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Sandrine Svenier, founder of the Golden Age Spiritual Ministry, explains that her innate ability to connect with non-physical beings was respected by her family, allowing her to ground into these realities without external dismissal. After a period of fear and fragmentation during childhood, she reactivated her gifts through training in spiritual mastery, learning to navigate other realities safely through the heart rather than leaving the body via astral travel. She describes her current state as "trans-channeling" her own Acturan self—a sovereign, crystalline dragon lineage—allowing her to embody high-frequency beings without being possessed by external entities.
The return of dragons is presented as a pivotal moment for humanity's ascension, representing a shift from distorted power dynamics to sovereign integrity and bold bravery. Sandrine clarifies that these are not terrifying creatures but liberators working with the 11th dimension to help humans reclaim their mission. The transcript also addresses historical claims regarding Admiral Richard Bird's 1940s Antarctic expedition, interpreting it as a pre-ordained event where the crew accessed a parallel reality of an ascending civilization. However, because the military intended to exploit resources rather than learn from love, they encountered the "descending" side of that reality instead, leading to psychological breakdowns and a subsequent withdrawal.
The North and South Poles are identified as high-vibrational portals protected by ice coded by Neir giants; the melting of this ice releases trapped information and codes into the global water system. Inner Earth is described as Gaia's heart, housing various civilizations (including dragons, ant-beings, and giants) that filter visitors based on their frequency of love versus greed. Ultimately, Sandrine emphasizes the unified field of Gaia, where actions affecting the physical planet, animals, or oceans create immediate ripple effects throughout all dimensions and realities.
The section argues that Gaia and all living beings are one atom within God's greater body; therefore, ignoring pain or suffering in any part of the system causes it to grow until attention is paid. The speakers urge listeners to stop choosing pain and the "addiction to dissension" by desacralizing their hearts, instead promoting life through micro-actions like marching for water or rejecting harmful technologies like new AI systems that consume vast resources and abuse the planet. They emphasize that taxpayers fund these destructive data centers and that humanity must transition to free energy methods that honor Gaia. Listeners are encouraged to feel anger and rage against a nonsensical world but channel this fire into pacifist protests rather than violence. The transcript asserts that every individual is a powerful, multi-dimensional galactic dragon who has already risen and is needed by the world. To activate their "crystalline blueprints" and awaken dormant DNA strands (eventually reaching six strands), individuals must consciously accept their mission, change their habits and identity, and allow their divine genome to reformat their carbon-based DNA until it becomes the main operating system. The primary obstacle preventing collective ascension is self-doubt and focusing on brokenness; instead, people are invited to move with curiosity, faith, and bravery rather than feeling like impostors. Cendrine shares her goal of witnessing humanity pivot into an upward spiral of ascension before her own transition. The segment concludes by clarifying that dragons are returning not to rescue humanity, but to awaken the sovereign fire within us so we remember we are never powerless, separate, or merely human.
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It was already respected in our
knowledge to have non-physical beings to
have other realities. They were already
educated on that level beyond anything I
I had ever felt. And that I kind of I
had to familiarize myself with and be
opened enough to receive the connection.
So I had the capacity to ground into
that because I was not hearing a
programming for my external environment
that was dismissing that or making that
something woo or crazy. So, I think a
lot of people are ready to take the next
level to their mission.
>> What if channeling is not a rare gift
reserved for the chosen, but it's
actually part of humanity's original
design? Stay with us because today
Sandrina is here to reveal how to access
your infinite self and high council of
light. Reactivate the galactic
intelligence within your DNA and
understand why dragons are appearing so
powerfully now as humanity approaches a
pivotal threshold in its ascension.
Sandrine Svenier is the founder of the
golden age spiritual ministry and the
visionary leader of harmonic ascension.
She was born awake with the ability to
connect with non-physical beings and
other realities. Sandrine underwent
profound initiations before consciously
claiming her gifts. She teaches advanced
technologies of sovereign crystalline
ascension, guiding multi-dimensional
souls to channel their infinite self and
high council of light. Embody their
highest destiny and move as dragons with
bold bravery and powerful unshakable
faith. Today we're going to explore the
architecture of channeling, the
reactivation of our galactic blueprint,
the return of dragon consciousness,
and what humanity may be preparing for
and becoming.
Welcome to Dare to Dream. I'm Debbie
Dashinger, your host, where we explore
the extraordinary intersections of
creativity, consciousness, purpose, and
the lives that inspire us to see
ourselves differently.
Srine, I welcome you to the Dear to
Dream Show. It is so great to have you.
Go ahead and unmute yourself and say hi.
>> Hi, Deb. Hi, everyone. Thank you so much
for having me. I'm so excited to be
here. Yeah, I am thrilled that we're
doing this. Um, you're so right, as you
know, for my conversation and I think
for what my listeners and watchers are
coming to expect from the show and grow
from the show. So, you've had an
extraordinary experience and I'd love
you to share some of that with the
audience. your inception as a human so
to speak that you're born awake you're
able to connect with non-physical beings
and other realities which for many of us
is pretty fantasmical
and then you go on a journey and
reactivate your abilities you say yes
this is who I am how did you know how to
distinguish between imagination and
infinite self or the high council of
light or even a non-physical presence
that maybe wasn't aligned with your
sovereignty. What were the clear markers
for you of an authentic high integrity
connection?
>> Oh, what a rough bound and precise
question, Deb. I love this. So, what's
interesting is that I never questioned
what was happening because it was
happening from the start and so
naturally that I never questioned as a
child if I was truly connecting with one
being or another. But the thing is that
it happened in the intimacy of my heart.
