Video summary
The speaker begins by challenging the common expectation that anxiety recovery is driven by sudden, game-changing moments or dramatic epiphanies. Drawing from their own history as a full-time anxious individual who struggled with panic disorder, agoraphobia, OCD, and depression, they explain that despite desperately wanting a mic-dropping realization to instantly fix everything, such moments never occurred for them or the thousands of others they have interacted with. Instead of finding a magical solution through endless scrolling or searching for new information, the recovery process was quiet, tedious, and often frustrating. The speaker expresses gratitude for having done this work before the era of social media, as the modern "endless scroll" environment is filled with promises of quick fixes that can trap anxious people in a cycle of hopelessness where they bounce from one potential solution to another without actual progress.
The true nature of recovery is described not as a leap forward but as a slow, incremental process akin to moving out of an apartment item by item rather than using a single big truck. While there were certainly important moments along the way, such as deciding that feeling like a failure was unacceptable, these shifts were subtle and did not immediately change how one felt or functioned. The speaker clarifies that while these moments provided motivation, they were not game-changers in the way gurus or coaches often promise; the real transformation happened through consistent, repetitive action and doing the difficult work rather than waiting for a breakthrough. Eventually, people realize they have recovered not because of a specific event, but by looking back and seeing how they slowly stopped asking anxiety for permission to live their lives, a realization that comes without fanfare or celebration.
A critical mistake many anxious individuals make is continuing to search for the elusive key to recovery through books, videos, or new strategies instead of engaging in the actual behavioral work required. The speaker emphasizes that this search is not a moral failing but a natural trap that blocks progress because it prioritizes comfort and information over action. To move forward, one must emotionally accept that there will be no magic fix and behaviorally commit to doing the hard, counter-intuitive work of facing fears or tolerating discomfort without trying to save oneself. This shift requires giving up the hope for a quick solution, not giving up on recovery itself, and understanding that courage is needed to act against the instinct to seek immediate comfort.
Ultimately, the message is one of patience and self-compassion in the face of a difficult but achievable process. The speaker reassures listeners that while the concepts discussed are easy to understand, implementing them requires significant effort and goes against common sense, which is why it feels so hard. By abandoning the strategy of waiting for a game-changer and embracing the slow, systematic nature of healing, individuals can make real progress. The video concludes by encouraging viewers to utilize available resources, such as previous podcast episodes and community support, to learn what the recovery process actually looks like in practice, reinforcing that everyone is on this journey alone but not without support or hope for a better future.
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In my anxiety recovery journey, there
were no game-changing moments. And in
the journeys of the thousands of people
that I've interacted with online
throughout the years, there have been no
game-changing moments. If you give me
about 15 minutes today, I will explain
what I mean. Before I was a formally
trained anxiety therapist, I was an
anxious person, like a full-time anxious
person. I dealt with panic disorder and
agoraphobia and OCD and depression for
many years of my life. Now, I don't
normally like to share my personal
experience in this kind of detail cuz I
don't think it's fair to hold up what I
did as a blueprint for what you should
definitely do. But today I do want to
share for a little bit cuz I think it'll
be helpful. And if you like this kind of
content, if it's helping you in your own
anxiety recovery journey, consider
liking the video or maybe subscribing to
the channel. So, when I was struggling
and suffering, I desperately wanted
game-changing, mic-dropping,
epiphany moments. But no matter how much
I wanted them, I had none. I was
desperate for anything that would
instantly change my mindset or make me
shift or make it click or make me less
afraid or make me less anxious or make
me more functional instantly. I was
desperate for that sort of thing, and I
really held out hope for a long time
that I was going to somehow stumble upon
that. But no matter how much I looked
for that and how much I wanted that,
there were no mic-dropping,
game-changing moments full of epiphanies
that suddenly fixed everything or
started me in high gear or moved me
along very quickly. It just didn't
happen that way because that's generally
not how it happens for anybody.
