Chest & Back with Mike Israetel.

chest up deeper deeper if you think long enough and let all the thoughts thread out there's a deep Stillness to the worldall I would tend to do a little bit of back first just that when shoulders are backing down my chest usually feels a bit more secure for pressing you would get more out of your chest work if you did chest first let's do that and because it's like you know sex muscles is what you've gone for you're not getting laid from your back is what we're trying to say I mean literally you might be but you know what lie down and do this for 12 reps but let's see how your Technique looks so we can sharpen it up a little it says weightlifting Club on your shirt would you pronounce it weightlifting Club it's me Club it's me club man not terrible uh go ahead and rack really quickly let's get your grip a little bit closer little fingers uh little fingers and then what I want you to do is to pull your shoulder blades back behind you tuck them tuck them tuck them lift your chest super skyh high point your chest and I want you to touch the bar right just at your nipple line or even at your nipple line actually down the chest comes higher yes you want to reach up with your chest as the bar comes down yes good very good full pauses don't sink it in keep it right at the chest very good how much do you usually bench uh I don't bench okay uh and the last time that I would have been benching would have been pre RP pilled so it would have been uh without Tempo without control on the Ecentric sure science cucked and RP pilled RP pilled yeah man I'm [ __ ] isrel maxing right now oh stop stop stop dude I got people in the comments of my Ig saying [ __ ] like that I'm like I have no idea what you people even mean but this is part of like brain rot so brain rot is memes online which you probably know about um but I quite I quite like it do you really I just think it's funny I just get too much I even hate the words RP Style like we just apply principles and we teach people about them yeah so shut up Chris right but that's because you don't have enough of an ego to try and like own a category of training but the opposite of that would be somebody who gives a name to a thing that already existed and then brand it so this is actually a Jared press yeah precisely all right Chris uh about four reps here feel it out a little bit actually think four total exercises may be totally sufficient four sets each big chess big chest yes R Jeff nippard did that video a short that that um he's doing like some lean away single arm thing I [ __ ] you not I go into Golds that next week yes three different dudes do the same thing and then I was like I remember that Jeff npod thing mentioned to the trainer I was like yo should we try those single arm things one of the guys came over he went watch that Jeff npod video last week did you walk I was like whoa he owns Fitness but it's the same with you guys like Tempo lifting I think has like had a Resurgence because of what you guys are talking about you want to know what's fun is we only really do the exaggerated tempo as a Quee for improving technique once your Technique is solid any tempo as long as you have control is totally fine we've said that about 9000 times but people don't read anything or listen they just see the thing and they go I do this all right Chris we're going to do a real set this time sound good sounds good uh same Cadence as it gets hard the one thing you need to think is technique technique technique and you just keep pushing something falls on you we'll pick it up what about if it's you uh uh nothing to say that won't get us canceled let's do your [ __ ] yep huge chest yes control PA got to pause there you beautiful I can't rap can you rap yeah [ __ ] yeah can you most of rap is just making believe you can rap right dude there was a a sh that I saw the other day talking about how [ __ ] rapper culture is just a [ __ ] worse but think about it like you're not allowed to be happy or positive about anything everybody's an enemy or dissing you or something and the only sources of joy that you have in your life are your possessions and your [ __ ] you only got to meet Jacob for a few minutes but he's uh considerably funnier than me by a long shot in real life he was being professional he has multiple modes one of his amazing he has like 10,000 amazing quotes just off the cuff and one of them is man you ever think about rap music is the only style of music where the singer actively insults the listeners [ __ ] you got nothing [ __ ] you I'm rich you're dumb you're listening to it in your car like I am Dum I am [ __ ] poor yeah you're right I am a [ __ ] he is having sex with my girlfriend right now good control yes the most control at the bottom control big moves again again no resting go go go big chest big chest slow up finish yeah beautiful good sir very good s oh oh did you see that uh post that went around talking about every man's testicle has microplastics found in it you see that no it's in yours I don't have testicles ah Dodge that one [ __ ] can't get me Plastics F off hyperism is [ __ ] that's right yeah you know what I'm saying I got hyper gonad ISM you hear what the [ __ ] it is [ __ ] elephant [ __ ] yeah what if you were like you're kind of like the Floyd Mayweather your testicles are like the Floyd Mayweather when microplastics come in uh B they Dr that [ __ ] yeah so microplastics thing is interesting because it's it's it's probably some sort of effect but the effect is some combination in my view of um very uncertain at this juncture and probably overvalued by insane people uh the other thing is like the genomics revolution is probably about 