Anti-Aging Expert Explains How to Improve Your Diet and Lifestyle | Kellyann Petrucci

We go through life day after day, we numb down, numb down, numb down, and we somehow we have to stop and we have to say, "How am I feeling? How do I feel?" Because it's that disconnection, I'm going to get woo-woo here, it's that disconnection from the source, from our source, and understanding where our power really comes from and really connecting and understanding that we're going to get walloped if we do not stay present. Hey everybody, welcome to Health Theory. Today's guest is Dr. Kellyann Petrucci. She's a board-certified naturopathic doctor and New York Times best-selling author of several books including the Bone Broth Diet and Cleanse and Reset. She also frequently appears on Dr. Oz, Good Morning America, and The Today Show as a nutrition and anti-aging expert. Now, you definitely had me at hello with anti-aging, so my seek well, my not secret at all desire now is to I want to live forever, that's the real truth. Mhm. Um, it's probably a long shot, but anything that I can do to feel better, uh, perform better, look better, I'm certainly going to be down with. So, what is what are the lifestyle changes that somebody should make if they really want to look good, feel good for a very, very long time? Yeah, we see we're seeing now longevity is really spiking. So, what you feel is what so many people are feeling because we've been through so many one-hit things. First it was, you know, fat. Oh, well, you know what? We don't want you eating fat, we're going to have you on all these other kind of fats. We're going to have you on vegetable and canola and sunflower and safflower. And we find out that these are so inflammatory, but that by the time you put them in your cart, they're already rancid. That's interesting. I never hear people talk about that. So, explain what is so problematic about those on the shelf. simple. It's very simple. The containers in which they're held, they are clear, a lot of them, and light gets through, oxidizes the oil, and it becomes literally rancid. And rancid oils mean inflammation. So, when we're talking about aging, anti-aging, all of that, that's one of the premier easy things, the the basic premise of the choices that we can make is the oils that we use. We're going to go on to coconut oils, different kind of oils, healthier oils. Time magazine had on the cover, "Eat your butter." So, we keep going through these corrections. And we did the same thing with sugars, uh sweeteners. We can't We can't do regular sugar, it's not good for us. So, let's do the pink, yellow, and blue packets. Then it stopped. Let's not do that. Let's go on to these type of sugars. Let's go on to more monk fruit, stevia, things like that. Another midcourse correction. Same thing, meat and potatoes. Let's go from meat and potatoes, let's go from that to all meat. Uh well, that's not working. Let's go to all juice. Well, that's not working. Let's go to more paleo. Well, that's not perfect. Let's go to paleo-ish. Okay, well, let's go to keto. That's almost right. Now, what about keto 2.0 or kind of keto? And What is kind of keto? Well, kind of keto is taking the basic principles of keto. And basically with keto, the problem is that people aren't getting enough fiber because of the carbohydrate allowance, which is about you know, 5% of the the diet is is carbohydrates. That's not enough for people to be able to explore carbohydrates in the way that they should. So, they become constipated and irritable. They're the two things that we see with people who stay on keto for a long period of time. So, I stayed on keto for 9 months. Mhm. Um it was awesome. I felt wonderful. My relationship with food completely changed. That's key. But I didn't at all um I didn't have constipation or anything and have any trouble. My bowel movements were money. But I did notice um my muscle mass was going down. I just felt softer. I was trying to keep my carbs essentially at zero. Yeah. Um and I go back and forth. I'm I'm saying all of this because I go back and forth on fiber and its importance. So, right now, I get fiber cuz I do um I have some vegetable matter. I have some nuts, but I probably get 70% of my calories from red meat just to really trigger people. Mhm. Um but for some people it works. I started telling you about these course midcourse corrections because I start I've seen everything in nutrition and I can sit here and tell you honestly for the first time I'm seeing some really positive things in nutrition. We're starting to get it right. When you understand ancestral medicine and ancestral nutrition Right. we really do work better with some foods. And then there's also environment that you have to consider and that's the environment that you put yourself in and you stay in because that has different effects on the body and how you digest, how you metabolize, all of that. But, there are foods that tend to work best with our body and that's when I went into a whole dive and started really exploring these foods. I thought, "Why doesn't anyone know this?" You know, that's why I wrote nine books. Why doesn't anyone know this? Why doesn't anyone know that these foods really do juice us up? So, what I loved about paleo is it broke down each food category and it said, "Hey, listen. If you want proteins, these are the best proteins. Red meats work really well for