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And you know, my father, he taught Usher Raymond. My grandfather was Samuel Jackson's football coach. >> Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit. It's a unique hustle. >> Check check this unique hustle. It's your boy ECO and I'm here with the lovely amazing official Miss Jamaica. What's going on? >> Nothing going. I want y'all to stop what you're doing right now. Go like, subscribe, follow us on all social media platforms. You know what I mean? All I mean, all I mean on Instagram, Facebook, Tik Tok, Snapchat, you name it, we're on it. Just Google us, Boss Talk Podcast 101. We pop up first in line, I guarantee you. But y'all see us on the streets and talk about, man, I love what y'all doing. Keep the good work. How can we be a part of the Boss Talk? This is how you can be a part of Boss Talk. Under each and every interview, including this one right here in the description section below, there's a link that says, "Join our membership. Click that link, follow all the instructions, and that's how you get to see all the exclusive content y'all been asking us. Where's this interview? Where's that interview?" you. You got to be a member to see it or go ahead and download our app at Boss Talk101 on any Apple or Google store. Thank you and we love you. >> Hey, listen, man. We got a special guest in here today. He don't need no introduction. We down here in Htown. It's about to go down. It's over, man. He finally made it to the building. Yeah. Hey, fresh dress like a million bucks. It's going down. Billy Sur is in the building. Stop playing, man. >> What's up? Y'all see it? You see it? Look at this. I came in here. clean, >> fresh dressed like a million bucks. >> I mean, you know, I'm not going to be on Jimmy Kimmel today, so you know, I got I got with you later. >> Step up, [ __ ] Damn what they said. They got to watch this before we move toward the greatness and leave them. You know what I'm talking about. [laughter] >> Turn your hair down a little bit. Show them the way you man. You know. Yeah, I'm rocking with you. I'm rocking like 12 in stock. [laughter] >> Ain't no glue under. >> No, no, no. This ain't no what they call it. Wet whatever. >> I don't know what it is. >> I don't know. Wet glue. There some [ __ ] they calling. They tried to call me out on that. Y'all [ __ ] know my wife would tell you. Yeah. They try to act like my [ __ ] wasn't real one time. I remember that. >> Yeah, man. >> I'm like, man, let me show y'all [ __ ] man. This [ __ ] here, man. Every week. Pull it up or whatever. It's tied to my head, huh? Whatever, man. The them them uh them little man units look like uh little helmets. [laughter] [ __ ] don't fade the side. They going to try to fade down here. That your hair down here don't even match up [laughter] here. >> Yeah. I said, "Yeah, Jamaica." So you born and raised here in Houston. What part? >> So I'm from Houston, Texas. Born in Chattanooga, Tennessee. This this interview is going to go worldwide. And my people out in Chattanooga, Tennessee if I if I you know what I'm saying? Uh my >> Chattanooga, man. You know, my father, he taught Usher Raymond. My grandfather was Samuel Jackson's football coach, assistant principal. >> So yeah, he gave them pops. >> And my dad used to uh me and Usher, man, it's crazy. when we was coming up, he was in my dad's class and uh man, I'd be up there at the school and see him after school. He'd be in detention in there working and doing art. >> Did that [ __ ] do this, >> bro? >> He wasn't doing that back then. >> No, no, [clears throat] he was he was he was just start ticking. [laughter] >> No, man. Usher was was killing the game, man. Back then, man. You know, >> that's back when you used to go to the mall. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. >> All you had to do was like just take us up to the mall. You ain't got no money. You just going up to the mall. You going to walk. >> I think he still do that. >> And listen, bro. You catch Usher in there, man. Usher, you know, he have all the money, but he be at like by a where a where a bourbon chicken be at. >> Yeah. >> You know, whatever. You get a bourbon chicken. He eating that, he sampling. >> He catch a G sing [laughter] to it. >> Yeah. He going to sing to it. Mom's body, he sung to it twice. It's over. >> Twice. It's over. Let's get it, Miss Jamaica. >> So, you were you raised in the household with your mom and your dad? So interesting break uh um story. My father initially raised me when my mom and my father split. Um me and my mom got a lovely relationship at this point in life. But watching my father raise me and my sisters um it really instilled certain mechanics in me that allowed me [clears throat] to be successful at a very early age. And I I'm really thankful for him as well as what my mom put into me >> [snorts] >> um to be able to do that. And now my father passed away uh 8 years ago. man. >> Uh my mother and I have had a terrific time being able to grow into the second half of life. We always joke about it. He's like, "Daddy had the first half, I got the second half." >> And u you know, it's interesting to see her raise, you know, cuz you know, when you have kids, it don't stop when they get 18. It starts because that's when you're working on the person that you've made. Until then, it's still development. It's a developmental process. >> That's real. And so, you know, I I tell people all the time, if you only got one kid, that's great. Uh, but you really haven't really understood what it's like to have altruistic love for your children because you think your one kid is cool. You don't realize your kid ain't cool till you have another one. You realize, okay, that one ain't as cool as this one. And it ain't that you comparing them without love. It's just the fact that you start having a real world understanding of what you got out there. You know what kids you got to be like, hey, now you know your brother, don't let him do you got to leave some instructions for them. Yeah. Yeah. >> I got I got six kids, bro. So, >> six. >> Six, man. >> By the same woman? >> Uh, absolutely not. Uh, [laughter] >> but almost. >> Well, you know, I did 15 years. Uh, not in the