August-17th Steve Rhodes on The Tom O'Brien Show - 2026
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The video opens with host Tom O'Brien discussing the current market conditions on a Monday morning, noting that major indices like the S&P and NASDAQ are experiencing a slight pullback despite being near all-time highs. Amidst casual conversation about the extreme heat in Florida, O'Brien introduces guest Steve Rhodes to discuss his analysis of the market's direction. Rhodes begins by highlighting a specific technical observation: while the standard NASDAQ 100 index (referred to as "the Qs") has not yet reached new highs after forming a potential top pattern, the Equal Weighted ETF for the same group of stocks (QQEW) is trading at fresh record levels. Rhodes argues that equal-weighted ETFs often reveal the true underlying strength of a market better than price-weighted indices, especially when large-cap stocks are lagging behind smaller constituents.
To validate this observation, Rhodes presents a comprehensive statistical study he conducted using historical data dating back to April 2006. He explains that there have been 76 instances where the QQEW made a new all-time high while the standard Qs did not follow immediately. In every single one of those 76 cases, the standard Qs eventually caught up and also reached new highs within a relatively short timeframe, with an average resolution time of about two and a half trading days. Furthermore, Rhodes notes that in 80% of these instances, the catch-up occurred within ten trading days, and he emphasizes that there has never been a "bare market" scenario—defined as a decline of 20% or more—that began when the equal-weighted index was at an all-time high while the standard index was not.
Rhodes further reinforces his point by examining major historical tops, including those in August 2024 and the Flash Crash era, showing that in every instance where the Qs topped before or on the same day as the QQEW, they eventually made new highs without exception. He concludes that despite current fears of a market crash driven by trailing tech giants like Microsoft or Meta, the statistical evidence suggests the market structure remains robust. The discussion ends with O'Brien encouraging viewers to subscribe to Rhodes' newsletter for daily updates and reiterating the reliability of these long-term statistics, which have held true even through significant global events and economic distortions over the last two decades.
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Welcome back, folks. S&Ps right now
almost at the lows of the session, down
about 30 points or 410%. We got a NASDAQ
slightly in the red. And right now,
folks, as we do each and every Monday at
3:15, we're going to jump over and talk
to our man Steve Rhodess. You can check
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Steve Rhodess, good afternoon.
>> Hi, Tommy. How are you today?
>> I'm doing great, man. How's uh how's the
beautiful east coast of Florida doing?
>> It's hot.
>> It is definitely hot, baby. Toasty. It
is very [laughter] hot. I know.
>> My AC, all of our AC's, man. I had an AC
guy out to one place, Steve, last week,
and I had an AC guy to another place uh
today. And uh so those as I walk through
my neighborhood, all I see are air
conditioning trucks. Literally, there's
not. And folks, if you you know, you're
only supposed to run the air
conditioning 20 degrees under what it's
the outside temperature. I get this, you
know, and that's almost impossible when
you're pushing 104 degrees in. I
exaggerate, but it's hot.
>> That's true. That's true. That's true.
>> So, hey, what do you think about this
market, man? A little bit of a pullback
today, but I say little, man. We are
right near all-time highs. What do you
think, Steve? Please.
>> Well, I tell you what I what I what I
decided to do today was I'm I'm starting
where I left off and and I may not have
enough time for the full segment. Um uh
but we we'll figure that out from from
you know we'll figure that out. But
where I left off, the last thing that I
did during the last um uh during the
last couple of minutes of the segment
was I had punched up the QQEW. That's
what I've got on my screen right now.
>> So everybody should be looking that QQEW
is the equal weighted ETF for the NASDAQ
100 or for the Q's. And I have
maintained for years and years that the
equated ETFs are the ones that really
point the true direction. Now, I hadn't
opened up the uh the equated ETFs last
week. I don't know why I didn't, but I
didn't. What I realized when I opened it
up this morning, if we take a look at
the daily time frame chart, that's on
the lefth hand side. This green candle,
that was Thursday. It negated a TD9
count top. It's at all-time highs. It's
above profile resistance at 163. It's
above its green oscillator and change
line for its daily time frame, for its
weekly time frame. And the weekly's got
no uh topping pattern. The weekly
negated ATD9 count topped last week. and
the monthly chart, we're at all-time
highs. There's no topping signals
whatsoever. So, when I saw this chart
and I maintain that uh belief that the
equated ETFs are the ones that point the
true direction, well, then I said,
"Okay, now I know what I'm going to do
for the next couple of hours and
hopefully be able to get some of this
done before I uh sit sit with you for a
few minutes." So, what I'm going to do
here,
>> I heard you talking about in the dent
just so saying I that uh look at that
equal weight accuse major breakout. I
was pulling it up towards the end of
your program. So, I love it, man. Go for
it. Yeah.
>> Yeah. And actually, what I want to show
folks here, um, I meant to do this, too.
It's just, let me show what I'm looking
at here. So, the right hand side is the
Q's. You can see that the Q's formed a
TD9 count top back on June the 3 and
we're at new alltime highs. If you go
all the way over in the I mean, we're
off the new alltime highs. We made it,
you know, a couple days ago in the QQEW.
