual dissatisfaction; instead, they argue that health and time are illiquid assets worth far more than future wealth or fame. Finally, the group covers strategies for maintaining consistency in habits like New Year's resolutions and business growth trajectories. Jonathan advises questioning the viability of goals with high failure rates by looking at systems that actually work, such as Alcoholics Anonymous or social accountability mechanisms, rather than relying on sheer willpower alone. He emphasizes journaling as a critical investment in one's future self, noting how reviewing past entries provides clarity over years and helps identify recurring patterns. The episode concludes with the concept of trajectory being more important than position; just as adding small increments to a weightlifting routine yields better long-term results than chasing massive jumps that risk injury or burnout, sustainable progress requires accepting slower rates of growth while maintaining direction.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back. It
is a Christmas special. For those of you
who have only joined the show over the
last year or the last few years, might
not recognize this room and it is my old
living room in Newcastle upon Tyne where
we first started the show joined by
Johnny and Yusuf from Propane Fitness
and George Mack stopping off en route
from Glasgow to Manchester, of course.
Uh
this is a life hacks lessons from 2024
and best New Year's resolutions episode.
So, if you haven't seen these, we'll go
around in a circle coming up with
whatever we've discovered over the last
year and then the rest of us will rip it
apart or say that it's good and maybe
there'll be some ideas for you for what
you can implement going into the new
year. Also, if you haven't done a New
Year's review,
uh the exact template that I use and
have crafted very delicately over the
last decade or so is available right now
for free at chriswillx.com
/review.
That's tradition. Something else which
is tradition
is you getting hot potato and going
first, so potato A festive for you.
festive potato Jonathan Watson, what
have you got for us?
Is it life hacks first?
It is.
So, my life hack is
a Ninja Creami.
So happy you said that. Really? I've got
I thought you Have you? I've got one.
Yusuf's been thinking about getting one.
I think hasn't got one yet. Thanks.
What's a Ninja Creami? Do you know what
one is?
No.
Educate me. It's um
It basically what I use it for is making
ice cream from a protein shake.
It's
brilliant. So, like
skimmed milk What What do you What do
you use it for?
The same thing or
Yeah. Berries. I imagine you have
berries in yours. Uh actually, no.
Mine has been low sugar high protein
ice cream made with the exact protein
powder that I want.
Right.
So, pretty much the same thing that
you're doing. Yeah. Do you put topping
in it?
Uh so, I've encountered a problem with
that which is when you You have to make
up the mixture and then put it in the
freezer for it to freeze.
The issue is
the viscosity of the liquid when you put
it in the freezer versus the viscosity
of the liquid when it becomes ice cream
is different. So, if you put chocolate
chips in, they'll just sink to the
bottom and create a layer. What's your
solution? Well, you put them on after
you've So, you you cream it.
Mhm. And then you You You what? Sorry.
I'm just writing instructions. You what?
I don't see a pen, George. Doesn't look
like you're making notes. It looks like
you're trying to make fun of me, George.
Go on. You
You You cream it.
Cream it and then once it's creamy,
there's a mix-in button. Oh. Have you
not encountered that? If I If I'm being
completely honest, it's not me that uses
it.
What a bougie problem.
is to distribute the chocolate chips
throughout the height of the ice cream
rather than all at the bottom like a
screwball or all at the top like a
Like a topping. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
but it is a topping. Yeah. I see. So,
you make it first and then you once it's
turned into ice cream You add the [ __ ]
that you want to add.
Add the topping and then press mix-in or
I think it's called mix-in or mix again.
Okay. Uh what is the best recipes that
you've come up with?
I think white chocolate and raspberry.
Whey
from uh Perform.
It's like P
Let's just focus. Carry on.
It's like P and then the number four R M
or something like that.
Okay. Um
How many scoops? Two.
Who's two? With skimmed milk. How much?
350 mil.
400 mil is what you want to use cuz that
takes you up to the limit the limit
line. It's just not quite the the ratio
is not quite right. Sometimes a banana
improves the texture.
Interesting. Have you been able to get
the sort of gelatinous stickiness that
you want? That's something that I've
struggled with.
like it to be more sticky or less
sticky?
Little sticky. Little more sticky.
I think that's about how long it's
frozen for.
Xanthan gum. Yeah. I don't want to get
involved with that stuff. I feel like
that's a whole other variable to manage.
Yeah. Cuz how much xanthan gum?
Well, you just experiment, wouldn't you?
But think how long it's going to take to
get that right.
Yeah, that's true. Because you've got
something that works sort of 80% now.
Exactly. Okay. So, white chocolate
Perform.
White chocolate and raspberry whey. Yep.
With some raspberries and white
chocolate chips as the topping mixed in.
So good. It's like 40 g of protein or a
little bit more if you include the milk.
And like 400 calories.
It's brilliant. And you eat one of those
off in one go?
Yeah. Wow. Dessert? Lunch?
You can tell you're not running anymore.
Usually like last meal of the day.
That's pretty dialed.
So good.
That's very good. I'm a big Ninja I
mean, Ninja are just between the air
fryers all of the different air fryers
they've got. They've got this air fryer
crispy thing now which is a glass tray
at the bottom so you can see how it sort
of crisps and you can make lasagnas, you
know, where you have that sort of the
filtering on the top. Ah. I've not got
an air fryer.
Do you have an air fryer, I imagine?
That seems like
Yeah, I should get one, shouldn't I? Do
you have one, George?
Yes, but I I never used it.
You really value culinary appliances
that allow you to eat low calorie foods
and make them nice. So, I think an air
fryer would be high value.
Do you know what I think I value more?
Slow slow cooker. Something that allows
me to see whatever it produces as one
serving.
Ideally in a container. So, what I think
what I like about Ninja Creami is
I can't have more or less than it. I
just eat the whole thing. And I don't
have to worry about like how many scoops
of this should I have. Do you know I eat
the whole thing? Yeah. Okay. That's
That's Chris's way of life. Eat the
whole thing.
Yeah. So, it's a a story of a kilo of
yogurt.
Uh I think an air fryer for you. I mean,
this isn't even one of mine, but I think
an air fryer for you would be nothing
short of life changing. What would I use
it for? Uh do you ever eat steak at
home? Yeah.
But not like regularly, though. But
would you
Ninja Creami every day. Okay. Would you
eat steak at home if you could have
frozen amazing steak in 20 minutes?
Is that Is that your best suggestion,
steak? It's [ __ ] unbelievable for
steak. Yeah.
Okay. Uh This is a This is a Peterson
hack. Okay. I like it. There's a woman
who eats a lot of steak. She knows how
to cook a steak.
If that's all you're eating. Yeah, which
I am. So, it's important.
All right. I like that. Ninja Creami.
So, you're not having Creamis.
Uh that's That's a past That's a
previous Chris thing.
Correct. Got it. Uh but what have you
got? This is Ernie, actually. Is it?
[ __ ] I misgendered him.
Thank you, George.
So, I've I've chosen this suit to
introduce the most kind of serious point
of the podcast, but I've been doing a
lot of
walking and journaling and reflecting
and I've actually been tuning an AI
model using a few kind of different
database structures to identify
the optimal categorization method for
life hacks and
You're doing it again.
What I've come down to is
physical and digital.
So,
You said this the exact same thing
Actually, last year it was a team of
operational analysts and yeah, but I
think we're getting closer to that.
conclusion.
Yeah, same as Wow. What a What a relief.
I think we're on something.
Increased the computing still hit the
same wall.
So, the physical life hack is to use
things that annoy you like mild
irritations throughout the day as
gratitude triggers. So,
you wake up in the morning, 7:00 a.m.,
you hear a siren going past you like
bloody hell, like I just want to 5
minutes more sleep and
that's a gratitude trigger for that
could have been me in the ambulance.
Or like
you could be even the driver of the
ambulance, still pretty rubbish having
to drive an ambulance at 7:00 in the
morning.
Or you could be in the back of the
ambulance. So, it's like okay, there's a
little switch. You encounter someone
who's a bit of a dick to you at the
checkout in a shop or whatever and you
go
they're being a dick because they're
miserable at their job. They're having a
bad time. I can go home and eat my sushi
and pot of mango or whatever. They They
have to be on shift until So,
just having that little flip has been
really valuable. I've been trying to
think of something that you couldn't do
that with, but I'm struggling.
I'm sure there's loads. Yeah, but it's I
guess it's how flexible you want to be.
Mhm. What are you trying to have empathy
for the other person or are you trying
to sort of do inversion on yourself?
What are you prioritizing?
Both are good effects of that, aren't
they?
Mhm. I think it's It's like a nice side
effect to have just be be more happy.
Yeah. It's pretty pro-social.
I like that. Okay.
Uh
This is one from George's uh birthday
this year in Miami
uh which Dickie Bush decided to do and
it's Uber Black XL.
So, Uber Black XL I don't know whether I
don't know how available it is in the
UK, but especially in America and
probably in the bigger cities in the UK,
you can order you know, a seven-person
Escalade with a driver that's always
dressed quite nice and formally and it's
basically you're having a private
driver, but you just order it on Uber
and it's about maybe two to three times
the cost of a normal Uber. So, it's you
know, special occasions only for the
most part, but the way that you feel
when you get into it and when you get
out of it is lovely and the experience
is easily three times nicer than being
in the back of someone's Kia Forte.
Mhm. Um especially in America, this is a
big America problem because it's less
expensive uh it's less more expensive in
America and the depths that your normal
UberX can descend to in America as you
learned firsthand this year.
It's like the back of some Nissan Altima
the
30-year-old that you're sticking to the
seat. It can go really low. So, uh if
you've had a a tough day and you want to
treat yourself,
a journey home in a blue Uber Black XL
is nice. If you're out on a date and you
sort of want to make something feel a
little bit nicer.
Big fan.
Why do you think the standard of cars in
America is generally higher? Is it more
of a state symbol?
It's lower.
Is it that the Is it bimodal? Cuz I've
like you're saying that the
Uber some Ubers go really low.
Correct. In America. The UK doesn't seem
I think Americans generally have
lower standards for what they keep their
cars to. If anybody's got a small dink
in the UK, it's almost immediately taken
to the
taken to the
You're always complaining about it as
well. I know. It's terrible. But you
take it to the like shop or whatever and
you get it fixed. Most people would. Uh
Indeed. I need to get my dink fixed
actually. Yeah. Come out of an XL. Make
it bigger.
Black XL. Uh I think I think it's a I
mean you you've you've been a a big
proponent of that as well. Like using
Uber Black XL.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I think um
This is a high brow income In in Dubai,
for example, all the Ubers are
essentially Lexuses. They're all
beautiful. It's only when I uh was in
the UK or the US experiencing Uber do
you realize sometimes you could be going
70 mph and it's more dangerous to be out
the car than in the car. Right. Yeah,
cuz I in Dubai, if you like I was always
like a Mercedes Vito
person in a suit.
So but is that that's just a Dubai
thing? Yeah. Right. Yeah. I've had some
shockers when I In one I had in Munich
where he just went rogue. When was
trying to go to the petrol station was
going like different stop offs was like
was texting and then when I had I said,
"Hey,
can you not text on your phone?" He just
threw his phone against the window and
then just started speeding faster and
faster.
Wow. And I thought he should have paid
the 20%.
was trading? Or was it he was trying to
show you a video?
Yeah. So we were in one Uber.
We're on a huge highway and I'm at the
back. And I just go, "What's he doing on
his phone?" Cuz sometimes he may be
doing a WhatsApp or anything like that.
And I look and he was There was like
trading charts on and he was shorting
the Japanese yen. Nice. Like mid
mid drive and I said, "What What are you
doing?" Um so yeah, you may face them
shorting the Japanese yen. I had a Uber
driver in Croatia who had like a like
mini seizures while driving.
And I couldn't work out whether it was
like just something that happened to him
all the time or whether it was serious.
But he was like
having a seizure and like pressing the
accelerator. As he's having a seizure.
So we were like we were coming up
towards traffic and it the car would
like lurch
and then brake. But he just didn't
acknowledge it.
