Aries Spears Threaten By Comedians Over Bernie Mac And Martin Statements!
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The video centers on a heated discussion regarding comedian Aries Spears and his controversial comments about late legends Bernie Mac and Martin Lawrence, which have sparked significant backlash from other comedians. The host acknowledges that while he is a fan of Aries Spears and respects his talent as evidenced by his sold-out shows, he fundamentally disagrees with Spears' specific opinions on the two deceased icons. The core conflict arises because Spears criticized their comedic styles and impersonated them during interviews, leading many to feel that he disrespected men who are no longer here to defend themselves. This situation highlights a broader tension in the comedy community between subjective personal taste and the perceived disrespect shown toward legendary figures whose eras defined generations of humor.
A key argument presented is the distinction between technical critique and personal offense, particularly focusing on the irony that Spears studied Bernie Mac's material so closely that he could perform an accurate impersonation while simultaneously claiming his comedy did not work for him. The host points out that if one studies a comedian enough to mimic their tone and delivery, it implies a deep appreciation of their craft, making the subsequent criticism seem contradictory or disingenuous. Furthermore, the discussion touches on the nature of *Mad TV* sketches from the 90s, noting that many were borderline buffoonery, yet Martin Lawrence's show stood out as an iconic achievement that few others could match at the time. The conversation also addresses how comedians like Kevin Hart and Dave Chappelle perform in various venues, suggesting that Aries Spears' ability to pack theaters validates his status regardless of the specific opinions he holds about his peers.
The dialogue concludes with a nuanced stance where the host clarifies that while he does not agree with Aries Spears' views, he understands the context of giving an opinion versus starting a fight, especially since the topic was brought up by the interviewer Tony Rock rather than initiated by Spears himself. The host emphasizes that comedians who have spent decades on stage possess a different perspective and authority when critiquing the industry compared to non-comedians or those less experienced. Ultimately, the video ends with a friendly but firm warning to Aries Spears that while they can debate respectfully over coffee, the host will not tolerate disrespect toward Bernie Mac or Martin Lawrence in person, leaving the door open for future interactions provided Spears does not cross the line of offending his friends and colleagues.
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>> Ary Spears is on for me.
>> Really?
>> I can't stand Ary Spears and I don't
know him. I never met him. How he comes
off every single time I hear this talk.
>> Yeah.
>> It's like, why am I listening to this
guy talk? I don't listen to him talk.
Mhm.
>> Reasons like this, Ary Spears can't tie
none of these shoes he talking about.
[sighs and gasps] Ary Spears from Mad
TV.
>> Yeah. And that's the even crazier part.
>> Yo, don't ever say Bernie Mack, Big Mac,
>> Crab Mac, Mac, None of that. You can't
just
>> Mac and cheese.
That's like when I spazzed out on for
saying that J.
>> Wow. Wow. Guys, make sure you like,
subscribe to the channel. People are
upset with Ary Spears, man, for saying
what he said about Bernie Mack and aka
Martin Lawrence.
Also Martin Lawrence. Um, uh, Dre from
around the way. I got him in the
building, man. Dreary Spears is very
opinionated. um ever since you know I
can remember he's always did these
tonality things man and um first of all
welcome to the show what's going on well
first of all two things thanks for
having me on and number two Aries before
I start talking he really want me to say
this this not just [laughter] it's not
just me talking Aries this e opinion too
>> no I'm I'm going be honest with you I'm
a big Aries Spears fan man I'm not like
Joe Button uh I'm not I'm I'm not going.
I met him uh a dope guy in his own way.
He got his own thing, you know. Um I
can't say he's not talented as you guys
a lot of guys allude to. I've listened
at his uh standup. I've seen him uh
actually um on Mad TV when he was doing
it. And um do I agree with what he said
about those those uh patriarchs that he
spoke on, those legendary comedians? No.
But I can't just downplay who he is
because of what he said. I seen him and
I respect what he is and who he is when
it comes down to that. But he said a lot
of things that I didn't agree with, but
it didn't negate his talent and the fact
that he he packed out shows. And anybody
that has been to his show know that,
including Vlad.