So if people have watched the movie the
six sense when these little kids see all
of these dead people that it was not
like that. Thank God because otherwise
very fragmenting right. No it was
happening in different ways. I would say
mostly um at night time or when I would
be in isolation
and I always it was just so natural. I
always felt it was always the they were
not really subject of conversation that
people people were having saying this my
mom was really awoken and my dad too. So
I already had a a bringing that was very
different. So it was already respected
and knowledge to um to have non-physical
beings to have other realities. They
were already educated on that level. So
I had the capacity to ground into that
because I was not hearing a programming
for my external environment that was
dismissing that or making that something
woowoo or crazy. My mom had many psychic
clairvoyant friends. So did my dad and
they did a lot of training in different
things themselves only. It's interesting
because I remember that it's like they
had their adult life and the things they
were doing and I was a child just
observing. I was very introverted. I was
really, you know, watching and then life
happens. Debie, as we know, you know,
like life gets really challenging. My
parents had a horrible time
and everything and so I went down the
rabbit hole of having to choose. I could
not function. It's very challenging when
we come to humanity. We have to learn
what's proper, what's not proper, how to
hold oursel, what's polite to say all of
these rules, you know. So a little human
being has already so much to learn from
earth. On top of that I had all of these
experiences. So I chose to close myself.
I was praying close close. And by the
age of 12 I moved to a city. I could not
be contacted the same way anymore and I
went down the rabbit hole of human but I
still had experiences like that only. I
was scared. It was fragmenting me. Uh I
did not want to learn about that. Um it
was just the human journey.
>> Yeah.
>> But then there came a time you know
there comes a time and I think our
audience would relate to that as well as
yourself. There is a moment when our
power or gift our mission the truth of
our divinity bangs at the door and we
cannot ignore it. We have this this
electricity these feelings these dreams
these sensations these strange
experiences happening and it was like
what's this? And so it started happening
more and more vividly to me until I was
like, "Okay, that's it. I'm gonna train
myself." And so I did. And uh very
quickly I realized that um actually my
training started for I've had trainings
for as as as long as I can remember into
the art of spiritual mastery. So I was
just remembering myself in other lives,
parallel reality, future realities. And
so this is how I started identifying
that actually is just unlocking
connection with my infinite self. People
could call it higher self over soul.
When I connected with that, it was safe.
I was safe to be me. I was safe to be
within my gift because my infinite self,
my higher self knows the way our soul is
like I've been there. I've done that. I
master the thing. Just chill and learn
from me. And so that's what I did. I
learned from my own self in a way.
Wow. Okay. I'm curious when you talk
about other realities that you have this
awareness past lives, future lives.
So that feels like one aspect, but when
you talk about the ability to contact or
be in other realities. So aside from the
awareness of the existence of these, are
you able
I have to come up with the right word
because it's not propel but are you able
to portal into another reality and is
that a choice at will or is it connected
with one of your lives? Talk about that
and then what is that like if you can do
that?
>> Yes. So I understand and here it's
something that might be a little bit
controversial controversial but that
might bring longer conversation you know
and for people to contemplate this I
don't do astral travel and actually I am
not very fond of it. So if you want
there are some people that are quite
famous or like maybe not famous but some
people are really coded for that. So
it's like it's the art it's their
mastery and they freaking nail it. And
then there is everyone else who sees
that and wishes to do that and starts
learning that. And this is cataclysmic.
I can I have seen so much fragmentation.
People basically try to leave their body
when all I am about is like we we're
here to bring in the body into the
embodiment
into being really grounded in the self
because we are electrical beings. We are
powerful beyond measure. Leaving the
body to go there. Some people doing
great with mastery. They have amazing
results. Wonderful. But for me, I I
approach and I teach and I train my
people. We're going through the body. So
inside, so we go through the heart,
which is the safest place. This is the
most intimate protection that we could
ever have. This is our own self and we
navigate through the heart. It's like we
open doors and then we it's like um if
you want it could be seen as a
visualization or as a meditated
meditation upon that there is a level of
depth that we can tap into and that we
feel into as we connect to the body
responding to things that we perceive
that we feel and to all of these
extraordinary activations we receive
from our teams as we navigate it makes
it so alive so vivid and it's actually
relatively easy that I find really
empowering for people because they feel
safe. It is not a lot of technique
trying to leave the body which can
create all sorts of challenges in itself
and
>> we learn to discover what the heart
wants to show us. So if we're interested
in galactic lives we're going to go in
the heart but then we have a multitude
of connections like I'm originally from
Belgium. I do not live there anymore. I
live in New Zealand but I love visiting
the United States and Europe. So we are
also intergalactic international souls
in a way. So when you go into the heart,
your soul knows what are the lives that
are the most relevant for you now to
learn about to feel into because it's
not just about I love knowing that I
have had lives you know with the Lyan
star nation star nation going to see the
appearance being with the dragons but I
trust that my heart chose me which lives
are the most important for me to visit
to feel into and to activate these codes
within me for my current life, my
current reality, my love life, my
finances, my service, my purpose, my
connection with my children, with Gaia.
So I go about like really bringing the
multi-dimensional in the here and now.
So in a way when I talk about portals
and creating portals, we can do it in so
many ways. But for me, the heart is our
portal. And this is as we navigate into
the heart, we access through our heart a
multitude of multi-dimensional
experiences and serves that are relevant
to us in the now. This is also why it's
a neverending journey. There is always
more. We are infinite beings. There's
always something more we can discover,
uncover, and activate within which is I
find the greatest way to live, you know,
which is like so exciting.
>> Agreed. Yeah. Well, that's amazing. And
I agree with you that there are dormant
species, if you will, that we've been
connected with that show up for profound
reason on this particular journey in
this incarnation. And when I uh when you
and I have been together at events, when
I introduce you, if we're going to do a
panel or something, I have said thus
far, uh this is Sandrine and she
channels the Octurans. But is that true?
Is it much greater than the octurions
what's coming through you?
>> Yes. So what's interesting is that when
I was reactivated in trans channeling
that was about seven years ago. Um so I
was just doing psychic healing and in
quantum journeys past life travel and so
on before but all of a sudden as I was
facilitating one of them I started
sweating profusely. I I started speaking
another language. My hands were moving
and I could really feel like oh my god
this is this is a g this is something
inside of me
>> and for two years I could create with
the acturans as external beings that I
would channel and one of them would come
I would feel one of them would come in
my body and I would trans channel but
then two years after they told me
something else is coming
and you are now going to not have this
beautiful being being from the fifth
dimension coming inside your body.
you're now ready to trans channel
another being. It was like okay another
acturian higher dimension I'm I'm in.
