Bobby Lee on Relationships, Making Millions, & Not Giving A F**K
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Bobby Lee opens his podcast appearance with a candid reflection on his unconventional background, noting he received all F's in high school and has attended rehab multiple times due to addiction issues rather than possessing any traditional skill set. He attributes his success entirely to the simple act of showing up and putting one foot in front of the other despite fear and insecurity. Lee discusses his current life in Las Vegas with co-host Andrew Santino, contrasting it with Los Angeles, which he feels is declining. The conversation touches on local culture, including observations about homeless encampments near Santa Monica and Venice Beach, where Lee humorously critiques street performers while acknowledging their talent within their specific context. He also addresses the prevalence of data broker scams targeting older generations, promoting a sponsor service that helps remove personal information from these databases to protect families. The dialogue shifts significantly toward relationships, with Lee admitting he has not had romantic success in his twenties due to fear of rejection but is now more open after experiencing a ten-year relationship and currently dating someone for three years. He expresses interest in partners who are the opposite of himself—morally upright individuals like those who go to church or do yoga—while jokingly stating he would never date a dwarf despite acknowledging that personality matters most, though he admits his own limitations regarding height differences. Lee reflects on how stand-up comedy gave him the confidence needed to overcome social anxiety and rejection in dating life, creating an upward spiral of success where small wins built self-assurance necessary for acting roles and public appearances. Lee delves into the changing landscape of comedy and free speech, arguing that modern comedians are overly sensitive compared to past eras when artists like Eddie Murphy could say anything without consequence. He believes his podcast resonates because it authentically replicates how friends joke around in private settings, unfiltered by television gatekeepers who previously rejected him for not being a "star." While he acknowledges the financial benefits of platforms like YouTube and podcasts compared to traditional TV gigs which are now harder to secure due to industry shifts toward short-form content on TikTok, Lee insists that his motivation remains driven by love for comedy rather than just money. He praises younger comedians like Matt Rife who have succeeded through hard work in major markets like New York and Los Angeles before achieving fame. Throughout the interview, Lee maintains a self-deprecating tone regarding his intelligence, joking about having quarter Down syndrome due to never reading books or getting poor grades, yet he demonstrates sharp business acumen by discussing product ideas for conjoined twins and negotiating casino residencies with comedians like Andrew Santino. He addresses concerns about cancel culture and social restrictions, suggesting that while people are more uptight now, the core of comedy remains in telling authentic stories even if some jokes might be flagged or deemed distasteful to certain audiences. Lee concludes by emphasizing resilience over perfectionism, noting that he would rather fail publicly than not try at all, a philosophy that has allowed him to navigate from poverty and addiction to becoming a successful creator with millions of subscribers.
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I got all F's in high school I went to
four rehab I have no skill set whatever
the only thing I know how to do is just
to put one foot in front of the other
and say okay I think that's the only
thing I did right in my life look at me
right now dude would you ever make love
to dwarf
so you've probably seen Bobby Lee in
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back to the podcast thanks for having me
thank you so much thank you so much for
coming on this is so exciting for us
honestly so we listened to four hours
straight of you in the car at 2x speed
so we've just heard eight hours of bad
friends
we did impulsive we also men we did Lex
Friedman which was amazing that one was
awesome because it's very different than
a lot of the other podcasts you've been
on he's very analytical obviously it was
hilarious but it wasn't around like
funny stories and stuff like that which
I loved Theo Von and then some of
impulsive some of impulsive yeah with
the Jake Paul Ron Paul was it local
Logan Paul Logan Paul
Logan Paul no those guys are good you
know um you know he's got a big penis I
assume you know I didn't see it but let
me
penis size meh sure yeah yeah on here I
don't know if we know if we know I do I
know yeah I mean it's 13.5 yeah 13.5 at
least okay yeah number one
yeah two three
yeah you said penis size is directly
related to stature to size that was you
right no I never said that you said that
I'm pretty sure you said a quote don't
quote me on it let me tell you something
about science my friend all right you
think Yao Ming has a small it's
proportional to the body okay
I make things
you said Yao Ming do you think Yao Ming
with a size 16 foot has a small penis no
that was that came up that's my point my
point is is this okay when they stay
like you know the stereotypes that you
know there's a stereotype they say they
say Asian men have small penises and I'm
you know I mean I think you should go by
your foot size I have nine right so
women think mine's mine's average I have
nine feet you're 14.
awesome what's your size foot size my
foot size is about a ten and a half nice
yours eight
I beat you yeah
yeah
well he's Japanese what is he I don't
know
you don't know the ethnicity of a man
that you're working with I think he's
trying that's insane that's insane no no
we don't work with him it doesn't matter
the first thing you ask is where are you
I just I never I don't know what color
it doesn't matter yeah
what are you no not him no no because
he's white but it could be like you know
we don't care
there could be a lot of things so this
is what you ask him when it comes back
in the room and they love it we love it
all right just listen what kind of
ching chong are you they love it they
love it it works it's so good in fact if
you go to Japan there's a manual right
and that's the first thing that's on the
manual what kind of ching chong are you
huh yeah yeah do you think that you look
Korean are you [ __ ] son of a I'm
curious I'm curious I'm just kidding
games are you playing around I know
you're I know you're Korean
you're acting so [ __ ] January 6th
right now dude oh my God yeah you're a
close friend of mine yeah dude a super
close
no
I don't look Korean to you what do I
look like then
what does he look like I think what do I
look like then I think it's some I mean
you're Korean man no no no no no spit it
out spit it out I want to have a good
relationship with you okay to be honest
when I see you sorry I got angry sorry I
think more so Japanese wow that's so oh
my God that hurts I it's amazing is that
painful well I mean the Japanese
oppressed Korea for very many many years
but you know what I'll go with it in
fact I'm 10 Japanese I did that 23andMe
and it's necessarily wrong you're not
necessarily wrong right where's the
ching chong at is it correct yeah yeah
he's out of the room all right yeah so
um how many like you guys live in Vegas
right you live there yeah I live in
Vegas yeah we initially lived in Santa
Monica together and then we moved to
Vegas together why because of the taxes
that was a big part of it yeah it's also
really nice there like I feel like LA's
kind of been going downhill what do you
think about that I'm not moving no I
don't care what you guys say I don't
care what Joe Rogan or anybody says to
go to Austin I'm not leaving La but has
it gone downhill like we're driving
through downtown we're at Eagle Rock and
I was telling the last time I was here
was like 10 years ago driving through
Eagle Rock it got bad like some of the
buildings were like half kind of like
dilapidated graffiti everywhere people
like roaming the streets in the middle
of the street I never remembered it like
that yeah but that's why I don't go
there where do you go just in my
neighborhood oh yeah you can't really
you know have an opinion about things
that you don't actually see you just
block it yeah back like let me just say
something okay when they said when back
in the day there's blood and Crips dog
what's up I feel like yeah I know but I
never went so I just didn't you just
because we I never went to Watts or
Compton right and checked it out I mean
I just don't pretend that it's not like
Venice like you ever get I didn't go
there man those are the worst kind of
homeless yeah what's the difference
between Venice because the women's and
Venice think they have talent
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check me out
all right and then you're like here's a
dollar what was that 80
s
what you happen yeah and they saw cap
dancing but you're like that's so well
they have some sort of instrument that