>> I mean, just cuz he sold out
Chuck-E-Cheese don't mean he packed out
shows. But here's the thing, right?
>> It wasn't Chuck-E-Cheese, man. Stop it.
You you shot. He He improbs everywhere
just like all the rest of them. You have
uh Eddie Griffin. You've had uh Dave
Chappelle does them. Uh everybody does
the uh these uh these places where you
packing these shows out. And I've seen
some guys that couldn't pack them out
and Ary Spears did pack them out. So I I
don't even want to say who didn't or who
did, but I'm just saying we don't want
to we don't want to play like he's not
who he is, man. him and uh I think it's
uh Steinberg or whatever that guy is
that's with him. A cool cat. But at any
rate, I just I just heard what Joe
Button was saying and I was like, whoa.
You know, like like I get it. The guy
definitely um wrong for what he said
about Bernie Mack or what he said about
Martin to me, but um doesn't take away
from his talent. You get it?
>> I listen, I don't take away nothing from
the man can do impersonations. Um,
absolutely.
>> My only problem with what Listen, two
things could be right at the same time.
>> One, he's entitled to his opinion.
Right. Right.
>> But two, but two, let's be honest, he
was also asked a question by Tony Rob.
Right. So, it wasn't like he brought up
the topic himself.
>> Correct. It wasn't like he just went,
>> "Yeah, but he he grabbed some people
that he I just felt like he shouldn't
have grabbed." You know,
>> once again, you feel that way. But if he
feels that way as a comedian, we you
know what I'm saying? Now listen, do
would I pay to listen for Ary Spears?
No. You couldn't give me a bootleg of
Ary Spears. But the bottom line is
listen, they asked him his opinion. Now
we I think if you took a consensus,
Bernie Mack is funnier than Ary Spears.
If you took a consensus,
>> of course, I would I would agree with
that.
No one will take no one can take away
what Martin Lawrence was in the early
90s from Death Comedy Jam to his own
show to even a thin line between love
and hate. Right. Right.
>> We understood Martin is an icon. He's on
the Rushmore.
>> Right. Um I didn't understand
Ary Spears going at Bernie and then
impersonating Bernie while he's going at
Bernie. That means you study Bernie,
right? So you claim his comedy didn't do
it for you, but you had to cage down to
a point. Right. So you did all of that.
That means you studied Bernie.
>> Well, I don't know if he studied uh uh
Bernie or he no or Robin Robin Harris.
Uh
Baby's kids.
>> They kind of
>> they had the same kind of they had the
the same kind of uh
>> you know what I mean? Um they got the
same kind of uh they got the same kind
of tone. I always said that he had that
same tone as Robin Harris, you know what
I mean? So studying if he studied Robin
Harris, if he studied Bernie had the
same kind of tone to me. That's just my
opinion. That's subjective, but they
sounded alike.
>> Now, here's a question to you then. If
that's the case, then why didn't he
throw Robin Harris in there, too?
>> Man, Robin Harris was was way way goish,
way before his time. So, I don't know. I
don't know.
in Hollywood around the same time, bro.
Eric Spears was in Hollywood at the age
of like 16. So Robin Harrison was still
alive,
>> but Robin Harrison and and Bernie was
different too though. They they said I
think Robin sounded like him. But yeah,
>> exactly my point.
>> I mean, not Robin, but Bernie Me sounded
like him.
>> He studied Bernie. And you do that. Now,
here's the thing. You can't say there
were episodes on Martin that was
borderline buffoonery when you yourself
played on Mad TV when 90% of the skits
on Mad TV was borderline buffoon. That's
just a fact.
Just a fact. If you look at if you go
and backtrack some of the characters Ary
Spears played on Mad TV, it was buffery.
So to me, as I always say on your show,
they're algorithm chasing. They're clout
chasing. Now, he didn't ask himself the
question, but he gave you the answer for
me and you to be talking about this
right now. And that's just the truth.
