Callahan House Board - August 2026

Yeah, they said workers come and it's 9:30. We can get started. Cindy is um not here today, but Julie will um um serve as secretary in her absence for today. Um so, uh the agenda, has everyone reviewed the agenda? Any questions or or thoughts or anything? Are we okay? If there are no corrections, then a motion will be helpful. A motion to approve. >> Okay. Thank you. Julie moves to approve the agenda. Do we have a second? >> A second. >> Thanks, Chair. And are we all in favor? >> Yes. Let's see. Okay. So, next is the approval of the July 8th um Calam House Advisory Board minutes. Has everyone reviewed those? and try to get any questions or concerns that we need to address. And if not, then um a motion to approve the minutes would be helpful. >> I'll second. >> Okay. Then I I guess I move the motion. >> Be helpful. Do you want to move to approve the minutes? >> Yes. >> Is there a second? >> We'll second. All right. Thanks, Angela. Are we all in favor? >> Yep. It's just little formalities but yeah. Okay. All right. We will move along to there is no one from the public um here to speak with us. So we'll move beyond that item and into old business. Thank you. We have um the digitized scrapbook. And Jeff, do you have an update to share at this point? >> I have some information. Um, I was out downtown the last two weeks. I don't know exactly what what has uh gone on the last two weeks. No, we were down there approximately two weeks ago and continued on scanning the first book um I don't know if anyone had an opportunity to continue that scanning. >> Cindy finished it um on Monday. >> So, it is finished. Okay. >> And she has it. She she took it with her. So, we'll get it back from her. >> Okay. Very good. whenever she's back. >> Okay, great. >> So, we're at a pause for that project until next month. >> We are at a pause on that particular book, >> but we still need to continue numbering the pages on the additional books. >> Okay. >> So, I know we started book number two. I'd like to if we can set up a committee meeting later during this meeting in order to continue that process. >> All right. >> So, the first one's done. Is that what I heard? >> The scanning is done. >> Scanning is done. >> Yeah. >> So, I'll work on processing that PDF and get it over to LPM to start making scripts. Um, and then for the labeling, we kind of talked a few scan sessions ago. um if committee members were interested in taking just because I think if we only are setting like one or two committee meetings a month and working on it for a couple hours, all of this all of the labeling needs to be done before we send those off. So, um we had talked about maybe if people are interested in taking some of the books home and working on them on their own time, >> I would be comfortable with that if committee members want to do that. Um, so I wanted to see if there were further thoughts about that just to help keep that keep that rolling because otherwise I think it's going to be a long time before those all get scanned. And we did reconnect with the vendor. Um, and they're going to they're going to get them all in one, but they'll they'll send us some samples to start and then we can approve finishing it from there. >> But they weren't going to take just the one. >> Yeah. So obviously we needed to complete our work. >> All the labeling for all the books needs to be done before they're going to start those scans. So I think just to keep it rolling if if anybody's interested in taking a book home and working on it individually doesn't mean committee meetings can't happen also. But just to just keep that going because how many books are there? >> There's eight total the first little one that already got scanned. But >> I think it's a very good idea to do that. I know we have been moving slow in scanning because we had a small window that we could actually use equipment >> and also know the summer months everybody's pretty busy so it's been hard to >> to schedule meetings have people be able to spend that type of time that's required for that. >> Yeah. But I think anybody, again, you can still do committee meetings also and bring books together, but um anybody that's interested in taking one home and willing to work on it individually, I think that would be good thing to do. >> I'd be willing to take a couple. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Um >> I would I would too, but I'd need to know what the heck I'm doing. >> Yeah. Yeah. Maybe we do another committee meeting to like make sure everybody's solid in the process or >> um any candy. Okay. And I guess we might need to get some more pencils also. How many are there? Two. Two of each. >> Two of each. Yes. >> Okay. So, yeah, we might need to get some more supplies, but Okay. >> All right. We'll discuss that at our next meeting and come up with a Okay. >> Yeah. Maybe have another committee meeting. Make sure everybody's good on it. In the meantime, I can get some more supplies and then go from there. Decide who wants to take what. >> Right. >> Okay. >> I can't remember. Do we have a deadline that we want to get all of these numbered by? Well, originally we wanted to have last year. >> Yeah. >> So, as soon as possible, you know, given the other commitments that we have, but um I think that would help keep this moving. >> Are currently all at the museum. >> They're all here other than that Cindy has. Yeah. >> Okay. >> So, >> so our next responsibility on the first book would be to respond to the Altex needs. >> Yes. I need to process the PDF and then I will get that to the committee for alt text. That's the next ongoing bit. So, >> and any idea when we should review those needs? >> Um, I'll try to get that done for whenever we set the next committee meeting for it. Shouldn't I haven't done it in over a year now, but um I don't think it should take too long. I'll just try to have it ready for the next meeting. So, we'll see when that gets scheduled and I'll do my best to get it done before then and then that can be part of part of that too, at least getting started on it. >> Did you happen to get a site visit by the company so that they could look at the books and give a more accurate estimate of what they're going to charge for this? >> They're not going to come up before we're ready to send the books with them. Um, but as we go through and label everything, we'll have a better page count than my estimate. And so at that point, like they said their estimate is accurate if the page count is accurate. So once we have everything labeled, we'll know the page counts. So it's about page count more than um how there are several pages of of information on one page. >> Well, and that factors into the page count. So that'll be something like when we're going through and labeling like for example there's one that's got a pocket that just has a bunch of like brochures and booklets and things in it. So that'll be something that like you know we need to decide how much of that if any of those kind of things get digitized. So via the labeling process you know as you're labeling also need to kind of take a full page count because some things are you know item 14 a b cde ef whatever. Um, so getting an accurate page count of of how many scans are actually taking place is going to be part of the labeling process so that we can get a more exact quote. >> So they charge it by the page. So what what do they charge per page? >> Whatever he said, I don't I don't remember, but the initial estimate based on my page count was 1500, I think. and your page count was >> I'd have to look back at the email, but we just need to get a more accurate page count to get a more accurate estimate, but >> put this into perspective with respect to the cost. And I know that, >> you know, we we've already we've already talked about it. We've already talked about, yeah, it's probably a good idea to go ahead and do this. It's a company that the museum has recommended. That's great. But are we writing a blank check here or do we really know what's the cost of this project? >> We will know a better estimate before we send the books off once we have a page count. Okay. >> So that will also be a helpful piece of information that we'll get from the labeling. >> That's for all the books. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And at the last meeting we discussed the appropriation of funds from our house fund. >> Yeah. Is that >> that's already in the works? We should know. I think it's September 22nd or something like that. Council makes the final decision on that. And we did go ahead and put in for 2500 um in case we need more. But any of that money that doesn't get used can roll back into the house fund at the end of the year. So we put in for some extra. >> Okay. Good. Thanks. >> Is that everything for digitized scrapbook? >> So yes. All right. All right. We'll move on to patrons at the Callahan House. Um I'm going to give everyone a stack of these. As you probably well probably know, um the most recent thing I did was take the letter and that's just board members because essentially it's it's just board members essentially. So because basically what you're going to do is take there's seven. I'm giving you seven and of the seven and and just so you know actually you can you can take one as well for me just because the reality thank you um because the reality of it is is this is kind of our last little easy you know reach out to anyone we know friends or family businesses that you were thinking oh it'd be nice to include them and This includes this is a letter that goes across the board. It allows for um businesses, organizations, individuals and families. along with the letter is the form. So that it makes it very easy as you're just handing this to anyone to let them have the paper form and be able to check off, you know, what they would prefer if they want to be an individual or family donor or if they want to be a company or organization donor. Um, I know the letter in here reads that in the last paragraph, um, become a patron by the 15th of August. However, I'm okay with, and if you are okay with, then I think it's all right to just go ahead and write over that we're extending it to September 15th because that's the most recent um information that we put out there to to say, "All right, please sign up by September 15th." um that's going to be kind of our deadline for our final headcount. So, you can go ahead and just strike out the the word August and write uh September on it. And as you're just handing these two to people that you know, um have we added any more patrons since a couple months ago? >> Not that I'm aware of. There was just that whatever that last one was. I can't remember who it was now, but no, most of them came in April. >> Came through in April. We've had one or two trickling since then. But >> so but this universal letter will help for individuals, families, businesses, organizations across the board. Makes it very easy. And one last little um attempt to get the word out. Um and um let's see. I think one thing that we had talked about before was doing an advertisement in the Chamber of Commerce e newswsletter. They charge $20 and it is up to 500 characters and it can include links. And so what I did was put together this um make sure I've got one, two, three. Yep, I think I do. Goes down that way. It's great as well. And that one. Um so what this is is that on the top it is a 477 character um proposed advertisement for that chamber of commerce newsletter. And if this is acceptable to you all, then I'd like to recommend that we go ahead and spend the $20, submit this advertisement to the Chamber of Commerce for printing in their next earliest Wednesday um e newsletter. And and with this, you'll see the word um invitation on the very bottom line. Invitation is under well it's underlined. It may or may not be able to see it very well. Invitation and donor form are underlined and that's intended to be that those are links. So this >> um my only question is linking the invitation >> to the fall event >> means it has to be web page. >> No, it's not an invitation to the fall event. It's an invitation. It's the letter. Yeah. >> Okay. that links to this. So, it's a letter. >> So, it's the letter. Yes. Behind this little um draft that's stapled to the front is the letter invitation. We invite you to partner with us as a patron. That's our invitation to to them to partner with us as a as a patron. So, that invitation would include this letter. And then