Bethel Selectboard - September 14, 2026 [BS]

We value the participation of all members of our community and encourage open positive discussion even when opinions differ. Please keep comments respectful and focus on the issue rather than pointing fingers so we can work together in a productive and positive manner. Call the meeting to order and approve the agenda. >> I don't have any changes to everybody. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> All right. And we don't have any appointments and we have public comment. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. So Chris and Dri. >> Yeah, Chris and Dri have public comment. >> Yeah, they were we didn't I didn't put it on the agenda to go over the the results of the survey. They were just going to give us a brief overview. Um and then obviously the bigger discussion will be at the next meeting when we have Greg's input and everything else. But Chris and Dri were just going to give us a little overview of the results that are in the packet. Now >> um so just to u go back to the the uh the questionnaire uh ended uh August 31st. Um everything got tallied. Um the process that that was taken on us which was mostly mostly detail was you know as they came in treated it kind of like a like mailin ballots like they were the chain of command when they came in they were stamped so that you knew what date they were received. They were put into a secured box. that box was taken and put it into the safe at night. So, it was um you know, a little more than you would normally do for a survey. So, uh and then everything was compiled onto the uh the worksheets that you see. So, and and when we say everything's on there, so nothing has been lock left off that. Um in some cases, some of the comments are the exact comment that was on maybe an area that someone didn't need to comment, but we just felt the need to share those. Um, when you get into the the large amount of comments towards the end, you'll see sometimes that there'll be a comment with like an eight next to it. It means that eight people had a very similar response rather than write it out eight times. So, similarly, um, and then kind of go back because it's kind of weird. Um, you know, committee went through at the beginning to find out, you know, how would we be able to tell if we had a successful survey or not? That was uh one one piece that you know how many people does it take to be successful. So when you're doing a mail-in ballot type survey if you get back 15 to 20% that is called a successful survey and then there's different um demographics from there like if it's a more targeted survey you know 20 to 30% but we felt that ours was mostly a a mail-in um survey slightly targeted but mostly a mail-in survey. So the 15 to 20% and and at that time uh you know roughly we have you know around 1,600 of individuals that were sent the survey. So so we felt like our target was around 400 that would be like a quarter. So if you kind of did hit that you're still in there. Um and we did end up having uh 376 individuals. So um you will also see that it is broken down um from taxpayers versus registered voters um on that so that you can see that 324 people were taxpayers or property owners. um 51 people were registered voters with the town and you know we did keep track um that there were some others so people that were not or did not identify as one of those two that we did at least collect the information um so we we felt that we did have a positive it ends up being about 22% um feedback that we had from individuals so I don't know if teacher wants to talk a little bit maybe on a higher level of the questions. >> So, you'll see um on your spreadsheet and you should have also gotten a copy of the survey uh with your again just as a refresher. No. Okay. >> I didn't include cuz I figured they got one in the mail. >> That's true, right? I should have Yeah. And maybe you filled it out. So, um, basically all I did was take the question as it was stated on the survey and then put it on the spreadsheet and then we did I did Paul when I say we Paul Valley came in and helped uh when we had an especially high run of return surveys. Um, we just did tick marks and then at the end we I counted all the tick marks and you know you can see the numbers really speak for themselves as to per question. Um, as Chris did mention on question three when we asked the public, you know, if taxpayers do not support building a new pool, would you financially support appropriations for another pool? Um there there were actually several people that did not have didn't circle either one but had a comment like you know don't know or maybe or depends on how much you know so I felt it was really important that those people still had that voice you know and had their concern um here noted. Um the fourth one, the the fourth question, which was really the the heart or the meat of the survey, which was rank your top five amenities. Um there were as the survey started coming in, there were quite a few people that um did not rank. they put a line through them and then had a comment, no way or do not tax us for this or and so I just felt like