Central Vermont Career Center - September 14, 2026 [CVCC]

Yeah. Hi guys. Thanks for joining us. >> All right. It's 6 pm. >> What's that? And I'm going to call this meeting to order of the Central Vermont Career Center Board of Directors. >> First, I'd just like to welcome a new member, Emily from Har. Thanks for joining us. We're excited when you're here to represent us and I can't remember your name. >> I'm Felicia Howard. I'm the new assistant director of education. >> You're welcome. >> Been doing a lot of work and we look forward to hearing. >> Thank you. Okay. Uh comments not on the agenda. Review board agreements norms. Anybody have anything about our agreements and norms? We've just discussed those in the program quality. So you'll be hearing more about that agenda revisions or board comment any revisions to the agenda? Any board members want to make any comments? Hearing none, let's move to public comments and correspondence. Jody, what do we have? I just want to share the same that we did at quality that um superintendent for the central Vermont supervisory union Matt Feders reached out on behalf of Pain Mountain School District to ask about CBCC passibility capacity when they're thinking the feasibility of if their board decided to close Northfield and Williamtown high schools and those students were tuitioned into our Sunday schools what impact would that have on So again, reviewed my draft response to that and added a couple of pieces that I had forgotten. I'll >> just mention J's letter. >> Uh you can think Andrew also sent a very similar email today. >> Oh, okay. So we have channel husband who's hiking in the Dolanites, but she's regrets not being able to be here and she sent a letter of support for the uh lawn vote and initiation because she won't be able to sign until she gets back. And then I guess Andrew who can't make the meeting tonight also sent a letter in. He let us know he could make sent a letter. He sent an email from his support. He actually came in and signed in advance in the hopes that he would all move that morning. >> Yeah. >> If not, we have a signature. >> Excellent. And welcome Jason. any other first responders that >> you can speak to. Um both the merger committee and CISA boards have information that needs to be shared publicly. So we will link both of those to our own website for folks who are interested. So the CISA is their um web page is posted by the Fair Unified Union School District. We have a link to that already on our board page and when the merger uh committee gets up and running and has agendas and such, we'll make sure we'll share it there. >> Yeah, there's a lot of action on that front, but it's more in the planning phases and training of the facilitators uh for the CISA merger groups. Uh so there's nothing to really report on that at this point. >> How often are you all going to meet? >> I don't know yet. I'll let you know. Okay. Consent agenda. Uh need to approve the minutes from the 82426 special meeting. Have people have a chance to review the minutes. >> Second. >> I'll second. Go ahead. >> Any discussion on those units? Hearing none. All those in favor of approving minutes say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Thank you. The minutes are approved. >> All right, moving on. Number four, board reports. Uh, student representative Sophie Bugar. >> She said that she's going to be able to make it tonight. I don't know if that's online or in person. So hopefully we can come back to her when she gets here. will hold space for. We look forward to burn. And now, uh, Felicia Allard, our adult education uh, coordinator. Is that >> uh, assistant director of adult education. >> There you go. Assistant director of adult education. Okay. >> Yes. >> And I'm sorry. I wanted to meet you at your last board meeting, I believe it was. And I'm sorry I couldn't make it. I was on vacation. Um, but I have been busy and giving you just a little bit of information about what I've been up to and kind of my longterm plans. So, I don't know again I'm Felicia Allard and you may know that I was the director of Randup Technical Career Center for a few years. So, coming into this position has been awesome. Um, I had a lot of the background knowledge that I think has really helped me to position ourselves for adult education in a really nice way. Um, I have included in the packet for you a strategic plan that I developed this summer and I'm I'm doing pretty good on it. I've got quite a lot of the things accomplished. But um just to kind of point out some of the things that I've been up to, we have or I have developed an LNA program that is slated to start with its first class on October 6th. I know that's been something that was strong here in the past. And um from my regional or statewide counterparts that are doing adult ed, it sounds like a lot of folks are really struggling to get instructors. And I'm really happy to say that I have six lined up. Um so I am very hopeful that we will have the stability to make this program uh fly. Um it's been approved by the state. So we worked on the curriculum and all the documentation that was needed to get our site approved. and I am in the process of getting us approved to be an Excel testing site so that u when our students finish their LNA program they can test right here versus having to go somewhere else. Um we've been working with district six and eight you probably heard about the grant that we collaborated with them uh last year that is continued and this fall we have offered or currently in a room nearby EMT is happening. We have an advanced medical technician course starting um in a hybrid format I think in November. It might be October, not quite remembering. Um they've also got a thief class planned that's offsite. Um but all these things people register through us so it's kind of a collaborative effort. Um, in my networking over the summer, I've been busy reaching out to a lot of people in the area to try to figure out what the needs are, who wants to collaborate, who are good partners. Um, one of those folks that I reached out to was the Vermont Adult Education or Central Vermont Adult Education. I think it used to be called Central Vermont Basic Education. Basic Adult Education. Um, we are collaboratively going to be offering a prehealthcare intensive for uh folks that may not be quite ready for an accelerated program like an LNA program or an EMT program and might need a little extra support whether that's with the anatomy and physiology or whatnot. Um, so that is slated to begin in October as well. Um, and in that process, I also got CBCC um, approved as a Leoa job link site. So, we can now post to job link um, on the the state site. What else? Um, and to go classes. Those were something that I think maybe we just launched in the spring before I came on. Uh happy to report we have had two people sign up which is like great because I haven't done anything with it. Um so that's pretty impressive. Uh we've had one student sign up for a phabbotomy course and one student sign up for an interior design course. Um one is more of the technical training program and one is is simply a class things that I have in the works. Um today, in fact, I met with Steve, our auto teacher, and Vermont State University. We are looking to pilot the evening adult auto program that is going to be offered through BTSU. um it's going to bring in some financial benefit to us because we'll be leasing essentially our space, but we're also um it will work well, I think, for Steve, who is our auto teacher, to be able to also kind of point them in the right direction. They're looking for feedback to know what is the next logical step for folks. Um are we, you know, are they trying to just duplicate what's happening in the day programs? are they looking for that next level. So Steve is willingly um partnering with them and and collaborating with them. So that's kind of exciting. We hope to launch the first of that pilot in January. I've also been working with let's see here gota get this right berry economic development and um capstone to develop a program called seeds for success which is a business uh program for folks that may be thinking about a startup and want to know the ins and outs of the business plan the finances and whatnot. Um I think that's a nice dovetail into the