I would also recommend just so that it's super easy the form which is also attached here. And you'll see that I I modified a bit just to make it more simplified, more streamlined. You choose um the the company or organization or individual families. So it's just more consolidated. And since we're opening up all of the tiers to everyone, they check which one they are and then they check the tier they want and if it's applicable as far as if they are a um business or organization, if they're at a silver patron level or higher, then their logo gets included in the online um acknowledgement that that kind of thing. it. But this this letter and the form could be attached to the link that says invitation and then the form itself can be attached just to donor form. >> So the donor form is essentially in two places. >> One right behind the letter. So it makes it just easy. If they go right to the invitation letter and they see that and then they also have the donor form, it's easy. They don't have to click anywhere else. that's done. Or if they're like, well, I've read through this. I'm they click on the donor form, then it's there. So, >> so the way that the website is set up is you go to the patrons page and you go through the process, fill out the form, and then it sends them to the online donation. >> Uh, but this is an advertisement that we're going to put in an e newswsletter that's going to um be links. And I think given that this is a whole different type of >> so what we can do is link it to the patrons page where you start the form and then on the donor form one we can link it to the donation page but there's not like a PDF of these forms on the website because that's not how people go through that process. So I can link it to those two you know areas but it's not going to go exactly to this form. That's not that's just not how to find set up on the website. >> I don't think Karen is asking to go to the website at all. Right. I think >> if you're on your phone reading the newsletter and you click on it, then the PDF comes up and you either print it or email it to yourself or or something like that. PDF live. >> If it's a link, it has to be hosted online. >> Not if it's a PDF. >> It's just a document that you >> if you're like click here to find the form for your next >> I visit. Where does where does that get hosted from? Well, you I think you send this check with Pat because I really don't know, but you send the advertisement to the Chamber of Commerce >> with the two PDFs. >> Yeah. And it just and and the links to the PDFs >> and they link it. >> I don't know. So, that's that's the part that I was link. But that is exactly what I'm trying for because >> I hear what you're saying. >> Yeah. It's simple. It's clean. It's easy and neat. I mean, depends if they can host the link somewhere. I mean, the PDF has to live online somewhere for it to be found via a link. >> It's not on our website like this. >> So, I guess if that's something they can do for us, >> can you try? >> But I would say that the cleanest way to link is directly to that patron's page. Okay. and completely skip the form altogether because you post exactly what they need to sign up as a patron on the website. >> So I think creating a PDF it may be an additional step that maybe we don't need. >> So the letter is different than what we have on the website. It needs to be >> but it goes to it goes to >> the site and then people can click organization or individual. I think if in the PDF we're asking people to then either print it out or mail it >> or email it, but if they can just go through >> the link directly online, >> is there a way to do it from their phone? If we link the PDF, we're negating that. Is there a way to temporarily change the like the entry page for the um patrons? >> We could change the letter to just be the combined letter instead of the two separate ones >> and then maybe add an option for individual or because there are some like there's some that we've gotten that they were reached out to as an organization but just wanted to donate as an individual um or vice versa. So, and then it would read exactly how you want it. So, it would be temporary welcome page for potential patrons. It would read uh it would display everything that you have on the PDF and then it's easy and clickable and they can fill out their information and pay. That way somebody can do it right from their phone or >> Yeah, that's that's what I'm thinking. Most people are looking at these things uh via their phone and adding a PDF element might be a little bit clunky. >> Um, however is most functional, but this is the right letter and this is the right form. So, whatever it it's different. >> I realize that, but all of the information is still on the website the same >> way. So the question then is do we want to change the letter on the website to just be one combined letter or do you want >> Yes. >> the two individual. Okay. Then the form needs to change so that they have an option to select >> No, it's there. >> And that's what this is. >> Okay. So then we're just going to use one letter moving forward. >> Yes. >> Okay. Where is the letter on this page? >> When you're when you're saying that's Well, that's what I'm saying is it's not exactly. So then you go in, you choose one of these and then it gives you the letter. Was this ever through um legal? >> Not legal, but our um >> helps me set it up. >> Uh what is the phrase? Like I'm losing it. >> The reading level being at um ADA. >> Um it's our >> eighth grade reading level or what? Oh, why am I >> plain language? >> Plain language. That is the word I'm looking for cuz I think that most things that are this on our website that are like this are supposed to be in plain language. >> I just didn't know if we had run it through that um so software. I mean you could tell by some of the stuff that's on there that it's not. >> Um okay. So if that's how you want it set up, then the option is instead of the two flags on the website for click organization or individual, >> then it just needs to be one. But that's going to take time because I have to have Ian help me with that. And It takes time. So, or we can leave it how it is and it directs them to that main patron's page and they pick one of the two letters how they were previously written. I think we need to go to the one letter correct and it's going to take some time because I think that is probably the way that it's going to work most effectively going forward. >> So then when you first go to the patrons of the Calan House link, it's going to start with the the letter. >> Let me see. >> Or would you still have that? Yeah, I mean we could get rid of the two flags and it's just the letter right there and then there's like the donate flag. >> Yeah, you just get rid of both of those and I'll just change that. >> Okay. >> And then I just need to have him. You can just more or less change where the form lives. Yeah, maybe I can just delete those. Anyway, we'll figure it out. >> And it would be worth a phone call to Cat just to ask her. That's something that I know if you're talking about somebody using their phone and and doing that via their phone, but if if that's not the case or if if it is a possibility, >> it's just still takes them to the information that says like that the form can be sent to somebody if they want to mail it. >> So, I think we just need to keep things updated and and modern and as easy as possible for people to donate. >> Yeah. And that's why this is a more streamlined way of doing that. So that's why the change for the letter and the form. >> Karen, how often does that newsletter go out to the chamber? >> Every two weeks. >> Okay. And is it $20 every time? >> Well, we're going to do >> Well, I think we're only doing one time. >> Yeah, we're going to do like a one time submission. So, so is everyone okay with the drafted advertisement the language? Because here's your audience. It's the chamber of commerce commerce members. This is that's so I think is it readable understandable? Is it simple? All the all of the members of the chamber of commerce will be receiving this in an e newsletter >> which I think is quite helpful. I think it's concise andformational. >> Does it get the job done? >> Are you going to change that last sentence because you're not if we're not linking the two different pieces of information, would you would you modify your last sentence or would you just make one of them a link? I mean we can yeah because it's >> just say please we encourage you to visit our website >> more donate something like that >> cuz then you're also bringing them to the house page which then expands to what else you do and what else someone could do here and >> meetings. >> Yeah, that exposure is a little higher at the website level. Yeah, like please visit the patrons of the Callahan House web page to learn more >> to learn more and donate. >> Those are the calls to action. >> Does that work? >> However, it's most efficient. Okay. Just get it done. I think anyway it's one thing that if if if nothing more it will be a reminder for some who may have received the letter and definitely will be news to those who haven't because as we might um I guess let's go through some numbers. So when we pulled together all the the members from the chamber of commerce, we had a total of 281 that we actually had letter that we had information so that we could send letters. It was a name and an address. Sometimes we had a phone number. But of those um only there there were on top of that there was another 126 companies that were listed with the chamber and we didn't have enough information to include them in mail or email. And so there's a whole other 126 members of the chamber that have not received any information about the patrons. And then backing backtracking to the the letters that were sent of that 281 letters, we only had 142 of those companies email addresses. So only 142 of those were emailed as a followup. Um and then of of which 26 of those bounced. So they were incorrect emails. Um and basically I just I think that there were A total of confirmed open emails were 52 out of the 142 email address emails sent. So it's a third. So twothirds of the um intended recipients did not receive the the communication. So, this is just the way that we can probably best reach all of the Chamber of Commerce members and give them an easy opportunity. Again, it's about convenience. We need to make it very easy process for them to quickly read and become a patron if they so choose. So, however we can make that happen, that's that's the plan. Um, is everyone okay with the with this? And then whatever you need to change at the end to make it um work or function, will that be okay? >> Mhm. >> Okay. All right. Um, if and and again, please please make an effort to get these. I just gave gave everyone seven, so I wasn't asking much of everyone. Just just get those out to to people, you know, and see if we can add more patrons to our group for this year. Um, let's see. We will go ahead and um set our next committee meeting later in this agenda. So, we'll move along to restoration and preservation. Um, but you do have some updates. >> Yeah, the big the projects in play right now are the fountain and the sconce. Um, they finished the sconce and they're going to bring it back next Friday to reinstall. So hopefully it stays fixed. Um, and then the fountain um, purchasing has started another round of trying to get bids for that. Um, that's I heard back from him earlier this week. So, those are being sent out again. So, hopefully we'll get some more bids. Um, I think if if we don't by I don't know, maybe September, then we might need to think about moving forward with the one that we have cuz the fountain is very in need. So, um, yeah, which the the one that was on file was the 20,000 from our citywide award vendor. So, we don't have to technically have another bid to move forward with it. We just wanted to to make sure that it made sense, but um it needs it needs done. >> Do you this fall? So, >> do you need some support >> with finding somebody who could repair? >> If you Yeah. Yeah. And for any like restoration or preservation projects that board members, snow people or want to do some research, you're very encouraged and that's appreciated. um what their spec the the problem is for all for most projects around here finding anybody that that does the thing for one um is is interesting and a historic fountain isn't a very common project but what they're what