And when I started transitioning it's
quite really different because it was
coming from within. I did not have a
body in and so it took me a bit of time
because my mind would not comprehend
this nor accept this because I had
limitations belief system that were
preventing me from accepting what you
know like beings of the galactics they
tell us incredible things and we are
like no no no I cannot beat this. I
cannot be that. And so they told me
you're actually transing yourself.
You're trans channeling your Acturan
self which is you know an Acturan body
and Acturan frequency but you activate
it within you and this is how you feel
this and this is why I feel all of them
and they also share that this is how the
transing I do is so energetic. It is so
embodied. It's really um when I trans
people can feel it especially through
activation. So I would say that in this
instance I try and challenge the actors
but when I'm there
we communicate in diplomacy with a
multitude thousands of beings as they
need to come and share. So we can be in
you know relationship with dragons or
other acturans or mother Mary or the
peladians and so on.
>> Cool. Great. Well, you bring up dragons,
and I love that some of what we're
talking about today and channeling about
today is the uprise of the dragons. I
mean, it certainly happened in my life
over the last several years in a qht
experience where I literally very
unexpectedly had a lifetime as a dragon
to some of the things surrounding us as
we speak right now. a giant white onyx
head of a dragon or I've got this little
one right here next to my whole setup.
But there's something for me profound
this archetype if you will or uh this
intensity because there's a remembrance
with dragons. It's happening in cultures
and dreams, visions, meditations. So why
are the dragons returning to the field
right now? Why is its energy emerging so
strongly at this time and what role are
they playing in humanity's ascension?
I love this. This is such a wonderful
question that I could share about for
hours because I get so excited with
this. So again, what's interesting is
that there's so many extraordinary
people who talk about dragon, different
lineage, different colors, different
origin. And what I would like to share
with you and our audience is that when
you start connecting with dragons or
also galactic beings, I would love to
invite you to really feel into your
experience and validate it already in a
way that for example for me when I have
worked with dragons, it's not so much
that they were telling me I'm an emerald
dragon from there or from there. It was
just one enormous frequency power beyond
anything I can have I had ever felt. And
that I kind of I had to familiarize
myself with and be opened enough to
receive the connection as a sovereign
connection because dragons are most
sovereign beings. I mean like you know
they are all sovereign but the dragon
they hold this pristine ferocity of
lineage that is in alignment with the
frequency rays they work with with the
lineage they come from with the realm
they come from. Dragons are present in
so many realms, so many realities, but
also so many dense city fields that the
first dragon that I connected with and I
think a lot of people would might see
that is like the terrifying
scary one. And when people start
perceiving dragons coming back, it's
often a sign that
they there is something awakening inside
of them about this boldness, this
bravery, this space, this aspect of like
do not f up with me. This is my power. I
was I came to change the world and I
tend to do that. But a lot of the time
and it was absolutely my case. I was
like, whoa, I don't want to be
terrifying. I don't want to destroy
things. because I don't know how to
handle this. So the initiation comes
into learning about our power to feel
safe in our power. What power means
there's a lot of deconstruction. So a
lot of dragons are coming back now
because our relationship with power in
humanity has become so distorted. I mean
like look at the authorities ruling the
countries the financial system and so
on. We need to have a good clearing and
we need to have a really good
reconnection to certain level of
sovereignty, integrity and really high
frequency. And when a dragon comes, I
mean, nobody wants to mess up with a
dragon. So when someone is activated in
dragon energy, what a power, what an
electricity. The boundary is already
there. There is a certain way that the
person carry themsel. But it is not to
be terrifying and to destroy life. We
are not Galis's dragon in the game of
thrones, you know. No, we are dragons
that are the lineage that work with this
11th dimension mosha dragon. They're a
crystalline dragon. They're dragon that
come to liberate humanity and they come
in waves. And now I truly more and more
believe that dragons are physical and
they were physical as also galactic
beings and it's still depicted in
scripture. It is part of Chinese
astrology. there's more and more, you
know, knowledge about this. But what's
interesting is that myth and legend have
used the dragons and the unicorns as
it's a fantasy. So if you believe in it,
it's like it's even more ridiculous than
believe in galactics. I find for some
people, you know, not for us though, not
here. But the level of power,
self-holding, sovereignty and liberation
that comes within oursel as we connect
with dragon really activates us in our
mission too. So I think a lot of people
are ready to to take the next level to
their mission. I mean like you know that
if you don't show up here for your
mission Debbie like people will lose so
much like you showing up creating a
space like this bringing people in but
in the background you have to handle all
of the things that people don't see you
keep moving you keep put like moving
with face with bravery you're activating
this dragon energy that says there's
nothing that can stop me not because I'm
terrifying but just because that's just
the way I'm activated. This is my
mission. And when we see the impact that
you have because you keep showing up,
it's like every every human has
something to share. It's about time we
actually do it and join Frances like in
case we haven't notice it's happening
right now. We are needed and dragons
they come to say like shake up awake but
activate yourself too.
I love that so so much. that was like
worth putting on replay and listening to
again. Oh my goodness. Thank you so much
for that perspective. I really loved it
and I agree a thousand% about the energy
right now. That makes sense why they're
showing up. Never put that together. I'm
going to take a very short break right
here and when we come back, Sundrine is
going to be channeling. I am so ready
for that. And folks, if you like this
conversation, if you want to learn more
about your galactic lineage, where
you've come from cosmically, what
species, or even, as we were saying
earlier, the dominant species you are
and need to be in this lifetime, I've
got a free gift for you. It's at
debashinger.com/star
seed. It's got a report. It's got a
video, and you can deep dive and have a
great time. dbi
d a c i n g- r.comst
star seed. Next I am speaking in two
places. I'm speaking coming up August
22nd at the awakened life expo in Costa
Mesa, California. If you're around,
come. It's going to be amazing. Bashar's
going to be there. William Henry's going
to be there. JJ Brighton, lots of
amazing people. This is
awakenlifeexpo.com.
