Atlanta, we have a depth chart! Falcons vs Broncos preseason preview | Atlanta Falcons Podcast
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The Atlanta Falcons podcast hosts Will McFad and Tori Mlaney kick off their preseason preview by celebrating the recent extension of Bijan Robinson before diving into a detailed analysis of the team's newly released depth chart. The duo emphasizes that while fans are eager for these lists, they should be viewed as preliminary guides rather than final declarations, noting that head coach Kevin Stefanski has stated starters will play limited snaps in preseason games to stay sharp without guaranteeing regular-season roles. A key takeaway from the chart is that Tua Tagovailoa and Michael Penix Jr. have not yet been officially named starting quarterbacks for Week One of the regular season; instead, they are expected to share duties during the upcoming game against the Denver Broncos before a final decision is made later in training camp.
Significant attention is also given to special teams and defensive lineup changes as the team prepares for its first preseason matchup. The hosts highlight that Bijan Robinson will handle kickoff returns alongside Tyler Goodson, while Zachariah Branch, Alamae Zakaria, Dylan Drummond, and Jahleel Addae are listed for punt duties in a move that underscores the coaching staff's emphasis on special teams units. On defense, Brandon Doris is positioned as an end to showcase his versatility learned at Oregon, with Samson Ebukam serving as his backup following Jaylen Walker's injury. Additionally, Avon Trail is primarily listed as a nickel back after extensive cross-training sessions, though the hosts express excitement about seeing other players like Ethan Onian step up in live situations and potentially earn more reps against defensive ends during Friday night's game.
The podcast concludes with an exclusive "Know Your Foe" segment breaking down the upcoming season opener for Atlanta against their non-divisional rival, the Washington Commanders. Tori Mlaney provides a comprehensive look at how Washington transformed from a 2024 NFC Championship contender to a 5-and-12 team in 2025 due to severe injuries that plagued both quarterback Jaden Daniels and much of the roster. The analysis details Washington's offseason strategy under Dan Quinn, which involves resetting their offensive identity away from shotgun formations toward traditional play-action concepts featuring new coordinator David Blau, while defensively focusing on speed and versatility with Donte Jones leading the unit.
Ultimately, the hosts draw a fascinating parallel between the two franchises, noting that both Atlanta and Washington are striving to build physical, disciplined identities centered around strong running games and structured defenses. While philosophically similar in their approach to football, the Commanders' success will hinge on whether Jaden Daniels can return to his explosive rookie form from 2024 after a season marred by health issues. The Falcons aim to exploit Washington's potential reliance on play-action passes by forcing them into long drives and containing the quarterback, making this matchup an intriguing test of which team can better execute their new physical systems in live game conditions.
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What's up Falcons fans and welcome back
to the Atlanta Falcons podcast network.
I am Will McFad and I'm joined as always
by Tori Mlaney. We are just two days
away from the Falcons first preseason
game. We have a lot of training camp to
talk about and we have a lot of news
that has happened really since we last
hit the mic. So there's a lot of stuff
to cover today. Um, but we're going to
kind of start with a little bit of Bjon
talk. We have to celebrate him a little
bit more. We're going to get our first
kind of look at the depth chart today.
>> Yeah. So,
>> Houston, the depth chart has landed and
it's the only thing I've looked at
today.
>> It literally is the only thing that Tori
has been working on.
>> I literally feel like I've gone crazy
with this dang depth chart. I swear
>> you're But you're doing the people's
work. It's
>> all you care about. I know. I know.
>> It's like what we're waiting for. that
first depth chart of the year. You and I
have actually spent so much time
>> between the moment that like you kind of
got everything together and we hit
record.
>> That's all we've talked about is the
depth chart. So, of course, it's what
the people want to hear about.
>> I know. It's crazy cuz I'm sitting here
simultaneously. One side of my brain is
like the depth chart doesn't matter and
the other side of my brain's like but
like where did they put X Y or Z person?
>> We love to talk ball, right? And it's
it's just new content to talk about. So,
it's great. So, we will kind of continue
some of that conversation, I think, a
little bit here and then go through just
training camp news, notes, our
expectations for the preseason, what
Kevin Stfansky has said about those uh
will starters kind of who's going to
play, what should we be looking for. Um,
so that is all on today's show. And then
at the end of the show, you're going to
get our last nonFC South rival version
of Know the Foe. Tori is gonna be
breaking down the Washington Commanders
who I think are kind of on the short
list maybe of that non-division rival a
little bit because of that game that
Jane Daniels and Michael Pennix Jr. had.