they're doing is there's some resurfacing and resealing of the actual cement that needs done because it's leaking and then there's some plumbing work underneath so I don't know the other thing is they have to have a Um, I'm losing the actual name of it, but there's a special certification and safety procedures and equipment that they need to have to enter the space underneath. Um, so I can send you some more information, some better details, but it's a pretty specific job. So, but luckily we got at least one person to bid on it, I guess. So, and >> what's the time frame of >> I would like >> when to do it? >> Yeah. >> Seasonal wise, >> waiting for after weddings to be done. So, I would like for it to be done like in October if we could. >> Um maybe November at the latest. Yeah. But and if not, you know, then we're looking at this spring. >> Um but I would really like for it to get done this fall. >> So, this only going to get worse in the winter time. This fountain's been repaired before. >> So, did you find that group that did it before? >> No, I think I would have to have more specifics on exactly when that was done to look back through, you know, purchase statements and things like that. So, >> you know, do you know if it was done like while Kathy was here or while >> I would say was here? >> Wesley was here. >> Yeah. if she happens to know off the top of her head like a month at least of when it was done, I could do some dating. But just going back for some time in the last I don't even know 10 to 20 years. >> Yeah, >> records have changed quite a bit. >> Um, so yeah, those are the two main things that are the focus right now, >> but I'll send you some more details about that. I can send those out to everybody, but um in case anybody wants to do some digging, but purchasing has been putting that out through they use bit online um to get companies to bid on that stuff. But anyway, that's uh I think all I have for that for now. So then for the farmal formal garden plan, um we have a meeting with Sheila and Scott scheduled for this Friday, right? You've got that. >> Yeah. And that's an online meeting. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And it is um to review their proposed plans and costs and um I do have the some drafted language to include in that one letter one page letter of intent that all of that has to go on >> for the grant. >> Yeah. to to complement it because there are they have some specific things that they're they're looking to to know about um about the project. So So along with that we we'll have to get that done and submitted before the end of this month. It's I think the and yeah the deadline is the 30th. So, um, so this Friday, hopefully we'll be able to review those, get that in the letter of intent, and then know how much space we have to put just the other con supporting information about the house and and the property. Um, because it they're really strict about the the one page. If it's over a page, it's denied. Just they reject it. >> Yeah. Who's the grant? It's Colorado Garden Foundation. And so that's who we're submitting this letter of intent for. And our hope they do a maximum grant of 15,000. And I would like to I think we've already talked about this, but our hope would be to request that full amount. So, um I anticipate that the costs are going to um probably be meet or exceed that at least. And of course, the grant is really just for um materials. It's not for labor, but the city has a a budget um for the labor part. >> Well, a budget request. >> Budget request. >> Do we know if there's a time frame in which the work has to be done with this grant money? We don't have that kind of information yet. >> Okay. But there could be >> a deadline. >> I imagine that as soon as we've got the letter of intent in and they've accepted that, then the next steps they'll provide to us and we'll have more structure to >> to follow. >> Okay. Um, so anyway, that you you won't really have the opportunity except I guess if we were to email it out to everyone just for your information before the end of this month um to to look at it. Does anyone have any concern or do you have a preference? Do you want it emailed to you? Um, and it may be pretty static. In other words, it may be more of a it's the information is in there is really not modifiable and and so it's just more for your information um to know in advance of um the f of of the submitting the letter of intent. Do you want an email of that or I don't imagine we want yet another committee meeting for something like that? So, you're referring to the actual grant, >> the letter of intent of intent. >> We have to file with the Colorado Garden Foundation by August 30th. >> It's a one page. >> Would it be acceptable if we just send it out to you on email and say, "Here's what we've come up with. This is based on CSU extensions um drafts and costs and the cities um understanding part of the costs and and then just a little bit of Callahan House information that of course is always pulled from the information we have about the house to support it. But in the letter, I'm just looking it up right now. says in the letter, "Applicants must include how the Colorado Garden Foundation will be recognized." Is that in there? What >> it it will be because it's similar to how um History Colorado was in our grant, our large grant from them. They wanted to know how they would be acknowledged or recognized. And so, the same kind of um information I'm going to use exactly what I put in that grant for History Colorado. same kind of acknowledgement for um Colorado Garden Foundation because it was approved through the city to do what we did that way. I think it's it will in it aligns with what the city accepts. So, we'll be we'll definitely be covering that. >> Okay. >> How how do we acknowledge organizations such as that? >> Well, some want um it will be dependent on what their expectations might be. Some want um inclusion of um a sign. Some want inclusion of of that information in um something that we publish or um information about the house that we provide to our guests. Um and we could very well include it in an upcoming open house event. Um, so there's all sorts of different ways that you can acknowledge and um and and yes, include. Um, >> do we have any guidelines or restrictions on things such as signage that would identify a group's participation and donation? >> Well, there are guidelines on signage in public buildings, but I don't think that that would be problematic. But we can >> find out. I think it's like political sign personal >> things like that. But otherwise, I think we should be all right. >> I think it's >> I think there was a sign. There was a sign for the >> There was >> Yeah. for the last project that History Colorado did. >> Yeah. >> So, yeah, we should be okay. >> And and they and History Colorado provided that sign. It's not something we um create or anything like that, but we we agree to >> um post it. Do we submit a specific plan and request along with this letter of intent or is it just a written description of what we are requesting? >> This is just a one-page letter of intent uh with brief description of of the what we're doing, who it serves, and who's involved. And then from there it'll get more um after the letter of intent is accepted then we'll get more guidelines and and as far as how the grant application needs to be completed. >> So this letter of intent is just the first step in the process. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Do you know when the actual grant deadline is or we we don't know about it either? >> Okay. >> It says that it's due by the 30th. Yeah. Selected applicants will be requested to submit complete details by September 30th. Um, grants are selected by early December with distribution of funds by December 31st. >> Yes, that's right. >> But it doesn't say to be used in 2027. >> Yeah. >> Just concerned if the parks budget doesn't get approved then how we find the money for the >> Well, you're going to know about the parks budget uh by the end of this month. budget is. >> So, we'll be requesting a specific amount of money. >> Yes. >> And that's going to be based on the estimated cost proposal receipt from Scott and Sheila. >> Yeah. And and approved with the city. Yes. >> So, it's going to be what Scott and Sheila created and then what the city also agrees. Yes. That >> that >> Are you still talking about recognition? No, but how much are you we'll be requesting? >> I sound like the full amount of to request the full amount and then if they award us half then they award us half or whatever. >> Right. So we're presuming that their cost estimate from Scott Shield is going to exceed $15,000. >> I would expect. So, we're going to request $15,000 >> as long as what as long as what they uh have have put together um is at or greater than 15,000 in costs and that's materials. >> Um then yes, I see no reason why not to ask. No, >> just going to clarify what we're asking and if we can support >> Yeah. >> that amount. Well, the biggest support on our part, I think, is do we have that the funding in the budget to to um as needed, but but that is more related to labor, right? >> The budget request for from parks. >> Yeah. >> Um we I just don't know anything until the end of August when the proposed budget is put out. >> But that is just for contracts. >> Just work. >> Yeah. Is what they >> Okay. Okay. >> Yeah. >> For so All right. after we have a letter of intent um complete, we'll email that to everyone just as a FYI so you can read it. Won't necessarily be modifiable at that point. Um but it's just more to keep you informed. >> Okay. All right. And then um we'll move that covers that, right, Britney? You don't have anything more to Okay. um the room by room tour book and the QR code tour. So >> right on the tour book uh we completed our electronic form after our last meeting and I believe you had uh communicated with the printer with some samples and call things. >> Yeah, we got samples for the tour booklet. Um so we can look at those. And then as far as an update for the QR code tour, I've reached out twice. Um, I haven't heard it back yet from the folks that I need help with to get that posted. So, I will keep keep trying, but as soon as they I just need them to like create the page and link it because I can't do that portion, but then once that's there, I can put in all the content and everything. So, I will keep pushing. But sometimes that's how it goes with >> Okay. >> Yeah. with that. Um, but for the for the booklet, so I've got pricing and some samples. Um, so what we have here is the two different bindings that we were considering. Um, one that's just, and I'll pass these around, but one that's just like a staple down the middle type binding. Um, and then, uh, this one is called perfect bound, and it's more of like a pressed. This is a more sort of finished material, but he was able to just run this through really quick because they had their uh machine going yesterday, but so this kind of like pressed uh binding. So these are the options that we are looking at um that were when Jeff and I went and visited the printer, they were kind of recommended for our purposes. Um they talked about the spiral binding being more of like a reference guide type of a situation, but for something for sale. Um, so my my thought for a more elevated offering would be the the press binding. But um, so these are the two options. And then he did he did, you know, bind both of these for us. The only thing that um, and it's formatted. The only thing they didn't do is you'll notice on the cover of some of these, it's not like centered yet, but he said they could I asked about that and he said that they could do that. I asked about it before they did the samples, but didn't happen. But but they will make sure that those are correct. Um and then the other thing to consider is uh like a matte finish like this, which both of these are done in a matte finish, so you can see what that looks like. Um or gloss finish. Um which again I think elevates it a little more. Uh and then I've got some pricing here which I'll go over as I pass all this around. >> Right. So we have two binding choices. One's a state. >> Those were the two like recommended. Yeah. Um, so yeah, those are >> what was the name of this other type of binding? >> Uh, perfect binding is the like press binding and then saddle bound is the stable. Um, so you can see the two bindings and you can see the two cover types. Although these