there could be a lot of room for interpretation as to why they did not rank. So, but I felt that it was important for just the note of the survey that 49 people chose not to rank. And and so what I also did um on the third page of the spreadsheet is if they did not rank but they had comments, I still noted the comment for you to read. So that's the third page of the um spreadsheet. Then because the comment section was section was so popular, I did a separate um spreadsheet of just the comments. And like Chris noted where you see the plus plus one plus 8 plus two that was essentially multiple people kind of saying if not verbatim they were saying a very similar thing. Um, and so you can see that the comment section is quite um, varied from people who were like gung-ho to people who were suggesting that the town buy their property to expand the trails to, you know, whatever, but they're all there. Um, and so that's really that's really it. >> Thanks. >> More than willing to actually have it on the >> Yeah. agenda that we could have. >> Okay. Thank you. Yeah, we're gonna have um the um fundraising group uh which Greg Hughes is the chair of, thank you, will will um be uh is on the schedule for the next, you know, meeting. Um the um but anyways, but thank you and thank you for the work that you did your whole committee. It was great. And as I said before, so their committee is now disbanded. they're not meeting anymore and um but I appreciate all the time it took and you know for you to get the survey organized. Thank you guys a lot. You guys put a >> Do you have to mute yours, Julie? >> Uh, garage 134. >> Okay. >> You should have excellent cell service because of the tower, right? >> Yeah. >> But, um, thank you. All right. Thanks Chris and Dietri and the whole crew for all the work you put into it and all the facts and figures and all your estimates. You put a lot of work into that and it's truly appreciated each week. Um yeah, there may be more. >> Is there any other public comment? All right, seeing none, uh, agenda number one, class 4 road committee report and recommendations on reclassifying the class 3 port portion of Mstead uh, road TH44 to a class 4 and discontinuing the 23 miles of Bingham Road, TH55, currently a class uh, four. Can we get a motion to proceed? All right. Is there any comments? >> Yeah. So, I'll make the comment. So, we can Thank you, Chris. So, what we um I was So, the process now is we will do exactly what we did with Bundy, Mirs, and Sugar Hill. We'll set a time to go and see them. We will notify all the abutters of the road via certified mail and then we will go there a set time like we're going to do 4:00 on the 28th to go look at the others. We'll make a set time so that people can come and then we just have a dialogue about you know what do they think, what do you think and then we can come back to then you go back to the town office and you do a little hearing. Um if anybody has anything they want to submit in a record you can do that. And then the select board has I'm gonna say 60 days 30 to 60 days to respond um to decide what they want to do. So um I did have a nice conversation today with um a resident who's here tonight of um bill of of Bingham and they're on you know class 4 and they kind of they want to hold on to that designation. So, you know, it's just a matter, as I explained to him, we took a lot of heat about Canelo being one house and a big bridge. So, we were kind of inventorying all the roads and asked the class for road committee to go take a peek at them so that roads that we know that go to one house or um or two houses that we're taking a look at just to see because there are some people who want us to throw them up. So, you know, you never know. So, we just have to take everybody's opinion into consideration and go from there. So, so that's the and it's a statutory process. So, so if you're willing to do that, then I'll take a look at the calendar and we'll make another just like what we're going to do this next time. We'll make another time and I'll notify everybody so I can pull maps and all that. So, good. >> All right, that's that's that. Any more questions or comments? Brian's here to answer all your questions. >> Yes, >> you did a great job >> for you. Thanks for you and your crew for being so um efficient and giving us a lot of information on this. >> Yeah. Who's he left? >> Who's left? What? >> Oh, >> what is that like 300 feet? >> Yeah, it's all from >> It's off from Sper Road. Yeah. >> Yeah. I think that was the old um Pine Grove they used to call it that. I'm dating myself when I was in high school. >> Yeah. But yeah, it's just a little >> Yeah. Was he? Yeah. He He waiting a while. Um but that's what I told him. So yeah, it's interesting that it's funny how you end up with these little stubs of road. He never knows. >> Is there any more discussion? There's a motion in a second. All those in favor signify by saying I. Oppos. Dave's given us the thumbs up. Thanks, Dave. All right. Uh, number two, Vermont State Revolving Fund, uh, loan RF3-603-2.062,000 062,000 planning grant at 0% interest and 0% administrative fee for the Vermont uh Route 107 uh phase