CLNA results that I've read. Uh it sounds like next year we're going to be having a day program. So this will be a great opportunity to kind of see how that flies here in the region that will be slated to start in May just due to scheduling. Um in communication with Eric, our welding teacher, about a welding series. Um for right now, we're just looking at sort of an introductory class to sort of test the waters, but I know there's a lot of interest. We've had a lot of calls on welding. So, I think down the road hopefully what we'll be doing is developing a program, a series of welding courses that will lead to that certification. Um, similar to what Stafford has. If you want to check out their website, you can see what they do. I have given Dick Wabby a proposal for a heavy equipment operator class because he touted that he was buying all sorts of new equipment and wanted, you know, this was something he was thinking about and I felt like I could support that perhaps. Um, so we're we're kind of in communication about that. I'm waiting to hear back from him to see if he's got what we need in order to make that happen on his site. Um, I have also got a proposal out to the local appliance repair community to think about developing an apprenticeship program for appliance repair. Um, I don't know if you folks have had to have anything fixed in your house lately, but they're in short supply, right? Um, and so what I was hearing is, uh, particularly from Mark Tetro was that he wanted to do an apprenticeship program, but he just didn't have the capacity. He's just too busy. So, another example of how I can support the work of what's happening out there. Um, so we're in talks on that. That hasn't gone anywhere yet. Um, we're also in talks with Vermont State University to see if we can support their electrical and their plumbing apprenticeship programs here on our campus. Uh, I know a lot of their theory classes are online. Um, but as I'm going to talk about in a moment, there is a $20,000 Vermont Department of Labor mini grant uh that's coming up soon and its purpose is to develop free apprenticeships. So, I'm thinking that that might be the way that we kind of get started with this is to think about an evening program that's a pre-apprenticeship. Um, so that basically prepares them for that next step which would be be with GTSU and I think that's kind of it. Um, other than just I'm going to be looking at that grant um and see what we can develop there. And again, in the strategic report, there's maybe a few things that I didn't talk about. You're welcome to take a peek at it. Does anybody have questions for me? >> Um, thank you for doing this. This is amazing. So, uh, couple of questions. one would be what do you see as right now your biggest hurdles and what you need to be success a budget would be great for advertising and marketing um right now you know I feel blessed that I have the position and I think that's where we need to be right now and I totally understand that as we move forward I think we do need to look at having a little bit of a budget for marketing with materials and um I know one of the things that I was pretty successful at at Randolph was marketing. Um while there I raised the attendance to the enrollment from I think we had 105 when I walked in the door and I believe we had 175 applications left. So I know how to do that but we have to have the money to do it. So that would be a big support. Any other questions? >> He kind of took my question, but I also uh um did you uh mention uh the podcasting with Carlos? >> You know what? I think I forgot to I must have skipped over that. So, podcasting with Carlos is something that he would like to offer. Um and I know I think Jody was telling me the other day that we have someone that might be interested in doing something in the building trades, right, Adam? Um and so that also might potentially be a pre-apprenticeship kind of thing. I I think it'd be pretty neat for a pre-apprenticeship to be able to offer the NCC. Am I getting that right? Okay. Um curriculum for like the basic. Um so we'll see. You know, I'm kind of uh I'm thinking on that one right now. What is going to be the most bang for our $20,000 um in terms of actually getting people into the workforce? Did I answer your question? Hopefully I did. >> Thank you. >> Yes. >> I see Guy has a question. Hi. >> Hey, how you doing, Felicia? First of all, welcome. Uh, you know, thank you for taking the position. U, a couple of, actually a couple quick questions, and I don't know whether you can answer this, but maybe Jody can. Uh, when is the last time we had this position? >> That is definitely a Jod question. I know I can answer that. last year. Um, I actually did apply for the 50% co-op and 50% um, adult ed. And I think my words, I don't know if I said it in exactly these words, but I I knew it was a little bit unattenable. Um, so, uh, it really needs to be a full-time position, but when was the lesson? >> It was before me, guy. Um, I know that the person that was doing some of the adult ed coordinating before I got here was also the special services coordinator and I think before that it was Ruth Durky who's at the agency of education now. So, it was a while ago. >> Yeah. Well, that's that's what I thought, but I I just uh I think it's worth pointing out, you know, to the community as we go forward. Another additional advantage of what we are doing as a, you know, as a school. Uh and Felicia, in terms I really appreciate you explaining your uh collaboration. uh a couple of folks that that you might want to contact and I don't know if they're part of the group that you already have talked to, but uh the nursing home association and the long well actually probably the long-term care association with community care homes and nursing homes are so so in need of LMAS. Um, >> yes. >> And they have an association and I don't know if that's part of your collaboration. >> Uh, >> well, I haven't I haven't specifically guy reached out to them. Um, I do have two clinical sites um signed off as far as anou and that would be Mayo in Northfield and Menning in. Um, I tried to work a bit with CVMC um but I think their plate is full right now. So, I think we're in pretty good shape at the moment. >> Oh, good. Thank you. And the other the last question, sorry. Uh when you talk about uh the community college uh collaboration, does that include uh CCV? >> So, the VTSU and and CCV system are one as of right, right? I mean, >> yeah. >> Yes. So, but really the people the folks that I've been talking to are probably from the former BTC campus. Um, however, their role has now just expanded statewide. So, it's um, yes, they have a broader scope this point. So, is this a is this a an area where you're seeing the the community colleges starting to focus on in terms of the LNA piece >> there? Yeah, there is a a partnership that something was talked about at our Vatia meeting last Friday which was new to me and I need to look into it. I do believe there is some funding that has come available through CCV for LNA. Um, so it's kind of fresh off the press for me and I just need to look into it a little bit more and that would be amazing because I think it would make it much more accessible for folks. Um, I did have a high school student who reached out wanting to do the LNA program, but because high school students are in that really wonky window where they can't quite get the VSAC advancement grant, um, it's out of pocket. So, if we had another funding source to help um, provide scholarships for students in that situation, that would be wonderful. >> Thank you. Thank you, Felicia. >> Yes. Thanks, Guy. Anybody else? Just a quick question. Are you prioritizing what's in the works? You have a lot on your plate, a lot of plates in the air. How are you prioritizing? >> So, pri you can see that prioritizing healthcare was my first area. Um, one because it requires so much intensive work to get the LNA program back up and running. So, that was great summer work to be able to get done. Um, and now I'm really looking at uh, strategically what I've been hearing from industry. So, um, Lloyds, for example, plumbing and heating, I met with them at one point. They have a really great training facility at their site. Um, but the concern that they had were around their