are both in map, but of the other samples they gave us, you can see both. So, um, in terms of cost per book, he gave me pricing for 50 books and for 100, I think 50 is plenty to start. Um, so it's $412 for the staple bound and it's $642 for the perfect bound. Um, whether it's a matte finish or a gloss finish doesn't change that pricing. Uh, the printing is all the same pricing. It's really just the binding that is the difference. Um, and he did give us um a discount which is nice. So that that pricing includes the discount that >> he was able to offer. Um, total If we were to do the like perfect bound, uh, would be $320ish. 321. >> That's for 50. >> That's for 50 of the per perfect bound. The press finding. >> Who did you take this to? >> Uh, Minute Man Press. That's the city's printing vendor for this kind of thing. Um, excuse me. Um, so you know, I think we were had a different vision of what this might look like to sell it for 15. I think something more like if if it's 642 a book. Um, maybe something more like $12 or so, $10 to $12 I think would be appropriate for something like this. Um, but that's that's my thought. So, I guess see what I'm I'm pretty adamantly opposed to the staple binding personally. I just think it's not >> that's not a an item for sale in in my >> in my opinion. But, um >> have a lot of experience with branded merchandising. So yeah, maybe for less, but I think, you know, if we're putting the effort into this, we should elevate it as much as is appropriate for what the options are and what it is. So >> the covers, the material for the cover. >> Yeah, I would I would go for the like gloss pressbound cover. But >> is that like >> up to that would be like the black one. Yeah. >> Okay. So, what would the difference be between the two as far as just visual? >> Um, just >> just a little more shiny and >> Yeah, just it's really just like the material and the feel of it. It would be >> You think there will feel like a cover rather than just another page of the book? >> Yeah. And something that like >> was done by a printer and that we couldn't have just done >> it. Yeah. >> And so, is that additional cost? No, the gloss cover versus the matte cover is no change in cost. So, >> yeah. >> Oh, so we could do this one with the gloss cover >> and it's the same price. >> The binding is the only thing that changes. >> Yeah. Kind of a nobrainer, I think. So, >> yeah. >> Yeah. I know we've talked about the stable bonding in the past, which I think is appropriate and adequate, but after seeing this binding and also seeing just stuff in house, magazines, other books that have this type of bonding, it's really far >> superior. I think you said >> it feels like a more finished product. Yeah. >> The other looks like a yearbook that a club is hand created. So, they didn't I know this was a specific um request for printing, but they didn't print it the way you with the instructions. >> Oh, they did. Okay. I did send them I literally forwarded them your email. So, >> yeah. Well, they didn't. So, >> okay. >> So, there's something that we would need to make sure that we're talking with them more about before they would actually make a run of stuff. >> Okay. I'll go back over it. I just picked these up last night on the way home, so I didn't have a chance to go through it. >> Yeah. >> Make sure it was >> had those specifics, but >> as far as costing, obviously we need to cover our cost >> in terms of our >> selling price. Obviously, that would basically cover our cost. >> Well, we would hope to make >> Oh, I don't anticipate being a a big fundraiser. >> No, but I'm not sure. I think if we're paying 642 a book, I think I mean ideally you want to, you know, do about 50%. So I think 10 $10 to $12 would be appropriate. I don't think more than $12 or something like that. But if you charge, you have to sell 26 bucks to make your money back. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. About half. Mhm. >> So, I guess my reaction that maybe $10 might be a more appropriate price in order to sell hopefully a few more books than let's say $12. >> Yeah, I think 10 is fine. >> And it's a nice >> somebody has cash maybe a little easier, you know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I think 10 is is fine for this. Yeah, this is >> I'm glad he was able to print both samples. >> See that? as long as there's some tweaking done to the >> format. >> So, we need to sit down, I guess, among ourselves and look at each page with the formatting sizes and things and then meet with him with specific direction on >> Well, we provided I don't think so cuz we provided that instruction. They just didn't >> I'm just they just didn't follow. Okay. Um, so I'm just gonna ask him I I will send the specifics again >> and see if you know >> maybe we can get one more sample before we move forward. >> But but this is you know like this is what we want to do but these are the things that were meant to see one more. Yeah. And I think, you know, and you could see the false maybe. >> Uh maybe maybe I don't Yeah, I don't know if we need to, but um and then I think if everybody's comfortable with it, I can just go or if you want to come as well, Jeff, and just double check those details before they move forward with another with a full run. >> I think that's a good idea. I I would like to be part of that, too, cuz I have a hand in that. Cool. >> Yeah. I'm glad that it all came within the price point that we originally looking at. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I think that's everything for that for now. Okay. >> And thank you for >> coordinating this with with the printer. >> Yeah. >> What is their turnaround time for printing? just if you happen to >> for 50 books, I don't know. They did this pretty quickly, but um I think it just depends on their their workload. Um we could probably have some art walk if that's what we're after. >> I think that would be the plan. Yeah, >> we can make that the goal. That would be >> Yeah, I think that's doable. >> I do. Okay. Okay. All right. Then we'll wait to hear from you as far as when you'll get in touch with them and then we'll get we'll have a quick >> Yeah, I mean I have a note to follow up with them today and then >> see if they can do one more. >> Okay. >> Sample. >> All right. But I think that um so are we in agreement? We like the perfect perfect binding, right? That that tested. >> Okay. So I think are we all in agreement that we like the pressed the perfect blind however the ter tech terminology is whatever the technical term is the perfect binding and the >> gloss cover >> you want a glossy cover it's still black and white obviously >> um >> one thing he said is that just the outside like this and this are blocks the inside of this cover is not as an FYI but >> okay >> that matters that's fine And I think it gives it that elevation it needs. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, we're all in agreement with those specific things. Okay. Great. >> All right. Then, um let's see. We'll go ahead and move on to the event committee updates. And so, the first one is ArtWalk. And um I think we are pretty well set for art actually. Um, Britney did go ahead and get the the final email out to the artists on August 6th and so now they have the details of when they're supposed to show up and where and um just the things they need to know. So that's all good. We did have one artist um um who had to bow out um but that's okay. And then we had a second artist who hadn't hadn't reached out to Britney until recently, but has been an artist with us for prior years. And so we've added that one. Um, and then another one just recently had to back out. Um, but that's okay, too. Um, we still have really good balance and um, of mediums throughout the garden and throughout the house. and the openings provide just a little bit more um room to move uh especially here in the house on the main floor and then also out in the garden. And I'm thinking that we'll probably be including uh the uh CSU extension in in the garden just as a way of sharing and showing things that are going to be happening with the garden or proposed projects for the garden. It's art in itself. So, um, we're really pretty well set for artists. So, at this point, unless you find an artist that that is like absolutely fabulous and we must have that artist here, we're we're good. Um, but if if you've got somebody in mind, please reach out. Don't don't promise anything um to anyone, but um reach out to Cindy and myself and Britney just to share with us who it is, what their medium is, and um their contact information, and then we can go ahead and consider including them. So, but at this point, otherwise, we're we're we're really well set. Um I think, um board members need to plan to be at the house for the event. Um, the event is from 4:00 to 8:00 p.m. and I would just ask that you be here at 3:45. I will be here early. >> Uh, coming at three. >> Yeah, I will be here early. I'll be here for that. It that's that's going to go smoothly. I think Cindy will probably be here all set. We don't need all the board members here that extended amount of time. It will work just fine. >> I mean, one or two people maybe not, but you know, artists are going to be setting up here at 3. We're going to be setting up over there at 3. So, we need at least a couple people here and somebody over there. So, if you want to give a couple people time to come in late, but we need >> come early. >> We're like last year we did one board member and one staff member over at over on Main Street at the booth and then >> um I mean the more people that are here to get artists to their locations and and get people checked in the better. But >> so you'd like us all here at three? Well, I will leave that up to the committee if you want to give people some people the leeway, but >> I know how long a day it is, so I think I'm going to leave that kind of to each each board member's schedule. If you're here at 3:00, >> if you're here and and really, you don't need to be here earlier than 3. Three is is fine. I will be here early enough to help >> is when artists start arriving and they also tend to arrive early even though we've said we've asked them not to do that but they've done that pretty much every year. So >> yeah. >> Um >> and how late would you say we need to stay? >> Well, the event goes till 8 and then typically it's just like board members help with a few minutes of clean up and then Eric and I will is it Eric or Betsy? Anyway, whoever's working at will finish. most of that. But so it's usually, you know, a little after 8, 8:15 maybe. Um, but again, if you if you need to leave early, if you need to come late, that's fine. But we just need to make sure we have somebody designated to help whatever whoever the staff member is with the booth. >> Well, that may it may depend on the number of board members we have. We may not have enough people to have a board member over on Main Street. So, just tell that as soon as possible. So that we have an extra staff person because we need one staff person here and one staff person over there. >> So I was just going based on what was in the sheet and what we did last year. >> You're not selling anything on Main Street, right? >> Or you did the exact same thing you did last year. >> I think last year they didn't sell much >> or did they sell it mostly over there and not here? No, >> we didn't vice versa. Okay. >> Was it rainy last year? >> It was rainy. Yeah. I mean, people came out, but they didn't. >> Not a lot of people came by the Kalahan one because >> we didn't >> we didn't have a whole stand of like artwork or crowd like tangible items. They really had to come over and and then mostly what we were doing is just directing them to the house. It was like a point place to be like, "Hey, go see the house. There's more going on." It's straight up the street. So, like it was super helpful. But >> yeah, we sold one postcard. >> So, that's why I see it. That's really it's fine to stop it with just one staff member and then >> there the tent at least. So >> there needs to be two people over there. I mean somebody can't sit there for 4 hours and not use the bathroom potentially. So >> or at least send somebody over for and somebody has to help us set up and clean up. >> Well, are all the board members planning on being at the event? I mean, how many do you need stationed in the house? Do you know what I mean? >> Yeah. I mean, well, everybody, it's all hands on deck. >> It it Well, normally, yes. But right now, what we've got is one board member at the the front gate, and that is if we go ahead and close off the south gate. So, the west gate would be the only one that we can do. >> Um, so there's one board member there, there's a board member at the patron's table, there's a board member upstairs, uh, there's a board member um, on this floor, and there's a board member in the auto house. and the garden kind of floating. So, we're kind of capped. >> That's five out of six. Somebody >> and actually there's going to be two people in the main level of the house. One would be kind of center um in the music room and the other would be at the front door. And so, and among us, we're going to be rotating our spaces here in at on the property within the house and out in the garden. So that nobody's stuck in any one thing all day long. We're running pretty thin. So >> well that's five people at the house and then one more. >> She added one more to the house. >> Yeah. So the question would you like me to reach out to former board members again to be in the house just to be present in the house and keep an eye on >> that would help and see if we have anyone who's interested in coming and if they're able to be here what amount of time they're able to that that will be helpful. Okay, I'll reach out and there's at least four or five I can reach out to. >> No, they don't. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And I guess it'll depend on that, but right now, unless we have additional former board members, we just can't be out on Main Street. So, we're we're we're stretching ourselves too thin that way. >> How many of us were there last year? >> Two. was here was here >> cuz we were even thinner last year, weren't we? >> Well, no, we had we you had two staff assigned because it was >> Yeah. >> Betsy >> Betsy was selling stuff up front >> and then >> so that was you were down this year. >> I was on Main Street >> pretty much the whole time. >> You were over there. >> Yeah. >> I think I mean we >> cuz we swapped out a board member with >> We took some turns. Yeah. because it is you wanted we wanted the board members to see the house especially for you guys who are new to see what our walk so you didn't just get the perspective of Main Street and it was cold and rainy so >> but last year was the first year we did that with >> yeah so the thought that's coming to my mind is if we're thin on board members maybe we don't do it >> I don't know >> if the staff can't sit there I mean and like you said they're not really coming and spending a whole lot of people are not really spending a whole lot of time at the table and you're actually just more of a point person to say, "Hey, go around to the house." And making them aware that there is a place to go to to see the Callahan House and then whatever other marketing materials you're sharing about the Callahan House during art walk. That's that's a good thing for a staff member to hold the hold the fork down for that. It seems a simple enough kind of thing. and it and they don't have to be chained to the table the whole day, but it's just more of a if if we're going to have that presence on Main Street at this point, it just needs to be one staff member and the board members need need to be on site. >> Well, then that's fine, but we still need somebody to help them set up and clean up and maybe give them a break. >> Well, last year we did that do that. I'm going to be here at 3:00. So, I'll help set up, come back over here, and then maybe go over there halfway and relieve you for a little bit if you needed. >> Yeah, I think it's whatever. Whoever that's your Erica, but anyhow, I was here at the house point. My son has soccer games and I don't know what time they are quite yet. So, >> maybe not one of us isn't there the whole time, but at least help out in case. I think we did two hour shifts for the person on Main Street last year >> cuz that's the staff person being the >> Yeah. Or I can just I can switch them halfway. >> Um but we'll just need help with setup. I think I think we need to have one staff person here, >> you know, from 3 to 9 or whatever. But >> So, >> do you have the canopy here and it needs to be carried to Main Street? No, it's over at um >> It will be here though. Like I brought it here last year and then we used a wagon to to haul it down to Main Street. >> Okay. >> Yeah, we did this like zigzaggy path through the back. >> Set it up and uh the wagon I think stays over there. >> Yeah. >> Okay. I'm going to be here at 2:45. I'll help set that up and then come come back over here. >> Well, also what time will they let people set up on Main Street? That's another It's 3:00 also. >> So again, I don't think you need to be here any sooner than 3. It takes >> 5 minutes to put the D up. And the table did not. >> Do we take >> We did it in the pouring rain last year. We could do it a nice folding table. >> Do we take tables down there ourselves? >> Yeah. >> Yeah, I think it all but it was a little table that again fit in the wagon. Everything fit in the wagon, >> right? How about those banners we have? >> That also fit in the wagon. >> We have those down there. We didn't get it up because it was the >> didn't have the they didn't give us the stand for it, but I have it now. Like it didn't come with the shet. We could >> So that's why it didn't work. >> Um Okay. Are we are we questioning wanting to have the booth at all or we're good to have the booth? >> Do you have opinion how effective it was? >> Again, I think it helped because it it pointed people to the house. So, I do think that it it's a even as a wayfinding point, I don't know if they're putting you in the same space. >> Yeah. I don't know if we know >> cuz that was it's helpful if you're like within this line of sight and not like at either end of the boo, you know, the the main street. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I mean, I think >> people just like to get out and go to those things regardless of they're there to buy something or just to enjoy being out in downtown, especially people coming out last year in the weather. So, um, I do I did think it was really helpful to point people towards the house who have never heard of it or seen it. And we said there's music and and things to buy here. So, I felt like it was helpful just to point people. >> We already paid for it this year, so >> we should probably use it and we could >> we could always revisit. >> We'll make it work. I think you I think we'll make it work. Do we need an additional house staff besides myself and one other then? >> If that's what makes you feel comfortable, maybe plan for that. I don't know that we can guarantee it. >> I had two people and then we didn't we as to call one off for cost of the putting this on. >> Mhm. >> That was what we talked about earlier in the year. So, um I think we if we have one staff over here and one staff over there and and we can have set up and clean up help and five to six board members and maybe some volunteers, I think we're okay. >> Yep. Okay. >> And I can switch with that person halfway. Um, okay. Uh, the other piece about that, so in the past, for I don't know, however many years, at least as long as I've been here, we paid the $300 like sponsorship fee to also be included to for the booth for the the sponsorship also includes us in the marketing for the event. And um and that always included being listed on the map so that people would see like that this location is also, you know, kind of a part of the event. Um so I did that this year, same as we've done every year. And then got an email back from Firehouse that said that if we want to be included on the map that we need to pay $200 more. >> Oh, what? So apparently this is apparently this is how it was supposed to be for the last several years and there was like some oversight >> or lack there. >> Yeah. Um so I don't know that we want to pay $200 more to be included on the map. I am kind of the mind that maybe we see how it goes and if it seems like it really affects our attendance then we can do the bigger sponsorship next year. But that's this event is already, you know, this is not a fundraising event. So >> yeah, like we already paid 300 >> and that was for the table. >> That's for and there is some marketing involved with that I think on their socials, but it doesn't have us and it has us listed as a sponsor, you know, digitally, but like it doesn't get us on the >> their map of the event, which we've always been listed on in the past for the same price. >> Um, so that's a bummer. Yeah. So, this map is something that is handed to >> it's Yeah, there's a digital version I think ahead of time and then also it's, you know, available at the event. Um, so it showed that like here's like sort of an offshoot location that you can come see more artwork and Callahan House is a sponsor of the event, but now for the 300 it's just I think being listed in socials as a sponsor and the booth. So, I wonder if the map will be the same map that they've always used that our location is actually on that map, which is not >> But they're not going to >> That's a good question. I I don't know. I I sort of feel like we should in in the past, we usually get about 400 people to come to this to Callahan House. I sort of feel like we should keep it how it is this year and see how it goes. And maybe next year we aren't a sponsor at all. I don't know. I mean, that's $300 then that we're not spending on this event when it's already not a fundraiser >> years ago. Years ago, we did not pay the sponsorship >> at all. >> We just went ahead and hosted us at the house. >> One year we put >> went out there. Yeah. >> Along the sidewalk leading to California. >> Yes. Lead a little trail. >> Yeah. >> We did flowers in the flower pots one year. >> Yeah. And so >> that is a solution for a future if they're going to continue to that's >> a little that's unreasonable. It's unreasonable the cost. >> Yeah. >> Especially when this is an electronic thing and give me a break really. >> So I think at this point >> like we already paid the 300 like that's already done. I think we should go with what we have. See if it affects our attendance and then maybe and if it doesn't then maybe we don't need to do the booth or the sponsorship in future years especially if the booth was more it's good to draw people over here. And >> well I think it would be a good tell all also if you have the booth but we're not on the map and then if you went the next year to neither have the booth or the map then you're really seeing >> what is effective. Yeah. >> Yeah. And we've got our own blasts that we can send out about. >> Yeah, we'll still do our marketing that we normally do that we did for club affair, you know, >> and people have to park all over, too. They're not parking on Main Street for this. So, there's a chance you get a lot of people that are in that lot that see your traffic. >> Yeah. >> So, >> on the other hand, I think it's important to be identified on a map that we're here as far as a location along with others. And I think we also have maybe some sort of a responsibility to our artists >> to make sure that people >> that we do our best ability to let the general public know that yes, we are here. Yes, they are here. >> I agree. But the artists aren't paying anything to be part of this, >> right? >> Um we are going to do our best marketing just like we would normally, but to be on the map, we have to pay an extra $200. >> I think you'd have to charge your vendors that to make that fee. That's not going to be on the map already signed up. >> Not this year. No, no, no. But if next year you were like, we need the map. >> We need to charge our artists. >> We had talked about a table or whatever. >> Yeah. Like at the end of this year because we always put out a survey like asking the question, would you be willing to pay small table fee next year? >> Yeah. >> So >> why don't we keep it how it is this year and see if it affects our attendance negatively and and then revisit the whole sponsorship thing in general next year. >> That's my thought. Okay. I think we do our due diligence to do the best we can to let people know that we are here. >> Of course, we'll market it in all the avenues available to us >> in each of markets >> just by verbally telling people about >> in our social >> and we've asked artists themselves in the letter to share the event information with all of their networks. So, >> which I'm sure they want to do. Yes, we're doing everything we can and in this at this point while people pay a fee to be on Main Street, they don't pay here. >> But that was something that we've kind of held traditionally to for the for the sake of this is community outreach. This is support for local artists. This is something that the Callahan House does. We're not charging them. They they actually are are are they're receiving a bit of a of a gift to be part of the Callahan House Art Walk, you know, day. So, I don't know. It's >> But yeah, no, I I think we're not spending that extra 200 to be put on them now. I don't think that's necessary. >> Agree. >> That's fine. So, what will we have at the the tent down there that would interest people to stop by as they're strolling and also to interest them in coming up here? >> Yeah, I think our regular marketing materials, patrons, weddings, clubs, private rentals, brochures for historic information. Um, and just sending people over if we don't want to bring any of our work over there, which is a bummer, but if we didn't sell any of it, then why do that? this old warrior of the house. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> We also I mean so Unity is coming up at the end of the month and it's going to be the same type of thing in terms of taking that that that exact information that I just mentioned over to an event on Main Street and see what kind of interaction we have. We could reevaluate after that. I just we already paid for a booth this year. I kind of want to We were always paying for it in the past though before last year and didn't realize that like we had it. So >> isn't really any different. Like we're still paying for the marketing, you know, >> as a sponsor. But anyway, we could see how Unity goes and evaluate from there in terms of if we want to do booth for our walk, but >> feels like we should. >> And did you need board members to participate at at that booth in Unity or is it just staff? >> We don't. We've got staff set up for that right now. I didn't mean to derail the conversation, but I just wanted to say that might be an opportunity to evaluate how that exact setup goes and what kind of involvement we get. So, >> and you'll be able to check to see where we are located down here >> for ArtWalk. Yeah, I don't think they sent that out yet, but it should be coming out soon. >> I have a question and it's not I just don't remember. Are we the only off main site? >> As far as I know, there were some like vendors on the off shoots. I don't know if there's like outside of the firehouse that's also >> not right on assuming they're open. their show. Um, >> well, would maybe would it be worth asking them, can you go ahead and include us, you know, at no cost this year as as a professional courtesy given the fact that we're not on the main street. >> I'm not comfortable doing that. They already >> I think if they wanted to offer that, they would have already offered it. They let us know what the situation was and and we're apologetic and apparently like I said it was an oversight for the last couple of years. >> It sounds like it wasn't just it sounds like it wasn't just us. It sounds maybe I don't know. It sound like they were supposed to be having it set up to I don't know but um I think if they wanted to offer that they would have offered that. So >> yeah, cuz I think they only had the street blocked off to like Kaufman. >> Yeah. >> You know, the side streets. >> You know, another >> um and then after this whomever committee or whomever would we just need to finalize the spot for John? >> Yeah. Um, and the other thing I wanted to ask just real quick is uh I don't know how how many of these are getting like because I'm going to take some to unity and we also for art walk. How many of these are really getting handed out during an event like that? Do you have since you ran the patrons table for club affair? Do you have a grasp on that? Oh, I think it was only literally like a handful of people who took those um the >> Okay, so I think we're good. A little bit like artwork. We're good. >> That's all we have. This is all we have. >> So good. >> Okay. >> That's all for artwork then that I've got. >> Okay. Right. Um, so we'll learn more about we'll we'll stay with just the one staff member and but we'll learn more about any potential additional helpers um former board members if we if we've got some additional help for the for the day. >> Back to you on that. Um, so that's that's the scoop about our walk. Um, and the fall event is the other committee update. We're going to set our next committee in conjunction with the patrons um, Callahan committee meeting. So that's that. So at this point, we can move forward into setting committee meetings. I would suggest I did ask Cindy when she would be available. so that we could make sure we're scheduling to include her. Um I think >> I also wanted to just mention um if there's any committees that Angela you want to be a part of just let us know what you're interested in if we need to look different times for those. >> Yeah. >> So so as early as Thursday the 20th. So that'd be next Thursday from 9 to noon. Um or uh Friday the 21st um 10 to noon. Not particularly good for me, but um >> which I'm just going to do is put out some date options and then I think we do need to talk about >> um what scrapbook is going to be one of them. um patrons and fall tea is going to be another one. So um I think it's important that we make sure that everyone's available for patrons of fall tea because it does apply to everyone. >> Um >> I'm out all like from Wednesday on >> till Tuesday of next week. >> Okay. >> Or I mean of the 24th. >> So >> August 20th through the 24th I'm out. >> Okay. So the next available date is August 27th 10 to noon. Is that an okay day for >> people that and the reason I'm saying this is because it's when I know Cindy said I can be available. So >> I just want to make sure that we're including anybody that wants to be involved in committ. >> Yeah. So, is Thursday the 27th um 10 to noon? Okay. And I know that Angela, you're working and so that definitely >> Yeah, I have >> makes it more challenging. Um >> big meeting that day. >> I have not talked about evening communication. >> Yeah, she may not have included availability that we did. >> We did not talk about that. So, um, >> are there any that Cindy is chairing or >> she co-chairs artwalk with me? >> Okay. So, artwalk maybe we schedule around that and then the others maybe we schedule with the group here. >> Yeah. I'm anticipating we're not going to need a committee meeting for ArtW Walk. We're we're So, we're good. >> We're complete. We're >> Yeah. Oh, I'm the only Well, we after we figure out John, but the only other thing is I'll need a final map and then I can make a digital, >> right? >> But so >> okay, >> but um >> are we on and scrapbook? Are those the ones we're looking at? >> I'm not available from August 19th through September 3rd. >> August 19th through September 3rd. Okay. >> Okay. I think it sounds like Angela, you're interested in being part of the scrapbook committee. >> Um, yes, I can help. Number of pages for sure. >> Okay. So, I think we need to set the next committee meeting for that at a time when >> everybody who's interested in working on the labeling project can do it. >> So, after September 3rd, it sounds like. >> So, or before before the 19th. >> Within the next week. >> I see. Within the next couple days. Yeah. Well, then Julie, what are some options that there's other people that are >> familiar with the labeling as well, though? >> That >> what are some options? >> I'm for the scrapbook. I'm pretty much available up till the 18th, which is next Tuesday. >> And I'd be happy to meet I mean, in, you know, evening hours or something if that'd be helpful. So >> at least at least as a guide to get Angela >> started and understand what we're doing. >> Yeah. >> Or also could be during the day too. >> So what kind evening hours are are okay for you? >> Um I generally get off work at 5. >> Yeah. >> So >> but so then you're Okay. So what generally what time are you available to like be at the house? Um that's after 5. We can do it if there's clubs going on, but otherwise we might have to think of some other locations. >> So 5:30 clubs are meeting. >> See, let me see if there's a >> cuz my PEO is on the 18th here. >> Yeah. Um >> so that's a club, but I'm not available. So, >> right. The only Yeah, you could use the auto house or the upstairs, I think, with that. I know PO needs >> we don't need upstairs >> space, but um you just wouldn't have much Betsy is also like part of the meeting. So, yeah, >> you have to be quiet and and self-sufficient. But yeah, I'm looking at my work schedule time. >> I'm actually available to meet a little bit earlier on the 18th. I don't have any afternoon meetings, so I could meet at 4. >> I mean, that's that's fine for me. >> 4 on the 18th. >> Yeah. >> Is that okay? I mean, we can still do like a 5:30 or something if >> uh you don't if you can't leave work early. >> Oh, that's fine. Okay. So, 4:00. >> Yeah. On the 18. And that be here in the house or >> Yeah. >> How late till can we stay in the house? Typically, >> uh, if you're upstairs, you're good till PO ends at 9:00. >> Yeah. 8:15. >> 8:15. Okay. A few hours. >> So, that's okay. >> So, like 8:30 by >> So, I could participate like >> for like an hour in the afternoon if you did like >> Okay. And then >> at 4 to 5, I got to go home, feed my family, and then come back. Plus, I have to be back here at 6. >> You guys want to do 4 till whenever. And Julie might have to go at some point, but >> So, Jeff, 4 till when? >> I mean, I can be here 4 to 8, 4 to 9. >> 4 to 8. >> I think 8 8:30. Yeah, 8. >> Let's say 8. >> I just need basic construction and then I can take the scrapbooks home. Yeah, I think this is >> it's more of an informative. >> But if you want to sit upstairs by yourself and not go for it. >> Yeah, I think go through some labeling together and also like you know thoughts about what pages need to be like archivalally um sleeved and and kind of go through those type of things. Um, and then I don't know if you guys want to work on any alt text or if that's also going to be individual, but >> would it be available by then? >> Uh, I think it could be. Yeah. >> Right. >> Yeah. Unless you want to >> focus on the labeling for this. I I mean, what what >> So, it sounds like a two-hour meeting might be focusing on. It will give you the time to do some instruction and go through some examples, do some archival >> and then send people on their way. >> Okay. >> So, like 4 to 6. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> All right, that works. >> All right. 