Atlanta Falcons players on Week 2 preparation vs Carolina Panthers | Press Conference

What's the challenge of entering a a league not knowing who you'll have at QB when it could be legitimately anybody you have in that room right now? >> Yeah, man. I mean, like you just said, a little bit of a challenge, but for us, like we just learn how to adapt, uh, like we've been saying, and you know, right now it it's something that you just go out to practice and you just got to work with with who you have out there, with what you have out there, and, you know, work to the best of your ability. But, you know, I know whether it's Coupe, Mike, like we we're not going to know till we go out there. Um, but for us, like as skilled players, we got to, you know, bring that energy to practice and we got to bring it uh with the right focus and the right mindset. So, whoever is back there playing quarterback, you know, they can trust they have trust in us and to know that we're going to do our jobs uh the right way for them. >> Throw your hat in the ring for that for that gig. >> Say it again. Say it again. >> On your hat in the ring for that gig. quarterback warming up that left. Maybe you can get >> I have not, man. I have not. Shoot, Drake better quarterback than me, but um No, I have not. >> Head heading into the game, did you kind of expect yourself to be getting, you know, a very heavy workload, obviously 29 carries, and and how do you feel that physically that went for you? >> Uh it was great. Um you know, obviously I didn't know. I just um just knew like whatever I had to do uh to to help the offense. um keep moving the ball, keep, you know, trying to put the ball in the end zone. Like that's what I had to do. But yeah, I didn't know like that was uh what I was going to get. You know, I think like like running backs or guys like um that are playmakers like really don't know what the touch count is going to look like, but all I know is that every time I had to try to touch that ball, like I had to, you know, do something with it and, you know, try to make a play happen every every opportunity that I had. >> Did you realize in the game like you were getting that? Was it was afterwards you looked at your stats like, "Oh my gosh." Sure. Was it like during the game like oh all right they're really coming to me? >> Yeah. It's more like for me how I think of it is like you I get in the groove so the more I do touch it like the more um especially like for the first game of the season you know as as the game was flowing um the game was starting to slow down especially like in that second half like it just slowed down for me uh because I I didn't play obviously preseason so like that first half is more me just trying to adjust and get used to the speed but you know in the second half um you know it started to slow down for me a lot and then I just started to to to get on to get on the roll, but I didn't really know like how how many touches that I had um at all >> realistically like do you think that that'll be a challenge to kind of keep that up long term? I mean, obviously you want to touch the ball all the time, but I mean like how how challenging or is it for you? >> Uh not it's not really a challenge. Um you know, I know what we're trying to you know, we have so many great playmakers on the offense. Um we have obviously Dre, Kyle, like those are the guys. Um, and then Oz, uh, Han, like we have so many so many guys that that could touch the ball. Um, but for me, like if it's it's whatever does whatever I can do to help the team, you know, win the game. Um, that's that's what I'll say. Say on that. >> Were they joking with you like get me the ball like share a little bit or were they having fun with you afterwards? >> No, no, they weren't. Um, but you know, I know that those guys want to have the ball in their hands like as much as possible. And you know, I know we're going to try to do whatever we can to put the ball in their hands, uh, so we can all, you know, benefit off of each other. So, you know, whatever the whatever our game plan is for that, like, you know, th those when they have the ball in their hands, like they're threats to everybody on the defense. So, you know, we're going to try to just continue to have that shared between all of us um, as much as we can. How does not knowing who the starting quarterback's going to be until like Thursday, Friday, maybe even later than that challenge you guys as an offense as you're trying to prepare for this game? >> Um, I mean, I think the challenge is like more the the playbook. Um, it could could not change, you know, we just never know. Uh, you know, and then on top of that, they're two different uh like one's a lefty, one's a right or two are lefties, one's a righty, uh, two are righties. So, it's like that that I guess could be the challenge for it. But other than that, you know, the the plays are going to be the plays and we we got to be the ones to bring it to life and execute at a high level. And really, whoever whoever's back there, like they they know what the play what the playbook is, they know what the plan is, and you know, it's it's their job to to execute it as well, just as much as it's ours um to do it for them. >> What does change when you go from like lefty to righty and vice versa? What has it changed? just the the way of the play, like the direction of the play. Um, yeah, you know, sometimes it's people think it's like the the spin on the ball, but it's it's really not. You know, you got to