apprentices accessing their courses. Um, whether they're not offered enough, I'm not sure. So, I need to look into that a little bit more with BTSU, but that sounds like if they're having that issue, it's potentially an issue for other folks in the region. Um, so just trying to prioritize in terms of where the greatest need is and healthcare seemed like the first >> big one to chew off. >> Yeah. >> Uh, how do you balance the world for some instructors? >> So, these are not instructors that necessarily are here at the day. So, um, So when you when you mentioned Eric and and Carl, right, >> they're they're just in the planning and kind of like mapping it out for you. >> So Carl is in this in the sense Carl for the EMT and whatnot. He's actually not teaching those courses. He is the district 68 training coordinator, I believe is his title. So he's working with all of the region to develop the training opportunities. So he's kind of working in a different capacity. Um, in terms of Carlos or other instructors, I I'm letting them come to me and say, "Hey, I'd like to um because I've been a teacher and I know that it's too much to be able to be in the classroom all day, five days a week, and then do a whole load of nighttime classes. So, um, I'm letting them kind of approach me and and if they're interested, great." You know, with Otto, it was a little different because we were talking and Steve expressed interest in the conversation as we were talking about using the space. So, >> thank you. >> Yeah, you're welcome. >> Yeah. >> Um, from a financial perspective, uh, do we see this as revenue positive at some point? >> At some point, my goal is to pay for my position. I want it to be even. >> So if we have to if we have to hire staff or whatever, that would have to be in our budget or are we going to try to keep that separate? >> This adult bed staffing is definitely paid for by the horses. That's what we're doing right now. So it's not in our budget. >> Eventually Felicia Felicia's position would also be paid for by these horses, right? >> Not in our budget. I guess I was just thinking more and more on this if we're going to hire more staff to do these programs, you know, making sure that it's not the problem. >> No, it's built into the tuition. So, it's all tuition and and that I do talk about funding in the plan if you want to check it out. But, um, every class should break even. That's the tuition rate is set based on the budget that I produce on instructional costs etc. >> And notic but wear and tear on the facility and the equipment will be covered in some way by the tuition I assume. >> Yeah, there's a pretty pretty nice little cushion we're building into theou for like the auto program, right? and also language around um equipment use and what happens if Right. So, >> thank you. >> Yeah. >> So, it sounds like you're collaborating extensively with BTSU and um are is that who the are with BTSU administration? >> So, the theou for auto would be with the workforce development component of BTSU. Uh we haven't actually noou has been written yet. So that's still we're in we're still in communication about the specifics. >> Um but in the draft that I saw that Lynden was it Lyndon that has the other pilot? >> Um they definitely built in a cushion to take into account wear and tear on their building or use staffing etc. >> Okay. There's just a lot of uncertainty I think around PTSU. So >> yes, >> just a cautionary note. And then hiring hiring of uh teachers, new staff, is that part of your responsibility or who's in? >> Yeah, >> there must be some kind of protocol for that. >> Well, no, because nothing existed before me. So, uh I'm building the ship as I as I go. So, um, as of right now, it's been it's been me and I'm vetting people and checking references. Um, >> so if I wanted to sign up for the LNA program, how much would that cost me? >> 2,600. >> 2,600. And these um in the instructors, they're they're they're nurses, >> right? >> Right. But but they don't have any like education background or >> some of them do actually. Um, two of the folks out of my six have been teaching adult LNA programs, >> but it's not required. >> I think it is in the state rules. Um, they have to Well, just trying to think. Yeah, they need to have had some sort of training or oversight capacity. They have to have a certain amount of time in a long care facility. Okay. >> They have to have an RN or an LPN with similar experience. But it's not like if you hire a new CTE person, plumbing instructor who's never taught in his life, but but you hire him and then he has to like take a zillion classes his teaching license. That's not the case. >> It's not the No. >> All right. >> I caught a R. >> So you were you were coming >> Okay. Yeah. And I was coming in. That's right. >> I remember that. >> There you go. I had one more question. Oh yeah. >> Is there any interest in personal finance or um >> I think so. That is one of the things that I I know in the seeds to success she's going to touch on personal finance. Um this is Rosie Gray from Capstone that kind of convinced her to come on board with us. Um, we also have funding from the subs bank we think that's going to fund the program and also give a little bit of seed startup to the businesses that >> when I was leaving I was we were before co came um Jason went to um Burlington. >> Yes. So my wife and I were going to teach adult education class and she was going to teach French I guess finance I think came >> yeah go ahead please >> yeah uh Felicia do you know what the tuition reimbursement rates are for the like like a community care home or the hospital for LNAS >> I do not know that because I believe I believe they >> I believe they have it. >> And maybe I'm wrong. >> Actually, no. I um I think what you're saying is if someone that was hired, let's say by Mayo wanted to take the LNA class and they were already employed. Yes. The employer needs to pay their tuition. I do believe. Is that what you're asking? >> Yes. Yeah. >> What do you know? Do you know if it's a full tuition or or even more? >> You know, I don't know that it's a set rate. I just know that it says they need to be they need to pay for it. So, um my rates are right in par with what I'm seeing around the state for other CTE LNA programs. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> One more quick question. Sure. Are we cons conferring some kind of a certificate or is VTSU conferring a degree or >> it's a non-deree program and I believe it would be a certificate program through them >> through VTSU. >> Correct. >> We are essentially leasing our space >> and our teacher would be hired by them. >> Okay. >> So they're betting the teachers. >> Yes. So, you're coordinating all this. >> I am the coordinator and Right. Exactly. I think it's a good place to position ourselves right now. >> Um, while they kind of figure it out. >> Thank you very much. >> Looks like he's done a lot of work so far. >> Oh, good. Well, we keep building more. >> Also, you keep seeing people walk by because we do have EMS. >> Yeah. Yes. Speaking of which, I'm going to go do my responsibility. Make sure no one's lost. Oh, thank you so much for having me. >> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. We look forward to the next time you present. >> Excellent. >> Okay, we're on the committee reports. Facilities committee project update. Uh Jody, you want to update everybody on our facilities meeting? Most of our facilities meeting was about um getting this warning ready and the ballot ready uh for tonight's meeting and just going over Nick Sher went over the talking points manager there and see that they got printed in this were in the other packet earlier today. So, if you're looking for them, I have them extra copies. We um went over some of the the five major core talking points of listening fact that we listen to voters that the need hasn't gone away. It continues. This proposal is more affordable, smarter collaborative approach and it's an investment in the students and the workforce of central Vermont. And then it also includes some FAQs started and we expect to be adding to those over the course of the next month and a half as we engage with our community members and learn their questions. Any questions about that? >> The we didn't talk a lot about the lease in that. What