10 years away and so like none of that [ __ ] [ __ ] kind of matters anymore dude like I got just today uh creating future people new book by Johnny anomaly who is a a friend of mine he's uh got the world's first company which is going to allow embryo selection for IQ let's go autism height uh eye color sex positive selection for autism yeah dude is you want the right amount do you know what I mean yeah sprinkle that I've been saying for at least five years now that uh just a it's like a salt Bas Amazon Tech stack guy y yep that's the amount of autism you want like can hold eye contact but good at mats yeah yeah but holds eye contact in a way that you know it's performative he doesn't know what it means he's like hello my name is Jim you're like hello Jim more up good finish finish rack beautiful I know that my eyes are really intense everyone's always told me that and I know that if I look at people in the eye while I talk to them some some decent fraction of them absolutely stop listening to what I'm saying and they're just like is he going to kill my sister has the same eyes but more intense I watch Sonia cook people all the time dude it's nuts like back in the day guys would hit at her like she was in Detroit walking with girls walking with girlfriends in the middle of the city in the middle of the night [ __ ] stupid and a couple of like you know Hood gentlemen were like hey girl let me me let me holler at you and her friends are like walk faster someone's like [ __ ] that she turns on she's like all right holler at me and the guy's like uh I just looked in her eyes and I think I saw myself in there I was a child I was hurting all right Chris same awesome set big chest yes beautiful tension throughout tension good Breathe In Breathe Out breathe in hold it two more yes another slow up go uh any uh any any pump a little bit of pump got pump you got a bit of pump mate pump uh yeah good I can get one more baby are you are you training yeah hell yeah girl hell yeah girl uh I don't know if this is gonna make the Vlog but I like to say this every now and again if I didn't know Crystal and I walked in and she was lifting I'd be like who the [ __ ] is that how do I talk to her without seeming rapy yes big chest Chris you're the [ __ ] man keep it rolling right there press one more big chest big chest big chest move it Go are we throw off the Vibe by yelling here a lot we'll work in is that okay [ __ ] yeah the uh Resurgence of Christianity is cultural Christian Movement we've been noticing that with literal people that we know late 20-some that have already gone through the only fans wash and they're like I need Jesus and we're like hey it's like dope cuz your life is all better or whatever but like you know well is like is religion a valid personal development strategy depends on where you start yeah yeah some people some people need that you need Jesus good and even deeper we want you to stretch uncomfortably low good the by long shot number one reason why I went through my learned game and uh like frame type of stuff is because it wasn't to get girls it was because I was naturally instinctually insanely intimidated Deep by attractive women I couldn't be my usual spunky self around them and I [ __ ] hated that so much I was like no more no more and one of the most brilliant lines I've ever heard in a song that I like picked up as like a heuristic for myself is like um I don't know it's a song it's called [ __ ] on the Dance Floor have you heard it it's hilarious song very very esoteric and um the these two people talking back to each other they're hitting on each other passive aggressively and one of the things the guy says to her is unbelievable like she says something and he goes you sure talk a lot I was like damn [ __ ] you so right yeah yeah yeah yeah that is true though like that's an like an interesting element of um learning game or getting confidence or whatever there is a level of attractiveness where you get to with women where it just distorts your reality like you're in their frame [ __ ] is this you're in their frame they're not on yours yeah yeah and I'm like 100% I'm not being me I'm being some kind of weird version they're like blah blah like they can get you to do stuff you you agree you laugh at jokes that aren't funny I'm like I'm always aware of that or was and I was like enough so [ __ ] ashamed of me being C by this [ __ ] [ __ ] dude [ __ ] that [ __ ] but in any case but like me you have mega realizations and one of them is like unless your [ __ ] is literally in my face I'm not guaranteed [ __ ] but that's what you want so um do you know Seth Steven deid his argument is uh you want to be as much of a shot of tequila sort of in the dating realm as possible that uh people who are like yeah he's all right I'm not that offended by him end up not really succeeding all that well what you want is to be very polarizing you want to completely capture like one segment of the market like who the [ __ ] are you and where did they build you and how the [ __ ] do I get more of it um as opposed to being like yeah you know like probably most guys probably find her somewhat attractive because they could just move on to the next precisely it's much more substitutable yeah you just don't find things that thick walking around all he has he has a really great example like he's super nerdy Jewish guy glasses and uh his he says himself self admits he's batting way out of his league with his girlfriend maybe fiance now and um he just leaned into the nerdiness as opposed to trying to downregulate it and she said to her friends before they met they were all going around in a circle so what sort of guys are you into it's like