catch and tuck. You got to have great fundamentals when you catch football, but, you know, I think that's that's the only thing that kind of changes. >> It's not like you guys have an option right now. You do have to wait like everybody else to see who's the quarterback this Sunday. How can the rest of you guys around whoever it's going to be help that person out come Sunday? Yeah, I mean the the thing that I like about the guys on the offense, like from the O line to tight ends to, you know, backs, receivers, um, anybody who is back there, like we we enthuse that confidence in them in the huddle and just make sure that they're just calm, uh, collected, like that they got their stuff together. Um, cuz I know it is a challenge like maybe not knowing who, uh, is going to be there. So it could be a challenge on the quarterback's mental um as well. But for us like for whoever it whoever it is just to know that we're doing our job right and you know it puts more on us which I love because that's our job. Like we got to we got to do it for him. So you know I just I just want to make it as easy as I can for whoever is back there and I know all the other guys want to as well. What's the sense of urgency kind of like as our home week two opening up against the Panthers who are the reigning division champs? I mean it's it's a pretty big game. How are you guys kind of getting ready? >> Yeah, we're we're treating it as such. Like you know this is not only this the biggest game um because it's a division game, but it's it's our next game. So we have to treat it as as the biggest game. And you know I think we're all you know really amped up for it. But, you know, for us, like it's just starting today, starting on Wednesday in practice and and make sure that we're uh grasping the game plan and understanding it to a tea. Um because we know like, you know, the they're going to come in here high energy uh big division game like it's a must win for them, too. So, you know, we we have to come in prepared uh the right way and know that on on Sunday like we can't go in there uh tiptoeing or or pitter patter. to go in there physical, you know, just ready to go. >> So, how does your role like change with Cooper at quarterback? I noticed he was throwing like a lot of shorter passes and like do you feel like your workload increases like with him at quarterback or just in general? Um, you know, for me, like I just want to be available to the quarterback. You know, any any pass play, any play that he has stole the football, um, you know, I if he can't find if he can't see it downfield on a play or something like that, like I I I want to be in his vision. So, he knows that I'm right there or somewhere on the field um for him, but it if it's Cooper, if it's Mike to like it, it doesn't really matter who who it is. like I want to make sure that they just know um that they have me on as an outlet uh at all times on the field and you know if if they find it then that that's great but you know obviously I'm just there to to to help them out. >> What's one thing over the years that you've learned that like really like works for you in terms of like taking care of your body after a game and like getting ready for the next week? Yeah, I've been on a routine for uh two, three years uh since I've been here and and you know, God's covered my body and you know, I really am just thankful for him for doing that. Uh not missing games. Um and just how I take the routine and how serious I take the routine and I am super consistent on it. Um but yeah, like not missing games here has been has been really the true blessing. Um because just me being available for the team uh is something that I I really take pride in and you know I'm going continue to keep on you know taking care of my body how how I do it. >> So what's like something like a little something that you can share that you do like is it like eat something or you >> cool to like what do you kind of do that you're >> I think the hyperbaric machine or that I have at my house has been like really good for me. Um and then I've used a doc like that he does like a lot of like great body work. um for like a lot of the guys. Uh but he he's super super talented uh what he does and you know he's he's really been helping me and and a lot of the teammates out a lot. Um just just making sure we're ready to go for for the game. >> How these guys have these guys have handled you the last few times you played. How much has that linger for you guys? I know this is a different game plan, different team this year. >> Yeah. >> How much has that lingered knowing that Carolina's gotten after you guys last couple? Yeah, I mean it puts a a different motivation for us. Like we we know that last season they beat us twice. Um and for us like we have to take that into account. You know they're going to come in here hungry and you know they're going to want to try to you know come in here and try to beat us again. So for us like it all starts with our mentality and how we approach this game and we have to approach this game like it's a playoff game. Um and and you got to approach every game like that. But, you know, for for these guys, like they come in here and they, you know, they want to beat us in our home opener at home and we we got to know that that's what their plan is. So, we got to do everything we can in practice this week to to make sure that we, you know, go in there with the right mindset and and try to get a win. >> Did you watch last year's tape of the