🚨 Cathy O'Brien: Three Generations of Mind Control with @CatherineEdwards007

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All right, you guys, let's get into the show. >> [music] [music] >> Let me show you [music] the sky. Love you. So [music] close to heaven. [bell] Right. A big welcome back to the Live, Love, Learn podcast today, and we are really honored to be joined again by the amazing Kathy O'Brien and I am co-hosting this show with Bryce from Esoteric Atlanta. Now, recent developments are once again raising questions about MK Ultra, government control programs, and the psychology of manipulation. But this isn't just a conversation about the past. It's also about understanding the patterns of control that still influence human behavior each and every one of us today and most importantly how we can all reclaim our minds. I think most people know Kathy O'Brien very very well and her amazing work. But for new listeners here, Kathy O'Brien has been speaking out for over 35 years on her experience in MK Ultra mind control and most importantly on her healing from it. And knowledge is our defense against mind control. And Kathy's experience empowers her insights into the far-reaching effects of mind control on society today and what we can all do to reclaim, protect, and expand our free fort. And you're going to get all Cathy's links below, but Kathy is an amazing author and has got books to not only explain to people, to new people about what's going on, what we're talking about, but most importantly about healing tools. So Kathy, we're so delighted to have you here today. How are you doing? >> Thank you so much. I I really appreciate this. I'm I'm very excited for the uh upcoming event in UK, the GIC conference September 10th through 12th and um getting to speak there with so many phenomenal speakers and um um actually come to UK. I'm I'm excited. So, um I'm looking forward to that event to be in there and bringing more information to light because the information on MK Ultra that started to come out with the MK U Altra hearings that happened on June 30th are um reverberating around the world because it is a global problem and people are realizing that now and they're wanting um solutions. You know, the awareness has risen to the point where I feel like my voice is finally being heard and the questions asked are about what can we do to uh reclaim our free thought the way you did and um retain it and you know and all and all that. So awareness has risen to this amazing point and I think the the disclosures that we're going to be sharing um at at GIC is going to be uh empowering and it's we're at a time now where information doesn't overwhelm people anymore. Empowers them and I'm so excited to get to speak out and um and be on the that that end of things finally after 35 years. >> I know it must be it must I I I said that to my my boyfriend this morning. I must Kathy just supposed to be like so elated right now. You and David Ike and all these people who [laughter] who've been trying to been trying to warn us for a while. Well, speaking of the MK Ultra hearings, Kathy, I want to start with a big one that I saw a clip of and it it it actually goes into a lot of my research into like the Son of Sam case and all these old cases. We're talking about Charles Manson. And of course, people who read the book Helter Skelter years ago know that it has been speculated for a very long time before MK Ultra was even really known to the world that he was a government asset that Charles Manson was MK Ultra. And I wanted to talk to you a little bit about that, Kathy, because what's interesting about Charles Manson, and this kind of goes into our own life, is that he didn't kill anyone. He was programmed and then he was able to like hypnotize and program other people to do the kill. So, how does that how does that work first of all? And how can we be aware of that in a in a more metaphoric way in our own lives for what's happening to us? Um, I think in the the MK Ultra here is what excited me so much is they brought out Jolly West who is the um UCLA psychiatrist. It's MK Ultra Psychiatrist that went in on the Manson case and and as they were talking about Jolly West, it tied in with with so many others. You know, in from the Kennedy assassination in the Oklahoma City, you know, anything that has been nationally traumatizing, there's Jolly West. And that should be quite an answer into Charles Manson that it was intended to be a national trauma and he was um programmed for that and conditioned to it. And I think one thing that's been missed by people that MK Ultra is traumabased mind control, but it's also harmonically driven. There's technological aspects that are much more prevalent today. And all the way back then, Charles Manson was saying, "It's in the music, man. It's in the music." And he was telling people about the subaudible frequencies and the the audible frequencies that are used in music to manipulate the human mind. And as a musician himself, that was something that he had been um exposed to and was a part of the triggering mechanism for him and for uh many others. And he tried to tell people, but no one had ears to hear what he was saying when he w when he said, "It's in the music, man. It's in the music." And that's just all part of MK Ultra. >> Yeah. That's why so he was almost like given this information but then still went out and kind of delivered it anyway to cause the the upheaval of um and of course I'm assuming that also connects again to Son of Sam in New York. Um they've always connected those two together with that causing that that chaos within the world. So yes um so do you think that a lot of the MK culture we experience is coming from subliminal stuff like that as well? >> It's coming subliminally. It's coming through repetitive media narrative and it's also coming through MK Ultra sub project Monarch which has been unleashed on the global population. It's a 100redyear plan because it was found in Hitler Himmler research that after three generations any knowledge base abuse base or belief system becomes autogenic in the brain. So by manipulating our knowledge base for three generations, we're passing down misinformation and we are forgetting our birthright information on being able to heal from trauma to have our natural defense against mind control. All of that has been deliberately mentally