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The video discusses the importance of maintaining open discourse online while warning against communication practices that hinder reason and unity, specifically focusing on the ad hominem fallacy. Although criticizing opposing viewpoints is a necessary part of refining knowledge and expressing human beliefs, the speaker argues that many online debates deviate from ideal standards by attacking individuals rather than their arguments. The core issue with an ad hominem argument is that it shifts the focus from the validity of a claim to the characteristics of the person making it, ranging from polite accusations of stupidity to ridiculous insults about physical appearance or personal feelings. Regardless of how plausible these criticisms might seem on the surface, they fail to address the actual reasoning behind a conclusion and do not help determine whether an argument is sound.
The speaker explains that dismissing an argument based on the perceived intelligence or character flaws of its presenter prevents us from identifying genuine errors in logic. An argument can fail for specific reasons unrelated to who is speaking, such as false premises, incomplete evidence, or flawed logical structures like formal fallacies in deductive reasoning or insufficient data in inductive reasoning. Even if a person is genuinely biased, close-minded, or culturally entrenched, pointing out these psychological states does not automatically invalidate their conclusion; it merely highlights a potential obstacle without showing exactly where the error lies. For instance, someone might have a bias yet still present an argument with true premises and correct logical form, meaning that simply labeling them as biased tells us nothing about the actual validity of their specific claim.
Furthermore, the transcript addresses common political rhetoric where groups label opponents with derogatory terms like "libtards" or "Nazi conservatives," noting that such attacks are classic examples of ad hominem reasoning. The speaker clarifies that even if a criticism regarding a person's character is factually accurate, it remains an ad hominem fallacy because it does not engage with the substance of the argument being debated. True rational discourse requires focusing on whether the evidence supports the conclusion and whether the logical structure holds up, rather than disapproving of the individual's personality or background. By avoiding name-calling and psychological attacks, participants can ensure that their critiques are based on reason and actually contribute to a deeper understanding of the issues at hand.
In conclusion, the video urges viewers to recognize that attacking a person, whether through insults, accusations of bias, or claims of ignorance, is not a valid method for refuting an argument. To engage in proper reasoning, one must specifically identify false premises, insufficient evidence, or structural flaws within the argument itself. The speaker emphasizes that while everyone has biases and imperfections, these traits do not inherently make a conclusion wrong, and relying on them to dismiss ideas stifles open discourse. Ultimately, the goal of debate should be to improve our collective knowledge and humanity by addressing arguments directly, ensuring that we remain civil and focused on truth rather than simply expressing disapproval of who we are arguing against.
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It's become very fashionable these days
to have uh debates,
arguments,
castigations online, one group
criticizing another. And okay, fine. You
know, there's nothing inherently wrong
about one group criticizing another or
one
um you know, position, right? One sort
of argument crit or one viewpoint,
right? criticizing another viewpoint
that that's fine. We need this open
discourse in order to continually refine
our uh knowledge. Even more importantly,
just how to be human, right? We need to
be able to express ourselves and our
beliefs in order to maintain our
humanity. And we become increasingly
less human and less humane when we at
once, you know, either restrict somebody
else from being able to speak or uh
restrict ourselves.
Okay. And that's fine, right? I'm not
saying we need to discontinue this sort
of uh discussion online. In fact,
there's a lot of useful things about
having it online. Is available to a wide
variety of people that would never get a
chance to hear each other. All
right. Having said
that, I've noticed a number of practices
that are not good, right? That are not
the use of reason and frankly just tend
to divide us more. I mean, the the
thought is the supposition is that if we
express ourselves to each other, then
we're going to have greater
understanding of each other and we could
have greater civility and and grow as an
individual, as a culture, and as a
species. And yes, that that's wonderful.
That's the
ideal. But how we've actually been
carrying that out is less than
ideal. We are not using good standards
of communication or reason.
So, one thing in particular um I want to
talk about is the ad hominemum argument.
And the ad hominemum
argument is one something that happens a
lot
online and is not
useful. So, probably need a brief at
least a brief explanation of ad
hominemum argument. You've probably
heard the phrase the ad homonym argument
before. uh you've yeah you I'm sure
you've you know either people just
talking about it especially if you heard
it online there's a number of people
online who are talking about various
arguments and they'll mention the ad
hominemum argument as a fallacy
uh and yeah maybe heard it in a logic
course an English course speech and a
variety of courses where uh reason is at
least supposed to be at the forefront or
one of the most important considerations
of of that discipline. So an ad hom
argument you know literally translated
as you know argumentum ad homum argument
against the the man argument against the
person. Now what the essence of this is
is that you're criticizing the argument
by criticizing the person. Yeah.