game here? >> Yeah. Yeah, I did. I did. It was >> 2110. You had like 100 yards rushing at halftime. >> Yeah, man. I know. And lost. It lost. That's That's what I remember. I remember that loss. So, you know, you can do all all the good stuff in the game. Um, but then when it comes down to it, like, yeah, we got to finish the game and it's going to be a four quarter fight. So, we understand that we have to go in there with with that mentality. >> Bean, not trying to get you to single anybody out, but how anxious are you to see Mike get back to work. >> Um, I mean, I know we're I know we're ready to see Mike. Um, you know, I know Mike's ready for himself. Like, forget what we think. Like, it's it's on it's him. like I know he's he wants to play football. Um but yeah, I mean I just pray for those guys every day, all three of the quarterbacks, but I know he wants to get out there and and play. Um because it's been a long time since he's been out there. >> Brian, what are some of the challenges in not knowing what quarterback is going to be starting on Sunday? >> Um I think the only challenge to that is um trying to develop the chemistry we need um during the week. You know, obviously we would love to have who's going to be in on Sunday in there early on in the week so that we can develop chemistry and just try to get a rhythm going. And um really that's the only difficulty >> when you look back at this last Sunday. What do you guys want to clean up on offense? >> Uh we definitely want to um just, you know, stay ahead of the sticks, stay efficient in the run game, and just eliminate all the um you know, penalties and stuff like that that was just setting us back. when you're diving up the quarterback reps between Cooper and Mike, talk about the balance of that and what it's like at practice having those two guys go out there. >> Uh it's a perfect balance, you know, honestly, you know, just making sure both of those guys, you know, uh getting a appropriate appropriate amount of reps that um keeps both of them ready. So, um we we're ready for either one of those guys, you know, if Cooper or Mike have to play, um you know, we just plug and play and know we're ready to, you know, take the field with either one of those guys. first game you played with Bejian Robinson. Thoughts on him? >> Uh, great. You know, uh, better than advertised, you know, um, you know, which, you know, I I expected him to be, you know, who he is and, um, you know, he he didn't show me nothing less than, you know, what I already knew. >> Cool. Anyone else? >> All right, Jack, first of all, what's the conversation been like with you between the coaches this week and kind of this ongoing kind of quarterback situation? Yeah, I mean the the deal has kind of just been like keep continuing to get better every week and that's kind of what they've been telling me like just keep you know focusing on like the 1% every day like trying to trying to get better out of practice whether it's in individual drills whether it's in any you know team period 7 out7 that I might get or whether it's in scout period so uh for me they just say you know just just keep keep getting better keep learning from from all the other guys watch what they're doing and watching on film and just keep yeah keep keep trying to do that. >> Did you get more reps today out there? Uh yeah, I got scout team reps today. Um because Mike and Cooper splitting the the team reps against the scout defense. >> What do you feel like you need to see like in order to feel like you're ready? So, are you ready to start? Like what are the coaches telling you? I guess >> um you know, they haven't really t they haven't really talked about that too much. I think uh you know, big thing for me has just been like trying to get as many reps as I can. if I'm not getting reps, I I just keep, you know, telling myself and kind of telling everybody I got to keep getting the mental reps and and watching what the other guys are doing because, you know, if you're the backup going into a game, you're not going to be getting a lot of reps um going into the week. And it was kind of like that, you know, in preseason going to the Indianapolis game. And uh during the week, the other guys were getting the reps in the the joint practices and then Coupe and I, you know, took the reps in the game. And so that's kind of how the life the life of a backup is. you know, you're not going to be getting a lot of live reps during the week, but you still got to be uh watching the film and like watching the other guys, getting the reps, doing the doing the metal reps in your head. So, if if the moment comes, you're ready to do it. >> Jack, what have you learned from watching the other guys? >> Um, I I' I've learned a ton from them. I think a big thing has been um like working with drop backs and with with their feet and stuff and like kind of just seeing, you know, how they get aligned to throws and like how they temple their drops based on certain throws. Another thing has been like uh watching their eyes on certain concepts. like we'll have concepts where you need to move a defender out of a window and then come back to it like so you can so you can throw the ball into that window or uh you know start with your eyes down the middle so you can see where the safety's going and then pick a side base on that. So, I think those are just a couple of the little nuancy things I've learned from the guys. And then obviously with like watching film and just learning, you know, a lot