At all. You
He's the opposite of the of the guy that
we had in Iceland. So driving back the
final the final coach out of the Blue
Lagoon in Iceland because the
alternative was to stay there for nine
and a half thousand pounds for the night
and some hurricane level winds were
coming in and we managed to make it onto
this bus and we're at the back of the
bus and it's tilting up onto what feels
like just its side wheels because of the
strength of the breeze coming along.
Johnny solution, which was [ __ ]
genius actually at the time, was, "I'm
going to go up to the front and look at
the bus driver and if he's not
concerned, we shouldn't be concerned."
And he went
Hands at the bottom of the wheel.
Cuz for him it's just
Chin retracted.
For him it's just Wednesday afternoon.
Another day, another day graph. It was
the worst storm that Iceland had seen in
several years as well.
The that guy is
a source of inspiration to Yeah, he's
Jocko or Jocko as a bus driver. All
right, you're up. I'm coming in hard.
So
Like Lily Phillips.
Jesus Christ. Um
the
Kale algorithm.
So this is a custom built life hack
which I'll I can put in the comment
section. But me and Chris have had these
debates for years that whether the
platforms will ever change so you have
control over your own algorithm. And
I've been convinced it's going to
happen. But I kind of sat there waiting
for years for it to happen.
And particularly my I don't know where
your weakness is where your Achilles
heel is in terms of digital platforms.
Mine is YouTube by far. And the most
frustrating thing is
YouTube is the library of Alexandria.
You have all the world's knowledge.
And if like Marcus Aurelius, Julius
Caesar would trade everything to have
access not only to the best library, but
then it turned into this magical video
format where you can watch anything.
Learn teach yourself anything. And every
day I would turn up to that library and
I'd get distracted by fights and
fentanyl in the car park, right?
That was my YouTube experience. Oh, oh,
Logan Paul's done what?
Coffeezilla's going to expose him for
what shitcoin. Click. Click.
And I remember once um I went on the And
this is a If you want to stare into the
abyss and have the abyss stare back into
you,
go youtube.com and press history and
just scroll through some of the things
that you've watched.
And I went through quickly like the the
last maybe 100 videos I've watched and
about 80% of them were regrettable in
hindsight. So I had the best library of
all time and I was watching absolute
[ __ ] So what was interesting though, I
looked at the videos I did enjoy and the
videos that I didn't enjoy in hindsight.
And you could have built this whole
complex algorithm, but there was one
simple thing that the videos I did enjoy
and didn't enjoy had between them. And
it was
over 30 minutes long.
Any video that seemed to be over 30
minutes long for the most part I enjoyed
in hindsight and any video under 30
minutes long I for the most part didn't
enjoy. And I think there's something
about the monkey brain that if you see a
15-minute exposé on Logan Paul's new NFT
debacle, it's like, "Oh, I can do that."
But if it's a 2 and 1/2 hour one,
it's a bit harder a bit more discerning.
It's a bit harder to justify. So is the
conclusion to watch like 45 minute
fentanyl in the car park?
Don't waste more time. So the conclusion
I did I tried that, but the problem is
you go on youtube.com
thumbnail
Mhm.
title. You just don't have the
willpower. Um Like imagine if you had a
social media feed, right? And they just
showed you porn.
Like constantly. You would end up
watching a lot more porn as a result. So
it's not necessarily about discipline.
It's about
preventing that coming on in the first
place. So what I built was I built a
script that removes any videos under 30
minutes.
And it's now the full Kale algorithm and
I've gone from about 80% of my YouTube
time I regret to 80% of my YouTube time
is now enjoyable. What's the script
running on?
So you want to download a Chrome
extension called Tampermonkey. Oh. And
then
I've Okay. Sorry, go ahead. I've got a
couple of things I want to challenge you
on about this. But the beanie. So you
then I built the code using Claude or
ChatGPT and I can share the code with
people. You put it in and it's
permanently there now. So I no longer
see any video under 30 minutes long and
you go on my my feed now and it's just
like
Gletcher, stand-up comedian, cool
documentary.
Does that not mean though that you waste
more time?
Because the regret is about the video,
but there's no regret about how long you
spent watching the video.
No, because well there's a I'm sure if
you looked at your YouTube time, right?
There's a difference in quality of
things that you watch. Yeah, but usually
I'm doing it instead of doing something
else.
So it's it's rare that I like find
myself on my phone and then a 30 minutes
later I'm like, "Oh, I'm so glad I
watched that." But that might be because
of this exact thing. But that assumes
that the thing that I was I wasn't doing
because of YouTube wasn't more
important. That's fair. There's always
some kind of opportunity cost trade-off.
But for me, so this is particularly on
desktop and I would use YouTube end of
the day as an alternative to TV. I think
that's where versus Yeah, I agree.
Right. The kind of two-minute quick
scroll is is different. That's the
cocaine algorithm. Yeah, yeah.
There's a couple of ways you can get one
step upstream of that. So there's a
native thing on YouTube where you you
disable the
It might be watch history or one of
these features where it means that when
you log onto YouTube it's just a blank
screen. You just have the search bar.
You've done that one. I've done the
protein one. And now I never
procrastinate with YouTube. Like it just
doesn't cuz you have to then actively
like, "Oh, what am I going to search
for?" Rather than having stuff like
pushed onto you. The problem with that
though is there's still value I find in
the algorithm's serving me randomness
and optionality.
Okay. So you want you want the upside of
the Yes. I want the upside of the
randomness and the optionality without
Logan Paul.
case, you're trying to like fine-tune
it. The other thing that you can do is
And I think we talked about this last
year using Readwise or Reader
to
establish that past George is the only
one who can determine what current
George is going to watch.
So you're not allowed to consume any
media unless it's on your
to read list or to watch list. And
you've made that decision ahead of time.
So that you've made the decision when
you're in a position of strength, not
when you're like, "Oh, I'm not getting
this. It's 9:00 p.m. and I just want to
Just to find a potential problem with
that. A lot of the time, you know how in
3 months I'm going to have all of this
white space on my calendar, I'll agree
to that. I I really want to watch this
thing. I'm sure that me tomorrow will
want to watch it. I'm not convinced that
me yesterday is the best Yeah, so you'll
end up with like
adjudicator of actually what I want to
watch today.
So the problem there is you end up with
like a huge queue of stuff and then you
either
None of which you think is interesting,
but because you now don't have to pay
the price, you tomorrow has to consume
it. You kick the can down the road. Or
you watch the relevant things. Looking
in the fridge and you're like, "I've got
I've got no food in the house at all."
And actually like there's loads of food,
but it's like lettuce and a bit of Not
stuff you want.
tomato and yeah. You basically want an
algorithm that's working nearer towards
what your goals are and your long-term
intents are. But it's not just purely
like boring educational [ __ ] Like if
there's like long-form comedy on there
like long-form comedy podcasts. I enjoy
those way more. But there's something
about the the shortness of it. And I
think having that pre-built in to remove
it, my sister, little life hack to this,
um is also on email, if anybody has um
but just set up a filter that if it has
unsubscribe in the email, it goes to a
separate inbox. And then you scroll
through that and you've reduced about
80% of your email clutter. So, just
putting those systems in place
that now.
is um is useful. Gmail has that
automatically, doesn't it? Hm? Gmail has
that automatically with the promotions.
It
It does but I still get a few of them.
Loads of them still slip through, yeah.
All right, Johnny, you're up.
This is linked to what you were just
saying, Chris, about um waking up at
night. Yeah. The
So, there's two two hacks in one. One is
um
Audible on a So, eye mask,
one AirPod, Mhm. 30-minute timer on
Audible, audiobook. It's life hack one.
Life hack two is Audible have like
similar to a Netflix original, like an
Audible original. Some of them are in
Dolby Atmos. So, it's like a film being
read out, which is the most immersive
thing I've ever heard on Audible.
How immersive can it be with one AirPod,
then? Well, cuz the other one's other
one's pressed. Do you find that you turn
that you you're you can just
go full
like monk mode and stay there? Cuz I'm a
Even if you roll over, though. Even if
Even if you roll over, it's just one
AirPod, it's fine. You're asleep. It
doesn't matter.
The third life hack Mhm. is Red Rising,
the Red Rising series.
But the Um immersive audio version.
Phenomenal. So good. So [ __ ] fun. So,
that's Red Rising?
It's a series by Pierce Brown. Pierce
Brown. Um
Sci-fi sci-fi series, the most addictive
set of novels, but they'd redone it as a
movie in your mind. Mhm. And uh Yeah.
Yeah.
Helps you get to sleep.
Dolby Atmos, full audio cast. You know,
they're not just saying what's going on
back and forth to each other. They're
fully acting it out. The sound effects.
Yeah. Beautifully soundscaped. It's
awesome. It's brilliant.
I'm glad I'm glad you like it. So, that
to fall asleep. And if you wake up at
night, like stick an AirPod in. I'm just
cuz you just immediately, especially
with racing thoughts, you're just
immediately in another world.
Manta eye masks make a Bluetooth eye
mask.
Do they? That is built for you to
for to sleep on. I have I have a pair of
headphones called like Philips
something. They're like called Sleep
Snoozies or some [ __ ] They're just not
very good. Well, they're just not
AirPods, are they? Yeah. Just one AirPod
in. Like cuz you can have you can have
your head against the pillow with the
side with the AirPod in. Still doesn't
wake you up.
Hm. Uh I worry a little bit about like
what it's doing to me.
It's the sort of thing I think Yusef
would worry me about if I spoke to him
about it too much.
Oh, but it's non-ionizing radiation.
Like, is that AirPod talking to the
AirPod that's over there and like
cooking my brain in the process?
And there was a Chernobyl ear. Yeah.
Yeah, but I mean, it's already going
through I mean But I've only got one in.
So, is that okay? I don't know. Who
knows?
Is it okay? Am I Would I be I'm less
concerned about Bluetooth earphone as
far as like EMF exposure. I think there
are other things Somebody shared an an
AirPod thing where it was like the
communication between one AirPod and
another. It's going to travel through
your head. Yeah, but I think like But as
medical advice, you're saying that's
fine. The problem is it's you've got to
pick your battles, haven't you? It's
like air quality, water quality, plastic
exposures, you know, it's like receipts.
So, for me, it's like don't microwave
plastic and don't be an idiot.
Drive with your Drive with your seatbelt
on. Drive with your seatbelt on and get
any dinks in your car. Yeah, sort it
first. Straight away. I like that. Just
to add another one on there from
life hacks 4 years ago, uh you can bulk
buy your Audible every year.
Can you?
So, you don't need to pay monthly. You
can pay yearly, annual, and you'll get
all of your credits up front. And it's
cheaper.
That's brilliant. Is that Was that a
life hack?
I should really pay more attention. It's
we've just done a lot. I mean, I I
reckon we've done a thousand life hacks.
That's like top tier, though. But you'll
save You'll save money by You'll save
probably 30 or 40% and you get all of
your credits immediately. So, you don't
have to wait until next month if you've
got a bunch of book or you're on holiday
and you want to download four, you've
got all of your credits for the next 12
months ready to go. Does Red Rising stop
being good? Cuz there's like there's
several books, right? Uh I'm on book
six or seven now. I can't remember which
one it is. And I'm still going. Everyone
I know that I've bought Yep. Same
protagonist. Wow. And everyone that I
know that's gone to it is
I think it I think it crossed a point of
like when they're in the mine at the
beginning, I might say a little bit bit
a little bit dull. As soon as you get
out And then he's out and he's oh my
god, this is you can see how it's just
this world. Uh book two and book three
are just obsessive. So,
uh Red Rising. You should go and
download it even if you don't get the
graphic audio, whatever it's called.
Fiction As a good rule of thumb, fiction
before bed
is amazing for It's kind of like that
mind off thing, right? Out of your own
head, you're not thinking about your
problems. Good. Very good. All right,
Seth.
There's the heuristic of what can I
remove, you know, so
delete, automate, then delegate.