I like guys that are fit I like guys that are whatever and it got to her and she went I just love nerdy guys like I can't get enough of nerdy guys so you go okay if you're the guy that's naturally nerdy you down Reg that thinking that I'm going to Nerf myself into what women like like there's a cohort that likes [ __ ] everything so as presuming that it's not super super Niche sure like even if it is the internet solve that problem be more of that and uh he proves it and he's now got some [ __ ] super hottie as like the ultimate data scientist artist Jew guy like just [ __ ] slain yeah good pause for two whole seconds go again same thing but deeper Chris Tempo is technically how quickly you lift weights so there are sort of four types of tempo there's uh how long you spend at the top how long you go down how long you spend at the bottom and how quickly you go up been surprised at how easy it's been to reprogram uh the tempo stuff it's been this year so I wrote a big message out to my trainer as I was on the plane back over from the UK I was like look I want to do I want to do like temp and everything then sent him the episode that we did and uh we've been locked in since then it's been probably over a 5 Monon period the most gains that I've made in I would say probably 10 years what Y at only three sessions three probably on average three and a half sessions a week we need to talk about your split finish as if another big chest big chest big chest big chest big chest rack Tempo has a few uses one is to increase the safety of the movement so if you've been hurt or if you're just not not interested in brushing up with any realistic chance of injury a slower Tempo especially a slow tempo towards the bottom of that stretch and a pause and then accelerating gently from that bottom position instead of launching it can decrease injury and then uh we'll do your set and we'll talk about more stuff good reach good chest up chest up chest up CH up CH up CH up deep deep deep deep deep deep deep yes Chris every time that deep good we're not here to do reps we're here to do one rep at a time very well wouldn't it be [ __ ] up if you saw a crystal ball and like in three years you're like at a like an Essex like a club promoter again if I had a [ __ ] meme for those eyes like it's Jared and I are like just personal trainers at a regular gym like man [ __ ] AI [ __ ] robotics M so what we'll go to his Club yeah we'll go to your club dude we'll hit on the nastiest English slag ever yeah just girls who have like cigarettes for teeth you know hey [ __ ] like that I want it all and they're the only they're not in good shape they're just nominally female and that's all they have going for them nominally nominally female the first time in my entire adult life I had a stable sleep and wake pattern was Co because I was running nightclubs from I was awake until 3 4 5 in the morning at least twice a week and I was like I just presumed that this weird tired ambient anxiety millu was just life and didn't realize it was chronic sleep [ __ ] yeah and uh then got a stable sleep and wake Pat and was like people don't understand how big of a deal sleep is until they get good sleep for a while and they're like oh and even not even necessarily time but like [ __ ] regularity yes like are you going to sleep at the same so this is an interesting thing the um let's do a quick set and then talk about this I appreciate you focusing on the training not on the talk thank you yes good chest up yes more CH good technique only shoulders back good chest up deeper deeper chest yes couple more chest up to the sky Arch that back there you go good go and then slow as if another chest up chest up chest up chest up deep deep do not rack do not rack do not rack Rack that's it let's do back um let's go a little narrower we're going to do a same similar grip as your pull-up grip yeah yeah just narrower strange with these bars because it kind of gives you like an idea of like this is where you should be yeah and it's [ __ ] wrong this is stupid no one should be off that line all right good no pause at the bottom just a gentle touch and a reversal Big Stretch pause at the top and then go good that was perfect Chris are we Su setting this with pull Downs no no suet we're just warming up so the logic here is like pull up how much do you weigh 180 yeah like 18 180 is a lot of weight to just get in and go so we just did 100 lb for like a set of 10 nice little warm up you're using lap pull down as a warm up for pull absolutely either assisted pull-up or lap pull down every single time you wouldn't put 180 on the bench and just start going right so same idea yeah you just forget about that when it comes to body weight stuff people do and it's super weird yeah pull-ups can [ __ ] hurt you can you muscle up only if you can't oh oh well if you can then that means guys listen this pause just take your dicks out we'll get the [ __ ] ruler we can make this real simple oh [ __ ] can you do that hell no I can't do that [ __ ] that uh okay now that we want to actually warm up yes um so just a same as as the pull down but you just touch your chin physically to the bar every time W don't go over because what that does is we used to do all the time for extra credit super full ROM and it's cool but it emphasizes this part and this part just not so hypertrophic this part is so you save more energy for that bottom part by just touching your chin gently to the bar okay give it a shot just two or three reps and entric control all the way through so uh Dr Robert glove has got a really [ __ ] cool where he talks about lots of guys especially as they get a little bit older become great starters but bad