like made out of you know tin and you
know I mean because that's the paint the
paint cans I don't like the drums so
they think they have talent you know
what I mean
um which they probably do for
their level you know
what do you think
I just don't know what that means no no
the thing is what it is
you know you see the guy with the
electric guitar oh yeah the rollerblade
yeah
I was a kid but he's like he's like the
Denzel of that yes
right I feel like it's the drummers
that's one of them that I'm like
questionable I could just be hitting him
at some random Tempo I really don't know
right you can't fake that you know right
um how do you feel about the silver dude
that's like frozen I just see him oh
that's Santa Monica yeah but do you like
that guy no idea
what probably because it's the same
thing every single like you can go to
Vegas and you see the same silver guy
you you know exactly I know what it is
yeah you know exactly they're just
sitting really what they're doing is
just sitting here they are very
uncomfortable so there's something going
on why silver though why can't you be
another call I've seen gold you've seen
gold I've seen gold yeah yeah what about
[ __ ] bro I think that would be
questionable well you know 2023 the what
what what do you eat if you're painting
yourself right now you're pinning
yourself with a dark color isn't that
kind of going against whatever
how did you get
how did you get started in common
yeah
I don't want to talk about that that's
totally fine I wanna no I like it okay
cool but no yeah I don't how about this
let's segue into in a natural way okay
sure because I was like kind of like you
know we're going this for free and
they're like
you're obviously a funny guy we've
laughed more in the first 10 minutes of
this than any other podcast have you
always been funny
it's not
it's not funny I just like
what I do is I just I just kind of just
talk
you know what I mean it's I don't think
it's funny it's just my I'm still a
weird guy I think it's a skill is it I
can't I cannot be fine like that like if
I tried I honestly don't think I'm being
funny
I I honestly don't think the whole room
is laughing though yeah but I don't know
why because you're funny well let me say
that am I the little guy is that why no
I'm the little Asian Guy funny guy I
honestly didn't even take I mean I'm in
I'm a clown is that what I have no no
I'm kidding but no I
listen to me man
um you get a lot of girls me yeah yeah
to be honest you have a girlfriend no
why I don't have a girlfriend do I get I
don't take get a lot of girls I do my
best and occasionally I'll get dates
yeah but I would say I do a worse than
you would probably imagine well okay so
um this year how many girls have you
smashed zero
Christian huh no you tried yeah
hold on no no pause pause I didn't try
to smash yeah I you know I try to have a
loving relationship oh Jesus Christ what
but here's the thing it's it's hard and
also I I will how old are you 24 guy I
don't find it this is the age to do it
because let me just say something guy
all right when I was in my 10-year
relationship the thing that was in the
back of my mind was like I should have
done it more in my 20s why can't you now
I am doing it now I just woke up how is
that I love it is that good for you so
you feel so good
how are you good with the ladies how are
you good with them like what is it like
I think we're gonna find them where do I
find them yes let's start downtown the
homeless
you're the one you know the silver one
the electric guitar guy no um no I
know what I'm saying is this is be real
let's be real um because I don't um you
know when I was in my 20s I was too
afraid to even go for it because the
rejection
really hurt and now I think I just don't
really like care that much anymore like
I've had girls I've had hey you want to
hang out and I've heard I've had girls
go ew
now we're not gonna I just move on they
said you to you like ill yeah we're in
Hawaii
I swear to God it happened I was in
Hawaii bro I'm walking down the street
this blonde girl because she's from
Oklahoma how old is she she's white
probably
anywhere between
25 and 35. okay is that pretty good yes
and then her friend's like she's like oh
can I get a foe with you and I go yeah
and she and then her friends were like
like ooh they said utu they go oh who's
that guy right and she oh he's a convict
this and that and then and they go is
that you're gonna be your future husband
to the blonde girl and she goes ew a
bigger I took the photo and I left I
will say this much yeah I think you can
turn those though no you're not I am I
don't I don't see you yeah no like what
do you mean by the uh do you mean like
like well to some I'm pretty ooh
probably and to some I'm you as well
right and then there's some there's some
girls are ooh to me right so I think
we're out of understanding yeah yeah
yeah yeah
I think that you can turn some of those
ooh encounters like you can just keep
persisting and being the best person
that you can possibly be and I feel like
after enough time once you've proven
yourself to somebody you think there
needs to be that upfront chemistry
there's got to be some nope
because we're talking you're talking
we're talking about two different games
okay you're talking about finding the
love of your life
right and I'm talking about smashing
those are two different games God yeah
yeah but actually I I to be honest with
you um I think I like somebody right now
really I do like somebody
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back to the episode interesting yeah I
guess what sort of qualities do you like
about a person like that I like
um the opposite of what I am
I'm a dirty ethnic bastard
yeah I mean I spit
I spit in the coochie I do I spit around
the coochie and I don't apologize for it
I go right and they go what oh I don't
care yeah I mean but I like the opposite
the I like ones that are like that say
ooh oh no that don't say I like the ones
that are like I go to church I wake up
at eight in the morning I do yoga you
know what I mean and then I you know I
take my son to school you know I mean
there's normal normal people I mean I
don't want anyone to spit on me back
and then it becomes a weird thing you
know what I mean so it's like no I like
the opposite of like who I am you know
because I'm uh I'm a creature of the
night
and I want a angel of the day good a
good Yin and Yang yeah yeah I think that
makes sense I feel like that's a lot of
guys just in general are attracted to
like the proactive woman who like gets
up early and like you know takes the
kids to school they go to activities and
their life like I feel like those are
just generally accepted attractive
qualities in women yeah yeah yeah I want
you to say [ __ ] for to me
good what does that mean I don't know
but it's Asia and then I love it it's
gonna be some slur or something right I
think it's a hello I think it's a yes or
something in Japan
um yeah I mean um but right now because
I was in a 10-year thing
um
I'm not really
eager to rush into another long-term
thing right I just you know I just um
I'm not just trying to figure I'm trying
to I think I'm in a new metamorphosis in
my life yeah what did you learned
relationship
what did you learn from that
relationship oh well first of all I love
her still yeah you know um we have a
podcast together called tigerbelly and I
love her immensely she's my best friend
I learned a lot I learned um that I can
love somebody you know unconditionally
um even if it's not sex is not involved
really and
um I trust her like family you know I
really do
um I love her I love her whole family
and um
um I didn't really learn anything else
like politician answers
oh my God I'm sorry let's do it again no
about my point but I do love her and um
you know I know I'm going through
something right now in my life and I uh
you know I've been chasing this dream
and you know
for a very long time
and um
you know it's it hasn't panned out the
way I thought it was going to pan out in
many ways it's better than I ever
thought it would ever be it's a
nightmare as well but I um
I don't know I just need a change and I
don't know what it is but um it could be
Vegas it could be and when Paulie was
living there I was thinking about going
you know probably sure lived there for a
bit Yeah but um yeah I mean uh you know
that I mean you know but check this out
I mean Andrew Santino are doing eight
shows
in Vegas we got a like a kind of a
residency at a casino yeah which casino
we it's still one of the negotiations
I get so angry I'm so excited you know
what I should calm down no no keep it up
you know what guys let's Namaste Namaste
Namaste yeah um I think your little
hands thank you so cute they're proper
they're so cute holy [ __ ] they look like
um you know like cabbage patchy that's
it yeah I don't know anyway um
you have a girlfriend a fiance yeah yeah
and um how how long were you dating
before you uh how long has it been three
years actually the three years on the
day yeah wow and um what did she do uh
right now she's doing some personal
training um yeah she's on it good body
great is she taller yes you know so
funny how tall are you like five four
yeah me too me too right six foot yeah