altered, which is all the more reason why it's important to understand Jolly West. um his cohort Margaret Sanger uh very much a part of influencing the mental health community so that they didn't deal with the these um these issues na natural to our brain or to give us a defense against mind control or healing from trauma and also Dr. Euan Cameron MK Ultra doctor, founder of the APA's, the American Psychiatric Association, Psychological Association. Um, very much a part of MK Ultra and convicted of it, you know. So, I mean, we MK Ultra has been weaving through society for generations now very deliberately. Um, not only through the education system, through music, through media, through um, >> religion, >> through religion. Absolutely. So many different aspects of our lives have been infiltrated by MK Ultra. It's not new. What's new is we're finally seeing it. And it's important for us to understand that this has been a 100red-year plan that began when with project paperclip when we imported the Nazi and fascia scientists into the US. With them came the formula for mind control. The National Security Act went into place to keep it secret. CIA went into place to carry it out on a global scale and that has what's been happening for generations. So um the more we know the more we see how agenda 2030 is the culmination of the 100red-year plan. They think by that time over three generations of us will be um conditioned into total compliance and that we will believe anything we're told that will be so stupid we can align with artificial intelligence which is really dumb. You know they have to dumb us down for artificial intelligence. Think about that one. You know I mean it's just it's it the thing is we've got >> we've got such mental capacity. We've got the victory within us. We've wisdom outthinks their criminal minds every time. Wisdom outthinks artificial intelligence. And that's our innate ability. But we got to remember that we have all the power. They only have as much power as we give them or let them steal. And we also need to remember that soul is stronger than genetics. >> And we can break that genetic tie. It's up to us to break that. um in light of awareness that really is truth that makes us free is information on MK Ultra mind control. >> Oh my sorry. Yeah. Um there's so much we want to cover there. >> No my my brain's just poofed right now >> then in the MK Ultra. I just want to cover because a question I get obviously I'm over here in the UK and I can't wait to see you in August at Danny Henderson's event. Um but um we often think when we think about me MK Ultra everyone just thinks about the CIA and the USA but of course we know with agenda 2030 and we know with all of these plans they have a long-standing global clan. So what can you tell people that are listening that are outside the USA that sort of still think this is an American problem and still think that in their country these sort of things aren't going on. They need to look into Tavistock and and so many other aspects. You know, I mean, we've we've all been infiltrated. This is a global plan. The United States was the um I think probably the strongest hold against it, the most sovereign nation, the most um freethinking in so many ways. So they centered there to influence the um not only the American population but to take over the United States government and that is exactly what happened especially with the Kennedy assassination that was a pivot point when globalists took over. So it's not about the US. This is about a global agenda and uh follow the money. You go right to the globalists at the top. The ones that meet in secret because knowledge is our defense against mind control. They don't want us to have that knowledge. So everything's secret with them. They have their secret meetings, their secret islands like Epstein Island, their all their secrets under national security. You know, they just they're so fearful of truth because they know that truth empowers humanity to remember who they are and why they're here and gather their strength of spirit and the infinite power of love to say no more and to effectively protect our children going forward. So, um I encourage everyone follow the money. They'll see it's a global agenda. Um who's meeting in secret? who is plotting our the future of humanity and why should they be you know I mean what why why aren't we um having responsibility over our own minds and lives you know because we have been conditioned for generations to look outside ourselves to authority to big government big pharma big tech big cult religion to tell us how to live our lives and right at the very top of that is um the the global elite who understand the three generations uh autogenic which is why the bloodlines are in place why they've got those um bloodlines of power because they are acutely aware of the genetic effects of information and they've got the information that that we have forgotten we just it's time for us to remember >> you know it's so Kathy it's uh Katherine knows this I've been going through Fritz Springme's on my channel work into the 13 bloodline families and it's from the '9s. So, of course, some of it we have to expand some of it now cuz thank you to Fritz Springmire and all the people and like you Kathy that were out there before there was an internet trying to get this information. And it's interesting because we talked about the Teflon issue with the DuPont and I find the DuPont to be just so wicked. Like they are wicked wicked. Um and um and that's part of the and I know we talked about with your self-sabotage, Katherine, you know, with the Teflon issue and that whole lawsuit that happened in the early was it the early 2000s when people were being deformed by the C8 chemical that they were that the that the DuPont company was knowingly put in like the non-stick pans and everything it caused. But that also is part of MK Ultra is to weaken us so that we we become more more um more compat like you know we become more uh vulnerable to what they're saying. And of course the dupants are all chemists. That's what they are. They're chemists. They were guner. They were you know I don't know how the guy Samuel got out of being guillotined in the French Revolution but he did. He he he knew people that got him out and got him to America. And that's what they do as their chemist. And that's what's