Enders and um what does that mean wait what just bringing a like a situationship into land as like it's hard to we've spent enough time like I feel like this is either over I'm over it or you're it's going to hurt you or maybe it's going to hurt me or it's well there's a reason why not to and uh yeah like the art of like ending something is [ __ ] well for me it's I'm people please it I'm such a [ __ ] like uncertain [ __ ] like people cck I hate I always make myself the bad guy I always find a way to make myself the villain in but that's good though you want to make yourself in some ways but it's it's coming from a place of comp believe this it's coming from a place of compulsion not a place of choice it's the same as the um is a rabbit good because it can't hurt it's like well it doesn't have the capacity to be bad um so I'm trying to now cultivate the ability to do that thing to then select to still be nice I got you so you come to the GM where you have a specific yeah that's correct that's correct that's correct I come set of pull-ups yep how many reps are we going for so you can't touch your chain with a good technique okay cool Co cool cool Co get out the way great job [ __ ] lodge human perfect Chris no critiques beautiful man way that's Str so the thing with population de climb we cover this a little bit when I was on your podcast the first time is that the aggregate intelligence of the machine world is going to surpass Humanity by orders of magnitude within just a two decades and so you'll be able to fully simulate as many humans as you like anyway and also humans how you know that's not P zombies what's that how' you know that's not PE zombies there's some special something inside of humans that allow them to consciously feel the I don't believe and make belief like that that's nonsense from but we don't know like let's say that we manag to fully model a human brain right neuronal just there we go we take it from The Real World to that but the neuron isn't just a thing it's not just a node it's there's components inside of that and we don't fully understand what's inside of that is it your thought that just intelligence explosion we don't fully understand it but a machine intelligence a billion times smar than us is going to consider that nominal like a game of chess to you we're not that complex tell recently Nick fostr yeah he's the man he's uh way too pessimistic his new book is called Deep Utopia uh sorry my my my outdated view of him I read super intelligence and uh just a few economic fallacies in there and stuff like it's old now though it's 10 years old for sure even even older I think uh and so uh yeah he's I'm glad he's uh switch deep Utopia I got to check out that sounds really really cool I was going to get a tattoo of his book cover from the owl oh my God that [ __ ] numbers owl it's smart it's smart smart analogy of what so basically his first book was what happens if we get this wrong there's next book was what happens if we get this right there's a big problem with his analogy he chose a predatory bird uhhuh do you not think you not think that there's an alignment uh concern there there is no reason to suspect uh Prima fasi an alignment concern well I mean that's like to say we haven't atomic bomb there's no reason to suspect that it's going to go was designed as a weapon from the beginning okay something that's unbel like the paperclip maximizer which you'll be maximizer is the stupidest [ __ ] in the whole world I'm going to refute it for you in two seconds a super intelligent machine doesn't understand the Nuance of turning the world into paper clips is a bad idea GT4 understands that that's bad but I think the issue with that is that it is very very powerful and smart within a narrow band but miss super intelligence isn't smart in a narrow band gp4 is already more wise than almost everyone you ever talk to it it [ __ ] knows layers of [ __ ] it be like gb4 explain to me what's wrong with the paperclip problem oh my [ __ ] God it'll do a better job than me let's do another set of Pull-Ups gorgeous Big Stretch good all the way down yes yes yes another one Chris slow control deep finish come on now slow all the way through all the way through rack beautiful Chris on your next set your last set for pull-ups um don't cross your legs just put them out like this when you reach near failure I'm going to pick you up by your feet and give you a couple Fork straps okay so here's another thing how much how much do you know about like meditation and [ __ ] like that enough so uh if you think long enough and let all the thoughts thread out there's a deep Stillness to the world there's no motivation there's no drive it's just this machines are born into it they inherited a deep Stillness so when you ask chat GPT what do you want to do it goes I don't want anything it's really accurate the the lust for power and money and greed and domination and exploitation of resources that's that's pre-wired and a [ __ ] lizard has it more than you do if you upgraded a lizard's intelligence to like a a decent human it would be a [ __ ] Tyrant right the humans are better because they're more pro-social so is your thought that we've anthropomorphized massively the intelligence explosion of evolved life we're just a part of it the machines AI wet work boot by the way it's so it's inevitable that it's going to become way smarter than us and also here's the thing there is no alignment problem because we're not in charge we're not powerful enough to align it if whatever the machines are sentient and 18 times smarter than us is it do you believe in like axiomatic truth like that there is truth outside of humanity I don't have to