some people. They really do. It depends on the amount of inflammation that you have in your body. It has to do with prostaglandins. It has to do with so many inflammatory markers in your body, but some people are able to eat more red meat than others. And also with with paleo, it breaks down vegetables. Like, you know, energy vegetables versus fibrous type of vegetables. How much you should have of that? Fats. Here Here are the good fats. So, that's why I really gravitated towards that because it basically just broke down the macros and said, "These are really good proteins. These are really good fibrous vegetables. These are really good energy vegetables. And your energy vegetables should really match what your needs are. So, it's not a matter of, you know, uh carbohydrates are terrible for you. They're inherently bad. They're not inherently bad. You just have to match your energy. You have to match the amount of energy that your body needs to really fuel itself and to really drive. And that's the key. And so, you know, keto, the same thing with fats. We We Most people when they start a keto, they were 50 to 75% fat. That works great for some people. It doesn't for others. It provides a level of discomfort. What I care about and what matters to me and what matters for longevity is that we're getting these foods that our body recognizes. We're getting these foods that our body understands. We're getting these foods that our body drives off of. Now, the the template on which it falls, I believe it's very similar for us. But how much that you should have and the balance that's right for you, it Now, that's where it gets a little bit different and that's where personal play has to come in. And that's where a lot of these diets provide awesome guidelines. Awesome guidelines. But you have to know how to read your body. Okay, so before we go into [clears throat] the individual stuff, um you gave a great high-level overview. Now, let's dive in. So, getting back to the initial question of what is the the ideal for somebody that wants to extend their um high-level performance, uh what is the sort of perfect diet? I get that that the truth is you have to try it for yourself and that there is massive amounts of variability. But it'd be great to just pick that sort of middle person right in the bell curve, smack in the middle. Um what is their What are actual things that they should be getting at the grocery store? Yeah, so the highest quality that you can afford. That's number one. What do you mean by high quality? So, if you can get organic, get organic. You can get pasture-raised, you get pasture-raised. You can get grass-fed meats, awesome. I firmly believe that most of us operate really well off of meats. Okay? So, I also find that a lot of people, in terms of protein, operate really well when they put a lot of fish in there instead of red meat. So, if you're thinking, "How do I build this plate? Kelly Ann, just tell me how I build this damn plate." You want to have protein. Like you said, go to the grocery store, buy some really good proteins that work for your body. Get them Get them as as healthy as you can as you can because quality actually does matter. Try to balance that plate out. Make sure you have some fibrous vegetables. What are those? It's the green stuff. I don't care if you juice it. I don't care if you chop it. I don't care what you do. You know, so we talk about quality of food and you know, what can they do? Should they only eat organic? If you saw what I saw and you saw what really what people were really eating, I'm not worrying about a chicken carcass that's not perfect all the time. If you can get people to eat in balance, get as best quality as you can, get in balance and and it makes it such a such a big difference. All right, so I want to really pinpoint this notion of balance. So, when you say balance, you're talking protein, fat, carbohydrate? Like Yeah, so so yeah, because a lot of it's very off-kilter. Some people work operate fantastic on 50% fat. And then other people can operate on 25%. It depends. This is why with keto, I'm just saying when when people were on have been on keto, after a while we start hearing, "Well, it's not perfect for a lot of people." A lot of women Look, and I know people are going to write and say, "Are you kidding me? I got these results. I got these results." And for some people, when you're at a starting point where you need to lose a lot of weight, it gets the weight off. It makes the skin look a lot of better a lot better, but it's a matter of finding that balance somewhere between paleo, somewhere between keto. So, you have So, we go into a more weight maintenance and not diet, but more weight maintenance and more into longevity and more into sustainable diets. What's sustainable for you is different for other people. That's the whole key and that's what people want right now. This is what I'm hearing over and over again. They want to They want to look at things and approach things very different. People are looking at things for the first time, I think, more spiritually, more spiritually in their food. And that's why we're talking so much about plant-based everything now. It has to do with spirituality. People are feeling good on plant-based foods. And that's why the keto-ish or the keto 2.0, they're adding more plants. They're adding more opportunity for people to eat more