from them, you know, defensive wise, like defenses in the NFL, they play a lot different than defenses in college. And all those guys have been in the league for a long time. They've seen a lot of different stuff. So, um, they kind of like they have an idea based on, you know, what the front might be or where the linebackers are line, where the Dbacks are line, you know, what kind of coverage you might be getting or be getting pressure or something coming. So, just been trying to pick up as much as I can from them in that aspect. Aside from the mental reps, what's the most important part of your process right now? >> Um, I would say like after practice, just pulling a couple guys aside and and getting throws in because uh, you know, I I that's stuff that there's stuff that a lot of stuff I need to work on too, like with my feet, uh, with my technique and stuff and, you know, just being accurate, being on time with my throws. And so those guys, they've been like all all the rookie guys, the Firebirds class we call ourselves. Um, and they've, uh, they've made me a member of it now, too, after last week. Now this week, I've been practicing with them, which is cool. Um, but yeah, just like getting those guys, you know, we do the developmental period at the end of practice and then after if there's like a rep that we want to get again from scout team or from one-on- ones or something, then those guys are great about like running another route for me so I can throw to them or spotting up or something for me so I can throw some more balls. >> How'd you guys get that nickname? >> Uh, I'm not really sure. I think uh I think the coaches I think coins gave it to us actually. >> Why did you get voted back or allowed into it, I guess. Well, I think last week cuz uh like we we had a couple lifts and stuff towards the end of the week and I was preparing uh to be the backup for the game. So, I was they they wanted me to be more focused on that, I guess. >> That's awesome. Do you feel like when you know you're getting your reps, you know, there's two lefties, two righties. Do you notice the guys like having to adjust like in between reps or anything like that? >> You mean like the guys who are catching? Yeah. >> Um I mean there there definitely is a difference cuz you know the ball spins the opposite way. I think that's definitely the biggest thing. Um I've seen some things honestly like with with dropbacks and stuff from guys like I remember a clip from a few years ago. Um Lamar Jackson took a drop like a lefty. Uh so he he flipped his drop, took a drop like a lefty, moved the safety, you know, to the other to the other side and then was able to throw I think he threw a pass down the seam or something. So you know there is a difference definitely I think for the defense especially like a drop you know for lefty versus righty and like you know which side of the field you're throwing to and stuff like sometimes it can be easier you know for right to throw to the right because you can see it a little better. You don't have to you know you're not blocked by your shoulder looking to the left and vice versa for a lefty it's maybe a little easier for them to throw to the left. So, I think, you know, there's there's definitely some little uh nuancy things like that, but I think in terms of like a receiver catching the ball, the the spin of the ball is definitely the biggest thing. >> Jack Cooper's done this for a long time and he's been a backup in this league for a very long time. His preparation looks different than Mike's has in the past and from two certainly. What's the most valuable piece of advice that you've gotten from Cooper? Um, I think just the way that, you know, I was talking about the way that all the all the guys like talk about defenses and the way they look at defenses and Gooan, I think this is this is his 10th year in the league now. So, he's kind of he's kind of seen it all. He's been in a couple different schemes, you know, played for some different coaches, played for some different teams with um, you know, a lot of different players, seen a lot of different stuff. So, just hearing what like he's seeing on film kind of throughout the week and seeing what I can take from that. Like this week I was talking to him about certain stuff that we were, you know, seeing from the Panthers and like, you know, how we can predict different things based on that and um stuff that he was seeing on film that like I might I I, you know, haven't seen before. So stuff that I might not be able to pick up on. So I'm just trying to talk to him and figure out the way that he sees things, the way that he goes through a week watching film and, you know, try to take as much of that as I can. >> Um, just talk through some of the challenges of not knowing who's going to be starting a game heading into Sunday at quarterback. Um, I mean, for me, not necessarily a challenge. Just go out there and do my job to the best ability to help those guys out. Whatever's going on back there. Um, I got to try to make them right. That's part of my job. So, that's all my whole thought process about it all. And, um, just make sure I'm the best version of myself for this team. >> You have both Cooper and Mike taking reps with the first team. How important is it for both of those guys to get a balanced look ahead of Sunday? >> Uh, very important. I mean, um, again, just go out there and do my job and try to be that open target that I can be for them. Um, and just go pluck it out the air and and make