18. And we we want to try to have the um alt text ready by then. >> Yeah. >> If you do, at least we get Would you be able to Would you be available to explain it? >> Uh yeah, I can meet you for >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So then um the other committee meeting we do need to set is it's patrons and fault tea wrapped in one. We do need a twohour period of time. Um and Britney, we need it to be wrapped around a time that you're available because it's going to include um information that we're going to need to talk with you about with respect to caterer. And >> are we still waiting on this committee to make a final decision for what type of event? >> Yeah. And that's going to be depending well we're leaning more toward a reception just because we don't want to um exclude certain special guests. Okay. >> To be invited, >> but we should wait till the committee. >> We need to wait until just want to make sure I'm not and that goes with um the whole we're doing one last reach out to um individuals to include them as patrons. Oh, which by the way, can you include that letter in the email to the Kron the Callahan House email list? Can you send that letter and and form in since it's in the email, it could be a PDF attachment, right? >> Again, the PDF has to live somewhere online. Um, but are you just asking that you want like patrons information sent out to the Callahan email? >> Basically, basically the same um the the letter and the form if we can send that out to the Callahan House email list too. we can send it out in the format in which we can >> but yes I can get that information out to the county. Okay, great. All right. So, um, when are good options that you're available that can work for everyone in the leaning more toward you? >> Well, that's I would say probably, >> you know, I would say it's likely we'll look at the I know. >> Yeah. Uh I think we're going to need to look at the week the first week of of September. So after the third though. So actually just keeping in mind that like catering is going to be booked up. So just >> if we're waiting till then to to you know secure catering in the event is the first week of October. >> I'm just okay putting it out there. >> It's not going to be the first week of October. It's going to be more toward the end of October. actually were leaning that way because of all of the activities that were all signed up to do, including October 8th video release and October 23rd video release and um and then other conflicting um activities and events that are going on. So, we're we're going to lean more toward the end of October, >> okay, >> as a selection of date. And again, it's reception style, so probably a little easier to handle that, right? I just September and October are busy months for catering it just in general. So, >> okay, >> I'm just putting that out there. But >> so, let's look at October 4th. >> No, that was created at the beginning of the year. Those were uh potential dates or as we knew them to be or as we planned or thought that they would be at the time. Um, but we are changing that. So, >> So, what date do you have now for the fall reception? I think actually what we're looking more toward and I yeah I think we're looking more toward the October it's going to be a Thursday so October 29th um so that that makes it so that we're not in conflict with other activities and we're not overloading ourselves in the month of October especially since we've already got 8th and 23rd. Um, so but that's what we're leaning toward. We can't really make that public acknowledge although we just technically have. Um, but it is invitation only. But anyway, um, so October 29th is booked >> for who? For an art class. >> Huh? I'm sorry. >> For an art class. It's already in the brochure. So, >> we could look at early November. >> Anyway, we can talk about that, but >> yeah. Okay, we're going to need to So, let's look at again back to when are when can we meet? When you're available and when Britney, you're available. um say in the next in Japanese >> the first week of September. >> So it would be this week of September. >> So um meet for what are we >> it is a it's a two-hour committee meeting. It's to cover the patrons of the Callahan House and the fall um event. >> Okay. So that's >> I'm pretty open the week of the 7th of September. >> Right. Okay. >> What time is the earliest you could be here? >> Uh Labor Day. Um so Tuesday the 8th. >> Okay. So Tuesday not working. >> No can do. >> Okay. How is Wednesday? >> Answer. board meeting. >> Yeah. >> Could we do after the board meeting for a little >> I know you have time though. >> We can't pinch this. We We already got pinched time. >> Well, I'm just talking about >> It doesn't have to be pinched because we can go upstairs, but I'm just talking about then like Angela and I >> for a little bit, but maybe you can't extend your It's okay if not. What about the week prior? It seems like this is important that we need to get something from the calendar for you back on the third. Is that what you said? >> Yes, I'll be available on the 4th. >> So, Friday the 4th. >> I'm not available that day. >> No, >> I am. If others are I I uh >> I'm available. >> I can open the house or find another place in the city for you to meet or something like that. >> Uh well, on September 4th, but it is going to need your presence. Oh, sorry. >> The whole point of that is >> um or I mean if there's a time whatever works or if we can have a conversation before then so I can have some idea and impart some knowledge or whatever but um yeah can't do the fourth >> the weekend. >> All right. I know it's the weekend but can you sorry I'm gone that weekend. So I mean >> do do I have to be there? >> I mean >> we might have to settle for not every meeting with >> I need to be I'm fine. >> That's fine. But we might have to >> Okay. >> Well, is your concern that we just need to book a caterer? >> If we're if we're looking towards maybe more like early November at this point, I think we're we're doing better. just September and October are very specifically busy for catering because of weddings. But um the 29th isn't available. I don't know if you want to look further like first week of November and we probably there's going to be more availability at that point. But um so if we're looking at November 5th, is that an option? >> Potentially. We've got a tea that day until 4:00. So potentially depending on staffing and when we want to set up for an event and because they like depending on when the event is catering is going to need two hours of setup time. Probably at least an hour, probably two hours. So we couldn't really start setting up until fine, which means the event's at 7:00. I'm assuming you're wanting to do more of like a happy hour. >> We're not going to call it a happy hour. >> Fine, happy hour typeing. um evening timing 5 7 kind of window of time. So, I think that day would be tough, but I think there's a lot to get through here still and we can talk about timing exactly the meeting, but >> I think at this point I'm going to reach out email so that we >> like a doodle poll out >> because this is pick the best that I >> Okay. All right. We'll move on to video release. So, I'm going to ask that we be really um quick with our our info because it's now almost 10 after 11. Um so, what kind of update do you have right now? >> Uh no different info other than we just need people for the panel. So, that was something that we talked about last month and you guys kind of mold that over for a bit. But, um for the museum panel specifically, I was thinking it probably would be just board members for that. Um, for the tend panel, um, I would be involved and we're also trying to get some like community partners that we've worked with, maybe the folks from the clothing swap or some other just people that we've partnered with. Um, but I'd like to have a board member or two involved in that as well. So that's that's the main thing that I need right now is people to volunteer to be part of the panels after the after the videos are shown and then like a short kind of discussion sharing information Q&A type panel not more than half an hour for each event. >> Okay. So, um, I'll tell you what. Can you send an email out to everyone and just say if you're interested in in doing one or the other or both, please respond. And then that way we'll all be on that same shared email. We'll know um, okay, so and so is going to do that. Yeah, I'll do this. Maybe we can work together that way. >> Cool. Okay. >> Would we be interested in having people that are in the video maybe be on the panel? >> Yeah. I think it's on my list for tomorrow. I was going to ask Marina and Karen Reed. >> Um maybe Connie. >> Yeah. Anybody that was in it. Sure. >> Yeah. >> I would volunteer al as well. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Either or both. >> Got candy. >> All right. >> Okay. I did see that in the um long museum. >> Mhm. >> Book by the way. >> Cool. So >> it's in the recation brochure also. >> Well, we're we're he we're more heavily marketing the tend one in our stuff and the museum's more heavily marketing the other one. >> The 10 releases in the recreation brochure >> and we're we're spending something on on we're spend spending something on that marketing are we >> spending something? >> Oh, is it a cost to us? >> Not the marketing for for the tend. >> They are not charging us like a fee to use their space. Um the is going to charge us a cleaning fee and then we're going to provide the food and beverage. So that will be our cost and some staffing cost. But we are asking for it's a it's a free event with a $10 adjusted donation. So we're hoping to maybe at least have a little bit of cost recovery on that event. >> And the donation goes to >> us. Okay. Not 10. >> No. >> Okay. >> They're they're doing us a a big Yeah. >> Okay. All right. Um so co affair candy would you like to share the >> well I'm sure you have the statistics >> I do so um I'll let you share that but first you know sometimes we don't actually hear anything about the results and the result of us wanting to do this is to get people to join these groups that we have invited to call affair. So, I had two emails um that I wanted to share with you. First of all, um Daughters of the American Republic. Um I belong to that group. And so, here was an email that went back and forth between the D. I'd like to thank Joy Wel, Elizabeth Baltman, Susan Mcanon, and Maggie Jones. They pulled together to represent our D chapter at the club affair that was held at Callahan House. They had seven women hand in seven women hand in D interest forms. This is the first time we participated and I would say this was a great success all around. Thank you ladies for doing this. I'm looking forward to seeing new faces at our meetings and events and then um the next day they were already processing one of them. Got some of them processed in their group. The other one was from um uh uh Delta Capagama. I belong to that group too. And um the president was saying, "I wanted everyone to know we had a fun time at Callahan House. Um many thanks to Candy Shy for situating DKG in the shelter." Well, thank you for doing that. Um last time they were not in this in the shade and they were appreciative of that shade. >> They mean auto house was the shelter or just the shade. >> The shade the shade area. They didn't have a tent and the year before they were just sweltering. in this shade. Thanks also to Joan Martin, Cheryl Barnett, Laura Lewis, and Kathy Simon for sharing their time and support for several hours. We met some prospective members, one currently working in the district and another Delta Capagama Hawaii member who recently moved to the area. Others expressed interest and we'll have to follow up with them. Um, so they also had people that were interested right away that day. So those were just two that I knew of. So the reason and the purpose that we started out with years ago doing this is working. >> Yeah. >> Cool. Thank you. Um >> has a survey been prepared for the participants? >> Yeah, I was just going to say that we also put out a survey. Um so we got 10 responses. So about half people responded to it. Um four and a half stars overall for the event. Um yeah, people had great things to say. Um I one of the questions that I added this year was about recruitment specifically like that kind of feedback. Do you feel like it was valuable for you in you know connecting with the community, recruiting new members? And we had a lot of good feedback on that. People felt like it was it was valuable in making those connections. Um we did get two or three responses about um the entertainment that it was really cool but made it difficult for them to talk to people and and weren't sure how it contributed to the event. So that was some interesting feedback that I didn't expect that we can mull over for next year. Um but overall great great feedback. Um so that's good. Um we had 450 people total on site. About 370 of those were actual public. You know the other was the club participants and the performers. Um first hour was definitely heaviest with 175 15 the second hour and 40 people the third hour. So that's good info. 56 emails, which since I've been here, I think that's a record. Um, so that's great also. And then our total gross like or um sorry, net revenue for this event was $548 minus our cost. So good or that's that's after our cost. So total net revenue is $548. >> So cool. That's good. are. Um, and I'll just mention this quickly and we can maybe follow up on it next time, but the library reached out after our event. Um, oh, and we also were in the newspaper on Sunday, so it was a little from the Times call about the event, so that's good. >> Oh, yeah, that, too. We ended it up in the paper. >> Yeah, I got a copy of it for scrapbooks. But, um, the library reached out because they, I guess, have been interested in putting on an event like this for some time and they've been trying to figure out how to organize it and when. and they saw that we did club affairs. So, they are wondering if we want to potentially partner on a similar event in April. Um, or if we were to continue on doing our summer event and they did their spring event, if there's any knowledge that we could impart or if we thought that that would be