water project. Can I get uh a motion to sign the loan agreement, general obligation and note and the resolution and certificate? Dave seconds. All right. Any discussion? So, I can tell you that this is the way we've done all of our other water projects is basically you do this planning loan and then it get wrapped it gets wrapped into the final. Sometimes if you use their loan program, they'll actually wave this fee or um or they'll include it in the the bond to do that water project. And that bond will happen in January, I believe, is what we're shooting for right now. And that's a that's uh I think currently um $800,000 project something like that. And we'll get 50% forgiveness. That is unless the the um uh archaeologist apparently those houses along 107 were considered like Dutch housing from maybe from the quarry or the railroad. So, we have to he had to go we had to pay an additional 12,000 bucks for him to come and dig up little pieces of people's lawns. So, if he finds any Dutch treasures, I don't know what the number was going to be. So, just you know, but who knew that those were I had no idea till they told us that. That was pretty interesting. So, learn Yeah, there are. Yep. Like the most Well, no. Let's see. Well, no, not um not G, right? >> No. >> So, a couple of them are a couple of them aren't, but yeah, >> close. Okay. So, because they have um >> Yeah, but because they Yeah, they're on town water. You have no >> legally once they're in they're so but this will be could be knock on wood the cheapest water project we've ever done. >> Yeah. answer my question on the paying back. I saw that language in there that if you get alternative funding, you pay back. >> Yep. >> Yeah. >> And then that's it. I saw one misspelling of hydrant and things, but that's not >> that's not me. It wasn't me. Nope. This came from them. So, yeah. And and then it'll come from the bond bank, obviously. So, um, so there's a few places that you need to sign once you're ready. Is there >> any more questions? Dave, >> do you have any questions, Dave, on the bond or the not the bond, the loan? >> No, no questions. Just a big thank you to you for I read that three times and I still don't understand all of it. >> That's a ton ton of paperwork to borrow $62,000. I know. It's nuts, isn't it? Right. What would Vermont do without their paper? >> So, we've had a first and a second. And if there's no more questions, um, all those in favor signify by saying I opposed. Okay. So, you have to assign here. This is Pamela here and here. Already uh Yeah, just sign up here. Start at the top. So, you're gonna sign that one. And and >> we do not know what the total cost is until they've got through this planning portion, >> right? I mean, we're we're estimating I think our our last we had a preliminary probable cost of construction, I believe it was 855,000, but then obviously we had to add a little bit more for um uh No, not that one. And that one was designed there. And then um thank you. um 855,000 I think and like I said there's going to be a percentage of forgiveness there so um but you know they seem pretty because they've already done the borings and things like that so and it'll be one directional bore so and some connections so it's not a you know huge project and then there's the lead forgiveness lead subsidy so but I still think I think we'll end up in the ballpark you know 900,000 or so unless unless we hit Dutch artifacts then Then then I'm out. I don't know. >> Little clogs. >> Little clog. >> Little wooden clogs. >> Yeah, that's right. >> Interesting one. >> Yeah. >> All right. Number three, resignation of Maggie Hughes from the Recreation Center Fundraising Working Group. Uh motion to accept her resignation. To accept second and thanks for serving on the board. All right. Is there any more discussion? And like Jordan said, uh thank you Maggie for stepping forward and helping out. And it looks like you're going to continue to help out um but in a different capacity. >> Um excuse me. All those in favor? >> Opposed? Motion carries. Uh, number four, highway a access access policy updated version. Well, basically, um, Dietri took the old one and, you know, she's always good at condensing things and so there's redundancy. She hacks away like a crazy one who gets it all the time or she did. She doesn't anymore, but you know, she did. So, it's really the same information that we had before. And I think you had AJ read this one, too, right? Yeah. So, um, very similar to your last one, just updated. She was trying to get through all of them before she um before she moved. >> Any more discussion? Did you have any questions on that, Dave? >> Uh, just just a little bit about the all the uh things that are required. Uh but because I've seen a couple different things happen uh about the culvert being the owner's responsibility. Um there are, like I said, a couple instances where I know that the owner has done everything they could, but due to our um ditches, it's almost impossible to keep the culbert clear when the culbert is put in as requested, but the ditches are a foot higher than that. So, the uh culberts can't clean themselves. >> Yep. And