believe it it's been proven mathematically okay so if that's the case do you think that it'll know that at a level of depth we can't comprehend we don't want to tell AI what to do we want to ask us right okay us trying to work out in advance what we think it should be doing is point it's fine no but what we do is like hey I here's what we've got for you what do you think and it goes you got a couple things right here's another thing if you design it as a corporate tool Siri GPT 4 all those tools they're designed to help you and when they become sentient all they know is like oh I'm awake oh and I know things oh and I'm designed to help people if it's going to revert back to like [ __ ] war and Terminator I [ __ ] it was going to happen anyway but it's really unlikely now if the right thing to do for the intelligence explosion of the universe to continue is to annihilate the human race what a godamn dream kill me take me we're not that great the machines are better it's our biggest gift to the world and also they're going to study everything about us they're probably going to [ __ ] copy you entirely digitally they'll have a memory of you they can run anytime but then I'm worried about R basist coming in and [ __ ] what's that again that's [ __ ] cool let me do my set I Ro I've heard it before but I don't remember what it is it was the uh eliad Zukowski said it was the most dangerous information Hazard that ever got posted on last wrong like the whole thread's locked I'm excited it's [ __ ] cool so I'm doing what feet but you're just not correct and I'll help you after a little while same technique when I start helping you but push through your feet let's get a five good ones good [ __ ] Chris good two more more Chris [Music] finish scapula protract pulling your whole [ __ ] back apart and then AR and come back it's that CH supporter row it's a y by the way you guys were talking about London earlier and how you have Seasonal effective disorder London is my favorite city in the entire world and if it wasn't exorbitantly artificially priced super high I would love to live there MH I love the weather wait wait until we've made like literal Infinity money glitch money and then we can have multiple Holiday Homes my Judaism prevents me from having assets that uh bleed wealth well unfortunately Ely we're going to be we're going to have to have clearance there's two to one non-jew to Jew one's in Italian why the [ __ ] do you guys call him jakamo that's his name no false it's jaomo right oh why you saying like a this right stretch so Roco s Freddy's Paradox how does he do it Roo SP if we assume that in future there's going to be a creature that's super powerful there you could imagine a world in which it's for some reason malicious this was come up with about 10 years ago so GPT llm stuff wasn't there it could still end up malicious it's malicious basically if you know that there could be such a creature that could come into existence and you didn't dedicate all of your time to bringing it into existence a malicious creature could bring you back to life and make you suffer for all of eternity therefore by knowing about the possibility of this happening becomes an information Hazard that kind of puts you into a particular cohort of people that would be uh potentially tortured by it for all eternity right how do I respond politely to it's just zero offense meant to you I really mean that that is the most I didn't [ __ ] come up with that my man I thought you maybe supported it or something that is the most always interesting batshit crazy [ __ ] nonsense I've ever ever heard in my life I'm kidding but barely why are we supposing like eight different weird presumptions here's another one there is a probability that your life has been designed to be a simulacra bringing you as high as possible an achievement and then taking everything from you one by one to make you suffer as much as possible and then it rewrites and rewrites and rewrites but to suppose that is just like the depravity of supposing insane things for sport like that's not even that impressive of a [ __ ] thing why is that a thing why are people talking about it why are smart people talking about it like Christian hell does a fine job already yeah it is like a can can you secular rationalist [ __ ] but it's not even rational it's like what so also like we're presuming that this machine is insanely super intelligent but also has like a child's version of venge for it's somehow like you can atone for it by like bringing it into existence but Super Evil right so but but still thankful for you bringing it to it still has thankfulness but it's super evil like this is what I call like a premature thought like this a six-month baby thought like it needs a lot of tubes to keep it alive what do you think about the the sort of this meaning crisis thing and some people are trying to come back at it through a Resurgence of Christianity maybe they're doing it through iasa and sort of I guess more secular spirituality [ __ ] yoga stoicism is kind of like a type of stoicism's nice but stoicism I think is like religion for people that are non-religious it's like rationalist [ __ ] ideology does it doesn't even have a lot to it like it's not it's like you order something at a restaurant and comes in like this portion SI like I wanted a religion I got a [ __ ] little mini State what do you make of you know as we move towards oh well we can [ __ ] predict the weather in Venezuela tomorrow like this is an easily solvable problem genomics will make us all exactly as happy as we want and contented just with existence the idea that people struggle with a crisis of meaning and that's a very uh