plays. And I think that's the the the whole mantra in the wide receiver room right now is just go out there, do our jobs, try to help as much as we possibly can. >> Looking back on the game on Sunday, what's some things that you guys want to get better at? >> Uh, just clean up clean up football in general. Um, the flags, things like that. Um, and then taking advantage of of of bad football as well. Um, going down there and making making most of our ops. >> You've seen Mike grind from last November onward. To watch him, you know, out there and practicing with you guys, how much do you enjoy seeing him won and how did he practice in your eyes today? >> Uh, it's always good to see Mike out there. Um, obviously that's that's what he loves to do and that's slinging the pill. So, um, it was really really good to see that. Um, and it's cool to see him fight back that hard to get back for this team, you know. Um, and he's been looking great. >> How's it affect you, I guess, not knowing yet which quarterback it's going to be like game plan wise or anything like that? >> Uh, it doesn't really affect me too much. Again, I just got to go out there and do my job. >> Is it hard not to get frustrated with low target days though? >> I mean, you you can get frustrated all you want, right? But I'm more frustrated about the loss than anything else. I mean, I could care less about the targets. I in my opinion I I think we should have won that game if we if we capitalized on a lot of stuff. Um you know flags, things like that. ZB's um big almost house call that he had that would have set us up for to you know um be in the lead at that point. So just little things like that that we could clean up as a football team and um Coach Ski is doing an amazing job at that and uh today felt really really good. Another step in the right direction for us. you know better than a lot of people how competitive Mike is. Just >> playing football, off the field, all those things. He's a competitor. How would you describe his competitive nature? >> Um his competitive nature is is um it's I don't know the right word to to use for it, but I'll say it's silent because, you know, he's not going to talk too much. He's not going to go out there and and make a whole ordeal about himself and things like that, but when it's when it's time to go into the fire, like he going to be the first one to walk in there. Um, and that's what I love about him. Um, and two, he he just let lets it all hang out there and then just has fun and and rips the ball how how he knows to. >> Obviously, you want to win the next game, but this one is in the division against the Panthers, one that they have kind of gotten the best of you guys the past couple of years. So, what's the sense of urgency like just getting ready for this game? >> Uh, we just got to go win. that. >> Mhm. >> What's your Nate Ali nickname? >> What you say? >> What's so Nate Ali says he g says he gives everybody a nickname. What's yours? >> Uh bottom of the boot. >> Bottom of the boot. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Do you going to explain to me what that means? >> I'm from Louisiana. So, you know, they call Louisiana the boot. I'm from the bottom of Louisiana. >> There we go. For sure. For sure. >> How' Sunday go? >> Uh, you know, collectively as a group, you know, definitely not the outcome that we want. Um, you know, and that comes with just deliberate work in during the week and just being more deliberate about the little things. Um, you know, getting off of blocks defensively wise, getting off blocks. Um, dominating the line of scrimmage. Um, you know, just playing complimentary football. Um, and that's really what it boils down to, but um, not enough to get the win. >> You talked when you first got here about feeling like I think you said celebrated rather than tolerated. Has that continued and do you think that that's led to you sort of reaching more of your potential? >> Uh, you know, yeah. Um, I personally, you know, I think I'm the same. I've been the same person this whole time. Um, but yeah, I mean, it definitely helps to know that somebody got your back. Somebody, you know, wants to see you win. So, not to say that where I was, they didn't want to see me win or anything like that, but, you know, somebody really that really, you know, has their best foot forward for you and, you know, trying to put you in position to do what you got to do. Um, but yeah, I think I mean that definitely still sticks true, man. You're definitely ready to be celebrated for sure. >> What's the comfort level with Javon? Obviously, he just got here and y'all are kind of still learning each other. >> Um, you know, I've been knowing Dex for a little minute now. Um, we met at actually um at a Miami visit in high school. >> Oh, okay. >> Um, but you know, we never really formally >> um got to meet each other, you know, just kind of through passing. Um, my rookie year, we played them, you know, talked a little bit then, but um we've had similar coaches. my my coach, my rookie year was his coach the last two years. So, you know, obviously been seen some things about him. And, uh, bro, Dex's a great dude. Um, and when when it when the trade happened, um, you know, I always thought good things, you know, just because I have somebody to push me. Not that I didn't, but, you know, um, for me, competition is only going to bring the best out of everybody. Um, so I I feel like it was a great move and I love to have Dex here, >> another young guy. Obviously, he's