penitentiary marriage. Uh, [laughter] >> got December. >> Yeah, man. So, to be divorced is something that I never wanted. >> Um, cuz nobody wants that when you start. Right. >> Exactly. >> But when you start framing up this family, I didn't understand. Now, you know, big boy lenses. you start looking back at what your parents, what you went through, your your understanding has to flip because now you know it wasn't about you. It was about what they had to try and deal with to get to being better versions of themselves. >> Wow. >> And so life has a way of giving you everything that you didn't understand back at you a different way. I got four daughters and two sons, so God has made sure I have uh been able to truly get a real well-rounded understanding of what it is. >> Man, I'm in Htown. Let me say this. And and I I didn't know me and you were going to be sitting down together. I was downstairs right where you was at when I found you here a while ago. Me and Zero sitting down chopping it up after our dope interview that's going to come out you guys. And he said, "Man, that's Billy." I said, "Billy, who is real?" I said, "Man, man, this [ __ ] me been linked up." He said, "Man, let me call him for you, man. It ain't the first time I done asked somebody about you. They just didn't call." You know what I'm saying? And he was trying to tell you, "Just call me." But you know, it's >> Yeah. Yeah. That's my dog. So, but at the end of the day, I just wanted to I wanted to make sure that we when I when when I when I heard your name last night, I'm like, I'm down here. This the most convenient time. Let's get him on Boss Talk. So, thank you for coming on the show. Shout out to Zero. Shout out to my boy Ali Sadique. Shout out to all the people that I've asked about you. Uh Ali, that that's the comedy world y'all got down here. So, man, beyond comedy, Ali Sadik is is like my older brother, bro. I don't say that loosely. Um Zero and Ali were there when I buried my father. um they knew him and had a relationship with them individually. Um and my father was the father to everybody. You know what I'm saying? He was one of them type of daddies. Like you know I got partners that were you know talk they can talk they was talking to my daddy on their own and the the the the wisdom that you get from good counsel is something that I I definitely feel like I've inherited because I try not to give people bad advice about their life or about what what could be done. I teach from the mistakes that I made because I made a [ __ ] ton of them. >> Man, who hasn't? And it's like, you know, when you, you know, real [ __ ] it just, it all comes together the right way. Ali was a hard person to come up under in comedy, >> man. >> I started my first time on stage, Ali was right there. >> He was watching, >> bro. So, Ali was hosting shows place called the Roxy in Houston, Texas. So, uh, you know, I have been seeing him around. He's my Masonic brother as well as we on campus. I'm, you know, at TSU, the Texas Southern University. >> And so, uh, I told him I had come back from being in New York. I was like, "Hey, uh, I want to do comedy." He said, "What?" "Oh, you want to do comedy? [clears throat] You want to come into my world?" "Oh, you ain't ready." Tonight, the Roxy be there 7:00. Everything he said [laughter] sounded like a bearable. >> Shout out to Ali, man. >> From an epic movie. [laughter] And so, I'm sitting backstage. You know, we Roxy real really a backstage just behind this big fish tank in in an actual stage. And so I'm sitting at the bar drinking drinks at the time. This this is 23 years ago. $1.75 you call it. >> I was drinking Incredible Hooks if you don't know. I remember Hypnotic and Hennessy $1.75. My tab was $8. I was smacked. I done bought three girls drinks. That's when they used to feed you at the club. You know, you come in here early. They got a lavish buffet. Yeah. You know, I'm eating them fajitas. I got the shrimp, you know what I'm saying? I back door, you know what I'm saying? They got the peppers, the dessert, the fruit. I had all that. Now I'm slamming them back. So I'm getting piped up. He's like, "Oh, don't get don't get too full. You got to go out there and perform." You know what I'm saying? I'm like, "Yeah." And so my P like, "Man, [ __ ] what you talking about. Get drunk." So I'm lit. The girls is in there. I'm hyp. I go up. I do my little five minutes. The girls laughing. Start talking about sex and [ __ ] You know, you start do when you drunk, you start humping the chill and [ __ ] Girls laughing. I I'm killing it in there. you get on the side. [laughter] >> And so I got off stage. I was like, "What's up? How I do?" He said, "That's that's buffoonery. >> That was some buffoonery, man. >> That's buffoonery. You want to learn about real comedy, meet me at my office tomorrow at 9:00 a.m. He gave me his business card. Shout out to uh GT, all the old key players, man." So, I met him at his office right there off of uh Richmond, and it's 9 in the morning. >> Yeah. >> Ain't [ __ ] funny at 9. 9 in the morning, >> hung over. So I get there, knock on the door, he opens the office door up, come on in, tell your first joke. He reading the paper. So all I'm seeing, he ain't even looking at me. This [ __ ] just turning the paper. I don't know if you know how loud the paper is in [laughter] the quiet room. So he turn the paper, tell your first joke. Uh so you know, shout out to the lad. Ain't no ladies here. Go out and go back in. Come back in. So I walk out the door, come back in again. And I do that for about 30 minutes. He hazing me. uh tore my whole confidence down. I I I I didn't think I was going to do it. And then we spent the rest of the afternoon, he passed me a newspaper. He said, "The important thing you need to be able to do is read this and be able to explain how it makes you feel to the world from your perspective." >> Wow. >> Everything you tried to tell me, everything you tried to do was what you thought somebody wanted to hear, not what you wanted to say. And it was at that moment I understood and I was locked in um for that ride and he spent the the next you know 20 years just shaping it and he don't stop you think you let me tell you something