competitive or overkill in any way. Um, so something to think about. I I also mentioned that we do our spring open house in April and that we get about 100 visitors to that. So, I didn't know if April was like a great time for us. Um, I don't know. I feel like we probably should continue on with what we're doing and see if they want to partner with us or but it's something to mle over and think about for for next time. I guess I also let them know that we we're planning this as like a bannual event. So, I don't know if anybody has any immediate thoughts on that, but um >> be opposed to it being an annual event. People were asking, "Oh, are you going to do this again next year?" >> Well, that's what we have to decide whether we want to do this every year. >> Um, I think moving our open house, moving it to the open house in July. I think that was a good move. >> I really do. >> Yeah. >> So, we're having an open house anyway. >> Yeah. >> So, something we need to talk about probably look at >> pros and cons for that. Mhm. >> So, um, anyway, we can revisit that next month, but they had reached out about that. So, I just wanted to share that with you. >> Okay, cool. >> We did have some people stop at the patrons um and well, the Callahan House Advisory Board table and so I've got 10 people who has signed up to help volunteer with projects, tasks or activities and one of which might be interested in serving on the board. And so yeah, um the the information that I'm learning though is that the their availability is is a bit limited and so it will kind of depend on, you know, whatever we're trying to do. Um it may apply to some of the individuals and not to others. Work schedules, they don't want they're not interested in weekends, that kind of stuff. So, but that's that's another positive thing that came out of Cool. >> So, that's outreach to the community to include them in volunteering with us. >> Yeah. And then, um, depending on, you know, if anybody follows up with you or not, um, I just want to make sure we're kind of within the city parameters for any like long-term volunteerism that we might do. So, yeah, >> before we communicate anything to anybody, just >> No. Yeah. >> Yeah. Reach out. >> Yeah. This is >> Yes, we will do Um, so does that cover the wrap-up for club affair? >> Yeah. >> Okay, great. >> All right. Um, board member binders process. I described this last month. Um, just the oneinch binders being the the 1 through 31 tabs as a reference binder and then the 2-in binder is the monthly board packets being January through December tabs. Um, and what what we need to maybe just touch base with about real quick is that sometimes some information is not available at the beginning of the year when we or when at the beginning of a service of of a new board member. Um, so we don't have that in the the 1-inch binder, the the reference binder. And so when we're requesting and needing that update, then it will be helpful to have and I understand the reason to to consolidate put them all on one page here, but it would be helpful to have um so for example the appropriation schedule just it alone printed on one page. And I know that this that's outside of packet stuff, but the purpose of the ask is yes, we're we're we're needing these things to be added to the reference binder. We need them full size because they have a tab that they belong in. Um whereas this we can't >> Well, the information and why this was requested wasn't provided to me. Okay. >> Um even when I asked. So if you need some for the binder, I'm happy to print things for you for the binder, but it was requested to be put into the packet. >> Yeah, because because it's an agenda item. Because since we have the board members binder process as an agenda item, I thought, okay, yeah, we'll we'll need to be able to show, for example, um the appropriation schedule. That's one thing that >> but I wasn't made aware that these were related specifically to that agenda item. So that's why they're >> how they are. But if you need them printed differently for packets, >> it will yes >> request any of that at any time and I can print them >> for that purpose. >> We'll do that. We'll do that then. So but that was the reason for um that um but because on here it just it's illegible. >> Well, again I wasn't made clear why it's needed or how it pertains to the agenda. So that's what you got. >> Okay. Anyway, so I think that we've addressed our board member binders process. Am I right? >> Yeah. The only thing I wondered outstanding was moving like how to proceed with that process for next year because it you know you added a piece to it and so if the the chair next year since you can't be with us is going to continue to do that or >> so we can >> we have time to revisit that later but that is >> it no longer needs >> that is agenda item >> well >> I think we're we're unless we >> I still need clarity on how we're going to move forward with this process. So we can revisit it next month since we're running out of time. >> We really don't have time. We don't have time to do this in a board meeting. So if we really need to hash through it needs to be done in a committee meeting. >> Okay. Then we can set a committee meeting next month. >> Okay. So this time it is 11:20 and we have new business and items from staff and um items from the board. Um, how are we doing on time? Would would it be acceptable to extend our time or are we running tight on time this morning? >> I am running tight on time. >> Okay. Sorry. >> That's okay. So, what I might suggest is at this point I'm going to say let's table our um let's table our new business both items um and until next month and we'll table um the item um from staff um manager report till next month. Uh, I think the one thing I was just going to ask you about because it falls in this month is the unity and community and I think that you've explained that you're going to have a table as you and one other staff member and I don't know what materials you plan to um to take. So I guess I might ask if you can just clarify what materials are you planning to have at the table for that. >> All the ones that I listed that we talked about having for art block. >> Okay. So um no patrons. Um >> yes, patrons was the first. >> You'll have patrons, wedding rentals, private rentals, >> clubs, >> board involvement, everything, community programs, everything that we do here will be at that table. >> And in in in additional just um community volunteers. So if if anyone's interested in in the community interested in volunteering that's one focus on board volunteerism for now but that other volunteer opportunities you know are are coming you know the city has a specific process about volunteers so we need to figure out it can't just be like a open-ended type thing but yes volunteerism in general more information TBD >> right but if someone comes to you and says oh and can I look into volunteering? Then you're going to gather information. Yeah. >> All right. >> So, um and then what I will suggest we do is just let's wrap up with um unless there's any other item from staff that's urgent that we need to talk about now. >> Um well, are there I just want to yes or no. Are there questions about the manager's report that we need to go through? Okay. >> Okay. Um, and then the other item that we did need to talk about and we can make a decision next month, but um I did I do need to bring it up now is uh we'd like to consider moving the board meeting time um starting in January to allow the recruitment starts for next year. It starts in October. Um, so I think we need to talk about moving the board meeting time at a time when more people can be involved to help hopefully get some more recruitment for 2027. Um, so we can make a decision on that next month, but I want to post that now and then it can be moved to new business. But um considering changing the meeting time for January to allow more people to be interested in serving on this board and then if in January that doesn't >> it's not necessary based on our current members, we can always move it back. But I think recruitment's coming up in October and even if we can put some information out there that the meeting time is flexible, I don't know that that really >> lands >> Yeah. lands with people. So I think we just need to consider moving it to a late afternoon evening time so that we can so that that information reflects for recruitment in October starting in January and then in January we can revisit whether or not that >> is appropriate. But I think that will help with getting more people involved >> for next year. >> Do we need to state a meeting time in the advertisement for >> it? Yeah. It's a meeting. >> Yeah. So, um, so something to mle over, but I think for next for September, we need to have a decision about when we want that to be so that it's available for October recruitment. >> Based on your club calendar, though, you already have a date in mind. >> I don't I wanted to I mean, it'll have to be around evening clubs, but there's not too many of those, but um, so think about that. if that means 4, 4:30, 5, 5:30, what days of the week people are available. Um, and again, we don't have to start that necessarily until January, but I just want that information to be out there so that when people are applying for the board for next year, they know >> what that could look like because >> yeah, >> it may help us hopefully get some some new people. >> We might actually be able to give that a test run. We'll talk about it next month, but we're going to be removing that November meeting date because of the conflict. So, so maybe we can um work at a uh evening board meeting for um the November. >> Sure. >> So, we'll keep that in mind and we'll readress it next month. Um so, the last bit is um an item from um board. So, I wanted to share with everyone that Angela and I attended the July 17th before business hours event for the Chamber of Commerce and uh Cindy, Jeff and I attended the July 23rd after business hours event. Um, I do think it would be helpful for board members and Britney uh to attend other events prior to September 15th to encourage attendees to read the new the e newswsletter that's coming out with our advertisement um about the patrons program. And um so you if you could check with Cat to see what's available, she she quickly set a couple or a few dates that were coming up at the last event. Um, but I didn't get to take note of that. So, if we can learn about what's coming up, that would be helpful. Um it's an easy just go meet people, say hello, ask them about what they do and share with you them that you're a volunteer and this is what you do and that um oh by the way check the e news e newswsletter that's coming out and uh from the chamber um on and if we can know when the publication date would be that would be helpful. So, um, and then just going forward, I think it's a good idea for Britney, I think it's to you or I don't know if it would be anyone else, but since since you're house manager, for purposes of of explaining, you know, to fellow businessmen and and women in in the community what Callahan House is, who we are, what we do, what's available. Um, it's a great extra way for a reach out to share the information about the house, how it's available to businesses, how it's available to individuals, just it's a good opportunity to network that way for marketing purposes. >> Yeah. I mean, we use the chamber for our marketing now and the city is part of that. So, we could share some information that way. >> Yeah. But going to those um events are it it it's really hard to get into too much detail um because everyone's just kind of buzzing about you know I think we kind of all felt that way. It was just like, well, so I think that the one anchor that I held on to was I would at the first one I was telling everyone, hey, come to club affair this Saturday. And so I but I was pointing them to something and giving them a little snippet of information and and like between now and and um September 15th, it would be a hey, check the e newsletter that's coming out on whenever the chamber's going to post our um ad in the newsletter. And it's just one little other way to connect with them in in a very short quick conversation because there's not a whole lot of time to get into too much detail. So um everything else in future agenda items stays on and at this point it's 11:28. I move we adjurnn. Is there a second? >> A second. >> Thank you. And are we all in favor? Yes, we are great.