interesting. It's like these families all have their specialty and they come together to like create madness in the world. And you're right. I just love that we we know all your secrets now. [laughter] >> Yeah. I love Yep. And anything that shuts down neuron pathways in the brain keeps us from thinking. Um and that's what they need. They need us compliant. So they shut down neuron pathways. We need to open our neuron pathways, reclaim our brilliant minds and lives. We We have been blessed with the most resilient body, mind, and spirit. We have so much more mental capacity than we're using. And um we need to start using it because we're being dumbed down from many directions um including the the chemicals. um big pharma with all of their drugs that they're giving to children um to make them compliant. Um when we look at um the what's happening in our skies, you know, what what are these chemicals that are being sprayed? What are they for? They're to taint our our food, our people. Um the other components of MK Ultra in addition to fear and trauma are sleep, food, and water deprivation. So then we understand why people work round the clock to put food on the table that's bioengineered and genetically altered. Why is our food bioengineered? To starve our brains. And so we've got to get good nutrition. Um the water has been tainted to dumb us down too because our brains are are over 90% water and and so that keeps them from firing properly with the the tainted water. So, we need we need plenty of rest, fresh water, um a good nutrition, and do everything to activate our brains like what you're doing there moving that pen, you know, that activates. >> I take every time you talk, Cath. >> Yeah. Yeah. [laughter] >> Well, yeah, me too. >> I'm writing down. [laughter] >> Yeah. Now, it's interesting you say about the water as well. So over in the UK, um due to thank you very much for the geoengineering, we've had no rain for literally months. Um so we're in a horrendous drought, but equally of course everyone knows about these new data centers that are springing up in all our countries which take not only take a huge amount of water but contaminate it. So, uh, you know, the the cognitive dissonance of people believing in man-made global warming and yet the same people who are spreading that are actually building all the data centers that are using all the power and the electricity that none of us are allowed to do. And I think what I I've seen and and I when I give this example is absolutely not to be mean to the person involved if they're watching, but just to put it in perspective, we've had no water in the rain in the UK for months. We're all on hose pipe bands and so they tell us that we can water our vegetables we're growing with the watering can but not the hose pipe. Well, of course, you're filling up the bloody watering can from the same tap that's running the hose pipe. And so many people are just so programmed into being so compliant. It's a bit like wearing the masks when you stand up and take it off when you sit down. And these are people that in other aspects of life are highly highly intelligent. But we're so programmed over generations not to question authority that even something as obvious as that people just accept and comply. >> Right. >> Yeah. And and we can't wake up for other people, you know, we we can scream as from the rooftops, you know, uh the truth and they can't hear it because of the program screaming in their ear. It's up to each individual to wake up. We're in the middle of a mental and spiritual evolution. And the vast majority of people on this planet are awake and aware and they're not uh given voice. They're not uh the media is not saying that that they're there. And um that keeps the ones that are just still, you know, using their watering can and wearing their masks. it keeps them um in the dark, you know. So, we we need to continue to amplify truth, get it out there um and uh raise that awareness because uh the most important thing we can do is live our freedom ourselves, live the love we are. And um you know it's it's like if if you're standing out there watering your garden with a hose and someone comes up to say you're supposed to be using this water can you can say well put your water can down there I'll fill it up for you. you know, I mean, just, you know, just show them the illogic [clears throat] of their of their programming and and it somewhat helps, especially over time because like blowing the whistle on MK Ultra mind control for over 35 years, you know, back in 1990, no one had a point of reference for the information. So I had to consider truth seeds of truth planted and that eventually um people would see it because truth never goes away >> and that is exactly um what's happened. I mean I've lived so long now and been doing this so long. I've seen this awakening process and and and have and see it um uh accelerate and expand. And it's it's deeply encouraging, but it's also frustrating to see how many are still being manipulated through the multigenerational conditioning that has gone on. Um, it takes that's why the spiritual evolution part of this is so important because when we gather the strength of the human spirit and the infinite power of love, we we have our soul expression. We have wisdom to outthink their their criminal minds. we have uh a critical analysis free thought that um where we know our own truth and we start having discernment of truth around us. So it's um it's it's an amazing time to be alive and see this spiritual evolution happening because it's that strength of spirit that is driving the freedom driving our victory um away from this uh dark low vibration negative energy force that's been uh manipulating minds for for so long. As more and more of us have that realization, it's um raising the whole vibration of the planet and more people are waking up and and and so it goes. Yet, it's much like um um when people go to a church and um someone is saved, you can't have be saved for someone else. They have that to go through that process themselves. And that's what we're in on a a a base core energy of being spiritual level is reclaiming that that strength and and being able to um live the love we are going forward. And in the meantime, the people who are still bowing down to hate, you know, all we can do is just live love and over outshine the the darkness