we do know um is that Washington Central warranted their um ballot and it's a 30-year. So that's what ours will match. Our language will match theirs as far as a 30-year lease. We are close to having the details of that lease kind of drilled down. We're basically need to figure out what's the cost. That's really the last thing that's remaining. And we probably would um our our public information session is taking the uh facilities night of October 6th. It will happen at U32. Thought that made sense. That's where the building would be. Um, and we may run a facilities committee meeting right after that for the purpose of discussing the the lease costs and trying to get that nailed down. property taxes is going to have an impact on taxes. I mean voters are going to ask that question >> is what going to impact >> having funding this school 55 million like that >> of course >> right so so ask well it's going to raise my property taxes >> yes >> y >> how much >> you don't know >> right >> and we can't predict that >> we know that there's a high potential that we're moving to a foundation formula. >> We don't know what that looks like. >> Currently, our our budget is funded through tuition from the sending schools and direct from the ads. >> I'm just saying that that's like a that's a critical question in the news a lot. So now we're proposing another having $55 million and we can't quite pinpoint like what it is because I think the last time the 150 million was like it was a formula that that kind of told people what they would pay. >> I I remember that was a formula that was >> I think that's a that's a critical piece of information. Um >> so we used uh we basically said if we were paying it back in that year last year >> using the existing formula >> this is what it would cost if we spread the same amount across 30 years. >> What we learned was that was more divisive than helpful. It it pitted towns against each other >> because they didn't understand our funding formula in comparison to how our sending schools are funded. It's different. >> Yeah, I can see that. But I also see the other side like so they know that they don't like it. But the the flip side is like yes, your actually go up. Well, we don't know how much. So it's sort of like you know this choice between two people here. Um the other thing is like the 55 million does not include the interest >> right. So you could double it or you know maybe 100 million 97 >> that's 40 million you said last time we don't know yeah >> we go >> probably next week >> one uh one quick question which is is there anywhere that I can go to get a primer on the potential foundation formula so that if somebody asked me this is what they're talking about I could have a clue >> I'll get back to you >> yeah we'll get back to you on that it's really there hasn't been modeling it's >> I just I just like if you say foundation formula >> you'll get the same look that I'm giving you right now >> and I would love to just have a like >> trust this >> I have heard >> I have heard that most states do use a foundation formula so you might just ask AI >> you know how is it calculated how how's it work in other states >> and my second question is is there one gotcha question that you have been thinking about that we would run too. >> I think the question that we heard today from some folks was why now why not wait until all this CISA and merger activity is done. And the reality is we don't know if it's going to be done, >> right? >> A a lot could change. Nothing could change. That's true with the foundation formula potentially happening or not. We do know that even though 18 towns get to vote on this, the reality is the entire state pays for costs of education, right? Um so I I think the question needs to be reframed to say like there is so much that can change tomorrow in a year or not change tomorrow and in a year and we still have kids who are not getting in who want access. If we want our taxes to go down, we need to grow our tax base. And our kids that get into those businesses are the ones that are going to help us grow that tax base and strengthen communities. And that's really all we can do. >> And the cost of construction has gone up by 10% since last time. >> It's going Yeah. It's not going to go down. So it's going to cost more and in the interim we lose kids who wanted to come here but didn't get the opportunity because we didn't have the space >> driving up building cost >> potential. So maybe the discussion is around opportunity cost and what we're losing by not having building. Although I must say I had a conversation with my wife the other night about this and she said people are going to want to know even in Ballpark figure how much their taxes are going up. And I said, "Well, maybe it'll be a third as much as last time because it's a third the cost and everybody knows how much their taxes were theoretically going up last time." >> Yeah. Like that. >> No, >> but the question >> like some towns like I'm thinking city just had to reappraisal. If we're going to we can't tell them how much their taxes are going to go because we aren't the only in like influencer of their taxes. one their towns do. So that big bill you're paying, but other schools do. If CBC's didn't go up, if Barry or Montillar or any town didn't raise their their overall budget amount overall, your taxes will still increase because the town next to you is going down. So overall, like there's just >> we can't be wrong, but we're not going to be right. There is no >> there's no >> That's what I told her. There's no clear answer, but that's a poor answer. >> Yeah. >> For somebody who's concerned about their taxes going up. Any case, I think we should move along, but we need to really think about how to answer that question from taxpayers like Wayne suggested. How much is it going to cost me? >> You find out the foundation for it. Let us >> send us some in a conference Jod and I are going to in October, the BSA Fasma conference, we're supposed to be able to be playing with this formula itself, but that's not so maybe the end of October, but >> it might give us a little bit more >> could be the actual education tax for each town is different. That's that's convoluted also, >> right? >> Oh, yeah. Well, thank everything about every school budget is the most convoluted thing, right? That's what That's the problem is how broken our education system is and how complicated it is for the regular person to understand how these schools are being funded. And if people sitting in a room like this are as confused like that that's that's where the challenge is is that people just sort of look they they do just focus on taxes and not necessarily that this is part of a 30-year plan or however many years it is. I I know in my district we're working on things for okay, we need to try to plan for the next, you know, 20 years, not the next five years. And that that is the big that is the big ch because no matter what taxes are going to go up, whether or not whether or not this gets approved, something is going to happen. I mean, >> yeah. So, the talking points points are clear. I think Jody makes a good point. This is for the greater good. This is a public good and it's going to benefit all of us if we build this building and increase our capacity. >> Right. >> So are there any is there any more discussion on this talking point or facilities update? Any more questions? >> Guy. >> Yeah, Jody. Um, we had talked about, you know, giving the subcommittee a little bit more credit in terms of your number one talking point. And I'm just going to throw something out uh just for I'm going to run up the flag pole. Uh, and I know what you're saying, CBCAC and its partners, and I believe you're including the subcommittee in that, but I think we need to be more specific, and I'm going to, uh, suggest some language that says, uh, took the feedback seriously, and a subcommittee review the options again. Good point. Thank you. Yes, we definitely want to be talking about how the working group contributed to this >> or a community self committee uh you know subcommittee or you know that you know there were people from you know different areas. So >> a wide range of community members participated in the subcommittee who weren't you know even affiliated with the school in the annual >> I like David Delkur's statement. I think he said, you know, some of the staunchest uh people that were opposed to our program that I thought that was really >> Thank you, guy. >> Oh, one more one more thing. By the way, the the bridge had two articles about the you know the the proposal I think uh I don't know when they come out but I I certainly read it today. >> Thanks guys. >> One was part of the one was reviewing what was said at the Melier Roxbury School Board meeting and then one was from our >> Right. Yeah. They had nice quote from Scott. All right. 