he hardest critic hard on each other that was trash and >> you got to think about it he I had him on my show uh here in Houston uh when I was here when I did him and Gary Owen and a couple more people and but he was he stood out. It was my first time really sitting down with him. But the thing that stood out was the fact that he been through some stuff like I had. >> And I [clears throat] think that was what made me really rock with him. But the thing that stood out with me the most was when he was leaving. He said, "Man, uh, congratulations on, you know, what you've accomplished." He the only person that said that to me, and I really believed him because of where we come from. >> Yeah. >> Does that make sense? >> It does. Because we went through a lot of the we could talk about some of the same stuff and I know he had to be there in order to say what he said. We talk a lot of stuff. >> Part of human experience is about being able to identify with people who you feel have shared your similar experiences. >> Correct. That was it. I know when I talk about me overcoming addiction, me overcoming traumatic loss, me winning continually, there's Oh, there's also, if you didn't know, for people who are at home, um there is a a feeling of of of emptiness with continued success without true elevation of personal self. >> Wow. >> See, that's where it's is real ugly. When you winning and it's like, I can't stop winning, but it don't mean [ __ ] to me. >> Yeah. >> Don't mean nothing. >> Yeah. It's like people have a lot of money and say, "I don't care about any of this cuz I'm really not happy." >> Man, you know, I I love when people say that because now, you know, they're trying to find themselves. You know, it's just like uh Alexander when he was he was, you know, was dying and his request was to show me with my empty hands. Well, why do you want to show me with empty hands? And he was one of the greatest rulers that was of that of his time. But he said he wanted to show that I'm leaving with nothing. That's it. That's it. I'm leaving with none of this [ __ ] So yeah, bro. Like me and me and [snorts] y'all done fought together, fought with each other, fought against each other, you know, argued, loved each other, cried, lived and and traveled the world. And I learned so much and I continue to learn so much from him. And I' I've taught him stuff. And then uh man, you know, just that's family, bro. It's And it's it's just like that same thing with Zero. It's just like, hey, bro, like we once you have those relationships with people and I'm thankful for, you know, what Houston has and I'm, you know, tote my little flag for Houston for the moment because our community might be very small, but very close-knit. Who are the of course Ali is the one for me number one >> really right now if I had to make a list he number one and it's sad to say that because but no but he peaked when after I interviewed him and really start for me I I had to take make it personal because I watch a lot of comedians you know what I mean but >> for me first Texas thing that already but I didn't realize you know we went to his comedy show that was her first ever comedy show when she came to the United States Aliad weeks and and and the first time we ever went to a comedy show together was here. So it this was way before any of this >> and one of our friends took us as a guest with him. He knew Ali and so I was like how the hell we getting in here for free? That's what kept messing with me cuz back then I didn't know what the hell was going on. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like what who he know? You know what I'm saying? Like how how the hell he do this, you know? So basically, when you look at it from that perspective and see the comedians out of just the south, cuz I I I kind of I'm I'm messed up demographically, you know what I'm saying? I I'm real messed up. I look at us down here and the Mason Dixon line. I look at how how it's a difference to me. But that's just me. But anyway, when you look at him, you who else in Houston am I forgetting that? I know Gary Owen is here but he you know he from C. >> Well when I say who what other communities >> so let me let me give you some back some backdrop of just understanding because I know this also is just a you know referencing point so people who might be listening may not know um so we'll talk about the most recent taping we did uh we did the 20 years celebration of the Jive Turkeys >> okay >> uh Jive Turkeys is um a crew of comedians that was started in a in a in an act of charity. We initially when the improv, not this improv in Houston, but the first version of the improv in Houston, uh when the improv concept came out, blacks weren't having nights like that. >> Okay? So, we talking a long time ago. So, we would have to all get together to do nights. Well, Ali had a night and then he got a charity night that he did for Thanksgiving. People would come home for Thanksgiving because those were the days that they would we got, >> right? >> So, it was uh Marcus Dwy. >> Yeah. Shout out. He been on the show. Terry Gro Gross man. >> I don't know Terry. You have to >> Gross Man. Listen, man. Terry is a beast. >> Beast mode, >> man. BT's com five times. >> Really? A he from Houston. >> From Houston, Texas, man. Um he, you know, he started before Ali. Uh Dave Lawson, >> another dominant force, man. Multiple times on Comic View. Uh you know, Kier Spates, he's on the Steve Martin show. >> Really? Yeah. What's his name again? >> Junior. >> Oh, Junior. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> But his his name is Kier Spates. And um you know, honorable mention, shout out nephew Tommy. Yeah. >> From Houston. You know what I'm saying? >> I ain't no nephew Tommy. Oh >> yeah. Yeah. Nephew Tommy right here in Houston. Also my frat brother. He you know plays me in the fraternity Cap Alphasai. >> Wow. >> Uh he was the one of the charter members at Texas A&M University that the charter the capital chapter out there from my chapter at TSU bet up. So like for me coming into it these guys are the pillars. You know, you got your Al Freemans and and and other guys who were, you know, a little bit older, but that was my core core uh group of people. People don't realize this about hip-hop. Marcus Wy, uh Keelin Farooq, John Tucker, aka Dr. T. Uh these guys were on the forefront for starting Rap City, the basement, that show as well as Hits from the street. really all produced at BET and ideas and IP that was developed and produced by guys from Houston. So this has been going on like that influx when I got to college Marcus Wy was my professor and then after we got out of class I'm at the comedy club cuz we doing touring together. So imagine you in college and your professor is your homeboy. >> Wow. >> And so you know I I that was how we got down the newer class. There's a lot of funny guys here. Shout out L Darl. Uh I put together a core group of comedians that's like the second class dirty sexy funny. There's man so many funny guys that's here. Ray etc. Leroy the third man. Shout out Ben Jackson that damn Monty. You know these guys you you know Lotto Marie very funny female. There are cores of people that are right here that are dope doing stuff. You know Eddie B, comedian Eddie B. You see him doing stuff on online with like teachers like massive tour selling out you know teachers not bro killing right here from Houston. >> Wow. All right here and you know because there was you know wasn't a lot of us initially we had to be better because we would be the features. We would be the people to go out. I mean, when I was able to go, you know, develop my online presence and go viral with my videos online, you know, that's where Ali and I were now. We're both out headlining. I I was never his true opener to go tour with him. I went out a couple times out on the road initially, then I went off to do my own thing, but I still had to get the toutelage, you know, because that's how the information work. You still get mentored, you know, you still get some. You going to get that, you know, if you do something, you going to get the phone going ring like, "Hey, so what was that [ __ ] you did?" Uh, what's up with that? That could be better. And then it's going to be like, hey, I'm proud of you. This [ __ ] dope. You know, when when somebody is honest with you, the positive [ __ ] means more because it's not a false sense of something like for you to practice a bad habit. Like, he was really really hard on like, hey, I couldn't do all I couldn't do no music jokes on stage. I couldn't steal no material. I w I couldn't not be authentic and true to myself. He would always tell me like, "Hey, bro. Uh, I know this not real cuz you ain't that ain't who you are." Don't talk about this [ __ ] that I just seen go on with your baby mama, smacking you in the middle of the parking lot cuz you was grabbing on somebody butt and you know she is still in the parking lot like Yeah, that that happened one night. We not together now. This long. >> Why would you do something like that? >> First of all, it's called tequila. Um [laughter] I and and and for to the for the record, we wasn't together, but we was together. You understand? Like you know, I don't know why they even try to tell you that we breaking up cuz I know we break up. You still going to be mad if you see tomorrow. So you like that's why I already believe in that. >> It's a process. >> Yeah. You Well, I'm going to go. You know, she she did I'm about to leave. I thought she was going I'm got on stage. I'm killing. I I did a good job that night. So I'm out there with the boys. You know what I'm saying? I see the little the little chick. She talking to me. I'm showing out. I grabbed on her, but she like you see how his ass back here. I was like, "Yeah, I see it. [clears throat] I see it. I see it. Like look, I see it." And I I thought mama was gone. She gone. She had made that loop through the parking lot. >> And man, my reaction time was too slow. I was like [laughter] I'm still trying to figure out how she back. I thought she was gone. And she's like, "What's going on?" The girl was like, "What's going on?" And I'm still I can't let the butt go. That's the other part. My hands like >> So you were frozen with your hand up. >> Yeah, man. You know, you know how you laying back on the car, you know what I'm saying? He just reach back and do it. And so I'm looking and so the girl leaning on me, I'm like, "How's she back so fast?" And she smack she a say nothing to the girl. She smack bam. And so all the boys over there, they following laughing. >> Damo, >> they laughing their ass off of me. So I'm younger than them. So they they crying. [laughter] >> So I got to ask you, okay, so cuz you you How old were you when your parents divorced? >> 10. >> I was nine. That's crazy. >> So being that So you remember everything from before that? So you remember what it was life was like at home? >> That's why it hurt. >> Okay. So you hurt cuz it cuz cuz you don't know how to separate. You don't know how to man. You don't know [clears throat] how to disassociate the rejection and and separation and what that means like it don't matter when it happened 2026 1994 it man >> so they didn't sit you down and say this is what was happening all of that they just broke up. >> No like you got to understand even with sitting them down it's worse. I remember my sisters grabbing my mama on the leg like don't leave. It hurts. >> And it's like the reality is, you know, when people break up, especially your family, you you are tearing up something that God never intended to be separated. >> Explain to me how you go back to that child, that 10-year-old. Tell me how did you feel? I know, understand you said you felt bad, but did you feel like it was your fault? Did you feel like, you know, what was your feeling? What was the thoughts going through your mind? >> I think I'll give you I'll give you a couple of things. Um, there's things that I I tell people that they learn over time that single parents, if they're not careful, they can become codependent with their children. >> Okay? >> And the codependency extends past the normal relationship of parent to child. It becomes a soul time bond to where that that person or that child or vice versa is an integral part of their existence, their identity. >> Part of it is because you there raising this child. There's nobody who else is it. And then now