But there's also
what am I already doing or using that I
could be using better? So, a few
examples would be like I'm already
spending the time meditating in the
mornings. Like, how can I make that time
more effective? Or I'm already sleeping
7 hours a night. How can I improve the
quality of that?
Um I'm already you know, you everyone's
seen someone exercising in the gym like
every time you go to the gym and they're
there and they're just kind of like and
they're like texting and just swinging
their arms around, not really doing
anything. You're like they're
taking all of the steps to get the
result, but
wasting the actual critical time in
there.
But this also applies to
um the decision of like do I add
something or do I just make what I'm
already doing better? Take get more use
out of that. Squeeze the lemon. So,
rather than adding in like a
a red light box and an additional
supplements and all this kind of stuff,
it's like, well, what am I doing
already?
We often get clients that ask us like,
oh, what's a good bit of software for
this or what's a good software for this?
And you're like, well, what are you
already using? And you like 80% of the
time, the software stack that they're
already using does the thing that
they're looking for, but they're just
looking for the next thing.
And so,
I'm always
on about Tictic, but like the deeper I
go with it, the more I'm like, oh,
actually like there's no point looking
for any other app to solve any of these
other problems because if you just
really like dive into Tictic. And now my
my referral
um
my referrals are so much that I've got
an account until like 2067 or something.
Um so, now I'm just like lifetime
believer of Tictic. Um so, yeah.
Like and as I've applied this in the
last few weeks,
whenever I've like found myself trying
to solve a problem, I always take a
pause and go, hang on. What in what we
already have, what software we're
already paying for, what tools we
already have can do the thing Have you
got another example?
So,
this is a niche one, but we were looking
for a way to convert Twitter threads or
X threads into carousels. And I was
looking at new bits of software and I
was like, actually like we already use
Hypefury for scheduling tweets and they
have a built-in thing for this.
But I think it's just the natural habit
of like, oh, what's the shiny new thing.
Shiny new thing.
Something something new to solve this
problem as opposed to looking where you
already are. What's your what's your one
of um you don't need new lessons? You
need to relearn your old ones. Yeah. I
mean, most of the stuff that you already
most of the answers to problems you have
now you already know and you probably
learned 5 years ago. So, the ironically,
we were talking about this just before
the episode and last year on this
episode that life is a spiral
curriculum. And that you look back on
your Yeah, you look on your journals
from when you were like 19 and even you
think was your 19 like idiot self was
still telling you the same thing that
you need
same problems, isn't it? Same problems
over and over. The day one feature of
like today, a year ago, 5 years ago, 10
years ago and you're writing about the
same [ __ ] Well, you're the same
person, that's why. Like, the common
thread between all of that is you. And
lots of stuff changes on the surface,
but fundamentally the same challenges
that you have, the same emotions that
come up, the same worries and concerns
you do. You go, oh my god, so much has
changed in life, you know, I'm a dad
now, I'm in a different country now, I'm
in a different career now, whatever it
might be. And you go, you
you're still the same person.
Mhm. So,
uh all right, my next one. Uh one that
we've done a long, long time ago, but
continues to pay huge dividends. Clip
the curtains together in hotel rooms
using the trouser hanger.
I challenge anybody
to take me on with that. You get into a
hotel room and these curtains for no
reason have got, you know, a 3-in or a
2-in gap between them and you try to
sort of do that weird thing where you
push them Hm.
and see and then they sort of settle and
they settle a bit better sometimes and
you're like, oh, is that good? Should I
leave it? And you go, I'm going to go
again. You do it and it's further apart
and you're like, [ __ ]
Uh
set of trouser hangers from the
uh wardrobe. Pin it at the top. If
you've got two trouser hangers, one, two
and then three, four at the bottom.
Pitch black. Beautiful. Why not just
wear an eye mask?
Uh
you could, but sometimes even with an
eye mask, you're rolling around, it
comes off
It's just I think you should always
optimize for environment first and then
and then other stuff second.
Technically, the light receptors on the
skin will also expose you. I think about
it all the time.
The back of your knee can actually wake
you up. So, that's that. And then I
guess the other one, which is related to
sleep. I spent a lot of time on the road
again this year, lot of time in hotels.
Um
good pillow, bad bed, good night's
sleep. Bad pillow, good bed, bad night's
sleep. Basically, the pillow is the most
important thing.
Pillow is the most important thing uh
because it's the the most sort of
uh
obvious experience of you interacting
with the bed is whether or not it's this
sort of
No, one of those ones that [ __ ] yeah,
Seth. Yeah.
I'm [ __ ] sleeping or drowning here.
And uh yeah, that's it. Pin the curtains
together in a hotel bedroom and optimize
for
uh better pillows. And the way you can
do that, what you want to do, is find
what pillow do you like and then how
available is it on Amazon Prime
worldwide.
And then if you can find one that you
like that's available like that and it
isn't an insane price, you can add, you
know, 25 pounds or whatever onto a stay,
but improve your sleep quality by maybe
30 minutes or an hour a night by just
ordering a pillow to the hotel. So you
get in, you're like, "Ah, [ __ ] it's one
of the ones."
Get the order done. Next day, get a good
night's sleep. There's a Kelly Starrett
thing, like piece of advice from years
ago where if you lie on the mattress and
you bend one leg,
the mattress is the wrong
like level of
turgidity.
So like if you let's say you're going
into extension, so you bend you bend one
leg to get out of extension. And I think
that's if the mattress is too hard.
Mhm. That That's the thing. So with the
pillow versus mattress thing, I could
sleep with no pillow, but if the
mattress is bad, I wake up and I'm like
tired head to type. More Kelly Starrett
hack with pillows has changed my life as
Wow. It ruined me life.
Using the towel roll? I think it's from
a It'll be from like a 2017 life hacks
or something. It's back when it was like
phone video Kelly Starrett on YouTube.
the towel roll thing? That That's and
it's it's lying like it's it's like
tucking your shoulder back and then the
towel sits here. And then you
everything's in line. I followed that,
but I just put another pillow in between
the two top arms. So the pillows are
crossed. Yes. So one's behind my head
and then I turn over to like spoon
Make shift pregnancy pillow. But it's
not for the legs because I found that if
I had one Too hot.
It just disrup- If you've got You've got
to do this Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, you
know, like sweep the legs and then pull
it up and over. If anyone that uses a
pregnancy pillow consistently, very
impressive, but you can't move side to
side. So normal pillow.
Gee, what you got?
My one um relates to you mentioned then
being on the road. Um big thing for
myself this year again, don't have an
office, I'm often working from hotels,
coffee shops and things like that.
And the combination of the Boyata
portable laptop stand with the Apple
Magic Keyboard and the Apple Magic
Mouse. So a few points on this.
Number one,
this is a bit Tony Robbins, but my kind
of contrarian take on the world right
now, if I sit in that Peter Thiel
interview, one of my contrarian takes
that I give
is
is that
It's very on brand, Chris. Very good.
Um
the contrarian take right now is if you
had to picture a depressed person's body
language in your head, what do they look
like?
Slouched over.
Real contrarian.
Yeah, slouched over, hunched. Where's
their eyes? Down. Down.
And people are spending 8 to 10 hours a
day like that, whether it's on their
laptop or on their phone. So the Boyata
stand means that the laptop's raised
like perfectly in front of you like
that. Your shoulders are back on the
mouse.
And you go once you go to that, you
can't go back. And you look at everybody
else and you go, "How are you spending 2
hours in this depressed posture?" It's
like we've spoken about this previously
that I think a a non-sig- or a a
significant amount of people being uh
miserable is just being in resting
serious face versus resting smile face.
I thought about that. And resting
serious body. So I I presented at the
International Posture Summit, believe it
or not. Here we go. Come right and up
next to me in the urinal there and come
on. You seen this? Uh no. Been in Lily
films. Well, so this is uh
there is a study that shows that your
posture impacts how much you believe
your own thoughts, which is interesting.
So like not so much mood and you know
power pose and testosterone cortisol
ratios kind of been difficult to to re
um reproduce in the results, but
believing your own thoughts. So if you
sat up
burrata stand. What did you call it?
Boyata. Boyata. It's a type of cheese in
it, burrata. Yeah. I've got a couple of
Delicious. So yeah. But my my um take
with that is you've seen the um is it
Jonathan Haidt who did the whole anxious
mind? He says since 2008 anxiety's gone
through the roof and it lines up with
social media. Obviously that's I think
had a factor, but that's well discussed.
However, it also lines up with
everyone's head being down, their eyes
being down and their shoulders hunched
over. posture killed.
No, I'm a I'm a big fan of it. I will
say your the height that you have it at
and the closeness that you have your
laptop to yourself, I would come down
the stairs when we were both living in
the Colton house in Austin and you don't
see a person.
What you see
What you see is this massive MacBook
like this and because it's spread out as
well, it's covering his entire body and
then this just a set of AirPod Pro Maxes
poking out the top. You're like, "Oh,
George is behind there somewhere." It's
terrible for day game. If you want to If
you want to pick up girls at the coffee
shop, You can't do any kino escalations.
It's good for network The amount of
people go
he must be hardcore. What does he do?
He's I've seen him while he's reading
David Deutsch's The Beginning of
Infinity with ChatGPT open again.
[ __ ] All right, uh should we do a
lesson?
Oh god. Bring it on. Do a lesson. Oh my
god. Yes. Fine.
Are we out of hacks now? No, we can go
back. Okay, so I've got two micro hacks,
but Do you want to do one more round of
I'll fire some in.
Do you want to do one more round of I
can do another hack. Absolutely. Let's
do another round of hacks. I know that I
had another hack chambered ready to go.
Fire it. But now it's made me question
my hack that I picked. Don't worry.
I am worrying though.
I'm going to say
walking pad.
Have we done that before? Walking pad.
Walking pad.
It's like a under desk treadmill. I
think both just like Yeah, exactly. So
you need a standing desk and then it's a
treadmill that's like you can't run on.
I mean I've never tried,
but it says don't run on it. So I figure
like probably best to listen. Is that
why you stopped running? Exactly. Yeah,
but they just that as a way of you just
do like 2 hours of work while on that.
You forget that you're on it.
And you I think it's like
2,000 steps every like maybe 4,000 steps
an hour.
Can't be 4,000 an hour. Why? Oh no, no,
it could be. Yeah, you don't know. At
that pace? Yeah, probably about 4,000 an
hour. Cuz you thought that was too many.
I originally, but now I've repurposed.
Realized you're wrong. Yeah, I am.
Walking pad. And what kind of pace? Cuz
do you ever get to a pace where you're
going too fast and you can't You can't
type correctly. Yeah, the classic type A
problem. Then you're like, "All I'm
doing now is walking." Looking at my
screen. Trying not to
just slightly miss the walking pad and
walk into the computer.
What what types of work A sorry, what
speed have you found useful and then
what types of work have you found
3.5. 3.5. What's that? Miles?
Kilometers? It's just what it says on
the screen.
You've both got the same one. Right. I
think we might have the similar one. We
have the same one.
Right, but your legs are longer.
Doesn't matter.
I would imagine you walk quicker than
these two. Does that matter?
Then you would We're talking about
preferences here. Uh-huh. But you
actually mean that they're walking a
little bit more quickly than you.
was what speed have you found All they
You all like the same speed. Don't ask
me my preference and then tell me that
I'm wrong. Litigate me out of it here.
Tie me up. So yeah, 3.5. Next question.
What type of work?
Uh
so you would think
it needs to be like email or but it can
be anything.
It I think it just helps. You just
drop into whatever you're doing. Mhm.
What does that Kelly Starrett thing
about when you're on when you're on a
phone call that's getting intense, you
stand up and start walking around cuz
we're meant to locomote while we think.
I'm I'm picturing you Alan Partridge
style with like a Bluetooth headset on,
short shorts going 100k or it's going to
sky.
I once heard a story of um you know, so
Ari Emanuel it's
You can't sue him. Okay, it's not that
bad. Um Ari Emanuel who Ari Gold was
based off on Entourage. So they own the
UFC, WWE.