of their own um minds. >> Why is it Kathy is there some secret recipe or something that the elites know? Why is it that you can have a family of like children like siblings and we come to this great awakening and you know same background, same school, same parents but half of the siblings have woken up and the other half haven't. Is there some genetic reason why that is? Or is it just paying attention? Like why why is it that you can have like a litter of kids? We'll say like whole family, same mom, same dad, same household, same childhood >> and half of the siblings are totally understand and the other one other half think their siblings are crazy still. What would that be? >> Um it it could be any number of things. It could be the music they listen to. It could be the video games that they play because video games program. Um it could be how much time they spend on a cell phone twiddling their thumbs on a cell phone. Um it could be any number of things that have made that that difference. It might be that um someone down the street got a hold of them while they were a child and they haven't remembered what happened to them in that trauma and so it leaves them highly suggestible the rest of their lives. That's why this pedophile agenda is a mind control agenda. It heightens suggestability and makes compliant makes people compliant. So I mean it could be something as simple as a boy scout troop that that was sexually abusing the kids. It could be in the church. It could be anywhere that this other little difference creeped in and affected um whomever because if it was genetic they that can still be overcome. Like I said, soul is stronger than genetics. So >> yeah, >> even [snorts] if >> that's such a good point and it really is a great reminder to everyone to drop a lot of the judgment. um we just don't know what other people have been through even people in your own families and often they don't know what they're going through and I think also like you've already mentioned the you know the food the water everything um but also we know that there's a huge impact of when you're in the womb and everything so there's so many unknowns that a lot of people >> I do want to ask you about a little bit more about the repetition and the confusion as mind control tools so you know we mentioned and the confusion repetition is so so key. And um I did some training on Bryce's platform at the weekend and I think people are blown away. We can hear it but people still think it's not them. Well, Bryce and I will be doing more on that tomorrow. But the repetition and the confusion go very much together, don't they? To keep people scrambled and not making decisions. >> Absolutely. That's um that's the point. Especially if the conscious mind is distracted with a trauma like like it was when mind control masters a virus was unleashed on the global population. The conscious mind was was distracted by the trauma of oh my gosh grandma's going to die. We can't hug each other. You know it was traumatic. So um that that trauma kept the conscious mind um distracted and the subconscious was wide open to being programmed. Now the subconscious mind drives our conscious mind and um if it drives our thoughts it drives our actions. So what goes into the subconscious mind is when it doesn't have the conscious mind filter um is what drives decisions. So the repetition that went in how many times did you hear mask up social distance get the injection you know that went into the subconscious drove the conscious decision. And there's so many people who said, "I wasn't going to do it. I don't know why I did it." As MK Ultra mind control and it was very deliberate and um and it it we we need to hold those programmers, those abusers accountable for their actions um and realize exactly what happened to us so that we never cooperate with it again. That is um the evolution of knowledge. That's our defense against mind control. There's so many people that gained that insight because now they're seeing the the effects of having cooperated with it and there they have deep regret and it so they they didn't cooperate when they tried to roll out the next one and the next one, you know, people said no. So, um, you know, when we're aware that it was the repetition that caused it, then when the repetition comes at us again for something else, we'll be able to think beyond it. >> And I want to I want to just pause on something because you said something I think we forget. Um, the society as well, like the be the pressure point of like, you know, forgiving people when you've said before, forgiving people when they were under mind control because that's not really them. And I know I've said before, I am so lucky to live in Georgia because during 2020, even though I live in Atlanta, which is like kind of a blue liberal city, the whole state is very conservative. So you go to South You were in South Georgia in 2020 and it was like CO wasn't even happening. They just weren't they weren't they weren't wearing masks. They were keeping their businesses open. And so for me, it was safe to be a rebel. It was safe for me to like go to the grocery store without a mask on because I was one of half of people in there without a mask on, right? And but I think about people like in New York City or California and how difficult that social pressure of going out being abused by people because you know and to have that empathy for people and you know props to you if you were in London, a city that was so overly consumed by it and I was one of many in Atlanta who was rebelling. So it was easy, right? It was easier to do that. But um but for the people who live in places where it wasn't so easy, you know, my heart goes out to you. That's that's hard. That's really hard and that's that humanity, right? To to recognize that in people that have that empathy for people in that situation. >> Yeah. It's having the compassion and the understanding, you know, and and it come the compassion comes with free thought. The ones who are following program cannot have compassion. They can't understand beyond their program. But we the ones that that were able to have compassion. So um where where I live too, there were very few people that cooperated with it. and our law enforcement said it was not a mandate, wasn't law, and they wouldn't enforce anything. So, there was no um there was no issue. The