but it's you've always did a good girls
taller right I mean everyone's taller
than me so I know I mean but if you saw
her like four foot six girl now
[Laughter]
you wouldn't do it right no not that
that's what their voices are like I was
just coincidentally been taller it's not
really been by like a choice it's just
like everyone is typically taller than
me I know but you do are you attracted
to taller women is what I'm asking
overall yeah yeah yeah because they're
your parents are yeah I didn't know that
really you like taller women yeah
because they got a little higher how
about yours your shorter woman I prefer
shorter women yeah but how tall are you
I'm six one uh with shoes on I'm six
feet would you date a dwarf probably not
let that sink in
I have a problem why not would you what
if their personality is great me too
look okay to be completely fairness this
is my honest answer I I don't know what
you're doing right now but you're
panicking and here's the deal here's the
deal dude all right there's no [ __ ] I
mean you'd like what you like all right
you know it's like would you look at me
right now dude
would you ever make love
dwarf something about you is so
comforting to be honest yeah it might
answer the question is yes you will I
think I would you know can I say this
too let me say this right you're a lying
bastard I'm not yeah I really am a piece
of [ __ ] right now I'm not you're acting
like a piece no no what you're doing is
a piece of [ __ ] move right and I like it
but you know what dude why don't you
speak your mind I really would here's
the thing let me explain this to you who
if I really actually did connect with
him on an emotional level I really I
would and here's the thing I will say
this about you I really what I admire
about you is probably let me finish go
ahead would you make love to a woman
with gigantism
that one
she's seven six do I get along with her
perfectly like she's got a head six like
a you know like a wrecking ball
she got ROM Rob Gronkowski's hands
and she's just like what's up I like
look at me we're in the eyes dude would
you make love to a woman yeah
come on uh at that point if she had like
a wrecking ball I would blowjo I get
this average woman with gigantism
great personality will you guys share
will you eat yourself the same Hobbies
you guys really laugh it up you really
get along
if I really really connect with her on
that deal let's go further then let's go
further I'll go further right
would you date if they existed okay now
we're going mythological a Minotaur
would I damn the mid door yeah what is a
Minotaur
that's [ __ ] [ __ ] up that's not a
human
yeah dude a Minotaur dude your race is
against mythologicals dude and I don't
[ __ ] like it I I honestly yeah yeah I
like mythological creatures a lot but I
don't guess what what guess what a
Minotaur is you just did a bowl of some
sort right yeah you don't know anything
about mythological creatures I'm gonna
throw some ear away okay so a Minotaur
is what
it's a bull body and human legs do you
know that no have you seen that in any
movie or anything no all right let's
let's go Lord what's a centaur I don't
know I know it sounds dude you know what
do you and I let me say something if I
was a woman
right I think we would you think because
we have the same kind of I I like it I
do like mythology I like Percy Jackson
you know Percy Jackson oh yeah yeah yeah
you read that no oh I was gonna say it
that would be good let's just move on
but um you don't want to send Tauros
well then you know man do you know what
a Seder is I don't know what that is a
Seder is goat lower half yeah and human
upper half whoa seder I've never heard
of that yeah and you could cover
yourself up if you're a sailor just with
some pants yeah and no one would ever
know [ __ ]
of it I can't believe you said I had
like a wrecking ball still to be honest
anyway so you know so you don't like you
don't like fantasy or sci-fi or anything
no not really so in the movies you've
never seen like Lord of the Rings I've
seen Lord of the Rings I like that Harry
Potter is great oh so you do like it
then you know I just don't know the
names like just throw out these names I
just don't know what they are do you
usually drink cups with two hands
I'm just I'm just curious
I don't mean that in any way it's just
the honest question I do
whatever I'm just curious because I've
I've personally
I haven't seen you're a one-hand guy I
am a one-hand guy yeah yeah why do you
just opt for the two-hand method instead
well I saw Trump do it once drinking
water he's both hands I'm like that's a
good way to do it he's such big hands
yeah I know he was like shaking it was
drinking it was great yeah yeah no I
don't know why but I just do okay it's
none of your business
that's a it's good to be here thank you
for coming yeah yeah um let me ask you
this your parents were are still
together they are you're not correct how
do you do this I could just look at it
no you are so innocent and pure
and kind of like unreal in many ways
I mean you're very like you shouldn't
exist right more menesque almost I know
you're Jewish well I'm but like
biologically yes because my mom is
Jewish yeah yeah but I'm not I didn't
grow up religious at all yeah but you
just look like a Americana just a
well-natured young man thank you man
right there's something about you and
there's an edge about you and there's
something about you that's
um Slytherin hmm yeah there's you know
what I did one of those Facebook quizzes
like which Harry Potter are you and it
was Slytherin I know it was yeah you
know I'm Hufflepuff nice to meet you can
I just ask you really quickly would you
make love with a centaur well I've never
seen a female Centaur so no what about a
would you make love with a Montour what
is it called a Montour a Montour
the the bowl one Minotaur Minotaur would
you ever make love with a Minotaur I've
never seen a female Minotaur either but
if hypothetically I mean they should
they probably do exist because you know
I mean how do they have kids it's in a
bowl just male like a ball
that's a good point that's a good point
but if there was some sort of thing like
you know I mean he was
and then I look at the the badge area I
go oh looks nice you know what I mean
and I know it's just you know I mean
bull penis cut in half and tucked and
satisfied
but that sounds good to you
that would be the best looking vagina
I've ever seen for me to like because
you're still
you know the bull half when you're
making love you know yeah so no I don't
think so no let's go human though ask me
some humans sure okay would you make
love with a quadriplegic explain to me
what that is that means you have no
limbs no arms no legs
well I thought I thought that's just you
can't move your arms realize
quadriplegic yeah yeah know what the
[ __ ] thing is thrown out yeah
okay well let's just say you have no
arms and legs yeah just don't use the
terminology because you don't know the
term okay
I really thought you know you're so
ridiculous go ahead okay someone without
legs and arms no matter I can have to
ask some questions yeah were they did
were they born without them or did they
lose it in a war they lost it in a war
no how they were riding their bike and
they got hit by a car they lost their
arms the legs were riding a bike
it was really brutal it was it was
brutal it was brutal yeah yeah
why not so that's your logic here's the
problem though with that it's not that
I'm not going to be a sexually attract
to them or you know I mean we're not
gonna get along it's just I'll end up
being like their Rickshaw almost like
carrying them around everywhere you know
what I mean yeah I just don't like that
aspect of it like I gotta go to the
bathroom
you know what I mean and then you gotta
you know what I mean right right because
someone with no arms and legs what do
they just
yeah and then you can roll around the
house just it's slithering that would be
[ __ ] weird no
yeah right or no I I mean you would have
to carry them around either you know not
Slither but like what are you doing oh
that's even weirder
they're just rolling around the house
that'd be [ __ ] weird but
I think that's oh
yeah harness like like a back something
like that or like
or like kangaroo thing a front pouch
like a front pouch stick it in the front
right and we can go ATV you know do
something right yeah I do want to
mention this go ahead that what I admire
about you a lot and something I'm trying
to learn from you is how are you so
Shameless and because I've realized
throughout my life I've been subjected
to a lot of judgment from random people
this guy one of the most judgmental
people I've ever met in my entire life
yeah and I do sometimes like you you
noticed it earlier how I felt like I was
kind of like wondering what the best
thing is to say because for fear for
judgment because I've had well you edit
this podcast right we do yeah well then
you can say whatever you want you can
edit it out but I don't want to be free
the more we include the better yeah we
edit out 40 of every podcast you really
okay so we I talked to so many other
podcasters very other very few other
podcasters edit out that much like we
had out maybe 20 of most podcasts so I'm
curious what said that makes you edit it