It's it's like those are the fun out of
division and every era I feel like has
has one.
>> It was one of those games too where I
even think I say in the know your foe
segment later on that you will hear
later on. I I think I said something
along the lines of like this is one of
those games that I that I feel like has
ripple effects. Yeah. For some reason or
another. And a lot of it is because of
what I felt like it was two years ago
and the ripple effects I felt coming off
of that game and seeing what Michael
Pennix did in that game.
>> Are we going to have another moment like
that?
>> And now you're making me think even a
little bit further back. But there were
two years I think back toback during the
the Arthur Smith era where like Don
Payne knocked that ball down right at
the like Washington has been those there
have been some really good matchups
in the last like five six years between
these two teams. So I think I'm on to
something. That's the short list there.
[laughter] Uh but let's uh spend a
little time wrapping up hot extension
summer as I have dubbed it here in
Atlanta.
>> No more hot girl summer. It's hot
extension summer. hot extension summer
for the Atlanta Falcons or at least it
was and what a summer it was.
>> But it ends with Bjan Robinson getting
done. And
>> in kind of the aftermath of that, I
wanted to do a story about what makes
Bon Robinson just such a singular
oneofone type of player. So I reached
out to some of the best running backs
who I watched growing up. Edin James,
Tiki Barber, Fred Taylor, uh, and they
were really kind enough to sit down and
and talk with me about what they saw
from their perspective about what makes
Bjon great. And I mean, names like Barry
Sanders, Leenian Tomlinson, uh, Walter
Payton
>> got brought up. And when you get
mentioned
>> Marshall Faulk,
>> Marshall Faulk, like
>> it was it was like such a blast from the
past, but it's also helped me have an
even greater appreciation for just how
special Bjan is because like
>> he's he not only is like in that
conversation,
>> he's the direct lineage of that
conversation, the best like most
game-changing running backs from the
golden age of like offense. defensive
football when we talk about all the the
quarterbacks, but there was a real
evolution of the running back position
that took place. Work done was part of
that. You know, Michael Turner was in a
weird way a throwback version and that's
why we all loved him was because he was
just a bowling ball 1980s running back.
But
>> it was it was so cool hearing them and
what they had to say about Bjon. His
balance, his vision, his anticipation,
getting to relive. I think one night I
just sat and went on True Media. Yeah.
And I put like EPA. I sorted like
playbyplay.
>> Yeah.
>> And I was like, I'm just I could be here
for two hours just watching like
sevenyard Bjon runs.
>> Yeah.
>> It's it's so great. I've talked long
enough. Uh Tori, I want to I want to
hear your thoughts on Bjan the floor.
>> I was just going to to double down on
Will has worked so hard over the last
what you've been working this for six
weeks,
>> maybe like eight weeks, maybe two
months.
>> It's a true like summer project. Yeah.
And so make sure and check it out. It's
on atlant falcons.com right now. I would
absolutely recommend reading it. It's a
really fun read and it is cool hearing
from some of the greats about Bjon and
the potential of him being a great in
and of himself.
>> Yeah. So I I shared it out on my social
media accounts. Um go check it out on on
the website. Uh but it it's a great
story. It's a fun way to again kind of I
think recognize and celebrate a person
in the moment who we already understand
to be
>> in the grand scheme of league history
>> a special player, right? you know, like
we we covered Julio, we covered Matt,
like we we understand Tony Gonzalez,
like there are players um and I think
there are a lot of players
>> around the league like or on this team
who are excellent players, but Bjon is
just singular and it was really cool to
to hear that.
>> Um,
>> awesome.
>> So, let's get on to a little training
camp talk, shall we?
>> Let's do it.
>> All right. What was the big news coming
out of Wednesday morning's press
conference? It was the first time since
Monday that we had heard from Kevin
Stfansky. He told us on Monday, hey,
>> little bit early. We still got, you
know, four or five days before that
first preseason game. Check back with me
on Wednesday.
>> We might have a little news for you. He
did. What was it?
