Submind YouTube summaries
Thumbnail for BROKEN PLAY | NAVV GREENE FT. IMAN SHUMPERT & REGGIE BALL  | S04 | EP 52

BROKEN PLAY | NAVV GREENE FT. IMAN SHUMPERT & REGGIE BALL | S04 | EP 52

Watch on YouTube

Video summary

The video centers on a multifaceted debate within the basketball community, primarily addressing the controversy surrounding transgender athletes in women's leagues and the inherent physical advantages that might create safety risks for female players. The discussion also critiques media figures who trivialize these concerns through unprofessional behavior, such as throwing objects onto courts, labeling it hate speech. Beyond these societal issues, the conversation delves deeply into specific WNBA talent, praising the winning mentality of Angel Reese, the team impact of Caitlin Clark, and the dominant presence of Olivia Miles, while also highlighting legendary defenders like Maya Moore and undrafted international stars such as Sydney Taylor. This analysis of women's basketball is complemented by reflections on NBA icons, including Klay Thompson, Joel Embiid, and Amari Bailey, setting the stage for a broader exploration of player dynamics and legacy. Former NBA players Iman Shumpert and Navv Greene share personal anecdotes that illuminate their careers and evolving roles within the league. Shumpert reflects on his college days at Georgia Tech under Coach Paul Hewitt, recalling the coach's strict discipline regarding academics and conduct, as well as a pivotal moment where he felt personally responsible for a loss due to a concussion protocol issue, which fueled a breakthrough performance later in the season. He discusses the unique challenges of defending elite guards like Kevin Durant and James Harden, noting how Kyrie Irving's patience and dribbling allowed him to cross over Shumpert effectively. Greene adds his perspective on team chemistry, recounting the heartbreak of the 2015 Cleveland Cavaliers season where injuries to key players prevented a championship run despite their talent, and he contrasts the "hooper" mentality of Kevin Durant with LeBron James' initial reluctance to join the Cavs due to rivalries with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. The dialogue extends beyond the court to explore the shifting landscape of fan loyalty, the economic influence of star players on city branding, and the mental aspects of being a Black athlete in professional sports. Shumpert highlights how Jaylen Brown's departure from Cleveland altered team strategy and praises J.R. Smith for balancing street life with a Six Man of the Year season, emphasizing that one can maintain professionalism while navigating personal challenges. Greene expresses his deep emotional connection to Michael Jordan and the Chicago Bulls, even joking about preferring them to lose so LeBron James could have a clearer legacy, arguing that greatness builds upon previous generations like Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Both speakers also touch on the evolution of basketball skills in modern eras, comparing past legends to current players who unlock new abilities at a young age, while Shumpert shares a touching story about Michael Jordan disrupting a high school game to watch his son play, underscoring the respect legends command regardless of context. In addition to basketball analysis, the hosts discuss their transitions into acting and media entrepreneurship, with Shumpert noting the need to consciously adjust his Chicago accent for roles and praising Country Wayne's innovative content creation model that generates significant revenue without traditional studio contracts. Greene reflects on his childhood struggles in Chicago, including family dynamics where he had to "fake" discipline from his father, and shares stories of learning money management after throwing tantrums over shoes. The conversation also covers the unique status of reality TV audiences analyzing fights through a basketball lens rather than fearing legal repercussions, and addresses the scandal involving 49ers owner Jed York, questioning why personal failings of billionaires receive media attention while affecting their professional standing. The episode concludes with Greene detailing his current parenting approach focused on outdoor play and limiting screen time for his daughters, expressing a desire for a son, before ending with professional announcements regarding booking inquiries for the 85 South Show and a promotion for their independent streaming service, Channel 85.
Read the full video transcript
This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. If you're a person who takes sports to heart, this might not be for your [ __ ] ass. However, if you a player and this is where you need to be, we have a little saying here called KIN. And if you know, you know. And that's how we like to keep it. So just when you start to take this show a little too seriously, just remember K I N. >> I saw them win that championship and Michael Jordan was crying, hugging Scotty Pippen. They crying. He holding the ball on the floor. >> I seen him. >> Well, that's the one. >> Don't touch me. >> Yeah. >> Don't touch me. >> My daddy jumped out the window. Huh? >> Championship game. My bad. Keep going. That's He was happy. He jumped out the window. I swear >> that [ __ ] thought he was Mike. Oh, you know what? [ __ ] y'all. >> Michael J. >> What he say? Michael J. >> You know Pop had the team joins on too. He at >> You know it. Six rings. What they got yet? What the six rings out? >> He had the hybrids, huh? >> He was >> the Air Force ones and the fours >> strapped up. >> He was very tired. Come on now. >> He was barefoot >> and a jump >> power broken. Broken gas broken. Hey man, ball Jojo. We got an NBA champion in the [ __ ] building, man. >> Yeah. Georgia Tech alumni, Cleveland Cavalier, New York Nick, Chicago [ __ ] we got Iman Trump in the [ __ ] >> Yeah. Appreciate y'all, man. >> Man, appreciate you pushing up on us, man. >> This [ __ ] crazy. We lit. >> They got to take us serious. >> They better [ __ ] >> Should have been y'all talking about >> should have been. Hell you talking about, man? Y'all saw that [ __ ] with uh what? My boy Caner in the WNBA. >> Yeah. >> No, that's not your boy. That's your girl. Get it right. >> Get it right as a as a woman now. >> As a woman, >> I I hate that. I hate I If she just use it for inspiration. Cool. >> He trolling. >> Yeah. >> But it's just kind of like >> But that's the thing. He not trolling. How's he trolling? >> He's on their team. >> I I get what you saying, but you're kind of making a mockery out of what women take serious as in like >> how serious do they take it? >> I'm saying, you know, the the community like they take that serious community. >> The LGBTQ plus I don't >> Well, you named a lot of the more letter they done added some [ __ ] >> They did. He ain't said nothing about anything rainbow. >> Yeah. >> He said he Well, cuz he identifies as a woman. >> But I'm saying if you make it like that, so as a grown man who was in the NBA, if he go out there and start playing against them cuz he identify as a woman, what is he doing different than a transgender? >> Yeah, that's the thing. All he doing is saying transgender. >> Is it transgender men? >> I that's just just I don't know. >> Trans I don't know. >> I'm not educated enough. I'm thinking transgender women. >> Women. Yeah. >> Because you going to that, right? Right. >> So, uh, transgender women shouldn't be allowed to play against women because they was born biologically male. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like they are abilities to do, >> stronger, all that type of stuff. >> It's going to look freakishly more advanced than women. >> Well, I agree. I'm I'm on that side. Like, I don't think that that should even be a thing. >> He's saying he's he was so upset with it. He's saying instead of sitting here and complaining about it, >> I'm going to jump into mode and say, "Okay, then I'm a girl." But it's like when you see me coming, then it's like, "Whoa, well, this is unfair." He like, "Cool, change the rule." >> That's where he coming from. >> I understand where he coming from. I'm telling you why the women were were angry. They were angry because >> they feel like it's a mockery out of >> He's saying it's a mockery. He's saying, "But if I do it, >> that's the feud. That's what he But even him standing up and raising his arms, he's saying, "Thank you. We're bringing more. You're you're helping me. You're bringing more attention in a different angle if that makes sense. >> But he's not. But trust me, guys. I en Enis or Royce, they're not trying to come in that league and play against y'all. Trust me, bro. >> I'm telling the first time they see one of them transgender throw the ball against that mother." They showed they showed the one uh >> white dude. >> They showed that white dude. Yeah, the white dude. But he was just running, but you could tell like the speed and force he's running with what his body can control at that speed. If a woman gets in the way, she'll get hurt. And it's like now you're asking the dad of that woman who comes to the game. You're asking him to chill. You're asking his uncle to chill. You're asking for real though. Like you better hope. Yeah. You You better hope. Like >> I couldn't imagine if my daughter had to compete and I knew that a biological man cuz it's like at that point y'all don't want to see a competitive sport. >> Yeah. >> Right. >> You know what I mean? Cuz in a competitive sport, it's like he was born a man. If he transgenders into I mean transitions into a woman, he still should have to compete against us. >> Yeah. give him his own locker room. >> Yeah. >> But bring your ass here, boy. >> Come over here. Like once you put that jersey on, I really don't care if you who you are. Like >> once you put Yeah. That's not That's not fair. >> It's just not fair. like >> but and I ain't I ain't going to lie. It's it's alarming or it's I'm I'm going to say it makes me uncomfortable to see WNBA players coming out and actually advocating for transgenders to join the league because you see and we know Aman we all know in this room. Yeah. >> Just the advantage of uh you know men naturalborn men and and what they have over women just with speed coordination overall power. >> It's just to see the it's to see the fist pump the like Yeah. Like, bro, what? >> I feel like they can just have their own league. Does that >> And it might be entertaining. >> I've been wanting to see like just have your own league. >> Like they could do whatever they want to do. >> Yeah. >> That it might be raw. >> Might be a raw little league, Joe. >> No. >> They going to be raw for No. >> Oh, bro. >> No doubt. >> All right. All right. All right. All right. Understand though. They might be cold, though. up. >> [ __ ] be out there going crazy. Y'all going to be sick. Oh, bros. Pick your sales through the roof. >> Then next thing you know, [ __ ] is gaming. >> Hey, while we playing, >> that [ __ ] will definitely be on Py market. >> Hey, check it out. >> Most definitely. >> While we bullshitting though, we at that age, man, we need to put some money in the pot. Get that league together, dog. >> What about the uh how they been they start back throwing the deals at the uh WNBA game? Like it's [ __ ] like that. Come on gang. >> I don't get why all this is like why they keep trying to do weird stuff. >> Hey, but Natasha Cloud went off though >> about that [ __ ] >> I don't know why people do some of the stuff they do to >> facts cuz >> it's unnecessary. >> Lame as [ __ ] Sorry. And I just >> man and like in most of these occasions it's men. And I want you to know that is the gayest thing that you can do is to go to a store, a sex shop, buy a dildo, come to a woman's game to throw the dildo on the court. That is the gayest [ __ ] that I've ever heard. So, um, I'm a firm believer in anyone that has so much problem with a certain marginalized group, >> just come out and say that you're a part of our marginalized group because that hate is unworthy. >> I just don't think this [ __ ] funny. It's not >> like I don't see the the point of doing this [ __ ] like >> somebody probably put on it. >> Um, wow. >> Media has really grown, >> right? Because how she even >> how she get to get that off? Yeah, she got that off. >> Promoting hate by >> I'm trying to be quiet. >> You know what I'm saying? Be quiet. >> Promotion of hate, too, though. >> It's not even I don't think it's promotion of hate. I think it's just like >> it's her real feelings. Like you could tell she feels strongly about it. But as an athlete, even when you feel that we're media trained to be like, "Don't say that." >> A professional professional. >> Like even her using gay as a term. >> But I think that but I think that's I think that's why she went unprofessional is cuz she like please stop doing unprofessional [ __ ] while I'm doing my professional [ __ ] on this court. Like I'm so serious about this [ __ ] >> If you do that again, like I get the aggression. It's just like I'm looking at it like damn, bro. I thought I would have heard about that more. >> Come on in. In that in that Boston crowd, how many times you been called the n-word? >> A lot. >> So, how many times you went on on in a press conference and just went crazy and took off your pro professional coat. >> Let that [ __ ] go. >> That's why you can't let Enis cancer in the league cuz I don't care. You can call me whatever you I want to win that game so bad. >> You can call me whatever you want. Just after the game, just go to your house. I I just >> don't yell at me after the game. Now after the game I become Iman like >> I'm when I'm shump >> once the name on my jersey. Yeah. I It ain't a lot that I care about outside of winning that game. >> You know you got to be hooping for them to call you a [ __ ] >> Oh you don't >> Yeah cuz like if you having a bad game they ain't [ __ ] with you. >> But it's part I feel like it's part of it though. Like >> Yeah. >> I've been waiting my whole life to go play Boston to see if they really do that. And they do it. >> Oh, they do it. >> Damn [ __ ] >> Utah. They do it. >> Utah. >> But you know, you watch the crowd. I watched them Bulls play Utah. And I'm like, bro, like they out there doing that. Like they saying that like, do you see these crowds? I'm like, they had their face painted. They yelling at the cameras and [ __ ] who had the craziest um crowd >> to play against when that when that when we was in the Warrior [ __ ] when they had that little ass arena and them seats went straight up every time they made any shot it was just like too much like >> it too loud. >> It was too much. >> What was that stadium called? That gym arena. >> Was it Oracle? >> Oracle. >> Oracle Arena. >> And then that you know from the Matrix to Oracle knowing everything. It just pissed me off. Don't even That's not even talking. >> That real picking up what you >> see. And then I got to look at the lightkinned [ __ ] >> Oh, man. How the [ __ ] I get thrown in this? >> Oh, man. You part of them light them light-kinned [ __ ] was firing us up, boy. >> You like Bronson, [ __ ] I got the jersey on. >> No, no, no. For sure though. Yeah, he definitely, you feel me? >> When the [ __ ] you became a Bronson fan? >> No, they I play >> the lightkinned [ __ ] do that lightkinned [ __ ] >> They go with the lightkinned guy. He got a Jason Tatum jersey, too. >> Me and this [ __ ] both losing with the Spurs. Then I just realized you got a [ __ ] Brussels. >> I lost the bet. Okay. >> The [ __ ] sent the jersey, so I I kept my word. So, shout out to them. So, you really was going to wear a Wimby jersey. >> I wanted to wear a Wimby jersey. Yeah, they're number one on that [ __ ] But yeah, I lost a bit. >> See, you see how my point still exists? The lights still. >> I lost it. Don't do that. Don't do that. >> But yeah, you know, I get it. Hey, Angel Reese had 26 [ __ ] rebounds. >> Angel Reese be hooping, man. They be mad. They so mad at her. >> They be mad. >> They mad at her because she don't like Caitlyn Clark. Caitlyn Clark don't like her and they want them to like It's like, bro, >> that what the league need though. >> This is what sports is all about. That's why y'all making so much money now. Cuz we finally know >> they don't hang out after the game, right? >> And that's okay. They can hate each other for 48 minutes and then after they careers, I'm sure they going to sit down and have a nice dinner. >> Yeah, >> they're going to have a great dinner. >> Do an interview with each other, man. >> Oh, bro, they going to be the best of friends. Afterwards, though. >> Mhm. >> They can keep this up as long as they want. >> Yeah. Right now, they were they was selling. >> I like that. >> Every time they play, >> Angel be hooping, though. >> But the other day I talk a lot of [ __ ] The other day she was nine for nine. >> Yeah. >> Didn't miss a shot. But people go with a lot of the clickbait though where people I you can take footage of me Iman's bad shots on synergy and if you put it together a highlight reel put some quirky music y'all will be like this [ __ ] was in the NBA. >> Yeah, I see what you're saying. >> I can show you brain farts that Melo had where I remember sitting there crying laughing like bro what the [ __ ] are you doing? But we human like >> they'll do that on Instagram and you'll think a [ __ ] can't hoop. >> Angel Reese could hoop dog. >> Oh no for sure, bro. This what they did, bro. >> 31 points, 14 rebounds, four steals. Which game is this? >> And she running four man four three four swing like 26 double double of the year. >> Oh, she going to get no rebound. She walk she'll walking rebound like it ain't >> she had to. >> So on prospects, >> but she could do everything. She could dribble. >> You know what I'm saying? She could shoot. I don't know why she don't have more confidence in her shot, but she can shoot. >> I like the I like the dream. >> Take a little time. >> I like Alicia. >> And she need to take her time with her layups sometimes, but it's like the effort is always there. She plays hard. She reads the game well. Like, >> but I ain't going to lie, Sh. They got me one time. It was like, >> she don't beg for the ball or hog all game. >> They had it on Twitter. They were like, "Uh, Angel Reese, fast break dunk." [ __ ] I clicked it so fast, I automatically believed it. >> And she missed the layup. >> Yeah. I said, "Bro, this lame as fuck." >> Yeah, they do that >> cuz it's like when you see that headline, I'm like, >> I was ready to goddamn I said by time somebody done dunk this [ __ ] >> Talking about time. >> I tell you what, that girl a winner. >> Yeah, >> she make winning play. >> I'm with you on that for >> I'll be having to go. I'll be having to go. >> Yes, she wins. That's her thing. The reason they don't like her is because she showed Caitlyn Clark her hand and said, >> "Yeah, >> and she >> That's what she >> fine. >> Here she go. >> Debatable." >> I mean, >> no, we not here for that. >> Let it would have been a stud. >> Lady got 20. Lady got 20 rebounds. We not here for that. >> That's a great basketball player. That's a beautiful woman. Good job, Angel. >> There we go. >> Yeah. If it would have been a stud, they look Look how they treat. >> Y'all funny as hell. >> My milk of magnesium. Yeah, that's what I want to see. >> 37 points, eight threes, a careerh high in Tennessee, baby. Go ahead. >> She another one that could go. >> Yeah. >> Yeah, she could go for sure. >> She just got >> Hey, you know, I'm going tell y'all they talking about Olivia Miles >> is the coldest. >> She's Maya Moore over again. >> I can't say that. >> Okay, >> she is Hey, she is Maya Moore all over again. >> I see. >> Well, that's a lot. Now, >> she go >> she go out there and Go look at Maymore. How >> might be a little more used to take that ball, put it in one hand, serve the pizza and lay you up, scoop you. But it's like >> that's the thing we was talking about with uh men. >> Yeah. >> A man do that. A man going to be on top of you ready to block that [ __ ] With women, they just don't play as aggressive. When you put this out there like that and they see how far they have to go, they don't even try it. She be by herself scooping that. You know what I'm saying? Like >> I watch that [ __ ] is so much like Maya Moore. And Maya Moore was a [ __ ] winner in a league that was honestly way more aggressive. >> Listen, she like Mount Rushmore WNBA. Correct. >> Man, she's so cold. >> Hell yeah. >> Damn. Hey, so Asia still number one for the MVP. >> I mean, oh, Asia one of the coldest. >> Oh, no. No, for sure. I get that. I just think they got a better team though. Like, you know, way better. Yeah. So, it's like your team. But what? >> Kaitlin Cart coming. That's your you that's your argument all the time with MVP. >> Yeah. I feel like if I take this player away now get Asia is the best player in the WNBA. I'm saying that. I know that. But I'm saying if you take her away from that team, they still got a good team. >> They're not going to win. >> They ain't going to win no championship. But they still got a good team. >> They're not going to win. >> You don't think they'll win at all? >> You just said they ain't going to win no championship. They not gonna win. >> Yeah. >> That's the important part. >> That's the important part. They win and she's there. championship. >> If she's not there, there's no wins. Do you not realize that she hit the last shot? That's her. >> Most valuable player. That means >> she is valuable as [ __ ] >> She the best player in the league. That's just like, okay, with Braun, Braun could have won the MVP every year. >> He could have. That's always the argument. >> Yeah. So, I'm saying >> now you see why people be saying, "Why y'all go so hard for LeBron?" Cuz LeBron could have won the MVP every year for sure. >> It's honestly debatable. But people do go off like could you say Steph Curry shouldn't have been the MVP? >> No. He >> Can you say Kevin Durant wasn't MVP? >> Braun was in all these conversations, bro. >> If I had to get an MVP this year, I would give it to Olivia Mile. >> Why? >> Cuz nobody with with Ka being hurt, nobody saw Minnesota. They still got the best record. >> They still holding it. >> Yeah. She had been hurt all season. Am I lying though? >> Yeah, Fee was hurt. >> Yeah. >> So, you go for like the the >> Yeah, she been running the team. No lie. >> Like more so the splash the impact like the overall like almost like a surprise element that come along with the MVP as opposed to just >> cuz I'm alone. You feel me? >> I like the gravity of Asia Wilson. >> Like they still ain't figured out Olivia Miles. >> They have fullblown defensive swings for Asia Wilson. Okay. >> You change your defensive night. Your whole game plan changes. >> No, she the best player in the league. >> But that's what I'm saying. Is it the same thing when you see Olivia Miles or is it just a tough matchup? >> Right now it's a tough matchup. >> We'll see when she get to the playoffs how she really get down. >> Yeah. cuz then they gonna throw a whole defensive scheme at you. And that's usually when you see people hit a wall >> cuz like you ain't never dealt with for a a real live look at it in a series >> a [ __ ] going to be on you different like >> during the season you came off the ball screen they hedged hard. >> Yeah. >> It was a baby trap. They got away >> [ __ ] in the playoffs you come off that [ __ ] airtight sealed all over you too to where you like foul [ __ ] Damn. Like, wo. Like, you trying to get rid of it. But it get like that even with women where it gets serious and they start saying, "Dog, this is what she do. She served the pizza. When she do that, we going to help off somebody come poke at that. She not playing with one hand tonight. All this one hand [ __ ] is out tonight." But it's like during the season, you let a young player go out here and show you all they got. You really, you really going to make it look like they that, you know what I'm saying? You can't deal with her because you just trying [ __ ] but you trying it so you can write it down. Okay, this didn't work. >> So, I like my I base my pick off of who I like like style of game. >> So, who >> I like Olivia style of game. >> I love it. >> Like >> and Caitlyn Clark. >> Oh, she really broke. >> But I'm saying like them like my kind who >> them but these my kind of players that I'm like I just like the way they play. >> Paige. Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Paige is nice. >> Paige is flashy too. >> She flashy. She talk a lot. >> She do talk some [ __ ] My favorite uh in the what you call in the W is always uh Courtney Williams. Ever since I seen Courtney Williams play >> Oh, with Minnesota. >> She's so aggressive. >> Yeah, >> I love her. >> Cuz she was at she was in Chicago first. >> But she just every time she scored looked like [ __ ] pop when her pops was at the game doing that with her pop. >> That's what they do. Like you know what I'm saying? Like I like her aggression. She got that dog in her and she play at that choppy pace. Um, but yeah, Olivia is Yeah, >> she a rookie. So, >> but we'll see. That's only after I see. She definitely rookie of the year for [ __ ] show. >> Yeah, >> Dallas [ __ ] up >> very much. Yeah, they did. >> That's why she be playing so with that chip on her shoulder like that. They don't like that [ __ ] >> Her and Paige, >> that [ __ ] is crazy. >> All that love and basketball [ __ ] >> I'm trying to tell you. Love and happiness. >> Sydney Taylor a cold game winner. >> Oh yeah. >> She a walk on a she. >> Huh? >> Is she a walk- on or undrafted? Yeah. This She done did this before, huh? >> For the game. She done did >> call that [ __ ] >> That's the one from overseas, right? >> Is she from overseas? >> I know she Yeah, she was undrafted. >> How old is she? >> She liked that. Yeah, she like that. >> Damn. Hold on. Can y'all show her face one more time? Yeah, she's straight. Go back. >> Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. >> Okay. >> Press pause. >> Oh yeah, she's nice. >> She play the house. We pull up some profile pictures. >> She done did that before though. >> Oh yeah, she's been here before doing >> What's her name? >> Sydney Taylor. >> My new favorite. >> Go get a jersey. >> Yeah, go get a jersey. >> Yes, sir. >> Get you a Taylor jersey. My new favorite. >> Oh, she got Yeah, she got work. >> That's my new favorite. Sydney T. Let me write that name down. >> That boy Clay Thompson don't went down to Miami. What y'all think about that? >> Might be a little late for for Clay. >> Yeah, >> but you never know, man. It might be what Clay need cuz if anything, Giannis going to give him some Oh my god, that lady got go. She in the right city, too. It look good on paper for Clay though for Miami. >> He gonna have the shot. >> Yeah, it look good on paper. >> Yeah, he'll have time to get his shot off and stuff >> if we still got it. >> It just about just about being healthy. That's all. >> Like how he feel about Lamar. That's how I feel about Clay. >> Why? >> Like that window >> championships, >> man. I think [ __ ] [ __ ] ain't young. >> It's like it ain't really as effective old. >> Yeah, I'm saying. But I'm saying like when they say [ __ ] ain't young like the like what what else he he got to prove? >> He ain't got to prove nothing. I'm just saying like I'm not so like ah about him going down like I would have been. >> That's what I mean. That's what we mean about >> five years ago. Huh? >> That's what we mean about fit like >> oh >> Klay Thompson may not beh coming downhill. in Greek >> if it's and it's antenna. Antenna Kmpo. >> Antenna Kumbo. >> Yeah. But I ever the first time I seen it, I said I tended to ko and it's just it's a little rhythm thing for me. I >> It is. >> Anyway, if he going downhill and you have to >> go in like that to to stop him, then you kick it out to Clay. It's like, yeah, Clay might not be able to get his [ __ ] off how he used to where >> you be standing there and he'll just pop you like he may not be laser like that no more, but if you leave Klay Thompson open, >> you don't want to do that. He could have. They could have. >> He might miss the first one, but you ain't just going to keep getting Yeah. You ain't going to never not run out there to goddamn defend that [ __ ] >> That going to get bigger and bigger every time. >> You going to actually have to play defense. >> Yeah. >> Type [ __ ] Yeah, >> type [ __ ] >> That's good. >> But the similar similar roster though. >> Hey, ain't [ __ ] I don't know. On paper right now, ain't none of this [ __ ] mattering. If you got to go against Philly, >> fixes in, bro. >> Man, fixes in. >> These [ __ ] could get whoever they want to goddamn get on the team. That goddamn Philly team. You saw Tyrese Maxi was talking about it. >> He was like, "Shit." He said, "I ain't know they call um Embiid process >> the process trespass." >> Yeah. Like they they but I'm saying a I know that was in Nick. I ain't knowing they called him like it referred to him at that. Yeah. He was like so process going you know what I mean if he could play 40 game. I'm like they called a [ __ ] process. >> So he was like but I'm saying you know I like I noticed >> we was going to call him Joel. >> I'm think like >> right. >> No but I ain't going to lie. He has the whole time we've been calling him process. >> Process. >> So a [ __ ] dab him up process. What the hell going on? What up process? Same >> [ __ ] I ain't going to >> lie. I don't know. Home that trust the process. Uh >> that's his nickname. That's like like Paul Pierce. People used to call him truth. >> Truth. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Like Well, especially when you refer to him. I don't think as much you would say it. >> Ticket. Yeah. You called him cuz he was the big ticket. Like when you earn your nickname, it makes sense like that. >> Cuz you earn your nickname in the league. You know what I'm saying? Like Mike, >> everybody wanted to be like Mike. Yeah, >> that [ __ ] But he was saying like, bro, he was like with I think it's going to be easy. He was like, you know what I mean? If they if they sit out, I might go for 35 some games. I might go 18. Like, I ain't he was like, we just want to win >> straight up. >> He just talking like that. Tyrese Maxi is like, >> he ain't never been through it though. >> You got You got to You got to be that. All right. Say >> that last moment that LeBron had. I just I be I be telling people, especially with Braun, sometimes it take >> two years just because the first time playing with Braun, it's just new for everybody. >> Yeah. >> It ain't the same. It ain't the same. Games ain't never meant that much. >> Like every game. >> Every game. >> And they watching >> we Yeah. >> Yeah. And they expect you to win. And if this man ain't playing well, it's like now we ain't game playing for that. Like all our plays is kind of ran and tailored through. >> Yeah. >> You get what I'm saying? But it's like it's just different. Like people don't understand that. Like you may come out >> and Yeah. you you see that this man can't guard me or you feel like that, but it's like, "Hey bro, first play for Kevin Love." You know what I'm saying? They go hit them with the Hey, bro. first play for you. What you doing? >> Mhm. >> Throw that thing in there cuz if you miss it and they make it and y'all lose by two. >> Yeah. They going to remember that. >> Well, you just >> It just a different type of pressure. I just remember me and Jr. got there. I remember telling JR in that 2016 run. I used to be like, "Bro, I ain't going to lie, I had to get adjusted to like now we lit. We rolling through the like I'm cool with it now. >> But I'm like, >> [ __ ] this was an adjustment, bro. Like we didn't I don't think I understood basketball at the level I do now like >> with the Knicks. I wish I was at this level mentally when I was playing over there like >> Yeah. Like >> do you think if would you feel like they could have gave it another year or something like that or you think it it had >> with the Knicks? >> Yeah. >> Oh yeah. We we should have we should have been together for a while. >> Yeah. Cuz it's like it would like even though like it was a fun team though. >> Yeah. It was we we feel like we the one after a while. >> What was it starting five? Uh Raymond. It was Raymond. Damn you kid. Uh Melo Amari and Tyson. >> God damn. Tyson channel don't get talked about enough in my opinion. >> Yeah. Tyson champion. >> Remember Dallas? >> He started that tap out [ __ ] Tap the ball out >> [ __ ] Even in uh what was the other team he was with? I think Charlotte. No, New Orleans or something like that. He he did all right. >> Mhm. >> Yes sir. College football starts this weekend. Look, you still got WNBA. You got baseball in full swing. Teams trying to make it to the playoffs. Look, guess what? It's time for you to make it to the playoffs. If you knew the prize fix, if you use that code, that promo code broken play and you play $5, they give you $150 in line. You ain't even got to be a genius to get this money. All you got to do is pick more or less. less or more on some of your favorite players and some of the players you don't even like. And guess what happens? You get that money up to 25 times your money. Sometime you do power play, it could be 13 times your money. You using the demons, you got demons, you got goblins. Just go get some money, man. Tell them we sent you. Go get some money. Labor Day on the way. Have steak for me young all on the grill. Ribis, T-bones. Come on. Hey, what's up? It's your man Carlos Miller. September 3rd. What you doing? Let's kick it at center stage. Yes, I'm bringing the one man show back. >> That's your man right there. I can tell y'all dress alike. That's your man right there. Y'all kind of dress similar. At what phase of the relationship do y'all start dressing alike? Ladies, if you got that kind of [ __ ] I don't want none. September 3rd, Atlanta, Georgia. Grab those tickets, man. Carlos Miller, one man show here. Get that belly rub. >> You know she a freak cuz she got her stomach put up and out at the same time. >> That [ __ ] got me [ __ ] up. >> Uh-uh. >> Hell yeah. >> She want you to role play with that [ __ ] Army matey. I'll find the coach. >> That's it. >> What's your name? >> Big F. >> Big Fine. That's what they call you. >> That's what they call. >> You call you that. You lying. >> Let me see you whine. Let me see you grind. Let me see your Let me see your grind. Let me see your wine. Let them see >> how how the hell you end up at Georgia Tech coming from Chicago. >> Paul, he uh one I I was I always had black coaches. >> I I don't I didn't come from just having a white coach. I I my dad had me with I was always with the guys. So it's like when I was getting recruited when I talked to coach you I talked to him and I could tell like with other coaches they would be like talking like I'm like you talk to everybody like this like I don't really mean much at all to you. You know what I'm saying? And coach Hewitt got to the point where this man started talking to me as if I went there already. >> Yeah. >> You get what I'm saying? Like he like >> he called me and be like, "Hey, what's the you watching this this uh this game?" Like like bro, you using your call for this. You can't even like they limited your call. Why would you call me for this? But he like I want you to watch this game and see how he doing this and doing that like already. And then the assistant coach used to do the same thing like hey bro you ever see something you don't understand with the film just called me and I like I was like man I'm really like drawn toward it took my visit >> came down here man >> Atlanta. Yeah. >> Hey took me right out soon as we walked out of tech. I did a whole tour there. We came back up there at night to uh to get shots up. >> Yeah. >> To get shots up. Coach Se turn right there to the gas station. He go in grab something out the gas station. But now I'm knowing he did that on purpose. He ain't need [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> But he knew that that little club was right there. >> Oh, you talking about the Chevron out 10 street. >> Yeah. Right there at that chevron. We right there. We never forget that [ __ ] We pull up that chevron. They got dangers at one point, too. >> Well, it was like 10:30, 11:00. Club just It that club right there on what's that? North A. >> Oh, he talking about Envy. >> No, not North A. Uh uh. >> No, that's uh >> what's that one way? >> Spring. >> Mhm. >> Right there on Spring Street. Shreddy. >> He He bell out. Go in the store. Um is he walk? Damn. >> No. No. The Chevron right there. It's not It's not And the Checkers used to be right there across the street. You saw the Checkers right there too, right? But right there to the right past the Chevron down the hill used to be a club right there. And people used to get their [ __ ] towed from that Chevron. Yeah, because they were parked there. I know exactly what he talking. I'm talking about be a lot of traffic. So lit. >> You gota say in that time you talking about >> then the players took me out. >> Players took me out. We go out. >> Uh I can't remember what reality show they had. We walking. They walk past filming. >> Um you know what I'm saying? I'm tweaked out shorty. They ain't filming nothing in Chicago at this time. You hear me? I that was tweaked out to me. I never seen this many black people all together >> outside at once. Like tricky, bro. >> Lie got me cuz you would you don't see white people a lot like in Atlanta, bro. >> Like like >> Yeah. You got to go to the Braves game. >> You go to the Braves game. >> He ain't lying. >> You going to know what's going on. >> You ain't going to see no [ __ ] >> You go to the Hey, you go to that Hawk I mean not Hawks uh uh Falcons game, you going to see what's going on. But I'm telling you, you going to see what's going on. They like that football. >> They like that baseball, >> you hear me? They like it. I been to a couple pubs out here, too. I ain't going to lie. >> They got a couple little lowkey five point pub. You feel me? >> [ __ ] Right by the brave stadium. Go some little [ __ ] out there. >> They got some little Yeah, that little too much fun. >> Don't be telling the spots. >> Don't be telling them the spots. Yeah, the little little >> But yeah, I got I took a liking to Atlanta, man. >> Straight off. So, you knew you were goddamn gonna come to Georgia? >> Yeah. Then I I was like, I need to play point guard and coach you was like, "Oh, you you are my point guard." Like, type [ __ ] And then Roy Williams, I'll never forget at North Carolina. I was like I was like back and forth and I was like, "Bro, I want to go where Mike went." >> I called him. I'm like, "Coach, >> am I going to play point guard?" Like I y'all keep mentioning other stuff like, "Am I going to play point? I want the ball in my hand. I make the decision. live or die like and he was like you know Iman we already got Larry Drew and you know I see you as so much more than a point guard and I just wasn't hearing that [ __ ] I like yep to the >> [ __ ] up right there just let him talk I'm going right back to that gas station to the gas station leave me at magic city >> cuz it it different type of whole environments too like I get it like you know like basketball-wise going to North Carolina. You know what I'm saying? Like that's >> But we had to play them. >> Yeah. >> I aaged 30 on them. >> Good [ __ ] >> Every time [ __ ] with you. >> Played with a y. >> Yeah. I was mad I played there. I was mad as [ __ ] >> This is why I should have been overly. >> That was no pitch from Paul Hewitt, too. Uh Paul Hwitt was a genuine coach and he genuinely cared about every >> uh dare I say uh colored athlete on that campus. Well, >> he pulled me a couple times to the side just to have sidebar conversations about leadership >> and holding myself and conducting myself the way I'm supposed to be. So, shout out to Paul for that, >> man. Tall Paul Hewitt, man. >> Tall Paul come in there with them big ass slacks like Jordan. His big as >> tall Paul Hewitt. He used to kick y'all out, >> huh? Yo, he used to get on our ass about everything, boy. >> Him and Zack Peacock. Zack Peacock. You remember Zack Peacock? >> Zack Peacock. Crazy ass. Shout out my boy Zack Peacock, man. Zack Peacock crazy ass was like a extension of Paul Hewitt, man. Paul Hewitt give us a rule stack going enforce the [ __ ] out that [ __ ] Oh god. >> No [ __ ] >> on my mama. I used to be mad as hell. They used to be want like I'll do anything basketball-wise, dog. But when you start telling me how I got to read, how I got to you feel me? >> My type of guy. >> Like you can't Yeah. You can't tell me. Like if you say we got study hall for this long, cool. But in this study hall, I might not want to do nothing. >> Yeah, I'm chilling. >> Oh, I'mma get my work done cuz that's what I do. If we got to have a team study hall, cool. I don't want to study next to y'all. >> I ain't doing that. >> N when you knew like while at Georgia Tech like, but I'm going to the league. Facts. >> But you like that was always like a dream growing up and all that. when it was >> I mean, yeah, I always wanted to go. >> Yeah. >> When I felt like I I was going >> probably that first time we played North Carolina cuz the actually the first first time >> Tyler uh >> Hero. >> Tyler Hanssboro. I was going to say Hero. Shout out to Tyler Hero. >> Tyler Hans. >> Hansboro. >> I fa to say uh Hansboro. >> Um he caught me with a elbow. Yeah. >> And I was trying to come back in the game and I answered some [ __ ] wrong as hell for percussion uh concussion protocol. I got the tweaking because he really did ring my [ __ ] Like I ain't know what was going on. Like >> they asked me some [ __ ] about like what day it was. So I just tweaked just said anything like I'm trying to play though. I'm hyped like come on man get me back out there. They like what day is it? Saturday. They like [ __ ] Yeah [ __ ] sit down. You over with. You don't even know where you know where you at. You know what I'm saying? Like I was just saying anything cuz I was just thinking like this [ __ ] just hit me out the game for I need to go in there and throw a elbow or something like [ __ ] I know enough to know that. Like I know I just got hit with a elbow and y'all just let it happen. Ain't nobody fight like what? And then you know what I'm saying? I I I came back and played them the next time from that concussion [ __ ] and I had my first 30. But before the game I remember Coach Huitt said, "Shout to coach you for this shit." He say, "And you know what? We got a great game plan. We We did great. But if we lose, it's cuz this [ __ ] right here don't got it. He pointed that me and shit." Oh, [ __ ] what? All right. All right. But I felt like he wasn't just saying it. He was saying like, "I'mma challenge you, but I'm also letting you know at the end of the game, it's on you. So if you got to do a couple little more little extra little, you know what I'm saying? Get it off. >> Yeah. >> But we better win type [ __ ] And I felt like it was on me. Every time we played North Carolina, just felt like [ __ ] know it's on me. >> And then like when you say like you knew that's the game >> after that game. Yeah. It was on ESPN. Yeah. >> That's the game [ __ ] watching. >> Everybody was watching. Yeah. >> We was on ESPN. We won. I I played well. >> I had like 16 in the first half. Like it was just I was just going like everything just made sense all of a sudden. And then everybody was like I could tell how people was looking at me and [ __ ] like I'm like oh they ain't but the coaches was talking different to me. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Like you know what I mean? The teachers start talking different cuz they like Yeah, he gone. >> Yeah. >> In their mind they like he hiring the agent. >> What season was it? >> What? >> This my second year >> cuz you after you you was out of there in two, >> huh? >> You was out of there in two years. >> No, three. >> Oh, you did three. Okay. I stayed that third year. >> Oh, okay. I uh the real reason I I hurt my I had to get my knee cleaned up. >> Oh, scope. >> Yeah, >> I had to get a scope done on my knee. >> I don't them damn surgeries and [ __ ] But listen, so like who was the toughest person you had to defend cuz we know you heavy on the >> defense >> defense side. And so I'm I'm assuming they always put you with the you know you're the best defender. I say like it's so hard to answer this because it's like it's some hard people to defend, right? >> Kevin Durant was just a bad matchup. Like [ __ ] you're seven feet. >> Shoot that [ __ ] >> Yeah. But you play like a guard. >> Yeah. But no matter what I do, even when my instincts, because that's my best thing. My instincts are really good. But it's like even if I guess perfectly, you're still too tall. Like I can't block this. Like I have to get it before it even goes up. And it's like if you get it to the, you know what I'm saying? Get it there. I know it's not. It's either you missed it, >> but it ain't >> I didn't I didn't do [ __ ] Like so I felt like that. Uh sometimes regarding him, I'd say James Harden made me that was the first time I had to adjust who I was. >> I'm like I'm not I'm you don't get to do crossovers in front of me. Like I just don't allow it. It's like not a thing at all. >> You ain't get crossed up. >> I've been crossed. >> Who crossed you? >> Kai. >> Kai crossed me. Kai the only person that Well, I've been crossed a couple times though. Like I done got mixed a few times. I mean like a time where you was like, "Damn, that's going to be on ESPN. >> Ky made me touch Earth." >> That's a bad [ __ ] though. >> Kyrie about the only that ever made me. >> You know which one it was. What do >> you do nothing crazy? He just >> Kyrie's got this thing of like he's he's very patient. Most people that I guard after dribbling and trying to get by me, you done used 10 dribbles. I'm counting your dribbles. >> Once you get to 15, 20 dribbles. Now, I'm going to test your handle. I'mma let you rock out. Your first four or five dribbles, I'll respect them. Long as you don't cross over, I'll respect it. You can get off, do whatever. Once you dribble after a certain bit, you start getting looser. You start jagging. Nobody drills to be dribbling. I think Kyrie drills to dribble the whole time because he >> it's no difference. His speed don't like some people get tired cuz they like I attack attack. He can attack, back out, walk, go again. Like it was like, bro, I've never dealt with somebody and he just surprised me that time. He >> I thought he was walking at all. Like man, you tired? I'm tired. Nope. >> In and out behind the back. I'm like, oh [ __ ] Oh, help help. Tyson, Tyson, Tyson. Hey, hey, I'll take yours. Take mine. >> Damn on bro with it. Roll that [ __ ] I was Damn. But yeah, nobody else. >> He scored. >> Hell yeah, he scored. >> Damn, >> that [ __ ] >> [ __ ] that [ __ ] cold. >> But yeah, James James the only [ __ ] made me adjust though >> where it's like >> you got to play James Harden. I'll let you do that crossover cuz I don't want to get a foul. I have to save my fouls until the fourth quarter against you. >> Like >> I know the ball's right there. I know it's right there. >> I'm not going to reach cuz I'm gonna get called for a foul whether I get the ball or not. >> So it was like I had never had to change who I don't let [ __ ] do that. >> You can't just just put the ball in my face. I'm just letting that happen. Hell no. But I was getting so many fouls. I done smack James in the beer. He does. He like something. >> He like, "Do for real. >> Know what time it is. Stop going in there half stepping." And you know what I'm talking about. I ain't trying to get all in nobody business, but if you ain't got Bluetooth gold, what are you doing for her? Stop going in that [ __ ] room doing that piss poor performance. She want to hear and you in there. Stop playing, man. When you use that promo code 85 sports, you get two months of Bluetooth go, guess what? They gonna throw another one in for free. What are we talking about, man? Visit blu.com for details on safety and all the information. No awkward doctor visits. They going to tell you everything. And guess what? Another thing they doing, 10% off on the shipping. Use that code 85 sports. You know why is the code is 85 sports? cuz you fa had a game of your life when you go in there with that Bluetooth go. This ain't about her. This about you. You want to put up one of the best performances you ever put up so she could go brag on you to that group chat? Thank you for sponsoring this part >> scenario. Which one would you be more upset about? Your woman giving up some [ __ ] or some money? >> That money. >> You said money. >> That was the option. Yeah, she either giving up that money or that [ __ ] Which one? [ __ ] you giving out, [ __ ] We got >> same. If my [ __ ] is is cheating and he paying for a [ __ ] to get her [ __ ] titties done or some crazy stupid ass [ __ ] Oh, I'm live. >> What if he only bought one titty? >> I don't give a [ __ ] I don't care if he bought the [ __ ] lunch, [ __ ] $1250. I'm pissed. >> If he if he giving a [ __ ] some money. >> Yeah. Like, just [ __ ] her. >> Sometime you got to give [ __ ] some money to Lee. No, but I don't take 200 to get the [ __ ] on. I got >> No, then you do that up front then. If you gonna [ __ ] her up front, can't do it can't be exchanged like that. That's what you got to give. What I'm saying with a good you got money. >> What I'm saying is is how what I would prefer. I don't care how what y'all got going on, but what I would prefer is for my [ __ ] going to do anything like that, man. >> You don't pay that [ __ ] and keep it. >> No, it ain't like that. you know, like like skill set wise, like when I think when you first came in the league, how you was just dunk and all that type of [ __ ] but like [ __ ] didn't realize like you was a defense special. Like when that [ __ ] just like clicked the whole time. >> I always had to play defense. The thing >> Yeah, I know. Of course. But it's like >> league only thing what happened, Melo shot the ball so much y'all didn't see me shoot. >> So y'all thought that's what I wanted to do. Like [ __ ] no. Melo shoots 20, 30 times a game, [ __ ] Like, >> but I'm saying [ __ ] and JR, right? lock up. JR right here too. He need to get off. And then [ __ ] it's like, bro, I played the video game with these [ __ ] I felt great about >> coming down. I do have a dunk. I could be thirsty and get my average up. But I'm totally throwing uh Switch this live. >> Yeah. >> I I just threw a live to J.R. Smith. I'm totally >> on cloud N. Yeah. Like I'm going to sleep like a baby. Like you see what I'm saying? Like