He's like the apex lawyer um in America
for entertainment.
And he's heavily dyslexic, so he just
spends all day on the phone rather than
doing uh anything that would uh
use dyslexia, I guess.
And I knew somebody who was in the
office walking past his room and he's on
a full incline treadmill
with like speaker on just saying, "Fuck
him [ __ ] him for another a million. [ __ ]
him for another million.
We're not moving till we [ __ ] him for
another million." That's the gateway
drug, isn't it? He's gradually stepping
That's what you're going to be 12 months
time. I'll be on my one of those. A um
Constrainer [ __ ] people for a
million. A
uh sis- sister to your one is I found
when I was in America cuz of the time
zones reversed, I'd wake up at 6:00 a.m.
and you've already got so many bits of
work that you have to do. So you have
such a high cortisol state going on my
phone
incline treadmill and then just walking
for the first 30 minutes replying to
messages and emails meant that the
cortisol in the morning is then getting
counterbalanced by the incline
treadmill. Yeah. I knew a guy who You've
met him actually, who would do cardio
and just have TikTok on like auto play
because he said it made 45 minutes just
which is probably terrible for your
brain, but You're only allowing social
Only allowing social media usage when
you're doing incline cardio is actually
That's not bad.
But but like purposefully doing social
media usage because you're on incline
cardio feels like You end up fitter, but
also a bit Yeah. tweaked. Do you find
cuz Steve Jobs famously used to only do
walking meetings or a lot of walking
meetings? Have you found doing it for
meetings useful?
Or do you not want to be that guy? I
mean Johnny used to try and record
podcasts whilst going on So I was going
to say that.
It's not really the audience to say
like, "Well, I think I did better
podcasting cuz Chris is quite good at
podcasting." But I think it's you could
produce a better podcast while walking
apart from the Apart from the sound. But
who cares about the sound? Yeah. I
Meetings are the only thing I would
struggle with.
For some reason. I think because you
just feel like
you know, I'm that I'm that guy walking
on the meeting. It very much depends
what
sort of a meeting it is as well. And
like if it's if it's you just okay, you
like recap me on this way it's you and
it's kind of sort of standard stuff.
Okay, like here we go. I'll have a
little plod.
And if it's a really serious meeting and
you're the only one walking and you're
the one being recorded. the art of like
perfectly level walking so you only your
legs are moving but you're just Squat
jog.
I think you'd have a little bit of
shift. Mhm. Uh what brand did you go
for?
Don't know.
But I do know it's out of stock. But if
you go on Amazon
That's two great things.
go on Amazon but they they they cancel
each other out, don't they? It doesn't
matter.
If you go on Amazon and search walking
pad
walking pad Pretty much any of them.
They range from
I think You tried to find like a bean
one, didn't you? For like 50, 60 quid.
Up to Like whatever you want to 300
quid, 200, 300 quid get you a good one.
Mhm.
All right, Saf, you're up.
Great product promo there.
Well, I don't know. Don't know Don't
know what it is. And they can range from
Well, yeah. 50 quid maybe.
So this is also the springboard off your
and your hack which is just
to only do voice notes while I'm
walking.
So it's just to get me out the house cuz
I know that if I got a desk pad it would
enable my screen time and I'll be doing
it more.
And so Dickie Bush who um Twice now.
Chris mentioned it before. Oh. There we
go. Double Dickie. So
he just said don't do any work that at
your desk that could be done walking.
And that includes like emails, voice
notes and to to be honest like most
writing now with GPT you can just dump a
bunch of words into an audio file and
I mean if you get a walking pad it's all
work. Isn't it?
It's all work but then you're just at
your desk but you're still walking.
Still in the office. What is it that
you're looking for to get outside?
outside. Have environment change. And
you can now walk with airpods in talking
to yourself and people no longer think
you're a nutter because they think you
might be on a call.
Yeah, that's not bad.
Good. All right.
Which one am I going to choose next?
Last year I said Sleep Token. This year
I'm going to say Bad Tooth and it's
going to make you very happy that I've
finally come around to listening to Bad
Tooth. Really phenomenal most recent
album they just put out the London blog.
The song at the end that we had in the
sort of the tune that was threaded
throughout. Shout out to Caleb, the
front man, who sent me the stems from
the track. So he sent me the track
broken up into its individual component
parts so we could really really dial
that in. That was very kind of him to
do. And
I just that they were my top played
track of this year. I felt like
important to give it a live a live We
had attention. Yep. Of course.
Good. Bit mincy compared but
it's all right.
No, good. That whole album's That whole
album's fantastic. It only came out in
October and I think they still managed
to get into my Spotify wrapped so
place of I'll do I'll do another one
given that that one was just music.
Mitchum deodorant.
So Luke got me onto this last year and
there is no deodorant that's anywhere
near as good. This isn't just like the
smell of it is fantastic. The price of
it's great. The quality doesn't leave
any white marks and everyone's sort of
looking for what's the best sort of
deodorant and not [ __ ] medieval
peasant. I don't use roll-on deodorant
but spray Mitchum and they also have in
every Boots of UK airports they'll have
the travel size so you can actually take
a 50 mil travel throw that in your bag.
Pretty sick. Mitchum and Bad Tooth. So
what's good about it? Smells good.
Doesn't leave any white marks and you
don't sweat. It just seems to tick all
the boxes. It's yeah. And as of yet most
of them have a lingering smell like
Dove. Dove deodorant you can smell
somebody wearing it from like [ __ ] a
few miles away and I don't like that.
It's like it's basically odorless but
does the job so
unbeatable.
Naughty. Naughty.
Speaking of naughty
my one is not naughty. It's a prompt for
AI. So either ChatGPT, Claude, whatever
your That's actually a life hack within
itself is to be an absolute LLM hall
Yeah. if you can. And
is the following prompt. So
do you know the Elon Musk quote? It's
around how to learn. It's essentially
this idea that you want to view
knowledge as a semantic tree.
So you start at the roots then you go up
to the trunk then you have the branches
then you have like the secondary
branches then you have the leaves.
Whereas often the way we'll approach
things is oh I want to learn about the
heart. I'll just put on this random
Andrew Huberman podcast with the
specialist about the heart and just kind
of hop in but you don't have any of the
roots or anything there so you never
actually retain any information. Whereas
when you treat knowledge as a semantic
tree you work all the way up from the
base and up and then all the way there.
And a big realization this year was it's
kind of a a bit of a Dutch concept but
essentially this idea that
the only thing the only bottleneck that
really exists is knowledge.
Um and then you look at okay, you have
all these great people who are
self-taught so you can just teach
yourself from Nikola Tesla to Leonardo
da Vinci. You have access to the
alphabet so you can understand any
concept with words. You have access to
numeracy which is only 10 digits but you
can access you can understand any
mathematical equation with numbers.
Therefore the only bottleneck to
literally every single thing in your
life skill is you knowledge. So placing
that into Claude or ChatGPT and you
realize I can learn anything starting
from there so you start with the you say
this specific Elon quote and you say
teach me about X but start with the
roots and then work all the way up and
don't move to the next layer until I say
I understand and you're constantly just
moving up and you realize oh I can
literally teach myself anything.
This is a nice development from your
last year's one which was
treat me like a total idiot and start at
zero until I say I understand and then
go to step one and then step two. The
step here is to really then you can then
just move it into like a mind mapping
software and literally just build the
tree yourself. Then you have that
semantic tree in your head of all the
interweaving parts. Big mistake that I
made when studying medicine was not
doing that earlier. You have to have
like a a framework or a skeleton to be
able to hang concepts on otherwise you
are just learning raw data and it's so
difficult. There's nothing connecting
and you're just memorizing like you did
at school. You're never actually
understanding. There's like a tipping
point. Like if if you just brute force
raw dog enough data eventually you'll
start to see the coalescing
parts kind of join the dots but it's not
a fun way to do it, yeah. Rough going.
Is there something you've used that for
recently?
I started yesterday with longevity. So
I'm going to cuz that's a topic that
I've always wanted to learn about but I
just kicked the can down the road
because I'm like where do I even begin?
So I started with that.
Try with any kind of topic that will
come up now I will just walk it in.
For the
LLM non-monogamous out there, what do
you use each platform for? Have you
found certain things about one certain
platform? Yeah, I mean there's a huge
asterisk here that this will be outdated
by tomorrow cuz it's constantly
literally yesterday they released a new
the new O version
and then you have X now getting the it's
like three times the number of super
computer clusters
with the Grok AI that's going to go
live. So me right now I vary between
Claude and ChatGPT but I would be
shocked if next year I'm saying the
exact same thing. Yeah, it seems like
Google is Google's great. Yeah. The Grok
The new Grok one now where you can be on
Twitter and ask Grok to explain things
to you.
Grok has way fewer bottlenecks. It's way
less politically correct as well. It has
access to Twitter's live data. It's
being updated much more quickly but it's
also being updated by people who are on
Twitter.
Highly dangerous data set that to use.
Listen.
Johnny. Listen. You got to listen? I do.
Um
So it's a reframe on hard things or a
hard thing. So I think So something that
um
I think I've been guilty of is not
necessarily thinking like when I achieve
this I'll be happy but rather like when
I achieve this problem's gone. Like
solve that thing now.
And actually
and it's it's mainly a propane thing. So
like propane's grown a lot over the last
two, three years and you always think
like we'll hit this revenue, we'll hire
this person, we'll achieve this thing
no more problems. But actually all that
happens is the new more thorny harder
problem.
And reframing that as like that is the
thing where the development that's the
development opportunity because the
next revenue level, the next the next
achievement just always just feels
exactly the same as the last one.
Doesn't matter the size of it. It's
exactly the same but the
the who you become as a result of
solving the problem at the level you're
at
that's the that's the gain.
So the phrase that I remind myself of is
for every level there's a devil.
And it's just the current just the
current devil you're facing. Um that's
cuz we've had like a very weird year in
business like a very like lots of
problems that I think we would have
never
expected. And you you're immediate
response to that is like ah
but actually if you reframe that as like
that's where the that's where the growth
is that's where the personal growth is
see it differently and it becomes almost
like
not exciting but like it's something
it's like wow there's something on the
other side of this. Mhm. So that's been
my lesson for this year.
Probably the biggest one.
I mean, it's really good. It's not too
dissimilar to what we spoke about last
year and I think what all of us are kind
of zeroing in on, which is
accepting that things are going to be
tough, but not necessarily
white-knuckling our way through it and
not assuming that there's any additional
nobility in white-knuckling it and and
trying to
increase the difficulty or sort of the
hustle porning your way through things.
It's like if there's a way that I can
make this simpler or easier.
gummy. Find Yeah, exactly. How can you
How can you have a creatine gummy for
every different thing? Mhm. And uh
Yeah, I think
assuming that one day you're going to
wake up and there'll be no problems is I
remember that I think it was Mark
Zuckerberg on maybe on Rogan where he
was like describing his morning.
Has anyone heard this?
Mhm. So like Mark's Mark Zuckerberg's
morning was like he wakes up and he goes
and surfs
because like when he looks at his phone,
it's really already [ __ ] bad news.
And I was like, well, fair like cuz like
that's my morning. Mhm. And it's like
his bad news will be all far worse than
mine.
unreads have you got currently on
Telegram?
I don't know.
I mean
day it was like 46,000. I think you're
more.
No, I think the other day it was like 1
2 3 4 for me. And I screenshotted it.
It's all particularly satisfying. On uh
this lesson, there's a
uh a beautiful Have you ever heard of
the book called The Gap and the Gain?
Benjamin Hardy. Yeah, so there's one
line in that that stuck with me and I
still think about and it's kind of a
semi life hack related to this, which is
forget your current problem, whatever it
is. Just go back to a
maybe even a more severe problem in the
past. Um whether it's girlfriend cheated
on you. Um fired from job.
Insert problem, whatever it is, right?
