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On August 13th, Tom O'Brien reported on a robust trading session where the S&P 500 surged by approximately 7% to reach record highs near 78.26, while the Nasdaq climbed over 4%, with only minor divergence in the Dow Jones due to sector rotation. This market strength was largely driven by positive economic data released earlier that morning, specifically Producer Price Index (PPI) figures indicating a cooling inflation trend as headline year-over-year increases dropped from 5.5% to 4.7%. These numbers initially caused yields and the dollar to weaken before recovering near parity levels, resulting in a decline of about 1.3% for gold prices despite its recent performance. Although the GDX semiconductor ETF experienced a pullback after massive gains, volume analysis suggested that underlying strength remained intact heading into the weekend close.
Technical analysis provided by Tim Ord offered further insight into market momentum and potential turning points using indicators such as the S&P VIX ratio and RSI 14. Despite concerns regarding elevated volumes on lighter-than-expected shares for SPY, key bullish momentum indicators persisted with no immediate signs of a market top; notably, the weekly S&P/VIX ratio remained above its mid-Ballinger band, signaling that an uptrend continues even amidst periods of panic selling during rallies. In his assessment of gold and GDX specifically, Tim presented cumulative volume charts showing that downside exhaustion had been reached across multiple moving averages, including the 50-day, 62-day, and 79-day lines. He highlighted a falling wedge pattern on the weekly chart with emerging strength from lows in the $85 to $117 range, anticipating potential multi-month rallies possibly extending until March of the following year if support levels hold steady above key thresholds like $85 for gold.
Beyond market mechanics, the discussion addressed significant shifts in Federal Reserve rate expectations and corporate governance issues that are influencing investor sentiment. Following light inflation prints, probabilities for interest rates staying unchanged at the September meeting rose to roughly two-thirds from less than a quarter just a month prior, though markets still price in hikes by December with about a 65% chance. The conversation also touched upon controversial topics such as Mark Walter's situation regarding his Lakers deal and Delaware Life Insurance Company restating related party investments up to $17 billion under DOJ investigation, raising questions about the legitimacy of such reclassifications compared to industry standards. Additionally, there was commentary on legislative efforts to eliminate quarterly reporting requirements and potential enforcement gaps in the Corporate Transparency Act concerning shell companies, a bill co-sponsored by Marco Rubio described as an anti-corruption measure that may lack strict oversight.
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>> Good afternoon, folks. Tommy O'Brien
coming to you live from TFN. Just after
3 p.m. Eastern time, about 60 minutes
left to go in the trading day. And we
got S&P at all-time record highs for a
close right now, folks. If we're there,
78.26, we reach a high in the futures
intraday at 7838. And yeah, we got PPI
numbers coming in light. Yields ease a
bit. The market taken some of those
possible hikes out of the pricing in
terms of where the Fed is going for the
next few meetings and then some. And
we'll get into it, but equities rejoice
and yeah, S&Ps, you're talking about a
record, folks. You can put this thing on
a daily and how about it man pushing
higher. Pretty remarkable that July 30th
you were trading at 7331 and here we are
500 points higher folks barely 2 weeks
after that date. 782650. S&P is up by
7/10%. NASDAQ 100. You talk about a run.
Yeah. 3,000 plus points 30,000 259 from
the lows of July 30th and today we're up
by 400 points or 1.4% 4% and we're about
700 points away from the all-time highs.
The Dow right now, little bit of a diver
divergence. Got a little rotation, some
selling in the Dow this morning. You
drive down to 53,715
and right now we're barely in the green
by 28 points and the Russell positive by
4/10% or 11 points at 3,64.
So, as I mentioned, as I mentioned,
yields. So, this is a 5m minute. Here's
your 8:30 acceleration, right? We get
the PPI numbers and those numbers,
folks. Okay, the headline,
inflation cools on the wholesale level
as wardriven energy shock fades. Okay,
that's the headline from Bloomberg. But
the bottom line is on a headline basis,
the PPI was up 4.7%
year-over-year, and that's after being
up 5.5. And on a month- over-month
basis, it was flat. Now, that's the
headline. You take out food and energy
year-over-year it was 4.2% month
overmonth 2%. And you look at the trend.
Okay, the black here is the headline
number.
The yellow is the change year-over-year.