>> So, starters are playing in the
preseason for the Atlanta Falcons. And
as Kevin Stfansky has told us
previously, I believe this was, you
know, a couple weeks ago, his philosophy
is he wants to see starters in the
preseason, even just a little bit. And
he said, you know, in order to get
ready, you got to stay ready. year, he
said something along those lines of like
in order to play football, you actually
got to go out and play football, which I
appreciated. And um but he he did kind
of talk us through the plan and it was
funny because he was he even said I I
think what he said was, you know, this
is all in pencil right now and it'll be
in pen once we get through this next
practice. We'll we're sitting here now
and I think the plan is probably a bit
more closer to being in pen, but the
plan as it is is starters will play.
starters are and a a handful of starters
are only gonna play about one series and
he said or 10 plays. Whatever comes
first. If they go out like you know
>> you go three and out. Hey boys, get back
out there,
>> right? You're you're in for another
series. But
>> about 10 plays is what is what Kevin
Stansky said. And that involves and when
we're talking about starters, that's
going to involve Tua. And so Tua is
going to get the start against the
Denver Broncos on Friday evening 7:00
Mercedes-Benz Stadium be there. Oh yeah.
>> But the follow-up question is like does
this mean that Tua is your starter in
2026 regular season?
>> Starting over Mike,
>> right? And the answer to that is no.
Kevin Spansky was very adamant that like
he's not this just because he's saying
someone's a starter right now and going
to start the game the week one preseason
game does not mean that they're going to
be the starter. and he's naming starters
for week one of the regular season. So I
want to make that very very clear.
>> And Michael is is not even playing in
this game. Right.
>> Right. Yes. So what Kevin Spansky said
is they'll start with Tua. He'll get
that one series 10 plays then they'll go
to Cooper Rush and then they'll have
Jack Strand finish out the game. Michael
Banick Jr. is still not cleared for 11
on 111 teamwork. And that is actually
something that was also interesting
today was Kevin Stansky even gave us a
little bit of tidbit of information
about the joint practices coming up in
Indianapolis where he was saying Michael
the plan for Michael Penn is to go up to
Indie for joint practices and do exactly
what he's been doing which is he's
throwing he's he's working through
individual drills. He's throwing in
one-on- ones. He's throwing in seven on
sevens but no team work. And we talked
to Michael Penn after practice today and
he's talking about his health and and
trying to trust his health and
everything like that, but that he feels
good, but the one thing he can't do
right now is take a hit. So, they're
staying away from that right now. So,
that's
>> the big news of of all of what the last
probably 24 hours has been. And I one
other thing that was very well done I
will add to that is we spoke to Alex
Vampelt the quarterback's coach on
Tuesday and he you know again kind of
reiterated that they are aware of the
differences in what Tua and and Mike can
do they are adjusting to some degree
giving Mike more of those seven on seven
reps. So that work even though that is
kind of the only place it can come. He's
getting extensive work there, right? So
Tua, you know, is again handling that 11
on 111, will get that preseason stuff,
but Mike's doing more than nothing. He's
doing a lot on the field.
>> Yeah, [clears throat] I think we talked
about that what last week. It's like
it's not just he's he's not just out
there hanging out like he actually is
participating in a lot of practice, just
not 11 on 111 stuff.
>> Um, cool. We're going to get to uh the
other positions kind of when we talk
about the preseason game and what we
want to see there, but depth chart,
>> you wanna you want to kind of walk us
through what we saw on Wednesday
afternoon?
>> Yes, I absolutely can. So, for everybody
looking at the depth chart, if you're
following along or have it pulled up or
whatever,
>> follow along. Yeah,
>> follow along. You will see that Jawan
Taylor and Michael Penn Jr. are listed
as like the fourth reserve, like the
last they're in that last column. And
it's not because that's really where
they are in the debt chart. It's because
they are injured. They're they're given
injured player designation. Yes. So all
>> it's almost like a by default kind of
thing.
>> Yes. So I am honestly like there are so
many times where I'm like I don't even
care about the depth chart. Depth charts
don't mean anything to me. But I know it
means a lot to a lot of the people
listening at home right now.
>> I love to be evaluated against my peers,
Tori. I love depth [laughter] charts.
>> Well, I So, I I say all that to say like
take depth charts with a grain of salt.