and I feel like >> when I came to the league, I'm like, bro, it's not needed. this team don't need I've always had to do everything. I'm like they don't need me to do that. They really just need a [ __ ] that can cut the head off the snake. I'm like I don't know why. Like I would have did that even if y'all needed 25 out of me. You get what I'm saying? But it was like I also played my games where I was getting off and I got that talk like hey bro Melo get 100 million a year. You know what I mean? He probably million 100 million. You making million. You should probably give the ball. Like you should probably give him the ball. Like I don't know, >> you know. >> Yeah. Like >> get your ass up or you >> So like >> you going to be on the Bobcat for the border, [ __ ] >> The Bobcat. >> Oh, you remember the Bobcat? >> Yeah. Like they going to get they going to get you out of here now. They going to get you out of here now. >> You want to be in North Carolina? Get your ass down there. keep doing that [ __ ] >> Yeah, they but yeah, they had that conversation with me. And then I I think naturally though I I've always taken the challenge. So it's like I guarded the best player in high school cuz in Chicago growing up we don't have that thing where you can D Rose had to guard a threeman like it's not his matchup >> but he's the best player. >> Best on best. >> You're the best player. >> Yeah. Okay. If we lose, it got to go down with our best player. Like, >> right, >> what you mean? Like, and honestly, as the best player, you I feel like you should be insulted at the end of the game. >> Like, I honestly felt like in when I was playing, I'm I'm honored that Braun and Melo at the end of the game would let me guard whoever. But I actually was, you know, waiting on the day Braun or Melo just say, >> "Hey, man, get the get the [ __ ] out of here for this. [ __ ] it's the fourth quarter, [ __ ] You feel me? Like, I felt like that day should have came when it's like, "Shunk, get your Matter of fact, Melo did it once when we played Braun. He was in Miami and Melo had that 50 ball." Okay. >> He definitely said, "No, Shump, that's out. You got DW that's it. You don't get nothing." >> But [ __ ] that's still got >> that's still like >> [ __ ] >> But anyway, I'm just saying I I was He was saying all bets off. Like if Dwey and Braun, somebody come scream for each other. You're not switching on to Braun. >> Like you have no responsibility when it come to Braun. All y'all stay out of my way. But it was like a personal day for Melo. I don't know if he just got more sleep, but he was on [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? But he had that. But I was expecting in the fourth quarter, >> like if the game's on the line, I don't care if coach had me guarding the point guard. If the center got 30 and I got 30 and it's the end of the [ __ ] game and I know you going to do a ISO, [ __ ] you're going by me or you're not scoring. >> It's got to happen. Yeah. >> Period. That's how I would have to like I wouldn't have took no offense to Melo being like Shan, get the [ __ ] out of here. Or >> Braun being like, "Shump lady to death. Get the [ __ ] out of here." >> Yeah. >> Get the [ __ ] in the corner. Shump corner. Now, I wouldn't have minded then cuz it's just like >> at that I know why you telling But it's like, you know what I mean? It it it happened like that. And I was like, bro, I'm cool with that. If that's what's going to get me >> Yeah. >> on team that want to win and Yeah. give me my bag, then I'm down. [ __ ] Now the 3 and D players, them [ __ ] getting like 100 mil. I'm like, [ __ ] I'm three three years too late. Yeah. >> Yeah. I started at No, no. I was start in New York. That's how I started. >> It just I tore my when I tore my ACL. Uh, Raymond Felton happened. No, no, no. I lied. Before Raymond Felton happened, I hurt my uh MCL, my knee, and then Jay Lynn happened. >> Doesn't it? >> Linsanity happened. That's what happened. >> Oh, Jeremy Lynn. >> Lynsanity happened and they >> Man, cut that the damn speaker off. the insanity happened. Jay Lynn went on his [ __ ] and then they start being like, "Well, instead of Jay Lynn having to guard the point guard, just slide run two point guards." Like, at first that's how they talk to us. >> Y'all two point guards. Like, [ __ ] [ __ ] We got a problem bringing the ball up for y'all two point guards. Like, so I was looking at it like that and then it naturally start morphing cuz I was athletic. [ __ ] threw me a couple lobs. people start liking looking at it like that. And then Raymond came and they kind of wanted me to do the same thing with Raymond. How? Because Jayen left us. Jaylen went and got his bag. >> Yeah. >> But he left. He got up out of the Houston months. >> Went to Houston. >> Uhuh. >> After that, where did he >> Charlotte? >> Charlotte. Oh, Charlotte. >> Serious. >> Yeah, it was Charlotte. I think he got paid in Charlotte, I want to say. >> But yeah, Jay Le and then Raymond came in. and they slid me to two and then after that people just was like >> he's a 3 and D guy. I'm like nope I just like playing basketball and if they say that I feel like as a basketball player I should be able to >> you just a real team player. That would sound >> but I feel like I should be able to do everything. I thought it was strange as hell when [ __ ] like no you guard him. What? >> You was on that team uh when JR won the six man of the year. >> Hell yeah. >> So speaking of being a team player and doing everything uh you know J.R. Smith was criticized for burning both ends of the candle that year alone. >> Yeah. >> And even got pulled to the side and they was like, "Hey, bro, >> I think a vet on your team or or an exec was like, "Hey, you can't do both, bro. You can't hit these New York streets and still come out and perform." He said, "Watch this." In that very year, he won six man of the year. >> Was you in them streets? >> Cool. >> Oh, yeah. >> Right with him. >> So, >> I was right with him. >> Right with him. So, give me a typical night of Aman and Jr. just out parlaying and and and and enjoying New York City. >> I had this like rhinoplasty uh wrap on my Jeep. >> Yeah. >> So, it was like bumpy but flat and it the Jeep would just, you know, it was souped up. I ain't going to lie. It just it looked extra, >> right? >> And Swiss couldn't drive. So, Swish used to have a driver and [ __ ] So you'll like see switching, you know, little S5. >> Uhhuh. >> You know what I mean? He going to be parked all nice. Melo's Mayback right there. You know, I might park my Jeep on the sidewalk. >> Yeah. >> Do some [ __ ] >> Yeah. On the sidewalk. But yeah, we yeah, we was like it was to the like to the point where like on a regular night like >> you know how they'll be holding the line and [ __ ] doing all that like we just walk like it was like security they'll just be like what up Shump what up they like it's it's >> yeah Bottle Girls was cool. They like knew us at that point like they like oh yeah they good. We going to sit you right here like y'all don't >> y'all should be good >> bro. that man ran the streets and everybody knew it and still came up with a sixman uh uh uh of the year. >> People don't realize there's also a mental aspect to it. Like it ain't all this is and this is why they have to pay black people, right? Black people are going to enjoy whatever. >> Come on now. >> I don't give a damn. We might Yeah. We might trick it all, whatever, >> but black people play the game a certain way because they're in love with it. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? And it's like >> within that, it brings a party. It brings people come around, but it's like some people need to see that and then go to sleep and wake up charged up because they like, "My people going to be there. >> I got this." Like, and they lock in. I don't know what it is. Like people don't realize it about JR though. JR is super family oriented. He used to have his kids, his his nieces, nephews, everybody at the game, >> his dad at the game, his mom at the game, his cousins, his friends, >> you know, he's from Jersey, so it's like right there. So it's like he that family room used to be juking for Swiss. I ain't going to lie. >> Yeah. I mean, Melo had his people, of course, they got they nice little round table, >> but it you could tell like, and we be talking about it a lot of time, like you could tell when players don't hang out with each other like or like you know, oh yeah, we tight. >> Yeah. You could tell like >> so it be like it's some team like I be thinking when your team go further is like when [ __ ] is actually cool with each other. It's like cuz then it just like work. >> I tell you the one thing they did that was [ __ ] up. They got rid of Steve Novak. They sent Steve Novak away that year after he was doing the belt. They sent him away and gave us Andrea Banyani. And I'm sorry, Dre, I don't I don't have no like personal issue with you as a man, but as far as our team, like he was not a good fit. >> It threw it off, threw the chemistry off. >> The vibe was just not there. And it was there >> with with Stevie Novak, dog. And it was just like, why I felt like New York was still under that act where it was like, "Get a new coach, get a new coach, get a new coach." It's just like, "Bro, can y'all just chill?" >> Like, pick a coach and chill for a second. >> Give him a minute. [ __ ] >> You see what I'm saying? Like, give a [ __ ] two, three years to figure this out, to even see who we got to beat on the other side. Like, you know what I mean? Like, we don't even know who's the big bad wolf in the East right now. And we just firing coaches like so quick. I just don't understand it. So, I was like, if we' have had more years together, I feel like we'd have been we'd have been decent. I ain't going to lie. But they should have never got rid of Stevie Novak, dog. >> That was different. >> But that was some good time, boy. I'm telling you. Greenhouse whip, man. New York was different. One Oak back then. >> Yeah. >> For all this social media [ __ ] >> I can only imagine. >> Hey, you love you from New York. So like to go from New York to Cleveland, them two different that was like two different worlds, huh? >> Yeah. But Cleveland got this, you know what I'm saying? Like >> No, I'm talking about like team >> like Cleveland was in the playoffs. I wasn't tripping. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Like, oh, you got to go to Cleveland. I'm going to Cleveland. >> Thanks. >> I missing my Cleveland trip. Like, I'm going to Cleveland. >> All right. >> I like Cleveland a little bit. You know what I'm saying? Like I don't live there, of course, but when I go, I have a good time. like you. Hey Heat. Heat. Hey, hey, hey. the amount of people that you play with like having as teammates like the OGs and the vets, that [ __ ] is crazy. >> It's a gift and a curse. So it's so I'm just curious to like what is it that you learn from any of them like all together like as a player as a man? >> Uh well I say as a man like I think that the NBA don't get enough credit for like the men that it could turn you into. You know what I mean? Like you in that locker room with a bunch of grown ass [ __ ] Mhm. >> And I mean grown in the ways that people take for granted like mother got 401k plans, they will written. >> You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah. Little [ __ ] like that where a [ __ ] when >> advisors tax people some people like everybody got their own way they do it but you may come in and be getting your legs worked on or whatever and the trainers just you know getting soft tissue work done on you and you'll hear [ __ ] on the phone talking about producing a movie and it just the way your mind has to shift and understand like we're at a level and top percent of the world of making money and now we're in these conversations and we have to be aware >> like you have to be aware of how to use your money, how to spend money, how to understand money period. Like I thought I understood money, >> right? >> I didn't understand it. I'm like I know my pop didn't understand it cuz he taught me way better with >> Yeah. >> Like godamn >> but it's like you you start digging through that and ciphering through all the information and you start looking around the league and realizing like damn bro y'all taught me a lot. Like I look back on it, I'm like, damn, Melo taught me a lot. Like Braun ain't teached me much like as far as like that. I think I was already up to speed by around. No, I ain't mean like that. >> No, I get what you're saying. Like >> familiar. >> Yeah, like Yeah, I was >> Yeah, I'm a little h by that point. But then Braun's ability to like shape my mind for basketball was just like it's like he go back and forth between >> being like the oldest mind and the youngest mind where he like I would have never thought like I've been playing basketball my whole life until I played with Braun. I had never seen a point guard set a ball screen for somebody that's a fourman. >> I don't know why I never thought of that. I think I could do it the other way, but I would never think to do it. And Braun like all I'm trying to do is get the matchup. He can't guard me. He can guard me. >> He can't do it. And if I go off a ball screen, they going to trap. They going to load up and it's going to be a rotation. I'm going have to throw it over there. But if I go off this fast enough, his little ass just got to deal with me. They it ain't even gonna be time enough to s to do all that rot. Yeah. And then y'all just get out. >> And I was I I was like, "Wow." The way this [ __ ] play chess, >> it's like the new kid that don't know the rules or anything. So his mind naturally is creative. >> Yeah. >> But he know all your moves like the old man. >> He know the rules >> and he know how he could break them. >> Oh, he is crazy. He is AI. I told [ __ ] he is AI of the league, bro. He's Siri. >> What What was that first game like home game you playing with LeBron? The first like what what was I want to know like the crowd. I want to know like >> some girl [ __ ] >> Yeah. Like I want to know I want to know what >> I want to know what like you felt like like you know what I'm saying? Cuz I feel like your first >> I was coming back I was coming back from a shoulder injury. So, it wasn't like as much as like I I get it how it must feel being outside looking in as far as playing ball with these guys, but it's like once we got on the court together, my only thought was like, "Wow, this [ __ ] makes [ __ ] easy." >> Like, I was just like, I mean, the crowd, they blur after a while. You can't really see them. I don't care. Like, we got a game. I just want to know what that what the aura was when like >> the playoff aura was different. >> Yeah, the playoff aura was like I had never seen nothing like that. It was like >> I'm like when did y'all shoot all this stuff? Like Braun doing the holding his hand up doing the smoke in slow-mo. I'm like, when did this [ __ ] shoot this? >> I've been with this [ __ ] all year. He got a witness commercial going across the ticker. I'm like what? >> Just in time. Man, that poster they had downtown. >> That [ __ ] was so hard. >> Fire. >> Lie to you. >> So [ __ ] fire over my soul. I'm shorty. When did this happen? >> That [ __ ] was >> He had the what you call it? Hyping the crowd up like Cleveland, you guys ready for this? Like all type of [ __ ] Like I'm like, when did y'all do another media day, [ __ ] We Your hair wasn't even like that on media day. When did y'all shoot all this? Like we was there when we shot it. Okay. I remember that easy pump it up [ __ ] we did. When did you shoot this? But that's when I realized like Braun, Kyrie, these [ __ ] used to have like days that they just Nike just taking 20 days out their year. Like you got to shoot and they'll shoot that [ __ ] forget about that [ __ ] and a year later a commercial just drop. >> Just pop up. Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? But it's because they got to shoot every year. They got to you know what I mean? So it was like once I saw all the marketing, I remember my first thought being like, wow, they bring so much money in this mother. >> Yeah. >> I'm like, they got this Quick and Loans Arena got all these brands now associated. I'm like, I didn't see none of this before Braun came back >> in Miami. Yeah. You all the extra >> for sure. And you feel like Miami, that's what you know, I mean, it's Miami. It's just wild to know that one dude's decision booms an economy like that. >> Look how Philly is right now. >> It's booming. >> Well, they talking politics. They talking Philly. They talking recentification. No [ __ ] >> man. They don't name no Philly cheese steak after this [ __ ] The theory that two America turned 250 this year. Uh the Democrats are pushing for LeBron to be in Philly to to to Man, I'm telling you, it's a lot of theories being out there, bro. Real talk though, I'm being a real I know yet. >> It's a real thing. >> That [ __ ] That [ __ ] balling clicker. >> He one of the most I know exactly where you going. He one of the most powerful [ __ ] >> I'm telling you. >> I know this. >> No, no, no. But it's like >> before I was very Jumpman Jordan related. You get what I'm saying? Like I was very Michael Jeffrey Jordan about the situation. I've never seen a man move an economy the way LeBron James does. Yeah, >> there was people that are literally in business just because he's here playing. >> Let's go. >> I love the way he took care of his team, too, though. >> Yeah. All boys, they ain't >> Oh, his team he grew up with. >> Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah. >> All them got a position. >> Hold on. Ain't it ain't in a connection with uh that GM in Philly? Did he not play against LeBron in high school or some [ __ ] like that? And he's a part of bringing the LeBron to Philly. >> There's a connection with that. I can care less. >> But that front office, I'm I'm sure >> I can care less. They better win. >> If it's not player development, somebody that he used to play with. >> Oh, no, no, no, no. He uh they just brought Phil Handy. Phil Handy is the player development. He was with us in uh with the Cavaliers and he just went to he was with them in LA. >> I know I knew it was something like that. >> Yeah, but he's Wolver though. That's just Yeah, he's available. Yeah. All us would be like, "Oh, go grab him." >> Yeah. Okay. >> Player development coach. Oh, yeah. Go get Phil. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Phil got that [ __ ] Phil got that [ __ ] I >> I want to ask this, bro. That 3-1 comeback. >> Yeah. >> Like I don't even know. Like that [ __ ] was unheard of at the time. >> Like the the comeback 3-1 and then going against Golden State like they had all what they were 73 and N. >> They goddamn did all this. They up 3-1. >> But it's like even even the year before that I felt like if some players wouldn't hurt and stuff like that. I I like the Cleveland each year anyway. But this one they down 3-1. I'm like, "Bro, fuck." [ __ ] came. Now it's 3-2. Is that the game then? What? Draymond, he was out game six, wasn't he? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He was out game six. >> Yeah. Game six. And >> when it was 3-3, I said, "Boy, ain't no way Cleveland lose now." But like, when did y'all believe like we could come back from 3-1? >> 3-1. >> Damn. >> We was uh the shoot around. >> It's cold. >> Shoot around for game five. >> Uhhuh. >> And Braun was like, "We got to win this game." Like this one, we got to have it. Cuz he like after we win this, they not really going to want to win on our home court. So they they going to want it, but it's just if they can. >> They pumped up to win. Yeah. when we come back for game seven, they gonna realize they [ __ ] up. But wasn't it wasn't just how it happened. It was game four. You got to realize them [ __ ] was going off. But then game five, Bronn and Kyrie was gay. Like I don't know if people will really have gone back and watched Golden State played a hell of a game. They were playing great. >> Yeah. >> Kyrie and LeBron was out there, man. For the rest of that series, Braun was hitting threes. He was taking threes that I'm like, he don't do that. >> Yeah. >> Like he don't be pulling like that. Like not right now, right? Usually you got to hit a couple before you start shaking like that. Shorty, he was off the dribble with it. Letting that [ __ ] fly. I'm Damn. >> Yeah, they was doing it. Look, he looking it up. >> Yeah. Here we go, >> bro. Braun numbers alone that goddamn series was crazy. >> 41. Both of them. Told you. >> I still got the shoot pack for your teammates. That was uh >> that man had 4167 with only two turnovers, three steals, three blocks. >> Salute to that for real. >> [ __ ] boy can't say nothing. >> Played 43 of 48 minutes. >> This nigga's nuts, >> [ __ ] >> Kyrie ain't slacking. >> 41, three rebounds, six assists, four turnovers, two steals, one block. And when and 17 to 25. >> So that's efficient as a [ __ ] And Kyrie's allowed to have turnovers because if Kyrie has turnovers, it means he's ultra aggressive and trying [ __ ] >> And if he doing that, he in his bag, it all makes sense. If Kyrie don't got two, three turnovers, Kyrie might not be locked in. >> We need to piss Kyrie off >> immediately. That's the only time. >> But yeah, they >> team is coming back from 3-1, right? >> Boy. >> Yeah. >> When people say this, they be they'll say this like people will come to be like, "You only won that ring cuz y'all got carried. You act like I didn't sit on the team watching this [ __ ] I was amazed while it was [ __ ] happening. [ __ ] you not hurting my feelings. Game five, [ __ ] >> I had Yeah, I had front row seats to game five, [ __ ] [ __ ] you talking about? You have a better seat than me. The [ __ ] [ __ ] is wrong with you? I watched that 41 live, [ __ ] I couldn't believe it. >> I was talking to Stephan Clay about it during the game, [ __ ] I g [ __ ] It ain't all day, son. I ain't going to lie. Then Draymond had to sit out for kicking somebody in the balls. I >> know he had got some but they were like if they would had n it was like [ __ ] was locked in, bro. It don't matter. It don't matter. >> Locked. >> [ __ ] was locked, >> [ __ ] Like so we always be talking like championship or the money. Like so you done won a championship. Did How was that feeling though? Can you explain that? >> Uh yeah. I it's only a few things in my life that I felt like that felt that good. >> The births of my daughters >> say listen, >> you know what I'm saying? Like >> just not a lot of [ __ ] that make me that happy where it's like I can't talk, I can't breathe good. I had to remind myself >> in the way y'all did it, bro. The comeback from 31. >> Yeah, bro. So it's like, [ __ ] it's no other reason to hug a grown man. Like, >> real talk, I jumped up. >> Jumped up. Yeah. Hugging a grown man with all my might, bro. Yeah. >> Like I hugged all of them. Like we done, we group hug. >> Yeah. >> My splash of champagne. Well, but it was like, bro, >> to have gone through all these years of chasing this [ __ ] and finally get to have a goal. Like we all holding this [ __ ] down smoking smoking in the locker room [ __ ] I'm like fo we lit up in the locker. >> Come on. So I done lit up in a locker room in the NBA. Like come on. >> Finish the other half of that question. >> What? >> Yeah. So that feeling >> or what? >> Or about 500 m. >> Could they be saying 500 m or the championship? >> Oh yeah. I I mean now that I'm out the league. No, no. Answer that as the time. >> If I was 21 and you would have offered like 500 or you can go to a team that win a championship, I would have won the championship. >> All right, cool. >> Cuz I saw one of the only reasons I play basketball is cuz >> I remember we we played anyway just to be in competitive. But I watched some thing they did with Mike on the news where they like it's like a day in the life type [ __ ] >> right? He get out his Corvette smoking a cigar. Yeah. And they like like you know there's more to life for Michael Jordan. This is what he does. >> You know he had his kids and you know he talked about his mom house. They was like huge houses and Corvette cars. He pull up to the locker room and all them got sports cars. And I was just thinking like so they play basketball and get paid that much? I like I could buy my mom a house. All I got to do is play basketball. Good. >> Yeah. >> I was like, "This is such a simple decision like of what I need to do." Um, so it's like I saw them win that championship and Michael Jordan was crying, hugging Scotty Pippen. They crying. He holding the ball on the floor. >> I seen him. >> Well, that's the one. >> Don't touch me. >> Yeah. >> Don't touch me. >> My daddy jumped out the window. >> Huh? >> Game. My bad. Keep going. That's He was happy. He jumped out the window. I swear. >> A real window. >> I'm so sorry that I didn't mean to like trigger nothing. >> No, like he's okay. >> Oh, in celebration. >> In celebration. >> Oh my god. >> Oh my. You can't do that. >> Yo, that Latino [ __ ] >> Yeah, you got to have you got to have a whole paragraph. You just say that. You just said jumped out the window cuz I'm thinking of building. >> Yeah, I'm thinking he fed on the game, lost it all. Man, we should keep talking about this. >> I'm like, oh, >> I'm like I'm going to say how we got edit that out. >> Yeah, I'm