the small businesses stayed open. There was no problem. Um the only problem was the few people who watched CNN and you know, they were easy to see. They're the ones that masked and masked up their kids and and the kids would look at me with like terror, you know, and and and I would smile at them and telepathically, you know, just reassure that kids are so telepathic. telepathically reassure them that it we're all okay. It's we're going to be fine. And um and most of the time they'd pull their mask down and smile back, you know? I mean, it just it it made um a big difference in just living our freedom. And again, that's that's the best thing we can do through this curve of a a a global great awakening and this this mental and spiritual evolution we're in. um just maintain our space. It's like if you need to lift somebody up, if you crawl down into the pit with them to try to lift them, it's so much heavier. But if you stay right where you are and just lift them up, you know, it's easy. So, you know, we got to stay right where we are and stay strong in who we are and um help those who are lifting their hands to be lifted up because um aside from that, you know, we can't do it for them, >> right? It is interesting and I do wonder what you were saying about the children being telepathic which is so true. I mean we can we're all telepathic. We can all talk to >> we just get told that we can't >> but where I was it was very strictly locked down. Yet I never wore a mask. The only time I went to wore a mask is when I went to see my dad in a hospice cuz they literally wouldn't let me in without one and he was dying. Um but um but equally even when I was in London and I wasn't wearing one and everyone else was I walked past all the policemen and they didn't say anything. Now I might have just been very lucky because we did see other people the fear tactics which of course shown all over social media being you know wrestled to the ground and manhandled. So, I'm absolutely not saying that that didn't happen to other people, but what have you learned um through all your experiences, Kathy, about how uh it's a bit like bullies always go for, you know, you can they can tell exactly which child or which person someone's going to be bullied because of the energetic signature they're giving out. What can we as the masses learn about our own energy fields and our own sort of vibration, whatever you want to call it, so that we're not attracting this behavior to come and, you know, kick us down again. Yeah. It's all part of that process of remembering who we are and why we're here and aligning with the divine purpose that we're here to live. Such an amazing time to be alive. And my most recent book, Align with the Divine, deals with this subject completely because it it reminds people um of where our strength is and how we can how easy it is to access. It's a matter of remembering. I mean, it's our birthright. And it's a matter of shutting off devices for a while, too, and getting out in nature. Um animals are have high senses. They're telepathic. They're um they know who's good and who's bad. You know, dogs, we count on dogs to, you know, tell us that. Well, we c we've got that, too. We just forgot, you know, and we need to start exercising those abilities. And it's like animals will bring us back to our senses. And when we come back to our senses, we have so much capacity of of using our brains with the the intuitions and the heightened vibration that we are that we are untouchable. Um haven't been around perpetrators of global perpetrators. They're a low vibration, dark negative energy. They feed off of low vibration, dark negative energy. And um that's why you know people get targeted because they're still in that low vibration dark negative energy. And um their greatest fear is the strength of the human spirit and the infinite power of love because it's such a high vibration. They can't touch it. The only thing they can do is use trauma and MK Ultra means to shut down neuron pathways in our brain, dumb us down and make us forget to go within and and access all that to keep our brains firing brilliantly. You know, we we forget. We're so distracted. And that's the only thing they can do. That's what MK Ultra is all about in that regard. It's a spiritual warfare and it's one that we've already won. We've got the victory by design. It's we've been divinely designed where we have all this capacity and we can exercise it out again, you know, just by going within um and accessing the strength of the human spirit and and using that to um light our path forward. You know, when we shine our light so bright, we just expose what's going on in their darkness. exposes their dark secrets and it when enough of us shine our light, you know, so bright um will eradicate their darkness once and for all. And we're rapidly getting to that point. They are frantic to reclaim control of humanity. And um it's too late. You know, we've got the victory. People just need to um realize it. And if they're watching TV, that's a hard way to ever see what's really going on in our world. I was going to actually ask you that, Kathy. I was like, what in the world is going on in those secret meetings now? Because they must One thing about narcissists is they never see a a a world in which they lose. That's where that's the loophole that you get them because they can't possibly fathom not losing. And so, what do you think is happening in these little secret meetings? I mean, I I look at the World Cup as I was dreading the World Cup, but it ended up being one of the most beautiful things of humanity coming together. Everybody, all the videos of people loving each other. People forgot about the soccer. Everyone was just loving on each other and sharing each other's culture. And I just think, wow, that must have pissed the cabal off. Like, what's going on in these meetings right now, Kathy? Are they like throwing things? Like, they really, excuse my language, THEY [ __ ] UP. [laughter] >> They did. They did. They're stupid. I'm telling you, they are not intelligent. They they that's why they got to dumb us down to be like them. And and artificial intelligence, they're the ones programmed it. It's stupid. And if if you don't believe AI is stupid, uh try to talk into letting you talk to a person, you know? I mean, [laughter] it's just it's it's just that they uh they