And by the way, all the links are in the
show notes. Next, I am speaking at the
end of this month into September in
Glastonbury, England at the ascension
glassberry.com
event. Again, some amazing folks are
sharing the stage with me. And I want to
say that I just got this huge download
with what Centrine is sharing because I
suddenly got this information that what
I needed to do in my presentations is
teach the shamanic galactic energy of
three particular animals. And what is so
interesting is the first animal is the
feathered serpent which is more
mythological and it's a lot known as
quitzakato or kukulan in the Mayan
society. But listening to Sandrine, I
got this huge download. Are you serious?
Feathered serpent is the freaking
dragon. Oh my god, that's what I'm
teaching about the first animal. Now,
this makes so much sense. So, come join
me for this big download and what I'm
sharing and the activations.
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need to know before you go into the
channeling state?
Uh,
>> no. Like enjoy. I hope that you enjoy
it. Thank you, Debbie.
>> Beautiful.
We are ready beautiful ones. We are so
happy and excited to cocreate with you
once more dear.
Me too. Wow. Okay. So, please bless my
mind with the plethora the buffet of
questions that I have. I want to start
with yeah I'm going to start with some
history that I am very curious about and
I have a lot of knowledge about but I
don't know how much is true not true so
I'm going to be really specific there
was a rear Admiral Richard Bird who part
of his naval activity back in the 1940s
United States was asked to do some
flybys over the poles North South Pole
and also Antarctica. And it is said, it
is said that he in one of his flights,
very cold region that we're talking
about, that all of a sudden he entered
into what looked like a land completely
different. There were mammothike animals
down below. It was suddenly green and
lush. He landed his plane and he and his
oh there were uh spacecraft that met the
plane and asked them to land it in this
beautiful lush place. They landed and
supposedly were met by tall white
extraterrestrial beings. They were taken
into a crystalline city, put on a
conveyor belt. Best words I can use that
didn't have wheels, especially for the
1940s.
Anyway, they went into this city. I
don't know what was said. I'd love to
know what was said, what actually
happened. I do know know they were
warned because it was the time of the
atomic bomb, Hiro, Hiroshi, Hiroshima,
Nagasaki, the Cold War, and they were
being warned not to use these
instruments of destruction. But I feel
in my heart much more was said. And give
me one more minute to gush a little
more. And subsequently after that it is
said that the United States Army 1946 to
47 put together this huge contingency
4,700 personnel, planes, sea tenders,
ships, I mean an enormous amount of
machinery and people and shipped them
out to Antarctica and they were supposed
to be there for 8 months to do this
research. But things happened. And so
I'll end it there. I would like, you can
tell I'm excited. I would love to know
from you the truth. What happened to
Admiral Bird? What was that meeting
about? Why did the United States Army
and military bring and the Navy bring
all of this into that region? What were
they really hoping to find? And what
literally happened that made them
extract the personnel and the machinery
before the 6 to 8 months of that
expedition was supposed to end. They
pulled it out early. Thank you.
>> We love this dear one. It is not very
often that we receive such precise
question.
What happened is that the north and the
south pool when you think about it it is
really well protected. Who wants to go
on holiday and build a resort in the
ice? Not very many people. So it is
created if you think about okay
this is a portal to alternate and
parallel realities where you can enter
specific geoloc. But here is the thing
is that there must be the space the
place geographically as well as certain
coordinates of time and it acts as a key
as a lock. So a convergent point of time
and space dimension and when this
happens there can be a merging with a
parallel reality. So this is what
happened but it was pre-ordained. So the
soul of this person who traveled over
there guided him. He did not know. He
thought it was for all of the other
reasons. But the soul knew very well
that was appointed because it his other
self a parallel self living in that
reality as a galactic being present
there need. This is when you are
existing in a parallel reality and you
work with space and time congre points
your frequency it's like he can go there
he and the people with but if someone
else had been there the frequency would
not have been a match because it is the
beings open that together there must be
resonance in term of frequency. So he
literally
merge. Imagine it's like if you have a
waterfall and you walk through the
waterfall. First you are outside and
there is maybe trees, right? The trees
and the river. Then you walk through a
waterfall and you find yourself inside a
cave and it looks very different. The
energy is very different. It's a bit
like that. There is a form of um screen.
we would say a form of ve and people
just walk through it and find themselves
continuing a path in a parallel plane.
So the parallel plane that was accessed
was a parallel plane which was um a
parallel reality where they the
frequencies much higher. So if you think
of the current timeline on earth now
this current humanity of yours has been
experiencing
a lot of intensity. So when there is a
war, when there is the collapse of a
civilization, often the domino falls
into people wake up, they choose love as
a guiding force and they kind of make it
in a way or the opposite domino falls
the other way and this domino effect
creates all sorts of re ripple effect of
a descent of a civilization. So you here
currently your current human have
incarnated in a civilization that has
been descending. When that portal open
he accessed a civilization that had been
ascending for a very long time where the
humans the galactics ga managed to
choose love and to promote life and to
solve their differences moving forward.
And so there are many convergent point
like this. Humanity is in one. Now the
way that the next few years are going to
unfold. The way that people wake up,
march down the street to remove the
muppets supposedly leading.
Once this happens then reality will
become again higher frequency. The
ascension will happen the evolution. So
now what humans don't understand is that
the most pivotal moment is happening
because it is not just about continuing
certain timelines or fragment. No from
the descent the spiral has asked to
shift the other way into ascension. No
longer descion because there is also
timeline of descension. So what happened
there is that this person had access
there. Why? Because they are frequent
encounters with galactics, with portals,
you know, portals, other civilization
because it helps to bring information in
your current reality that is going to
benefit a certain group of people in
terms of oh my goodness, we are not
alone. We can tap into this. So much
more is happening. It changes the lives
of people receiving this. Just think
about this live here and the way it's
going to eode because it is authorized
because it is predestined because it is
part of the way that the forces have
joined now to really help humanity
choose to pivot into an ascending spiral
rather than descending spiral. When the
second event happened,
that was the intention of the people
going there was not an intention to go
study, learn and grow to help humanity
evolve and ascend. The intention created
by that was to again use resources. Take
from the land, take from the galactic,
take from human, take, take, take take
whatever you can take in terms of
information to make human profit of
egoistical fragmented people bigger. So
it's presented often around scientific
breakthrough, this breakthrough, that
breakthrough. You know very well
beautiful one listening to this that it
is often this the smoke screen for greed
and profits that is part of the
descending spiral. So when they went
there into the great ice what truly
happened is that they did they were not
met by the ascending civilization.
what they activated
what was called where the depths of the
descending fences. But they did not
really understand that
in those places in those pont you can
open the door to a beautiful golden room
filled with nice food and amazing beings
of delight or you can open the room
where you have at the other side of the
fence that we say is extremely needed
and beneficial in many levels. A lot of
education is still needed. We would call
the dark side of the force. But they got
very frightened because as they went
there they saw the depths of suffering.