Criticizing the argument by criticizing
the person. And these criticisms range
from ridiculous to even somewhat
plausible.
So, I don't know.
Uh, an example would be something like,
um, I I your conclusion's all wrong
because,
uh, you know, you can't
think like,
okay. Uh, your conclusion is all wrong
because you are incapable of reasoning.
All right. Now, there there's more or
less polite versions of this sort of
thing. I I just gave us probably a more
polite version. The impolite version
would be something like you can't your
conclusion is false because you're an
idiot or because you're
dumb. All right. Now, on on its surface,
it seems plausible, right? The idea
being that if the person presenting the
argument is not intelligent, that they
haven't used enough intelligence to
reach the conclusion. All right. Sure.
That's a degree of
plausibility. Um, there also range from
like highly
implausible, ridiculous versions of
this, right? Your conclusion is all
wrong because your nose is too
big. Not a real one, right? Or uh your
conclusion is all wrong because uh
uh I hate you. It's really what a lot of
these ad hom arguments amount to is
conclusions all wrong because I hate
you.
Um or uh uh your conclusion is all wrong
because uh you know you only care about
yourself. All right. So there's a
variety of ways to criticize the person.
Some of these are plausible sort of
right. We're talking about intelligence.
Sure. Somebody's not that intelligent.
That that loses credibility for the
conclusion. Um some are just absolutely
stupid. You know, your eyes are the
wrong color. You're stupid. Uh, I hate
you. Your nose is too big. You've got
the wrong clothes on. What are those? Or
something like that. These are all
criticis criticisms of the
person. But, and you know, I don't care
whether how plausible the ad hominemum
is. None of this is useful for reason.
None of this is useful for determining
what is wrong with the reasoning. When
you use at home and you're criticizing
the
person, not the argument.
Well, at this point you might ask me or
ask yourself, well, if there are
plausible versions of the argument ad
homonym, the ad hominemum argument, um,
why is it a problem, right? Let's just
use the plausible versions of the
argument ad homonym instead of the
implausible ones. Let's forget about
people's big noses and instead pay
attention to the fact that they're
idiots.
Okay.
Well, I mean, I I get the plausibility.
The minute that I think, and sure, I'm
guilty of this, too. I'm I wager not
many people aren't guilty of this. But
the second I reach the conclusion that
the person I'm talking to doesn't know
what they're talking about, uh or is uh
you know, angry, emotional, or uh I
don't know,
um you know, just plain small-minded.
And it happens. Sure. I talk to somebody
like, "Yeah, this is not going to be a
fruitful
conversation." Yeah, I I I get the the
intuitive appeal against immediately
dismissing whatever that person has to
say. Well, the thing is if you do
that, if you dismiss what somebody says
because you don't like the person or you
think they have some kind of character
failing,
um you never figure out what's wrong
with the
argument. you know, if he just is simply
attacking the person who's offering the
argument, we never figure out what's
wrong with the argument. And there's a
number a short number of ways that an
argument could go wrong that's really
relevant to whether that conclusion is
wellounded. Um, so for example, the
evidence or purported evidence or the
claims are supposed to justify the
conclusion, right? Uh the evidence if
we're dealing with deductive logic,
right? One of the pieces of evidence
offered could be false. Now, if you're
just sitting there calling somebody
stupid, you never tell me or never
figure out which premise is
false or if you're dealing with
inductive arguments, same thing. Like
maybe a purported piece of evidence is
in fact false. But that that's not the
really pernicious part with inductive
arguments. And one of the seductive
things about inductive arguments is all
the premises can be true. Like two
different people offering two different
inductive arguments could be offering
evidence and they're speaking truth
through life. each offering ind you know
evidence that they have seen and is
true. Uh but they may not have enough
evidence, right? So the really big
problem with inductive arguments is
what's called the fallacy of incomplete
evidence. You haven't collected enough
evidence. Uh so one really small way I
know something like well I weighed
myself today and uh my weight was within
the prescribed norm for my you know for
for you know my kind of persons know my
gender my age activity levels the the
weight was within range therefore I'm
healthy
no I mean weight's important but weight
is not the only thing that's relevant
for health and that's all inductive
arguments there's there's blood pressure
there's um uh uh pulse rate, there's the
blood sugar levels, there's the how well
your body absorbs oxygen, how well it
absorbs nutrients. There's a long list
of what's involved in whether somebody's
healthy. So, if you got two people,
somebody says, "Well, my my weight is is
within range. I'm 180 pounds. I've been
180 pounds for a while. I've been 180
pounds. Therefore, I'm healthy." And
somebody else says, "Well, okay, but
your blood sugar is way high."