your whole goal is based around what's going to be best for the child. If you're a decent parent >> and it's hard for any parent, male or female, to turn that off. And when you have two parents and a child has to go with one, even for any significant period of time, there is a period of feeling like you are being rejected. No, not even rejected. You are part of you is taken out. >> It ain't like they told you no. It's like I'm I've lost a part of myself. I've lost a part of what I know my life to be. And it's hard. And I and if I could encourage anybody, I be like, yo, try to find a way to make it work if you can, not just say being together to where you can get even if you got to separate for a while, but getting back to where the kid can see both of them. I guess you got to think about how how how beautiful it is for you guys to >> co-arent >> to, right? Cuz some kids have never can never say that they can remember seeing their mom and dad in the same place. >> So you didn't see that when your mom left. That was it. That was it for a long time. >> She was not in your life anymore. >> No. And it wasn't because she didn't probably want to be. It was, you know, choices was made. And then as I got older, how I dealt with the rejection was, hey, that's cool. I don't need that. >> Mhm. >> So then for me, my protruded understanding was and what my dad's understanding was was was warped. Like I think it's a it's a beautiful thing when a when a father pushes you, but you got to think about what it is for a father to push a son that gave a woman everything he could and it didn't work. >> We always talk about how mama felt, but what what what daddy felt like? Well, I gave her everything. She got what can I what can I do? >> So, >> did you ever sit down with mom at some point or other and ask her, "Mom, why did you leave?" I mean, you know, >> because all of this, cuz the reason why I'm asking all of this because at some point or the other, all of that in the past affected your relationships in the future. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, all of that. So, by >> definitely, we can definitely get through that cuz I mean, it makes you hyper. There's two things that you do when you lose like that and have that mother wound. I I even with my kids, I'm like, "Hey, my kids going to go visit their mamas right now because it's it's her visitation time. I got custody of five of my six kids." So, like, hey, go be with your mama, cuz I don't want to be the reason that you ain't around your mama. I'm not going to allow you to not go see your mama. No matter what you plausibly could form in your head, whatever me or her have got nothing to do with you. >> Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Back that up. You say you got custody of five of your six kids, man. Come on, dog. >> Hey, bro. >> Come on, man. God dang, man. That's heavy, bro. Like, like you don't see it. That's I'm going just tell you, you know, shout out Chat GPT. >> You don't see it. But hold on. I got to say this right here, but people looking in from out, especially females, I don't know what men think, but females seeing something like that, the first thing they would think is like, what happened to the Cuz mothers usually get first choice. So to say, what happened to the mom? Is she a deadbeat mom? Is she this that and the things I try to help people on is like, well, is that the is the first thing when you see a child with the mother? Is the father a deadbeat father? I mean ultimately when two people if they weren't together when they decided to have a baby or if they were together and then those circumstances changed the way it goes unless you have two very amicable mature elevated-minded parents that know how to navigate that. Uh which is why I say family foundation goes deeper than the first level of me the the the daddy the mama and the baby. It really goes back to that second layer of foundation. Grandmas, grandpas, aunties, and older uncles to say, "Hey, look, we see y'all navigating that. So, what we going to do is because we cool. Hey girl, I'm going to come over there and drop the baby out so you can see it." Because right now, while they at discourse, you got to find a way to get to the amicable point. And part of it for for us, what I've seen guys go through is in fear of the child support, in fear of the child support enforcement or in fear of going in a courtroom cuz as pe as black men who look like us, it don't matter what court it is, >> we just know you go in there, it ain't a for us. So the avoidance of that and then just the overall outlook of it don't matter male or female when people are hurt people hurt people bro >> man >> and it just say again >> hurt people hurt people and until you realize you're hurting people you know and you know I'm not saying not have your boundaries but man you know fellas if you can fight for your kids not and if fighting for them doesn't mean fighting against their mama advocate for yourself to be able to say, "Hey, I want to be able to continue this, learn, talk to Chad GBT." I joke about it on stage. Hey, Chad GBT helped me, you know, and I started learning more. I was already into technology and uh one of the things I started developing in this past year is uh develop an app for prosay litigants to be able to go up and be able to fight for themselves because bad legal posture, not having money for a lawyer, those situations make things worse because you know how we do. >> I ain't wait for no lawyer right now so I got to avoid it versus well let me just go in there. >> That's right. A lot of people don't even know that you can just go into the courthouse and say, "Hey, I don't have the money for an alert an attorney." If there's an enforcement, people don't even realize this. You know, if if you can't afford one, one will be provided for you if it's an enforcement. So, this is free child support advice. But then if you are wanting just some family opportunities, man, go down there, fill the form out if you care. >> This only for [ __ ] if you care. Fill the form out, tell them you don't have some the money and and go in there. Something Ali said when we had interviewed him was, you know, you don't hear about, he said he