going to say we ain't even got to keep going. >> Y'all are idiots. He was happy like MJ, but he jumped out the window in celebration. >> Okay, as long as he's safe, >> but keep going. Yeah, >> question. >> Respect with dad on powder up like what? Like >> what was the drug? What the [ __ ] >> He was my He's my stepdad. My but yeah. Now she want to downgrade the [ __ ] Godamn. >> He is he he was we was in the city and they won. I remember him jumping out the window. I remember that. I never going to forget. He was so happy. >> Second floor. >> Yeah, he throw. He Dominican. He throw. >> Definitely powder involved. >> But yeah, >> definitely. >> No, probably some beer, but not no. >> Yeah, bear a make you ain't see it, but it was some powder involved. >> Yeah, >> he ain't going to put powder on my on my skin. Did he for a lot? >> I'm just saying he was happy. He's Dominican. He was He was He was crazy as hell. But yeah, he jumped out the window. Celebrate. Landed on his feet. Didn't hurt. [ __ ] >> Oh yeah. Oh, come on now. >> Closed. >> Closed. Too much. >> That [ __ ] thought he was Mike. >> You know what? [ __ ] y'all. >> Michael J. What did he say? But M. >> Oh, that was funny. >> I too can fly. >> What? >> Y'all laughing real hard, ain't y'all? >> But you told you what you said. Yeah, you stopped the joy story so serious though. You stopped it so serious. Like I know, >> well, you know, then my dad jumped out a window. So >> you like, so you know there's that. I'm sorry to mess up your story. >> I'm thinking like, oh damn, that's how you like, go ahead and continue. >> Yeah, I'm going to leave. I'm like, damn, I lost my my dad last year, Joe. I understand. I You know what I mean? Like I'm going to go into a whole different spiel, gang. My wheels start turning like pivot pivot. You going to make her cry. Like, damn. You mind? Don't play with me, >> [ __ ] I didn't know. My bad. My bad. Made me feel so bad for a second. Like, >> oh, I'm sorry. >> We was so happy. You should have said, man, he was so happy he jumped out the window. You just said, yeah, he jumped out the window. So, there's that. Like, damn, >> man. Continue. >> Like, I'm glad I'm glad I'm dead. >> Okay. >> I don't even remember where we were. Yeah. >> You were saying you wanted to you that >> see this [ __ ] jump out the window now? >> Cuz I'm just saying like out the window with this one. >> Sean, it's so much preparation to jump out the window. Like [ __ ] got to lift the window up. >> Exactly. >> You got to go back like you got to >> But that's why I bought it up. Do you like that [ __ ] >> No, I'm tripping. What the Why he's saying >> it was traumatized in a way cuz I'm like why is he doing that? >> That's why he said case. >> I thought it was glass. I thought it was just straight through the glass. I'm using all my imagination. This is a celebration. >> The [ __ ] landed on his feet on his feet. >> So he looked down. I knew what he was doing. >> Yeah. That ain't no freestyle jump. >> He thought about this [ __ ] >> He done jump before. >> Come on now. >> He done jump before >> cuz he [ __ ] up the first time. >> Yeah. >> I bet. Hey, I bet I won't [ __ ] >> I got it. Next time I got to I got to time it up. I didn't time it up. >> I tried to land on one foot. >> There you go. >> Yeah. This time I'mma come down on feet. >> Boy, [ __ ] >> You got to land with your hand down like a three-point like Power Rangers. >> I [ __ ] up my zapper toes when I when I >> zappos. >> You know what? >> Oh my. >> Hey, you set yourself up for that. >> Forget y'all. >> You did that. You did that like that. >> I didn't know I had to say specify on him jumping out the window. In my mind, I'm I'm looking at him jump out the window like that's >> right now. We picture him jumping out the window. >> You know, Pops had the team joints on too. He had >> You know it. >> Six rings. What they not yet? What the rings out? >> He in the hybrids, huh? >> He was >> the Air Force ones and the fours, >> strapped up. >> He was Come on now. Like Jeff. >> What was they called? What was they called? Fusion. >> The fusion. He had the fusions. I had a pair of fusion. I had to play off fuges. >> I had to play off fuges with the strap on the side. Strap almost fell off them [ __ ] >> Now you know you can take that [ __ ] off. I know what going on. >> Yeah. Shout out to >> He was barefoot >> and the jump. >> What man power? >> That was a real power party man. Was you there? >> Was you there? That party man. >> I was there watching the game. >> We were all excited. >> Yeah, I bet. I ain't never going to forget. >> That was my first time shooting a gun when the bulls horn. >> That's what I'm saying. I've seen a lot of shooting on what you call the corn. >> But sound like it was a lot going on including that that I'm not going to bring up again. I seen like there was a limo driving by. It was like white girls they topless. They just was going through the city. >> But I think even with y'all growing up during that era like >> that should have led off. >> All y'all saw was championship. So it's like you know what I'm saying? After a while it's like oh Chicago supposed to win. Like you got to think growing up in Atlanta, we never seen [ __ ] bro. >> Damn. >> But the bra, you know, the Braves, but they ain't our type of parade. >> Yeah, facts. >> You know what I'm saying? But it like I want to see a championship like a NBA or NFL team win. That ain't happening in a minute. That ain't happen for a while. >> That ain't going to happen for a while, bro. >> Tap. It's coming. It's coming. >> Yeah, for sure. Like y'all going to have to, you know, >> it's some time. >> Some building got to happen. >> You ain't lying. >> But y'all y'all got a nice building piece, though. >> Who? >> Huh? >> Who? They got that young boy. Uh, why can't y'all think of his name right now? >> Um, >> talking about NBA. >> Yeah. >> Jaylen. Jayen. >> Jaylen. >> I I I I get nervous to say their names now cuz half the league is Jaylen. Jay Den. >> Yeah. >> Uh, Jason. >> Yeah. They got 30 different pronunc Yeah. Like I always mix them up. I I just called Jaylen Durham. I Jaylen Duran. I I was f I was referring to him. I start talking about Jaylen Brunson. >> Yeah. >> Like I be blending they name sometimes. [ __ ] be Jason. You know what I'm saying? Bro, I be I apologize. >> Well, you want to go to the league. Got to name him Jayla. >> You got He got a better chance. >> And the J A Y is different than the J A >> L E N. You know what I'm saying? Two different. >> You know what I'm saying? You got to pick which one you like better. >> Hell you talking? >> J A Y is going a totally different speed. >> This [ __ ] crazy though. I ain't gonna lie. That [ __ ] like the new Eric. >> Yeah. >> Like it ain't no more Erics in the league. It's just Jaylen aware. >> That's all. Like dang. >> That's Instagram going to [ __ ] it up. Everybody gonna have random ass names in about 10 years. You fa to be seeing some wild ass first names. >> It's already hella wild ass first name. >> But that's our generation. We ain't [ __ ] [ __ ] like that. Like I'm going to >> Everybody want be >> [ __ ] went to jail his whole life and go name his daughter Justice. >> That's effed up. >> He meant that. He meant that. >> You know what I'm saying? That's the type of [ __ ] we do. Like whatever [ __ ] go through like I want justice. >> Miracle. >> Miracle. Oh bro, [ __ ] need a miracle. He going to name his daughter Miracle. [ __ ] need Alexis. He gonna name his daughter Alexis. >> Oh god. I love black people. >> Damn. after y'all win y'all championship, then Kevin Durant go to Golden State. What y'all like, bro? What the [ __ ] it is? >> We know I was mad about that [ __ ] >> Why? >> I remember that [ __ ] It just was It was like, bro, that's unfair. >> But it's cool. Like once he got there and they started doing it, like once everybody adjusted, it was like, "We don't care. Build a super team. Everybody doing it." [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? But I actually in retrospect now that I'm older I'll be like looking at it like damn Braun KD when they left it was because they was dealing with something that us as midlevel players. we didn't have to deal with what they're dealing with with ownership >> where they're like, "You need to this off season go get me somebody that I feel like I could win with cuz >> I don't mind staying here, but you know, if I don't win, that's on my legacy." Like, >> you get what I'm saying? So, they they trying to pair up and do stuff and they wanted to bring people to them. The organization got them coming in training camp. They might be unhappy. They can't show us that. They happy to see us. >> Yeah, for sure. But it's like they really into it with the organization. >> You don't know what kind of conversations they have and like the whole season. Oh, this [ __ ] crying me >> the whole season unhappy. >> Yeah, >> he unhappy the whole season and you don't know. So, it's like now knowing that version of it, I don't be as mad at them. >> It's just like the version of the league that I loved was the loyal fan. The loyal fan is gone. you and we bro it's it's kind of hard cuz you had your favorite players and like and they jump ship soon as they jump ship you be like [ __ ] this color ain't that bad [ __ ] [ __ ] your favorite player go to the Lakers [ __ ] you like [ __ ] I can finally wear that [ __ ] with them purple matter of fact where my purple foams at >> you >> where my eggplants where they at pulling them out like that's >> that's how I was like [ __ ] like cuz I feel like >> people say they don't even follow teams no more they follow their player like I'm not a they said that They was not Laker fans. They were LeBron fans. >> Yeah. >> And now the Lakers [ __ ] just >> cuz now we ain't got to even pretend. >> That's crazy. >> Cuz like, bro, you know, Lakers fans were mad anyway. They were like, "We don't want no [ __ ] ass LeBron fans over here." That how they talk like, "Nigga, y'all ain't won [ __ ] in a minute." >> And he came over there. >> They don't They don't care about it though. Laker fans are crazy, bro. If you see how them [ __ ] talk on podcast and talk on they >> they all crazy. Yeah, all of them crazy. >> They be getting on me. All the fan bases get on my ass cuz now I be having to talk and give my professional opinion and I'll be like, "Listen, bro. I don't care to make none of y'all happy." >> Mhm. >> Like, I watch the games. I watch the matchups. I say what I see. I don't I don't make nothing personal. I make it all about the game and >> what I see. And I got to deal with people going off. They be going off. >> And they >> You don't even watch the games. You don't even um No, I don't think y'all watch the I think y'all just box score [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> No, that's the That's the thing. All they do is watch the [ __ ] game. You're talking to a a guy that's a [ __ ] NBA vet, a world champion. >> Yeah. >> And they really think they're comparable because you can now level with them to some degree cuz y'all can >> give your take. You feel what I'm saying? >> Which is crazy. >> But like he watching from a different set of eyes. >> You see what I'm saying? But they don't they won't >> they'll be like they'll say some [ __ ] like you just said you like the Knicks and I'm like I do like the Knicks. You know what I'm saying? I want the Knicks to win. Do I think that the win uh will happen in six games? No. I said they either going to have to these kids, but if they give them life, I feel like the Knicks could either uh win in seven >> or that the Spurs was going to win in six. But they beat them in five. They just, you know what I'm saying? But it should have been a sweep >> cuz they was busting their ass the whole time anyway. But I'm like, >> they was like, "Whose team are you on?" I'm like, "Bro, I'm not in this for loyalty." Like, if it's if it's for loyalty, my dog, y'all not realizing how quick I'mma say I'm a Chicago Bull. Like, when the starting lineups for the Cleveland Cavaliers was going, all I heard in my head was like like I'd be sitting there. People used to be like, "Why you sit at half court doing that?" cuz that's what I'm doing, >> right? >> I grew up hearing it. I've been waiting for it and now I'm not on the Bulls. >> Yeah. >> Running through >> and like watching them NBC, >> [ __ ] That bull running through the [ __ ] I'm telling you, you had to be jump through the And they jump through the jumbo. Dump through the bro during the playoffs. That [ __ ] jump through the jumbo tri. They got the streamers coming. It's like, [ __ ] this the beginning of the game. >> Yeah. >> They This should have party in the beginning. Like that. Not straight. Confetti >> confetti. Yeah. Would y'all like >> y'all knew y'all going to the championship every year like >> with I'm saying did y'all look at it like bro we ain't got to worry about Eastern Conference. >> Oh yeah. We knew after the first year with Eastern Conference. >> I ain't [ __ ] It's like we know what we got to deal with. No, we knew. >> Yeah. >> The whole time. >> Like soon as they had that year and they beat us that year, Kyrie halfed his knee. >> Mhm. >> They didn't see us that year. We was bad, bro. I'm talking about if we was healthy, I feel like we'd have two. They'd have two. >> Yeah. >> But it was that was not the case. Kyrie halfed his knee. I [ __ ] up my shoulder. Jr. [ __ ] up his back. K Love shoulder was messed up from >> Kelly Olet doing that dirt. >> 2017. >> No, this was 2015. >> 15. >> So, the year before? >> Yeah. >> Uhhuh. >> Yeah. This the first year we got that. We came at the Allar. >> Me and C. Yeah. Me and C. But uh yeah, we was just [ __ ] up >> cuz you remember [ __ ] Dela was start going off on the they got him some money. >> [ __ ] Yeah, but I mean Deli who? >> Yeah, but I'm saying like [ __ ] we never would have saw him. [ __ ] wouldn't hurt. >> Oh yeah. You wouldn't have saw that much of him. >> Yeah, saw that much of he a rugby guy though. He he run through a wall for you. Like that he look like >> he was running on fumes, [ __ ] They was like, bro, like what? It's like he didn't have he's not conditioned to play 30 minutes >> and he just went balls out. Like even when he was tired, he just dove anyway. >> Yeah. >> Where it was like he don't have nothing in the tank, my dog. Like he had to go to the hospital after that. Then woke up from passing out with the IVs. Woke up, figured out where he was, and was like, "Man, I got to get some rest for the game tomorrow." They like, "Brother, you're not playing." Like, you know. >> Well, it's got to make it way everywhere, don't it? >> Come on, man. We got to get everybody together. I just need everybody to go outside. All right. >> Hey, quick question for you. >> We need everybody to go outside. Come on, man. >> Who you think going to win in the grill all flower? >> 85 days. [ __ ] is y'all doing? >> Say you don't want to be on camera, but I don't give a [ __ ] >> What's up, [ __ ] >> Ladies, five day, man. You feeling good? >> What's up, family? You good? My >> pleas for sure. >> Los for sure. I like her. I actually like the way she sound. We got to go outside, bro. Why you look autistic, man? You okay? Oh, Los, for all those people that don't know, this is Chad. It's social security number. >> But yeah, like [ __ ] should [ __ ] should have got two rings out that [ __ ] >> Yeah, but KD KD bogus for that. He knew what it was. He he bogus. He knew. Honestly, the reason he bogus is cuz they sent him home. Like if he would have just did it. All right. Y'all was beating them 3-1. They came back beat y'all and then you gonna join them. If you can't beat them, join them. >> Look at >> that's how I felt like Yeah. I felt like KD like do you know the list of hoopers? Like do you realize your the name that you had on this list that I would have been like that is alltime hooper dog? like he'll backpack you, pick you up >> anywhere and hoop with the youngest kids, the old, he don't care. He's a certified hooper >> and he want to play against the best in the world. When I was like, you joined the best. Is this a USA team? >> I just felt away. I'm like I it was weird when I first got to Cleveland cuz I was playing with Melo. >> So that's your arch enemy. Y'all got a personal relationship. I don't know this [ __ ] Braun. M yeah, >> I was saying all type of [ __ ] to Brian to where I didn't know how Bronn was going to respond to me when I joined the team. >> Turns out Bronn was like, I want you to crash out. Just do it on somebody else. I'm sticking like I don't want to deal with. >> So like it was like if I'm on your team, I'm I'm talking [ __ ] like this my man's [ __ ] man. [ __ ] him >> type [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But I I start the game like that. I ain't going to lie. That's how I get down. That's how I get myself going. Like >> I see Jojo [ __ ] Oh, shorty. I I see Jojo come out there. I'll be like, "All right, man. I got I guess I got home girl with the heels." The [ __ ] They be like, "What you talking about, bro?" Like, "She got heels on. Don't know why she wore them bitches." Like >> just talking [ __ ] >> Talking [ __ ] immediately. Be like, "What inches though? You probably can't even walk in the hot inch joints, huh?" Oh, well, that would make you a stripper. Do you strip? Do you like I want you to be blue. I want you to say, "Fuck you immediately so that my blood >> [ __ ] you talking about?" >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> Out the gate. Yeah. >> Do them boys talk [ __ ] like that now, man? >> I don't know. >> I don't think >> Antman do. >> That's the only one. >> He talk [ __ ] but Ant-Man don't talk like I don't think he talk demon until in the playoffs. He do get disrespectful. He get disrespectful. >> But uh >> Yeah. Yeah. He get he get on [ __ ] in the playoffs. But >> during the season though, it's not as bad. I don't think it's as bad as how it was. They they just >> they just nicer guys. Luca talks nice [ __ ] I feel like he's a nice [ __ ] talker. >> Who Who was some of the best [ __ ] talkers you seen like when you were playing? >> Paul Pierce. >> Kevin Garnett. Keep going. >> Uh uh Kendrick Perkins. >> Nice. >> Uh but I'm talking about [ __ ] I'm talking about >> Yeah, that's Oh yeah, but I just bos >> uh who else talk a a lot of [ __ ] Um Quinn Richardson talk a lot of [ __ ] >> Uh >> yeah, man. Uh. Uhhuh. >> That Detroit team. She when he was gone. >> Well, she uh she was on my team the second, so he was part of the [ __ ] talking. We did. >> Um Joe Kim Noah talked a lot of [ __ ] >> Oh, hell yeah, he did. Yes, he did. Wild [ __ ] too. >> Yes, he did. >> Real. >> Yeah, he he'll say some wild [ __ ] Uh yeah, there's some guys that >> CP he'll talk a little bit of [ __ ] Rond will talk some [ __ ] >> Cuz >> Demarcus Cousin talk a lot. >> Hell yeah. >> But Cuz talk [ __ ] about like the plays. Like if you hit him, he'll call you a [ __ ] for hitting him. >> You know what I'm saying? He don't really start off like >> I I really don't even got to guard you to talk [ __ ] >> Nice. I got you. >> I'm not even going to give you your name. Like I know who you are. I'll be like, "Hey, turn around." They'll be like, "What?" Well, I'm trying to see the name on your jersey. Can you just turn around, bro? What? >> They'll be like, "This nigga's a rookie." Like, I don't like this [ __ ] Like, I want that immediately. Like, don't like, >> but [ __ ] remember that [ __ ] though. >> Oh, I used to get under [ __ ] skin and then I really was like super athletic. So, it's like I'll say some wild [ __ ] and then really take the bomb. I told you he a [ __ ] Take he'll just let me take his gun. You ain't even got one. You How you going to shoot with no gun? >> You need your gun, [ __ ] You say and they'll be like, "What is he talking about?" Whatever. Like, [ __ ] And some [ __ ] don't even like that [ __ ] anyway. So be like, "Bitch, >> I I personally don't like bitch." But I say, "But I'll say it though." >> Hold on. We could We could talk [ __ ] but >> real talk. Keep it. It's a lot of [ __ ] that say that too. They be like, "Hey, let's keep it hoop. >> Hey, let's keep it." >> That way you know you got him. >> Oh bro. Like you go. >> Oh yeah. You better keep it hoop. But there's some people that be like, "Hey, we could go to the back." Like we could get them on too. Like you know who's funny as hell? Jimmy Butler. Uh Jimmy Butler one of the only. He done f me. Uh JR don't f me. But like people that's like passionate. We can call each other a [ __ ] [ __ ] be like don't call me no more [ __ ] [ __ ] Like >> that's Jimmy Butler. Like yeah. You want to go to the back? We go to the back. Take these off. He going to put his cowboy boots on and he going to fight. Like he want to fight for real. Like I like him. I like him. That my guy. Shout out my boy Jimmy >> uh Texas. >> Jimmy from Texas. Oh yeah, boy. Them cowboy booty ain't black either. >> What? He'll wear diamonds, iced out things, shorty glasses. >> Yeah. >> V-neck, black V-neck, big ass belt buckle, some fat ass jeans of a brand that you ain't heard of. >> Yeah. >> With some patterns on the pockets and them cowboy boots, boy. >> Yeah. >> And be in the middle of the club for dead for real, sweaty. get the baddest thing in there if he wanted. I was like, "Shorty, you for this was before we had money." You know what I'm saying? So, I know he really get down like this when we got to the league and everybody like he Oh, no. Shorty, he really get down. >> That whole painting his nails and [ __ ] before the league. >> I'm like, bro, we was Yeah, we was in the grind together. This [ __ ] was getting his nails painted black. I'm like, "Bro, what you doing?" He like, "Sometimes I think about getting color, Sean." Like, Jimmy, stop [ __ ] playing. >> Yeah, for real, Jimmy. >> But he really was on that. He seen the cowboy uh not the cowboy songs, the country songs. He know all them [ __ ] >> He know him for real. I thought he was trolling. I know a couple. I could be funny. >> Yeah. >> But he know him like >> like I know the popular ones. >> No, he go to know the festivals and [ __ ] >> Oh, he go to the festivals. >> Yeah, he'll play it in the locker room. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. But yeah, >> you got to hear Jimmy. >> He a good [ __ ] talking too. Yeah, we got some good [ __ ] talkers in the league. I like good [ __ ] talking. >> I I think with now like these [ __ ] like >> they just nice guy. >> I guess. Yeah. It got to be the playoff for them to care. But I'm saying like you saying like going from Melo like how was that rivalry between like Melo and LeBron? >> It was only on the court. That's what was so cool about it. Like they had a mutual respect for each other. They got a bond off the court but it's like on the court they have no choice but to be arch enemies. Like y'all got to go against each other. Like y'all the two [ __ ] that can't play pickup together. >> It's like all right Melo over there, Braun over there. Like >> [ __ ] can't play on the same team. What do y'all think this is? like and it's like it's it's cool to know that that never really hindered their ability to be cool off the court. You know what I'm saying? Cuz >> for me I know it was a couple of [ __ ] that it's like to this day I don't have a relationship with them because we just have to go against each other, bro. It just that's how it has to be. And now we too grown. We got families and [ __ ] We ain't got time to figure it out now to be cool. But I'm like, [ __ ] I needed you. You needed me. I needed to hate you though. I needed to dog. I can't be all buddy buddy with you. When I first got there, I thought it was going to be awkward with me and Braun. He wasn't tripping. >> He like just do that psycho [ __ ] O'Neal, bro. That's all. That's all >> that same >> all that same [ __ ] you used to do. >> That pissed me off. >> Take it over there. >> Hell no. Don't stop. >> Turn that [ __ ] up. >> God damn. >> And I ain't going to lie, when he brought uh Timothy Mozoff and I had JR with me and that was also nerve-wracking for me. I thought that would [ __ ] up me and Jr.'s relationship cuz we wasn't playing on the same at the same time no more. >> We came in for each other. >> Oh, okay. >> And it start being whack. Like if I seen JR at the table, I lowkey had a little part of me die like damn, >> you know what I'm saying? That he'll do the same [ __ ] like I got you, bro. >> [ __ ] >> You know what I'm saying? Like it's awkward. Like I I got you gotta sit down. Switch be f you know what I mean? Usually it's like I check in and switch like finally [ __ ] Let's go. >> Thank you. Let's run. Yeah, let's run. Shump come. He going to get a steal. Broken play lob. Ah, let's get it. Like let's do that [ __ ] [ __ ] We got there. We had to come in for each other. >> I thought me and Swiss ain't going to be that cool no more. Now we in competition, bro. >> Yeah, >> I just knew it because >> like, yeah, the minutes got to >> it got to get something got to give, buddy. Somebody got to get that short end of that stick. I can't beat me. That's how we was thinking. But then uh Too actually just figured out a cool way to do it, bro. Sometimes it was offense, defense, sometimes it was this, sometimes it was that. But I never felt unimportant to the team. >> Yeah. Do he get the credit he deserve? >> No. And I be telling him, I'm like, every time I talk to him now, dog, I'll be like, "Bro, if I ever was a [ __ ] I'm sorry." Like I was just growing up for real. For real. Like I feel like, yeah, I did a lot of growing up on my own in life, but it's like I feel like you kind of got to grow up once you have money. Like I came in the league, I was a rookie. I didn't own [ __ ] Like I that was my first time owning things. I had a wife, you know what I'm saying? I had a different set of rules, different set of things on my mind. Like it was just different. And I'm like, I'm doing all this and taking direction from you in the prime of my career. You just got the job. >> Yeah. >> And you know what I'm saying? We have to win this year cuz LeBron's here. >> Yeah, >> it was it was Kyrie's team. He feel disrespected. He the number one pick. He like, I'm number one pick. Y'all just going to bring another number one pick and then I ain't [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> So, it's like we dealing with all these dynamics. >> So much going on where it's over [ __ ] heads like >> you see what I'm saying? I wish I could go back to just like turn it down a little bit cuz I I played with fire. But I I'm pretty sure Too knew this anyway. So, he like I'mma just let him I'mma just let him use it. like he didn't play me one game against Indiana and that next game in the playoffs they played me boy I was out there with so much energy on 10 I'm like you knew what you did folk just held me back like a dog whole game I ain't playing I'm steady every time [ __ ] do something wrong I'm looking [ __ ] you still ain't going to put me in [ __ ] [ __ ] got 30 I'm like I don't get to I'm like I'm rotation >> I was sick then [ __ ] put me in I'm like this [ __ ] might be a genius bro >> I had all the energy I ain't played >> that [ __ ] Kyrie Bro, like you know before that why I say you know like with certain teams you start watching like [ __ ] knew Kyrie Cahoot but now you seeing this [ __ ] you like >> bro this [ __ ] Kyrie a [ __ ] dog. So how that like how practice was cuz you would guard him in practice when you >> but me and Kyrie same class so like >> Oh you been? Yeah >> I knew Kyrie. >> Yeah, >> but me and Kyrie actually got cool during the lockout. We sitting by each other during the lockout. we realize we just we get down the same. You see what I'm saying? So, I honestly thought I was going to talk to Kyrie and he was going to be on some proper English [ __ ] like, >> "Hey, man." Like, you know what I mean? >> Cool as a mother. >> Yeah. I was like, "Oh, you from Jersey? All right. I So, I got it. You just went to Duke. You know what I mean? >> How do you think that happened though? >> You just like the khakis and the polo. How you think he end up at a Duke like that if if if he is you know cut from the same cloth >> cuz I'm telling you broach >> [ __ ] will look at Duke even with Coach K in that winning like tradition real [ __ ] ain't going to go to no Duke >> yeah they be feeling like Duke kind of holds them back like somebody's as >> highly toted as Kyrie I get what he's saying but >> I don't know Kyrie's probably just >> weird to me bro >> I never thought about that honestly >> because you think about every play cuz again it was a system with Coach K. Yeah. >> It wasn't an individual thing. >> Yeah. >> And I [ __ ] it might have worked out that a [ __ ] got hurt that whole year >> and you know and Coach K was having them one and done. >> I'm trying to see what I'm saying. >> You remember? >> Yeah. >> I I ain't >> but you be a goddamn fool if you saw Kyrie Irving play basketball and say he need to come back to school. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Goddamn fool. Yeah. >> When they was talking about it, I'm like gang, did you see the 11 games? >> Yeah. Are y'all seeing the 11 games? >> It's like the last week of the regular season and then some of the tournament some [ __ ] like that. >> I just I couldn't I just couldn't believe the combinations of drones that he does in the game. >> Like don't get me wrong, I've worked plenty of times on coming down going in and out tween behind the back behind the back with the skip. Spin off it. Step back, shot fake. Like it's like this some [ __ ] you do in front of a a bad [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> you real talk. Like if I'm playing my homie, I try all this. This [ __ ] will be running full speed and bust every move I just said. Full speed. But he doing it as people reaching and doing [ __ ] He just like you see somebody coming like if I seen somebody I'm dribbling and I see you here in my mind I'm going to take one dribble here your body's going to naturally freeze up cuz you like he going to run into me or you psycho and you going to foul me one of the two. But I'mma cut you off cuz I just need to get my left foot here cuz I'm going up there. I don't have time for this. This [ __ ] Kyrie sees this [ __ ] and be like, "Oh, I'm just stop on the dime. I know he can't stop." He stops. >> Maybe you stop back here. If you stop back here, he going to do something cute to go that way. He not going the same way he just made you go. But if you back or you stay up here, he'll do some wild [ __ ] Like instead of a simple cross that somebody else will do, he'll spin. And it's like, bro, I think that's how you have your knee. like when you got hurt like he puts so much force >> on everything he how he plays like this it's like bro it's reckless damn near but it's like it's the same >> but it's control though >> that's what I'm saying it's the same thing we do in the air somebody would think >> Iman you like before I got hurt I used to recklessly jump off one foot one leg I didn't care if I beat you there I can trust myself I'm going upstairs you can't go so [ __ ] it I'm going >> but it's like once I blew my knee out I had to start thinking You know what I'm saying? I'm like, [ __ ] I can't just rely on being athletic. But I'm like, none of my thoughts told me that when this [ __ ] happened, oh, we f to spin right here and then go through the legs and through the C. I'm Kyrie. >> Yeah, the [ __ ] out, bro. But that [ __ ] do eight moves on one possession, dog. Like, how do you have energy to play defense? >> That was eight regular season games before December 4th and came back to play three tournament games. >> Yep. And they was like, that'll be all. That's crazy. [ __ ] >> That's all we need to see. >> Yes, boy. You go that fast and do some of the [ __ ] that he doing, bro. If you can do that, bro, >> we need you to do that for as long as you can. So, why would you why would you even burn a couple of years down here? >> Well, honestly, now >> you can get a little money on. I'd have stayed in college all four years on NIL. >> N lie to you. I'd have been Waffle House shorty, >> man. >> You hear me? I'd have been sponsored by Waffle House. >> Come and get what we singing on the rap. You seen that Waffle House [ __ ] >> I ain't seen it. >> No, I ain't got a freestyle. That's >> Oh, the waffle house. I ain't never listen to a Welcome to the Waffy. >> It's a real Waffle House. >> Welcome to the Wyar City. >> [ __ ] snapping. >> Throw the basketball NIL. >> Throw the waffle house. the the the basketball NIL is just as lucrative as as NBA contracts right now. >> No, but it would have I would have got a degree. I would have had some money. >> Okay. >> I would have it gives you fin the reason why so many guys leave immediately is because one, you want your university to always uphold their end of the bargain on saying we're going to honor four years of education for you whether you leave early or not. But you go in thinking about it as uh uh I need to get to the NBA right now because we broke or my mom's rules. Yeah. She needs this now. >> So it's like I'm willing to leave my first year >> when it's like >> I could chill >> three years, >> learn a little bit, >> learn a little bit, get my body right for the NBA. >> You know what I'm saying? because I'm highly toaded now. I could probably work with NBA players. >> Mh. >> You know what I'm saying? And I can sort of feel my way out of saying, "Hey, man, let me try and I could damn near predict where I want to land. >> I'm going to be around this pick. These are the teams that are going to be. So, I'll be on a team that's chasing a championship." >> That damn uh >> I'm high on the list. I'm going to be on a terrible team. I'm going to be rebuild session. I know how to work out. Like, you know what I mean? >> The NIL for these the football is different though, boy. Because what's the deal? >> All these quarterbacks that are staying back for that extra year, it makes a lot of sense. >> They getting paid more than rookie quarterback. >> Carson Beck is like uh topping out at maybe two million, but Trinidad Charm is the one I'm I be telling that he should have left. >> He getting five or six. >> There's even players that's like leaving the league to go back to college. >> Oh yeah, the [ __ ] uh uh going to LSU. >> I heard about that. >> Got cut by the uh the Browns. And the Browns the Browns coach was ignoring Lane Kein's call >> cuz he was calling about that certain player, that particular player, >> and he was like, "Well, [ __ ] I should have picked up the phone cuz now I know why he was calling me." But yeah, for some >> Was he at LSU? He went back or >> he may have been at Old Miss with uh Lane. >> So he was at Old Miss with Lane Keifin. Went to the league. Uh was at training camp. There you go. >> Okay. was at training camp with the Browns and Lane Keifin was calling the Browns to get, you know, I guess intel on how he doing or whatever or I need to get in contact. I don't know why the [ __ ] he was calling, >> but yeah, man. They found some loophole where this [ __ ] can go back and play for LSU this year, >> bro. That that [ __ ] is slick. Unfoul. >> That shit's stupid. And then they he finished up his four years in college. I haven't So technically technically >> you have another year of eligibility. >> You can go back. >> Well, obviously Yeah. Go back. Only went three years. I hope they take it. >> Yeah. >> Please wear that number one jersey like you did before. >> Yeah. >> Get you a little run with the number one jersey. >> Yeah. I just want to go play a little back to the basket. I promise I would I promise I won't do that to y'all, son. Nothing crazy. I'll just go back to the basket. >> Our basketball program definitely needed. >> Just go do it. >> This [ __ ] is on a lifeline right now. >> Yeah, but that's what they that's what they're allowing. >> I know, but I'm a grown ass man. Like that's [ __ ] up. >> Well, yeah. Like y'all got homework and I got kids that got homework. >> But what um what year was this guy in like how many years was he in the league? Like >> no he went >> he was Yeah. So he didn't even technically he still he just left college >> because what's wild to me is all the reclassifications they have. They haveations that hold eligibility. So sometimes >> you'll have guys going into the league at like 26 to 27. Like that's what's scary to me where it's like even in the league it's like yeah you reclassified but even in the league you 27 dog like once you get here you only going to have three years. >> Yeah >> cuz then they going to be looking at you like >> wear and tear on your body is wear and tear. >> The only position >> especially in football >> the only position you got to pay attention to with that is the [ __ ] quarterback. >> These older quarterbacks come in [ __ ] balling cuz as experience you not the wear and tear that you talk about. We ain't the quarterback won't experience that as much and that's why you see like a bonix um a Mendoza being highly touted right now. >> Oh, I seen him the other day, man. >> He did [ __ ] though. >> Mendoza. I don't know. >> I'm tell the the his process and how he goes about being a [ __ ] professional. I'm willing to put some money down. When that [ __ ] number is called, he's going to do well. >> I think he's going to be something. It's going to be something similar to to what Bo Nick is doing. But that's that's that's that's a lot of pressure on him because I ain't going to lie to you, bro. As much as I hate Shawn Payeyton, that [ __ ] is a great coach. >> So, I think that's one of that that's just worked out perfectly for Bo Nicks. But I think Mendoza gonna be all right. >> Yeah. >> Him and Carson Big and I know you don't like me saying that [ __ ] >> No, >> you said him. What? >> Carson Big. >> Oh, >> quarterback from Georgia. >> He's old, bro. He done played 50 [ __ ] games. Like that experience, man. It adds up at quarterback, >> huh? >> No. No. No. Arizona. >> No. >> God damn. >> Yeah, [ __ ] He 40. He came back. >> Yeah, that [ __ ] come back, bro. It's It ain't no >> football show. >> Just basketball. >> Straight to it, >> bro. Our paths never crossed either. I That's That's That's why we ain't got no crazy stories any even though we went to the same school. >> Only Yeah. The only time I uh >> you count on one hand how many times I seen him. >> Only time we ever saw the football player. Well, my best friends at Tech both used to they loved football. >> So they girls they they >> Alice Montgomery Bing [ __ ] wrong. >> Yeah, they love football. Like >> but I'm talking about like you know Saturday I had early practice. >> Yeah. I'm really just trying to chill today. They in my room. Get dressed. I'm What the [ __ ] I'm going to bed for an hour and then we can go out and do something. They like no we going to the game. Like we got to be at uh tailgating. I'm like tailgating >> Yellow Jacket Alley, >> you feel me? But I ain't know nothing about it. The first time I did it, I was like wow. Yeah. >> Hey, I was at the tech game like, "Bro, this is lit. They got a real production." I'm like, "We don't have as big as a production >> as them." And they like, "Yeah, they bring in a lot of money." Like, they like the boosters for football are way different than basketball. Like, and I was like trying to process all that, but I had to really take that in. But it's crazy cuz I end up getting cool with Dearius Thomas cuz Taco dated him. And then >> that's after me. Yeah. Baby. >> Baby. Yep. And then uh Pet Gang. And then um uh uh Morgan. >> Yeah. They ran neck and neck. So you had to [ __ ] with Josh Nesb. >> Yeah. Nit. I mean I thought they was all cool. I just had >> and for so long they was low-key like a little bit slick into it with some of the basketball players over some girls in previous years. >> But they was like, "Huh?" >> Yeah. >> No, that I hate I hate that. >> Oh. Oh, I thought you were saying no, it didn't have to say. Yeah. Yeah. They had I guess they had little ruffle feathers where they weren't really talking to each other and [ __ ] So when I got there, I was just trying to chill and do, you know, regular young [ __ ] You know what I'm saying? They caught me doing some [ __ ] I wasn't supposed to be doing. I'm like, "Oh, the only reason you call me you, y'all that." You see what I'm saying? Y'all know that. You feel me? But I'm I'm I'm laughing with them. And my I remember my teammates coming like, "Man, like what you doing over there with them?" Like they I'm relax. >> Yeah, that's what I'm going like I ain't see nothing wrong with them. You see what I'm saying? And it was like they kind of like settled down. But then Bay Baby was telling me like, "Nigga, I don't know what they got going on on their side. We don't care." >> Yeah. >> Like, and then that was it. After that, I was like, "They always good." I used to come to their game. I'll be jumping up and down. They used to come to our games, be talking [ __ ] in the stands. They used to be getting rowdy with people and [ __ ] But that was it was cool. Like, everybody supported everybody for real. For real. But you're right. I I never >> I never used to see a lot of people on campus, Joe. I used to just go to class, sit my ass down, >> I do my work and [ __ ] I used to be first bolting to the gym. >> I did all my clothes, bro. >> I had clothes. I washed everything. Like I think my dirty clothes hamper like in college that [ __ ] would probably never got past here. >> Like as soon as I done I damn near was probably wearing the same draws and socks because immediately cuz I'm going to the gym every night. I'm putting all my clothes that I see in there. I'm putting them in the little the little uh netted mesh bag >> and putting all of it in there. I'm tossing that in. >> You said that [ __ ] was excited about being a college student >> for real. That was what I'm thinking. Look, we get that. I'm like free Gatorade. >> We at Power, my man. >> Come on. You know what it is. >> Free Power Pepsi products. I'm like >> all that muscle milk getting swollen. They give me Gatorade shakes and I'm just taking that [ __ ] back, man. We go to the uh to the gym. We got they like, "Yeah, if y'all want to do your uh laundry and stuff, you could just knock it out." I'm like, "I could do my laundry." I'm like, "My key work all night." I'm taking girls in the locker room. They doing my clothes. Coach, you were mad at me. What? I used to get all type of trouble. Boy, I have. They be like asking them girls like how they got in there. They like, "Iman told us to wash his clothes in here." But they looking like where y Where y'all [ __ ] coming from? It's like these my teammates. They throw off. Coaches mad. coaches mad at me. They like, "You can't turn everything into the club." I used to have girls on the sideline. Like, we a leader club. I used to feel like I'm cheating myself. I was out all night. Them [ __ ] getting better than me. >> We taking the girls to the [ __ ] gym. Yeah. Like I went out and that was one of the best nights ever. Joe went out with Ton Wayne uh was on tour. >> Wayne bet on me against uh North Carolina. I go off 30 piece immediately. He was hyped as hell. Like [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] Like >> after the club, we just talking [ __ ] and [ __ ] on this bus. And one of his homies get to talking [ __ ] Then Mac get to talk [ __ ] Like [ __ ] I'm betting on shots, [ __ ] Like we go play right now. Like you know what I'm saying? Sh. What can we hoop at? I'm so hyped. I'm like Lil Wayne come to the gym, y'all. >> Good [ __ ] man. >> I'm the boy. I got the gym. Pull it. pulled the tour bus up, Joe. >> Yeah. >> Before we walked in the gym, probably about 30 people, Joe. Two smoking all time. You know what I'm saying? Like they they smoking this and [ __ ] I get why they were mad, but it was just like, >> you get what I'm saying, man? Like you think like, [ __ ] I'm lit. >> What? Yeah. I'm like, great story. I love that. I'm like [ __ ] like this is young money like young >> time little Wayne I'm talking about this a mill >> bro I'll never forget we we at compound >> shorty when I meet him I I go up there meet with I'm he was like meet me before cuz you know once we walk in I ain't going to be able to look out for you and [ __ ] you know what I'm saying like just meet me before you >> still be like that >> yeah but you know you ain't 21 you know how it You know how I go. So >> he like, "Yeah, just walk in with me." I'm like, "All right, bet." I go meet in the little corner and [ __ ] They got security and everything. I'm like, "What the [ __ ] you [ __ ] collecting in this little corner? I'm f to tell a joke and shit." >> Yeah, shorty on the other side of the bus. We turn. I had never seen that many [ __ ] cameras, my [ __ ] I'll never forget it. Ah, back up cuz you ain't even a He supposed to be out. I supposed to be here. You hear me? Um, Coach Hu see this. I'm over with. I'm running. We running a miss practice. Guaranteed. Shuty. Move back. Oh [ __ ] He turned a corner. I was like, wow. I've I don't think I've ever been around a superstar. Like I was like I I realized it all in one moment. Like I've never seen that many people care to take a picture of one person. >> I'm like he's walking. >> That's it. That's it. >> They had that moment >> and it was at least 30 cameras. The flashes was going crazy. It was like so many flashes. I'm like, I see why they wear shades. Like, you can't see. >> I was like, [ __ ] Then I'm ducking out the way. I'm like, please don't put me on no pictures. Please. And now thinking back on it, coach. You wouldn't have seen that [ __ ] Ain't no Instagram. >> We was low. I was low. I could have been in the [ __ ] He wasn't going on media takeout, [ __ ] That's all that was around. >> The hard way, >> huh? >> They knew every move you [ __ ] made. >> Oh, for sure they did. For sure. Yeah, >> I'm telling you the hard way. >> But he wouldn't have known that I was with Wayne at that time from the picture. >> He would have knew cuz he sent a spy to the club that I'm telling they did every every [ __ ] spot. >> But you want to know what's wild? >> Somebody was there. >> This is what's wrong about a college coach. >> They act as like dads. >> Because my father knew a lot of times when I was doing something I wasn't supposed to be doing. And sometimes he was there and didn't tell me he was there. >> Or like you ever did some [ __ ] with your or you doing some [ __ ] and then you got into a jam and you you called your your pop or your mom and they just got there like way too quick where it's like [ __ ] that's the quickest. It's like they knew you was doing some dumb [ __ ] They was right around the corner. >> Parents be parents. >> You see what I'm saying? I feel like college coaches do that for you. Whereas >> the good ones >> Yeah, the good ones do. Like I feel like we had that though, [ __ ] We definitely had that. But it was like, "Yeah, you can't just be doing nothing too regular." But we walked around the corner and Wayne had all them people like that. And I just remember being like, "Wow, he a real star." After the game, he argued and we was arguing talking about basketball and they said they wanted to go to the gym and I'm like, "Thank you." You know what I'm saying? I feel like I've been cheating myself all night. >> After the club is crazy. >> I want them to take pictures of me. I'm in I'm in the gym playing hard as hell, Joe. No [ __ ] We played 32. We was playing ones. Like I was in the gym till like 3 in the morning. >> Yeah. >> Coach, you was mad as [ __ ] >> But you got to think >> whole gym smell. >> [ __ ] as a as a college student, >> [ __ ] I'm sitting here playing with my favorite rapper, >> bro. >> Facts. >> You said how I get caught. >> Yeah. >> Cuz they had every time we scan to get in >> they was the last one. >> Yeah. >> And it smell like me. >> It was always >> the one in there. Like they knew I was going to the gym all the time, but they had cameras and everything. >> Oh yeah. >> They probably was like, "Did you take a cone >> and hold the door open, take a chair, hold the other door open and try and air this [ __ ] out? That's what you tried to do?" >> Damn, that sound smart at the time. >> It When you a dumb ass college kid that been drinking with a superstar and you really in over your head, you do think you just doing it. I think I'm smart as hell. I'm like, "Yeah, I'mma do this. I probably >> I probably sprayed some freze >> that [ __ ] make it worse. >> I probably did. I probably did. But it was like it was so like it was so needed. It was like bro that that was like >> that's a great memory to have that Young Money was in the gym at Georgia Tech. >> Uh and then Boo started coming up there. Boo from Boo and Gotti, you know, he from the crib though, but he was with Young Money. He he used to come up there all the time with me cuz he always was I knew him with made men. So it was like uh >> he would come up there and work out with me for real. Like no I ain't got to shoot. We ain't got to play oneonone. Sometimes you just need to shoot. But he like let's do but he start seeing like it used to tick. It was like a tick for me if I'm hanging out with them and I ain't hooked. >> Like it be like what the like [ __ ] I don't hang with [ __ ] Like you know what I'm saying? Like after a while I'll be like, "All right, let me get my shots up or something. Let me work on something and feel like I accomplished something. Now I can hang out with you." >> I used to do something with the clubs, too. And >> Huh. He used to host parties a lot. >> Yeah. >> Hell yeah. >> Big time. >> Boo. Yeah. Boo. Got all the time. They was hosting something. >> Yeah. >> Especially once Kel's had them [ __ ] on that Fiesta. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. All right. That >> they're my dogs though, man. Oh, but Lil Wayne, bro, he got a little standout kicker over at Gainesville High School going crazy. He's a kicker. He's a He's a kicker for uh um Gainesville here in Georgia. >> Gainesville just lost to Buford. >> Well, that's you know that's a [ __ ] national ranked powerhouse. >> Yeah, they >> Gainesville is the right. >> Yeah. Hold on. Wait a minute. I don't know. You light skin? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Got a sister. >> Oh, okay. >> I just know it's Lil Wayne's son. >> 25 yd attempt here. Dwayne Carter made his first one and makes his second one. >> Yeah, I think it's Tony. >> What I was going to say on your cuz how you we were talking about Michael Jordan. It made me think about do you ever put anybody before Michael Jordan when it come to basketball? >> No, >> not for me. >> Yeah. Like people always do this whole debate like I think that when you talk about greatness and you talk about basketball, I think it is better to put LeBron in the slot. You know what I'm saying? But when you ask somebody like me who's the best player, it's like it's nothing, LeBron. It's nothing you could do. I just wasn't five watching you. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I didn't want the Bulls to win so bad. Like I was in tears, [ __ ] Like I was a child and this [ __ ] wouldn't let me lose. >> I done watched the whole arena clear out. This game is over and this [ __ ] bring us back and we win. >> Like I watched it too. I'm like bro this [ __ ] is like half my childhood dog. >> Yeah. >> And y'all are asking me to put my teammate above him. I'm like I would have played whether I met LeBron or not. >> Cuz of Mike. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? I can see the child now >> probably look at it like I don't see how the [ __ ] y'all looking at Michael Jordan like this. Like I'm like LeBron play how he play cuz Michael Jordan existed. >> There you go. >> You get what I'm saying? Same way Magic existed before. You know what I mean? Like that's just how it go. >> Like every generation have >> we're going to get better and better cuz we're practicing what they did grown. They figured it out and finally got it to this level and we going to take it further cuz we going to learn that at five. that's standing on the shoulders of giants, gentlemen and ladies, >> man. >> But Jojo like what I be saying with this like what the [ __ ] Michael Jordan was doing, nobody was ever doing that [ __ ] at the time. So it's like >> what's funny is he made it look so easy >> that people is dumb enough. I see people all the time be like if if Michael Jordan did it, you guys would think that was just so cool. Michael Jordan just does easy stuff. I'm like hey bro, I know what it must look like. But I don't think people realize that he had to dribble the ball and p he could palm that [ __ ] off of a dribble >> and literally pick his poison on how if I could you've seen how I jump. If I could palm a ball, I'm Vince Carter >> cuz how the [ __ ] can you stop my dunk? You can't. Especially half the league when I first got in there cuz I'm like [ __ ] >> cuz you was about to do the dunk. >> I'm young as hell. I hurt my knee. >> Yeah, I remember. >> It's like [ __ ] if if I had big ass hands I'd be un that's why Kawhi Leonard. He just don't dunk a lot. But it's like if I go to the rim a bump don't matter. Nothing matters >> cuz I'm still have control of >> you won't let me know when you ready to go down and then I'm going put this [ __ ] on your head. Like that's why people start doing the, you know, the business decision. That's what we call it. You make a business decision. Don't jump at that. >> Get out of the way. >> Jump got two feet in the lane. Just just let him don't do it. We don't got time for him to shoot a free throw. The crowd go crazy potentially. >> Momentum. Momentum. >> Yeah. We ain't got time for this. We got to call timeout. No, let him just dunk that. Like, but Mike used to do some miraculous [ __ ] And it's like it's why the game has evolved to what it has. >> Hanging in the air. Like the [ __ ] could have that time when he could have just laid that [ __ ] up. Yeah, bro. >> Like this the nasty [ __ ] >> That one that Hold on. That was a good a meaningful game. Thank you. Yeah. >> Against the Lakers. >> Was no regular season [ __ ] >> Oh. >> Yeah. We seen him do stuff we ain't never seen done. So >> yeah, that at the time. >> Yeah. So for us it's like >> you see Kyrie do it and you like Kyrie [ __ ] was more advanced. Kyrie saw Mike do it. >> Yeah. >> He learned from God Sham God. Like a lot of people don't know who God Sham God is. >> Yeah. Like godamn god is a [ __ ] Like that's his that's his what you call it. >> Huh? >> Where? >> Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh he he he got to learn. You go out here and and develop certain tendencies that your favorite players, they had these things that they do, but it's like we can morph it because we're doing it at a young age like we can unlock something. >> We start unlocking but nobody else was doing it. >> So we got different eras. MJ, LeBron, then who you think is like I'm saying like you got MJ and then you got LeBron and then who you think is coming up like for the next era or the next generation? >> That's what I'm saying. That's not how this go. >> No, >> that's not how this go. >> How it go? >> You saying like who's >> I think she's saying '9s. >> Face of the league. You saying >> I mean like Yeah. >> You're just talking about the face of the league. >> 2000. Yeah. So, who's the next? >> When we're talking about the greatest ever, like >> the 80s didn't have an offering. >> Not like the greatest ever, but like, you know what I'm saying? Like certain generations are just not going to have an offering at the greatest ever. >> Okay. >> [ __ ] come once every 100. >> You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't just get >> you don't just get greatest ever. You can have the best of the league, the face of the league. If that's what we talking about, Wimi. >> Okay. >> But the next to do the great [ __ ] No, you just got to do the great [ __ ] We don't even know who is who it is. Your resume just starts stacking. Then you look up. But [ __ ] was saying Michael Jordan was the best player when he retired the first time. >> He don't No, he's unbeaten in the final. >> He got a ring. >> Like, yeah, bro. >> You hear how [ __ ] was talking about the [ __ ] >> three beat twice. >> He never lost in the final. >> Yeah, twice. >> He go left. The nigga's quote was, "When I lose the sense of motivation to prove something as a basketball player, it's time for me to leave the game of basketball." In translation, you [ __ ] suck. >> You're not challenging me enough, and I think I'm just going to leave and play something that's harder. And went and played baseball. >> Yeah. >> And then decided, you know what? He just went and played one-on-one with BJ Armstrong. He was just shooting around joking. They just joking around and he like, "You know what? I missed this." Came back and won three more. >> God, that's crazy. >> That's the wildest [ __ ] I dog. It's just so I'm so mad that Mike wasn't born a little bit later so I could play against him. >> You done met him before? >> Yeah, I know Mike. >> How that [ __ ] was meaning? >> Awesome. >> Hey, cuz No, some [ __ ] they were like, "Bro, it's the bro, it's that >> freeze up." >> Yeah, they were like, "It's a oral cry that [ __ ] get. It's uh it's only a few people that you got to know where like you ever there's certain people you get around them and you have to know where they're at in the room >> and then there's people that they're all going to let you know where he is. >> I played a high school game >> killing. We play a high school game. Game just started and went probably a quarter in. Michael Jordan walks in cuz his son's playing. They didn't give a [ __ ] about our game no more. >> Just watching that [ __ ] >> The refs watching >> everybody till he sat down. The game didn't start. >> [ __ ] traveling like a [ __ ] >> The whole game. >> The ref watching Mike. >> That's what I'm saying, >> dog. No [ __ ] The whistle happened. We noticed who it was walking in. >> Yeah. >> They gave an ovation. All type of [ __ ] I'm like, "Nigga, this is a active game right now and not one person in here has a problem with this man disrupting it." Like, he had to like shuffle, get in the middle of the bleaches where he wanted to sit for his son game. Like, it was like a a big thing, but it's like I also realized he can't come in the beginning of the game. He'd have [ __ ] up the whole vibe. >> Thanks. >> So, he has to surprise you >> and then you got to like deal with that. Like after he sat down, we like I had to geek a little bit. Like I'm like, >> you know, Mike had Mike at my game. >> But I'm playing his son though. Like Mark is looking like, "All right, dance here." >> Yeah. You know, >> [ __ ] my dad. Damn. My dad had to come watch me play. >> I'm like, "Oh, >> damn. >> You got like you got like different pairs of every Jordan. Like you got like stuff. >> For real though, that's the type of [ __ ] was going through my mind. And I'm like, Michael Jordan is here, bro. >> I get to looking at his son shoes and everything like, damn, he just got so your name on all your shoes and [ __ ] Like, you know what I mean? I ain't say it to him, but that's >> some whiny and [ __ ] >> What got you into acting? >> [ __ ] Lena wa Lena asked me uh if I would do it. I had did a couple reads for some [ __ ] because people was like, "You should do some shit." And I was like, "Yeah, I'd love to." >> But I wasn't like going to acting school and doing all that. And then Lena was like, "Would you really lean into it?" And then she would allow me to work with the acting coach. >> Yeah. >> Uh when I was filming the show and I did it and I was like, "This is cool." Like, >> and then being on the shot like being from Chicago, you ain't got to switch up no lingo. >> Yeah. Not lingo. They they definitely liked it more without like I can't all the way talk like me. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Cuz you didn't. >> Huh. >> You wasn't. >> I know. is cuz you have to >> I have to allow the character to be whoever he is. >> Yes. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I have to show there's parts of me that can like how I get mad might show well on camera. So yes, I'm going to be Iman and getting mad. But if dude just don't give it up like me as far as the accent, I had to consciously make myself annunciate. >> Yeah. Cuz Rob was a he he wasn't a Yeah. And he wasn't like a street [ __ ] his mama had money. So it's like when you really got that accent, we ain't that's unbelievable. Like you know what I'm saying? So I get what you saying. >> But I'm I'm saying like for me like I really ain't a like project kid. Like it ain't no [ __ ] like that. I have both my parents everything. I just talk how I talk. This is how everybody talk where I'm from. Yeah. This how we talk. >> That just that like somebody being in Atlanta saying shouting and stuff like that. >> Yeah. Yeah. It's like you ain't got to be from no [ __ ] up to talk like this. Like it just is what this how we talk. Everybody top to bottom. But it was like on the show I got to be conscious of it and [ __ ] and I had to learn how to like >> cuz I I done did plenty of scenes where it's like I read the line but I'm like oh in Chicago though we say this so I'mma you know what I mean? They ain't using that [ __ ] like cut >> like that. >> Say this. >> Can you just give me the line? >> Just the lie. You know what I'm saying? Oh man. Joe, can you not don't add Joe? >> Yeah. >> Let's take the Joe out. >> Like Joe is they shouting. >> Yeah. >> Take that out. >> Everybody average Joe. What's up Joe? >> Gotcha. >> You ain't got to know nobody name. Joe [ __ ] Like what? Charlie. >> They say G. That's outside for real. >> Okay. >> What's up G? >> Damn G. Yeah, cuz they really saying GD with the gang. >> Damn. Appreciate it. But I was saying though, you got to think, especially now, like especially now gang culture in Chicago, it's like some people are just grandfathered in where it's like they don't gang bang. They don't care to do none of that, but it's like they daddy went down doing that [ __ ] And of course they gonna be proud about whatever they That's what people don't a lot of people don't take that into consideration that it's like there's a lot of people that might have a flag or whatever. But it's like if you wake up out the womb dog and this is all you >> this all you know this all Yeah. >> What if you just like blue now? You know, like what if you just like if your whole your whole city is black and red >> and your gang is they wear red flags >> and you grew up with all of them and it's like you are a good kid. Like I'm a great kid. It's just these is my this my blood family, you know. >> [ __ ] >> It's all and this red look cool, [ __ ] Look. >> I'm just around this every day all day. >> Real talk. That's being from Chicago. That was so much for me. I was so nervous to go to Cali. I'm like, "Bro, I wear black and red all the time." Like, I ain't know they was that serious. I thought it was a joke. >> [ __ ] >> And they like, "No, it's that serious." >> Everything means something. Like all the hats, like it could be like a Florida Marlin hat. [ __ ] >> you hear about that tragic thing with the high school football player. He was from Oh, no. Uh Texas >> was visiting some family. >> Had a Houston Astro Astros hats on or hat on. >> You know, they got the star with the with the H in the middle. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They and not even outside. They shot the car. >> What? >> Yeah. >> Thinking it was somebody else. >> You know what it is? Yeah. >> That's crazy. >> The H is for the >> Yep. >> Hoovers. >> Yeah. >> That's That's a sad ass story, bro. >> Yeah. >> But people do show. >> After you started acting, then you uh got linked up with doing the Country Wayne skits. How that was? >> Oh yeah. Wayne, that my boy. >> Yeah. >> Uh that was cool, man. cuz it's like, you know, I got so sick of people people do this thing where they're like, "Oh, you're on this network, so you made it now." >> And I'm like, I think it's very strange for people to want to make it more than make money. >> Mhm. Say that again. >> Like you you want to make it and like it >> is fame. >> Yeah. No, >> [ __ ] don't even know what that look like. I'm like, "Bro, I've been on TV for like because they're putting you on TV, they actually are giving you less money." >> Boy, say that. >> Feel like they're paying you an exposure. >> Come on, bro. >> Yeah. They like, "Bro, we you on our platform. >> You know what time it is? Come on. You know how many people watch this? Where the [ __ ] money?" >> Straight up. >> You want to see the [ __ ] >> But people have that in their mind. So, it's like I could really get paid something where I'm like, man, this ain't no real money, but it's power. I don't want to use power cuz I heard they be they be breaking people off and getting people right. So I ain't gonna I wasn't trying to I was just of a show. >> But [ __ ] it. We could use power because this this promo for them. Yeah. If y'all need me >> straight up. >> Just saying. >> I could live in that power universe. Um >> the force. >> But uh bro, >> but um >> yeah. [ __ ] I just lost my thought. Um >> because they see you on power, they >> Oh, yeah. because they see you on Power, they'll be like, "Bro, like it's going so good." And it'll be like, "Bro, Power could have just gave me a $500 check for that." >> Mhm. >> Well, I'm getting 500. I'm like, "Bro, I you know how much I used to make a game?" Like, bro, >> yeah, that's So, in my mind, I used to be feeling like that. And with Country Wayne, I was like, "Bro, how are you able to pay that many actors all month?" Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, this system that you figured out is now generating more money than having to go and get a third party that will be willing to put the money behind a project but take so much of the profit that you're stuck in a contract for >> you know what I'm saying? Like he don't have to stop or actually keep going at all. Like he good >> man. That universe so big with them. But >> he take himself and just keep pouring it back into more skits. Like most people would get that money >> faithfully. >> Most people will get that money though and you start enjoying it a little bit. He take it and just put it back in >> that uh they not to sidebar but they got like three four episodes a day. >> More than that boy. What >> they post every 15 minutes. It's a new one. Get He done posted about how long we been the [ __ ] >> what? >> Yeah, that man done posted probably about 50 60 skits while we've been in here. >> Every day I believe they post uh >> country. >> I believe it's like I think they're up to like 200 something posts a day. >> Ernestine they they in >> Ernestine. Yeah. >> Like it's so many like >> series going on with you could be following this story. Yeah. And then now you just seeing other [ __ ] >> Damn. >> I I've seen like clips and stuff. I I never actually >> But it's like in >> say for instance, you know how people got they >> it's just people that's all they watch. They don't watch TV. They watch the Country Wayne World. >> So it be a fan base. You done got a fan base just from that. >> Yeah. It's a sitcom. >> Where you watching at? >> On his Facebook. >> They got his page. Facebook. >> It's on Facebook. So, go to Facebook to really watch it. But they'll post the clips on YouTube. You can get it on other platforms, >> but if you want to keep up, you have to follow his Facebook. >> Okay. >> But it it's raw because in my mind, I'm like, this is like he just innovative as [ __ ] to know, especially with what I was going through. I'm like, I'm the perfect move. I don't talk. I don't do this, I don't do that. And Wayne could just go crazy with the character. You know what I'm saying? But it's cool because like it's like I didn't realize it was like that, but it's like, bro, it's really believable. Like, >> you know what I'm saying? Like the the way he put it together, it just like I see why people sometime really do be asking me like, "Man, where's Shayla?" like, "Man, come on. >> Where's she at?" I swear for God, sweaty, for the longest they I swear to God, for the longest I be getting asked like like Delicia like where she at in your house right now like why we don't never see her when you woo woo and I'm like bro we must be this is a good thing. Yeah, I like that. >> But it was a world before I even got there. Like that's what I think is so cool. Like I'm so humbled to be cuz I get it that people be like, "Man, a a basketball player wouldn't do that." You know what I'm saying? Or he's on hard times if he doing that. And in my mind, I'm like, "Y'all have no clue what this [ __ ] got going cuz Wayne might be too smart for his own good." >> He told me one day that because he got the country accent, people don't realize he actually smart. He like, "I might not be able to articulate it like you." He like, "But I swear I could get it done for." >> He funny as hell though, man. You know what? Do a sick on Facebook from the phone. >> That's crazy. >> Smartest [ __ ] going. >> So you got to think well all them networks what they got to do camera then they turn around edit. >> He don't even edit. Yeah. >> He don't even edit. He shoot one shot. >> He stopped that [ __ ] at three minutes. He said he'll he But you know what's so dope about country and I say this the [ __ ] sit down and tell the game like he ain't like gate. He tell you what he doing. >> It's not about that though. >> Yeah. >> It's not about if he told you what he doing. people been doing this. It's just they can't write it. >> What I realized is we don't understand like you know how we watch a show and we'll be like I don't even see why that mother want number one. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I don't even see how they doing this or why they doing that. They should have did this or they should have did that. But it's like they already got us cuz we watched it. >> Yeah. >> Invested. >> That's why they wrote it like that. >> They f to watch another episode. They sit in rooms and really think about that cuz it's like if it don't spark them type of convers why would the character not do this this >> obvious >> that's what it's all about. Can we start these conversations and make that live on for as long >> man watching that little [ __ ] >> calling it [ __ ] and you watching that lock watching it [ __ ] man >> you be focus they doing that >> next episode >> next episode going I swear that's how I start watching batties. Shout out Natalie N, man. That's where one of my friends came over. She like, "Hey, we need to watch baddies. You You got Zeus." I like, "Hey man, stop playing with me, Joe. I'm thinking this," you know what I'm saying? I'm like, I thought that was like some internet [ __ ] Like, you had to go on the internet or I ain't know how they was watching it, honestly. I ain't know. >> And they turned it on, dog. I watched one episode, somebody teeth got knocked off. I said, "Oh, yeah. Sign me up." >> Yeah. Now, now you got that. >> I'm locked in. >> [ __ ] When the new season come out. >> Yeah. I started off like that where I was like I like y'all watching this. They just doing a bunch of arguing, man. So unproductive. [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] Oh. Oh. Hey. Hey. Run it back. I a seed that some fights. >> What started that, bro? >> Man, I do. I ain't gonna lie. Cuz it's just like sports, man. People watch fights and for some reason they get this like super negative feeling in their stomach. >> I watch fights and it's like watching two people play one-on-one basketball. >> My explore page like fights. I'm like, damn. >> Cuz all I be looking at is like, okay, after >> after he hit you the first two times, you ain't think the duck like where the adjustment like >> I be thinking about it all like basketball. Like when he did that, why you ain't hit him with the swim? You could have moved that hand then you would have had him open right here in the side. You should have hit him there. Hard to breathe. Hard to breathe. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I'm thinking like that and M be looking like y'all going to jail. I'm like why is that y'all first thought that people going to jail or >> like straight off top? >> Yeah. Off top. They I'm just like, bro, you don't think they just handling their argument? I think they just into it a little bit. >> A lot of bit. >> Yeah. We ain't gonna let them like all the way hurt theirel. Just >> stop yelling. Y'all been yelling all day fighting. >> Yeah. Say you got to get a fight in. We got to before we believe you. >> You done. >> Come on, gang. >> That's what used to kill me about watching all the other reality shows. I'm like I'm watching it. >> It's a bunch of [ __ ] get on that screen and get to talking crazy. And I'm like, you doing that? Cuz they ain't gonna let nobody touch nobody. Natalie has made a show >> that is about repercussion. >> That's funny. >> It is breathing life back into this community. >> But it's different now cuz it's like >> cuz they throwing they fa story line though. You >> I like I like >> you talking about some it is. >> No, I'm trying to say bro. I like for it to build up like know >> that the the episode might start with a fight. >> Straight up. >> [ __ ] you told her my little girl ain't have a coke. That's why it's wrong though >> cuz they do this when they first get on the episode. They'll be arguing about some [ __ ] online from a year ago. Like I ain't see I this the first time I'm seeing you. Let's get it, [ __ ] Whoa. >> Yeah. >> But I like it because it does. We are in a world full of no repercussions. >> Yeah. People could say anything they want, lie on your name, do whatever, and just be somewhere in their basement, in their underwear, and ain't got to deal with none of the frustrations. You got a whirlwind of media on you right now because of this. And they not, they just swinging their legs. They don't care. Ain't nobody worried about them. >> That's real. >> They have made it to where if you say something, when I see you, we're gonna handle it. And the reason I'm gonna go so hard is because now I know because I signed the >> non-disclosure. You can't sue me for whooping you. >> Damn. >> That's the fear. The fear of all of us grown ass men is that we will get into it with somebody in public >> and for beating his ass. I'm about to have a record. >> Cuz as a grown ass man, I do not care for my kids to see no more mug shots. I hate that I have one. Mhm. >> I don't need to have a mug shot. If I didn't get in trouble for fighting, I'd be a fighting [ __ ] I do not like arguing. It make me feel caddyy. I grew up in a house with all boys. Yeah. >> It was just my mama >> and she used to have to let us box cuz we got too big. >> Oh yeah. So y'all >> Yeah. We just going to handle it and then we going to eat dinner together. >> Mhm. >> Boy, that ain't no better way. >> How many How many was y'all? >> Four. >> Four. You the youngest? >> I'm third. You third. >> I just, you know, I'm big, bro. >> Oh yeah. >> I'm the big dog. You know what I'm saying? Shout out to my brothers. >> We got some >> I am randomly the tallest one though. Like they all under six feet. I'm 66. So >> they was in the sports too. All y'all was in the sport. >> Yeah. I already played football, broke his shoulder wrestling. Told them it's over with. >> Damn. >> Uh uh my oldest brother played ball but never played organized. Uh my youngest, he played every sport. Couldn't decide. He a Gemini. >> Yeah. He done. >> Wait, he broke his show to wrestling outside or wrestling the sport? >> Oh, wrestling the sport. >> No, no, he Yeah, they was doing the real [ __ ] >> Yeah, >> but Ari felt like I think he felt like dude did some dirty [ __ ] >> But it was just like he had to come back from that. Then he had to deal with, you know, people playing in his spot cuz he had to sit out for his injury. It was just a lot. >> And I was like, damn, he had to deal with a major injury >> at a young age. Like if he was in college, he would have been programmed already. >> I got to come back focus. You know what I'm saying? But we in [ __ ] high school, [ __ ] Like >> [ __ ] the resources alone. >> Yeah. They not putting the same They not putting the same passion into making sure they athlete get back right >> now. This [ __ ] like like how we was saying like this [ __ ] like a university boy at the high school. Some of these boys. >> Hell yeah. >> [ __ ] I saw my high school. They had the [ __ ] laser light show going on in the cab county like you know for the the the pregame show for touchdowns and [ __ ] >> They doing the whole flashing light [ __ ] >> That Buford [ __ ] is insane. >> Man, that ain't even fair. >> Buford [ __ ] ain't even fair. >> And bro, they go to the game early as [ __ ] They got games like they was on that game was on ESPN. >> Yeah. >> Buford >> Buford football university. >> Crazy bro. >> A fortress of brick and steel. Buford, Georgia's state-of-the-art high school football stadium shines like a new penny and costs a pretty one, too. A whopping 62 million. >> That's a a high school. >> Yes, a high school. Buford George, >> man, when he come You heard of Buford? >> I did. Do they play um cuz Carmen Carmen school? >> Yeah, I think Carmen do player >> Buford. >> They play against Buford, right? >> Grayson. What? Carol. say I'mma call I'mma call Karma. >> Gainesville kind of be if I'm missing out on your school, but it ain't nothing personal. We just talking [ __ ] >> I'm going have to hit Karma and see what they >> Yeah. Yeah. >> play them. >> We going to talk about that freaky ass uh >> 49ers on. >> What he did? What the 49ers owner did? >> Went to the >> Hey, you did you have a relationship with the owners >> on team? >> Got no female owners. >> No. >> No, just the owner. Just the owner. What? What? What? >> Like like a relation. >> Do I know the owners? Yeah. >> Cuz he said, "Come on, Joe." The way they set that up. Come on, Lord. He just said like, >> he like that freaky ass [ __ ] He damn Lord, what's up with you? >> What's the dude? They pull out red. >> Yeah, cuz >> I'm like, what the [ __ ] going on? Does that sound like something you would say ball like >> when he said the owner >> and you got shades on me? Like it I just with a different colorism [ __ ] going on. >> Hey, so when [ __ ] I ain't never had no female on like the [ __ ] you talking about. >> Yeah, >> I instantly clicked. >> Look what look everybody got their own train of thought when they asking the question. When he said the owner, I'm thinking like what? I was gonna ask you which owner was cool. Like you ever had a relation? I feel it. >> But he said, "What's that freak ass?" >> I say that they put that picture up and y'all pulled out red cup. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm like, "No, I was." Yeah. I'm like, "Yeah, I was a man." >> Oh, funny. No, I ain't. No. Yeah. No, I was cool with the owners, though. >> You funny? >> Yeah. I thought they was good guys, man. Shout out to the owners of the cool >> boy Dan Gilbert. >> My boy, you drink, >> huh? >> You drink? You need You need something to drink? >> Just a little. Oh, no. I'm cool. Right. >> Uh, what he did though, the 49ers on >> I'll tell you. >> Go ahead, Joe. >> [ __ ] He paid he paid he paid up for sex and got caught. >> He paid $140. >> Where And where did he end up going to pay for this coach? >> Where the [ __ ] he at? Uh he went okay. >> 49ers owner has been charged with disorderly conduct for engaging in prostitution and allegedly arranged to pay $140 at a trailer park in Ohio. H >> get it how you get it, buddy. >> So they trying to downplay it and trying to put a little curveball on it saying that this was uh the penalty for losing in fantasy football. That's one report that came out since then. But Buddy is uh I think he got a divorce or he he's getting divorced because of this [ __ ] But uh yeah, this is like a big ass um prostitution kind of sting or whatever they had going on. >> And yeah, this billionaire got caught wanting to spend a buck 40 on some coochie in a trailer park in Ohio. >> You want to know what's crazy? >> Okay, so obviously Damn. How long you been locked up for this? >> It don't make sense. No, you you just get a slap on the wrist. It's just the embarrassment at this point. >> Yeah, cuz like >> this is what's dumb to me. >> You're the owner. >> I'm trying. But this is what's dumb to me. What the [ __ ] does that have to do with the 49ers? >> You got a point there. Oh, well, he's the owner. >> Yeah, he's the owner. >> Again, a billionaire owner wanted to pay for sex. What does that have to do with the 49ers? >> It doesn't have anything to do with the 49ers. >> That's what makes it make my [ __ ] gears fly. >> That's that's still a multi. >> That's the most random story. Who cares? >> If perception is everything >> a billion dollar, >> you know that. >> So he the only billionaire pimp. >> No, he's not. >> Probably not. But he >> somebody. >> That's what it tells me. There you go. That's why it's important. You done pissed off somebody. They trying to rub your face through the mud so that you don't in inquire about whatever you was inquiring about or get the power that you were supposed to get. So, this is supposed to be a smudge on your resume so that it is >> we keep you at bay. You know what? >> But it's not I just don't get why the the public like I can't wait till we live in a day and age when they post some [ __ ] like this and then the comments and the the retweets and the likes is like one six two >> [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm waiting for that day my damn self. >> You mean just any type of >> it don't get no traction. Ain't nobody paying attention to it cuz it's [ __ ] irrelevant is what he's saying. >> Yeah. I'm saying like why do we >> why does it matter? Like if you're a radio host, right? >> Right. >> You're a podcast host right now. Right. So, >> okay. >> You're a podcast host and you go out one night, you get drunk and you drive, they pull you over. Why the [ __ ] do I need to see you drunk >> walking around? Like, why does TMZ post it? Like, why do I need to see it? >> Oh, okay. Why is it? Yeah, >> I just don't get it cuz it's like why do people even read in like why do people want to talk about >> you care enough? >> Not even why you care enough. If you care the comments should say damn don't drink and drive when you that drunk girl. We like you. Like we don't want you to ruin your life and kill yourself. >> But to be like I'm not a fan of her no more. She's a grown person that got drunk and drove. Every grown person in the world has driven drunk. >> Might not have gotten caught allegedly. allegedly. >> Yeah, >> but you might have not got caught, but we all were teenagers. We all were 21 >> when you trying it. >> We all got drunk. >> Think how you think you found out if you a good drunk driver? >> How many time >> How many times though have you been somewhere >> straight up? >> Have you been somewhere where you didn't drive, >> but the driver so floored that you like, out of everybody, >> I'm sober. >> Yeah. >> For real. For real. >> Yeah. I'm the >> I'm not letting none of these [ __ ] drive. Yeah. >> So, I'm the sober driver tonight or designated driver tonight. You know what I'm saying? I ain't sober, but I'm designated. You hear me? >> I'm the safest [ __ ] to >> straight up where it's like I'm trusting myself drunk to get us home cuz I don't trust nobody else cuz I know we all toast. Like I wish I would have been like I don't want a chance getting locked up somebody else. You feel me? And Uber wasn't around. Uber would have been nice. >> Quick shout out to Mothers Against Drunk Driving. They say my a couple times. Um, that was a service before Uber. >> Solid. >> You can call a mom who come pick you up from wherever you were and it'll take you home. Yeah, you should have used a [ __ ] Oh, well, no, I used it at tech. I don't know if you needed to use it then, >> but if you needed to use it at tech before the tax they lost some kids to that or something. >> I'm not sure. I'm not sure how the [ __ ] >> that probably how that started. >> Or lost a kid that was important to the uh so there avenues for everybody who needs help. I mean, needs a ride. Um, >> that was wrong as what's that called? >> Mothers against drunk driving. >> Mothers against drunk driving. Shout out to y'all. >> [ __ ] just pretend like he need a ride and I'm a little [ __ ] up. >> Drive me down that state for him. [ __ ] cheaper than Uber. >> I'm trying to steal. >> You're have a have a cup in your hand. Ho, >> you're an idiot. >> Sorry, mom. Still drinking. But but Sean, bro, you talking to a larger issue and it's it's I don't know if this [ __ ] will ever end, bro. We're just we're geared to look at uh uh tra tragic and and negative [ __ ] Just like driving down the street, you see a wreck on the other side of the highway. This side going to slow down just because they got to look at the [ __ ] and see how bad it is. >> It's like, bro, that nigga's pulled over. >> But then you talking common sense. You talking common sense. But it come from it come from sports. Yep. >> But even with sports, we're taught we're taught get to the next play. Basketball, you can't get mad that you miss. You might have to shoot again. If you worried about missing, how are you going to make >> How many [ __ ] make it to in in the league? >> Exactly. >> 1%. >> I get what you're saying. >> So, we're talk we're talking about that 1% that gets that mindset of move on next play. 99 Well, let's say on be nice. 95% >> ain't going to get it. >> It's crazy. when when you ever played that in like some headlines or like a reporter doing some [ __ ] you'd be like, "What the [ __ ] you gonna ask me?" >> I'll never forget we was what you call it somebody. It was before the Chris Haynes. >> Me and him was into it for a while about this. It was the the show >> that's a darkkinned [ __ ] >> Yeah. Yeah. He cool. We cool now. Okay. Good dog. >> I'm glad you said I like >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's one of my good story. >> No. No. That's one of my good dogs. >> I already be like, "Man, why the [ __ ] that nigga?" >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We go in for you, homie. >> Yeah. All right. >> They had that show um [ __ ] now. I can't think of the name of it. What was the show with the uh was it around the horn? >> No, no, no, no. It was a TV show with uh Taraji Cookie. She uh >> Empire. My bad. Yeah, Empire. I don't know why I was thinking about ESPN. >> The dude on there had a high top. >> Oh >> yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yeah. >> The girl on there had like a sixpack, was wearing the crop and [ __ ] >> So them [ __ ] b they was in the locker room talking about it. The reporter he like, man, I always thought it look like you or whatever. I'm like, man, I don't know. But I had a game. So I'm just like rambling like get out my face. >> Like whatever you say, I'm just like whatever. Like yeah, people say that whatever. Uh, you know what I mean? People be running with that [ __ ] I'm trying to hoop though. >> Yeah. >> He done wrote a story. It done went on the blogs. Iman Shumper says that they copied the show copied him and his wife and they >> and I'm like, "Do I tell you [ __ ] like that?" >> I'm like, we one, we ain't do an interview. Two, you standing in front of my locker. You know what I'm saying? But I'm like, [ __ ] you said all of that. I didn't even say these words. >> He just with it. >> Yeah, I just I just mumble anything to get him out my face. But he basic it's like it's the equivalent of me saying uh >> boy that crazy. >> So um Jojo, so you know you came last night after you left work, you went to that dude house and you slept over his house and did that cuz you ain't call me. So I figured you ain't call me because you was over dude house and you lowkey is like what [ __ ] Like I >> I'm just going to say something. What are you talking about? Yeah. >> So you like I'm like yeah >> okay I think I'm just going to leave. >> Oh. >> And he like the story that >> it was like that blunt like Yeah. No, I'm straight. >> No. No. It was just quoted. >> He quoted what he said in the question. >> Oh. >> So he basically said I said that. But it's like no, you questioned me of that. >> I said some [ __ ] It wasn't even what you said. But because I didn't say no, I don't think they did. I think I said like I don't watch it for real. But he made it seem like I don't watch it because I think that they copied our character. Got it. It just went crazy. >> And it went crazy because then people start clicking on it like he do have a high top like Shump. She do have a six-pack like >> Yo, Shump, are you going to sue? >> That's what it was. No [ __ ] But then a reporter after the game that wasn't him asked me about that, which made me even mad cuz I'm like, "Bro, how >> like we just [ __ ] won. >> We won. Their TV show doesn't need promo from me." >> Yeah. >> Why are we doing this? And I felt like even the NBA was going to get mad at me for that cuz it's like, bro, why are we promoting a TV show that don't got to deal with the NBA? >> I just didn't understand. I got so mad at him for that. But you know, we cool now. It's all good, Kurt. We all good. >> H how how how did that start? Like when you seen him like, "Bro, why you do that shit?" >> Oh, no. I was tight. >> Yeah. >> I ain't I wasn't I'm I wasn't It wasn't the best words. >> Yeah, >> cuz Chris also ain't no [ __ ] Like he ain't no just regular. >> He knew he he knew he did wrong though. >> He knew I was hot. He He knew I was going to tweak. He like, "Man," he also was like, "I didn't know it was going to do all that, my brother." Like, >> you know, it did get it. It's getting a little crazy. I didn't know it was going to do that, but I >> So, it grew legs for sure, >> huh? >> It grew legs. >> Yeah. Yeah, it grew some big legs. >> Yeah. >> Them [ __ ] was stepping and stomping. Yeah, >> cuz it was just like a lot. And then it got to the point where my team was like teasing me about the [ __ ] Like they thought the [ __ ] was funny that I was going crazy. >> Yeah. And then >> we on the Cavs. So, it's like anything attached to us gets into the algorithm of LeBron. I'm like, I'm sure y'all show was Happy Empire. Yeah, y'all just got to tell you is like [ __ ] couldn't wait to have something to finally like, you know what I mean? >> That man lashed out in the locker room that was also written like you knew it was coming, but it's like sweaty. Like >> true to character. >> Yeah, >> true to character. Like I had to sp. But uh yeah, that besides that, I don't think nothing was really bad like media wise. I think I was pretty pretty out the way. That one there [ __ ] me up though. ready to steal off >> before you get out here. I'mma ask I Everybody can ask that. I'm going say your most memorable game ever. >> Most memorable. >> It could be college, high school, NBA. Like just >> most memorable game is the one before I played AU cuz it was my segue. I was playing small fry basketball in Chicago. But not no I was playing on a travel team and they played small fry and I was two inches too tall to play small fry. >> They used to lower the rims. >> Yeah. >> But it was like a juking league like everybody used to be lit but it was for like all the Chicago point guards cuz they was all super short. So they had a disadvantage once we all got tall. So I was getting tall early. They couldn't come. They chose to go to the small fry tournament instead of coming to the tournament that we had. And my father had already paid. So that he had already paid. I had to be like 10. We get there. We supposed to have two other people meet us. They built My dad gave a jersey to my little brother, one of my friends that just came to the tournament just on some chill. Oh, no. His dad was >> refing. >> Mhm. >> Reffing a couple of the other games or whatever. And he just came to kick it. He was really programmed to play basketball. I mean, football. He played, his little brother played. And my dad picked some big kid that was just like a fat kid that didn't make the team type [ __ ] >> Just was like, >> "You want to play?" >> Dude was like, "Yeah." >> The team we had to play walk in with all blue book bags, gym bags, headphones, everything. Team they doing drills to start. We on the other end with five people. We look ghetto as [ __ ] >> Bad news bears >> jerseys, random shorts, like couple of they wearing like khaki short. Like he really wasn't here to play. Like he was just watching. And before the game, I remember being like like damn near with a lump in my throat. Like damn, you fa to make me play. Like bro, that [ __ ] grabbed me by my shirt, dog, and looked me dead. I'll never forget that energy. >> Yeah. >> And he was like, "Can anybody over there stop you?" I was like, "No." But I'm like, "Nigga, like >> they lose. >> Look at my team. >> I don't have my team." >> Oh, your team. >> Yeah. I'm like, "I ain't got nothing to help. Like, it's five of them, one of me." >> He said, "Can anybody stop you?" I said, "No." He said, "Then don't let them." >> Straight up. >> Just win the game. >> And I remember that he let my [ __ ] go. Looked down. My [ __ ] was twisted like that and I didn't touch it. I left it. >> But I remember my mind changing. It was the first game I played where I'm like >> cuz I play point guard. >> Yeah. >> So I'm used to dishing >> handling doing a lot of different stuff. But I remember thinking I'm not passing this ball. >> Like literally my little I kid you not. I dribbled the ball off my foot, got it back like saved it type [ __ ] threw it to my little brother. I'm getting up to get it back. My little brother just launches this [ __ ] >> like on carton. >> Give a [ __ ] >> Makes the [ __ ] >> Goes to the other end and start doing a celebration, dog. Ebo, >> listen though. They playing a full game like this a real team. They take it out. Pitch it ahead. Kasani celebrating. He lit. Lit. >> He ain't thinking this. >> He made a three. He couldn't wait to tell my mama. >> Yeah, >> he rocked that [ __ ] Hook. >> He lit dancing and [ __ ] I'm screaming like, "Get back." Like, >> but just to give you an idea of who I was playing with. The other kid like got a rebound and just was like, like, "Take it. Like, get away from me, guys. Like, it's too much." >> The other [ __ ] was tired. The one [ __ ] was crying cuz he was just so exhausted. He had never played a game and had no breaks. >> Damn. >> Yeah, >> bro. Probably finished this game with like 60 points. We won by two. >> And then the team that was got to play, they had to play the winner of my team verse the other team the next day. And the Midwest Wolves came over to my dad and was like, "Who is that?" He was like, "That that's my son." He was like, "He needs to be on our team." >> And after that, I entered the AAU stage. That was my first day. But I'll never forget that [ __ ] grabbed me and was like, "Can anybody over there stop you?" >> So, what age was this? >> Probably like 10, 11. >> 10. Shorty, I had never scored that many times in my life. >> Tired as hell. >> But dad was proud as [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> Well, he was. >> Did your dad show it >> cuz you know? >> Yeah. The only time he showed he was proud as hell after the North Carolina thing and then >> when I went and played in LeBron camp, I 40 to everybody. I was [ __ ] [ __ ] up. >> Yeah. >> But that was uh >> I had just lost my was it was it I had just lost some sort of game and then Supo nose got broke. He didn't play cuz he was playing football and he was like his nose messed up till he get a custom mask. >> He wasn't playing >> and again I felt alone >> and I 40 ball and I went off and I they they teched me cuz I was I was a little too passionate. >> You know what I'm saying? Like I was scoring but I was doing it was aggressive. It this was before I left Chicago. So it was aggressive and I got a text that my dad was walking the track and he say just talk to me. Don't talk to them. Don't don't talk no more trash to them. So the whole gym, everybody coming over there and watch the game cuz I'm talking to my dad at the air bucket. This [ __ ] ass [ __ ] can't guard me. >> Yeah. >> He ain't like that [ __ ] >> But it I had never called my dad [ __ ] >> Yeah. >> I had he like [ __ ] this [ __ ] Come out. He >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not now [ __ ] don't now [ __ ] now [ __ ] got to warm up right now y'all got to warm up right y'all was talking all that [ __ ] like I was yelling >> but I was really out my mind like you know what I'm saying I'm like and coach I told them to run it through me anyway like I'm I'm on that on that type of time but I remember going to sleep waking up and they like you number 15 player in the country and I saw my dad cry >> and I was like excuse me >> [ __ ] >> that [ __ ] be rare why >> yeah a dad cry it's like either something really bad happened or something really [ __ ] good. >> I know what you're saying. Like we talk about how dads be a lot of time with you know with men like you know like bro my dad [ __ ] me one day that [ __ ] talking said love you. I said huh it like he said I know he meant it but it shocked him that he said it. He like love you man. Love you. Love you too. >> That's [ __ ] up. Make that [ __ ] make that [ __ ] a regular thing. But I'm saying like, [ __ ] I I do love my but it's just something we don't make it a regular thing. >> Listen, with me, we don't have to say it. You got to show >> [ __ ] >> You can't say that. You're right. You're right. I think we all right in there. >> Yeah. >> But it's it's when you have a daughter, you realize you need to articulate it. >> Yes, bro. >> Cuz they need that. >> And it's a different type of love with girls and they >> a boy. No, I'm a dad girl. My dad. >> My dad if he come to the game and he sit there and his eyes is on me the whole time. >> Yeah. >> That's love to me. >> Come on now. >> Mhm. >> I don't know if calling me every day would have went his way where it's like you get to call me like when my dad called me it meant something. >> You calling me I got a game today. We gonna talk basketball. >> Yeah. >> He calling me on, you know, at the end of the month I'm doing I'm in college. He making sure I got money to eat or whatever the [ __ ] he trying to do. Whatever. Uh if he call me and I know I did some [ __ ] my my anxiety up when he called. But it's like it need to do something when your daddy call. I don't never want to have a parent call and I don't have a feeling at all. Just like hello. Like I've never done that. >> A n >> even as an adult >> cuz my mama them don't do that. >> They don't call you for random [ __ ] like that. Like >> I I think up we parent we parent totally different but I know that's how I grew up like it like if my dad call like man that >> oh bro he probably want me to do something I got a responsibility to handle >> no yeah cuz even like with me like if I'm getting in trouble >> and my dad is involved >> I done did >> like my mom typically handle it but if she be like >> I let your daddy I let your daddy handle it when you get home I be Like, oh [ __ ] >> Cuz you you can slick play with your I know what you talking and I'm a girl. So >> I knew when my mama threatened to tell my dad I'm like what the [ __ ] you're my parent too. What the [ __ ] But they know I'mma tell you that >> cuz she like I know what the [ __ ] >> Now both of us get right. >> I know. Matter of fact, I got something for that. Wait till your daddy get home. >> Matter of fact, you Yeah. You tell my used to be like >> tell your daddy what? >> Wait till y'all daddy get home. Yep. She used to make us do that, too. Line up. >> Y'all tell your daddy what happened today. >> Go ahead and tell them. used to line up in front of the red door. >> Tell them what happened. >> So how that be like Jojo though? Like with girls though? >> Oh, so >> cuz y plays on the dance. >> Yeah. So most of the time my dad let me get away with like he'll just cuz me and my dad we cool as hell. That's my you know ride or die. So we'll talk about what happened. And >> he'll be like, "Okay, I understand why that happened. You can't do that [ __ ] no more." >> Like and then sometimes like my mama got mad about that. Like you not gonna discipline her. You know what I'm saying? So sometimes he used to act like he would whoop me and like hit the counter to the to the um >> to the um to the kitchen one of them counter >> and then I'd be like go to your room. Go to your room and I'll go to my room. >> My dad didn't [ __ ] that [ __ ] >> Wait a minute. You got to fake a whooping with your dad >> for sure. >> Y'all like this. >> Yeah. >> Hey, listen. That's Gode. >> And my mom used to say all the time, oh well since it's Jojo, she gets away with everything. But I ain't get away with everything. >> But dad give you a different discipline. He might not have whooped you, but I'm sure he probably Absolutely. >> Just knowing that my dad was upset or disappointed was enough. I didn't need him to like >> discipline me in that way. >> Him just being like disappointed. That look of just like why would you kick out the D before me and my dad used to watch basketball together, but I would [ __ ] He like no no no don't sit in here. I was like >> damn you. >> Yeah. I'm like you really ain't [ __ ] with me, gang. like a lot. It was a behavioral