But more importantly, right, is that you
guys these numbers coming down cuz the
headline just went up nothing for a
30-day basis and the core is only up 2%
on a monthly basis. You multiply those
times 12. Well, 0 * 12 is 0. and 0.2* 12
is 2.4%. Both of them well under where
you are year-over-year numbers. So the
trend is going to be down here.
And yeah, that's the number we get at
8:30. So that's the context of the move
you get, right? We got higher higher
price, lower yield.
You take a look at the volume, decent
volume coming into the final hour, 1.7
million on the 10ear right now
with the higher price, lower yield. The
10ear still sitting though, folks, at
4.64. That's quite a number, man. 4.64
and you get the dollar right near 100
996
on the dollar negative by six pennies.
Okay, we were as high as 100.83. You
back off a bit. We zoom in on the action
and that was the move this morning. As
in when you got lower yield, you had a
weaker dollar, but the dollar shakes it
off. Yeah, we're right back to near 100.
And that's weighing on gold down by 1.3%
down 57 bucks right now. You got a GDX
down by 3.1% but folks it's been a heck
of a run. Okay, GDX is up 30% in less
than a month. All right, just a 382 of
the run we've had in the last month
could bring you back down to 85 in a
heartbeat. We're trading right now. GDX
off $287 off 3.2% and yeah, little bit
of an uptick in volume today for sure.
We're down more than 3%. Okay, but look
at the volume we're going into in terms
of
last Friday
44 million. We're at 24. And then you
also had a sign of strength last
Wednesday at 41 million. You take a look
at the weekly right now.
We only have one trading day left. All
right, it's 3:00. We get to close it
today and tomorrow. Yesterday, you push
higher on the GDX on 145 million, we'll
call it. And we're at 81 million right
now.
So yeah, I don't think we're doing 60
million between today and tomorrow.
We'll see the price action, but pulling
back on a little bit lighter volume on
the GDX. Jump over the VIX.
I was joking this morning and somebody
was asking me about what I think of the
S&P. I said the VIX is saying it's never
going to go down again, right? And yeah,
up a bit. Up by 21 pennies, which is
interesting. Okay, we have an S&P right
now at record highs. We're up by 57
points. and you have a VIX that's
elevated from the last three plus hours
of trading yesterday afternoon.
So maybe we've seen a low at 1439, but
right now this market showing no signs
of weakness whatsoever.
And yeah, when we talk about rates,
yeah, we got a light CPI print on
Wednesday. We got a light PPI print this
morning. And when you look at the odds
that the Fed's going to hike or cut,
right now we're at about a 2:1
probability that they stay put at 35 to
375. This is the September 16th meeting.
That's their next meeting. Okay. Look
where we were a month ago. A month ago,
the market had less than a 25% chance
the Fed would stay put by this meeting.
Yeah. Now, we've had a meeting in
between then, right? But shifting
dramatically. Okay. And even a week ago,
there was only a 45% chance that the Fed
would stay at 35 to 375 at the September
meeting. That number at now 65% chance.
Okay, you go out to December, three
meetings from right now, there's still
some hikes in here, folks. All right,
the market only pricing a one out of
three probability that we don't get any
hikes in the next three meetings. Did
you just hear that? The market is
assigning only a one out of three chance
that over the next three meetings we
remain by December 9th at 35 to 375. Now
really you could get a hike and then a
cut. However you end up there, but this
this is priced in that somehow they
don't hike. And there's a 45% chance we
get one hike and almost a 20% chance
that we get two hikes. So still a lot of
hikes priced into this market following
a a light CPI, a light PPI. Now before
the September 16th meeting going a
little bit of fundamental here, but
that's what's in in focus today on
inflation data.
These numbers are also going to jump
around because we get the entire month
of August prior to that September 16th
meeting. So what's so interesting is
that when you go from the last meeting
to this September 16th meeting, we get
two full months of data. The most recent
data to that meeting going to be the
most important and that's going to be
August data. We'll get August non-farm
payrolls in there. We'll get another
inflation print for August and then
you'll have the September
Federal Reserve meeting. And so, yeah,
those numbers are going to jump around.
You better believe it. But right now,
quite a shift. And not many would know,
right? We know. You know, if you're
listening to this program, you know the
type of hikes priced into this thing.
