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An Existential Crisis On Ketamine In Ethiopia - Craig Jones

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In a recounting of an adventure in Ethiopia, Craig Jones describes an incident involving ketamine nasal spray and local moonshine while staying with tribespeople outside their usual campsites. The group initially attempted to consume locally brewed spirits that tasted like gasoline before switching to the ketamine spray during a reflective moment around a campfire. A goat herder who had been working for generations in his family's tradition observed Jones and others using the substance, eventually trying it himself despite language barriers with the translator present. After sitting motionless by the fire for two hours lost in visions of dark places rather than hotels or electricity, he expressed that while the experience was intense, he felt compelled to return immediately to his roots as a goat herder after giving Jones and others breakfast before leaving. Jones notes that this specific reaction from an Ethiopian desert dweller represents a unique existential crisis induced by ketamine compared to other substances he has shared with people in the past. The conversation then shifts to broader observations about British behavior abroad, particularly regarding drug laws and party culture in countries like Dubai, Bali, and Thailand during lockdown periods when many Brits fled their home country for rooftop pool parties and social gatherings. Jones highlights how authorities often lock up individuals found at such events even if they are not the primary source of drugs, noting that while British people generally follow rules domestically—such as orderly driving habits—they frequently disregard foreign laws once traveling internationally. The discussion further explores whether Australians share this same reckless attitude toward international regulations, with Jones acknowledging his own tendency to take chances and admit he is representative of typical Australian behavior rather than an outlier in disregarding local statutes abroad. He contrasts the territorial lane-defending style of American drivers with the orderly nature of British driving at home before describing how both nationalities often abandon caution when overseas partying becomes involved. This behavioral pattern extends beyond just drug possession to include general non-compliance with long-standing social norms like masking and distancing, which Jones suggests are sometimes viewed as silly rules that people willingly break once they leave their own jurisdiction. Throughout the anecdote, Jones maintains a humorous tone about his ability to dodge legal trouble while acknowledging friends who have been arrested in places like Dubai for hosting large parties or possessing significant quantities of substances such as gray goose vodka and various powders left out on tables during lockdowns. He reflects that despite being orderly citizens at home, both British and Australian travelers often engage in risky behaviors abroad without fully considering the severe consequences awaiting them if caught by local authorities who enforce laws strictly regardless of international standards or social distancing mandates. The narrative concludes with a promotional segment for Momentous zinc supplements aimed at improving testosterone levels, recovery, strength, energy, vitality through research-backed formulations that support natural hormone production and offer money-back guarantees alongside international shipping options.
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What was the ketamine thing? Oh, right. So, I won't say where we got it. Maybe I smuggled it in. But, uh, at one of the campfires when we're out of the tribes, right, we were trying obviously trying to entertain ourselves. Some of the stories you've told me off camera for sure. Um, we're trying to enter entertain ourselves. So, we had this ketamine nasal spray and we were sitting around this fireplace just being idiots like uh we d we were drinking the local moonshine. So, I thought that would be like a cool experience, but it was basically tasted like gasoline. The local guy was like, "I'm going to go get you guys some of the the moonshine." I was like, "Fuck, sick. Let's get drunk." And he came back and it was in a plastic bottle and it basically smelt like pure ethanol. So, I had to put that down. You know, I wasn't going to turn it away. And then we busted out the ketamine nasal spray and we were hitting that obviously being quite reflective at the fireplace. And there was a dude there that had just left goat hering. Goat hering had been his thing for generations, his family's thing. Very proud of the culture of goat hering out there. And he saw what we're doing being idiots. And he looked at the spray and he was like, he didn't even speak the same dialect as the guys we're with, but definitely you see a face that's interested and wants to try something. He hits the ketamine. And um he sat looking at the fireplace for 2 hours not moving. And then the translator came out and this guy was like, "Never give that to me again." And then 15 minutes later he's like, he's like, "Pass that back." And then uh how do you mean it'll do that to you? It's Yeah. It'll put you in a hole, put in a dark place, but you come out of it. And then this guy basically gave us this speech to a translator afterwards how he's had all these like visions and he's like he was working for the I wouldn't even say it's a