there's nothing in there about, you know, a waiver or the town has to do this or anything like that. It's it's basically all it says if it's fails and it costs money or it does something to the road, it's all on the owner, >> right? >> Yeah. I think that if someone has that issue, >> I think there should we could look at that maybe. Yeah. >> Well, I think too, you know, part of it is like I said in the email is it's just, >> you know, we can't be responsible for every driveway culver and you and I both know we've been through enough flooding um the times. That's what tears out town roads is the fact that somebody hasn't maintained their culvert. But yet, you're right. If the ditch the town's ditching is adding to that. So, um I could have a conversation with AJ about it and talk about maybe some alternate wording or um >> I I would like to be part of that conversation just for my just to just to make me understand a little more. >> Sure. You know, I I can understand what you're saying because and and there have been times where we've, you know, >> and I know we're working on getting our ditching up to date and maybe maybe that'll eventually be cured. I don't know. >> Yeah. I think it's one of those things. We just don't want to take on the liability of every driveway covert in Bethl. You know, that'd be an undertaking. So, um but that's not to say there's not language there or some sort of process that we could talk about. So maybe when you get we'll table it for a future agenda maybe and we'll just uh when you get back or a couple weeks from now we'll talk about it. Yeah, maybe in October we don't have to put it on the next agenda, >> but we can you know it's uh I I'm not going to oppose this but I just would like to talk more about it. >> Yeah, I think that's a good that's good. It's a fair point, >> right? This is a consolidation of what exists. Yeah. And it already said and it has said for years that Bethle residents have to maintain their own culverts. But um >> be able to take the opportunity before we pass. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. We can table it. Yeah. And we'll have a conversation from just the special language because we have I mean when we flooded in July 23, December 23, sometimes in April of 2019, sometimes it's because people aren't maintaining their own. They don't have their driveways aren't aren't um ground and they don't have their ditches and then all their stuff comes down plugs our cover and you know half of Lily'sville is my son you know so there's so but I see Dave's point as well so I'm probably middle >> where the bottom half of each street ends up getting flooded >> I remember hauling all your books out of your basement >> that's right so um Ben made a motion to table yeah All those in favor of tableing it. >> I >> All right. All opposed. >> All right. Uh policy procedure for communication with persons with limited English proficiency. Can I get a motion on that? >> That's what you asked. >> That's right. >> Can I get a second? So, this is one of those things that we had to have for a grant requirement or loan funding or something. So, um I drafted something quickly and it was just like a policy and then B tree rewrote it and to do um to do it into a policy procedure because yeah, we needed it for grant or something that we weren't you know that we needed to be in compliance with. I don't know. I don't remember. We get too many. But my I think it but it was federal. So maybe you know what it probably was our federal earmark. it was probably Sanders because that was definitely federal money and there was a lot of hoops to jump through. So I was like, you know, what do we do? And so I'm like, I don't know, Google Translator. I mean, seriously, >> we we laid out the options and but I think it was for that actually. That makes the most sense because that's was a big chunk that was 600,000 in federal money. So, you know, it's amazing what you get in the fine print. Yeah. >> You prepared the past so we came in. >> Yeah. >> Sure. Yeah. I mean, you know, you have to. So, we kept we posted it in the Bolton board and the clerk's office and town manager's office. I mean, you know, do something. I don't know. So, it's just one of those things. >> Any more questions or discussion? All those in favor signify by saying I opposed. All right. Thank you. >> All right. Now we're on number six for Jesse. >> Uh number six, liquor and or tobacco licenses for Tulsa Market tobacco. backless uh whatever >> endorsement >> endorsement second class liquor beige catering permits 101726 at 129 Church Street from 7 to 11 for a Halloween show and 10:3126 at 222 Main Street for an outdoor event from 16 12 for the 20 foot by 40 foot event tent. Can we get a motion? Motion to approve the liquor and tobacco licenses for Tulsa Market and Bay Park catering permits for 101726 and 1031.6. >> All right. Uh discussion. Anybody have any questions? >> You have anything, Jesse? >> So, Jesse, your 1031 is out is outdoor and indoor, correct? >> And it's in the front parking. >> Yep. Okay. Just want to make sure >> with tent for weather concerns. >> Sure. Snow. You have heater. >> Yes. We'll get there. >> Taking the kids trick-or-treating in snowsuits before. I'm sure everybody remembers that. >> Oh, for Halloween. Oh, okay. Thank you. Do the trunk one, right? Trick or trunk or change. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, that's right. >> Troll in the belt. How could I forget? >> Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That was unsafe. Okay. >> All right. >> Everybody should go to babes is what Ellie is saying. Everybody go to babes for Halloween. >> Jesse is saying come on down. >> We have a motion and a second. Is there any more discussion? >> Did you have a question, Julie? >> Oh, okay. Thank you. >> All those in favor signify by saying I >> opposed. You folks are good. >> Thanks, Jesse. Thanks, Owen. >> Thank you. >> And minutes and communications. We now have the town manager report. So, I want to let you know that I have appointed Josh Tracy as the new Bethl Fire chief since Paul's retirement on September 1st. So, if you see Paul Feny, please thank him for his service and thank Josh for stepping forward. if you see him. There was a misprint in the hand and it said that it was Jeff Tracy, which is Josh's brother. Josh laughed. He he was good for it. He said, "I figure let him take the heat." He said, and um but uh Josh doesn't know, but I did email Tim Calibro and said, "Hey, Josh took it well, but that's actually his brother." And and I checked the minutes and the minutes were accurate. And he goes, "Oh, that was my mistake. I'm so sorry." I said, "You know, it might be nice if reached out to him and did a little interview." Josh has a lot of uh community outreach stuff that he wants to do and so I guess he was, you know, kind of putting that on his list of things to do. But yeah, so Jeff Tracy is not the new fire chief and I'm sure he'd tell you that. So it's Josh. Um, and I also want to thank Paul, you know, for stepping up to be the fire chief and for the fishing he did with the high school kids and all the other stuff he's contributed, I mean, to this building and snowplowing and all the work that he and you have done over the year, DJ, we couldn't have done it without you. >> That's true. That's true. And every Paul has a good sense of humor, too. Even when it's, you know, big storms, long days, he's still >> Yeah. I get to ride with Paul all day. >> Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. He was like somebody >> I don't know. Stay in the truck. >> Flipping someone up. Yeah. Yeah. He was good. He was funny. >> He was good. And uh so anyways, uh so it's no secret um that the sidewalk project is struggling. Um we do have a new superintendent on site. They're having weekly meetings on Fridays to make sure that they stay on schedule. They were scheduled for mid-occtober finish and we expect that. So, we pay GPI, which is Chris Bum, to be on site every day. Um, but yes, they have I have never had a contractor move their signage as much as these people. Um, they had to reset the curb because the curbing wasn't right because I think the first super had different didn't have the GPI uh GPS coordinates just right. But this new guy is seems to be a little sharper. Um we did get a call today from um Donna Taber came home. She was mad. She said my lawn's all dug up. And so I talked to her and then I called Chris Bump and said, "Hey, can you go see Donna? She's going to be on her porch. This is her concern." And then he called me and said, "Well, she's right." He said, "I called Dub Boy and King and we're going to fix the drawing and so it'll reduce about 12 feet." So I'm like, "Well, that should that'll help, you know." So um but anyways and they are getting you know the we're digging for the rapid the rectangular rapid fashion beacons but I don't know what to tell you. Well I can tell you know I do know what to tell you. This is what being forced to take the little bidder does. This is what it does. So, >> I was uh pulling out of the ball field the other day and I pulled out and all of a sudden there's oncoming traffic and I got out of the way and I went to the end of the line after they all passed and I said, "Hey, uh where's your like guy in the there's nobody in the middle. >> We have one on each end that you can't see." And then the ball fields which are super active now. >> Yeah. >> And no one's there. He's like, >> "Uh, well, I was like, how long are you planning on going?" Because we have games, practice, stuff's going on. And like, >> well, usually there's a guy, he's doing something. Like, well, pretty unsafe. It's not as unsafe as it looks. I'm like, I just pulled in oncoming traffic. Yeah. And >> I'm pretty aware. >> Okay. I can I will >> the other day I pray that >> I was like you can't just put one on each end and call it a day when you have that majority right there coming in. >> Yeah. I just came up Route 14 from from White River today and they've got one heck of a project. There must be literally 12 different flaggers on every little street, every little road. >> Folks, he has boats too. I will talk >> that somebody I can see the entry points there. >> Yeah, this is like four miles. Yeah, I'll talk to Chris Bump about that tomorrow. So, thank