don't really he don't he don't know these dead beat dads. He said >> I know him cuz I don't I don't hang around. >> This is our rule. We don't mess with dudes who don't be in their kids life. >> That's right. >> None of none of us No, that's that's a hardcore rule. Like I don't I don't hang out now. I don't hang out with dudes that cheat on their wife. >> And that's real. I like the way how you say >> but but but but but n that we didn't realize that you know and if >> bro that's your wife what you can't we can't we not do we not we're not doing no dirt together. I'm not I'm not I'm not supporting that. We can't bring your other chick over here. >> That's right. And it ain't cuz I I'm I'm putting her over you. I I love you so much that I know that it ain't good for you to do this to yourself. Cuz in the event something happened to you, your wife ain't going to be the one I got to get the call from. Hey, he ain't doing too good. Come up here to the hospital. And if I met your wife, I don't want to be a person that was insupportive because I know what it's like to be married and to feel that. Cuz when you get cheated on, oh man, let me tell you something. And you married and everybody's an accomplice, bro. We knew me. So damn, you just going to let her do that? That's how you feel. >> That's right. And >> because that's that's what real um integrity is about. >> That's right. >> And and wherever you short at in integrity, wherever you you short at in honor, oh, the world is going to teach your ass. >> Damn right it is. I want to I I Great subject. I I got to I got I seen you rant when I first really took notice to you on the internet when Reggie Carroll passed away. That was my first time really just paying attention to you like that. And I was like, man, what is the deal? How were you connected to Reggie Carroll? >> So Reggie Carroll, >> RP to Reggie Carol, rest in peace, brother. Um, Reggie Carroll, when I moved here to Los Angeles, I left here. Uh, this was 2010. Uh, started working at the Foxhole with Jamie Fox. Uh, and I signed Fox King Management, his management company. Uh, Marcus King was my manager. Carol. Um, when I got out there to LA, I was hosting a night at the J-spot and you know Reggie KB from Baltimore. So he Hey, what's up? You know >> um and interestingly enough, Reggie Carroll is also amazing. >> I didn't know. Okay. >> So, um, we linked up. Ali knew who Reggie was before that. He was like, "Hey, man. Look, look out. Reggie Carol, look out for him. He going to be up there tonight." Our brother on the square. I met Reggie Carroll that night. Um, and so I was hosting and next week I'm hosting and I'm roasting some [ __ ] in the crowd, right? Uh, this LA cuz anything else over here cuz we we on y'all head cuz that's >> And [clears throat] so >> you got a damn P. >> Reggie walking through the J spot pulls the shirt up or what? Or what, brother? Or what? So the dude looked back, looked over, I'm on stage. I'm like, "All right, well, it look like this [ __ ] happening." So, we get out. There's only one way to get out. We to get out the J-spot, you got to go down these two flights of stair concrete stairs. You go out into this little concrete patio. It's in a upstairs shopping center. You got to go down two flights of stairs, but you in Englewood like you right right there. So, bro, we get we going down the stairs. Whenever you see [ __ ] congregated at the bottom of the stairs, >> it ain't good. Like, all right. And now, you know, I know this address. So I I'm like, "All right, let me go ahead and take my blazer off. This [ __ ] got to go. It's f to go down." So I had a little, you know, little chick with me at the time and I was like, "All right, take my blazer and go to the car." So she start walking to the car. I start rolling up my sleeves. I'm like, "Fuck." It's like, "Well, see what happened." Hey, cuz want to say, "I feel it was hella disrespectful for you to sit up here and be talking about me like that." And so I'm like I'm looking I'm looking to the left, looking to the right. I'm like I'm trying to figure out who all is with this [ __ ] So I'm looking at his hands and I say, "Okay, this my one chance cuz I got to get to this car." I see about three of them. I know walking through there just trying to blow it off it ain't going to be cuz then you going to try and rush me. I was like, "No, I'm going have to go ahead and and and put the, you know, smoke bomb out." If [ __ ] don't know what the smoke bomb out, you got to haul off and fire on a [ __ ] for we call it. >> Can't even cuz I got to I got to see who want to fight. >> Yeah, that's You stole on the [ __ ] You stole ON THE [ __ ] >> YOU stole on [ __ ] That's what we call that. >> So he talking and uh soon as I hit him, other dude is right here swinging. So now we swinging. One dude down, one rumbling and man, let me tell you something. He was I'm in these [ __ ] dress shoes. I'm sliding back course and I'm like, "Fuck." I'm in my head. I'm like, "Fuck, I'm I'm slide, but I can't fall." And I felt my my footing wasn't getting, you know what I'm saying? But I I I got this dude, the other dude that's over here, he looking and I don't know, you know, I don't know if you know what when he got the Birdman hands, he looking for the fall. So the [ __ ] rush, kick, and he going to be the [ __ ] to do that. >> And out of nowhere, here come Reggie Carol like a [ __ ] uh ape. That [ __ ] came, he ain't hit nobody. The [ __ ] came with the pistol and smacked that [ __ ] right there in the face with THE GUN. >> DAMN. FIRE. He down. This [ __ ] trying to get up. Fire. All of this leaking. >> He ain't playing no game with the [ __ ] >> And so Ready said, "Yeah, [ __ ] No, [ __ ] Let's move. Move below. I'mma pop his ass." And I I stopped and dude took off running. Reggie chasing the [ __ ] with the gun. Damn. When I tell you after that it was nothing else Reggie Carroll could ever say brother that he needed. [ __ ] we was locked and he laughing. So he chased the dude across the street and he came back. [ __ ] ass [ __ ] didn't want to do nothing. He ain't want to do nothing [ __ ] ass [ __ ] I was going to let off on his head. [laughter] Yeah, he was handing the [ __ ] till he start sleeping. I