4 point 3.2 negotiations. What do you want to cover? >> Just a reminder, um Scott, Guy, and Jason are signed up as our negotiators. We, Michelle and I are um in the process of talking with a couple of different firms as far as supporting those negotiations for us. And so we'll we'll want to pull that group together sooner than later to talk about that. >> Are those uh attorney firms firms >> that specialize in negotiations? >> Correct. So, we're just bringing that back to the agenda because that's coming up this fall. >> When the negotiations start >> this fall, >> this fall, right, we're in the middle of fall. Okay. >> No, no, I'm sure I'm sure it has. >> It feels like it has. >> Okay. >> A representation next on the agenda. Yeah, that was >> that's Scott Guy Jason. Yeah, that guy and Jason and >> that was the local legal counsel or you go out out of state >> uh in state >> in state >> unless someone has someone out of state they want to us to interact with >> I don't know when I was the aft grievance chair the people from Massachusetts were pretty powerful but I refer and state, but it's totally up to you guys. >> All right, >> Joe. Uh, is one of the considerations uh the individual that helped us last time? >> Yes. >> Okay. I know it's Michelle's favorite. So, >> thanks, Dad. >> All right. program quality lineman. You want to take it away with program quality, please? >> Uh, so we discussed a number of different things. Um, the first was the vision. I'll go over the ones I remember first. The vision statement and the mission statement and how we wanted to put those out in four areas. And so we decided that we would put the mission statement at the bottom of letterhead and the next time we print the letterhead that the vision statement was more of a nuts and bolts with all the bullet points. So we were going to leave that as a internal document. Um, we then looked at the three goals. Um, and it or not, but uh the three goals were long-term planning, educational quality, and community engagement. And the long-term planning had a large paragraph that not only had the goal, but also how we were going to achieve that goal. We stripped that out so that the goal says the ability to serve all eligible students in our region and to provide programming that fulfills the needs of students, employers in the community. Period. That's our goal. Our educational quality goal was to provide equitable, safe and rigorous programs by strengthening inclusive curriculum, instruction and assessment across the center. That has changed. Then the third one was community engagement and to develop an engagement plan to include district leaders, program advisory boards and other career centers and general community members for the purpose of collaboration and communications. And the one thing we changed on that is we said develop a coordinated engagement plan so that we can start pulling together all of the disperate meetings and things that are happening. Um and then we talked about the core talking points and we did not get to the community engagement plan which I believe is in the big packet. That's this spreadsheet here. And I think we were going to talk about who could do some of these things, who could man some tables and populate some tables and things like that. We didn't assign anybody to anything. So, if there's something that you thought you could go to and uh Jody tells me that I do not have to go up and get the people in their face, they can come to me. >> And when she said that, I was like, "Okay, I can do that." >> Just wear your t-shirt. >> Wearing the t-shirt. Um, >> so one of the things, one of the events coming up this week is Wednesday night there is uh the Bulldock 50th anniversary celebration with the Chamber of Commerce. And we do have um five RSVPs for that. And when I reached out to Kim Bulock about potentially having other people, she said it's the more the marrier. So anyone else who wants to come, you're also invited. And that's at what time? >> I think it starts at 5:00 pm, 5 to 8 >> at Bold's 239 Bulldock Road in Middle Sex. We've talked a little bit about uh farmers markets potentially tableabling at those and I think if someone knows who's in charge of that and finding out what the cost of that would be and uh some of them are ending in September is the last some going to October and so thinking about maybe we are at a couple of farmers markets for the rest of this month into early October and then We transition to Hellas and we're at the Dun for a couple of Saturdays. Where do we need to be where we can provide information and just be visible for folks who want to ask questions somewhere >> and any other places we haven't thought about? >> Do you want to deal with the farmers market or do you want me to reach out? >> I'm planning on reaching out to co-op. >> I'll reach out to the farmers market >> if you don't mind. figure out. >> I can ask. >> Yeah. >> We'll set us up in front of 133 state or whatever. >> Yeah. >> Even if we're there just once or twice and maybe once or twice at wherever you shop, there might be a way to do a table there. I don't know. Wherever people are congregating is a good place. >> Is that it? Uh yes, that was it. >> Any questions for L? >> If you have a an engagement that should go on there, you you should have editing rights to that document. So, I'll make sure I reshare it um with folks. You can add to it. You can also write in something that you're going to attend anyways >> and where your shirt. Excellent. Thank you. Okay. Next is super superintendent report. >> I didn't write a lot on this one. I just shared some things. So, you can see our core values are up on the wall and also um up above the main office. If you walk into the foyer, you'll see the core values are listed there. They're in the hallway over here. We don't walk down that hallway for our board meeting anymore, but if you were to walk into that hallway and then there's a banner that's downstairs just past the fire doors and it has these core values. We've been talking about them with our students. What does it sound like look like to be upholding them? So, I wanted to share those with you. Uh those were adopted at the end of the last school year and we just rolled them out this year and everyone every program is off to a great start. I actually shared pictures from our programs with the new instructors. So you can see the plumbing program um they were the first to complete their OSHA 10 this year and got into the shop last week. We have the early childhood education program which is brand new and they were outside doing some activities that they might do with students and some team building. And then we have a new instructor in medical professions and they were uh practicing their vitals taking vitals and just care of patients and check in that day. So it's been great every week going into programs and bringing the iPad along with me so that I can take photos of what I see across programs. And Seth, you're new to the center as our new assistant director this year. I bet it's been exciting to them walk through programs. >> Yes, it's been really great to see um the excitement when kids they've been doing their ocean their safety trainings and then the teachers have been splitting it up and spending some time in the lab doing what they can do and kids just lay up. They go down there, they're learning how to identify tools, they're learning gate voicing, all sorts of really um, you know, applicable hands-on thing, and they're so excited to get in there. I've seen I've seen a range of of different activities from uh, cosmetology already. like doing stuff with the hair and moving along with um with some of their programs. Um as well as in the electrical program, they're beginning to lay