But that's still a lot of hikes
considering where we are right now cuz
we are making progress on inflation with
those numbers. No denying it. S&Ps right
now up by 53, NASDAQ 100 up by 382.
We're coming right back, folks.
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Welcome back, folks. You take a look at
the spy right now. We hit 77937
right now. That is the first time. Yeah,
first time hitting 779. Man, you back
off a bit from those highs, but we got
an S&P up by 54 points. You take a look
at the volume, though. Little light.
We'll see how we come into the close,
but 22 million shares on the spy, right?
Look at the volume we've had since this
acceleration began at the end of July.
Just lightening up the entire time. And
we've been pushing these highs that we
started at August 5th. you're breaking
above that area decisively, but August
5th, you got 45 million shares, almost
44.6 million in the SPY, and that's not
cherrypicking this high of 69 million or
59 or 62 or 66 or 70, right? That's
taking the actual high we made at the
end of that run on 44.6 million and
we're at 22.3 right now, breaking above
that. Okay, jump over the Q's.
Same thing. Q's make a run. They
actually make a run now. Yeah, Q's are
going to have it over that high. They
are. So 33.5 million was the high from
August 5th. Now you had tremendous
volume of 60 million the day prior.
Okay, but you actually made that high on
33.5.
It's still going to be light. Probably
25.6. We'll see. You might get there
today on a big day like this.
All right, there's your S&Ps up by
7/10%. You know, we jump around as
there's some more reading on this one
throughout the day. And you're going to
see some stories about this one, folks.
So,
this is talking about the Lakers, the
deal for 12.5 billion, right? This
gentleman here, Mark Walter. So
TWWG Global, okay, and he was under
investigation by the Department of
Justice. They seized his phone last
September, okay? So this is not some
lighthearted
inquiry. They seized his phone, his cell
phone. Okay?
And he had been looking for action to
sell some of his assets. Stevie Cohen
was out there. He passed.
But here's the kicker, okay?
The Delaware Life Insurance Company that
Walter has, okay, restated its related
party investments to 17 billion. Related
party investments are very crucial for
insurance companies. They're related,
right? There's related risk. Okay? They
restated them to 17 billion or almost
40% of total invested assets from 1.4 4
billion or 3%.
Now, without understanding the
fundamentals of it, seems like it could
be criminal. Okay? And check it out when
you put that type of difference
on a comparison chart to other insurers.
They placed outsized bets on their own
affiliates, okay? Related party
investments.
This pink dot here is where their
financials originally showed their risk
profile as an insurer
which was that
for the total invested assets right
what share of those were affiliated on
the y ais okay and at 3% you can see
right most insurers probably fall under
10 you get some of them that go up to 20
okay but then by restating
Now, they restated this after criminal
investigation. I don't think that's how
it works that you just restated and
admit that you reclassified them wrong.
Okay? That like it's a clerical error.
When they restate them, this is what
this chart looks like. They are far and
away the most invested in affiliated
assets. Okay? So, nonetheless, they had
to sell it. They're under DOJ
investigation. and now he sold a big
chunk of a prime asset to the
president's family. And so we'll see
where the DOJ investigation goes. Uh I
wish the appearance of improprieties and
corruption wasn't there. But under this
administration, when you're under
investigation, they're seizing your
phone, they're getting all your records,
and you've basically been caught. You
know, I would love to hear how this one
gets squared away, right? how that's not
criminal for for having insurance books
that don't disclose that you're more
leveraged to affiliated assets than any
other insurer out there. Not a clerical
error, folks. Pretty sure that's a
pretty important clarification that
you're talking about under DOJ
investigation. See where it goes.
And yeah, even when he bought that team,
there were questions.
Nonetheless, we got an S&P up by 56
points right now as the market marches
on and we got a VIX right now at 1473.
All right, talking about risks in the
market.
How about a super El Nino, man? As
somebody in Florida, I tell you folks,
it's getting very hot and humid in
Florida. And listen, we choose to live
here. We got it made. I love Florida. I
love the weather. It's sunny and blue
skies
often. We get a lot of rain at certain
portions. And this is kind of our
winter, right? Very hard to do a lot of
things outside when it's 100° and humid,
but very hard to do a lot of things
outside when it's freezing cold up in
the northeast, etc. Right? We all have
our pros and cons, but yeah, so I pay
close attention, fingers crossed, coming
into hurricane season. And yeah, almost
a 70% chance of a historic El Nino. And
those are the prediction markets. over a
69% chance of a historic event that will
exceed the strength of previous Elnino
events dating back to the 50s.