Remember, I was doing this work way
before the era of the endless scroll,
and in a way, I'm really thankful for
that because if I had been recovering in
the era of the endless scroll, I would
probably still be endlessly scrolling
looking for these big game-changers and
mic-drop concepts that were going to fix
everything for me. So, I feel very
fortunate that I did this work before
the endless scroll. In many ways, while
I was frustrated, while I was impatient,
while I wasn't necessarily sure that I
was doing it right, while I couldn't
really see progress from day to day,
while I was getting really angry
sometimes at the process, I really had
no choice but to just sort of keep
slogging through the mud to see how it
would turn out. I didn't have the option
of endlessly scrolling and endlessly
searching for something that was going
to make it better. It just didn't exist,
and for that, I am truly grateful. Now,
if you're listening to this, you are
probably searching, maybe endlessly
scrolling for that game-changing thing,
that mic drop, that epiphany, something
that's going to make you feel different,
that is going to make it click for you,
that's going to make you feel braver, or
less anxious, or less afraid, or more
willing to face your fears and do the
difficult things I talk about on this
podcast. And I don't blame you for that.
It's okay that you're doing that,
because everybody has a right to want to
feel better, and I certainly don't blame
you for searching for something that
will make you feel better quickly.
That's not a crime. So, if you are in
fact doing that, I do not blame you for
that, but I'm guessing that you're just
bouncing from mic drop to mic drop, from
game-changer to game-changer, from
epiphany to epiphany, and nothing is
actually landing. Nothing is having the
effect that you're hoping it will have.
I do want to acknowledge, though, that
the endless scroll today in the social
media environment that we're in, in an
attention-based scroll, where
everybody's just trying to get you to
like or subscribe, or keep scrolling, or
to get sticky, or to buy something from
them,
many, many, many people, some of which
even have qualifications and training
and should know better, will promise you
game-changers. You will hear the word
game-changer, the phrase this changed
everything, over and over and over. So,
just be aware, if you are hooked into
that cycle, it's kind of not your fault,
and it's really easy to get hooked
there. But, that doesn't mean you need
to stay there. So, what did that process
actually look like for me? Well, to be
honest with you, it was quiet. It was
not exciting. It was not glamorous.
There were no big shifts. There were no
moments where I leaped ahead forward. It
was just slow and tedious and sometimes
frustrating and sometimes it made me
angry and sometimes I was unsure what
was even happening or if anything was
happening. But what it started to look
like over time with repeated experience
with consistent action that I was
taking, it started to look like moments
where I would have realizations, not
epiphanies. Now, an epiphany is sort of
forward-looking. A realization is
backward-looking. There were times when
I might notice that for the last couple
of hours I wasn't fixated solely on how
I felt. I wasn't glued to staring at my
own body and mind and I would wonder in
those moments, "Wow, that's pretty cool.
How did that happen?" I didn't know how
it happened, but I started to realize I
was having those moments. Then I would
start to recognize that I would go for
maybe a day or two or even a few days at
a time without trying to manage my
anxiety or even caring that much about
it. Sure, I'd have moments where things
got dicey, but suddenly I discovered
that I was having days at a time when
how I felt wasn't the most important
thing in the room. And invariably I
would think when I realized that, "How
did that happen? I don't How did I get
here?" And I hope it lasts. Even when I
was having those realizations, I wasn't
necessarily sure what was creating those
shifts and I wasn't certain of what
would maintain those shifts, so I just
had to keep going. And in the end, my
recovery kind of looked like slowly
moving out of your old apartment item by
item instead of in one big moving truck.
You just keep taking things out and
taking things out and you're not sure
that you're actually even moving, but
one day you look around and discover
that the apartment is empty and there's
nothing else to move and you just sort
of quietly turn off the lights and close
the door behind you and it's over. It's
very anticlimactic. There was no
celebration, there was no parade, there
was no fireworks, there were no high
fives. It just sort of petered out and I
didn't even know how that happened, but
I noticed that it did. So, what does
that look like for other people? People
in my therapy practice or people in my
social media community. Well, kind of
looks the same. Everybody spends a lot
of time searching for mic drop moments
and epiphanies and game-changers like I
did. And often they spend much more time
than I did looking for those things
because now you can. But in the end,
when they sort of get there and they
feel like they have reached that
desensitized or recovered state, which
is going to vary by the way from person
to person and day to day, they don't
really even know how they got there.