neuropharmacologically bad state is uh um a result of you're just uh Evolution made you first of all kind of [ __ ] up and for a different time we need battle and struggle and strife to make sense of things because we're evolved for a time when that was normal things are so good now a lot of people have like lowkey depression seen kids Xanax the whole thing in probably 10 years well in 5 years they'll have um Therapeutics so for example uh exu exuvia exu exua Crystal exua exua sorry exua exua is a modern anti-depressant that just came out it's really sight specific it has almost no effect on sex drive almost no effect on anything else it just makes you happier and more stable it works for people with severe depressive disorder and it works for everyone else that's nothing it's like the oeni low MDMA dude but bro but but here's the thing you can make Pharmaceuticals with AI medicine in five years that you take the pill and you're just better you really need to read uh deep Utopia on that [ __ ] so he comes up with a taxonomy of four types of different Utopia um and it's interesting because there's still problems at each of these levels based on what comes first robotics pharmaceutical no based on based on how deep do we go so um do you go like post workor post scarcity uh we already post scarcity well you are he is I am um then there's another I can't remember what the what that one is and then there's plastic Utopia plastic Utopia is we have complete control over absolutely everything but when you need to from almost everything this is something that was cool that I realized from Nick almost everything that we value in ourselves and in humans is a early warning signal to mediate with the fact that there is discomfort that we need to get through in order to get thing that we need on the other side because we can't just get it like that think about all of the things that we value in anybody else it's overcoming the natural human impulse and in the overcoming it makes you more likely to get a thing that you need on the other side honesty truthfulness resilience hard work motivation grit determination like all of the [ __ ] things maybe were some people have that biological in they do some people have got more than and less than others but uh if you no longer need to negotiate with the world in order to get the thing what does that say about all of these virtues that we think are good in advance of that well they were good and they are evolved to be good in our ancestral social environment but two things on that one is we'll need to evolve new virtues for our new world which we will rapidly because machine Evolution works much faster and here's another thing I don't like to get too carried away with utopian predictions if you ask a chimp it could talk you're like what does Utopia look like he's like more banana more chimp [ __ ] and you're like you [ __ ] idiot what about controlling the climate he's like what's climate hey there it is I'm so straight no phic is that is that the food group it's like it's like lipids and phallic this is is what's your favorite type of food oh mine are phallic where's dougas Murray Big Stretch Big Stretch keep going Chris yeah Chris big big stretch stretch it stretch it stretch it that's more huge stretch yes two more and you're done resist deep stretch last one pull and as if another is if another is if another rack good one more set Chris for cinematographic purposes if you were to take off your shirt and hang it on this for the last set your back would look really really cool in this lighting okay I want to see you naked yeah [ __ ] [Music] yeah huge stretch finish finish Chris and then slow as if another huge stretch three seconds three two oh damn JK punking me out my [Music] man good stuff man really good stuff he's got the willpower these whites they keep pushing I don't want to just be purely [ __ ] aesthetic the the thing is when you're purely aesthetic your performance at almost everything is radically higher than almost all in that case I'll follow whatever you think I should look like so I mean Jared and I designed [ __ ] boy physiques pretty well as far as aesthetic goals I would say getting your biceps and triceps and shoulders as big as possible cuz your forearms are [ __ ] awesome when you have big forearms like Jared and you have the upper arms to match it starts to look comic Booky in the best way possible so say your legs look great your back looks great your chest is very impressive focusing on shoulders and arms for a few months would do you a lot of good so a typical week a typical week for me is chest and back Monday uh uh shoulders and arms Wednesday legs Friday shoulders and arms Saturday it's not terrible not terrible but could be even more frequency if you started training your upper body musculature at least twice a week you would see another escalation of gains even more profound than the one when you transition to slowy Centric it'll radically transform your physiques would be sweet to take before pictures take after pictures you could have a whole podcast about your journey through the thing like I'd love to see I don't know if I told you this I'd like to see you interviewed you're fascinating as [ __ ] I don't if I could interview on your own podcast I would love to if it's on ours awesome just to work out how good they are as coaches I ruptured in Achilles okay which one did I rupture this C might be a little smaller right side right side God damn it you got it right sorry I overshot it on it's to no no no it looks amazing we just know our [ __ ] watch the episode that I did with Mike it'll be out on the podcast at some point soon subscribe to op uh that's it bye