was trying to see if he was going to get him cuz I the first [ __ ] [laughter] but the other [ __ ] was going to get you, bro. So I had to go ahead little brother. I was going to let him get you like that. He started laughing. I'm like I'm cool but he laughing like big smile like yeah little brother come on let's go in there and get to it. So J Anthony at the top of y'all [ __ ] always got to tell my [ __ ] [laughter] I said Jay I wasn't going to do it. He Reggie was like no no no Jay they was trying to rush little brother man. They was going to rush you. Like I I seen getting with him and saw [ __ ] We went back in there, me, Jay, uh, and Reggie, man. And we we we start drinking and the next week, you know what I'm saying? >> Left your girl in the car by herself. >> Hey, man. Let me tell you something. [laughter] You stay in that goddamn car. You stay in that goddamn car. >> She probably got came back after a while. >> She didn't She didn't come out the car cuz this was so funny. And this was what made it it made the story even better. And we talking about cheating. >> Yeah. I wasn't supposed to be up there with her cuz my ex-wife, we weren't married yet. But at the time, >> y dating. >> Yeah, we was we was dating. We was right before we was about And that's what kind of started sealing the deal. I was like, I can't be out here with these LA [ __ ] [laughter] >> [ __ ] going to sit in the car, see me getting uh she ain't come try to do nothing. >> You know what I'm saying? The text was like, "No, y'all ain't going to be no jumping." You know what I'm saying? >> Yeah, that's right. >> I That was it. And I went back to the car, let her out, took her where she was going. But man, look, to be real though, like at that point, Reggie from then on, we was locked in. Um, >> brother, >> and he was one of the real conduits with uh him and Ali, but with Red Grant. Um, he was a conduit with my first introduction, ever, ever meeting Mon'nique. Um, he was that that that glue guy that that moved through. And then um you know, of course, he had always been super solid with Cat. Um and and and for me, we look at each other like family. Everybody, even the people that I was mad at. >> Yeah. >> And I say at this time that, you know, justice is is what it is. The truth going to always come out. It just hurt me because I knew how loyal of a rider he was >> and I knew that um >> if you ride for people like that, if you a rider cuz people I'm sure got similar stories with Reggie. >> Yeah, my boy shout Scruncho. He always tell me Scrunch told me good things about Reggie. Hey man, and and it was one of those things to be like it was hurtful cuz in your mind you just thought of Reggie as he he was cavalier. He he wasn't he was a crash out. He really just was one of the guys that you want front line served in the military. You know what I'm saying? So to dismiss or discredit the value of who he was like he was nobody when he was an integral writer tour coordinator if he was he was he didn't give a [ __ ] if he was 67 was no ain't no weight class ain't no size and there certain people that I know that when it come to people that they love and care about ain't no way ain't no ain't no size you talking about >> did you but when this happened with him and and the way this thing I've seen the K uh Tasha K uh interviews. I've seen vaguely um things that people were saying. I seen um how you came off about it when you when it first happened. Do you regret being that vocal the way you was on the internet? >> I don't regret any of it. All of it is very intentional and in most cases if you really know me, you know when I do that, you know it's something it's always three steps after that. It's it's always three plays. Um and it it worked well. So when >> I was offered money to settle to not speak >> really they tried to send they sent me a cease and decision said they was going to sue me cuz you know what you got to prove in defamation court was that it wasn't true. Wow. And so I welcome the lawsuit. Sue me. It ain't going to go how you think it's going to go. So when you think about >> what did did the story change with the way they said it happened from the time it happened to now from your account? [snorts] >> Oh I mean just letting things play out how they playing out now. Um of course the story changed. >> That's all. >> And of course the change of the story is is the reason why the indictment came. >> I seen the indictment come >> because if everything was as you said it was you wouldn't be indicted. But the but the prosecutor DA or whoever that guy was stood up there and said firstly >> well you know >> of whose involvement might have been there but it was so early in the game. I was trying to figure out where it was coming from like that. So >> you pay the you know the district attorney off in a small town to go say something cuz Billy Surel said something and you got to say these people that are trying to name people. It was like well you know [ __ ] what's the truth? The truth is very clear. It was his property. He was paying for it. It's adjacent to his home property. And the arguments that we have now because you know you can't stop a person from being a Kat William scene. >> Yeah. They It's like Dave Chappelle. You can't stop them. It's like [ __ ] Donald Trump. You can't stop a fan of somebody. I got fans. You ain't going to stop [ __ ] from [ __ ] with me if they [ __ ] with me, you know? So my goal wasn't about trying to tarnish the name of of a person versus just telling the truth. Well, if the truth happens to make how you look at them change, then that's not on me. >> Wow. Wow. See you it's it's not about who he who this person is as an artist or a icon but when that person becomes beyond reproach of a life of a human being well you got to be God and then that's idolization I don't participate in no idols I got I got limits bro >> as you should >> and and the people you name zero Aliad People have limits and if you if you don't have a a limit, first of all, I just can't [ __ ] with you. >> I got to ask you though, when he first came out, the guy he when he gets out of jail, the accused, the guy who claiming self-defense on that just got indicted. When he gets out of