it out and have a bit of a competition for creating their their own room that they're going to end up working on for uh wiring. Um, it's been been really exciting to see all the different stuff in this show and the welding too that you go in there and that let's just say it's electric. >> Electrical is doing building trades right now. They're framing and the welding is electric. Yeah. >> It's good to point out the salon is open. >> Yes. >> And so anyone needing a haircut can make an appointment. If I had more air, I might anything on more on CISA update? >> Uh, CISA, we had one meeting and the next one is in October. There was a separate committee that was um tasked with bylaws and my understanding is they're coming back to the full season board to do the bylaws that they did not create them. So you went to the meeting >> the first meeting of the CISA I was at residency so I went to the first 20 minutes and then the I was not part of the bylaws committee >> probably fine you missed it >> right oh business manager report Michelle >> what I Oh, let's see. Oh, human resources. So, we still have that outstanding lab assistant position. It's to support building trades, automotive, welding. They are expecting to have interviews in the next week or so. Uh really this position, it's unlike the other lab assistant positions. the other lab assistants really support all classrooms or at least a cluster of classrooms where this one is really specific to the heavy trades because the funding is from the congressionally directed funds and so the point of that is to increase access. So it's really talking about possibly doubling a program or allowing more students into a single program. So um it's taking a little bit longer than we thought but we're still hoping to get there. this year's updates. There's nothing for me to update you on right now. We've started at least thinking of the budget for next year at 428. Typically in the fall, we meet with teachers and one-on-one. Joe's doing that this year and I'm kind of coming in on the back end. So, we will see. But we will have some really we need to start doing that sooner than later. I think there are some pretty big things to talk about besides just this bond that will be >> um for note the Perkins grant remember we only get a portion allocated in the fall or when it first comes out and then it's reallocated later on this fall. So it does look like we've overspent. The FY25 audit was finalized was over the summer actually. I think it was August, just didn't get to it the last board meeting. Um, there was no audit findings that were identified. One thing that I wanted to point out though was the um the fund balance. When we became a district, uh, our first year, we had three $539,000 in this fund balance and we continued to increase it to $650,000. At that time, we decided that we were going to use that fund balance to help build the welding program. And so, we used part of that in FY25 and FY26 because it was over a summer. So, our audited fund balance at the end is down to $284,000. So, I don't think that's necessarily a level of of concern. We did talk about what we as a district thought we would be comfortable with. um it's getting a little bit low. We've also used that fund balance to support building these programs that are cost half a million 34ers of a million dollars. So when we think about adding new programs, what we think about is some building updates that we might need to do. We just need to be conscious that we're not going to we have a little bit of a fun balance we can use, but nothing substantial like we've had in the past. So our FY25 was the 284. for a being audited right now for FY26. So I do think there'll be a slight increase but nothing like we've had in the previous years. We did a lot better job of budget to actuals after the first year or two that we were here. So I think it's it's great but again it takes away from our fund balance. Um just something to think about. >> Great question. Do you think we should have a higher fund balance? >> Yes. And how do we >> it's tricky >> realize that? >> So it's tricky. We have to um reconcile at the end of the year and our allowable tuition and our announced tuition have to be within 3% of each other. So unless the voters would like to approve us setting a specific number aside to put towards a fund balance. Usually it's a committed fund balance. Like if the voters say, "No, we want you to put $100,000 aside for facility upgrades or something specific," they usually have them earmarked. Um, so I mean, we could potentially do it that way or again, if we're usually within that 3%, we have a little bit that we can always bring over. And so that's done well for us in the past where we just added a little bit every year, but then we took on that the welding project for again over half a million dollars and kind of slash that fund. So it kind of I think we should have more in it, but I want to make sure that we have plans for the money that's in it. Like we can always spend the money like I have I have plans for this money. I'm sure we all do individually, but we need to kind of come up with a plan of what do we need and what's the goal and how long do we have to get there? >> One followup question if you don't mind. If we're if we fall short somewhere, do we pull from a different fund or do we use this fund balance? >> So, right now it's all in an uncommitted fund. >> Okay? >> As in no one has told us, we haven't put it to voters. one has told us that we have to commit it to a certain certain project. Um we could go about that. Um we've usually always used it for facilities. Um but we could pull it if we had if we came short our budget. We could authorize the use of these funds or again if we came sure we over spent our budget we would build back our spending schools. something happened and they needed to hire. I mean, as long as it's explainable, but we never add to the our our do I want to like that would just not >> I would agree. >> Yeah, I I don't think that like I think we need to be really and and we do towards the end of the year we really I mark out specifically what's that 3% threshold. you know, overall six% because I can go 3% either way. But I really mark it and say, okay, when are we close? What are we gonna do with it? >> One more quick question if you don't mind. >> Sure. I don't think it's appropriate, but given that we're charging out for adult ed and I don't know that we've established those prices, is there a way to make sure that that covers some of our administrative fees those so if there is additional monies from that can go into whatever needs to be covered. >> So there's a couple different things is one the adult ed one fund is separate. We keep it separate. This is our general fund. >> Keep the adult ed fund separate. So, it's revolving right now. It it should be besides the administrator cost that um isn't fully paid for yet. It should be a net zero. Our business is not to make money. We should never we shouldn't be bringing in tens of thousands of dollars. But we do also when people are using our equipment, we charge 18%. Because we have the facility cost. So we're paying for electricity. We have very nice expensive equipment. So we are getting reimburseed for it. But I'd say all in all we're our goal is zero. >> Yeah. >> We don't Yeah. >> So we So yes and no, right? >> Yeah. >> Yes. We want to earn back what we use in our in our we're spending in our general fund, but no, we're not stacking this other fund. >> Yeah, I had a question. >> U question, but Todd, I really appreciate your your question about the fund balance. Um, but you know, I just want to say I'm I'm a glass half full kind of guy and our glasses at least half full. Uh probably not as full as we'd like it to be, but uh you know certainly appreciate that. Um I just want to thank Michelle and her team for a positive audit report which you know was no small feat in today's you know you you you did a lot of changes this year. Uh so I want to commend you for that. I I don't think uh we've given you enough credit for you know people go okay so it's a positive audit report but you know there have been some audit reports that haven't been positive so uh really appreciate that from my perspective >> thanks >> thanks guys seconded I'm sure all of us you know we