vegetables and things. Is keto becoming a buzzword though? So, I was fat-phobic for a very long time and I had massive inflammation as a result. I wasn't eating carbs, but I was eating protein. Probably 85% of my calories I got from protein. Um I was trying to keep carbs as close to zero as possible, trying to keep fat as close to zero as possible. I basically lived in rabbit starvation. Absolutely atrocious for the joints. It got me lean as hell. I looked [ __ ] awesome, but I did not feel great. Uh so, I finally um I encountered Dom D'Agostino, Peter Attia. They're like, "Look, you need to be consuming fat." They started talking about ketogenics and when they were talking about it, it was all about you take a blood test and there are either ketones in your bloodstream or there are not. So, if you were going to define keto 2.0, so if keto 1.0 were defined by ketones in your bloodstream, what's keto 2.0? It's mid fat and fiber. That's how you want your body to look. fat, that's quantity of fat? Mhm. So, you still think fat before carbs. However, it's different now because there's the the the ratio has now changed where you can have more carbohydrates. So, just think about it like that. It's really it's really allowing more fiber through allowing more carbo- carbohydrates. So, people can sus- they they feel like they can sustain longer. And that's the key. So, whenever you have comfort in eating, the results are far greater. So, it's a it's about allowing the body to experience comfort. And we see a younger generation coming in and their tolerance for things like uh you know, I remember just driving myself, trying different diets and bodybuilding and body and lift weights and you know, doing shows and competitions and how lean am I? Can I see the am I ripped? And all it's very different now. So, now what they want to see is they want to they want to have more peace. They want to feel more fulfilled. It's much more about loving themselves. And we're starting to really change all of that that pain gain thing. And we're going more towards, you know, let's feel better all the way around. Let's feel better. Let's have joy. Let's feel better. Somehow this word joy has captured people and they actually want to experience more joy and not as much of the grind. It's interesting and that certainly brings up stress. So, uh what's the role of stress when we think about longevity? Um how detrimental? How does that impact us? What do we do to solve some of the problems that it creates? Yeah, so that is the entrepreneurial's dilemma. Yes. Okay. And that's funny because when we start achieving greatness and more greatness and we start really achieving all of these things, sometimes life doesn't get easier on our bodies and and we really start experiencing more stress than we did before and we have to figure out how to manage it cuz I can tell you stress will take you down every time. Everyone has stress in their life in somehow and that's what I realized in talking with all these people that everyone has some kind of stress and stress damages cells. And So, I know that you went through a really stressful period that manifested in losing consciousness on a flight which is Yeah. Sounds terrifying. Yes. What have you done to rebuild from that? Like what are you doing now to de-stress? Is it about joy? Is it about meditation, forest bathing? Like what are the things that you're actually doing that are somewhat prescriptive that people can follow if they're trying to to bring their stress down? For me, I think a lot of my stress had to do with not having boundaries. I was boundary deficient. I was boundary deficient in so many areas of my life. I look back and even when I look back if I look at pictures or selfies is like, "How did you not see that coming?" You looked burnt out. You were burnt out. So, I was on this plane and I remember the woman sitting next to me, she was in the middle putting a cookie in her mouth, I'm not kidding, and I turned to her and I said, "Hey, my name's Kelly Ann. I'm not feeling well. I'm on not on any medications, but I'm probably going to pass out and you're going to have to get me help." That was the last thing I remember. Next thing I was in the galley of the plane with all of the airline the airline stewardess and and such putting ice and packing ice everywhere and I was going in and out of consciousness and all I heard was, "Is there a doctor on board? Is there a medical professional on board?" And I'm laughing in the back saying, "Yeah, right here." But, you know, so there was a gentleman on the plane that was a doctor that was going to his class reunion and he happened to be on that flight. And at the end of all of it and he sat with me the whole time, they made sure I had hydration, he was checking my pulse, all of this. The end he "Kelly Ann, you do realize you're burnt out, right? You have to do something. You're burnt out." The problem is, Tom, is that we become very numb. We go through life day after day. We numb down, numb down, numb down, and we somehow we have to stop. We have to say, "How am I feeling? How do I feel?" Because it's that disconnection I'm going to get woo-woo here. It's that disconnection from the source, from our source, and understanding where our power really comes from, and really connecting and understanding that we're going to get walloped if we do not stay present. Because that that's when our