>> He's good at it. And and and and I tried
to tell y'all that when when Vlad got
rid of him, you know, that was some
captivating moments on Vlad when he
said, "I'm an awesome star, but sometime
I act bizarre." You know, you do you
don't. He he had this certain energy
when he was on Vlad TV that he he was
doing his thing on Vlad TV. He said
things about different people from shoot
all kind of people. Same way he doing
now. He's just finding a way to do it in
different uh uh on different podcasts
and and his own and and I I you know
like I said I I'm I'm definitely u not a
guy who agrees with Harry Spears. When
he comes on my show we argue like hell
or talk crazy. We really just talk
debate. It's not an argument. I debate
with him. Yeah. I debate with him. I I
debate. Shout out to Will's Mills.
Whoever you can get it if you come over
there, you know, talking down, you know,
uh and at the end of the day or we and
we still can have some tea and drink
some uh drink some coffee or or whatever
and and still be cool after that. I I
don't have no problem with these guys
and their opinions, man. Uh I I think a
man can give his opinion. I think a man
can give his opinion, but you got to be
willing to deal with the backlash.
Henceforth, this right here.
>> He a super duper ho ass [ __ ] And
Aries, I promise you, I'm not trying to
start [ __ ] but if you was standing in
front of me, I talk just like this. That
[ __ ] you said, you wouldn't say that in
front of Bernie.
>> People are mad about this Bernie Mack
thing, man. I was mad about the Martin
thing, too.
>> I was, too.
>> I wasn't really just I ain't saying mad,
but I don't agree with him. It ain't
that I'm mad because if I see him, we
gonna chop it up and we g, you know, we
gonna get down. But definitely gonna
tell him. That's what I don't like about
people can get on the internet, but if
you going to tell him like like uh Cory
Hok just said, I tell him if I see him,
you know, and I believe Cory would tell
him cuz, you know, after all that
happened over this spot, he feel like he
can tell him, you know. Um, now, you
know, the other guy that came over
there, it was a little bit different,
you know what I mean? a few people, you
know, but it's been a little different
on certain ones. But, uh, Cory's, you
know, he's trying to stand his ground on
this certain thing that he say when it
come down to these people. And, um, I
get it, you know, but, you know, of
course, Aries, everybody talking down
and talking to him crazy because he said
what he said. A lot of people love
Bernie Mack. A lot of people love
Martin. Bernie Mack's not here to defend
themselves. Therefore, the people who
love Bernie is going to defend Bernie
cuz they feel like, "Okay, I got to
defend Bernie because Bernie not here to
say nothing back." You talking about
somebody that's passed on. And that's
the climate we in. People will say
whatever for views, likes, and sound
bites just to get, like you said, uh,
you know, get those things to happen.
You start digging people up out the dead
talking about their character and they
not even here to defend themselves. you
know, I don't hear him talking about
Rodney Dangerfield that he wasn't wasn't
all that. I don't hear him talking about
it's a few more uh these other guys. So,
um you know, I just say, man, you know,
Bernie Mack, I've heard a lot of people
say a lot of things about O Bernie. You
know, again, he's not the first person
I've heard say that uh Bernie Mack has
stock jokes. If you think if you go back
and watch Kdub on my show, Kdub, the
comedian Kdub said Bernie Mack was uh he
had stock jokes. He didn't have his own,
you know, these jokes were jokes he
can't he got from somewhere else, but he
just was hell. He did say he was funny.
He didn't say he wasn't funny, but he
just said far as top whatever. He wasn't
putting him on that list because of this
or that. So these are things that I've
heard. I Aries is not the first person
to say that. Aries got that from Kdub if
you want to just be real. That's why
they that Kdub had spoke on this but it
was more in a a technical way. It wasn't
in a degrading way. So when it came off
like I told Aries when he came over when
you look at that camera and you say this
stuff and you put this type of passion
and tonality behind it, you're going to
get these type of results cuz it comes
off flagrant.
And that's why I think he gets the the
the backlash he gets. if he was more
technical with it. And uh because what
he done and I had it and I don't think I
have it on here. I might, but what he
done was he came back on at a later time
and said something totally different.