And you go back and go with the benefit
of hindsight now, what would have been
the worst interpretation of that
problem? It's like, okay, girlfriend
cheated on me. I'm a loser. Um I'm going
to binge a lot of food. I'm going to
write a lot of angry Facebook statuses
about her. Didn't work. Um
that's the kind of worst interpretation
of that problem. And you go, okay, well,
what was the
Now I'm detached from it. What would
have been the best interpretation of
that? It's like, okay, I'm going to book
this personal trainer for 3 months. Um
I'm going to book this trip with my
friends that I was putting off because I
was supposed to go on holiday with her.
Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. And you
look at that now in the cold light of
day and which one did you which one do
you wish that you chose? It's so
obvious. So you do that for the past
problem. And then you just go, okay, now
I'm at current problem.
What What's the current worst
interpretation of this? Da da da da.
What's the current best interpretation
of this? Da da da da.
Which one do you want to choose now?
What would you tomorrow want you today
to do?
Yes. A chocolate gummy. And then
literally do that exercise and just
refuse to get up until you've hypnotized
yourself that it's the best thing to
ever happen to you.
The
Mark Andreessen was on the show the
other week and he gave me this quote
from Sean Parker that said running a
startup is like eating glass. You just
start to like the taste of your own
blood. Mhm.
And I think that's the acceptance that
after a long enough amount of time,
problems are always going to be there.
You're not going to get to a point where
there aren't any problems. As the CEO or
founder of a business, your only job is
to work on the hardest problems. The
problems that nobody else can fix and
they always stop with you and there will
always be pressure.
Okay. The more advanced you are in any
field, in any pursuit, the problems are
worse. Aren't they? Or more Or more
complicated, more painful. Yes. And it's
it's just easier to be at the basic
level of everything.
Yeah.
So if you're going to pursue the journey
of like, well, I want to achieve the the
highest level in anything. It's like,
well, the the final level going from
level nine to level 10 is going to have
the worst problem attached to it. So
that's the price. Is that the price that
you're prepared to pay? I think there's
some truth to that, but I think that's
also the benefit of hindsight. You now
look back at level one problems as so
obvious cuz you're now a level nine
person. Yeah. But then as soon as you
get to level 29, you'll look back at
level nine in the same But that's the
thing. because the of the of the person
you become by solving these problems. So
that that's a much more succinct way of
saying what I was saying is that like
it's only it's the it's the person you
are as a on the other side of the
problem of like, wow, that was so basic
like 2 years ago. I was worrying about
this thing that's really easy now. Mhm.
Yeah, because if that challenge came
back up to you again now, It's so easy.
That's fine. No worries. Yeah, that's
very interesting.
That's cool. I like that. You did a good
one.
We didn't coordinate this, but
that you've described the irony of the
human condition Mhm. that we will always
hit the spiral curriculum and still run
into the same problems. With our
clients, we have the same thing. So we
help coaches to move online and they
often think that if I can just fix my
lead generation, then my life will be
sorted and it'll be absolutely, you
know, I've I've completed it. And then
all that happens is like very quickly
from working with us, fix fix that
problem. It's not actually that hard a
problem to solve. But then they end up
with the sales bottleneck. And then they
fix that and they end up with the
fulfillment bottleneck. And then they
fix that and they end up with an
operational bottleneck. And they're
like, oh, actually like life isn't just
sunshine and rainbows after this one
thing that I can solve.
So for me, very similar lesson, which
was we are the ones that define success
in our lives.
And
yet for some reason we have a desire. We
close the gap somehow by fulfilling the
desire. And then we move the goalposts
and then we keep doing that. And we're
like, oh, why am I perpetually
dissatisfied? And hearing your podcast
with uh Andrew Wilkinson, the
billionaire, who's just like his main
conclusion from becoming a billionaire
is I'm still the same like miserable,
dissatisfied person I've ever been, but
with more money. And it's like it takes
somebody who's actually like smashed
that particular stream to be like, uh
maybe the answers aren't hiding behind
more money or whatever. And so
ultimately
we
defer gratification
for or or we feel like we're
suffering the most in the thing that
we're most deficient in. whether it's
money or time or friendships or
whatever, that's like the thing which is
like the the alligator at the boat. And
whoever has something like that, it's
like the drowning man wanting air. They
feel like that is the thing which if
they solve it, life would be complete.
So like
incel forums, they're obsessed with
like, if I could just get a girlfriend,
then I'd be totally fine.
And the weird thing about all of this, I
think when I kind of reflect on this, is
that
the the domains of life that we have
sorted, and most of us like watching
this, you know, you if you're watching
this, you hopefully you're healthy. You
have access to being outside. You're not
in prison.
central heating, like all this stuff
like
physical health and time and family and
sun and all that stuff is just
fully available in abundance, but
I need another
two grand. Or I need another whatever.
And so
um
the I guess the lesson is to stop moving
the goalposts. Or if you do, recognize
that it's just a game that we're
playing, but you can still
recognize that you are happy right now
and all that suffering of the gap is
just caused by the mind.
So Felix Dennis has a book called How to
Get Rich, which is he's he's made it
really like distasteful in the way that
it's branded and stuff and he's sat
there like like a maniacal like monocle
and uh
you know, the kind of um because
he's trying to paint this picture that
you are
um
you set that as the goal. And he says,
I'm writing this at the age of 83.
And if you're reading this book, I would
swap places with you in a heartbeat
because you have the one thing that I
don't, which is time. And I've made my
300 million dollars or whatever to then
go and sit in a wood cabin and write
poetry.
And I could have done that at 30. Mhm.
Yeah.
I had that uh realization. It's kind of
like a a nice meme, but you're already a
billionaire just in a illiquid asset,
which is your health. Because any
billionaire and there'll be a lot out
there right now or centimillionaires
that are on their deathbed would give
everything for your health. Therefore,
yes, you can't
uh liquidize it yet. Maybe you will be
in the future. Mhm. But illiquid wealth,
you're already a billionaire, which is a
wild thought. The
insight around the thing that you desire
most is the thing that you assume will
fix all of your problems. Uh I came up
with this idea the other day of
unteachable lessons. And I think one of
the unteachable lessons is money and
fame won't fix all of the problems that
you have in life because for the total
addressable market for more fame and
more money is basically everybody. And
Yeah. And Andrew Wilkinson is a
billionaire coming on. It's so done It's
so done when he even comes on, there's a
bit of me that thinks we can't go down
that road because I know of the antibody
response system on the internet. I also
know that it just doesn't it seems to
not land and maybe it wouldn't have
landed with me and it probably still
doesn't land with me.
does. It's It's as Frankl says, it's one
of the three insatiable desires, money,
sex, and power. Mhm. And you can keep
chasing them. I mean, Wilkinson was
talking about his mate who was like a
multi-billionaire
and was like, oh, but Jeff, he's like
really rich though, isn't he?
And he was like, but what can Jeff
afford that you can't? And you're like,
oh, super yacht.
Right. Okay, so
Yeah. Was it you Was it Who was it that
taught us that lesson about how when you
ask people what they want their uh
annual income to be,
it's always the same.
Yeah, yeah. Do you want to tell that
story? Can you remember it?
Yeah, essentially whenever you ask
somebody what would be your kind of goal
income where you would stop and relax a
bit more, it's basically always 2.5 to
3x where you are right now. And then as
soon as you hit that, it just Rebase by
30%. Rebase by 3x.
Yeah, it's so funny. That thing going
around social media where they they ask
someone like you can I'll give you 10
million, but you can't wake up tomorrow.
Would you accept? Or like would you
would you want 10 million? Everyone
goes, yes, yes. But then you can have 10
million, but you don't wake up in the
morning. Do you still want the 10
million? And everyone goes, oh, no.
As he's saying, well, waking up tomorrow
is worth more than 10 million. Mhm. And
people go,
But like if you really think about that,
it's it is like, oh, right. So
the the most valuable thing is the thing
that I take for granted every single
day,
which is I suppose that it's the youth.
It's like the future that you have ahead
of you. But you you ignore that. But a
lot of that's a lot of that as well is
framing because you can't cash the
future in right now. Like the fact that
nothing is promised beyond just this
moment right now. And sure, your felt
sense of it as you're older, maybe you
can do less. There's less you can do
with this moment right now. But tomorrow
at 80 and tomorrow right now are the
exact same amount of time. Uh so, beyond
the health impact of it, there is no
difference. The only thing is Do you
remember when you used to go back to
school? Or a Monday for me is a good
example on a Monday. For me, I go to bed
on a Sunday night. I reliably have good
sleep and I'm fired up for a Monday cuz
it feels like the whole week is ahead of
me. But I get to sort of a a Friday or a
Saturday and I have this sort of
retrospective energy to me where I'm
thinking about the week. And then it
gets to Monday morning again and I'm
sort of excited. And it almost feels
like that but with age. It's like
there's no real reason if you can do the
full non-dual [ __ ] attachment thing.
There's no reason why a day now and a
day in 20 years time is worth any more
or any less. In fact, you should What?
We do it at all time frames, don't we?
Cuz I'm sure in our 20s we were like,
"Oh, but the 30s are and then the the
40s." It's the same.
point it's going to flip, right? At some
point it's going to be like, "Oh, but if
you're not careful about it, that you're
going to get older and start thinking
wistfully about what was behind, not
hopefully about what's to come." Is it
not multiplied by like physical ability?
By a a big margin. Like enjoying
anything is magnified when you can walk.
There's no pain. No. You're fully
mobile.
All right, my first one. Uh that was
[ __ ] awesome. That was a good one,
too. Um
uh this again from your birthday, uh
outcomes matter more than inputs.
Uh
you've been on this flex for quite a
while. It's not too dissimilar to I look
for efficiency over I look for
effectiveness over efficiency.
Um but outcomes matter more than inputs
a lot of the time, especially as you get
sort of further into black belt
territory under productivity bro
optimization world, you do this sort of
weird rain dance, this sort of
productivity rain dance of lots of
things that maybe you needed them
previously or maybe they never served
you or maybe they did serve you but they
don't serve you now. Uh but you keep
doing them. You have these sort of odd
uh attachments to ways of working and
things that you do or members of staff
or systems or processes or or whatever
it is. And uh
what's that quote about people working
so hard and achieving
so little? Who's that? Andy Grove. Andy
Grove, there are so many people working
so hard and achieving so little. Oh,
it's [ __ ] Is this like don't conflate
suffering with productivity? Or is it
more like don't get attached to old
systems that got you to where you are.
The suffering The suffering thing is is
probably a part of it, but this is
probably even more zoomed out than that,
which is a lot of the time people focus
on how hard I've worked during the day.
Regardless of whether it was suffering
or not, it's what I did all of this
stuff. Look at all of the effort that I
put in. He goes,
"What did you do on the back end of
that?" Because we've all had jobs,
projects, things that we needed to
finish. And the very thing that you're
putting off is the most important thing
that you're supposed to do. And you go,
"Dude, I worked all day." And you go,
"Track what you did today. You cleaned
the kitchen.
You had this huge email to write and you
clean You spent 45 minutes cleaning the
[ __ ] kitchen. Why did you do that?
Well, I worked really hard today." And
it's like, "Yes, yes, yes, but what were
you trying to achieve?" And it's also, I
think, just a reminder that
effectiveness is really the only thing
that matters. Uh you can continue to put
your foot harder and harder and harder
on the accelerator, but if you've also
got your foot on the brake or if you're
driving in the wrong direction, it kind
of doesn't matter. So,
outcomes matter more than inputs as in
a lot of the time because you're
the feedback loop on when am I going to
get the output is usually a little bit
down the line. Maybe it's going to be
tomorrow. Maybe it's going to be next
year. Maybe it's going to be in 5 years
time or whatever.
The only thing that you can uh bounce
off is inputs. How much work did I do
today? And then
for instance, you wake up on a morning
and
you're you've slept in by 3 hours and
immediately feel like a piece of [ __ ]
You think, "I'm a piece of [ __ ] because
I slept in." And you go, "Right, okay.
W- That you're looking at such a brief
window. Uh like the entirety of your
life.