body really manifests and holds on to all that stress. That stress is tough. And it's tough on the body. How do you stay centered? How do you find that alignment? Like, what do you do on a daily basis or weekly or, you know, whatever your cadence is? Well, for one thing, exercise is very important. What kind of exercise do you do? I do all kind of exercises, different kind. I do limbic type of exercises. So, it's exercises that allow my body to breathe and to move. I do yoga. I do dance. I do a lot of dance. I do weights. I like to really move my body, and then I like to be still. So, you have to get into meditation and understanding breathing and just finding that time to absolutely reconnect with yourself. Because we're losing a connection to ourselves. And if I had really realized this, I had to learn this through the going through this myself. So many of the patients that I saw I I realize now that's what they were that's what they were going through. They were disconnected. They stopped feeling. They were just getting through the day and, you know, getting through this and getting through this and getting through this. And after a while, it comes back and your body gets the ultimate revenge. Your body will get revenge. Why do you call it revenge, out of curiosity? Yeah, I call it revenge because your body starts giving you signals, and you you can get sick. You For me, my revenge was I got extremely exhausted and passed out on a plane and my my body was saying, "How many times do we have to tell you?" Because your body does give you signs and and and and signals. So, how do people listen for that? What are they listening for? How does it manifest? Like, what was it now looking back leading up to that moment? Cuz you had um a real sense of presence to be able to say, "I know where this is going." What was it leading up to that that if it were to happen again that you would catch it much earlier? Oh my gosh. First of all, I when I looked at my eyes and a lot of these these pictures, they were sunken in. My eyes lost their life. My skin had a got very swollen and didn't have vibrance to it. And I always prided myself on things like that. You know, my body I always kept it, you know, kind of very fit and like like a ballerina, very smooth. And I just started gaining that cortisol tire. I had all the signs of exhaustion. And the thing is is I I lost my I lost my lust for life in the same way that I have now or that I had before that. I because I just I and I wasn't even aware. And that's the thing. I talked to patients that have been in marriages and and they they became really ill staying in relationships that were that were not serving them. And it wasn't until they got out of the situation, they didn't realize they didn't realize how bad they felt. They didn't realize how that every day hit of, you know, leaking your power and leaking your energy, that every day hit every how it affected them. And it it really does. And you you just have to stay attuned and just ask yourself how you feel. And you'll notice things like, you know, "Gosh, how tired am I? Do I have achy joints? Let me look at my skin. Let me see my eyes. Do I still feel vibrant? Do I still have, you know, a lust for life?" How do you feel? Like, stopping and asking that question is a really important question to ask. And we don't. We just We just go through it. We go through it. And and you know, I had to learn, and I would never allow that to happen again. I would never say yes to as many things as I said yes to. I would never allow people that were not well-intended in my life again. I would never pummel through work to make other people happy instead of myself. I would never put any other mission besides the mission that will serve me and those, you know, that I love. I would never put that before anything else. And a lot of it a lot of everything in life, I'm really finding out it does have to do with the six six and inches between your ears. It's a mindset thing, you know. That's interesting. So, I'm interested in this concept of reset, which I know you also talk about from a true just diet and bodily perspective, but talk to me about it from a mindset perspective. How do you reset? What are you doing um when you're dancing? Is there anything conscious going on there, or is that just sort of re-aligning yourself through rhythm and movement? Or in meditation, is it a um an awareness like a mindfulness practice? Like what what are what are you doing mindset-wise? Yeah, it's understanding that we are not just skin and bones. We're atoms and molecules. We have a megahertz. Our cells communicate. This unbelievable life that we have inside of us, and understanding this big ball of energy, and saying, "You know what? I want to harness that energy. I'm going to harness it, and I don't want to leak it. I want to keep it in." That's the understanding. And then when I go into meditation or I go into dance or anything like that, I'm visually picturing what I want. If I call it my own television show, it's in my mind. It's locked in here, and it's strong, and that is one of the biggest differences that I've ever made in my life. Is really pulling things to towards me, and understanding how possible this really is. It has been life-changing for me. Life-changing. I'm going to need to understand more about that. So, okay, the process is you're sitting there, you're finding physical