They know the depths of the they saw
very many demonic entities many weird
things happened to them. The portal
open. So hear about all the ghost
stories all the terrifying stories. It
happened like that and it created a
level of um a psychological breakdown in
too much percentage of the the
researchers that were there. Too many of
them were having breakdown,
psychological breakdown, nervous system
breakdown and some had to be locked away
eventually because they just could not
cope with what they had faced. What
nobody understood is that what they were
shown was the path humanity was taking
if they were continuing as they were
already doing. They did not see the
wisdom in it. They were just scared and
I was like, "Oh my god, it's scary.
Humans interpreted it as we need to be
more armed. We need more nuclear
weapons. We need to protect ourselves
more from these dangerous things out
there." There are no dangerous things
out there that want to attack your
humans. You choose to descend and meet
them where they are or to ascend and
meet other beings where they are. It's
just law, a law of resonance. And so
that expedition, that second expedition
was a sh it was very challenging because
they did not know how to handle the
information. So they shut it off very
quickly. That is our experience and
interpretation of this phenomenon.
>> Yes. Yes. Yes. Wow. Thank you. That
makes so much sense. And I'm also tying
together when Admiral Bird is asked to
land by this spacecraft and these
beautiful beings who come to meet him.
And uh we may never know what that full
conversation was, but clearly he came
back with a warning. he was told to
share with the government regarding at
that time atomic weapons. And you are so
right. So here they're getting a
warning. You would think they would heed
the warning, but instead it's let's pull
all the ships, all the planes, all the
personnel and go there. It's not let's
meet them and see what we can exchange
and how we could grow. It's like how can
we overcome? How can we use their
technology to dominate? They never got
the message. And clearly we haven't
gotten the message because here we are
now involved with nuclear materials. And
so why the poles? I know a lot about the
north and south poles. I know that a
regular magnetic compass just doesn't
work there. I know that north is south
and south is north. And I know that you
can s get very disoriented about uh
where the sky is and where the earth is
and and you can be in a snow white out
and so many things that are very
disoriented sound and so forth.
Is this a common place, maybe the most
common place on earth where there are
these interdimensional portals that you
spoke of for beings to come in and out?
And if so why there
>> you can think about the speed and
clarity of access to other pans in terms
of some are very clear very easy to
access you feel them you know
something's going on and others they
would go unnoticed to the general
population but to the ones where we can
access this.
North and South Pole are extremely high
vibrational precise portals as a visual.
And this is just a visual so people can
perceive. It's like if you were to put
Earth on top of each other, multiply it.
So there's one at the bottom, one above,
one above, one above. And it's kind of
like when you go to the top, you can
open a a door and kind of climb to the
bottom of the next things like that.
It's a little bit like the level of
precision of being able to access an
entire reality construct is very clear
and accessible in the north and the
thoughts. This is also why earth creates
the ice in itself because the ice
protects but the ice has been coded by
the neir giants that is an ancient race
that lives in underground caves over
there and they code so they receive the
information from many different portals
and dimensions about the history the
true history of humanity and they code
it in the ice. So interestingly is that
with the melting of the ice, we we now
take it as a neutral phenomenon. We're
not going going to go into a global
warming description as a neutral
phenomenon. The I the melting of the ice
releases these datas that were trapped
into the ice to be shared through the
bodies of water across all the earth.
People are going to drink ice codes and
activated themselves. It's also going to
help people to perceive more the
crystalline frequencies present. So
there is a redistribution of
informationational systems that is
activated because the norm
and the south is redistributed through
the rain and the mountains and the water
system of earth. So these are placed
there. It is not it is not so much that
we place them there. It is a bit like
the human body if you want the crown
chakra, the bottom chakra, the belly
button or the tongs you know or the
mouth they have they just there and then
there is a specific energy about it that
you can learn to harness. So the ice is
there both as a way of protection but
also as a way to already entrain a
human. So now human can receive this um
a little essence drop of essence all
around the world. But when humans go
there, the entire physical, emotional,
mental, spiritual system, the
crystalline DNA reacts to the frequency
there. So the people who have clearly
chosen love as a guiding force, who have
an intention inside of their heart to
become a better person. Basically, they
don't need to feel themselves spiritual
or ascend. When they have inside of
themselves, I want to give love, receive
love, and help other people. when they
go there they will be activated and
amplified in those frequencies
but when the people with the opposite
values of like I don't care I just want
greed let's take let's drill into the
eyes to suck more of Gaia's resources
these ones get very quickly more
fragmented because their body connects
very fast with what's present so they
would go all a lot of mental issues and
also fragmentation of certain systems
in the physical body but it is just a
resonance. What are you in resonance
with? There are other portals on earth
so many but these ones would be more
specifically to a civilization to a
certain galactic congregation and so on
such as the Bida triangle esedra in
Ibida and so many more beloved ones as
you very well know. Mhm. Oh my I really
appreciate you bringing up that they
know our frequency
because my understanding is with
advanced civilizations amongst their
many many gifts.