issue. Like I'm like it was I I still got good grades. Like >> but he wasn't [ __ ] with me. He like you a clown. Like you want to be a class clown, be a clown. >> Just do it over there. Like you ain't rocking with me. And I just was like uhuh. >> I got to get back in there with the guys. They drinking beers watching the game. >> Yeah. They picking it. I'm like this my kicking time where I sit on the rug. They talk basketball. They argue. This where I learn. learn your [ __ ] talking about when they go to school. [ __ ] I feel like a grown man. That's how you learn how to use curse words. But they'll curse and be like, "Hey, y'all don't say that." >> They're like, "You just told me exactly how to say it and when to say it and to feel it." Like you got to feel it from your soul when you say it. They be like, "Man, that's some bullshit." >> I used to be looking at TV [ __ ] get a foul. Baby, that's some [ __ ] I used to lose a lot of money. But you're but you're a girl dad so your discipline I mean >> Oh no I'm soft as [ __ ] I ain't going to lie. >> Yeah like I'm a punk. I was but I was immediately with Juny. >> It's easier with Rub because I have Juny already. >> So Juny actually caught a little bit more strict parenting. Like they got two different parents. I was more militant in the regards of rules is rules, especially if Juny like she had to get a powpow one time for a glass. But she was taking the glasses and going like this, >> clicking them and banging them. I'm like, I get it. The sound is new. Stop doing it. She did it again and I heard a little bit of a crack. >> Grabbed both of the glasses out of hand. I moved real quick, but I had to cuz I'm like, you're going to hurt yourself. I'd much rather pow pow on the butt than your hands slit up and you having glass stars. >> Explain that is totally different. >> Oh my. >> There you go. >> Oh, you got like you >> Oh, when you get to the hospital with glasses >> child protector when you get protective service right here, Mr. >> Yeah. Hell yeah. >> Hey, you know what's crazy? I saw a clip the other day, bro. They said, "Do you realize that child services will see that you don't have the money to take care of your babies, come in and evaluate it and then take your babies from you to give them to another family and pay the family to take care of them?" >> It's crazy as [ __ ] when they could have just paid you >> the parent. >> Boy, >> it's a dirty game. >> You hear [ __ ] like that, you be like, >> "That's wild." >> And it's like, "How the [ __ ] have I been How have I been living this long and never noticed it?" >> That's why you lucky, bro. >> I never thought about it, >> man. No dead ass. Like, you you're in a fortune position to where you never had to even think about that [ __ ] >> But it's like even when I heard the system. >> Yeah. Just my intuition period should have been able to pick up. That's incorrect because why didn't y'all just give the government checks straight to them? >> Y'all knew they was going to have these type of struggles if they was already section 8 program. >> So now they can't link on section 8 and get the money that you was going to give a family that already got money. >> Man, you know what the master plan is, huh? >> For sure. But it just like when I seen Yeah. When I seen the clip, I was just like, that's amazing. Like, and that's the type of [ __ ] that I feel like should have >> 3,000 likes and 4 million shares. And it's like, why this can't be viral? >> Never. >> Why this ain't on shade? >> Why the [ __ ] y'all tell? Get that [ __ ] off the internet. Shade room. Post this. >> Wipe it. >> Like, post [ __ ] like that where we all have to take the second to be like, >> "Yeah, >> yeah, >> Trump. >> Is it something we could vote on this about?" >> Yeah, like Trump. No, matter of fact, specifically that. Mhm. >> Trump stop taking people babies to give to strangers when all they needed was the money that you given the stranger >> in the first place. >> They just needed the money. You ain't going to >> They probably need all the money that you giving to that family. They just needed a couple more hunters >> straight up. >> And now you got an incapable parent cuz they got to go through life now without their kid. They depressed. They ain't [ __ ] >> And then they go to this new house. They this family, you not my real child. So it's like a different You saying it's a different Yeah. It's not even I've hear so many horror stories like about how those housings like some of the housing ain't even right. They do all types of weird [ __ ] like to Bro, that [ __ ] is [ __ ] up. >> That's a dirty. >> They be on some weird [ __ ] Like it don't even be real healthy. I'll be like who does the vetting on these families before these kids even get there to begin with? >> Your paperwork got to be right. That [ __ ] >> that [ __ ] is crazy. Some of the stories that I've heard from just children who's been put in the system. It's like, how in the hell did you come out of that to come into this? At least you weren't harmed. >> Like, you may have went to sleep hungry a couple times, but harmed. Like, >> yeah, there's a couple [ __ ] I had to eat sleep for dinner, man. >> For sure. But you okay? >> You're okay. >> Real talk. Everybody had a struggle meal or two. It'd be all right, bro. >> For real. >> It be all right. I definitely don't watch my parents not eat, >> not knowing, thinking they just wasn't hungry. >> Yeah. >> And that's a blessing. you was able to change their life. >> What? But when I understood it, when my brother yelled at me and told me we was broke, >> I was like, "Nigga, I ain't a >> No, like the [ __ ] from lottery ticket. >> Wake the [ __ ] up, nigga." >> Yeah, it was just like that. >> Like the [ __ ] from lottery ticket. >> It was just like that. Like look around like [ __ ] we are broke. >> Straight up. >> Broke. >> He like >> Yeah. Straight up. >> Yeah. He was bas >> your older brother. I I I was I was basically throwing a fit and asked my mama to buy me something just on some cool [ __ ] >> Oh yeah. >> Like on some I just want to impress a girl. My homies all got this like and I'm just like but you said we could like I'm just really just being a spoiled little brat. >> And I'm thinking in my mind like dad said if I you know what I'm saying got good grades. I'm like, "Nigga, I'm a straight A student. Like, y'all supposed to buy me this." Like, but I just didn't understand the concept of money at all. >> Yeah. >> In my mind, I did good in school. >> Where? Yeah. Magic money should pay for what I want. >> Yeah. >> [ __ ] you looking goddamn house right now. And he basically was like, "Stop begging for [ __ ] You want [ __ ] save your money. Stop spending your birthday money on stupid [ __ ] Stop doing dumb [ __ ] You want to do it? Do it this way. Don't do that to mommy no more." >> And I was looking like, >> but it it switched me >> after that. I I did. >> But that hard though. I >> I took it serious after that. >> You ain't lying. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. I took it serious after that cuz I realized like they're doing everything they can so that we don't feel [ __ ] >> Yeah. Was he the oldest? >> He's second. >> But he definitely processed. He was the most in tune. He got a job the quickest. >> Oh, okay. >> Like he was just in tune. >> That's the middle child. >> Yeah. Already the middle child. >> Yeah. Mhm. >> But you know how like sometimes like this how I look at it cuz like when people are doing stuff like that first child usually see like you was around when your parents was still growing up and doing little [ __ ] So it's like you know like [ __ ] >> Yeah. But do do you see like the middle child always being the most responsible though? They always take care of [ __ ] cuz I I see that the middle child always got >> because the first like he said first child was with the parents. They didn't really know the routine nothing. >> Yeah. the second or third child, whichever your middle is, is gonna be like, "Okay, boom. >> I done watched this kid get in trouble for this, that kid." You could fall in line quicker cuz you got people got an example right in front of you that are a couple years older. >> Then your parents is different. They're now more responsible. They're like, "They're older. We can't let them see us doing this. We already got caught with him. >> Let's keep it cool with these two." So, you just become a better. The youngest child, they tired. >> Tired. You let them let them have it. Let them have it. >> Do whatever the hell they want. They got it. Go ahead, man. Just be quiet. Okay. >> Mad as hell they get to do whatever the hell they want to do. Like >> Yeah. Juny be hot. Juny be looking like why is the rules changing now? >> No. Straight up. >> Like why do this little girl get to like, daddy, I didn't get to do that. And I'll be looking like damn. >> Yeah. >> You feel me? Yeah. I might have been drunk when you was doing it. You know what I'm saying? I might not have liked that. You need to stop. >> Stop it. >> Yeah. With R. I just want R not crying, man. And R, don't cry. >> No iPads for her during the week. [ __ ] she going to get this iPad. Just keep her quiet. Get >> I can we I be having to wean my daughter off it, too, though. Cuz naturally, if you let them, they will rock out. >> But if you during the day do activities with them by night time, >> go ahead, baby. >> Yeah, that what I'm saying. >> But that just means some people let the iPad wake up with the daughter. If the iPad wake up with them and they do it to sun down, that's different. Now, if they done had a day worth of stuff, like I like my like one of my favorite things my kids do, they play in the dirt. >> That's hard. >> I love it. >> Going outside. >> I stopped buying them so many cool shoes. I realized that when they leave from their mama house, they really do want a break from having to deal with >> they want to be a kid. >> Yeah. And it's like they mama has to do stuff that a lot of times where they have to wear the outfit that when we was kids, we like I can't get jiggy in this. Hey, >> can't even do my cartwheel. >> You know what I'm saying? I can't do the James Brown. >> We talked about how important Batman shoes was not too long. >> You hear me? With the little straps on them. Hey, come on, man. [ __ ] ain't coming off. Yeah, they ain't coming off. They ain't coming off, bro. I'm not putting you in that [ __ ] >> And I get little with them [ __ ] All you going to see is the red light. Stop playing, boy. Now, >> uh, damn. What was I just saying? No, I can't. Oh, yeah. Yeah. My daughters, they be playing. They want to learn. They'll like we put salt on slugs. Please, if that's animal cruelty, I'm sorry, but this is like childhood growing up. >> They [ __ ] mad about that. They better not be watching this. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So much other [ __ ] So much other >> just little [ __ ] like that. Like they like science. They like cleaning out the fish tank together. And >> long as we do something that day together, I'll be like, "Y'all could rock out for real. For real." Like they had a hell of a summer. They stayed up till 5. I'm like, how the hell y'all little They beat me a couple of time where it's like I'm knocked before y'all wake up and they just knocked out till 2 pm. >> Love it. >> I like Yeah. I'm like, this is a great summer for y'all. They in the pool all day. They But they got a nice little system going. But I love that they do that. They go outside. They don't just get stuck on that iPad. They like getting into stuff. >> I bought my >> open the gate, walk down. Yeah. Armani was over there with him. >> I know. Always getting into [ __ ] See, I bought her a trampoline. >> So, we got it set up trampoline, bro. Growing up, >> it might sound embarrassing, bro. I ain't had [ __ ] like that. I ain't no [ __ ] >> Real talk. >> I ain't never had no trampoline, >> [ __ ] You ain't the only one. >> She asked me to play with her, [ __ ] I'm out there jumping. >> You having so much fun. >> Time of my life, [ __ ] We got a We got a little goal on that [ __ ] We >> Hell yeah. Now, she catching that [ __ ] dunking it. >> We having so much fun. I like [ __ ] my dad and mama do [ __ ] for me. You funny as hell for saying >> All they did was teach me. They ain't buy me [ __ ] >> Hold on, baby. Hold on. I I need 30 more minutes. 30 more minutes. >> You taking over the trampoline in She got to ask. I ask her. I like You ready to get on that trampoline? >> No, that's the best though, dog. Kids will do that though. They'll remind you to have fun. Because I swear to God, I realize when I be at the house, you know how I be. >> I'll be at the crib and people be like, "What you on today?" I'll be like, "Nothing." And they'll be thinking like, >> "Let me tell him about all the stuff we could do." And I'll be like, "No, no, no." Like, "It's my choice that I think. I'm cool. >> I'm cool." >> Yeah. >> I bought this house. I painted it the color. I like everything. I think I just want to sit in what I pay for. Enjoy it. >> I would Yeah. I'm saying it. >> It's hot as hell outside, sweaty. What's happening? [ __ ] be like, "Man, I'm going to drink." I got Look here. >> I got a pool. >> I got water. >> You ain't got to worry about nobody doing this to the shot, [ __ ] I can p the whole [ __ ] >> No [ __ ] though. >> Bring the kids. >> I won't leave the house. Oh yeah, you can always bring the kids. Kids, I said kids be the best part. >> If I was to tell y'all to come to my house >> and [ __ ] hit me with the Oh, man. You know, I still got the kids. Perfect. I got mine, too. I got mine, too. Let's do it. Like, I love that [ __ ] bro. Like, the kids be the only reason we ever we wouldn't when the last >> they took they want to go laser tag, >> bumper cars, uh they want to do pink ball, >> uh the bouncing jump. I'm a member. >> I'm like, I don't even know why you didn't even say that. >> I know what going on >> cuz I ain't going to lie, they be wearing me out on that. Last time I did the trampoline, >> Skyone. Last time I did the trampoline, I did it for like two, three. I did what you did. I was overdoing it though. They got the dunk session. >> Oh yeah. Oh, I know. [ __ ] you going crazy. >> Then we doing flips into the uh the bowl with all the like so you can't get hurt. So we doing wrestling moves. We had way too much fun, gang. I ain't going to lie. I had to be at ESPN. Had to sit straight in that seat. Couldn't do it. Back killing me. Legs tight. Hammies tight. I'm like, "For I ain't I ain't training every day like I used to. My body can't take this." And her little young ass just >> But Juny, man, Juny be falling. >> She falling. I'll be like And she just >> I'm okay. I'm okay. I'm You better be. Godamn it. >> She tough. >> Oh, she tough than a [ __ ] But kids kids can take it like they immune system better. They >> they body can take more pain. >> Yeah. That [ __ ] is awesome. Before you had like your daughters, did you you wanted a boy? >> Hell yeah. I'm still trying for a boy on my third girl. >> Once you had them once you had them girls, bro, I'd be like, "Nigga, >> it's a love. It's a Cuz I know how I am." So it's like, >> "Hold on." >> What? >> Don't gloss over that. >> Yeah. >> Your third one. >> What? You three? >> Oh yeah, I got three. >> Oh [ __ ] How long >> I She's five months now. Well, six months. Yeah. >> Congratulations, bro. >> Six months now. >> I don't know if y'all got the headline, but I missed it. Yeah. >> Congrats, bro. >> Yeah. Six months now. >> What's your name? >> Six months. Navy. >> Navy. So, >> good [ __ ] bro. >> Yeah. Uh, >> I got I got girls, but I'm going to get that boy. >> Get that. >> You got to get the boy. >> How many more chances you going to try? Huh? >> How many chances you going to try? >> That's what I'm saying. I'm going to get that boy. >> Yeah. If I need more if I need $20. >> Yeah. If I need 20 daughters first, that's just what it's going to be. >> But a boy got to go. >> It got to. >> You stop. You stopping at the boy. >> You stopping after the boy. >> He might need a brother. >> This [ __ ] is >> I ain't going to lie though. The brother, if I got to go that hard for the boy, the brother might be test tube. >> Okay. >> He might be a test tube, baby. I might just choose him. >> That's fine. They doing >> I'mma do some weird [ __ ] too. Like, give him gray eyes. Give him gray eyes. >> They can encourage all that [ __ ] >> I would do some [ __ ] >> He sound like me. Hey, if you look up here, >> I'll be like, m give him gray eyes and give him a a blonde streak right here in his hair. >> Like, sir, why >> at the gate? >> Just cuz >> at the gate. Yeah, just swag him out. >> My stupid eye. I thought that [ __ ] would close. >> Yeah. >> Damn. Where the [ __ ] water come from? This >> be Hold on. I ain't got no napkin. I got everything but a napkin now. >> It cool. It about that time. away. >> Hey, before we get out of here, man, I always like to to to pull from our like top tier type guest, >> but man, all I want to do is just give you some flour, bro. I never met you on campus. You're uh you a couple years behind me. I love how you rock that number one, and even your stories match with the number one jersey. Appreciate >> you, brother. >> Uh what you're doing on ESPN uh is incredible. It's an incredible transition. the way you articulate, the way you hold yourself accountable, the way you hold yourself just presentable just in in all facets from fatherhood off the court. I know you're into athletics as well, >> but on in front of that camera with the country Wayne and your acting roles and everything like that, bro, it is something not to gloss over easily because everybody does not make that transition. >> And I just wanted to say, man, it's a pleasure to meet you. >> I appreciate you, brother. >> And you still a real one. And you on you know how some people there was like you could tell like >> I'm going say what I'm say >> and you know hey you ain't no tech people >> you no tech people. >> Oh no ain't like us. >> Hey though. But I ain't going to lie though. Georgia Tech if a [ __ ] went to Georgia Tech I do hold him to a certain intellectual level >> uh a standard on how he goes about his business and like I feel you on that. Like I don't know what it is. I'm not big on like all my moder but when another tech guy be like oh yeah I went to tech I do be feeling like all right you know then >> you know like he know about the stinger you know about the stinger >> he done rode that stanky stinger >> n some real [ __ ] bro to finally meet you formally meet you >> thoroughly impressed >> I appreciate >> I appreciate it man I know that we can go on for hours in this >> bro that why I'm saying like it was like [ __ ] just sitting here chilling and talking like [ __ ] forgot about the goddamn we start I'm >> everything. >> I ain't going to lie, I didn't know where we was actually. I was like, damn, maybe they don't have a starting thing cuz we Yeah. Like maybe they don't do an intro. Maybe they just dive into it and grab clips cuz I was like I think the light on, but I'm like I'm not going to keep looking over there. >> Oh yeah. Oh, so in the beginning we ain't hadn't even started that [ __ ] on like it just >> That's what I'm saying. But I'm saying how the conversation never went to like this formal weird [ __ ] like it kept me in. We at home right here, bro. >> And >> that's how you get the best interviews, though. Make a [ __ ] feel as comfortable as possible. >> This when we knew >> Calvin Johnson came, Kevin Johnson came, bro. >> Yeah. >> And that [ __ ] ball. They went to school together. They played around like, you know, played on the same team. So they cool. >> Yeah. >> After he said, "Bro, I've never seen that [ __ ] like so that [ __ ] said that [ __ ] drunk with us." Like it was just [ __ ] He just >> don't do no [ __ ] like that. Heaven don't do no [ __ ] like that. family [ __ ] Yeah. Like I said, he see another Georgia Tech n like he got me. Like he ain't going to have me out here looking bogus. >> I'm a partner though. You know what I mean? Every time I'm in Detroit, I'm in with him. But >> but it's the same way like with Jojo. Like having Jojo head make me feel like like they wouldn't even put out no [ __ ] >> You better know it. >> If I jagged and said some whack [ __ ] they'll be like, >> "Nigga, >> you know what I'm saying?" Like, "Hey, bro. We got a [ __ ] in there. >> How we going to go to work? >> He had to watch this [ __ ] cuz ain't no, bro. We got to I slick the episode over anyway. But that [ __ ] in the beginning, I want to not have that [ __ ] in there. >> What? >> Yeah, >> that uh >> don't don't say it. Don't [ __ ] it up. >> We can't feel this way though. Like we can't do that. This is a real thing. >> Yeah, it is. >> This is women's sports >> because I think it's so [ __ ] >> But that's why I'm glad Ena's cancer is doing it. Yeah. Because he >> him being him, Royce being Royce, >> now they have to take it serious. >> Serious. Yeah, >> take the word woman serious. Don't just do it because he wasn't as >> right there. >> You know what I mean? >> You just you just annunciated the [ __ ] professionally I should have been saying. >> A woman is born a woman. You know what I'm saying? Like it is what it is. There's female and there's male and it's like we can have a league to celebrate it. All he's doing is trying to say just make it to where nothing like me can go against my daughters >> and then we're cool. But you also need to y'all need to do some research with Enus cancer. >> That dude always has been outgoing about a lot of political things. >> Okay, >> that's important. >> He speaks >> his mind. And what we have to understand about this country is >> that's our right. That's why this country is this country. >> Yeah, >> it is this country because he's allowed to say that >> and he's allowed to have an opinion. >> He changed his name to Enis Freedom. Okay. >> And it says he's a human rights activist. >> Yeah. >> Turkish American human rights activist. >> I'm talking about during while we were in the league, certain stuff happens, >> all the players get silent. >> He'll go speak. He makes sure he's knowledgeable about it. Like he cares about it. It's a passion for him. So it's like I can't get mad about that because it's like [ __ ] I done been p I'm passionate about [ __ ] pitching a TV show. Yeah. recording the album >> and it's like this is all stuff that is just >> for me. >> Yeah. >> At least there's somebody out here who does give a [ __ ] >> and I and you know he ain't doing it just for no this like >> he's doing it for awareness. Yeah, he >> counts. So I I I I do I know that it might strike people the wrong way sometimes. It might rub people the wrong way sometimes to have these conversations. But we do owe it to ourselves as Americans to not feel like we can't talk about something constructive once a certain community is brought up. It's like that's what's made comedy so good. Like comedy has figured out. >> I just think if you a [ __ ] why you want to play against the women? Go play against the other way some panties and go to the NBA. >> Real talk. But that's a tough one. >> Cuz we don't care if you a boy, girl, >> [ __ ] >> uh a dog. I'm gonna dunk you. I don't give a [ __ ] what you are. Red, blue, >> then the league gonna get crank cuz now these [ __ ] standing like Diddy under the dunk contest. The [ __ ] want to get dunked though. >> All right. Hey, that's my time y'all. >> It's your girl XP and it's your girl Jan Nicole >> Clayton English Greenboy Louis belt Justin Whitehead Buddy Bag B. >> Listen, if you're trying to book us for your event, hosting, comedy show, whatever you got going on, >> let's keep it real professional. No sliding in my DMs. >> Well, I'm not going to say that. That's what they want me to say. You can still slide in my DMs, but it's got to be freaky. No, I'm just playing. Look, let's keep it real professional. This what you going to do. >> Hit the email bookies85.com. >> That's how you make sure everything is handled right with no games. >> Contact the email, man. Hey, ain't no more hit me on the side. I'm professional this year. You got to talk to my people. So, one more time for bookings, hit up bookings at 85show.com >> and that way you can get your event handled the right way. Cuz like I say, I'm not going to hit you up. I'm not going to respond. So, look, >> no funny business. >> No funny businesses. It's just strictly >> family business around here, man. We bring the funny, you just have your business straight. Let's go. Come on. >> Yo yo yo. What's going on? It's your boy DC Unfly. In case you haven't heard, we at the 85 South Show have launched our own independent streaming service called Channel 85. And for our loyal supporters, we are currently offering 20% off for 6 months. Just use code 85%. Right, spread it out. Code 85 p. Once you sign up, you'll get access to the podcast a whole day earlier than everyone else on YouTube. all of our new live shows, independent specials, new shows like Five on It, 85 Vive, and even get your special offers and discounts for 85 South merchandise and the shows. It's only $8.50 a month or $85 for the whole year. And you can find us online at china85.com or on your iPhone, Apple TV, Amazon, Firest Stick, Roku, and even on Android. And remember, use code 85enter for 20% off for a whole six months. That's channel 85.