out that's what we edit it I can't say
it
yeah yeah like what what would get
flagged on YouTube so is this so that's
the metric it's just like hey with this
good flag when we make money you're
right you know and you know I mean there
was a time in in
um
in comedy
where you could say whatever you want
and there were no consequences and
there's there's so many deep
consequences now
and um you know I've gotten in trouble
for it so it's just like I just I mean
it sucks
you mean you can't say what you want to
say and
um regardless it's wrong or right I mean
you just kind of explore different ideas
but um I have never heard or I've never
really seen people get so like uptight
or sensitive as they are today as they
were back then I mean you have like the
Eddie Murphy specials and like all of
these things and it seems like people
are now going back decades saying well
you said this in the 1980s and that's
unacceptable and you should apologize
for it yeah it's terrible but um
I can't change anything
um
there's nothing I can do and so um I'm
playing by
it the rules you know what I mean that's
laid in front of me and um yeah I don't
know how long if it gets worse I don't
know how long we can do it but um right
now it's still fine we can still say a
lot of the things we want to say and
that's got to make you paranoid though
like in the back of your mind or you are
constantly thinking like oh I can't say
that what you have to do is this you
have to um and this is like
pretty serious
um
and it's sad you have to let go
of the things that they can take away
right so when somebody gets canceled
they go I'm going to lose this this and
this
and the reason why they freak out when
they're getting canceled is because they
there's they want to grab onto this
thing that they're going to lose right
so what I've had to do is like just
already have funerals for my other
dreams
right because it's like you know because
if they can't take that away
then I'm fine
yeah there's a real estate guy Ben Mala
yeah says whatever's on his mind does
not care at all yeah people love it yeah
but he is like you know everything he is
nothing really to gain from anything so
he's just like you know I'll say
whatever it doesn't matter to me either
way I'm set yeah it's fine but the
problem though is is that he doesn't
have like I act yeah right so you know
I'm on Sex in the City reservation all
these shows right and those are the
things that you know I mean that they
can take away and I love doing those
things I love doing those shows I love I
love the people I work with I love the
process of acting it's a dream of mine
to do it but I've had to let it go
because they can take it away
you know I mean and I'm not going to
allow myself right to live in fear yeah
right so I've already kind of like you
know if I don't act again I don't act
again
you know if I don't if certain parts of
my you know business is dead you know I
mean then so be it but is it is it the
love of doing that sort of stuff that's
keeping going or is it like the a dollar
amount behind it where it's like hey if
I had 50 million bucks I wouldn't care
I'd say whatever no no no no it's still
no it's still like I mean I I you know
I love comedy dude and I and I love um
I love doing it with Andrew I love doing
it with you know my own podcast as well
um there's the it's the love of doing it
you know but um
of course I mean you know you you do
make YouTube money and money you know
what I mean like you guys do and uh it
pays the bills and that's great and
we're blessed but um but you have to
have the love you have to want to do it
I do stand up every night I love doing
it you know
um
they can't take away stand up either
which is right they can't take away
podcasts so it's like um
I don't know it's been just really
interesting you know the last couple of
years you know it does seem like people
just want to get upset at something what
was the wink about I just I just felt
like it was so serious I had to do like
a little bit
Yeah like get it going yeah
yeah it does seem like though people are
just getting upset for the sake of
getting upset like they want something
to be angry at so they're purposely
looking for things to be upset listen
you can be upset and I'm upset about a
lot of things you know I'm a you know
there's a lot of things that I that
really trigger me and round me up right
I just don't
um
you know I don't I don't go on the
internet to destroy someone's life right
people have their opinions you know I
mean like Taylor Mars were green was
that her name you know that is I've
heard the name but I'm not wait you
don't know who Marjorie Taylor green is
well you just said she's Taylor Marjorie
Margaret Taylor I've never heard of it
I've never no I've heard her name before
politics right yes okay
there are things about her she says
really crazy Q Anon you know I mean kind
of things you know space lasers and all
these crazy things
but I would never like and I think I
think what she says is
totally bad for the country and you know
but you know I don't want to hurt her
I Just Disagree you know what I mean I
think the problem now is it's like oh no
I don't like what you said or I disagree
with you so you you should no longer
make a living
you know what I mean that's what I have
a problem with that yeah I think
disagreeing in silence is just gone now
like people they need to have their
opinion heard and they need to like
morally show their superiority over
somebody if the other person has an
opinion that they could spin as
unethical or something like that yeah
but you know but then again it's like
it's fine
but no I mean it's fine in the sense
that like you know I've
you know if I look back on my life I'm
51 I'm almost 52 years old you know and
I've just had a wild ride man
I've had a great ride I'm so blessed
I've seen so many things and I've
experienced so many things and I um you
know and trials and tribulations but
also I was able to travel the world and
your impact on people yeah and do comedy
and I have a great fan base I love them
all and I'm so [ __ ] blessed so it's
like at the end of the day it's like
there's really nothing to complain about
you know there really isn't
you know what I mean this [ __ ] guy
over here does it concern you at all and
do you think that the comedy is less
funny with these new social restrictions
well I think my the truth is this I
think that the reason why bad friends is
doing so well is because you know we
it's the kind of Comedy they just can't
put on TV and you know yeah and and you
know there's a lot of Ivy Leagues like
comedy people that don't like what me
and Andrew do you know they think it's
easy they think it's just like meat and
potatoes and whatnot I don't give a [ __ ]
listen if you don't like it listen to
something else but it's like I think
that the reason why we're resonating
with a segment of society is because
um you know that's how they fool around
with their friends these are the things
that they say you know what I mean at
home or at a party or whatever you know
I mean um we're just authentically being
you know I mean ourselves the way we are
it's funny because you know the other
day I was at the comedy store and you
know there was a bunch of comics back
there
and I I you know we're everyone's just
like the one the things that we were
saying were so funny and crazy and wild
and making fun of each other and I was
just basically like I stopped everyone I
go dude if we should just be recording
this because this is what how people
talk yeah behind closed doors you know
what I mean but it's like you know you
can't do it publicly because
people are afraid but
um and television has really gone it's
not funny it's just like a cookie cutter
yeah those late night show Taco I mean
never yeah what cracked gaggles really
from those Jimmy Fallon no Jimmy Fallon
yeah has he made you laugh probably yeah
this [ __ ] guy
to me
you know those late night like Jimmy
Fallon because he thinks Jimmy Fallon's
listening oh yeah no that's okay but you
[ __ ] you after Facebook
if you asked me in the last four years
have I no when I was 12 and I was like
just figuring out the barrier that's
even more hurtful so for Jimmy anyway
Seth Meyers he made you laugh I don't
know I don't even know who he is wow
um I like Jay Leno I like him
that's pretty funny yeah but he's not a
late talk show late night talk show host
he was one of the first you know
you know DJs I mean he in many ways we
wouldn't be doing what we're doing
without him you know he's very important
to that you know I know it wasn't
podcasting but it was like irreverent
really crazy yeah comedy his podcast is
coming back I see a lot of Clips showing
up now of Howard Stern on uh Tick Tock
yeah yeah Beetlejuice has made this
whole Resurgence I love him and like I
love it as memes
no you haven't where would I go is he
here I don't know I I'm just wondering
because you know have you met
Beetlejuice
have you I mean have you ever met um
Vladimir Putin
we could play this game all day long I
was just wondering if you had an alien
yeah no why would I meet him because
he's friends with like Stern who's a
comedian and then like I don't know it's
kind of let me ask you something is
Beetlejuice a comedian nobody's in that