you know, you got to, you know, your
blood sugar is 150. I'm just pulling
number out of here. I don't really know.
Your blood sugar is 150. Both those
claims can be true. And and by the way,
that's still incomplete evidence, right?
There's still a lot more to consider.
Okay? I'm not going to go on this too
much. Don't want to get into a long
discussion what makes a good inductive
argument. Maybe another video. But you
if all you're doing is attacking the
person, criticizing the person, even if
they aren't dumb, that still doesn't
tell me which piece of evidence is
either false or whether there's
enough. So far, all you're doing is
calling somebody
names. That's not
reason. That's kindergarten.
So the other way that an argument can go
wrong, yeah, supposing there's nothing
wrong with the evidence. Suppose the
evidence is just fine in the sense that
uh the evidence is either true. All the
it's actually true and let's even
suppose it's
complete. Uh the other way an argument
can go wrong is that the structure or
the form of the argument goes wrong. All
right, so there again there's a wide
variety of ways this could happen. And
with deductive logic, it's it's easier
to start listing the ways that an
argument could go wrong. You can affirm
the consequ you can affirm the
consequent. You can deny the antecedent.
You can affirm a disjunct. Whole long
ways that these are all formal
fallacies, right? And again, if you've
taken a logic course, you're probably
familiar with at least a few of
these. Uh but if you're critic with
inductive arguments, excuse me, with
inductive arguments, you could still
have all relevant evidence and maybe
even complete evidence, but you're using
the wrong sort of argument with that
evidence. So if you're dealing with an
if you if you're offering evidence
that's good for an analogy that's not
necessarily going to be good for, you
know, a survey or statistical
probability. If you are conducting if
you've got a lot of good evidence for
uh logical possibility, right? So, if
I've got a coin, I flip it twice in a
row, chance it comes with heads 50/50.
Uh, that's great, but that's not really
good for plausibility. And plausibility
is a kind of evidence, but I don't want
to go again, different video. Maybe I'll
go into that in a different video. So,
suppose you have all the right evidence,
but you're not using a good form of
inductive argument for that evidence.
Well, then yeah, the conclusion can be
unsupported by that evidence.
And again, if you're calling somebody an
idiot, if you're saying that they're
dumb, and let's say they are, suppose
the person you're talking to, never had
anything above a first grade education
and um you know, stuck their nose in u
social media all the time, and never
bothered to look up from their iPhone or
their iPad. Yeah, that that that person
does not have great skills and and
reason. Suppose that person's an idiot.
That still doesn't tell us what's wrong
with the
argument. It could have a bad form, but
simply calling somebody an idiot doesn't
tell us what's where the error in the
form
is. So really,
again, using an ad
homonym doesn't tell us what's wrong
with the argument, and most it tells us
what you disapprove of with the person
you're talking with.
Well, maybe by now you're saying, "Okay,
you're you haven't told me anything I
don't know. I've heard about an homonyms
before. Uh, I know fully well that
calling somebody a dummy doesn't mean
their conclusion is false or faulty or
something like that."
Okay, sure. But I'm not sure you're
aware of all the ways that you can
commit an ad homonym.
If you are paying attention to anything
besides the evidence and the argument,
you're not dealing with reason. If
you're paying if you're criticizing the
person, if you're saying something that
that is bad about the person, you're
using an ad homo. You're not paying
attention to the argument that way,
right? And you know, one of the ways
that I see this happening, and I am not
taking sides here on the political
spectrum, but you have conservatives are
saying, "Oh, those stupid libtards."