But I'm in the lower quartile of the
your [ __ ] sleep regularity. Uh
the entirety of your life and you've
taken this one moment and be like, "It's
because of that one thing that I did."
It's like, "What if that allows you to
get way more out of this week?" What if
this allows you to get closer to your
goals much more quickly? Or what if this
is just something that your body needs
so that you can be happier? And then the
one way to guarantee that you won't get
the best out of this week is if you just
beat yourself up for the rest of the
day. Piece of [ __ ] There's a fun idea
here, which is
just only setting on your like to-do
list the biggest thing that you have to
do. And sometimes it might be like 10
minutes long. It might be send an email
or fire this person or put this job ad
live. And then just give yourself the
rest of the day off. I did that for a
few weeks and it was [ __ ] brilliant.
You feel brilliant. Yeah, but you also
still have it to your point, that kind
of Protestant guilt that I I need to be
working. Why you're not working? Even
though I've achieved more than I would
do by doing the most important thing,
there's then just this sense of anxious
I need to be busy. I need to be busy.
So, that's the first one. And then the
second one is um yeah, if you don't know
what the most important thing is, you've
identified what the most important thing
is. It's figuring out what the most
important thing So, it's a beautiful
loop. There's a like a really old Tim
Ferriss article about this, about like
how he stays productive. It's called
like productivity tips for depressed
people like me or something like that.
But it's there's loads of quotes in it
like doing something well doesn't make
it important, which I think about all
the time. Doing something well does does
not make it
And like being being busy is a form of
like indiscriminate action and
procrastination. Like being busy people
just don't know what to focus on. Well,
your calendar is a better indication of
your wealth than your bank account.
Yeah. And then write out The practical
thing is write out all of your to-dos.
Pick like the top three that make you
most scared. Then pick one of them and
just do it for 3 hours. Beautiful. And
that's
that's how he stays productive or
effective.
Wrestling with bears. Um
It would be on your to-do list. Fighting
an axe. Legally representing Lily
Phillips.
Jesus.
It's always the thing that makes you I
wanted it to be guy 100.
Um If you look at your to-do list and
pick the thing you're or So, the
asterisk I'd give to that, you know, you
mentioned then the one that will and
then do 3 hours on that. The key thing
there is even, you know, Elon Musk
algorithm of like question every
assumption and then simplify, simplify,
simplify. Even that I would drop off. Do
3 hours cuz it might The biggest thing
might just be I need to break up with
this person or I need to do So, just do
that thing. this flight. I just All I
need to do is Parkinson's law the
breakup out in the 3 hours longest.
Right. So, we've got
or I need to book this flight to this
location. And it might or I need to set
up this banking
you've got 3 hours blocked out, you're
definitely going to get it done, aren't
you?
True. That's it. I think that's the
point. It's like fence off. Like don't
try to be this like, "Oh, just do 10
minutes later. I'll do it." Like the
most important thing to do today is that
thing. That's what you're doing until
lunch, until it's finished.
But it's no one ever does it.
And people write too many things on
their to-do lists. Don't get them done.
And push them over to tomorrow. Do you
want me to? Kind of related to this one.
It's a it's a good it's a very cool one.
It's so funny how all of the hacks and
all of the lessons end up Yeah, we
haven't coordinated this beforehand. We
don't talk about doing it beforehand.
So, this is like a life hack {slash}
lesson. They're both both related. Um um
and I call it um turning [ __ ] into
reality.
And I'll do the exercise with you guys
now. This if only if I only did this
every day.
Whenever I've done it, I've gone,
"That's a great day." So, we start with
[ __ ]
What are your values?
Do you have any that come to mind? And
and if you don't have like I've thought
through like my values, blah blah that
[ __ ] Any values that you just
immediately come to mind of things that
you'd like to do more of, Johnny?
There's no wrong answer. Physical
challenge. Physical challenge. Yusuf.
Pass. Just come on. You Come on. Just
give me something that you value like
that you Personal gratitude. I don't
know. Yeah, gratitude. Gratitude. Okay,
cool. Adventure. Adventure. Okay. So,
you create an Apple note and you put
that value at the top. Now you have to
creatively brainstorm 10 ways you can do
that. So, for example, physical
challenge, it could be Run.
But like run 5K, right? Run 5K. Um it
could What was yours again? The
gratitude trigger. Gratitude. It could
be write a thank you letter to ABC. And
yours was Adventure. Adventure. Um it
could be message the group chat to
arrange this holiday that we've been
putting off, okay? Then you So, just
write down 10.
And then
just
go through. Do. Go through. Do. Go
through. Do. And you've taken this kind
of esoteric [ __ ] value that you've
always wanted to have
action. into from neurons to atoms.
That's very cool. The reason I struggle
with the values thing is that I think
you've got to be very cautious about
what you say are your core values. You
got to know your values. You can mix
those up. They're like Yeah, but so I
reading Patrick Lencioni recently and he
said a lot of companies will go like,
"Oh, yeah, we'll do our values
statement." And they say, "Our country
values honesty." And in And you're like,
"Okay, but unless you value honesty
above the market baseline, you don't
actually value honesty. That's not one
of your core values." Because everyone
should value honesty by
baseline. So, he's like, "The only time
you you should say you have a company
value is if you are actually like above
the market trend."
Ultimately, the only thing that matters
with values is did you do the thing?
Because even if you didn't think of the
values but you did the thing, then you
actually valued it more than saying, "I
have values." So, even there That's
unless you whip yourself into doing a
thing that you didn't want to do and
then after the fact you did
The reason why this exercise I think is
actually useful is because what ends up
happening when you do it is it's a load
of things that have been rattling around
your subconscious in the shower or
before you go to bed that begin to
percolate you know someday. And as you
guys know, as you mentioned earlier, as
you move up levels levels levels, the
thing that seems to happen is you get
way more urgent but not still important
but not super important stuff. Whereas
this is time to moving from like just
being reactive each day to being
proactive. Like for example, the
gratitude one. When would you really go
I'm going to write this thank you
letter? You might have been putting off
this thank you letter for 4 years that
would take you 10 minutes to do. But
with this and and then when you actually
reflect on the year, it's one of the few
things that you actually remember.
You've also brought yourself in
alignment with the person that you want
to be as well, which is quite a nice
side effect, too.
Exactly. And then you and then if you
can just move that to another note, you
just keep storing
storing that I am that person.
Nice. Should we do some resolutions?
Uh I basically had this idea that uh
coming up with resolutions for yourself
a lot of the time, whatever it is, by
March some ungodly percentage of people
have already stopped doing the thing
they said was the most important thing
at the start of the year.
A good part of that is maybe a habit
change or behavior change is difficult
to do, but maybe a bigger part of it is
well, they chose the wrong things. Like
the stuff that I've chosen that stuck
with me for the rest of my life and I
figured I don't think I've ever seen
anyone do this before, but what are the
highest ROI
resolutions or new habits or behavior
change things that you've done, simple
things, given that you know, this is
going out on Christmas Eve Eve and
people are going to be thinking about
it. This might actually be a nice little
finger food buffet that people could go
actually, the boy said that this one
really stuck, so I'm going to go with
that. So, have you got any?
I do. Cool.
I for the last
I didn't do it last year. I did like 3
years in a row of a version of 75 hard.
Anyone ever done that before?
Adapted 75 hard. Just because like when
you look at actually 75 hard out of the
box, there are things in it that I think
are too hard. Too hard. Too hard. Too
hard. No, just there for I think maybe
slightly destructive in some ways and
also I just don't want to do. Which ones
did you find? So, like training twice a
day every day. I don't I just don't
think there's any I don't think that I
think there's ways to to pursue that
sort of
goal without those things.
Um
It's like
drinking a gallon of water. Like A stone
of water is
seems like an arbitrary arbitrary and I
realize it's there because it's hard,
but I think the thing Like a holy war,
like the few of those.
Not for me.
The the thing that's hard about it is
you have to do the things that like the
habits you set to do for 75 days in a
row and if you miss a day, you go back
to the beginning. And I think as a like
just trying to do that, you realize how
hard that is and how many like little
[ __ ] reasons come up and how you
have to kind of like go out of your way
a lot of the time to tick off the box. I
think it's a good lesson.
Can you regale us of
our friend who set himself a target of
having a banana every day?
Yeah, I mean yeah. So, our friend Ben um
one of his things was have a banana. I
think because he'd read it was something
to do good for bowel health.
Um and he it got to like 11:00 at night.
He was staying in Cambridge, didn't have
a banana, so was driving around
Cambridge
trying to find banana. He's also like
meditated. So, one of his things when we
were doing it was meditate an hour a
day. He's meditated at a wedding before,
like gone out.
I'm I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
He he went out and sat in the car and
sat in the car
meditating in the car just to tick the
box.
I don't know it's not something to like
sustain for the rest of your life, but I
think you learn you learn something
about yourself when you're doing it.
Well, one of the problems of it is that
it doesn't agree with a varied
lifestyle. Exactly. 75 hard is brilliant
for the first sort of autistic two two
and a half months of the year. Mhm. But
as soon as you get into like wedding
season, Yeah. it's like good luck, mate.
Yeah. We have to get Like finding a
finding a banana. I you know,
me and the boys flew to Australia.
You're on a plane for 17 and a bit
hours. But where's the banana? Oh, well,
you couldn't plan the banana in advance.
You're like [ __ ] It's more that you
just you don't view any like personal
habit change or behavior change as
difficult. Okay.
been able to stick to something for 75
days without interruption,
any other change you want to make is
easy. So, it's the meta lesson, not the
individual.
It's got nothing to do with the as long
as you don't pick like ridiculously easy
things. So, you would It's you would
basically say that a good resolution is
to do some version of 75 hard, but adapt
it into stuff that you really really
value.
Yeah, and it can be anything. Like
anything you're trying to do but keep
putting off or something you're
inconsistent with, just commit to. It
also doesn't have to be 75 days, but
like committing to a period of time of
I'm not going to miss a day. I'm going
to like move heaven and earth to not
miss a day.
And you you get to the end and you're
like, oh, like what an achievement.
Anything else would be easy.
Stuff. Yeah. There's
so many adulterers and sodomites that
need stoning and if you just commit
Where's that from? I don't know. It's
the you know what it is? It's the like a
wispy memory from the guy who I think
you spoke to, Chris, who lived the Old
Testament for Oh, right.
Like what?
Jesus Christ. I would have thought I
would have heard about that. I don't
think you ever spoke to him. I don't
think I spoke to him. I think it's just
something you've read on. Old Testament
or New Testament? Those are two very
different
So, yeah, so he set himself different
challenges each year.
of a whale. Um Built a big
Just build an ark. So, he he had to
physically he had to grow out his his um
his hair and like throw pebbles at
sodomites and adulterers and yet like he
he basically he he he he he he tried to
live like to live the life of that like
verbatim for a year and then he like his
other challenge was
uh read the entire um Encyclopedia
Britannica and he said it really pissed
off his wife cuz is this ringing a bell?
No.
Like it was it was cuz he wasn't on He'd
be like, did you know that the uh
Byzantine period and she's like, oh,
stop it with your trivia. But yeah,
anyway. He did anything with that this
year? You know somebody who did like
early on? It was yeah. Early on. They
did maybe something each month for a
year, a different thing each month for a
year. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But No, but
Not the Old Testament to do with that.
No, he didn't build an ark and try and
get two two by two. Hi, it's Welcome
back to the show.
This is Today we we have a man who is a
who's looking at pebbles and an M&S
bummers.
What a derailment.
So, Old Testament.
the process that we use for goal setting
each year is stolen from Garrett J White
who probably stole it from someone else
and so on. It's got lots to do with the
Yeah. I see.
I'm a big star. Wow, interesting. So,
it's splitting your year into quarters
and then splitting that into four
domains of your life, body, being,
balance, and business or health, wealth,
love, and happiness, but I quite like
the alliteration.
And you then basically look at okay,
what's my 3-year vision?
Directionally, where do I want to go?