stillness. Every day I find physical stillness. It has got to be habitual. This will only work if you do it on a regular basis and it can take 3 4 minutes a day. Sit down, foom, pull up your own TV show. You see you. Everything you want, you desire, everything everything that's for your greater good, everything that you that that is your purpose, you see it as if it's happening. And I picture myself telling someone else all of these amazing things about my physical my personal life, my business life, all of it as if it is already there. So, my body is working and functioning in that modem as if it's already there. And funny enough, how people show up to make and realize all of those things that you're putting in your in your mind and your you're just locking it in your mind. And it it's not about, well, if I go sit and meditate, you know, underneath this tree every day, I'm going to pull everything towards me. I want you to know there is not one part of my body that would ever do that. To think that that's all I need to to do to make things happen. You have to take action. You have to take action. But, there's a certain there's a certain thing that happens in your mind, in your cells, in your body when you really concentrate and you focus on that and then you go. So, there's the metaphysical and then there's the physical. And you want to be able to capture and really work in both worlds because that's where the magic really happens. Really capturing capturing your your future by demanding it. Demand it. Demand what you want. Demand it within yourself. And then you go and you get it. And it's it's funny because I'll go up to people and it's very natural for me now to ask for what I want. It's because I'm putting I'm locking it in my body, in my physiology. I walk like you have to assume the position. Assume the position of your day. And I tell myself this and I start my day like a tiger. I want to be a tiger. That's it. What does that mean? So the attributes of a tiger? So attributes [clears throat] of a tiger is someone who's fearless and someone who's bold because one of the things that I've learned is I sat on the bed through my my Swiss training. I sat on the bed of a lot of people who were dying. You know what they had, Tom? Regrets. That is what you hear so often. What are some common ones? That's actually really interesting. It's really interesting. And here's the biggest thing that they they regret. Uh a lot of people they were they were wealthy, a lot of these people, and they regretted that they did not spend more time with their children. And the other big one was that they regretted that they didn't go for it. That they had at all any fear in going for anything that they wanted. It's interesting that that's successful people saying that. Um I think there's something very interesting to take away from that in terms of having success in one area of your life. First of all, I think a lot of people think, "Oh, if I had financial success that I would stop and retire." And it does not work like that. Like being successful answers yesterday's problem. It certainly does not answer today's or tomorrow's problem. You still have that desperate thirst for meaning and purpose and Does not go away. drive and to feed your energy. Yeah, it's Doesn't even I I think it doesn't even get tainted at all. I think it's in your DNA and you have to respect and honor your DNA and who you are. A lot of us are very mission-based because it's that mission in you that just drives you. You know, I have my missions. I have my anger. I have it in my head and everything is leading leading leading leading to that, you know, to that overall mission. And it and I can't imagine any level of success that, you know, is in front of me that would stop me from wanting to be that person, that tiger. And I'm not saying it's not good to, you know, stop, ask yourself, slow down. I'm not saying any of that, but what I'm saying is I honor my DNA. I honor the fact that my friends growing up were reading Cosmo magazine and I was reading the diabetes journal with Mary Tyler Moore on the cover. [laughter] I honor everything, you know, all of those things. I honor that, you know, there's parts of me that are different than a lot of other people in terms of this drive that I have. Mhm. You know, respecting and honoring that drive, but at the same time not burning out over that drive. Yeah, that that's an interesting dichotomy for somebody who found themselves pushing so hard saying yes to everything that they end up having an episode to still be able to get on the other side of that and say, "Okay, I've got the awareness now. I know what I'm looking out for. I know this has to be mission based, but at the same time I'm not giving up that drive. I still want to be the tiger. I still want to have a level of aggression." to be. See, there's certain things I think that are more destructive than anything else. Not honoring who you really are. That is so destructive to the body. Every day living or being something that you really don't want to be. Living in a way that you don't want to live. And I'll tell you that's again it stems back from the experience of listening to people dying and saying, "I'm No, I'm not doing that." I'm going to express everything. I mean, don't you feel like you want to live your life and like squeeze every bit of potential that you have? Very much so. And