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Becoming Ourselves Through Collective's Gaze (Interview)

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The speaker argues that humanity has shifted from an era of collective narcissism, where individuals channeled their grandiosity and aggression through groups like tribes or nations, to a current state of individualistic narcissism. In the past, these collectives provided a value system that legitimized self-centered traits by embedding them within exclusive narratives such as "we are the best." Today, however, technology has rendered people self-sufficient, negating the need for collaboration and allowing individuals to achieve goals without human contact. Consequently, traditional frameworks built over ten thousand years, including families and nation-states, are crumbling because they no longer serve the same function, leading to a decline in genuine collective identity despite the persistence of movements that claim to be collectivist but are actually rooted in individualism. This transition is deeply tied to the nature of language itself, which the speaker describes as containing convenient fictions like "personality," "identity," and "the self." These concepts emerged prominently in the highly narcissistic nineteenth century and serve to create an illusion of mastery and control over one's life, making individuals feel special and unique. The speaker contends that there is no such thing as an innate or permanent identity; rather, these are mere concoctions that defy reality. By relying on this language, society perpetuates a myth of the autonomous individual, ignoring the fact that human diversity and self-perception are constructed through social interaction rather than internal essence. The core mechanism behind this construction is the "gaze" of others, which is essential for establishing the boundaries of one's identity. From infancy, a child requires to be seen by caregivers to survive; without being noticed, an infant would cease to exist psychologically. This need to be observed creates a sense of continuity and defines who we are, as we realize our separation from others only through their observation. The speaker emphasizes that the self is relational and determined from the outside, formed by the voices and perceptions of others rather than generated internally. If this external validation is removed, as seen in cases of solitary confinement or deprivation tanks, individuals lose their coherence and disintegrate, proving that the need to be seen is a fundamental survival requirement. Ultimately, the video concludes that our sense of self is not an internal reality but a product of interpersonal relationships and the constant feedback loop of being observed by others. The idea that we are self-defining or possess an external locus of control is a narcissistic injury because it denies our fundamental dependence on the community for our very existence. As society moves away from collective structures, the illusion of individual autonomy becomes more fragile, yet the biological and psychological imperative to be noticed remains unchanged. Without alternative frameworks to replace the collapsing social structures of the past, humanity risks continuing to rely on these fictional constructs while failing to address the underlying truth that we become ourselves only through the gaze of others.
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I think we have transitioned from collective narcissism to individual or individualistic narcissism. I think narcissism is described in the Bible very very accurately. Actually, in some respects, it's a text that is preferable to the text of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual, more accurate. And so, it's a very old phenomenon. The thing is that people used to channel their narcissism via the in-group, via the collective they belonged to. So, they felt proud of belonging to a tribe, to a nation, to a village, to a football club, to a you name it. And it is via the collective that grandiosity, exploitativeness, aggression, antagonism, obsessive-compulsive features were channeled. The collective not only allowed you as an individual to legitimize your narcissism and to channel it, but it embedded narcissism in a value system. In other words, the legitimacy of narcissism within collective within collectives, within groups, emanated also from the fact that the values of the collective were, for example, exclusionary. We are We are the best. We are the rightest. We are the most superior and supreme, and so on. So, what I'm trying to say is that the individual narrative echoed and reflected the collective narrative, and there was a confirmation bias firewall, which did not allow in any competing or challenging views. Today, there's no need for collectives anymore. I think the whole the whole idea of society, the whole idea of groups, the whole idea is is dying. I think technology has rendered us self-sufficient, self-contained, and technology vitiated, negated the need to interact with other people, to collaborate with them, to obtain goals. Today you can obtain your goals utterly divorced from any contact with other human beings. And so today narcissism is individual individual rather than collective because collectives are dying. All forms of collectives, families, nation states, I mean they're all dying. It doesn't appear to be this way because there there's still the MAGA movement or you name it. But um it's very misleading because these movements are about individualism. They are not about collectivism. That's why MAGA movement people, for example, reject socialism. Socialism is definitely a collective thing, whereas MAGA is about the rights of the individual. I don't know, gun rights and you name it. It's like individually oriented. We are dying. We are as a species we are we are dying in the sense that all the frameworks that we have constructed over tens of thousands of years, ever since the transition to agriculture 10 year 10,000 years ago at least, all these frameworks are are crumbling, are collapsing, and we have failed to come up with alternative frameworks. >> Just uh to go back and pick up >> use of language in order to try to communicate to me your question. And regrettably, this language, not your fault mind you, that's the only language we have. This language contains many counterfactual constructs, constructs constructs which are not grounded in reality, and actually defy it. One such construct is personality. Another is identity. Another is the self. And another is the individual. These are all myths. These are all concoctions. These are all pieces of fiction. Convenient fiction. Because it allows for communication. And we because it gives the illusion of mastery and control over one's life. And the diversity of of humankind. Like this kind of language makes you feel special. If you have your own identity and you're in the other words this is narcissistic language. It is not by accident that all these concepts have emerged in the 19th century. A highly narcissistic century. And so but the truth of the matter is there is no such thing as innate identity or or permanent personality or this is nonsense. None of this exist. Your identity, who you are is the feeling of continuity. If you feel that you're continuous regardless of what happens in your life, regardless of people who enter and exit your life, regardless of your environment, ever changing and so on, you still feel that you are you. There's a sense of continuity. And this sense of continuity is a direct derivative of the fact that other people gaze at you. It is through the gaze of other people that you establish a perimeter and boundaries around your continuity, around your sense of I. In other words, your identity, personality, self, ego, whatever language you choose to use they are all relational. They are the outcomes of interactions with other people, interpersonal relationships, the gaze of other people, what other people have been telling you, the voices of other people, introjects in your mind, these in your mind, etc., etc. You're defined and determined and created from the outside. You become environmentally, you don't become from the inside. You become from the outside. Process of becoming is from the outside. The need to be seen is a survival need. A baby who is not seen is a dead baby in due time. You need to be seen. You need to be noticed initially by your mother, later by your father, but you need to be noticed from day one, from minute one. The doctor who slaps your, you know, buttocks. You need to be noticed. If you're not noticed, you're dead. So, this need to be seen is now reified, for example, in social media. Social media is a reification of the need to be seen. But, this need to be seen is a strong indication that it is the gaze of other people that defines you. You become who you are initially through the gaze of your mother. It is through your mother's gaze that you realize that you are not your mother. When you start life off, you are in a symbiotic unit with your mother. You're one with your mother. You're a single organism. It is only when you look into your mother's eyes that you realize that you are not mother. That there's someone out there who is observing you. The act of observation is the most profound psychological process known. Most profound. And yet, we tend to underestimate it in scholarly literature and otherwise, in philosophy even. We tend to underestimate it. Because if we are determined from the outside, that is narcissistic injury. It means we are not godlike. It means we are not self-defining and self-determining. It means an external locus of control. It means we are nobodies. It means, you know, if we were to to be placed as castaways on an island, Tom Hanks style, we would cease to exist, actually. We have documented literature, documented studies of people who have been placed in solitary confinement for long periods of time, in deprivation tanks for long periods of time, and we know that they lose coherence and cohesion. They unbecome. They fall apart. They disintegrate, like the molecules in the famous painting by Dali, Galatea. So, this is, I hope, the answer to your question.