They just know that they sort of look
backwards and see like, "Oh yeah, that
just sort of slowly changed over time
and suddenly I don't ask my anxiety for
permission to live my life anymore." And
when they realize that, it's a really
great day and it's always great to be
able to share those things with people,
whether it's my therapy clients or or
you guys listening and watching. But it
didn't just look that way for me. It
kind of looks that way for all recovered
people. Now, this doesn't mean that
there were no important moments. There
were certainly important moments in my
journey and there were important moments
for everybody along the way. For me,
when I discovered that I didn't want to
not only feel like I was failing, but I
started to feel like a failure. And when
I noticed that I didn't want to feel
like a failure anymore, that was a big
important moment. I actually made a
couple videos about that years ago. And
I'm not going to deny that that was an
impactful moment. It was a shift. There
was no doubt about that. But it was more
of a subtle shift. Even when I
discovered I didn't want to feel like a
failure and I decided that that feeling
was unacceptable, that might be the
moment when I tipped over from like the
pain of not changing was greater than
the pain of changing, it still didn't
make any major operational or functional
changes right away. I may have had that
realization and reached that conclusion,
which was certainly important, but it
didn't change how I felt or how I was
functioning right away. I was just as
afraid an hour later as I was an hour
before that moment. I was just as afraid
the next day as it was the previous day.
So, while it maybe helped me find a
little bit more motivation, consistency,
or even the ability to be brave on a
more regular basis, I still had to go
through and have those experiences and
keep doing the things. That important
moment of deciding feeling like a
failure wasn't going to be acceptable
was not a game-changer. It really just
sort of informed a slight change in the
way I was doing the process, but it was
the doing of the process that ultimately
made that slow, gradual, very
unglamorous, incremental, almost
unnoticeable change until it was
noticeable. And so for you, just like
other people in my therapy practice or
my social media audience, I'm sure there
will be important moments. Moments where
things do sort of shift a little bit,
but a little bit, not major. It's not
game-changing. It's not mic-dropping. It
doesn't change everything like the
internet or all the gurus and healers
and coaches are going to promise you.
Hell, even some therapists who should
know better. There are important moments
and you can lean on those. You can rely
on those and they certainly matter in
your personal experience like they did
in my personal experience, but we just
can't see them as like major
game-changing moments where suddenly
everything clicked and you moved into
high gear because the odds are very high
that that's not going to happen that
way.
So, what mistake might you be making?
And I I hate to use the word mistake,
but let's be honest, it is a mistake and
I made that mistake, too. If you are
still hanging on like hot death to the
idea that if you just scroll a little
more or read another book or watch
another video or follow another person
on Instagram or listen to another
podcast or watch another lecture or join
join another support group or join
another coaching program. If you are
laboring under the belief that if you
just keep doing those things, you will
find the key that unlocks your recovery,
you might have to consider not doing
that anymore. That is ultimately a
mistake. What's the mistake there? It's
not a moral failure. It's not a
character failure. It doesn't make you
weak. It's not a crime. It doesn't make
you a bad person. But, the failure or
the mistake there is that doing that
tends to get in the way of doing actual
recovery. If you give an anxious person
the choice between buying another book
or facing their anxiety, learning to
willfully tolerate, mindfully be aware
of what's going on, and move forward
anyway, they will pick the book. I know
I would have. If you give an anxious
person the choice between finding the
next new food that will fix them or or
improve their gut health so their fear
goes away, or going and doing a scary
thing 20 miles from home or not
responding to scary thoughts about
stabbing your dog if you have OCD, for
instance, you will pick the new food. I
will try the new food or I will
eliminate bread from my diet, and that's
going to fix it because it's certainly
easier to do that. So, it is not a moral
failure or a character flaw if you're
doing that. But, if you are searching
for a game-changer, and you've been
searching for a game-changer for a very
long time, which is trying one after the
other, the mistake is that that often
gets in the way of actually doing the
recovery things that I talk about all
the time. But, it's okay. Be nice to
yourself cuz all of us get caught in
that trap. I did for sure. So, where's
the shift? I think the shift is both
emotional and behavioral in nature. On
an emotional level, the shift has to be
coming to terms with the fact that the
game-changer isn't coming for you. It
doesn't happen that way. You have to get
okay on an emotional level with the idea
that the way to recovery is slow,
tedious, repetitive, systematic, like
slogging through the mud, and being
unsure or uncertain or feeling less than
certain about your outcome, maybe even
doubting yourself. That is the process
of recovery. And while no one wants it
to look that way, there's an emotional
shift that has to happen. I have to get
okay. You have to get okay with the idea
that that's more likely how you're going
to get out of the hole that you're in.
It's not going to come with a big
game-changing moment because of to one
thing you saw on TikTok or YouTube. It's
going to come because you are doing
things. And it's the doing of the things
repetitively, systematically, with
self-compassion, with patience, with
kindness, with an awareness of why
you're choosing to do difficult things
like not save yourself when you think
you're supposed to. It's the doing of
the things that's the behavioral shift.