appreciate you >> thank you yeah that was the biggest takeaway from the the next reports that you have listed are all just the formality of the reports. They have to give us the financial statements. They have to provide you with a management letter saying, you know, at a management level, this is what we did and the governance letter. And again, all of them are just saying that this is things that we tested. This is all the things that we've looked at and there are absolutely no findings. There's no recommendations. We did. And I I mean to guy's point I think I should also say RHRSmith who's our auditing team is amazing. So we had an auditor auditing team for two years and then they switch it on you and this last year was the first year working with the new auditing team and we have them again for FY26 and it's pretty amazing just getting to work with different people and really it makes me feel good having so many eyes on our books that I can provide these reports and feel like 100%. It's great. >> Thank you. >> They also, did I tell you this? They when they were here, they had they did question some things, of course, like that's their job to push back. And some things like this couldn't explain to them. So, we actually had them go on one of the eighth grade tours, but we were touring that week and I made them go on it so that they could see everything that we were doing and they could understand like why do you have vehicles that have no value to them? like, "Well, we really don't. We just Yeah, they don't have anything." Or, you know, our inventory, why does it say lots? And I was like, "Because look, like we can't we buy broken things so we can fix them, but they are have no resale value. There's nothing." So, anyway, it was really interesting. They were they were lovely people. And then it was nice for them to see everything that we do. the inventory with lots being like screws and nails. Screws and nails and you know I mean even hammers like I I don't know in the building alone what do we have 107 of them maybe? >> That's great. >> Yeah. It was fun. >> Good. Well, you got to have fun. >> Y anything else? >> That's it for me. >> Fabulous. Okay. On to number five. It's 7:10 p.m. Oh, it's 7:08. We're right on time. >> Pretty close. >> My goodness. More discussion and action items. >> Bisby proxy. What do we do with that? >> Um, every year we nominate someone. We'll also have someone for uh behind as well. So we nominate whoever is going to the conference to be our voter for the visb proxy and then we'll also have a beehive one. I think in the past uh the board chair has been the one that's the visb proxy and I've been the proxy for beehive or it's flipped. I'm not sure which it was but we need to nominate someone to do that for their annual meeting. But that happened during that one day conference conference. Yeah. >> Okay. Is anybody else going to that conference besides me? >> What's the daily? >> You can dress up as a board member. Okay. Well, I'm planning on being there, so I'll do whatever you tell me to do. >> It's what the board says. >> What the Okay. Nominate Jody and myself. >> One of us. >> One of us will be visit and the other one will be hot. >> I nominate Todd for Visbet and second. >> All those in favor? Any opposed? >> Okay. Thank you for the nomination. We'll do our best. >> Do we do we go over those next time? >> We can. They're in here. >> They're part of this package. >> But we can definitely we have time to do that at the October meeting. Don't we have to >> so he has a sense of what the board >> wants for each one. >> You have time to read it. We'll do that at the next meeting. >> Yes. >> We need a choice. >> I guess there's a choice. >> You get to vote >> to approve it. Yeah. >> You vote on each one. And the first year I went and we had a one that we were ambiguous on >> position. That's the BSBA positions if they have any. We haven't seen those yet. >> Yeah, that was fun. >> Also, this time in your board packet for the first time, I did put possible motions in there just in case you find that helpful. Let me know if you want to see that in the future or not. Oh, it seems like helpful. >> Okay, so next we're going on to appointment to the merger committee. That has to be an official appointment. Would anybody like to uh nominate somebody to be on the merger? >> Well, Emily's new to the board, so maybe she'd like >> Just kidding. I think we should self-disclose, Todd, that you filled out the survey and you've appointed yourself. >> I did. >> So, we've already >> I follow Jod's orders, >> so I'm already on it, but if anybody else would like to take my place, I'd be happy to. >> Yes. >> I have a question and maybe you could answer this, Julie. Um there's talk about adding um like the B USB might have a second. Have they talked about uh CTE having that as well or is it just one per um and correct? We are not voting and while there are there may be potential for additional folks to be added the recommendation um from the agency as far as I know and from the BSA has been you appoint >> and if you if later we can add to that great right now which is one >> and no discussions take place formally with the larger community only the training is taking place it other discussions. >> Yeah. Yeah. But I didn't I haven't heard anything recently. >> Yeah. The the recommendation that's come back is just while there might be opportunities later to add more members right now and they didn't want us more than one. >> So we need a motion to appoint me to the merger committee. All those in favor. >> Yes, guy. >> I Oh, he said I Okay. >> I thought maybe Guy wanted to be on that. All right. So, motion passes. >> Thank you. >> Happy to happy to serve. Um policy updates. 5.3. >> So, last time we had the first reading of the cardiac emergency response plan and I thought brought to you the plan that Carl put together. Um, he is our emergency services instructor. He's the person who does all the training, coordinates all the training for district six outside of here. He works in the field um whenever he's not working here. And uh the recommend you asked me to go back because there were two separate pieces of this from the agency of education for the model policy and legal council said just adopt the model policy. Don't go out on your own because you might get in trouble and what what really happened is that Carl took both those policies and put them in one. And I recommend that we still move forwards. I think that's going to be much more succinct and appropriate to what we need than what the agency developed alone. Is that because Carl's is relevant to our facility and our programs that >> and and I understand that legal council is always going to advise you to go with the model policy because >> liability, right? They're always going to air on the side and caution and just you can't get in trouble if you've done the model. But the model is encompassed in what Carl did. It's just put into one instead of two. And I'm fine if you disagree with me. >> Well, let's see if we have a motion uh to put on the table to approve a second reading. >> I'll make that motion. >> Second. Any discussion on that motion? >> Yes. >> I can't I can't find it. that when you say he are they separate like you can pull them apart and that there's one and then the other or they kind of merged so that language is mixed. >> I think they're merged so the language is mixed. You can see because you have the documents you can see the similarities in >> because if I don't know how like if if they were able to pulled apart it might be because we can always have more and that's that's better for us but if we're asked to kind of undo it it might be easier to have it already undone, but I don't know if that's going to work for for >> he said he could pull them back apart or >> we can absolutely go with the model because they are merged together. You can see the same like tables in Carl's that you see in the model policy. He basically anything that he had left out that is in the M policy he pulled into his policy. >> So is the language consistent then? >> Yeah. >> What kind of repercussions would we be looking at if there's a flaw found in this combining of the policies? Like what what could we be facing as a consequence? That's a really good question. I don't know what the answer