[snorts]
Greater than 90% chance of a very strong
event during the northern hemisphere,
fall and winter. Right, it carries not
just the summer.
El Nino declared in June, strengthened
in July. Pacific surface surface
temperatures almost 4 degrees above
normal in some areas. That's in the
Pacific, man.
In the coming months, El Nino will
likely bring above normal temps to much
of the northern hemisphere, including
Western North America, Southern Europe.
Yeah. So, because it's in the Pacific,
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mean, we all know all about warm waters,
man. That Gulf, that Gulf is just a warm
bathtub come August and September.
All right, we jump around to some other
headlines out there
and yeah, Cisco. So, Cisco lower today
and part of the reason they're lower is
a little bit of unsure unsure nature of
of are they just being conservative and
underpromising I'm going to overd
deliver? Cuz if they're not, why are
they only looking for 7.5 billion in AI
data sales when
they did 4 billion in orders alone
in the recent quarter? You go back to
where they were last year, the company
company generated 4 billion in AI
revenue fiscal last year and they're
only guiding up to 7.5 billion tied to
the AI data center boom this fiscal
year. and the market, you know, the CEO
is saying
that it takes a while. These are big
deals, right? All that revenue doesn't
come in in the quarter you book it.
These are nonlinear orders that are
massive in scale, placed well ahead of
time.
The AI guidance as a good, prudent guide
for the year.
Prudence not exactly paying off today.
Down nearly 10% off 9.4%. The market's
worried, but that they're just not being
uh prudent and that maybe they have an
issue if they're only pulling forward to
barely 7 billion.
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Welcome back, folks. We got an S&P
looking to close at a record price up
7/10%. NASDAQ up 1 and a4% right now.
And right now, folks, as we do each and
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of some of those ratios. And we got
quite a VIX today, Tim. Good afternoon.
>> Yeah, good afternoon. Uh, you know, this
market, I'm kind of surprised, you know,
that we're in the weakest quarter of the
year, and this market's not really shown
any signs of uh weakness. Um the first
uh the bottom window here is a VIX.
Uh actually uh it's coming in somewhere
around 15 or actually looks like about
14. I can't quite tell, but anything
below 17 is it's usually you got I got a
trending market. Uh for some reason you
can't see it there, but uh I I got a
green area, I got a yellow area, and I
got a pink area. Okay, the green area is
when the uh weekly S this is a weekly
chart both on the uh S&P and uh the S&P
VIX ratio. Anyhow, the top window is
this window here is the weekly uh S&P
and when below it is a weekly S&P VIX
ratio. The green areas are when times
when both the uh VIX is above the Bing
Ballinger band, the weekly Ballinger
band and the S&P is above
uh the mid Ballinger band. The yellow
area is when the S&P is above the mid
Ballinger band and the uh S&P is below
the Ballinger band. So that's like a
warning sign. Um uh so we're back to
green here and we got a little yellow
right here. uh the yellow turns into to
pink when both of them fall below the
mid Ballinger band. Well, back in uh
looks like about a month earlier, the
SPX VIX ratio fell below the mid
Ballinger band. It did back here, but
the SP stayed above the mid Ballinger
band. So, it went from yellow to green
and went back to yellow. When both of
them are below the mid Ballinger band,
that's the pink area. That's when the
declining markets you got. So that
happened there. You got another yellow
area here. The Ballinger band or the S&P
was above the mid Ballinger band, but
the yellow area, the S&P fell below the
Ballinger band. And so then you get the
pink area when below that's below the
mid Ballinger band and that's when
declines happen. right now. Uh you got
the uh weekly S&P above the mid
Ballinger band and you got the S&P fix
ratio above the mid Ballinger band. So
trends up normally uh the SPIX fix ratio
will fall below mid Ballinger band to
give you a warning sign. Will that turn
into a sell signal? Will turn into a
sell signal when the S&P falls below the
mid Ballinger band. Okay. So right now
there's neither one. Uh this is the
daily spy. Uh you had a sign of strength
right here above the previous highs.
