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Chaos on the Israeli right as elections lists are finalized

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The political landscape in Israel is experiencing significant turbulence as election lists are finalized, with a major shift occurring involving Tally Guttman. Previously a prominent figure within the Likud party who was furious over the lack of women's representation on their list, she has decided to run under Itamar Ben-Gvir's party instead, securing a much higher position on that new list. This move is seen as a strategic blow to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, as it removes a potential source of internal discipline and allows Guttman to speak freely about his criticisms of him without fear of party repercussions. While Likud officials may be relieved to see her leave, analysts argue that this development merely amplifies her voice against Netanyahu rather than silencing her, effectively making her an even greater headache for his campaign. Amidst these internal fractures, Ofer Winter continues to polarize the right-wing spectrum by taking a hardline stance on the draft exemption issue, refusing to join any government that does not force ultra-Orthodox Jews into military service before it is formed. This rigid position creates a complex scenario where he could potentially block alliances between Benny Gantz and Yair Lapid, or even prevent a united front between Bennett and Lieberman if they manage to combine their seats to challenge Netanyahu. Winter's refusal to compromise on this deeply divisive issue means that his future role remains uncertain; if he fails to cross the electoral threshold, it could destabilize the right-wing bloc further, whereas success might allow him to become a kingmaker or a significant obstacle depending on how other factions align themselves around the draft law. The ultra-Orthodox exemption issue has emerged as an unprecedented focal point for voters heading into the October 27th election, with implications that could reshape the entire political constellation. This single topic threatens to hurt Netanyahu, who previously made agreements with these communities but failed to fully satisfy them, while simultaneously endangering Bezalel Smotrich if he runs without Winter's support. There is a genuine concern among observers that Smotrich might fail to meet the electoral threshold, especially given his role as Finance Minister where unpopular budget cuts have already generated anger among the public and within the ultra-Orthodox community. The disproportionate casualties suffered by ultra-Orthodox soldiers in recent wars have added emotional weight to these political grievances, raising the possibility that a split vote between Smotrich and Winter could drag both down and ultimately contribute to Netanyahu's downfall. As the deadline for submitting election lists approaches, journalists and politicians alike are holding their cards close to their chests, engaging in last-minute maneuvering that characterizes this high-stakes political game. The potential outcomes remain highly unpredictable, with various combinations of parties merging or splitting based on their stance on the draft law and other contentious issues. If Bennett and Lieberman were to unite and secure enough seats, they could present a formidable right-wing alternative to Netanyahu, potentially offering him a rotation for Prime Minister if Winter's promises hold true. Ultimately, the coming days will reveal whether these strategic shifts lead to a new government formation or further chaos, with the draft exemption issue serving as the central flashpoint that could determine the fate of multiple leaders and the direction of Israeli politics in the near future.
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So, for more political analyst, Gil Hoffman is here in studio and there are so many developments on the political front. Thank you, Gil, for being here. I want to start with a new development just in. Earlier in the week, we were covering the fact that Tally Gotlib is furious with the Likud, very upset about the lack of women representation on the Likud list and she said, "If you think I'm going to keep quiet, you are horribly wrong. So, what is the update?" >> The update is that she's going to run in a different party in the party of Itamar Ben-Gvir. Uh she'll get the number four slot in the list there instead of number 20, whatever she was going to be inside Likud and uh this is all a big game, uh Benita, because had she been in Likud, then there were ways to keep her quiet and enforce party discipline. Now that she's with another party, she can talk all she wants. She got in trouble for insulting Netanyahu, for for suggesting he was doing certain things for his own benefit at the expense of the party, at the expense of the country. And you know, that they're ecstatic in Likud to see her go, but they don't realize that it really makes no difference. She's going to talk there even louder and the Likud faction wasn't meeting anyway, so it it she's only gotten to be a bigger headache for Netanyahu. >> Is this not a setback for him, though? >> Uh it is a setback if you think that she brings votes, you know, it certainly looks like there's chaos within the party, that it's a mess over there, uh but uh Gila Gamliel, who uh was looking like she was on the outside, now she's back in and uh the Likud were waiting to see what happens with the reserved slots and Netanyahu has. He's kept his cards close to his chest >> and playing out till the 11th hour is a good thing to do when you're playing this kind of political game. I made mention earlier of a winter. He's been speaking to Israeli Channel 12 just moments ago. What is his latest message? He is certainly spicing things up across the political landscape right now. >> He isn't, you know, every time he talks he puts more handcuffs on himself. You know, he he says now he won't join a government led by Bennett. He won't join a government led by Lieberman, which, you know, might seem far-fetched at the moment, but what if Lieberman and Bennett joined together and got more seats than Eisenkot at the end of you know, they ran separately and then they got to the president uh with more seats than Eisenkot and presented themselves together as a candidate with maybe a rotation for prime minister. And then you've got a right-wing alternative to Netanyahu that could potentially form a government. Now, if Ofer Winter keeps his promise, which he like swore on Jerusalem, then he wouldn't be able to join them. He already said, as you saw at at the beginning here, that he won't join a government that will or that won't pass a law forcing ultra-Orthodox into the army before the government is even formed. That's not going to happen, either. So, he's making decisions here that appear unrealistic that might hurt him. >> He certainly is very vocal on one of the most hot-button issues in this election, and that is the draft exemption issue. So polarizing right now. Talk to us about the kinds of issues that are going to be top of mind when voters do go and cast their ballot on the 27th of October. >> So, it's looking more and more like that ultra-Orthodox issue will be a huge one. That it has never really happened before that that's been such a big issue when people vote here. And that could hurt uh Netanyahu, who made all these agreements with the ultra-Orthodox and passed some of what they wanted, not all of it. It could hurt Bezalel Smotrich if he ends up running without Ofer Winter. And then theoretically could help Winter if he crosses the electoral threshold, and there's no guarantee that he will. It could help Lieberman, it could help Eisenkot, it could help Bennett. We'll see what all the constellations are. Monday and Tuesday are the days that the lists are going to be submitted, and there's one thing that journalists and politicians have in common, which is that we don't do anything until right before deadline. >> [laughter] >> And talking about that deadline, but it's a little Smotrich. Many concerned that he won't make the threshold. Certainly, his supporters would be worried. Talk to us about his plans and his joint run with Moshe Feiglin right now. >> The finance minister is the worst job you could have if you want to make friends. You know, you got to make all kinds of cutbacks and everything. Um and uh so, a lot of people are angry at him and the also the ultra-Orthodox issue. It's his people that that got killed by disproportionate numbers who served by disproportionate numbers uh in the wars over the last couple years, and then they might punish him for it, and it could be that over winter splitting that vote could bring them both down, which would uh perhaps lead to Netanyahu being brought down. It's fascinating.