really are not intelligent. They making a lot of mistakes. The more frantic they are, the more mistakes they're making. And it's almost comical. I'm I'm so fortunate that my daughter Kelly is with me that and she has eyes to see like I do. And we just laugh. We just laugh at the foolish mistakes they continue to make all the time because they're they're they're completely tipping their hand. They're messing up. And um they know they're done. They know they know the vast majority of us are awake and aware. You know, the only problem is the vast majority of us don't know where the vast majority gets awakening aware [laughter] >> and all by design. So, I wanted to ask you about that because Bryce and I were talking before we started today and one of the things that we've just both noticed on the platform we're on now, YouTube, um, suddenly they're letting all the content be posted again. So, we all knew how heavily censored everything has been and that censorship is absolutely key to keeping us all under mind control. So, what's your view? One, for the audience, Kathy, can you explain how important the censorship is for the mind control? But secondly, why do you think they're letting us all get away with posting stuff that we'd never have got away with even a year ago? >> Yeah, I think I think is it's too late. It's the same reason why the MK Ultra hearings um came out at all. The first MK Ultra hearings were scheduled for um May 13th and they were postponed that the very last minute that day. That evening, the um director of national intelligence office, Tulsy Gabbard's office was raided by the CIA and boxes of MK Ultra documents were taken and um and Kennedy files were taken and those files were supposed to be under presidential order, declassified and um revealed to the people. and the CIA freaking out because they they know they're they're done um went and confiscated that information in order to attempt to maintain their secrecy. And at that time it was requested of me to uh provide MK Ultra documents from my vast experience on a White House Pentagon level. Um and and especially the healing from it because you know I'm I'm a the walking living example of healing and um not being able uh not know they're not able to trigger me back in or put me back under control because I've evolved with the knowledge that's my defense against mind control going forward. So it's not that they don't try things you know. So, I was writing my my uh MK Ultra documents and including uh some of the um the information that was censored from Transformation of America, my 1995 testimony for Congress that was censored before even it was released. Of course, national security is invoked on it. And that I'm no stranger to censorship, you know, but I was um I was sharing the information as requested and compiling it for about 5 hours when um I was slammed by a tornado out of the blue and it it hit my office. It hit my house. Um over 38 trees fell on my house and my my home, my beautiful um hundreds of years old oaks down on the house. Um the devastation was horrific, but the fact is no one was hurt. >> Yeah, >> the house is still standing. It needs a lot of repair, but the house is still standing. Um and um above all, I completed my documents and turned them in to those who requested it. So, haha, you know, if it was that it if it was any kind of an attack because I my house was the only one affected by this tornado and it came out of the blue. No path, no warning, no um nothing. Um, and it was um um quite quite quite a devastating experience in in many ways. But knowing that that was an attempted trauma or that even if it was nature, it was trauma no matter what. >> It was trauma that had to be dealt with in order to complete what I was doing. >> And my daughter Kelly was acutely aware of it and we went through it together. So, the first thing we did was take a walk, get out in nature, just walk away from it. And we weren't even halfway down the driveway and we saw these um geese coming across the driveway heading towards our little pond and the they had their little babies with them, these tiny little fluffs. It was like, how did they not blow away in the tornado? It was a miracle. I'm just like, what? Nature's resiliency is so amazing. So they they went and they got on the pond and they're and we're like, you know, yeah, nature's fine. What? We were concerned about the wildlife out here. It's all fine. They How can that be? And we turned around and there's 38 trees piled on the house on this one side. It's in the um the GoFundMe picture. People can look at it on the GoFundMe. It's on my website at trance-.com. all those trees. There's this one little red dot in the middle of it. Zoom in on it. It is the um hummingbird feeder. The hummingbird feeder stood. How it's They're delicate. And there were the hummingbirds buzzing around it. What? You know, we was like, "Okay, no matter what happens, we got this." You know, as usual. And you know, nature resiliency can teach us >> resiliency. And that's my most recent blog post I just put up on my website too. You know how important that really is uh for maintaining a balance. But ultimately the the clarity of thinking necessary to continue to go forward and not give in to censorship on any front. um it's easy to navigate through any of that when um when you stay grounded and who you are with strength of spirit. So um if you're liking what you're hearing here today, folks, a great way to help support Esoteric Atlanta is by joining our memberships. As Kathy has spoken about censorship, most of you guys know that we have been hit heavily, heavily with censorship due to some of the topics that we cover here. And because of that, we have been heavily punished financially. So, if you like what you're hearing and you want us to continue to put work out for you in this manner, um, a good way to help us is to join our membership. We have lots of fun. We've covered really fun topics. And before we get into the closing part of our conversation with Kathy O'Brien, here is just a sneak peek of what to expect in season two of Esoteric Atlanta's private memberships. 