These were previous highs here, the June
July highs [laughter]
and you went above them and uh you had a
sign of strength and you kind of went
sideways for days. Now we're going
higher and the ratio more or less uh
this is a daily SPX VIX ratio down here.
More or less you're still hitting new
highs here.
>> Yeah. Uh so uh not seeing any signs of a
of a of a top. And I here's another
indicator works pretty well. Uh the top
window is the RSI uh 14.
And I I put areas of this chart goes
back to looks like about late 2020. So
it's quite a few years. I marked the
areas in pink. the times when the uh uh
RSI 14 fails to get above uh 60 which is
that line right here.
>> So um so you can see here it topped out
around 60. That was a top. It topped out
around
>> 60 there.
>> Uh right around 60 there. Another 60
right here. Well, we're at 67.89. And I
think we're a little bit higher than at
right now when I rounded off called it
68. So we're kind of way above uh above
a danger area on RSI.
>> So
trends up. So I don't know.
>> And the VIX So the VIX is is let me ask
you the VIX is it pretty important the
VIX overall because of those ratios that
that you look at Tim. I mean they can
drive a lot of the action in terms of
the spy VIX and how it leads it. We have
a VIX at 1469 right now and it's only
been lower like you know going back the
last year like a few days around
Christmas Tim like like I'm talking
about like Christmas Eve and the day
after Christmas when you hit 1338 which
is a pretty remarkable statement the
last year that that's the only thing
that has less of a you know a lower VI a
VIX.
>> Yeah. Yeah. There's just, you know,
sometimes the VIX will give you, you
know, look at this chart again. You
know, the VIX uh this was uh 2024.
You know, it got dangerous here, but
nothing happened to the market. Market
just kept staying above the mid
Ballinger band,
>> but you know, the VIX was not even
>> close to giving a warning. You know,
we're hitting a new on the S&P VIX ratio
on weekly time frame. We're hitting
higher highs right here. the ratios.
>> Yeah.
>> Uh keeps going up.
>> Pretty impressive.
>> Yeah. So VIX usually gives a warning and
there's not even a warning sign here and
momentum usually peaks out before the
market peaks out. Well, momentum is
really staying strong, which is, you
know, another way major RS momentum is
the RSI. You we're knocking the door 70.
>> So that's not usually an area where tops
occur. So how high is high? I don't
know. I had one point where this uh know
let me get back uh let's see this one
this you know I I thought this this
sideways range here uh you know the
trading range on on a bigger time yeah
maybe see it here better this trading
range right here was the halfway point
of the next move up
>> okay so if you take the bottom up here
and you measure to there and you add it
up it comes up around 860 so you Maybe
that's going to be true. I don't know.
Uh you don't want to be short cuz
there's several different indicators
according to VIX and according to the
RSI, uh this market wants to go higher.
And also, if you notice, yeah, yesterday
we had a trend close of 1.28.
So, we're actually rallying and the
market's shows a little bit of panic on
the rally.
So, that's also a good sign. So
>> yeah,
>> um you know um
>> what do you what do you think about the
volume and and I agree with everything
you're saying but you know and this how
do you step in front of a market this
strong with nobody paying no there's no
sellers here man at all. Um what do you
think about the volume? I was looking
cuz yeah you you pointed it out the
great strength it had on kind of the run
at the beginning of July on the
beginning of this run that we had
>> and we've dropped off a little bit since
then. Today looks to be a little light.
You know you see what what we've done
since we've been up there, right? We're
going to break it on lighter volume
today on a daily basis. We got a spy
doing 24 million right now. And that's
that's What do you think about that? Any
any see what happens.
>> You know, it's not ideal. You know, you
have to have a group of indicators kind
of giving the same signal. We got one
that's not good, which is volume. I
>> tell you what, back folks, we'll finish
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>> Welcome back, folks. We got an S&P
likely closing if we're where we are
right now in 18 minutes at a record
price up about 7/10%. We're talking with
Tim Ord, author of the ORD Oracle. Tim,
if you could just finish that thought
when you were talking about volume, how
you look at something like that because
I would agree that man, the the this the
signs in this market right now for
bullish, but how do you look at
something like that?