This is one of them to know really who
we are. So, for instance,
the ant beings who I'm very well-versed
in and would love to meet someday, but
these are bipedalled ant beings. They're
not literal ants, but they're known to
be so because they look very much like
them because they do have hive mind, but
they're also quite individual, very,
very peaceful. And it is said that
nobody can go through the portal, the
athereic if you will, veil to go into
their caverns with them in inner earth
because they know the frequency of love
in somebody's heart. They also know if
they don't hold that frequency. So with
that said,
can you talk some about the other
beings? I understand in sacred places
they are most apt to want to live that
they're drawn to the frequency these
beings of sacred places and perhaps
other places around the earth. What are
the beings? There are the very
benevolent ant beings I'm familiar with.
I also am aware of reptilian beings and
I don't know if those are what was
called in mythology quote unquote in
ancient history as the nagas the uh the
serpent humanoids. Can you talk some
about beings that do occupy inner earth
as you described earth above earth above
earth above earth and then opening the
door and climbing up or being in
euretheric space. Who who are they? Can
you describe some of them?
>> Deb, we want to thank you for this
question because it is opening a codeex
that this human had felt into but not
dived into and we can share this with
you now. The inner earth is like the
human heart. It is the portal to all the
dimensions of the soul. So when you go
into the inner earth what's interesting
is that you are inside the heart of taya
consciousness
and when you reemerge you will be on a
specific frequency gaia that can be very
different from another one. So it's the
heart. If you travel through the heart
portal as we described before this is
where central codex come from she did
not know this she channel when you go
through the heart you can start to
conceive in yourself in a past life in
another human body or in another alien
body. So when you go into um certain
specific portals when you are called
more and more to Gaia to the inner earth
listen a lot of the time souls want to
remember who they are and where they
come from and it is very good to learn
about star seen origin and galactic
origins. Of course we love this and also
consider going into the inner earth
realms with consciousness. So first
remember contact movements travels
happens through consciousness
telepathically
when you telepathically travel into
inner earth through quantum journeys
shamanic journeys and you meet ant
people or inner earth beings they would
be they are giants in inner earth. So
for example these giants um human would
not like them very much to start with
because they would not they would not
win a beauty contest these ones they do
not look appealing to human eyes if they
don't see the night their entire mission
is absolutely absolute devotion to
Taragaya and so they live in the
underground for thousands of years and
they live in caves that are wet and dark
and so on, but it is their homes. They
usually, we would say, genderless, but
their function is to move around
different caves, different cracks,
different places, which is above a core.
So the core is like the heart, an entire
dimensional heart in itself where all of
Taraga is present. The highest
consciousness of paragaya is present.
But to access that we must go through
many layers. And the giants they they
look after these layers. They protect
the inner earth. But they also are going
to make earth shake in a certain way.
They are the ones that going to go and
they're going to say it is shaking over
there, volcanoes over there, things like
that. Because the crust of Gaia needs to
move. paragaya needs an inhale or an
exhale. There is too much pressure over
there. So, for example, these are beings
that are they're not really interacting
with humans, they can there are there
are many occurrences when they were
called to to come because of needed. So
for example, these are some that we've
been working where a lot with there are
also lots of dragons you know dragons
very ancient civilizations when you go
into Tagaya you can access Leoria as
Leoria that never fell the timelines of
Earth from Leoria when humans and
galactics were already in fifth
dimension but as they were experiencing
just before the fall they realized We
don't want to go there. Let's ascend,
descend. They kind of made it if you
want. And there also Avalanian
civilizations, Shambala civilizations,
Mayan civilizations, the civilizations
that have bizarrely disappeared,
>> right?
>> These can be accessed through inner
earth and there are many beings that
keep that. And as you say, the frequency
is the key. It cannot be faked. They are
very versed. So the end people will see
the specific frequency signature of the
person coming and they will decide yes
or no to the entry kashimote. But
generally speaking what we want to share
is that there is a general architecture
that um is accessed to provoke amnesia
in humans. So if you were to go for
example to a certain point but you're
not ready. You are underprepared but
they don't want you to have a bad
experience. You're simply going to
forget. You're going to have some form
of a time loss or weird sensations or a
deja vu and you merge. And it can be go
both ways. You forget or you remember.
>> Wow. Okay. Poof.
This is so good.
I'm piecing together something we were
talking about earlier because I'm aware
that the destructiveness
of what we're doing here, playing with
nuclear materials, nuclear bombs. This
is the only time the Galactics will ever
interfere because otherwise we have free
will. But if someone's got their finger
on a button, they will come and they
will disarm that bomb. And I understand
that part I mean they care for us
humanity. At the same time a nuclear
fallout here and destruction would also
create unbelievable chaos out into the
galaxies. So we're not the only ones
impacted and we must be responsible for
that. They never asked for that
destruction. And listening to you, I'm
also wondering if our disrespect right
now for the earth, for using and abusing
her for resources, for using and abusing
our oceans, our skies,
and more uh our animals, all the things.
Does what we do impact upper terra the
upper crust that we are living on or
does it also impact these beings who are
living within earth all the way down to
the heart of mother earth
>> impacting all of it because nothing is
separated. You are part of a unified
field. So the
everything that happens to Gaia creates
a ripple effect that affects the the
whole the all of the gaas all of the
realms present here but also us your
brother and sisters from the stars we
are on gas we say each and every single
one of you the animals and the plants
you are just one atom in Gaia Tara's
greater body then Gaia is just one atom
or the Gaia and all the ga all of the
actors ly and all of that are just one
atom in God's greater body. So when one
is in pain and suffers the rest of
course feels it and you can try to
ignore your bad knee for as long as as
you want to ignore it but the bad knee
is just going to grow more and more
inflamed and in pain until you pay
attention to it. This is why we are here
too. It's because we want to show you
the way to stop choosing pain and
suffering to stop the addiction to
dissension that many of you
unconsciously keep choosing as you keep
desacralizing the sacredness of your own
heart. How beautiful and pure you are
and the sacredness of your mother. Every
time you desacriize Gia, every time you
turn your back against it, you do that
to yourself and to your families of
delight. So we would love to offer you
the the possibility to always choose
differently. Choose yourself. Choose to
promote life. Choose to save the bird or
dear even if you think it doesn't have a
chance. The way that you're going to
feel as you promote life when you march
for the water. when you say no to the
new AI system because you mentioned the
nuclear bomb, we also mentioned the
extreme distortion happening around the
data centers and a consuming of energies
as you know and the fuel and everything.