Use them as a guide, not as just the
official this is what's going to be for
the remainder of our days in the 2026
season. Um, but I I do think it's going
to be really interesting to see how some
of these guys perform. talking about
that.
>> Was there was there any like one or two
like positions that kind of immediately
jumped out to you?
>> Yeah, so it was interesting. I thought
that the defensive lineup um
particularly in the defensive front was
was pretty interesting.
They have it listed as kind of a fiveman
front with two defensive ends and three
defensive linemen. And Brandon Doris was
actually listed as a defensive end which
I thought Yeah. which I thought was
interesting. But I think we've seen him
kind of line up all over the place with
this front. That was his calling card
coming out of Oregon as well was that
versatility where you literally saw him
line up every single position on on
Oregon's defense. That is a new use I
think for him and an evolution maybe of
what we saw to start training camp.
>> But clearly they want to get their best
players out there on the field. Brandon
Doris is absolutely one of those. And in
the wake of Jaylen Walker's injury,
>> you know, you have an opening there. I
would be curious to see if this evolves
at all.
>> Yes, I am too.
>> Preseason.
>> And Samson Ebucham is Brandon Durless is
listed as his backup, which I thought
was was also interesting because I think
we both have been really pleased with
what we've seen from Samson through
especially the recent bulk once the pads
have come online.
>> Yeah, even even when Jaylen was was out
there, he [snorts] was operating as the
another as the other starter on the
right side of the the that's curious. So
again, that could just be a semantics
thing with the depth chart.
>> Exactly.
>> Right. It could be when the ball is
snapped week one. It is a Yeah.
>> Yes. So, and then I'll add to Avon
Terrell listed as the backup nickel,
>> which was interesting to me because
we've seen Avon Trail crossraining quite
a bit, especially in the last maybe
seven practices. Yep.
>> Since the pads have come on. And so
seeing him
>> primarily listed and only listed as a
nickel and not listed under the outside
corners. Like I thought that was kind of
an interesting wrinkle. Like we were
talking before we hit record about does
is is this an indicator of where their
homes are? You know where they are going
to make their homes in the 2026 season?
And it's a good question for these
coaches and and what they envision these
guys being. You want to hear about kick
return, punt return.
>> Oh yes.
>> Okay. So kick return, Brian Robinson
Jr., Tyler Goodson, Alamade Zakias,
Zachariah Branch.
>> That Brian Robinson Jr. and Tyler
Goodson being the first two names out of
like
>> Alamade and Zachariah I'm very hyped
for. But I we'll get to in a second that
I think
>> having the combination of those two
running backs back there on kickoff
>> I I love it.
>> Okay, great punt return. Zachariah
Branch, Alamay Zakius, Dylan Drummond,
Jan Dodson.
>> Love all four of those. I think those
are the right players in the right
spots.
>> Yes. And I think Dylan Drummond here, I
think it's really a really nice um
inclusion here for him as he's somebody
who's fighting for a roster spot and
fighting for um making that 53man
roster. So seeing him there alongside
Zachariah Branch, Lamad Zakius, and
Johan Dodson I thought was interesting.
One thing Kevin Stfansky has reiterated
at every opportunity is like special
teams is extremely important. Um, so
that is a big indicator and I asked
Kevin Stfansky about both Dylan Drummond
and Chris Blair last week and he said
that they were they were trusted
valuable players. Like those are big
words coming from from your head coach.
So I I think that bodess very well for
Dylan Drummond.
>> Um, all right let's talk about the game.
Let's kind of
>> okay
>> pivot to the players that we want to see
a lot of in the game and maybe a couple
of guys that you think
>> could really really help themselves like
guys who have
>> played well out there on the practice
field and and with a good first
preseason game. It's like all right
these guys could see the role expand in
joint practices they could. So um we'll
start with the positions that maybe or
the players you want to see a lot of
reps from on Friday night. Yeah, I
really and we'll we'll get to him later
on, I think, in this episode, too, but
Ethan Onian has been somebody who I have
been very pleased with over the last
five days, the last bulk of practices.
Uh, you know, he's somebody who coming
into training camp, we were seeing a lot
of Michael Jerrell taking those right
tackle reps with the ones. that slowly
but surely turned into a pretty heavy
rotation between three guys between
Michael Jerel, Brandon Walton, Ethan
Onian.