>> Well, yeah, you got to look at a lot of
different type indicators. when you get
I don't know my opinion when you get two
or three or maybe even four that favor
you and you get one or two that not you
go with the majority and volume ideally
is kind of one of my main stays the
things I look at
>> and I don't like volume hitting a new
high but it can hit a new high on
lighter volume for a spell before it
reacts. So maybe uh maybe we're heading
for some sort of a high but
>> yeah we'll see was it was not today. Um,
no.
>> Not today. I know.
>> And uh the VIX will probably give us
some signs and it's not giving us any
signs today. It's now at 1463. Quite a
VIX, man. Let's move on to medals,
please.
>> All right. So, this is a momentum chart.
Uh the bottom window is the uh GD. This
is a daily chart, I think. Yeah, it's
cumulative daily. Um this is a
cumulative up down volume on this window
right here. And this and the bottom one
is cumulative advanced decline. And uh
so so it measures there's like 61 stocks
in the ETF of GDX and it measures of
those 61 stocks. It measures all that
advanced decline of the 61 stocks and up
and the all up down volume for all 61
stocks. So it's a cumulative about 61
stocks is measuring uh what's going on.
So it's a good indicator. This was kind
of a momentum indicator is not designed
to catch the the tops or bottoms cuz uh
the green area is when both these
indicators this one here and this one
here above the mid ballinger band when
it gets below the mid Ballinger band
which it did here and it did here is
when it's a sell signal. So you can see
that you know the top was here didn't
give a great sell signal but we're back
to green again. We we're we're on both
indicators. We're above the mid
Ballinger band on both of them. Uh and I
think the I didn't put a weekly chart
up, but I think the weekly flipped a
bullish shoe. So, you'll have some sort
of a consolidations along the way, but
the chart momentum wise has flipped up.
So, we're starting a rally that may last
a while. Here's um we showed this chart
last time. Um the bottom window is the
GDX up down volume with a 70-day 79 day
average. So this is not cumitive. This
is a moving average. So it gives you a
different picture than a cumulative one.
So the next one up to 50-day average of
the up down volume and the top one
62-day average. If you're all if you
notice they're all turned up and
normally when they turned up they went
down.
So when you get down on the 6Q day down
around minus
15. That's usually exhaustion to the
downside. On a 50-day average, uh, it
gets down around 20. On 70-day average,
it gets down around 10.
>> Okay.
>> So, all three of them hit their exhaust
move to the downside. So, on a 50.
>> Quite a pullback, man. From 120 almost
to 70, right? I said, man, that was
quite a pullback for, you know, it
matches up. Yeah.
>> Right. So, you want to catch it when all
these indicators get down to the
exhaustion to the downside.
>> Yes.
>> And that's the key. You don't want to
pick your bottom and wait for the
exhaustion. That's the reason why I got
these red lines here. This these are
exhaustion moves to the downside. And
but once they turn up, sometimes they
build a little base. That one looked
like had a couple of weak base, maybe a
month base. Uh this one kind of the same
thing. it just kind of went down and
kind of just made a bottom over, you
know, couple three weeks. Don't know how
long. Sometimes you did spike down and
turn straight back up. These build a
little base and now they're finally all
turning up. Well, once they turn up,
that means you hit exhaustion to the
downside. So that the selling pressure
is done. Whoever sold sold. So what's
left is basically just buying pressure.
And that's what's starting right now.
And how long the rallies last. So if you
look, you know, this is kind of a big
time frame. So 50-day average, you know,
you got 21 day average in a month or
average trading days in a month. So
you're looking at 50 days, you're over 2
months there. 62 days about 3 months. 79
days is what about close to 4 months or
better somewhere in that vicinity. So
you're looking to rally, it's going to
be multi-week if not multimonth. If you
notice uh this rally in 2025 started
lasted well into u you know looks like
about
those uh two it wasn't quite a year I
guess but you know a lot of them uh are
going to be multimonth so I think we're
going to rally until next March give or
take. Uh so that's kind of a cycle for
gold. Seems like gold bottoms around
July anywhere from July to October and
usually March is kind of a high
seasonality period. So that's probably
what we're going to do here. How high is
high? Well, at least uh yeah, I did get
a chart about that. So anyhow,
momentum for the up down volume has
turned up. That suggests we're in a low.