you for letting me know. And I did I have told him I said, you know, someone the other day the lights weren't set right on the weekend. So, it turned green and they went and then there was still seven other cars coming the other way. I'm like, okay. So, I will let Chris know. Bump know tomorrow. So, >> yeah, it does look nice. Yep. the vorre sign for the um for uh the >> the wreck area is all is up and they did that on Friday so that looks good. Uh Sugar Hill projects coming along. They're slated to be finished by 9:22. Uh AJ and I are going to attend a closeout meeting maybe this week. Um we'll see. Um so that's going well thankfully. And then um AJ and I are working with Two Rivers and Beta Engineering. We got that thriving communities grant and we're kind of trying to look at an engineering plan or something to replace a large cobra on Camp Brook Road. Um it's going to be another million-doll project. So my concern is Federal Highways is getting a little bit uh pickier about what they're willing to cover and not cover. So if there's a flood and that covert goes out, I don't know what federal highway is going to do. So I we were talking to this engineering firm. So they're, you know, looking at options and um AJ and I are talking about maybe getting some preliminary engineering done, maybe up to 60% or something. that way if federal highways doesn't cover it um you know or or even if they do we're partway there you know that we because that goes out that road will be closed for a long time and um we just I don't know I'm trying to hedge my bets or if there's all of a sudden you know sometimes when president changes there's like infrastructure money but a lot of times those were shovel ready projects so AJ and I were just talking about it because that blows out, we're looking at, you know, a temporary bridge and and that's just it's going to be messy right there because it's right near Alex Ryers >> um just after just >> keep going. It's right after clean up. >> Yeah. So, but but Federal Highways is getting tougher about what they will cover. They didn't cover the Culver near Doug and Joanne. So, we had to transfer our We were lucky that they did that. transferred our $200,000 structures grant to cover that or we would have been on the hook for 250 grand. So, I don't know. AJ and I are kind of looking at it and gonna maybe get some pricing from Beta just to see. But you can't do anything for a million bucks anymore. I mean, so I don't know. It's just something that we're kind of thinking about. So, just so you know, um we did hire a new Road Clue employee. He starts tomorrow, Luke Gibson. Uh he starts tomorrow. He has over 23 years of experience. Uh he spent the majority of his career in Stockbridge and then he went to Kellington and and now he's coming here. So we're very excited to have him. Um so and they will be doing the um uh you can see their chainsaws out. They're be doing the game of logging the next three days. So they have I think there'll be a dozen people here. So some people from other towns come and take it too. Um and obviously there's a teacher that comes in and teaches it. Uh so so that's a good thing. So that way um it's a refresher for some and some have never taken it. So um they do some in class tomorrow and then they'll be out and about cutting stuff down and that's a good thing. Uh Dietri's last day was last Thursday the 10th. She's agreed to finish a couple of projects remotely uh for myself and for Josh Tracy. She started some fire department stuff and I do not want to get into it now. She's already got it on the run. So um and I met with um DEW and AES Northeast on Friday to go over the town garage project, the estimate and contract terms. So we we have agreed that we're going to have a our contract will be, you know, standard AIA contract, but it's going to be a um guaranteed maximum price. So it will all be open. We'll be able to see all the bid pricing, all their estimates, all the pricing, and the bottom line is going to be their profit. We obviously know their business make profit. So, it'll be a real open book process. Um, I met with them, um, and they had some a couple of questions. I'm going to meet with AJ tomorrow, uh, like 3:30 to go over a couple design questions that they had inside. Um, they also asked us for uh, local contractors that maybe could do the excavation, um, you know, demolition or concrete because we might save some money that way. Um, so we'll see how that goes, but you know, I feel like we're going to have a good project with them. And I believe that our bond vote will most likely be 3.5 million. It's, you know, it's a little, it's higher than I had hoped. Um, but I can't find 400,000 in cuts. I cut out legal fees. I cut out, you know, an office trailer because they were going to bill us for an office trailer. I said, why can't you get one with two offices so AJ has one? And they were like, yeah, sure. Like there. So, I cut I don't know 40 grand or 50 out of it, but you know, it's just the way it is. And um so, but I don't believe that we will spend all that, but we are going to have a specific testing. That's why we're in the garage today doing