>> Yeah.
>> Recently since probably Friday or
Saturday, Ethan Onian has taken the bulk
of the first team right tackle reps,
which and I think he's looked the part.
He He's tall. He's strong. There there
were a couple moments where even in
one-on- ones like offensive line versus
defensive line, I think that he's made
some really
solid plays and and not and not in a
vacuum either. Like it's not like he's
really good in one-on- ons. It's he
carries it over, I think, into some of
these 11 on 111 more live periods. So,
he's somebody who I I would love to see
in a real true live tackling, live
defensive ends going after the
quarterback, like a live pocket. Does
that translate? Because I think he's had
a really good few days of practice, and
I want to see more of it.
>> I think that's a great choice. He is a
player that I would expect to see a lot
from. And it was funny, we we got the
chance to talk to him. He talked about
how much he's learning. Obviously, it's
the proverbial, you know, drinking
through a fire hose, but he brought up
Star Wars
>> and and was like, you know, it's like
when Luke's kind of attacking the Death
Star and there's just like everything
flying around all over his head. And so
later on we were like, oh, are you you a
big like Star Wars movie fan? He was
like,
>> h
[laughter]
kind of looked at each other like,
you're the one that brought Star Wars
up. We got obviously we thought you were
just had a Luke Skywalker poster in in
the dorm, but
>> I guess it was a great analogy. Did I
ever tell you that I have a blueprint of
the Millennium Falcon at in like my
spare bedroom?
>> I I did I think know that. I think I've
seen it. I don't know.
>> It was hanging in my office.
>> Okay, there you go. I was like it was
one of the first things I clocked that
in the Marvel uh the kind of watercolor
Marvel
Thor Captain America watercolors.
>> It was it was a huge plus in the Tory
column in my mind. Yeah. Early on in our
our relationship [laughter] for sure. Um
that's a great choice. I am kind of
looking at that nickel spot and really
there are two guys so I'm going to kind
of have a copout answer but I AJ Woods
and Darn Holmes I just want to become a
little more familiar with their games
and I think these preseason games are
going to be a really good opportunity to
just for a three and four period stretch
and this actually PSA to everybody out
there. This is how I recommend watching
preseason games is identify some players
beforehand going in that you are curious
about that you want to that you've heard
us talk about that you have heard or
seen people on Twitter talk about lock
in on them for a full series. Just watch
Ethan Onianwa. Don't watch the ball.
Just watch him from snap to whistle. See
what he's about. Watch the linebackers.
Watch Harold Perkins Jr. That is my
recommendation and that's what I'm going
to be doing with the Nicholls is Darn
Holmes has been a player who's had
flashes for me. AJ Woods player who's
had flashes for me, but I haven't been
able to watch him for long stretches.
>> Yeah, I'm glad you brought up Harold
Perkins, too, because we've seen a lot
of Kendall Daniels and Harold Perkins
side by side because Divine Diablo
unfortunately suffered an injury
>> in the Saturday practice under the
lights at Lineer High School.
>> Did any indicator of if he will be out
there? No indicator from Kevin Spansky.
I think it there was a question asked of
him on Wednesday of hey, you know, Avon
Trail is working through something. Lale
London, Deshawn Han, like there's a
group of defenders. Yeah, there is.
>> That didn't practice or were just out
there. Jesse Bates the third like
Brillin wasn't out there today.
>> Yes. Brilland Trice. So, what are kind
of some of the plans? And th some of
those guys were all bulked together and
so Kevin was just kind of like, "Yeah,
they're all working through it and
they're all in different phases." So,
>> if you you give a coach an out,
>> he's going to take it.
>> He's going to take it,
>> you know, and I can respect that.
>> It's money ball. They're just giving it
to you. Take it.
>> Yes. But to the point, Kendall Daniels,
Harold Perkins, I've been very I've been
very pleased that we've gotten to see so
much of them. Obviously not pleased that
Divine Diablo was hurt. That's a that
that's not great. and he's working
through it and it, you know, Kevin
Spansy did say it's nothing serious, but
this is a good opportunity for Kendall
Daniels and Harold Perkins to show us
what they've got. And I think that there
could be a potential that we see quite a
bit of them in the the preseason game,
particularly in that first half and how
Kendall Daniels, who has the green dot
right now, how he commands the defense,
how he gets the play call in, how he
gets guys aligned, and then Harold
Perkins, how he works off of that. those
two guys and how they one work as
individuals but also two work as a
tandem is something that I'm very very
much looking forward to seeing in a live
game because
actually these guys can go and hit
somebody.