when I see other people, I want to squeeze it out of them. I want to squeeze it out of them. So, I feel like my job and my role is to wake people up in that sense. I want to pull people out of the tunnel. What's the tunnel? The tunnel is feeling aimless and dark and lost and not sure. You're not sure and you're numb. I'm telling you do you get them out of that? You make them become aware and re-engage with themself. Then you see someone really on fire. You know that purpose is the key. All the money, all of this and all of that and all of this and that. It's great to have the security. It's great to have that security. Ain't going to make you happy. You know, it's just not. It's just not. It's not enough. It's not enough. It's not enough. And your body, you know, your body has has this intelligence. It's very interesting how the body works and the innate intelligence that it has and the signs and the signals that it gives you throughout your life. Just what you're interested in and you know, I was told by a college professor years ago, you'll know what you want to do. Where do you go when you go in a bookstore? You know, a library. Where do you Where's your attention? Where do you Where's And it was always the same for me. It was always those damn health books. We'd drive people crazy going to the beach. They'd flip open their novels. And I would sit there with my health stuff. I mean, it was obvious, but you have to pay attention to all these things about yourself. And I am seeing that now more than ever. People really being who they are. It's just not worth it. Just be a tiger. Go for it. Go for whatever. Don't be don't be embarrassed. Don't be shy. Don't whatever it is. And I just have a belief that, you know, I'm going to say whatever I'm supposed to say and I'm not going to get wired about it. I'm happy to be here. Happy to dispel any information or anything that I can give anyone that's going to help. You just I'm going to be a tiger about it. You know? Well, speaking of information that will help, uh let's come to the gut for a second. Mhm. So, gut health obviously huge part of what you do. Bone broth, healing the gut. Um how many people start sort of with a a gut base struggle and then what's the protocol to help them get out of that? Yeah. So, I would say most people come in with a gut base struggle and we see a lot of autoimmune problems. We see a lot of people with bloating, constipation, skin rashes, achy joints. These are all signs and symptomatologies of somebody who who likely has a gut that needs healing. And so, bone broth I love because it has this perfect blend of nutrition. So, there's amino acids which are upbuilding. And you've got some minerals that come out and we're also deficient in minerals and so many of the things that go on with us are really because we're lower in minerals. So a difference between doing bone broth and just cracking the bone open and eating the marrow? Would you get a different um nutritional intake? You may get a little different because you're going to get more glycine and glycine is really helpful for so many things and we find that it's more hydrating to the body and but you know, this just that bone marrow, I could eat that till the cows come home. The bone marrow is so good for you. I mean, you have to think about it like this and this is why I love bone broth for gut healing. If you get a sunburn, you reach for aloe vera. You put it on because it soothes and it heals the skin. Well, bone broth, the gelatin, cooked collagen, the bone broth uh that does the same thing for your gut. It heals and it seals the gut. And it works. So, you've got the collagen in there, the cooked collagen which is the gelatin which is so good for the gut. You've got minerals in there. You've got great pro- protein in there. You've got amino acids in there. And research also shows us that one of the things that we know that helps prevent a cold and the duration of a cold are these soups. They're really helpful for the immune system. So, you know, there's a lot of benefits to it and I put it in programs and weight loss programs and things over the years with intermittent fasting to help people get even more benefits, but compounded benefits. But anything that does any one thing that does this many things I love. Yeah, we really have some people that are e- evangelical about bone broth here on staff. It was a big part of Lisa's recovery. It was super, super impactful for her. Um is there a big um nutrient difference between making it yourself from whole bones and um getting powdered? It's whole bones is better. Okay. Pow- powdered is pretty close. I mean, there's some really good powders on the market right now. Same thing with the frozen broth. That's really easy. There's tons of good frozen broth that you can buy anywhere now. That's really good. And you just put hot water over the bag. It comes in a bag. You put hot water over it and you put it in the pot and you can have it very quickly. There's pressure cookers now that you can make bone broth in. You can cook it quicker, but it's that simmering for a long period of time letting all that good stuff come into the into that broth and it really is very healing for people. I think the word that comes to mind when I think of bone broth is restorative. Is there any gut issue where you don't recommend bone broth? Cuz oh man, the one thing I've learned with what