hotel. There's really no electricity or anything. like we're sleeping in some tents, but he would sort of cook for us. And he'd only just started doing this cooking roll. And following the ketamine experience, he's like, "I have to live. I have to return to my roots of goat hurting." He's like, "I'm going to cook you breakfast in the morning and then I'm out of here." You gave a guy an existential crisis with ketamine. I've given a few people existential crisis with a few substances, but uh Ethiopian goat herder in the middle of the desert is definitely a first for me. Yeah. I mean, look, he's returned to his roots. I'm sure he's probably enjoying that more. I don't think the cooking life was for him. All right. Okay. So, you're a life coach now as well. Modern wisdom. That's all we're here for. Uhhuh. Yeah. Well, it's a hard it's a hard pivot, but I wonder how many people would sign up to be life coached by you. Could you imagine what the sort of outcomes of clients that were life coached by you would be? Probably a few large divorce settlements, I'd imagine. Uhhuh. Uh-huh. Yeah. All right. Who got arrested in Bali? What was that like? Like honestly, I don't know how high. Haven't ended up in a prison really in some of these travels. Yeah. kind of like uh you've been dodging very effectively. It's impressive. The Teflon dawn, you know, we're getting through airport security. Obviously, I I look uh I don't look suspicious at all. That's what I like to think, you know, but we I've managed to dodge it, but yeah, I know tons of people, tons of British guys getting popped even recently in Dubai with large two kids just got popped, the clothing company owners, right, for having this big party going on. A friend's girlfriend was someone who's just in the room next door or like nearby. It's like if you're at a party and there's somebody that has drugs, it's like ah we'll just lock you up for two weeks and we'll see what's going on here. Uh so not good. Really, really, really not good. Yeah. Yeah. You got to be careful in some of these countries partying. That's the problem with I I wonder whether it's the same with Aussies, but I certainly know that British people have this like disregard a lot of the time for the laws abroad. It's weird because British people are very orderly. Like if you've ever driven in the UK, you'll notice if if I'm in front of you and I indicate I I get your lane, like you back off. As opposed to in America, you guys protect the lane that you're you actively speed up to not allow that person to get in. It's very territorial. They defend the lane like the southern border basically. Correct. Yeah. Well, now Yeah. Whereas the British defend the lane like the southern border a year ago. Yeah. Um so very very opened up. Um so in some way are you 97% I think compliance with the first COVID vaccine like 90% with the second one quite a rule following type nation apart from when we leave and we go elsewhere and the sort of party culture I remember I was at [ __ ] I can't remember the name of the the hotel it was during co so we'd fled the UK me and a friend had fled the UK because another lockdown was coming and we weren't going to be able to fly anywhere and we just went to Dubai and we were watching MK play a rooftop pool thing in Dubai. Everybody there was British because they'd all done the same thing that we've done and fled the UK. And you think if there's one place you really don't want to be caught with drugs, it's [ __ ] Dubai. I mean, also maybe Bali and Thailand and stuff like that, but you really don't. They do not [ __ ] about. And it was just this classic sort of Larry British culture passing bags around, leaving them out on the table. you know, bottle of gray goose, bottle of Belvadier, bottle of like unpronouncable pink [ __ ] like powder. What was the name of this place so I can avoid it? That's on the UAE. I I honestly can't remember what it was called, but uh I just remember thinking this is during [ __ ] lockdown, so there supposed to be social distancing. There was supposed to be masking. Like, okay, you get through the new rules that you can maybe say are a little bit silly, but then you get to the ones where you go, they've been around for a long time and they're going to [ __ ] you up. And uh yeah, British people, but are Aussies like that? Are they kind of dis still go degen disregard the laws abroad mode? I would say for sure. Yeah, we're pretty reckless as well. Definitely take some chances. I for one. Yeah, I Okay. I'm aware that I'm aware that you might be I was assuming that you weren't representative. I think pretty representative. Yeah. All right. Okay. This is just normal. Yeah. Right. You're you're you're not anything different. You're just Australian. Normal Bergen culture. Yeah. Okay. In other news, this episode is brought to you by Momentous. If your workouts feel flat, your recovery is slow, or you've just been feeling off, it might not be your training plan or diet, might be something a bit more boring, like your testosterone. So, if you're not performing in the gym or the bedroom the way that you want, or you just want to naturally improve your testosterone, tonatali is a fantastic researchback place to start. And when this is stacked with zinc, it can make a huge improvement in testosterone production, strength, recovery, and energy. Which is why I'm such a huge fan of Momentous's zinc. It supports testosterone, boosts vitality, and helps keep everything running like it should. 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