What's my 1-year target for that? Divide
that into quarters. What is What is each
12-week sprint look like in each of
those domains? And then how can I
do a weekly action or a daily action to
hit a weekly checkpoint to hit that
quarterly target in each domain?
And it's designed so that you're not
like blasting it, grinding your face off
with stuff. You're just turning up and
just
hitting a single each day
so that you move towards your goal and
you're fully aligned. You don't end up
out of balance with like over weighting
one domain of your life.
So, the idea is to kind of counteract
people who just like double down on
their business and they end up like
overweight, spiritually disconnected,
and divorced, and all this stuff, but
they they got the million. And so,
that framework's been really helpful for
me.
Um it also gives me one thing to focus
on in each domain.
Um
The other the other big
thing that's had the most impact,
I think, is single tasking.
For years, I drank the Kool-Aid that I
can multitask and that because I've got
like Alfred installed and keyboard
shortcuts, whatever, I can just like
flip between windows and tabs and it
feels more productive cuz your brain's
like
whoosh, like oh, great, there's loads of
like things happening.
But the quality of that work, the
attention residue, all of that stuff
isn't worth it.
And so, like you said about deciding
what's the key thing this morning and
just blast 3 hours on it, blinkers on,
noise canceling headphones, whatever,
and just do that one thing.
Um and then to create a loop a feedback
loop with that, you have something that
is a visual or a tactile reminder of
this is what I'm working on right now.
And it sounds like overkill, but I think
our brains are so
like scatty that we need to just be
fully hemmed in and forced to focus on
that one thing. So, whether it's a
post-it note stuck on your monitor
or like a floating bar that you have
pinned on the top of your desktop,
whatever it is, saying you are doing
this right now and then you feel like an
absolute dingus if you go off task
because
everything's screaming like no no no.
The only reason you're here The only
reason you're here is to do that. That's
cool. I like that. So, I had two. Um I
guess you brought up sobriety, which is
one of those ones that's so sort of
taken for granted now that I've
forgotten about it. No, that that used
to be quite contrarian when you first
started it. I remember, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, it was [ __ ] crazy. Give
it 5 years, Old Testament will be right
in.
You'll get stoned.
Wow.
Um okay, so my two highest ROI
resolutions that I've done that have
stuck with me uh number one, sleep with
your phone outside of your bedroom. Uh
and number two, go for a walk first
thing in the morning. Like
I've always wondered about the phone
thing. Mhm. Is it something specifically
to do with the phone being in the
bedroom or is it just next to your bed?
Is it like the fact that it's near you
and it's emitting Yeah, I think uh No.
No. No. No. It's just being just being
so far away that you can't use it on a
night time and that it's not the first
thing that you do in the morning. It's
basically intermittent fasting for your
phone with environment design. Um but
you just take the charger for your phone
and you put it outside of your [ __ ]
bedroom. It's like I can't believe how
many people
still have it it is sapping
days of sleep out of you
every year.
Days and days and days, even if you've
got the best relationship with your
phone in the world because if you can't
sleep there is always the most
compelling device in human history only
with an arm's reach. And even if it's
over the other side of the room, the
problem that I would encounter is I'm
like, "Well, you know, like it's just
there. Go I'm going to get up. I'm going
to go downstairs into the kitchen. I'm
going to unplug it from the place that
it lives where it sleeps overnight." And
then also when you wake up in the
morning, it's not there for you to see.
What were you saying about Mark
Zuckerberg or whoever it is that you
know, all of us we open our phone and
there's just bad thing. This terrible
thing. Issues.
Well, that or it's Alexander's library.
Like say, "Oh, well, there is
Alexander's library on the other side of
this room with infinite Whether it's
good whether it's framed well or badly,
the what's your one task now? Go to
[ __ ] sleep. So, go to sleep. Uh and
then the morning walk thing just
you know, this was something that I'd
started doing probably from some [ __ ]
I'd learned from us researching things
forever ago. And uh I just noticed that
if I woke up and I was feeling a little
nervous or sort of anxious energy or
whatever whatever I was feeling in the
morning, by the time that I'd done a
15-minute walk, by the time I came back
I just it just felt less strong and less
important. And there's all manner of
Huberman explanations about whatever it
is the ventral dorsal stream and you're
locomoting through while you're doing
lateral eye movement which down
regulates the way blah blah blah. It's
like I like the midwit the guy on the
left says morning walk makes me feel
nice. Mhm. And uh those two things I
think you
the two that
I've done
in every different hotel, every
different place that I've stayed, every
different country that I've gone to,
those are two things that I really
really try and rely on. The phone
outside of the room when you're on the
road is difficult. It's like you can
plug it in in the bathroom and then like
go into the bedroom. But uh morning
walk, phone outside of the bedroom have
been two of the highest ROI.
Do you still do no caffeine first thing?
Uh yeah. Yeah. So, I'm avoiding that.
Your point about Huberman is great that
he's been able to pacify the midwits by
providing scientifically. Yeah. So, for
people to just follow the guy on the
left stuff. Yeah. Yes. We have um this
joke that so Huberman did a day and I I
do love Huberman but he did a five-part
podcast with Matthew Walker on sleep and
I think it was like 20 hours long and I
joke that I'd be willing to bet nobody
who listens to that sleeps as good as my
mate Winnie who's just like, "Just shut
your eyes, lad." You know what I mean?
Like who just doesn't overthink it. He
deliberately doesn't optimize it because
he's like, "If I mess with it, then I'm
going to sleep worse if it's Sleep is
one of those perfect examples of
one of the reasons a lot of people have
insomnia is trying to overthink sleep.
There was a famous study where they took
two groups, one that were paid to go to
sleep as fast as they can and the other
group that wasn't paid anything. And the
group that wasn't paid anything fell to
sleep three times as faster as the other
group. So, outside of all the sleep
science, the number one part of the
semantic tree is don't put too much
stress on yourself because then you
won't sleep.
take money for it. Yeah.
Uh yeah, but
it's it's an it's an interesting
realization that
you need especially now this super
rational hyper evidence-based world
where experts are only the people that
are allowed to comment on stuff that you
need someone to justify something that
you already did that already made you
feel good.
You had it it shouldn't be the case that
I need Andrew Huberman to explain to me
why the thing I do and like and is good
and effective for me is something that I
should do and like and is good and
effective for me.
So, that's why I brought up caffeine.
Mhm. Cuz I I'm not sure on like my
personal experience of that I'm not sure
I feel much of a difference. By not
having the caffeine first.
Or having caffeine first, yeah.
And I I'm sure the science will tell me
differently. But I think that's a good
example. You're like a heavyweight boxer
that can just take slugs with caffeine.
You're just like No, I think I just I
have like the appropriate amount and
then I stop. Lots. Lots.
Just don't get silly with it. And not
before not after midday.
Good old
G.
So, I I do have one but to go like meta
New Year's resolutions to begin with. Um
the the first thing is to kind of
question the question. So, I found this
stat when I was researching New Year's
resolutions last year.
And it's
said or it said that 91% of New Year's
resolutions fail.
So, quick little thought experiment for
you, Christopher, right?
Let's say um
you come to me and you go, "Oh, [ __ ] I
need to get this flight to Paris. Wizz
Air's gone." I go, "I don't worry,
Chris. I've got this um airline. It's
got a 91% failure rate. Are you going to
get on it?" Mhm. No. Or let's say Yusef,
I know what you like. You've been out on
the town. You've been out with Mr. Old
Testament. You're having fun. You've met
a lovely lady. You go back to the room
and you go, "Fuck, I've got no condoms."
And you knock on my door and I go, "Oh,
yeah, yeah. Take this one." And it just
says on the seal 91% failure rate. Would
you do it?
No. So, if something has a 91% failure
rate, you have to look at it before I
think you do it. So, then you look at
things like Alcoholics Anonymous. That
seems to work.
question something? Go on. I think the
failure in those examples is
it's like saying 91% of people fail to
make the flight on time. Yeah. Or 91% of
people can't get the condom on. So,
you've gone meta about my meta. So, can
I go meta about No, no, no. We will end
up in infinite labs like Sam Harris and
Jordan Peterson. Um what do you mean by
truth, Johnny? What do you mean by
condom? Exactly.
So, uh basically I would first look at
things that actually work. So, I'd look
at Alcoholics Anonymous. Um where you
have a group. So, you have kind of
social shame. Um you have a recurring
theme. You have Basically, New Year's
resolutions operate like a the
psychological version of North Korea.
Versus you kind of want to move towards
Singapore.
A system that actually works. Um versus
a horrific failure rate. So, even small
things of Okay, whatever the thing is,
like I'll sometimes do this whenever I
have a deadline that I'm bitching about
is I'll just message my mate Harry and
say, "Hey, I'm going to bet this
uncomfortable amount of money that I
will do the thing." And as a result, I
will do the thing.
There's the scene in uh Fight Club where
Tyler Durden goes into this random shop
and he finds this Asian guy behind the
counter, takes him outside, gun to his
head, and says, "Tell me what you want
it to be, Raymond."
Raymond. Raymond. Um and he's like
shaking, unsure. And he goes, "I want it
to be a veterinarian." And he goes, "If
I'm I'll come back here in 30 days and
if you're not a veterinarian, you'll be
dead." You can bet that he he didn't
have a 91% failure rate. So, I think
first off question the question, which
is pretty hardcore. But then the real
softcore nice thing that I would
recommend is um journaling.
All of that is said.
Journaling is So, don't bother with So,
this one is less about it is essentially
you don't appreciate writing a journal
now. It's kind of like investing in the
S&P.
You go, "Ah, I could be doing all these
activities." But a journal five years
hence, the value of that is so
significant. Um so, like even now if I I
go on a flight and I can go through
exactly how I thought 10 years ago or
what I was doing cuz you forget so much.
And going back to your point earlier,
it's just the same problems over and
over again. I had a friend of mine um
who I think had his journal stolen.
And cuz he left it in his suitcase that
got stolen. And I go, "How much was that
worth to you?" He's like, "Probably like
15% of a 15 or 20% of everything I have.
It's so valuable." Jim O'Shaughnessy um
who's one of the smartest guys I know,
older gentleman, he's about it 60. And
he was telling me about journals he has
from when he was like 21 and the value
that that has to him. Have I told you
about this, George? I took a journal
every day from the age of 13 to 19 Wow.
on a Microsoft Word document. And then
one day I opened it, file corrupted.
Just like
Oh, well. Did you never back it up?
No, I was like, "Well, that's the end of
that." And just stopped.
Not backing up that up is the least you
thing ever. Or is that is that where it
starts? This was when I was
transitioning Windows to Mac. So, it was
in that. However, I've still got the
file so I could maybe uncorrupt it now
with modern technology we'd be able to
Like whether it's you do this very well.
You take a lot of photos, videos. I
don't do that. Um I'm trying to do it
more. But more photos, more videos, more
journals cuz the value of it is so
significant 10 20 30 years.
Hm? Day one. No. You can use you can
leave audio messages. You can photos,
videos.
She's big Apple notes for everything.
This guy on the left Apple notes. It's
frictionless. One size fits all. Should
we do What have you got left? Should we
do one more round of life hacks? What
have we got? I've got a lesson and a
fail. Okay. I have a lesson.
doing fails? Uh I we can do. Let's do
Let's do another lesson and then we'll
see where we coming at. Okay. You got
another lesson?
Yeah. Beautiful.
So, I'll take the potato. You're up,
potato. I potato and me. Yeah. You look
to him but
on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Um
trying to
find the microplate equivalent in
happiness. What's a micro Microplate.
It's a it's a plate that's less than 2.5
kilos usually. Hm. So, it's like half a
kilo, 0.25 of a kilo.
So, in when I was doing powerlifting,
you realize really quickly that like
200 kilos, when that's your one rep max,
that feels the same as 210, feels the
same as 220. It's just always your one
rep max.
But what's what makes it engaging is the
fact that it's slightly more than you
did last week, last month, last year.
And I think whenever you go like the
steroids equivalent in anything, there's
just always the debt to pay.