>> Yes. And that that is going to be huge.
And I don't care like how old you are
whether it's elementary, middle school,
high school, what the first chance and
opportunity to get to go hit somebody
else after months of going against your
own teammates is is exciting and
special. Uh let's go quickly to some
guys who we think with a really good
performance in preseason game one. And
this is giving me an idea for a totally
different exercise, but it would be
really interesting to almost have like a
board where you like
>> the positions that we enter camp with
some questions with and then like the
games in which we could
>> close the door on them or check them
off. And it's like
>> quarter number two. I think if Mike
Hughes has a really good solid first
series and he'd be a guy that I think
would be out there for one series
>> then that answers a lot of the qu kind
of puts a lot of stuff to bed in my mind
>> right
>> I would look at a player like Dylan
Drummond who we mentioned if he goes out
and is just very solid steady three
catches kind of just does his thing
>> I think he would help himself Tyler
Goodson we mentioned is another player
who I don't think the running back
battle gets put to bed in any way shape
or form
I've just been impressed with him and I
I think that he has kind of checked a
lot of boxes in my mind and preseason
game running backs are going to get a
lot of action. So, let's see what he's
about.
>> Yeah, I'll add Brilland Trice to that as
well. Don't know like how healthy he is
right now because obviously he's missed
the last couple of practices, but I
really want to see Brilland Trice out on
the field. I thought that he was doing
some good things early in camp this
year. And it's it's kind of one of those
things where we talk a lot we were
talking a lot about Clark Phillips and
how Clark Phillips is somebody who
always flashes in camp and is like
>> very practice again on Wednesday.
>> Yeah. He's just like constantly making
plays and then you know you don't really
see that in the regular season for one
reason or another not really getting out
there. But like I think that Brilan
Trice is somebody who I think has
flashed when he's been healthy.
>> And I want to I want to get him to that
point to where it's like he's not just
we're not just saying like he's flashing
when he's healthy. We're just saying
he's flashing. Yes. And so I I really
hope that
>> for Brilland Trice we get to see him at
some point this preseason. Like that's a
hope for me for me is that like we can
see something out of Brilland Trice
at all. I I just for him I hope he gets
to show it because he showed it to us.
Like I I know it
>> I would forgive you if you're kind of
like, "Yeah, but I gotta see it, Will,
before I believe you and Tori that like
Brilen has looked great and I hope he
gets the chance to to show it because he
looked good in Miami."
>> He looks so good in Miami.
>> He looks so good at that Miami joint
practices too. That's what made his
injuries and the injuries that have
followed so
>> we were coming out of that week of joint
practice.
I literally had written I remember this
vividly. I literally just wrote like
Brillin and huge letters on my like in
my notebook after that pre or not after
like the second joint practice in Miami.
Yeah. And it's like sweat is like
dripping on it and it's like running
everywhere and I'm like no Brillin tric
is like it.
>> You're like that meme where it's just
like Brilan and like nothing else.
>> Nothing else. Yeah.
>> Yeah. I So, we're looking for kind of
those types of performances. Somebody
needs to step up and and show it in that
preseason game one. You mentioned Clark
Phillips.
>> He has a special relationship with uh
with this program with this podcast
studio. He was our first ever camp
champ.
>> He was
>> He was our first ever camp champ, which
speaks to how good he's been in training
camp practices. The man has been
>> He flashes so much in training camp.
He's everywhere all the time.
>> Eric Sabert 2.0. That was my original uh
camp champ. That was kind of the concept
of this came from Eric Albert who's
actually doing pretty well for himself.
Um let's quickly catch up on just our
Cam Champ over the last stretch of
practices. Do you want to go first?
>> You're asking who
>> who is your Cam Champ since we I guess
last
>> since we last spoke.
>> Give me Ethan Onian. I I know I've just
talked about a lot about him, but I
really do think he's had a really good
four or five day block of practices and
he's looked strong. He's looked athletic
and I'm really really wanting to see
what he can do in in the preseason.