group kind of Western you know how would
I meet him be real low let's think about
that honestly because because he's
friends with Stern I figured that
there's probably some I've never done
Stern I know well I didn't know that
actually that you'd never know
I love it I don't no I think he's just a
very Frank he's a comedian guy he's that
he's an edge he's just an edgy shock
jock DJ who says funny things sometimes
you know um
yeah I don't think as a comedian I
wouldn't consider him that though but um
I like your eyebrows thanks man you're
welcome man do you practice comedy is
this something you have to work on
do you come up with like jokes or is it
just on the Fly you just like got it
is that a boring question is it a bad
question
hold on
okay what you see you surprised how
natural is this to you of just coming up
with like just I'm not really anything
here's the thing yeah okay is it a
natural is that natural even I could say
something all right thank you for having
me on I really appreciate it but I want
to say this okay is I'm just talking to
you guys this is the way I talk I
understand right in my mind I was like
I'm gonna say this because it's gonna be
funny I don't do that I just say
whatever it comes through to my mind
like I just make [ __ ] up you know what I
mean yeah and it's just and people find
the funny but it's not like something
like like here's my muscle you know I
mean I'm going to show you that you know
it's not that it's just like I'm just
like talking but when do you realize you
have a talent I don't even think it'd be
funny this whole episode you said the
wrecking ball thing which I know but to
me to me it was the way for a long time
I saw a guy with gigantism one thing his
head look like a Wrecking Ball but
that's just like I know but in my mind
I'm like that I mean to me it's like
that's what it looked like to me but to
you you thought it was funny you know I
did audition a long time ago for Mad TV
which is a TV show schedule yes and I
wrote characters and so these are things
that I can do I can purposely write
something and be funny within that
parameter you know but it's like right
now you know I mean I didn't write any
of this now I'm just talking to you guys
but you're right I mean it's like
I've been in it for so long I don't
really really think about in those terms
really you know I just kind of just do
you know I'm like the Joker I just do
things you know what I mean and I I just
show up to things the most important
thing in life guys is to show up and
just to do it
right everything else is like you know
you can do it harder or more perfect but
it's just the whole idea of I think the
problem we get in our society is people
just live in this deep
fear
that they can't do things right and I'm
gonna tell you guys right now
I literally think I have quarter Down
syndrome like I really I'm really dumb
you know
I have never read a book I got all apps
in high school I went to four rehabs
three rehabs in my life three or four I
don't remember my behind us is that yeah
you know I have no skill set whatever
the only thing I know how to do and I've
done right in my life is I'll just try
to do it yeah you know I'll show up in
an audition I'll give it a go you know
what I mean I'm scared like everyone
else I have fear like everyone else but
instead of like not doing it I do it you
know and I think that's the only thing I
did right in my life it's just to put
one foot in from the other and say [ __ ]
it I'm doing it and and I think in the
process of doing that you get more
confident
you know like before I did that you know
when in my early 20s I couldn't get any
girls or anything I couldn't even like
if I got pulled over by the cops I
couldn't look in them in the eyes
I was just so afraid of authority and
because my dad was so abusive and stuff
and so but then when I was started doing
stand up I realized oh it's just it's
that confidence seeped into other areas
of my life where I could like look at a
girl and go hey you want to hang out
you know because you know an audience
not laughing is a devastating you know I
mean rejection but then once you get
used to that and you realize what it is
and what it is is just people's opinions
and you can have a bad night and it
doesn't kill you and you know I mean it
doesn't mean anything if you have a you
know a rejection doesn't mean anything
yeah yeah where did the shamelessness
come from was that something that was
shame what's Shameless about me you're
not fear for judgment I feel like you oh
I am you are yeah but you still do it
regardless yeah
so you overcome that well I mean I don't
even know what do you mean by
shamelessness but you say things that I
would not say like what all those had
like a wrecking ball like the center the
sentence make love with a centaur like
but how but but in my mind how is that
bad it's a question that I ask myself at
night if I if I watch Lord of the Rings
right like when I have sex with that
character yeah I'll go you know I wonder
what it would be like to um make love to
like a group of Hobbits
how do I get in that that circular door
you know what I mean that's what people
call intrusive thoughts right yeah so
but you you give them energy I mean you
let them Foster yeah there's like this
TV show called body bizarre insane I've
never seen it yeah it's it's on um
Discovery or some natural geographic and
it's like you know they have little
segments of people with like I'm not
making fun of them and I'm sorry I don't
know why I'm smiling I'm not gonna smile
yeah yeah but you know like people that
were like have like a 90 pound tumor
coming out of their face why are you
laughing I'm not laughing I'm not less
insane I'm really not laughing yeah
you're smiling that's insane dude he's
laughing Romulus is laughing yeah I mean
like some kid in some India you know
what I mean and he's got like I've seen
the antlers like hands coming out of
their heads they go hello that's so
[ __ ] up dude that's so insane you
can't do it it's insane what you're
doing dude that's like a [ __ ] they
were born like that
and they and they get
you know I mean yeah so it's like so I
watched that and I you know in my mind
I'm like I don't know why but it's like
even the guy with the tumor is like I
wonder what you know I mean like if it's
a woman if it's a woman with a 90 pound
two more I go if there's no tumor down
below you know what I mean you know I
mean could you still smile I mean I just
think of things like that it's wrong
probably you know what I mean but you
need therapy dude I do yeah you're mean
I mean yeah you make fun of people with
mutations yeah I don't think it's I
don't know okay
but like you know they have like Siamese
wins but real people's lives some of
those I've been I've questioned the
logistics of like how that would like
the Siamese twins won one of the
logistics the the two girls that are
conjoined at the head
um they were talking about dating and
they were like one of them wanted to
date and the other one didn't want to
date yeah and it's like how does that
work if one goes out like wants to you
know do stuff but they're conjoined at
the head and the other one doesn't want
to be a part of it well that's why I
developed a product from them what's the
product right it's a it's a wall
but it's cut out right so they put it
between right sure whether you know I
mean where they're you know what I mean
yeah where they're conjoined I have a
full-blown wall and I have different
styles I have brick you know I have a
metal one I have a wooden one like I
have one customers what it would just be
probably a couple well I customize yeah
but for other things jack up the prices
imagine so you put a wall between them
right and so no you're gonna be like
this and you could do whatever you know
I mean are they they have two bodies two
bodies okay good yeah well yeah so you
know I mean I mean they could do what
they're doing there and it's soundproof
the wall how much would it cost sounds
expensive for a movable wand it's like
fifteen thousand dollars
what the profit margins on that kind of
e no I mean it's cost 2 500 a minute
yeah I'm gonna charge fifteen thousand
that's pretty good right yeah it depends
on what's up I mean and we cater it to
other people like sometimes it's like
you know I mean there's one body and two
heads have you seen those ones okay I
don't think they'll survive
one person can have a relationship with
somebody else because I feel like you'd
have you'd effectively be having a
relationship with two different people
it's difficult dude
in fact I would say that it's almost
impossible that's why I created the wall
man but you're right it's like what do
you do I think what you'd have to do is
I mean what I would have done
I mean my brother would be dead
you would eat them no he would just be
like dead and I'll just go you know I
mean like I would probably strangle him
at night
wouldn't you tell your other one that
might affect you too
at the doctors I was like hey just
supposedly hypothetically if Steve died
you know me wink wink right would it
kill my body and the doctor goes I I
don't think so
why wouldn't you just get caught and
just like sever the two he would just be
ahead of that point because usually they