not under contract next year, but the idea of building a group here of young sort of defensive tackles and maybe when those two edges get back, do you start thinking about that yet? >> Uh, I mean, not not really. Um, you know, I just try to take it one week at a time. Uh, and how coach said, you know, 17 sprints, not a marathon. So, you just got to uh, you know, you just got to put everything in the pieces and, you know, kind of just go down the way each game by each game. >> Mason, what do you enjoy about playing in this defense? Um really just being able to um just kind of go with my move and what I see fit is how it kind of goes. Uh you know in different in different schemes of defense um you might have to be you know the fit up player or um even just kind of holding up for the linebacker. So in this defense I can just go play ball um see ball get ball kind of thing. And I not necessarily that I can't be wrong but it's a lot it's a lot of things that I'll have to do to be wrong. So, um, really just being able to go out there and play attack and just get off the ball and wreak havoc and, you know, figure things out on the run. >> What's impressive about what Zidius was able to do? Limited s limited snaps out there and he gets two sacks in his first game back. >> I mean, you know, he's just a ball player, man. Uh, at the end of the day, coming off the couch, coming off anything, um, you know, to have two sacks in your first game back after not playing down there a full year last year, you know, >> that just speaks volume to who he is as a player. Um, and as a human being off the off the field, um, you know, just taking care of his body, being that being the older guy, um, and still being able to play at a high level, it just shows, you know, how serious he is about his craft and about getting better. >> I know you said you want to clean stuff up, more complimentary football, but when you watch the tape against Pittsburgh, what's something you liked? >> Um, defensively, you know, I I think that we held our own against them. Um, you know, a big thing for us coming into the week was, uh, just Aaron Rogers cadence, how he uses as a weapon and, uh, we didn't have any, to my knowledge, we didn't have any offsides or anything like that. So, you know, just the dialing in on the and being deliberate on the little things, just stuff like that and just, you know, being able to control somewhat control the line of scrimmage and the run game. Um, and, you know, just being a force on the front. >> In camp, it came up that you hadn't had a real offseason, you know, like training regimen at all. So here's one, how did you spend your off seasonasons in years past? And and two, how did you get kind of involved in one uh here? >> Um you know uh in my first two years my off seasonason, not to not necessarily to say that I didn't have a plan, but it just never was a dayby-day plan. Um and then coming into this off season, talking to one of my vets, uh Eric Armstead, uh we just kind of just came up with something that, you know, would be beneficial to me. um working with a certain trainer, um working with a certain agility coach. So really just having that um you know every single day, Monday through Friday. Um that really was the biggest difference. Um and yeah, that's I would say that. >> How much did it help you do you think? >> Uh you know, like I said at the beginning, I think I've been the same person. Um I think it's just for me just getting over the little things, getting strong, getting a little bit stronger in in certain areas. Um, and just staying on it, you know, not allowing myself to get big. Um, keeping my weight and and where it's supposed to be. Um, and just growing as growing my body as a whole. I'm 23 years old, so it's still, you know, got some growing to do. >> But, um, yeah, just being able to get everything down pack for sure. >> So, a lot of what you did, was it gym stuff? Was it pass rush stuff? Like, what were you doing maybe more that you hadn't in yours past? >> Gym stuff for sure. Um, really just static movements. So, I've always been explosive. Um, so really just, you know, the starting and stopping, uh, having strength through that. Um, just striking or, you know, just getting getting people off my chest, lower leg strength. Um, you know, coming off of ACL in college, I never really had a time to really grow my lower body back. So, really just being deliberate on lower body and everything like that. >> Was that here or like who did you train with? >> Uh, no. I trained in Dallas um with a strength coach by the name of Joey Burgles. >> How did you get kind of locked in with him? Uh, like I said, my uh one of my vets, Eric Armstead, Yeah. kind of u put me in that direction. Told me I needed to go work with him and that's ultimately what I did. >> Go back to what Maria was saying that he's going to have you guys over on Thursday. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> What what can that like just mean for you guys as a group? >> Uh really just fellowship, bro. Um you know, when when a lot of guys get not to say that it's just a rag tag team, but you know, when a lot of guys get brought from different places, you don't really know too much about somebody. Um, and I feel like, you know, once you know somebody why, you could really, you know, fight for them a different way, you know. Um, so really just learning each other, fellowship, getting to know each other, cuz like I said, ultimately that's going to help us on Sundays.