to that is. My thinking is this policy is not going to be tested unless we have an incident where someone can't get an AED uh can't save a person. It's it's going to be around that happening and not necessarily the policy itself. But then if there is a disaster in that situation then it may be well your policy doesn't match the policy. I don't know the consequences for >> you separated. >> So in other words there's a risk. also think that because our policy is much more robust and it's very clear actionable items. If we were ever not to follow all policy, that's when we're at the mo that's when we're at risk. There's a policy we don't follow it, that's when there's the most risk versus, you know, if we have this base policy, this other policy and it doesn't it's not very clear, we followed it, right? >> Yeah. What is the training that has to happen for like staff to know they're following? Because it's great that this procedure exists, but how do you make sure that it is is being followed so that we can avoid, you know, god forbid somebody actually has to grab one of those kits? You know, what's in process to make sure that that training is occurring. All of our staff are certified um in stop the bleed first aid and CPR in the 80s and that training happened this August. So we're certified for the next two years and Carl and one of our adult instructors former daytime instructor Bob both provided that training for our staff. Jason, do you have a question or comment on this policy? >> No, I don't. >> Okay, thank you. Just wanted to make sure that still there. Uh, any further discussion? >> Want to vote on this? You want to bring it back? Yeah. >> Okay. the motion to approve. That's a fixed process. >> We have the motion. >> Approving the second reading. >> Okay. Of Carl's version. >> Good. All those in favor of approving this motion say I >> Any opposed? Motion passes. >> So, we approved the second reading. We didn't necessarily approve the adoption. So, are we bringing it back in the third time for adoption? I'll do motion to adopt. >> Usually we approve second reading and adoption in the same. >> So can we just do a motion now to adopt? >> Yes. >> Yeah. So I move to adopt the plan created by >> I'll second it. >> Any discussion? All those in favor say I. I >> any opposing? None. The motion passes and we've adopted this version. >> Congratulations. >> You did a great job. >> Thank you. >> You did a great job. Yeah. >> All right. have first reading of BSDA policy on students who are experiencing housing insecurity. >> There's actually three policies here um that they've updated and so there's the students who are experiencing housing insecurity. Um I showed you the edit. It's very small in there. There's a just a remove one section of it. So it's pro out there. I don't think I added the edits that were made in the student drug and alcohol piece. I can look that up. And then there were also updates to the capitalization of assets. So I can we can either approve the first readings and I can bring back the revisions for you um or we can just table them until next meeting. what people know how to do. >> This is all pretty standard reminder or video we have. So, if you're on the um the board meeting document and you click on the link, you can look at version history and see the edits that were made. But I did not print those out, so I apologize for that. I I move first reading of these policies and um you know we can make any corrections for second reading. >> We have a second. >> I'll second it. >> Thank you. Okay. All those in favor. >> Three policies. You're moving to seven. Okay. >> Any opposed? Okay, we approve that and move on to the segment. Thank you. Uh, next 5.4 publicformational hearing, warning, and notice. Anybody would want to make a motion? Uh, I motion to approve the board. I don't I don't remember what the policy is. You have you have to like actually read it and then it gets approved. >> The suggested motion is I move to approve the public information hearing warning and notice for October 6 at2 Middle School at 6 p.m. >> Yes. >> Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Any discussion on that motion? Is that during one of the board meetings? >> No, that's our facilities committee meeting. >> Okay. So, so theoretically, who's responsible for inviting the public to that meeting? >> We are. We warn it. It goes paper. >> Okay. They've also warned it. Washington has also warned it. >> Okay. Good. stick it on the city hall and stuff like that. >> No, I >> second. >> Emily >> Emily second. >> No, Emily moved. >> I moved. >> Oh, yeah. >> Okay. Any further discussion on that? All those in favor of approving that motion say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Okay. Motion passes. >> Sixformational. All right. Moving on to the important ballot language. We have a motion to approve the ballot language for November 3rd election. >> I'll make a motion. the ballot appointment. >> I'll second. >> Thank you. Uh any discussion on that language? I assume that as usual with these sorts of things, it's been read over by, you know, what the rules are and the proper language and all that. >> Yeah. >> And we were able to change two words. >> Everything else we wanted to delete, we could. >> The truth is actually ready. So, as soon as you all approve it, I can actually send it to print. It will have an orange top >> as our uh budget ballots have in the past so that folks know it's from us. >> Good. Okay. All those in favor of your ballot language uh for November 3rd election say I. I. >> Any opposed? Motion passes. Excellent. Okay. You can print those. Uh, everybody's got a signage, too, right? >> Yes. Here. >> Hey, wait. Now you can sign it. >> And what is the purpose of these signatures? just to show our support or that we approve it. >> Okay. >> Be on the internet again. >> Getting bigger. >> It is. >> I know. Guy, you said you'd be in tomorrow to sign it. Jason, are you gonna be able to sign it or um if I send it with Seth to the Twinfield open house tomorrow? Is that closer to you? Uh, I actually have another schoolboard meeting tomorrow. >> Open forum. >> When do I have to sign it by? >> Once you get enough of the wet signatures, I can then stop your wet signatures. >> Okay. Michelle says she can send it to you on Doc Sign. So, we'll we'll get to it >> right after. >> Yep. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Yeah, good. Some of the others might be too. >> Yes. Yeah, but I have to go one at a time because I don't want anybody to sign a document that everybody else. >> Yes. >> And then the towning Anybody have any future agenda items they want to put on a future agenda? >> We have one more. >> We have another >> We don't have any. >> I'm on the wrong document. We don't have any um staff and personnel updates >> because we don't have that lab assistant nomination yet. I think we interp >> just a question on that. Is that holding anybody back? Are you able to operate effectively? >> We're we're operating effectively. We're in good shape right now. What it holds back is expanding a program with those funds, which is would have happened if we could have done that before the first two weeks of school. It's unlikely we'll add this. >> Do we still have to find Yes, but we're gonna have to show how we add students to the future. I think we we consider the training year. Um you're all >> Yes. >> Any further discussion? Any questions? >> Actually, Jody, I I have a comment. I just want to commend you on, you know, the hiring um and for you know posting it on Facebook and I've shared it and and uh you know I get a lot of uh really positive comments. So you know congratulations to the you know to the staff. >> Seth Marino has never been as popular as he has with this hire in that Facebook post. So thank you for sharing Any other comments or questions or >> Yeah, I would just say that since we are finishing up before 8 o'clock, if you have to go on Washington Street between Elm Street and Patterson, you should be able to get there. Uh, but it's closing at 8:00 PM for night paving. So, we have to go around otherwise for those of you that need that. >> If you go up street and crossent >> what? >> He did it. I need to get ready. >> There you go. >> Way to show up in your first meeting. >> Yeah. >> Thanks for showing up.