don't separate them because I'll tell
you what can I tell you one
yeah this is crazy what about what to
say I think the reason why is because I
would want more of the head part
wait you wouldn't I want more of the
head part because when you're in surgery
right right in surgery they'll go 50 50
on the head part that we're sharing
right yeah but I would want a little bit
more so I could just have more like room
to mold you know I mean that opening or
whatever 51.49 no no no no because he's
gonna want you're gonna be more head
parts so I just know this in my mind
right and then I'm gonna be like I'll go
yeah just doctor just you could just cut
half of his head and we'll just mold it
you know I mean into my you know what I
mean after he's dead or something like
that yeah yeah I'm a thinker that makes
sense yeah
what an insane idea huh pretty good huh
I don't think we should make fun of
people like that that's sad it's hard
right what if the ones that like there
was two girls I mean I guess
they got a driver's license and one cop
what and one cop that was a great movie
you see that jacket two girls one cup to
me I feel like you can squirt like you
know I mean things in your butthole to
make it look like poo yeah and they
could squeeze out like you know you know
that icing chocolate icing the whole
video came out as fake
Is that real smoothie it's real yeah
yeah they drank a strawberry smoothie
yeah threw it up yeah and then injected
fudge that's what happened that's why
they did it yeah that's the only way you
could do it there's no way you could eat
blue like that
there's no way
why do you love her just the way you
said there's no way you could eat food
like that right would you
I would not no certainly not okay what
about this 20 million tea my pool yeah
but dude that would be it would be a
tough day I mean a 20 million dollars in
a day is pretty you know is that weird
that you make that kind of money though
yeah that's crazy you make a lot of
money I make 20 million how much do you
make I don't know you don't know you
gotta have an idea I don't have enough
like a ballpark
can we guess no I'll tell you what I
don't know um I've never asked who do
you have to ask
um I have a got money guy and I when I
first signed them 15 years 15 years ago
I got um
I don't want to know
how much money I have I don't wanna I
don't want to live in a life in a world
where I'm like always looking at my bank
account worried and this and that so
um yeah I don't know but the only
problem is how much does he take he
takes uh two percent of your income of
your income
he has multiple clients then Millions
now like a really credible ones so how
does it work do you just go to them say
hey can I afford this today or like if
you spend too much he's like hey you got
to cut back no I call him like I call
them yeah five days ago and I said I'm
thinking about buying a new car all
right go ahead it doesn't matter he goes
no
but you got to tell them the price of
the car right no a couch a couch couch I
said sorry couch it could be like a
cloud couch though 15 grand or it could
be Ikea yeah I could do 15 grand couch
you know what I mean but you have no
idea how much you make I don't know how
much I have Oh either
sometimes Andrew will go
this is what we're making this month
you're like oh wow that's crazy you know
I mean but I don't really think about it
yeah I mean I don't really um you
curious no is there anything you because
I think the numbers really low I'll just
be depressed and I'll start panicking
sure if I need to do more right but if
you don't know then you just kind of
just I just live my life see okay yeah I
mean what if the number is high what if
it's like a big it's probably high yeah
but probably could be low I mean for me
it's like I know that like
like I asked my money guy I go
you know how long can I not work yeah I
mean
um
until
um I run out of money yeah he goes a
long long time
so you can go out a long long time
without working and you'll be fine you
know I mean so just as long as I know
that I'm fine so basically the way to
figure it out well I'm not going to tell
you
you don't know
okay you take your expenses you're going
to multiply that by about 30
maybe 33 and that's probably how much
money you have your monthly expenses
sorry annual sorry annual expenses I
don't even know what that is okay I
don't know what I pay for my mortgage I
don't know what I pay for my car I don't
know what insurance costs I don't know
what my lighting light utility cost I
don't know all that's taken care of
every bill every Bill I've never I don't
even know where the phone bill I don't
even know where to go to do it kind of
sounds nice I'm not gonna lie to like
not have to worry about like ever
missing a payment on something that
what's his name I'll call my guy and I
go um
do my cards now my credit card's not
working he goes what's the problem he
calls he goes oh well it's been you know
hacked or what do you call it um stolen
fraudulent projects fraudulent freeze on
it and so you're gonna have to use that
other card for like a week we'll get you
another one that kind of thing but I
don't really worry about it and you tell
them the same thing for investing it's
like invest my money for me just do
whatever you think is best safe yeah
yeah so he goes yeah and um like I know
that he bought me many like 15 years ago
he bought me
um like a a a condo or an apartment
complex or something we went in with a
group sure and it's doing well you know
I don't know so I just kind of like let
him do it I don't do why do you why do
you why do you want to know well I mean
we're a money channel oh that's kind of
what I do so like yeah yeah that's all
you are yeah yeah my internship business
yeah I mean my entire main channel is
about like investing Building Wealth
saving money is a big one so my thing I
can call you for help then I'm not a
financial advisor but I know but I can
just give you go hey what do you think
of this you could get my opinion for
sure yeah I'm happy to do I can get your
number is that what it is yeah it'll be
real my number yeah for real all right
yeah it'll be hurtful I mean my stuff is
like pretty basic I'm missing that like
index funds are best for most people
save your money don't buy Starbucks is a
big one save money just to waste like
what do you believe I'm making a home oh
you're one of those guys like you don't
now legitimately I just I make coffee at
home
I'm really cheap oh you're so cheap yeah
oh I don't want anything I'm not gonna
call you I don't want your number it's a
it's a prize [ __ ] crazy yeah I
believe if you could save money in the
small things it transfers over to
everything else it's like eating a snack
like if you're going to the gym you want
to get in shape you know a little snack
and Eminem isn't gonna hurt you but it's
like it's 650 you wouldn't have bought
it no
shoes that works yeah those are the ones
I was wearing yeah 500 bucks but they
were free actually my entire outfit is
free I say this all the time oh my God I
wouldn't hate to date you oh what did
you get your fiance what do you mean
like for a gift for a gift yeah sushi
okay yeah okay why do we make sushi at
home I don't know I don't really know
how to make sushi like that I mean it's
easy it's a better deal to go and get
all you could eat sushi in Vegas for 30
than it is to go and make it at home
it's cheaper
okay it's very interesting okay so it's
like this it's like um
going to
all you can eat sushi yeah you know what
I mean at a gas station
or go to awesome which is a they used to
be a Michelin star social restaurant
it's really good yeah do you like ice
cream
[ __ ] guy dude this piece of [ __ ]
right [ __ ] you dude do you like ice
cream who the [ __ ] don't like [ __ ]
ice cream bro that's like a ridiculous
question man I will say I actually don't
like ice cream that much [ __ ] guy
it's true I prefer brownies cookies
chocolates and stuff like that ice cream
is too cold and it's hard to eat fast oh
you're one of those fast eaters oh I eat
so fast yeah you don't enjoy it I do
enjoy it no you don't you can't enjoy it
if you're eating it fast I enjoy it to a
higher degree for a shorter amount of
time I've thought about this but you
don't know how to save her no
you have your savored
and you go wow
I'm the opposite of that so you got you
when you guys are very practical if you
do that in a restaurant you do that when
you eat [ __ ]
you go okay good night I'm like what the
[ __ ] what do you do what what do you do
safer dude I'm down there till it's done
I'm I slow it bring up my you know my
napkin and my knife you know man but
this you know
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you know and do all that stuff right but
you you're like you're done you're not
good dude you guys change your ways man
slow it down when you eat anything you
eat fast too huh I do
I'm a pro you're a rabbit [ __ ] right
now I'm a practically yeah what do you
[ __ ] you know when he [ __ ] dude
right you could tell he's a [ __ ]
power rabbit [ __ ] right this guy right
right and they're like I do nothing
and then you're done and then you're
like you know man you're done and you
call your accountant
got rabbit [ __ ] by you it's insane