Now, in some instances, like especially
health anxiety and OCD, it's not doing
things. So, the emotional shift is
getting okay with the fact that you kind
of have to do it this way. And the
game-changer isn't coming to fix
everything overnight for you. And the
behavioral shift is starting to actually
do the recovery things or in certain
situations learning to not do the things
that will lead you to recovery. Now,
that's a big ask, but it can be done.
It's the shift that you have to make.
It's the shift that I had to make, and
it's the shift that everybody who's ever
overcome these type of problems has had
to make at some point. So, you're not
alone in that. Keep that in mind. Now,
this does not mean giving up. People
sometimes hear me talk about this stuff
and they think I'm telling them to give
up. I'm never telling anybody to give
up. You don't have to give up on the
recovery process. You don't have to give
up on yourself. You don't have to give
up on the life that you hope that you're
going to have. It's not about giving up
hope. It's not about giving up the
fight. It is a little bit about giving
up the fight cuz this isn't really about
fighting. It's about learning, and you
don't have to give up on the process of
recovery. You just have to shift into
doing the process of recovery instead of
thinking about it or hoping that the
process will deliver you some sort of
magic, you know, fix or information
that's going to change everything.
There's no giving up here. If there's a
giving up, and I talked about this
recently in my short-form content,
YouTube shorts, and Instagram, if you're
not following me on my Instagram, you
should maybe do that, the.anxious.truth.
I talked about that. Sometimes quitting
in anxiety recovery is important, and
when I talked about quitting, I was kind
of facetiously saying that sometimes we
have to quit strategies that aren't
working. So, this isn't about giving up.
You do not have to give up and just be
resigned to a lifetime of misery or
suffering. You are just probably going
to have to give up on the thing that
you've been hoping is going to fix you
when that's not actually coming to fix
you. And as it turns out, paradoxically,
as if we need another paradox, that we
can give up on the things that aren't
working like hoping for the mic-dropping
game-changer, then we can actually
engage with the things that were more
likely to work and give us a better
chance to get where we want to be. So,
please don't hear this as needing give
up or resign yourself to just always
being anxious and always suffering. It
doesn't work that way. Sometimes we just
have to give up some things to get other
things and but that's just life in
general, isn't it? Now, always remember,
as usual, the stuff that I talk about in
this podcast, these are difficult
things. They're easy concepts. They're
not difficult concepts, but they are
difficult to implement. They are big
asks. They require, you know, courage.
They require counter-instinctual type of
stuff. There's nothing common sense
about this, especially in the heat of
the moment. It's actually the opposite
of common sense. That's why we use the
word paradox here all the time. It's the
opposite of what you think you should
do. I want to save myself. I won't. I
want to get away. I won't. I want to
avoid. I won't. Nothing about that is
easy because courage is involved. It
doesn't make any common sense and it
goes against that powerful drive in the
moment for all human beings to seek
comfort. So, if it's difficult for you,
know that it is difficult for everybody.
You have to be nice. You have to be
kind. You have to recognize you're
trying to do a difficult thing. Again,
you have to be patient. If I didn't
think you could do it, I would not sit
in front of these cameras and
microphones every week on two podcasts
and keep recording. I think you can do
it. I just think it's hard work. So, if
I'm going to summarize in my own
experience, as much as I wanted big
mic-dropping epiphany game-changing
moments, there were none. The recovery
process doesn't look like that. Didn't
look like that for me. Doesn't really
look like that for anybody. And
sometimes we get caught in the mistake
of desperately searching for that over
and over even though it's not coming and
that blocks us from taking the actions
that we need to take to actually enact
the process. So, if you're stuck in
there, the shift you have to consider
today would be can I find the
willingness to abandon that strategy and
can I find the willingness to start to
move in a behavioral direction where I
start to actually do the process of
recovery. And by the way, if you're not
sure what the process of recovery looks
like, there's 346 other podcast
episodes, at least in the anxious truth,
that you can go back and listen to and
there's all the episodes of the
disordered podcast that I do with Josh
Fletcher. That's at disordered.fm. So,
if you stumbled upon this podcast or
this YouTube channel today and you're
like, "Okay, fine. What does that
process look like?" There's a ton of
free information that I put out that
teaches you how to do that. So, that is
episode 347 of The Anxious Truth, I
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