So every time you do an action that goes
into promoting life, celebrate yourself
and feel how much this fed you today and
how much you you actually you help
humanity's ascension through all your
micro actions, your thoughts and the
love that you provide for life and also
for yourself of course beloved ones.
>> Yes, very important points that you
bring up. Thank you for the gentility
with which you delivered that. And if
folks don't know who we all are enjoying
AI and all the many things it does and
at the same time where is that coming
from and as they just explained there
are data centers
>> and there are facilities buying up
enormous amounts of land to create data
centers which use enormous amounts of
water resources and energy resources.
And first of all, just know that as a
taxpayer, you're paying for it. And also
know it is also using and abusing our
resources. So, we still haven't gotten
to free energy and free ways to do this
that don't hurt this beautiful planet,
this goddess who houses us, who feeds
us. Like, we literally live on her and
we're trying to destroy her. So, I'm big
on this. And I want to uh bring up
something you mentioned earlier about
who also lives in inner earth and very
funny about the giants not winning a
beauty contest. Uh so these amazing
ancient dragons uh and we were talking
earlier with centrine about this
initiation into the dragon sovereignty
and power. What does it mean for us
right now to now start to move as the
dragon? What do we need to release or
reclaim or remember? And how can we
start to move as that?
Feel the anger and the rage and the
disgust present within your belly and
your heart about how crazy about
nonsensical your world has become and
how it has been tolerated. Feel the
fire. But do not destroy yourself nor
take a gun or attack other people. No,
no. Use it to march down the streets.
Where are your pacifist protest? Where
are you rising? How are you choosing to
speak up realizing that your world
matter? Every single human on the planet
has the power to change the world
individually. So imagine collectively.
So drop the nonsense of thinking you are
not ready. You're an impostor. You're
insignificant. You are weak. You are
powerful. You are needed. You have gone
and placed in your current situation in
your current location exactly as the
magnificent being that has non-suffering
and that has decided otherwise. You have
risen already. You are still standing
up. You are not broken down. You are not
weaklings lost in the wheels of karma.
You are powerful multi-dimensional
galactic dragons, beings of the light.
And you are needed. So every day go for
it. Do something. Help others. Beloved
ones, the world needs you. You need you.
Your children, the children of tomorrow,
the cats, the dogs, all of us, we need
you. We are your brothers and sisters.
We love you. You are safe. You
protected. And the time has come. It is
a party. Visualize yourself dancing and
celebrating and loving and having fun in
a free world. Where there is free
energy. When true democracy exists, when
true brotherhood and sisterhood resides,
when differences are celebrated and life
is promoted, you are born for that. So
claim that reality now. Cultivate hope.
Move with faith as the universe has your
back. You believe in God. How do you
move? Move with faith. Applying this
believe this principle, this law that
you align with and move with bravery.
You are powerful and courageous with
beyond measure. This is not your first
rodeo. This is not your first rodeo on
life, on earth, in anywhere. You were
trained for this. You trained for this
for eons. Remember, reactivate. But do
not use any excuses not to go for it. We
say you are ready. We are one. We are
rising. It is happening and we are very
excited. Thank you for choosing this
place. Thank you for being here. You are
seen. You are supported and you are love
always. May you move as such because we
do love you dearly beloved ones.
>> Really beautiful. Um I just want to end
with this question about what's
awakening in us regarding our DNA. So
now we have all this magnificence you
just shared about the energy of the
dragon embodying that and that to me is
animal spirit medicine something I
teach. So I'm fully on board and I know
the power of that. Here we are talking
about that our crystallion
blueprints are awakening. Our galactic
blueprints are awakening. How is that
happening? How can we consciously invite
that? And does that affect our DNA? Like
are we going to suddenly get a 13th
strand of DNA or more?
>> Yes. It is like think about the strands
there. Everything is there just
sleeping. It's just been taking a long
nap. every time that you go to bed and
to ask to activate more of you.
Generally speaking, say yes, I accept
and I receive more of me. Yes, I accept.
I receive more of my mission. I'm ready
for it. Go for it. Give permission to
your soul, to your medical team. We
would say spirit guides that are really
specialized in this art. Say, "Go for
it. I'm ready for it." And you will
notice that more and more things are
different. So then ch change your
habits, your routines, your belief
system, your movement, the way you
present yourself, change your identity
as you activate more this crystalline
essence. Otherwise, it is very much like
having a dozen of apps in your phone and
never using them. Educate yourself on
this subject and also fear into the
truth that it is actually happening.
Your crystalline divine genome wraps
around the carbon based DNA and
reinforms the carbon based DNA slowly
until there is a pivotal moment domino
effect when the crystal and divine
genome becomes the main operating system
of your current incarnation. Then you
are six strands DNA activated and then
from there you're going to start living
from the unified field which is your own
field of unconditional love for self.
And that starts branching out to the
world, your mission and other people. So
you feel it. Many of you as they feel
it, they receive this, they will feel
it. They will know that it is happening
to them. So keep believing it. Keep
choosing love. Keep activating yourself
and moving every day thinking I am the
new identity. I'm a new version of me
today. How am I going to show up and
share love and activate love and rise in
myself being this new activated self?
Yes.
Thank you for being with us. Um I wish
this was a 17point
series so we can keep going. Uh there's
so much more that comes up for me and I
want to acknowledge the enormity that
you just gifted us with. Thank you so
much.
>> Thank you beloved one. It's been a great
pleasure as always to cocreate with you.
May you walk in peace. We are You are
very loved. We do love you very much.
Welcome back, love. That was
super beyond. And as you're slowly
reintegrating to this here and now, what
is the greatest obstacle, Crine, that
prevents us as a collective from
entering the most harmonious timeline
available to us?
>> I think we doubt ourselves.