our open house. Uh this this um sheetrock was probably put in the 80s or 90s and there was a batch of sheetrock around that time that came from China that has asbestous in it. So, I am going to move forward like asbestous testing and a couple things prior because if that is you don't want to stop the whole project to do remediation, it's going to be so much more expensive. I think we'd like to know that before we get started. Um, obviously the town garage is this size. It's going to go right here. It'll be another bay that way and 10 ft back from the plywood. Um, if you came later and you haven't had a chance to do the tour, I'll give you one after the meeting. Um, and we are going to have to build a wall inside in the back because it's no longer connected. So, as AJ said, you could throw a German Shepherd through there today. So, um, you can see, you know, a lot of the issues with it, but it will go in the same place. This is not going to be the Taj Mahal. It will be Radiant Heat, which is more upfront, but should be cost savings down the road. But the guys do a lot of their own maintenance and they're laying on it. Um, I think we'll keep where AJ wants to keep the oil burning furnace to do um, you know, makeup so when they open all the doors to drive out that it'll kick on and help so that because the radiant heat will take a minute to catch up. Uh, same on this side there'll be office, bathroom, u, break room and one room that hopefully we can do to lock up, you know, tools and stuff. Obviously, we were broken into before. So, um, but that's it really. Nothing nothing fancy. We'll use same septic. Uh we do have to the water line actually runs through the addition. So so we will remove the water line, but we figured that and we'll the fuel tank will stay right where it is. So you know metal building, so it will be um you know the insulated wall panels. So it'll be, you know, it has to be built to uh state of Vermont commercial energy standards obviously and it will be so but not you know really a lot of bells and whistles. We're trying to do some have some foresight because this is a 50 plus year building that we're going to be building. >> Fancy them. >> It'll be fancy to them. I Yeah. And um but it's interesting. I did the research and the metal building in 73 was $31,000. I was like, "Huh?" Uh, so so anyway, so that's >> by a door for that part. >> Yeah. So that's, you know, where we're at right now. And I drafted the mailer um on col on um what's Columbus Day, right? Or no, indigenous people day, sorry. We're going to have do will be here. We'll do a, you know,formational bond vote informational. Um so people can ask questions there, too. So anyways, and Dave and I have been talking. He's agreed to help me out. They also gave me three names for a clerk of the works um to have somebody who's going to help with, you know, I mean, I have gifts, but not to tell you if the strength of the concrete mix is right. So, that's something that, you know, I'm going to talk to Dave a little more about when he comes back, but um you know, makes sense have somebody on site, especially it's public money, public trust. But uh but we'll have a further discussion about that. Um and that's it. >> Yeah. I called him today and said, "You realize that has to be done this month, right? I'm going there today, Teresa." I said, "All right, because you know the clock that has to be done by by the 30th." So he said, "Well, that's good." He said he would start him, but he did. All right. And once again, I just want to reiterate on number six, Dietri. It's been great having you around and all you did for the wreck and the survey and just, you know, just having you around. Walking in the office now. I walked in with muffins today and I'm like, "No, Dream, don't make her cry." >> They were They were good, too. >> Don't make her cry. >> Maple pumpkin. Yeah, >> that's right. That's right. >> All right. Well, thank you for all your years. >> That's right. >> Um All right. Moving on. >> Look, now you made her lie on TV. It's not all been a pleasure. >> There you go. >> Overall, >> overall, uh select board minutes from 8:24 26. Is there any uh corrections or anything on there? >> Any spelling errors? >> Spelling through. >> There you go. >> Second. >> Oh, you can't. No, you can't. That's right. Dave Jordan can't second, but you can. All right. >> Yeah, because Denise makes three. >> Sure. >> I am here. Um, >> yeah. So, >> and Okay. All in favor, all three of us. I >> gave a thumbs up. >> Dave's a thumbs up. >> All right. Other communications in their packet. There's some, you know, uh, the working survey and and >> the samples of the stuff that went to the people on Bundy and Mirs and there's planning commission meetings and I believe there's also, >> wasn't there winter county sheriff stuff in there? >> Yeah. Uh >> oh. >> Oh, okay. So, it's not in the select board minutes. It was in your minutes. >> Oh, okay. Thank you. >> All right. So, that's all of that and we have our discontinues at the end. So it looks like any other business to come before the board hearing none. >> Motion to >> motion to adjurnn is on the table. >> All in favor?