In hindsight, so in business again like
most of our lessons are business wise.
We grew really fast. And you're like,
"Fantastic. We we like really this
really steady growth rate." And then
like 300%.
And you think, "Phenomenal. Like next
next thing, next thing." But actually
like going back, I'd have taken a way
slower growth rate year in, year out
because of that the experience is way
better.
And finding the like
just take the PB. Like just take the
extra rep. Just take the extra kilo week
in, week out because I I I for me, I
think the only thing that matters
is the feeling that you're making some
kind of progress. Something's moving in
the right direction. It doesn't actually
matter
what the absolute number is.
And it's a because now we're further on,
it's harder to find the Mhm. the half a
kilo
than if we just thought, "Hang on a
minute. This is growing way too quickly.
Let's slow down." I
I'm going to have to leapfrog ahead of
you because it's my lesson.
I I I'm doing your podcast. True. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Uh
trajectory is more important than
position. Mhm.
Uh which is a Jimmy Carr-ism. But that
being number 300 in the world, but last
year being 350 Mhm. feels better than
being number two in the world, but last
year being number one. Mhm. Uh because
you're so tightly attuned to what is the
direction that I'm on, not what is my
absolute position. Happiness is
relative, it's not absolute.
And uh yeah, I had spoke to we did
enough got theory cosine by Dan
Bilzerian before he went all
anti-Semitic. And um Old Testament Dan.
Old Old Testament Dan. That's what he
calls himself. Old T Dan. Um he I
basically said like he sort of gone to
the top of the hedonic mountain, so to
speak. Um
in some ways do you wish that you'd
dragged out that progress a little bit
more because it would have allowed you
to have had more places to go to. The
basically every new record you set,
especially big step changes in terms of
success, is just a new higher bar for
you to now you
So uh what you would say
success isn't more uh
success isn't a better vantage point to
have a view from, it's a higher point to
fall from. Mhm. Uh and it becomes
increasingly difficult to get those, you
know, to improve your lifts when you're
first going to the gym by 5% is maybe 5
kilos, but after a couple of years in
the gym, it's a significantly larger
amount and a significantly higher level
of pressure. So yeah, trajectory more
important than position. It's a Chris
Sparks-ism as well, direction over
speed.
How is it?
Yeah, I don't know whether that's quite
the same.
Trajectory over position.
Trajectory Trajectory is more important
position in that your growth is more
important than your absolute location
within
Actually, that's housed within direction
over speed.
So going from 220 deadlift to 225
deadlift versus a 395 to a 400 kilo
deadlift, it feels the same.
As opposed to
way harder to operate at the higher
level.
As opposed to like, "I want to get
stronger." And also the 400 So Jim Smith
says all wins feel the same. Yeah.
But there's no Uber surcharge for going
395 to 400 versus going 210 to 215.
Any any revenue level, any bank account
number, it's all
Dopamine's dopamine, isn't Yeah, how So
the problem is, are you suggesting that
you purposely throttle?
Yes. How?
It's difficult, but like anytime you
notice yourself progressing in
something, just accept the accept the
slower rate cuz everyone's always trying
to make things faster. They're always
trying to get leaner quicker, get bigger
quicker, make more money faster. Like
that's the world, right? But just look
accept the smaller rate of growth or
smaller rate of progress.
How do you To Chris's point, how do you
do that now? Are you intentional of go,
"Okay, I want 15% this year and then I'm
capping it at 15."
for a steady steady improvement in
something
rather than going for big targets. It
obviously it's a it's I don't have all
of the answers, Jordan. Sorry.
Existentially very difficult.
all as a concept as a cuz it you would
take if I offered you 200% growth in
something, you would probably your your
immediate response would be like,
"Yeah." Which why In business like Do
you know Wickman talks about having
growth phases and then consolidation
phases where rather than just like
because if you spam the growth and
scale, you're going to end up with like
on rickety foundations. Whereas if you
take some time you go, "Actually, I'm
just going to like focus on internal
growth for a while and like solidify the
foundations before the next sprint,
you're going to create a more
sustainable
You just always have to pay the debt
off, don't you? Yeah. Always.
Good insight. Nice. Seth.
Have you ever had a chat with someone
who says that they want a goal
and then you start giving them solutions
and they'll keep coming up with rotating
reasons and excuses for not doing it?
So
this is I think a Naval-ism, correct me
if I'm wrong. If information was all
that was needed, we would all be
billionaires with perfect abs.
So
something I've really learned over the
last couple of years is
there is
somebody's actual goal and then there is
the story that they tell themselves
about what they think their goal is.
And
often it's not the same. Someone's
actions versus their words.
So George got me a book a few years ago
called The Courage to Be Disliked and
it's
basically a summary written by Parable
about Adler
um versus Freud. So
Adler was one of Freud's contemporaries
and
he's kind of the lesser known um you
know, Freud, Jung, Adler, like those
kind of original psychologists.
His view is the teleological view rather
than the etiological view. So Freud's
view is something happened to me when I
was a child and it's caused me to behave
like this. So past event produces
current behavior.
Adler is the teleological view, which is
future goal impacts current behavior. So
the example given is somebody
is always getting rejected by people and
they they've made themselves repulsive
to other people so that they can tell
themselves the story that ah no one
likes me and every everyone finds me
whatever.
But the goal baked into that, the hidden
payoff of that belief is that it keeps
them safe because they can reject
themselves before other people can
reject them.
So they construct a certain identity
that allows them to fulfill that goal
and meet the payoff.
So
we we run a program
to help people grow their business
in a specific niche, but
quite often you'll see that
the more barriers and the more
guardrails you put up to make failure
absolutely impossible
what's happening is you're kind of
backing someone into a corner where it's
like the you're removing the
technological friction, you're removing
the the blueprint friction, you're
removing the what to do and how to do it
and the process until suddenly there's
nothing left but you as the bottleneck.
And so you mentioned this with GPT, I'm
glad you did, which is that now like we
have infinite access to the best
computational models
working at like super PhD level
and
all information at our fingertips and
people haven't suddenly become
infinitely more productive. All it's
done is like take away another excuse
another objection
to the point where you're like ah like
now it really is just me. And so
someone's willingness to actually show
up and do the thing is still always
going to be the
the final frontier.
How would you summarize that lesson
overall?
What people tell themselves the goal is
isn't always the goal. So look at
actions versus behavior. Mhm. And don't
think that you just have an information
bottleneck and that'll
that'll solve everything.
Yeah, I guess it's weird to think how
can you say that you value a thing if
your actions show no indication Yeah,
actions versus words.
that way. Yeah. Look at your calendar to
find your priorities. Yeah. It's all
[ __ ] that we learned [ __ ] 10 years
ago.
ago. Yeah. But now you're like, "Oh,
yeah." G. Lessons or life hack or
Lesson, please.
Okay. Um have we got more after this or
is it the final one?
Last one. Okay, cool. I'll try and
get through as much as I can. So
first one um is
going back to Old Testament for a second
is um this the Socratic method. So
one thing I would do
What do you mean by that, George?
There we go. Matter about matter. What
do you mean What do you mean by true?
What do you mean by Socratic exactly? Um
so
one thing that I would typically do um
being an idiot is whenever somebody
would say something I disagree with, I
would just stop listening to what
they're saying and then just start
processing the dunk I'm about to do in
my head. And then as soon as they stop
talking, I'm dunking, but I'm noticing
they're just doing the same thing.
So now just rather than disagreeing with
people, just asking questions and uh not
only do you actually not necessarily
ruin relationships or have emotional um
issues with other people, you actually
also sometimes change their mind quite a
lot as well. So like one example, I was
in the car um and I was with a friend of
mine and he was telling me about how
he has his current job and he would like
to work remote, but there's not that
many remote jobs out there. So my
immediate like dunk on brain goes, "Hold
on. I hire people in these roles all the
time. I can pull up these numbers. What
are you on about?" I was like, "Okay." I
was like, "Hmm."
So I was like, "Here's a question.
How many kind of in-person jobs do you
think there are in your town?" He's
like, "I don't know. If you just had to
guess." He's like, "Uh
I don't know. Like 10,000." "Okay. Okay.
And then how many remote jobs do you
think there are in the world?"
And he just paused for a bit and he goes
"Yeah, you might be right."
Versus if I would have tried Mhm.
letting them come write the code in
their own head and being a
Socrates calls it being a midwife.
You're helping them give birth to the
new idea rather than trying to push it
into them is a um
is a big thing. And then the other one
um
so I've been quite fascinated by doom
loops this year. So a doom loop would be
I'm feeling anxiety. [ __ ] Why am I
being anxious? Uh [ __ ] Why are you Why
are you criticizing yourself for being
anxious? And it's just anxiety. You get
anxious about your anxiety, which leads
to more anxiety and it's blah blah blah.
Or why am I so depressed? And so you
have the initial stimuli that's kind of
you don't really control and then it's
your reaction to that.
And getting a little bit deeper into
meditation this year, there were two
things that I found useful. One is to um
I call it the Pilkington fork. So Karl
Pilkington um who the philosopher K
Pilkington once said
um he's telling a story to Gervais
about when he got mugged in the center
of town. Some guys came over to him and
like, "Give me your phone." And usually
there's two ways you react to that. It's
like punching them or it's like running
away. Yeah, sure, sure. And he goes,
"But I love this phone."
He goes, "It's my favorite thing." And
he starts like being very strange. He
goes, "How are you by the way?" He goes,
"We've met before." And just like
completely freaks them out that he
doesn't know how to react the mugger and
he just walks away. So using that on my
own brain. So if I get super um if I get
Well, there's a few things. One, asking
my brain, "What's the next thought
you're going to have?"
And it just stops. And then sometimes a
random thing will appear and then you
go, "Well, was that me?" Cuz I didn't
try and bring that up. So you have this
natural detachment as well as when I
hear um
anxiety come. So let's say I'm anxious
about an event I've got going up and
then I'll start going, "Fuck, why am I
being anxious?" And I go,
"I get it.
I get why you're anxious."
And it all of a sudden cuz you've now
had the cortisol reaction to the
cortisol, it kind of the Pilkington fork
occurs and you break out. So those are
uh those are my two ones. Awesome. Yeah,
I I think I
called them second-order emotions. Oh, I
like that. Uh that like infinite regress
resentment at your frustration about
your bitterness about your anxiety.
Yeah. Final one cuz we did it. Um you
guys might like this from a business
perspective. It's my friend Harry Dry,
phenomenal human being. He gave me this
nugget which is positioning is arranging
information in the customer's head.
So I'll do it again. Positioning is a
rain I'm arranging You see I'm arranging
I'm Is it matter again, right? Um
positioning is arranging uh information
in the customer's head. So example would
be Loom used to be um record your screen
set it record your screen. Whereas then
they didn't change the product, they
just changed the positioning how it was
structured in the customer's head to
removing meetings and it explodes and
and separated from the rest of the
competition. And then I thought, "Okay,
frame is how you arrange information in
your own head." And frame itself is
positioning is completely under looked
and frame is completely under looked as
well.
That was brilliant.
Cheers, mate. You're on fire, man.
my the information's been arranged
differently in my head.
I feel like we need to put so much
energy we need to go to like the local
M&S and just throw stones at people.
I actually That was exactly what was
next. It's that and then chicken.
Boys, I love you all. I appreciate you.
Merry Christmas. I'm sad that we don't
get to spend as much time together as we
used to.
No fails. Uh
why don't we save Why don't we save them
for next
Let's save the fail for next year. We
can keep everyone coming back. But no, I
really do. Uh I'm so happy and so proud
of what all of you have done. It's
[ __ ] fire. It's great. You're in my
life even though we're apart from each
other.
100%. What a year it's been as well.
What a year. Fire.
Ladies and gentlemen,
Merry Christmas. I'll see you next time.
Should we uh Peak state. Oh, yeah.
I actually can't raise my arms, but
Ready?
I feel so tall. Are you going to take us
through this?
This isn't my thing. This is your thing.
Thank you, Sam. Okay. And arms overhead.