>> Great pick. I will say Tyler Goodson. Um
I I've talked a little bit about him
here, but it's his speed. I think his
agility in the hole in particular has
really stood out. And then we got a
chance to talk to him after Saturday
Night Lights. He played football in that
stadium at Lener High School. It was
just so cool. So I'm rooting for him as
a person. And you know, that's always
who I like to reward in a camp jam, too,
is somebody who I I get to
>> Yeah.
>> kind of grow attached to during training
camp.
>> I love that.
>> So, that will do it for today's podcast.
Thank you guys so much again for
listening. The next Falcons pod that you
will get will be tomorrow night,
Saturday morning. We will record
directly after the Broncos game and
recap what we saw and then kind of get a
little bit of a head start on joint
practices in Indiana against the Colts.
I will be live on the ground bringing
you kind of the coverage from that. Uh
so really excited to kind of see they're
going to be some great matchups. Um
Falcons Audible will be be back on
Tuesday to give their thoughts on the
game and joint practices and everything.
Um but for now let's finish it off with
know the foe. Tori, you are up to bat.
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All right guys, we're coming back at you
with another Know Your Foe segment. This
week we are talking about the Washington
Commanders. So really quickly off the
bat, Falcons will play them later in the
year on the road. Could be a big-time
matchup that we potentially look back on
as being a a key turning point in the
season for either team. And I I'll get
into that in a little bit. So let's
start with our starting question that we
always start with. Who were the
Washington Commanders last season? Well,
the 2025 Washington Commanders were a 5
and12 team that for lack I tried to find
a nice way to say this, but for lack of
a better phrase that I found really fell
off the wagon wheel after a superb 2024
season that ended with them going 12 and
five, making it to the NFC Championship
game. Really, it was the Jaden Daniels
year of quarterback play. He was
everywhere and the Washington Washington
Commanders under Dan Quinn really struck
a match that just lit a flame for that
entire season and they were so fun to
watch. Well, that wasn't necessarily the
case going into 2025 despite the fact
that that 2024 team had a lot of
carryover into the next year and also
that the expectations were raised
significantly from the year before. Now,
the main reason for this fall off
obviously help. Jaden Daniels played
only seven games because of injuries and
Washington had 16 starters miss a
combined
103 games. So, that's like across like
how many games each individual played. I
want to make that clear. The defense
deteriorated pretty rapidly as the
season went on because of injuries as
well. The team was eliminated from
playoff contention in December. All in
all, because of these injuries and
because of how things were piling up, it
just they could never get a foothold
anywhere, it felt like. So, the
important context to what the 2025
season was for the Washington Commanders
was that it wasn't a regression in a
sense of like, oh, you it was like a
flash in the pan in 2024 and then they
regressed a little bit. No, it was
because of this
disastrous injury riddled type of season
that the team that was a legitimate
contender and was doing some things
really well coming out of 2024 just did
couldn't sustain anything because they
didn't have the bodies. Uh Daniels is
going to be the central figure for what
this team is in 2026. They're not trying
to go into this 2026 year looking for a
franchise quarterback. They feel like
they have it in Jaden Daniels and so
when he's healthy and trying to get him
back fully healthy, that's where things
lie for Washington right now. So what
was the offseason narrative about this
team? It was about resetting the
identity a little bit. Dan Quinn
essentially decided that the 2025
version had become too dependent on like
the individual talents of some guys and
and too inconsistent across the board.
He moved on from offensive coordinator
Cliff Kenningsberry and defensive
coordinator Joet Jr. replacing with
replacing them with David Blau and Donte
Jones. Specifically, Dan Quinn talked a
lot this off season about wanting a
different type of offensive identity
that was a bit more traditional but also
physical under center formation, zone
runs, motion, play action rather than
kind of living in shotgun and expecting
Jaden Daniels to to create everything
off of that. Defensively, Jones is
really emphasizing speed, versatility,
physicality. The broad narrative of what
this team was over the off season was
they they want to show that 2025 was a a
fluke in and of itself and that they are
a more physical and well-rounded team
than even that 2024 version of
themselves were. So, who was the biggest
offseason departure this off seasonason?