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Like you >> I know it it what was worse is is it took three days for the the the driveway to be unburied enough for the electric um company to get in, rehook up power and stuff like that. And as soon as the driveway was cleared, this car comes up the driveway. It was a Red Cross car. I never seen a Red Cross car before. one guy in it. Looks like a spook, you know, and and he drives up and he gets out of the car and he goes, "Oh, I was just checking to see if you're alive." And he got back in the car and left. What? What? >> You were so [laughter] obvious. Like, y'all are so cool. Like, you are so >> How about do you need anything, you know? Or, you know, >> Right. Right. Well, I'm going to say to my audience before I forget all and I'm sure same can speak for Katherine, too. All the links for Kathy will be in the description box. So, if you can donate a little bit to help, a little bit goes a long way, especially if everyone gives a little bit. Um, and I just like I'm so glad that you're laughing about this, Kathy, because I know they don't have a sense of humor. And so, I think that, [laughter] you know, that that's great to have that resilience. >> Absolutely. >> Can I ask how did your dog cope with that? Because animals have an amazing way to de-stress. Did your dog cope? Okay. >> Um, he did. He he had a hard time at first because all of his his little spots where he would walk and um relieve himself weren't there and and so he had to, you know, rethink that a minute, you know, and it it was it took an adjustment for him, too. But it was something we all shared together and went through together and um and and saw that the squirrels were still playing. So, I think that comforted him most of all. those are those squirrels are his friends and all the birds and you know and the raccoons everything was was fine and back. So I think all that um nature's resiliency um impacted him the same way it did us and plus you know he saw we weren't um crying you know we were >> we were moving forward and fixing things and he just wanted to be part of you know that too. So >> he he just had a bathroom renovation. That's all. He just got a >> Yes, he did. [laughter] >> A major one. >> Important message. First and foremost, people always ask what they can do. Well, the first thing we can all do is donate to Kathy's GoFundMe in the link below. And that's more than just, you know, Kathy, you've been speaking out and helping so many people across the globe for so many years doing that. So that's enough reason on its own, but it's also a big FU to the people in control to say no, together we will stand together because we've got to support each other. Community is absolutely key to this and like you said earlier, you know, it there are strength when you can support other people, standing out, supporting the good causes. We've all got different roles in this, but um you know, spread the message. Anyone who's in the UK that hasn't got your um link to the conference, I'll put the link below. Come and see Kathy, David Ike, Billy Carson, Danny Henderson. Come and see them in person and share that energy because when you actually get together, um you just can't replace that energy, can you? To face to face connection. >> That's right. And and that that conference is especially just just so phenomenal for that and in that regard. And I'm I'm so excited uh to be there. And yeah, people helping people makes all the difference. And I'm so deeply touched by all the people who have um sent prayers and well wishes from whatever their their direction is good vibes, you know, good vibes and that that makes all the difference. Um people who um have have donated and helped out. I I deeply appreciate it because the system has totally failed us. you know, that the insurance that we're forced to pay into by law that does nothing except spit in the face in in in in the wake of a disaster. And and it's just always people helping people that make all the difference. And the best way for people to do that is to get out in their communities and and make a make a difference right in their their own community, right in their own backyard, and then go to events like Jes and and and feel the vibe and all the people, you know, it it it's such it it's so amazing. That is what's bringing back the strength to humanity. Um is is just reconnecting again. Because when we remember who we are and why we're here and have that strength of spirit and that that soul connection with each other, it's where we all naturally connect. We don't need a global new world order great reset imposed on us. We just need to be who we are and live the love we are and we all naturally connect in the most beautiful way with compassion and love and care for each other. That's so I think and I think people especially if you're like me you're watching from a city. I think sometimes we forget but I think most of the world actually is that way and that's where I think we shine the best. I we just got back a month ago from Paulie's Island where my mom's family's from. This little island off the sa off this coast of South Carolina and the kids there get to ride on bikes without anybody around. No one locks their door. Everybody stops to see if you're okay, you know, and that's just a little old community in South I mean that's all over the world. People are that way. You can leave your expensive fishing gear or whatever outside. No one touches it because everyone respects each other and the community looks out. No one bothers the children because everybody knows the children and lets them ride their bikes around the town without >> any worries whatsoever. Parents don't have to worry. And I think a lot of places are, you know, besides cities, I mean, there are good people in cities. But, you know, we think about that in all over America is really small towns. That's really what America is. And all over England and Europe and the world, the these these things still exist. And that's who we are as people really at the end of the day are trustworthy, loving, responsible human beings. Absolutely. That's so beautifully said and and and Kelly and I were deeply touched. Within 20 minutes, the neighbors were coming up the drive with equipment to dig us out, you know, and and they worked round the clock to do it. And it was a um it it just communities, just people caring um and making the difference with each other. That's that's what we need. We got to stop relying on big government. They're not going to fix things for us. It's up to us. We can't wait on a corrupt system to protect the