Or you
have, you know, Democrats and liberals
saying, "Oh, all those Nazi
conservatives. That's criticizing the
person." Now, I want to be clear about
something. I am not saying we should
start listening to one group or the
other because it's that group or and I'm
not saying that we can start listening
to uh I don't
know. I'm not saying we seriously start,
you know, checking out isuh issues of
mine comp in order to figure out good.
I'm not saying that at all. All I'm
saying is that if you are criticizing
the person, you're not criticizing the
argument. Even if your criticisms of the
person are completely legitimate, like,
okay, fine. All right. Say that person's
bad. They got some serious failing in
terms of their
character. You still haven't told me
what's wrong with the argument. You just
told me what's wrong with that
person. At least you know what you don't
like about the person. Maybe maybe
there's something wrong with them too,
but what you don't like about the
person. You need more than
that. Telling me what's wrong with the
person doesn't tell me what's wrong with
the
argument. So
yeah, if you're going to criticize the
argument, criticize the argument. Don't
criticize the person. If you start
calling somebody names, even if the
names are completely legitimate, that's
still an ad homonym and that's still not
using
reason. So like I
said, criticizing the person at homminum
arguments are not the proper use of
reason. They don't tell us what's wrong
with the evidence or even the form of
the argument.
Now, I uh I don't know if this I don't
know if this is necessarily a version of
the ad homonym, but it it's got a
similar sort of problem uh is what I
call criticizing the psychological
states. You might say, well, what's
that? That just seems weird. Well, we do
it all the time. Uh one of the most
common ways that we're criticiz
psychological states is we say somebody
has a bias. All right? And you know,
having a bias is not a good thing. It's
not
and whether you don't have one is
another question. I'm pretty sure
everybody's got biases, but let's leave
that alone for a second. Uh, you know,
if you have a bias and you're trying to
offer some sort of argument. Yeah, the
pro might be a problem there.
Sure. Going to accept it. By the way,
it's possible to have a bias towards the
truth. Whatever the truth
is. Sure, that happens. People have this
inclination to believe maybe one sort of
position over another and they can't
escape it. Yeah, that'd be a bias.
They're not willing to listen to
evidence for any other contrary
position. That's a bias. It absolutely
is. Doesn't mean their conclusion is
faulty. Doesn't even mean their
reasoning is
faulty. Not because they could have a
bias towards all the right evidence and
the right form of the argument.
you know, saying that somebody has a
bias, I mean, it's not a great thing
that somebody has a bias, and you know,
it's not a a mark in favor of them
properly using reason, but if you just
simply claim that somebody has a bias,
you still have not shown me where
there's an error in reason. You still
haven't shown me whether one of the
premises are false or whether the form
of the argument is in bad
shape or whether it's you got incomplete
evidence, right?
appealing, you know, saying that
somebody has a bias
explains where they made an
error, not that. Oh, sorry, excuse me.
Saying that somebody has a bias might
explain that somebody has an error, but
it doesn't explain where the error is.
And if you can't tell me where the error
is, simply pointing out a bias doesn't
do it. That is not a reason in and of
itself to reject a
conclusion. If uh what someone's
close-minded, which is guess another way
of saying bias, yeah, sure, that limits
the evidence that they have, but that
doesn't mean they reached a false
conclusion or that there's something
wrong with their
argument, right? That um what somebody's
raised uh in a culture that can't see
beyond its own boundaries. All right,
sure. You know, you you've got this sort
of um oh, I just blanked on the
word, centrism around one's own culture.
Cultural anthroentrism, is that the
word? Anyway, you know, this the centism
around one's culture. I grew up in this
culture. I can't think any other way.
They might still have true conclusions
and still use reason
well or maybe not use reason well, but
maybe the argument is is put together
perfectly fine. Sure, that is possible
even if you have a bias.
So pointing out a bias, pointing out
prejudice, pointing out uh you know some
sort of cultural centism, pointing out I
mean I don't know there's a whole list
of ways, right, that somebody could have
this psychological state that interferes
with
reason. That doesn't mean there's
anything wrong with the
argument. If you're going to point out a
bias, cool. But you got to tell me where
there went where something went wrong.
either a piece of evidence is false, not
enough evidence, or the form of the
argument is in bad
shape. So just sitting there calling
people names, accusing people of various
shortcomings is not going to do it.
These are not the good forms of
inference. You got to show me what's
wrong with the evidence or the argument.