So, now let me show you what my study
>> with the equal weighted, right? Much
higher talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
And that's an it's an important message
because it tells you that underneath the
surface things are very strong. Yeah.
Maybe you got light volume, but it's
summertime, all that kind of stuff.
Okay. But on equal weighted, this is
telling us that things are very strong
underneath the surface. That's not what
you typically would see in a market that
uh people are expecting some type of
decline. So, what I did was the equated
ETF began April 25th, 2006. So that's my
beginning date that I have to be able to
test the study. And the study is said
the first the first portion of the study
was um basically if the QQEW is at new
all-time highs, you know, and the Q is
not, what happens? Because that's the
situation that we have now. So there
were 70 since since April 25th of 2006,
there have been 76 events where the QEW
was making a new all-time high, but the
Q's were not. In 76 of those 76
instances,
>> the Q's made a new all-time high later
subsequent. Okay, that's important. Now,
on average, it was about two and a half
days.
>> Um, the average, you know, the average
time between 2 and a half to 11 basic
trading days. Where we're at right now,
today's day number 49.
>> All right, so just kind of throw that
out there. But within within 10 trading
days, 60 of the 76 resolved themselves
80 that was 80% of the time. 81% in 20
uh 88% in 30. Uh but there has never
been a bare market and we'll use the
bare market Tommy as a 20% decline. So
we'll just use that as a you know which
is pretty common out there. Yep.
>> There's never been a bare market that
started when the QQ was at an all-time
high and the Q's were not.
>> Okay.
>> So even though I may not have enough
information to fill up our entire
segment here, I'm not done by the way.
Um that's important for everybody that's
that's out there. Now whether they want
to use my information or not, this is
this is factually correct. And people
can go back and do their own studies as
well. This took me several hours to do
this,
>> right? Can't can't argue with
statistics, man. Not to jump in, but I
agree. I love it totally.
>> It's just stats. It's spreadsheets and
then just kind of create, you know,
this. So, this is the major top
evidence. So, I went back to the Q's.
Again, I can only go back to 2005 to
really test this out. Um, but here are
the major tops. And in these major tops,
I show when the Q's made their top, when
the QQ made its top. Now, this is really
important because before because what we
have here is you can see that um the the
QQ is making its top before the Q's or
it's making on the same day, but it's
never made it later.
>> Yeah,
>> let me restate that. The Q the Q's,
okay, have when the QQ makes an all-time
high, the QQW, the equal weighted, the
Q's eventually catch up. they have
always where we are right now which is
which is what you just showed us
basically on that chart if it plays out
right
>> that that is correct so I I went even
you know I mean that this is this is
really important information I believe
for everybody in the audience
>> that's listening in because there are a
lot of folks and I get the emails all
the time about the market's going to
crash this that and the other thing and
I try to respond to those as best as I
can this is the most I was amazed when I
saw that first when I saw that the chart
this morning you know as we're going
into the noon time when the when the
show was closing and I had to go back
and say, "Okay, I really need to go run
the study. Make sure that you know what
I'm sharing with the audience is
accurate. I don't want to misstate
anything. I don't want to mislead anyone
out there, but this is the statist the
statistical data, you know, and here, by
the way, here's here's the spies. Here's
on the lefth hand side, you got the spy
and you got the equal weighted. They're
pretty similar. All right, so if you got
the Dow diamonds, they're pretty similar
and they all topped on the same day.
Made the all-time highs in August 5th.
So, it's typically how it works. There
were nine other completed um incidents
where there was more. So because we're
at 50 days, today is day number 50. I
went back and tested 40 days. Uh and if
we take a look at so there were
instances where we've gone beyond 40
days out here. And in every one of those
instances we in 2024 was 66 days. Um
that in every one of these instances,
Tommy, the Q's have caught up to the QQW
and made a new alltime high.
>> Look at that. You're gonna you're gonna
have me remembering this one, Steve, for
sure. And history doesn't repeat, folks.
But what does it say? It rhymes, right?
It definitely rhymes, man. As in
totally. That's pretty cool.
>> I I mean, is this time different? Hey,
look, you know, we got a war going on as
you're talking. We got all kinds of
stuff. So, you know, but this includes
even the flash crash.
>> I thought even the flash crash, I might
>> That's a lot of data, man. That is a lot
of data in there. You're not You're not
even going back to like 2020 where CO
could have distorted thing. You're going
back, man, for sure.
>> Yeah. As far as far as far as I possibly
can. So what we what we can say is since
2005 when the QQEW makes new all-time
high, the Q's have always followed and
have never gotten into a bare market.
And so I think that's an important
statistic for folks to understand.
>> Hey, maybe Microsoft, right? Maybe Meta,
maybe some of those biggest equities
that have been trailing, maybe they're
going to pick it up. You know, we'll
see. But it's pretty remarkable some
rotation in this market. And you see it,
I mean, whether it's Microsoft, right,
Meta, um Apple's on a little bit of a
pullback even, you know, right? So
there's some room there for those Steve,
great information, man. Appreciate the
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break checking it out. Steve, thanks so
much, man. Look forward to the show
tomorrow. Thanks, Tommy.
>> Thank you, folks. Come right back.