And I I want to see if this is Let me
make sure. Here we go.
>> What up? It's your boy Ary Spears here.
Hey, listen, man. the video of the
footage of me on on uh Tony Rock's
podcast where I gave my opinion about
Bernie Mack's comedy. I gave my opinion
about the Martin Lawrence show when
Martin was on. I never disrespected
Bernie in my assessment of his comedy. I
never disrespected Martin the man in my
assessment of the show. And on many
interviews, I've said that Martin
Lawrence in movies is phenomenal. and
Bad Boys. I know Will is also the star,
but Martin steals the [ __ ] show.
Martin to me in movies.
Chef's kiss. I just wasn't a fan of the
show. Bernie Mack, genius. I acknowledge
that. I just wasn't a fan of his
particular style of comedy. Holy
[ __ ]
And I mean, all you sensitive ass [ __ ]
is just everything is a disc. Everything
is disrespect. Everything is hate. on
when I had [laughter] Tony Rock on my
podcast recently, the clip that I just
posted where he talked about his [ __ ]
dial joke and I ended by doing the Paul
Mooney impression when I said I kept my
[ __ ] dial to 10, which is why my
career was at one. OH NOW PAUL MOONEY
DONE CAUGHT A STRAIGHT. YOU [ __ ] ARE
SO [ __ ] SENSITIVE. Are you serious?
THAT'S SOMETHING PAUL MOONEY WOULD say
and it's quite factual because let's be
honest, his career wasn't what it should
have been because he was so power to the
people. Stop thising moisture, you
sensitive.
>> So I I hear him. You know what I'm
saying? Like
he's definitely saying, "I said what I
said, but there was a reason behind what
I said." And and he's standing on it,
but I wish he'd have said that more when
he was over at the Tony Rock show. That
way people wouldn't have t you know if
he'd have gave the and I might have
missed it. Did he give the one up on I
like more and more in movies. If he said
that then he's giving you the real.
That's the way he feel about like you
said earlier Dre. But also uh the Bernie
Mack thing you know like I said I don't
agree with him. I know already Martin
was cold. Ain't nobody did shows in the
90 that even touch Martin's show.
Period. to me in the 90s you he he took
it was was Bill Cosby was in the that
was the 80s wasn't it
>> yeah Cosby Cosby's was late 80s through
the early 90s
>> early 90s but when Martin took the
handle and took the ham he took it there
>> and you got to give him that you can't
take that from him and and and you not
might not have liked it but you going to
have to respect it because the people
the numbers show you know that that he
was killing the game his reruns run
right now his streams right now is doing
Good. I bet you his residual is a lot
better than Mad TV's being. Believe it.
>> So, so you can't you can't really just
you can't you really can't put it you
can't put it out there like that, man.
And Bernie Mack Bernie Max's not again
not here to defend themselves. So, Dre,
I'm I'm just being real. I'll give you
one last thing and what what would you
end on?
>> My my thing is this. Uh I'm going let me
just respond to Kdub. Look, so if you
look, technical analysis is technical
analysis of comedy. There's so many
different forms of comedy, slapstick,
all these other things, right? Right.
>> Comedy. You know, Kevin Hart is
considered a physical comedian falling
all over the stage, blah blah blah.
>> The thing is is that look,
>> if you're going to give a critique, I my
thing which made it disingenuous is the
fact that you imitated Bernie. So that
shows that there's some type of
>> So you're not talking about Kdub. You
talk you talking about
>> listen I'm refle what I'm saying when I
said technical now that's why I'm I'm
replying to Kdub meaning the technical
side of it. So if Kub says Bernie has
stock jokes. So you're basically saying
he carries pretty much his routine city
to city to city and some of it is
borrowed some of it is reinterpolated. I
get that. That's technical analysis.
>> Correct.
>> You understand where I'm coming from?
Correct.
>> Now, what you what Aries did
>> is you just gave a somewhat of your
subjective opinion without kind of
giving the reason why you say Bernie
comedy just didn't do it for you, but
you say it didn't do it for you, but you
imitated him to the tea. So, that shows
imitation is what the biggest form of
flattery.