dude stop that too yeah yeah yeah yeah
stop it I'm checking my credit score
afterwards yeah see that's so weird that
you do that yeah yeah do you not have
credit karma you just do what your
credit score is I don't I don't even
know what it is okay
like I said dude I don't
um care that much
you know but um
there were times in my career where I
did care because I had no money well
when you have no money then you look
because it's like you know you have 475
dollars in your bank that's all you have
yeah then you have to go or what can I
eat this week right but when if it's
anywhere above if you make anything
above
a half a million a year why would you
have to check yeah that's a lot of money
how were you making it buy though what
would you do to get by on like you know
when you have like 400 in the bank
account I would do random like one night
gigs
there was always like these things like
triple runs back in the 90s or like
there were all these weird clubs that
you could play like in Tucson and so
one-nighter and they give you like 300
cash or whatever but I would do those
kind of things I would also like like
one time I uh
The Comedy Store um owned a theater
called the Richard Pryor theater I
forgot what street it was on but it was
abandoned and um they told me there they
go there's people living in there and
you and a bunch of like door men at the
comic store have to go and this is off
the clock and you guys have to clear
them out so we came with sticks and
stuff you know I mean so I would do
random weird jobs like that but I would
do anything to make money like when I'm
desperate for money I'm willing to do
anything yeah I'll wash dishes you know
I mean I'll do grout work I don't know
what that is but you know sure but I
like you know I'll you know spank or
whatever you know what I mean but
where'd you get that work ethic from
it's not work ethic I'm lazy ask anyone
everyone everyone I'm sorry I get energy
everyone knows I'm a lazy [ __ ] face very
lazy but I don't also want to eat and
survive and also you know were you when
when was the last time you were poor
high school maybe were your parents were
poorer they were very much paycheck to
paycheck yeah oh yeah but it was never
the point where like we were ever
concerned about like not having food or
not having like a roof over our head do
you give your parents money now
um to some degree what do you mean it's
just some degree I do but I know I've
always said my mom money you know I mean
it's a good it's a good thing to do I
want to be a good son
um but um so you're a poor in high
school how about you when's the last
time you were poor I don't think I was
ever poor but there were definitely
times where I would not like all of my
friends would be going out to eat and I
wouldn't buy anything because I didn't
have it poor oh my parents had money
they just wouldn't give it to me like I
just didn't oh yeah so if there's no
time in your 20 how old are you now 20
20 that's about 24 yeah
such a baby I was the guy in the friend
group that would never eat when we all
white for like three months I mean
you're only 25 years when from 18 to 20
what the [ __ ] you're talking about all
throughout High School I mean what do
you use I'm talking about like in your
20s late 20s you're living with 12 guys
in a two-bedroom apartment which is what
I did and you're sleeping like sardines
like it's Amistad right and you no one
can eat and you're like you like I was
in despair
there was many times in my career where
I was in despair I um like I've gone
through so many like phases in the
comedy business you know I mean where
stand up was dead or you know I mean
this was in and this was in you know I
mean I've been able to figure out how to
like kind of adapt to each era when
you're poor you know
but you know when you have some money
why why so I've a lot of people that
were poor at some period of time in
their lives are less scared of going
back to being that because they know
what it was like and they know it it's
not like the worst thing in the entire
world it's the worst thing in the whole
world you really think so being poor so
I know I've heard this from plenty of
people that have been in situations like
that where like okay I could always go
back to sleeping on my parents couch and
I'm totally hold that that's why they're
not afraid of well I could you know yo
you're right I mean I could go to my mom
like if really things went bad
you know um because I bought my mom's
house and you know it's a small little
house in uh Phoenix
so if I if things got really bad I could
go home
live in my room
and do that it would be so depressing
but yeah I guess I could do that but I
think that that I'll be so depressed if
that happened wouldn't you be depressed
I don't know I think I'll be fine what
about you living at your mom's house
yeah probably no money yeah I don't know
I don't think I'd probably find with it
for but I love going back to this I do
it like at least once a month and I stay
there yeah we have to have more empathy
for people
people are struggling out there what do
we do
you think there's do you think there's
gonna be a recession
bro bro
that little Gap
when that happened was so awkward and so
good it was so uncomfortable good right
it's almost as if like I said something
and it went to a different Multiverse
and you received it in a different you
know what I mean plane almost yeah that
was insane oh like
did you see that right I go what do we
do you know
like something [ __ ] weird habit
like he has no empathy you have no
empathy is that what it is trying to
think
that was insane wow that was
uncomfortable holy [ __ ] dude don't ever
do that again there's like 20 questions
in my head I don't know what happened
though but you [ __ ] crazy I know I
threw that out there dude you broke down
almost for a second and you rev back up
oh my God that was insane let's just go
to uh yeah no because you're not
functioning correctly yeah I got a
question yeah go ahead because you
mentioned in a podcast that you became a
comedian because you didn't like the
fact that you felt like other people did
not like you what did you became a
comedian because you thought other
people didn't like you and I never said
that you said that on a podcast I
listened to the podcast earlier today it
was on Lex Friedman you think you always
thought people didn't like you yeah so
you became a comedian oh yeah yeah I did
say that I did say that yeah jokes and
be a funny person because that's an easy
way to get people to like I don't know
exactly what I said but um yeah I mean
you know I don't think that it's strange
to think that you know I mean people
don't like you I mean I have a lot of
friends really you know I I had a core
group of friends but I wasn't
popular in any kind of way you know so
it's like I felt invisible is what I I
think when I wanted to say every time I
would walk into a place I would feel
invisible like no one was seeing me or
noticing me so what did you do to change
that exact date you just felt more
comfortable being yourself and saying
the things that were on top of your mind
and stuff like that no I just started
doing stand-up that was it yeah because
you know it was like
um
the first time where it's so sad to say
even but it's the first time where I
felt like okay like at least you know I
mean the focus is on me for a second you
know and
you know it felt um
like I was being seen or whatever in the
beginning but then you get used to it
like anything else but yeah I mean it
but what it did help me with is like I
think I said this before early in the
podcast where it helped me with
the confidence
to go out in the real world and be seen
it's almost as if like I was like it
transferred over into the public you
know I mean even with though I wasn't
even famous you know when I went to my
waiting job for instance there was just
more of an era about me of more
confidence you know what I mean and that
you know I mean with people would spot
respond to me in a different way it's an
upward spiral of success like you get
one little win and it's like you get the
confidence to another one and that gives
you the confidence to another one it
builds on each other but like you have
to imagine I'm you know 1995 I started
yeah okay and I've been doing it since
then okay so it's like
um
and back then there was no internet
so I had to do it the old-fashioned way
which is like slow and painful
you know a billion gigs
terrible gigs night after night going on
the road to a Holiday Inn in the middle
of a desert and doing it in front of
three [ __ ] rednecks or whatever and
that's constant right for years no money
you know now it's like kids instantly
become famous because of tick tock or
whatever which is fine I have no you
know I mean that's your life you know I
mean and good for you but
I I did not experience that you know
it's it's we were talking about the
other night a bunch of comics older
Comics were like it's
thank God for the internet because it's
like you know it just became easier to
reach an audience you know it's like it
went from like you know what it is it's
like
La used to be 12 Gatekeepers
like 12 people
the if like eight of them didn't like
you good luck really right but now it's
like oh you know what we don't need you