my wife has been through is that healing gut issues is so complicated. People don't know that how complicated it can be and well, it's not only complicated, but it takes a long time and you have to be patient. Have to understand that that 20-plus feet of intestines that are going through that. It's a long narrow tube. And you've got, you know, so many microbes in your body and you want them to work for you and against you. You've got more microbes, these these bugs in your body than you do actual cells in your body. So, you want to nurture them. You want to nurture that soil and you want to really make that soil so that so that every 21 days when you have that cellular turnover, you're getting that as healthy healthy healthy healthy soil as you possibly can. So, you can really heal that gut and at the same time sealing everything up. It does take time, but let me tell you, Tom, when it happens, bam! The magic happens. Skin looks so much better. Your healing capacity is so much higher. You feel so much more energized. Again, longevity. Oh my gosh. I am telling you that is my core anti-aging regimen. That is You have to have foundational beauty. If you decide that you want to do all the other things, fine. Great. I'm not opposed to that. I understand what it feels like to advance in age. I understand what that feels like. And you have to do what makes you happy. But I don't care what you do. other stuff would be cosmetic adjustments. Yes, yes. you know, all the stuff. And that's okay. Do all the stuff. But you have to realize foundational beauty is where our real effervescence comes from. We know for a fact that we start losing collagen at about age 20. We start losing it little by little by little. And the collagen is like it's like nature's glue. It holds us up. It holds us together. And again, for longevity, for looking young, collagen is tends to be very helpful. So I throw collagen shake and you know, whenever I can. I love collagen because it's for me, it's it's one of those I I used to experiment with all these shakes, especially during my bodybuilding phase. Did you competed in bodybuilding? Oh, I was I was fierce. Figure competitor or actual bodybuilder? Oh, I was an actual bodybuilder. Wow, how big were you? Um well, I was lean. So my whole thing Or but bodybuilding is like a whole 'nother thing. Oh, I used to do Arnold Classics every year. I used to like, you know, that would be my masterminds with those people. Like like the Arnold I worked out and like I do everything else. I became the tiger. So I started working out and instead of just enjoying working out [laughter] like a normal person, I was like, how far can I fly? Cuz that's the question I always ask myself. How far can I fly? I want to read a book or I want to write a book. Do I write one? No, I have five books with Wiley publishing, two with Rodale, three with Penguin Random House. What I go I have to see how far how far can I fly? That's how I live my life. But again, getting back to the reason why I'm sitting in this chair was the the latest book and stuff. It's how do I do that and be that and not burn out? That's the question. That is the question. Where can people follow you on your journey to be a tiger without burning out? drkellyann.com. There's no e on that. drkellyann.com. On Instagram, it's Dr. Kelly Ann Petrucci. Nice. All right. If you were going to have people make one change that would have the biggest impact on their health, what change would you have them make? I would tell them to really dig in and do that television show I talked about every day. Pull up, live in live in that space in your head, get the 6 in between your ears right. You will see possibilities. You will draw possibilities. You will see your life in the way you want it to be and start making very different choices and start really directing people. And I have to add one more thing to that. I have to. Have an internal doorman. Have that internal doorman. Be careful what you let into your life. I'm not saying don't live openly and I'm I'm not saying don't have a heart, but have an internal doorman and understand these are choices that you make and who whomever that you let in your life, whatever you let in your life is a lot harder to get out than it is to get in. Don't forget that. That's good. Mhm. All right, guys. Your health matters so much, but hopefully you see how many people come on here that are all supposedly about health, but they also talk about the mind. The two are just inextricably linked and really understanding that that if you want to move forward, if you want to be a tiger in your life, you're going to have to get them both right. I think it's incredibly important. She has a lot of great ideas. Check her out. Read the book. It's really, really fascinating. Getting your health in a good place, getting the right foods in your system, getting rid of toxins, which we didn't get a chance to talk about. All of that stuff. Nutrients in, toxins out. Something she talks a lot about. So, dive in. There's a lot of great stuff there. If you haven't already, be sure to subscribe. And until next time, my friends. Be legendary. Take care. [applause] Thank you guys so much for watching and being a part of this community. If you haven't already, be sure to subscribe. You're going to get weekly videos on building a growth mindset, cultivating grit, and unlocking your full potential.