>> Right.
>> Correct.
>> Right.
>> That's my point. and I land.
>> Wow. Like I said, man, these guys, man,
they really studied the game. Um, Kada
really studies the game. Aries really
studied the game. Cory Hok really
studies the game. I know because they
did this stuff forever now. Joe Button,
that's that's just different. You know,
Joe Button uh he's like me.
>> That was personal.
>> No, he's like me. Like like he's just
sitting over here doing a podcast and he
has an opinion and he's not a comedian.
So we won't understand it the way a Kdub
or the way a Corey Hokum or the way a
Aries or the way a Kevin Hart or though
Gary Owen these guys man uh uh Carlos
Miller Jesse McDonald these guys are on
that stage. Uh Faison Love, they on that
stage every night.
Every night. So they have a different
way that they interpret a different way
that they look at these jokes. And um
that's why I respect what they say and
I'll comment or come back and say
something about it. Me and Joe Button
kind of on the same time. That's all.
But at the end of the day, I I just know
my opinion only goes so far because I
don't I haven't stood on that stage
night after night and did what these
guys do. And this guy Aries is is it
hits different when you've been standing
on them stages since you was a a youth,
a 14, 15, 16 year old comedian. Same
thing with Corey Hok. Same thing uh
hence um uh these guys who come out and
say what they say, give their strong
opinion on these things. You know, I get
it. I got Kub same thing. You go back,
look, these boys, Death Comedy Jam, all
this different stuff. These boys been in
the same room forever. They was on the
stage during the time uh Bernie Mack was
here. They was on the stage during the
time uh uh Martin was doing uh Death
Comedy Jam. So these guys opinion is
real and these guys opinion can be
technical and that's why I believe Aries
came back and said what he said. He
knows already what what what it's doing
and now he's just pretty much uh
articulating and formulating it and and
carving it out the way he want it to
land. This is the internet guys. These
people are giving their opinions. You
could say one thing on a on a podcast
and it can blow up or you could or you
could you could say some things that are
technical and it can blow up in a
negative way or a positive way. That's
what I'll say, guys. And guys, listen,
man. I like I said, I'm a big fan of all
these comedian guys. They all give a
hell of a show. I've been to these
shows. I watch them. I respect them. I
interview them. And at the end of the
day, you know, they some real ones. We
come from different backgrounds, but
then we come from a lot of the same
thing, too. We all stood on ten toes
when it come down to certain things.
They have their way of doing things. I
have mine, but I am just giving you my
opinion. Shout out to these guys, man.
But I still don't agree with you, Aries.
And I'm going to tell you that when I
see you, and you know that. So, I don't
agree with none of this stuff that you
doing. I can't wait to see you when I do
when I You better not have no show. I
think you come to San Antonio. I might
come up there if I got a free weekend.
But I'm telling you, if I do pull up,
I'm telling you. Hey, man. Look man,
come on man. You was out here bad. Same
thing you did on Mississippi when I told
you there certain things I'm not going
for. Especially not no down south slam.
You know how we are about that. So at
the end of the day it's going down.
>> Let me just say this. If you if he do
perform in Texas, don't worry about it.
San Antonio, Houston, or Dallas, seats
will be available. So go
>> Oh, whatever. You can't say that, man.
I'm telling you, he he he he actually
have a uh his demographic is that Mad
TV. a lot of a lot of uh people that
don't look like me. I'll just say it in
that way. He have a different different
type of people, huh?
>> Yeah. Yeah. From wrong.
>> Whatever. Guys, make sure you like,
subscribe to the channel, man. And guys,
if you're still watching, man, uh
listen, man, we've been we've been
chopping it up about a lot of different
things. Um let me see what what what
what we going you know, this week is is
crazy. Y'all got to go watch that zero.
I've been putting clips out and it's
going down, man. Uh, that Little Durk's
trial should be somewhere right here.
Little Dirk. Um,
yeah. Yeah. About them protesters. And I
think we're going to hear the verdict
today. Let me know what you guys think.
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