I'm just gonna go to the people
because that's what you're blocked you
were blocking me from the people yeah
before by not putting me in [ __ ] right
so now we can just go to them and then
that's now I'm like see yeah like I
always knew that but it's like so for
The Gatekeepers are they the ones that
like comedy clubs or no Gatekeepers were
like um TV and movies well like one of
The Gatekeepers that did like me was I
thought was Allison Jones she was she's
one of the greatest casting directors
and she always booked me in things you
know I mean I was you know the dictator
and Curb Your Enthusiasm and you know
love you know Apatow enjoyed Apatow
stuff you know what I mean and I always
loved her she was always like I felt
like she got me and she but I I would
love to name names yeah I'm this close
to doing it but like they just wouldn't
give me the time of day
they didn't see it they would say things
like he's not a star or we don't see it
they'll say that out loud did you
believe or internalize that when yeah
you you do believe it yeah oh yeah well
because then you know that they hired
your friend yeah I mean you're oh my
friend's more special to them you know
than me or whatever but then it's like
you go to the people and people are like
no no that's legit
I mean it's yeah it's like going right
to the [ __ ] tap yeah is that it's
just like instant feedback I've heard is
when you post something like that you
could tell within a minute how it's
received
but what's also helped me with it's also
helped me
get into projects so much easier now
like you know reservation dogs Sex in
the City and Magnum PI were the latest
three shows I was on they were all
offers right I mean they just like you
want to do it whereas if that happened
15 years ago
if even if I could get an audition which
I would never have gotten one
you know I mean you're you're getting
pitted against 50 other people it's just
like a long shot yeah it's never gonna
[ __ ] happen but now it's just like
you know what I don't need that I'll do
this and now they're like well come play
and I'm like oh I will
how much time are you dedicating now to
your podcast versus everything else like
uh I guess job wise like it has has the
podcast gotten to a point now where it's
like you know you don't need anything
else
is that the goal I do need other things
because it's like it doesn't fulfill
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all my desires
um
but no because I I have to do stand up
sure and I do love acting you know um
but um for right now it's where I make
most of my money if I toured more
I could make more money doing that but
I'm going out with Andrew you know I
mean so we're doing we just did 26
cities we did San Diego you know a
different gigs and it's been incredible
I mean
you know I you know I used to sell
give me I could sell out a comedy club
but now it's like we're doing these
theaters and it's it's so [ __ ]
amazing you know so um I'm not gonna
quit podcasting um I love it but I want
to do all the other things as well but
it's like um
but it's also at the end of the day I
don't know what's an ax do you with AI
coming around the corner we have no idea
what the next fad is going to be the
next Tick Tock the next Vine yeah I mean
I mean people like unlike movies and
television shows are [ __ ] dying
because of the internet now you know
what I mean
um this is people can consume other
things you know and they and one day
they might get tired of us
they might get tired of YouTube I think
for the next few years I think it's
podcasting and shorts and I've seen a
lot of comedians on Tick Tock who's that
one guy who just maybe it's him who just
rips off the the crowd yeah Matt Rife
yeah and he's just posting his
three-minute segments on Millionaire on
Tick Tock but the amount of money that
he has to be making right now because
he's been playing over one minute
millionaire my guess he's probably
making a million a month just with I
mean I feel that I don't want to get
into his business but I know the deal
that I was in the high Millions yeah oh
yeah yeah I believe it yeah he's killing
it but he deserves that yeah Matt Rife
was somebody that I knew for a very long
time and he was always doing it how did
you meet him he's a local you know the
comic that we would see at gigs and
stuff I mean he's a kid that did the
business he he has Street Credibility
yeah that's why Matt Rive making it
doesn't
it makes me happy yeah it makes me go
you know what that kid [ __ ] deserves
it
um because I know he's been he did the
the deal you know when people don't do
the deal I don't have respect for it
what do you mean by the deal the
suffering through it okay
there's gonna be some suffering yeah you
know I mean you got to go you know you
got to come to LA or New York and go if
you want to be a stand-up and go through
that process uh because that's where the
best Comics are right New York and LA
right you got to go to those cities and
you go listen I did it no money
showed up no one knew who I was they
treated me like [ __ ] and I looked at
everyone I went you'll see one day um
and I Through Time slowly crawled my way
up you you know like any like anyone
that makes it Taylor Tomlinson young but
I know that she grinded I know she's a
part of that that scene you know I've
seen her around as a young person you
know
um name you know anyone uh now I'm
curious when you see these people do you
know instantly that they have what it
takes or do you think this is something
where it's like I they have the
perseverance and the dedication they're
gonna make it no no you either have it
you're done but yeah I have seen people
go and go and not laugh and go that
guy's gonna make again like it's not my
brand of Comedy sure but I can I I look
at it and I go you know what dude this
guy's so good I just it's not my thing
yeah I mean yeah I can do to see that I
mean I I feel like I have a good sense
of things sometimes people surprise me
though you know I'm not right all the
time you know what I mean but for the
most part I could kind of see something
uh yeah that person like I was there
when I first saw Andrew
Sentinel the first time I saw Andrew
Santino this is 12 you 14 I don't know
how long ago many years ago and I sat
there and I was in the original room and
I saw him perform and he was young
and I went
and I was sitting there with another guy
and we looked at each other and went
yeah that guy's good
like you just can tell you know do you
feel offended when people use words that
are like derogatory towards no I don't
get offended by anything enough I get I
get offended by Behavior
right actions you know if I see somebody
do something terrible
but if it's in comedy right I don't get
a bad fan then I'm kind of the same I've
never been sensitive if I know someone's
joking like even if they use a slur
towards me or something something I
subscribe to I'm totally fine with it as
long as I know it's like they don't
actually have that like Angry vitriol
for me yeah the problem is though is
that um
people that are fans of mine know pretty
much how I do things
and how I deliver things and say things
but you know I've fallen into situations
where people that have no idea who I am
and they listen to like a little clip of
a
you know it's problematic to them you
know
um and I hate that
you know see I think I don't get
offended but I do think some jokes can
be distasteful I think like um you know
like animal abuse I think of like really
like like some brain like the submarine
jokes I didn't find the funny I wasn't
offended I was like yeah you know I get
the humor behind it but I was like ah
it's I don't know I mean for me it's
like you know like I know Jimmy Carr you
know Jimmy Carr he's an English comic
one of the best
his jokes are so [ __ ] dark and edgy
inner men and they're so good I mean
just just the writing in it is so good
the switches and it's like he says
[ __ ] up things and it's in the in the
form of a joke yeah it's in the context
of a comedy whatever whatever you know
what I mean it's fine this is not real
life even me talking to you guys right
now this is me isn't me talking to my
friend you know I mean at Starbucks or
whatever no this is an elevated
exaggerated half the things that I say I
don't even know what the [ __ ] I'm
talking about I don't even think I
believe half the things I say or do you
know what I mean I'm just here to fill
the gaps and my mind goes oh this will
be good let's try this let's try this
yeah but it's like this is not real
I mean this is entertainment yeah it's
our version of this is not how you
really are that's no no because if we
were no that's if we turned all this off
and we sat down
right you would be more free to say
certain things I would say yes
I don't want to say that I don't want to
say that yeah maybe like 25 but that's
not still essentially who you are in
real life right it's still an an
elevated or you know I mean an
exaggerated version of who you are yeah
you know
but um good job thanks for having me on
wait we got to show you we gotta we
gotta talk about a video Yeah I wanted
to say congratulations
on the body transformation because I saw
this video of you
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