Um, there there's kind of a twofold
answer here. I say it's between Bobby
Wagner and Debo Samuels. Like that that
is kind of where those two names
mattered so much I think to the
Washington Commanders organization that
not having them around in this year is
is pretty impactful. And they also not
just those two but they also lost a lot
of veteran production in obviously
Wagner, Samuel, Zack Z, Austin Eckler
like and a few others. So, but Wagner is
I would argue the biggest like football
identity loss and like who they are. He
was a veteran centerpiece of the
defense, major communicator and leader.
And then from on the offensive side,
similar to to Debo Samuel is like he he
was acquired with the idea that he was
giving that he he was this nice
counterpart to Jaden Daniels and giving
him kind of this explosive option, a
dynamic weapon offensively. And so
that mattered. But the reason why I have
Bobby Wagner maybe as 1A and D. Samuel
as 1B is because of the biggest
offensive addition that the Washington
Commanders made this off season, which
was it has to be Stefon Diggs. Uh, and
this acquisition is, you know, kind of
one of one. I know I said 1A1B between
Wagner and Samuels, but Stefon Diggs is
Stefon Diggs. He signed that. So, the
Washington Commanders this offseason
signed the four-time Pro Bowl receiver
to a one-year deal worth up to $12
million. He comes off of a 10,00 yard
season with New England and gives Daniel
another legitimate veteran separator
opposite Terry McLaren. So that's that's
where we land with the offseason
acquisition and it's a it's kind of one
of those things that separates I think
offensively as they are trying to figure
out what this new identity is with the
new play caller because Diggs arrives
just as Washington's new offense is
emphasizing play action explosive throws
and Dan Quinn even since Stefon Diggs
has has gotten there has been on the
record multiple times really praising
Stefon Diggs football IQ as well as just
like the physicality and and the nature
of of who he is. So, it's been a lot of
there's been a lot of good for Stefon
Diggs in Washington according to to Dan
Quinn. Um, but there is one wrinkle of
of this offensive conversation that I
want everybody to keep an eye on. You
know, obviously we're in the middle of
training camp right now and the
Washington Commanders did lose offensive
tackle Laramie Tonsil for most of the
season because a because he suffered a
torn tricep in training camp. So,
they're not looking to get him back
until December is what reports are
saying right now. So, that's something
to keep an eye on as we're talking about
where this offense goes. So, finally to
wrap us up, what is the team identity of
the Washington Commanders and how does
that match up with Atlanta? I think the
fun part about this matchup particularly
is that Washington and Atlanta are
really trying to become somewhat similar
teams. You would describe Washington as
rungame centric, play action, Jaden
Daniels explosive, versatile, physical
defense. The goal isn't to make Daniels
a 40 attempt a game quarterback. It's to
make the defense respect the run, get
Daniels operating from under center, the
motion play action stuff to create space
and then let his athleticism do what
needs to be done. So that that's
Washington. So the way that you would
maybe characterize this matchup with
Atlanta is Atlanta wants to win the game
with physicality and structure.
Washington wants to pretty much do the
same thing. And now it's about how Jaden
Daniels returns to that 2024 form that
we saw him light things up in his rookie
year. So I I I would say all of that and
if Atlanta can force Washington, this is
I think the important part. If Atlanta
can force Washington to consistently
execute long drives rather than giving
Daniels like the explosive plays off of
movement, scrambles, play action, if
they can contain him, I think this this
matchup can be favorable to the Atlanta
Falcons. But bottom line, Washington is
essentially trying to become a more
physical, more disciplined, healthier
team than even what they were in 2024.
And they're trying to prove that 2025
was an injury riddled fluke and that's
all it was. And that who they were in
2024 is who they're going to be for in
the now and also in the notsodistant
future. Atlanta is trying to build a new
physical stfansky era identity around
Bjon Robinson around some new gap style
stuff incorporated with some wide zone
stuff in Atlanta. Um, philosophically, I
think Washington and Atlanta are
actually a little bit closer than maybe
what you would think, but Washington
simply has this quarterback question of
Jaden Daniels and how he can return to
form. That's going to be the biggest
indicator of how much Washington takes a
step in the right direction. So, thank
you guys so much for sticking with me. I
know that was a lot. I know I threw a
lot of different stuff your [music] way,
but this is a very intriguing matchup
that I am pretty interested to see how
it ultimately plays out. So again, thank
you guys for joining us and we will see
you next time.