Uh the pattern that forming here, this
is uh this is a weekly chart. Uh it's a
falling wedge and we got down in here
and we get a kind of close call. I was
bullish, you know, start three four
weeks ago, you know, around that 75
range. We did fall back down around 70.
But anyhow, I was kind of bullish. I
thought, well, you know, we're at a low.
You know, trouble is,
you know, pick the exact low timewise a
little bit harder. I just know
price-wise we're at a low. I think what
we were talking about on that I'm
bullish. You know, I said that two,
three weeks ago. Well, nothing really
happened. We we did wiggle a little bit
lower, but it did turn out. The wedge
did turn out. You have to have a sign of
strength out of this wedge. If you don't
have a sign of strength, you're going to
go right back into some sort of a base
building period, if not another decline.
>> So, you got to have that SOS.
>> And what a sign, right? Totally.
>> Yeah. Right. A sign. And you kind of
compare it to the, you know, this is a
weekly chart, so you kind of compare it
to the weeks before. So, you know, we're
up about, you know, if you look at these
last, I don't know, month, month and a
half, you know, you're up about 30%
volume. So, that's definitely a sign of
strength off that low. We actually had
one right here, too. And I was watching
that. Normally, when you get a sign of
strength inside of a pattern, you want
to stay bullish. Even though it falls
back, you want that volume on the
fallback to be less. And that's exactly
what I hyper. That's the reason got me
got me kind of confident that I knew
this area was a low because I seen this
sign of strength here. And then I fell
back on lighter volume. You can see the
sign of strength. Uh,
>> you know what's cool about it? I'll add
my own too is that you took out the
whole October of last year. Now that was
tremendous volume of the highs. But
pretty cool how you almost engulfed the
highs of October of last year because
that was an important area and so you
get the sign of strength. You take out
the consolidation recently and then you
blow apart that high there. That's real
support, you know, of that general area.
That high and then that pullback there
is kind of that area that gave it to
pretty cool I thought. Yeah.
>> Yeah. Yeah. So, so anyhow, we got a
science strength this week. Uh this is a
weekly chart and this week's volume is
probably not going to be high as last
week's volume. So when you go start to
go up, you want the the previous high
the current high to be as volumewise
equal if not greater than the previous
high. And uh you can also measure uh how
high is this volume here compared to
this high here. And you need to be equal
than it was. So this is a consolidation.
I think you're going to find support
around 85. That's the reason I got that
line right there. But but you know, we
may pull back for I don't know, a week
or two, but ultimately we're going to
head up to that high of 117 area. Will
we break it?
>> I don't know. But uh 30%, Tim, in less
than a month in that GDX. So yeah, maybe
digest for for a bit in a healthy
market, but quite a market. I agree,
man. Gold. Tim, appreciate the time.
Appreciate you walking through the
markets as always, folks. Check it out
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We'll talk to you on Tuesday, Tim.
>> All right, talk to you then. Thanks a
lot.
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close folks. 7822 right now up by more
than 610%. You got a NASDAQ up by 1.2%
2% and yeah, workday. So, Silver Lake
going after workday, they're up by 17%.
And hey, at at at a certain price,
you'd sell an equity and a certain
price, you'd buy an equity, right? And
maybe we're approaching some of these
software companies down to 100. We're
bouncing from there. You were at about
170. Yeah. When this news began, right,
you were at 163 last week. And so yeah,
as you're talking about in the dent,
some of those software companies,
Salesforce up by 4%, Adobe up by 5%, in
it up by 7% right now, Palanteer up by
5%.
Saying, "Yeah, maybe there is some value
left." Now you back off from that spike
at 227, but Workday up by 17% right now.
Cisco down by 9.1. Some tough numbers
for them.
And yeah, you know, they want to do away
with quarterly reporting, folks. And now
they're scaling back scrutiny of shell
companies. Okay. And the president's own
secretary of state, Marco Rubio,
co-sponsored this bill in 2021. They got
it through with a veto cuz it was so
popular. Rubio,
called this legislation the most
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Rubio back then the most significant
anti-he speaks for itself. S&Ps folks
quite a market. We got a VIX right now.
We're finished with a VIX. Why not?
1460. How about it man? S&P is up by 50
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