children. It's up to us, you know. We just got to remember um that that we have all that strength. We have so much capacity and it's up to us to to um reclaim self personal responsibility, self-governance and start making the difference in our own lives. It's up to us to be the change rather than waiting for the government to do it for us. It's not going to happen if we keep waiting on that. >> Amen. Amen. >> Amen. >> I'd love to ask you a little bit more if we can just to finish off about your book, Align with the Divine. Um because there's so much I mean your books are all amazing in very different ways. But what can people expect from that book and how can it really help them into their day-to-day life? Because I do see a lot of people who are on this journey of really understanding what's going on in the world and why things have gone so pear-shaped. It's so hard for people not to slip into that fear vibration, particularly when they see the AI agenda going full pelt, particularly when they see data centers going up on their farmland and getting more and more difficult to get food and water. Um, so what how can that book help them Kathy? It's so much of a help to people um especially other survivors who um they always wondered how I can smile and you know be so strong and everything and it's like because this and it's so exciting to share it and I hear from survivors all the time who um who read it that um that that slept all night for the first time in their lives and um woke up knowing peace for the first time in their lives. And it's just an important little reminder to all of us. And u apparently it's more important than I mean I thought it's just birthright information but um it is being censored as hard as transformation of America. My 1995 testimony for Congress and it's and it's like come on people it's peace and love. What it's nature nature is our nature. What what's so scary about that? But um it empowers people uh to access that that beautiful resiliency of body, mind and spirit that um that strength of the human spirit within us. And um it's not about um um religion. It's not about outside doctrine. It's about birthright information that um nature helps us regground in. >> Katherine, I I pulled it up. Can I share screen just so our audience can see it because I think that Oh, I think I have I think I have it here. >> Awesome. Just so our audience can have a visual. Um, this is from Kathy's website. So, of course, I can think I think I can speak for both Katherine and myself. We will have these links down in the description box to make it easy for you um to help. Um, but that's it's beautiful the way the cover is. So, um, I love >> Kelly designed it. >> Well, tell my daughter Kelly designed the cover. >> Good job. She did a fabulous job. >> I'm so proud of her. >> I know. It's be it's beautiful blue color. I love the coloring. I always tell people children know God. Like you don't need like if you've got a 2-year-old, a three-year-old, they can't even wipe their own butts, but they know God. They don't need like a church to talk [laughter] to God. They just, you know, like they don't need a Sunday school teacher. They they know God. Like they they know God. So, [laughter] you know, um Yes. I love that. I love that. >> Fantastic. So, any final message for people, Kathy, when they're thinking um you know, questions we get all the time and comments we get all the time. Yes, I know that, but it's more difficult for me. Any final sort of words of wisdom for people that are really struggling at the moment or or very overwhelmed with the direction that they see the world going in? >> Absolutely. I encourage everyone look at my healing trilogy. I've got three books out on healing now. um PTSD time to heal and um resolutions and align with the divine and um it's helping so many people uh whether they're victims of of trauma and trafficking or not. You know, this is a traumatic planet. Everyone everywhere needs this um information and it and it gives us the strength to understand what's going on around us and and more compassion. Um, people can find my books um, secured on my website at trance-.com. Um, they're all on Audible, read by me u to preserve the integrity of information. And, um, I also encourage people to look around my website. There's a lot of blog posts there that show um, what is going on today. And um I'll be posting very soon a lot of the information on MK Ultra documents that um that I was working on um at the time of the the tornado and um you know it there's so much information there. I encourage people to look this when um I'll I'll be posting this interview discussion with you you YouTube loves um on my website too. So there's so much information there and I encourage people to look into it and then you know remember who they are, why they're here, have compassion for each other, start live in love and effectively protect our children going forward. >> Love it. Thank you so much, Kathy. We always love our conversations with you. As I said, I'm beyond excited for not long till we meet in person for the first time. Any final words from you, Bryce? I just I I always say I said this before we filmed and I'll say it. I told my boyfriend I was like no matter how I'm feeling with the state of the world, every time I talk to Kathy, I'll walk away feeling so much better about our future. And that is a gift, Kathy, to be able to make people feel like they can they can take care of themselves. And you give so much love even through these interviews. And so I thank you for that. And I thank you for giving us part of your time. Um because I know you're you're a busy lady. And we let's celebrate for a moment that finally after all these years people like Kathy O'Brien, David Ike that they are actually like we humanity is like thank you now because I know for many years Kathy it must have been very frustrating. Um and so I'm so happy for you guys that now people actually know what you're saying now and believe you and um and I think that's a huge turning point for humanity. >> It is. Thank you. >> Thank you ladies. Thank you everyone for watching. Let us know in the comments below what's given you the most hope. Has this inspired you to take any action? And um connect him with all Cathy's links below. Thanks everyone. Bye >> bye. [music] Let me show [music] you the sky. I love you. Solless ahead of her.