We choose to see our brokenness on
inadequacy
and we choose to live from that. And I
think if we start asking ourel is this
actually serving me we rest no it's not
how else can I choose I can choose to be
curious
that's how I would like to invite people
to move in life because I do not
necessarily see my cine as someone
extraordinary as someone because I see
all the room for growth all of the areas
of progress all the things that my sin
is still learning to to handle as a
human
But I know that
this is not being imperfect nor broken
nor too too late or whatever. This is
just a humanity. And so I move by being
curious. I'm really curious how my human
synd
this this new offer about, you know,
shining at an event. I'm really curious
to see how I can enter this
conversation, this dynamic, this
experience
from faith and trust and bravery rather
than thinking, "Oh my god, I'm not sure
if I'm ready for it. I'm not sure if I'm
the right person for it." Because we
don't move from our fragmentation
because then we perpetuate that. We
leave that to the side. We do the
healing. We do the journeys. But let's
move more from the truth of who we are
and let's be curious about it. I don't
know what it's like to be an embodied
multi-dimensional fantastic leader who
leads a multi-million dollar spiritual
ministry, travels the world and so on. I
don't know what it's like. I feel I'm
called to that if it's God's will, but I
am curious to see how I can show up and
choose differently and work on myself to
be that because that is needed for the
world. So me um seeing myself as like
that or not is irrelevant. The mission
needs me. The people needs me. God wants
me. Guy wants me. So I surrender and I
move and I go for it. I don't question
it.
>> Yes. Yes. To all of that. And I want to
say in my experience of stepping up, of
being courageous, of moving into, of
recognizing there's a flow, whether I'm
reticent or not, that flow is there for
me. And it doesn't stop. That's what's
amazing because I have moved into the
next iteration of me and the next
expression of me and it feels like oh
I'm here and then another thing
eventually will present not often one
right after another. I think the
universe is very kind in how it brings
the energy in. But we are constantly
being asked much like a river. River
doesn't get stagnant and putrify in a
puddle, right? It keeps moving.
>> We need to move. I love this deb. Oh my
god, we could talk for hours. I love
this. Absolutely. Yes. Let's move. The
time is there. Yeah.
>> Exactly. And as people are listening, as
they're fascinated by what you're doing
and the galactic
wisdom and humor that comes through you,
the profoundity and they're saying,
"Okay, um, how can I activate these
galactic aspects? How can I reactivate
them? And what will change within me
when I do that?"
>> I think there are many ways. So I think
like you offer a lot, I offer a lot. So
there are mentors, activated channelers
and spiritual leaders are there that can
help you through certain modalities like
journeys or light body activation. So
all of that is there. There are lots of
incredible techniques to do that. But
also what I would love to invite people
into doing is to really um place that at
the forefront of your life. Getting to
know yourself. You're getting to know
yourself as a human being through
astrology, through your birth chart,
through your I don't know your neurode
divergence and so on. Get to know
yourself through your galactic. So learn
about it like do these steps that she
mentioned because you're going to learn
yourself. You're going to recognize
yourself. You know like some people they
they see people through their astrology
or human design. When I talk to people I
like oh that one is very li that one is
very pregnant that one is very padian.
It's just other ways of experiencing
ourselves and it's fun. So keep it keep
it light, keep it enjoyable, keep it
fun. But I don't think that it is
something cute that is a hobby place to
the side. I think it is a quest to
activate ourselves. So to me these
things people still put them as like oh
yeah like why would I do that? It
changes everything. You are literally
activated a powerhouse inside of you. I
mean like if as an acturian you can
telepathically connect with millions of
species at once because that's your
training. If as an Acturan you can you
know you can go on diplomatic mission
because that specific frequency of the
Acturan is very neutral. So the acturian
like that when we are coded like that we
extraordinary diplomat when we get to
know them we can see oh my god I relate
to that and it gets activated within I
can see myself as a Syrian as a dragon
as an actor as a ancient civilization
and I see that oh this is who what I'm
doing there this is who I am relevant
for this life I can see oh my god and
there's always so many layers so it's
exciting it's exciting
>> oh it's so cool yes my loves So tell us
how can people find you? What do you
offer? How can we work with you?
>> Yes. So um I I'm quite active on
Instagram. I love Instagram just to
share a lot of different things. I also
have a private Facebook group where I go
and I post all sorts of videos as well
as a lot of database. I've created a
huge codeex you know videos,
transmission courses, programs and so
on. And now I decided to open up the
archive and share a lot more for free
because it's really highly valuable. So
I share that on Facebook as well. And I
continuously run different programs
around galactics, dragons, quantum
leaping. I'm going to do more training
around demon slaying, the dark side of
the force, the art of handling like a
lot of like density frequency because
I'm highly also trained in that love
ancient civilization. So I mean like um
you know as you know when we are
activated in this this is like so many
things we bring into the field. So it
depends of a bit what's going on in the
field and I orient my offers uh with
that
>> beautiful's
website is golden agespiritual
ministry.org or it will be in the show
notes. And finally, Sendrine, this is
dare to dream. What do you next dare to
dream? Future dreams and goals.
>> All right. I dare to dream that in this
lifetime before my human transitions, I
will know that we made it.
>> I will know that humanity has pivoted
into a upward spiral of ascension
because I was born for this. So, I am
not going anywhere until I see this
happen.
>> Amen. Amen. A woman, thank you for
coming on the show today. You know, I
adore you.
>> Thank you, Debbie. Likewise. Thank you
for the extraordinary opportunity. Thank
you everyone for watching. It's
wonderful to to be here with you all.
>> And I wrap up today's show with this
thought. The dragons are not returning
to rescue humanity. They're returning to
awaken the sovereign fire within us so
that we can remember we are never
powerless. We are never separate and we
are never merely human.
Until next time, keep your hearts open.
Stay curious. Trust what your soul
already knows. And as always, dear to
dream. Next week on the show, I'm
featuring a favorite of mine, Tyler
Ellison. He channels the Cissani. I
believe this will be his fourth time on
the program. Acupuncturist,
spiritual teacher, and also another
profound channel. You will not want to
miss it. Thank you all so much whether
you're live or in replay for joining us
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