jail and he goes on this um press run and he's talking and he's saying what he's saying, what did you think about it? Oh, I knew the [ __ ] lawyer was terrible. I like I said, he's he definitely >> What the hell? >> Well, also, you know, a couple things that you just can tell from anything when you're dealing with a criminal situation that that where a murder is taking place. All right, let's say that the argument is the accused is in a position to where they they don't need to offer a statement. Great. I I've got music artists that have been accused of a murder that I've worked with and I understood the implications of the case, but I also wasn't attached to the the deceased. I wasn't there when the time of it happened. I had no understanding of it. So, like there's a guilt and a weight for the loss of a life. But when you talking about the loss of a life of a person that's a that's beyond the form of a loved one and then you have people who all share the same bond, we ain't talking about somebody that you didn't know. So it it really hurts to see that. And then it also changes when you sit up here and watch a person give a statement like that. I'm like, "Oh, this [ __ ] crazy. You f to go to jail." But he also might be slightly brilliant. Because once he started talking, you know what I knew? Cat ain't giving no more money. That's what I heard. He was that his resources is done dried up. And guess what? He going to talk. Department of Justice is a place where people go to go investigate when justice is not being handed out properly. >> Wow. >> And once you rattle those cages, it's like, well, what was my goal? My goal was simple. A really good friend of mine. Life was taken. I don't and still don't believe the situation is what they said. And you know, unfortunately, I'm not a judge. I'm not a jury. I'm not the court of law. But I am a [ __ ] with a brain. And when you see people doing crash dummy [ __ ] the desperation, that's when this truth start coming out. >> Wow. Wow. Man, they couldn't say nothing cuz it was an active investigation. Well, the [ __ ] that's that that that killed him is talking. So y'all still can't say, "Well, you know, rest in peace. I'm sorry." whatever hat. >> All right. Well, >> they never I've never heard nobody speak out and really >> cuz they can't because when you go into that box, >> all you got to do is go look at what he said. He put a whole rap song about all the [ __ ] being on dopers and weird [ __ ] was going on and he knew about it and it was money. >> Whose rap song? Oh. Oh, the the the boy. >> Yeah. And it it just, you know, for people >> he put a rap song out. I ain't listen to it. >> I'mma do this. >> Hey, look him up. Look into it. But all you got to do is hit Google. You'll see all of it. >> And [clears throat] it's dated like recent, >> man. You will see all of it. It's a whole That's the beautiful thing about Google. Get on track GPT. Ask about who it is that did this. It's going to give you a whole rabbit hole to go down. That way, we ain't got to waste the whole interview trying to explain it to people cuz they don't understand it. Like TH K did a two-part two-hour interviews. And there's more interviews coming out from the people who cleaned up the murder scene. >> Really? >> It's a lot, bro. >> Wow, man. I'm sorry. And to be honest, I've I've spoken to Cass's mother. >> You did? >> Yeah. Um, beautiful lady, uh, his brother Steven Williams. Um, great dude, man. Uh, I took him out on the road. We went out and did some tour dates. We got a couple other projects coming up and you know, so wait a minute. So, you're on you got dates with Cat Williams brother. He does comedy. >> Mhm. And he's also written he also was the person who did the artwork to draw a pimp named Slipback. >> Really? >> Yeah. You know, he was, you know, incarcerated for a time, got out and this dude and and this the part that as as as a human being, bro, it's your brother. Ask look and see what his brother said. But you met Cass Williams mother as well. Talked to her on the phone for 2 hours. We've talked multiple times and I told her I said, "Hey, look, I'm gonna take care of your son. I'm out on the road with him. Nothing gonna happen. He's safe." Um, I meant no disrespect toward your family, but like it's a different world, bro. >> Wow. >> You know what I'm saying? The diplomacy is real when you talk about the people who've poured into you and you don't credit them. You don't credit your source. Oh, you read 3,000 books. Well, who who told you to read them 3,000 books? How about your mama sat there? How about the fact that your father is a a brilliant worldrenowned chemist can make multiple chemicals from scratch? He was hired by the country of Jamaica to go out there and make perfumes and different scents and products by the government. He was hired to work in Haiti. They traveled with that that exposure of global understanding and intellect wasn't yours. Your voice, your tone, it ain't yours. That's your daddy. And and some of the stories is from your brother. >> Wow. Let me ask you something. >> So, like, what do we I don't I don't I'm not here to shun nobody. You know what I'm saying? But it's like, well, if you want to live in your family, live in your family. >> I got to ask you about something. And and and this is a little bit off base, but when you when you seen Tony Hcliffe talk about George Floyd and you being it down here in Houston, uh what did you think about that? Did you did you think it was a thing that when a roast cuz I was I'll be be real I'm not a comedian but I do know that that roast thing is is is something that oh everything on the table but it's not everybody's not talked about on a roast. Uh there's people who name start with a J with a S. They don't bring up nothing about them. The I I remember when uh what's his name? Nick Cannon brought up some stuff and different people brought up some stuff. It was somebody or Kanye brought up some stuff, but they don't talk about this in no roast. That ain't going to come up like that. >> I give you I give you I give you a twofold angle, >> okay, >> about those. >> But but this roast thing, but but I just I just was trying to understand why this was even something to bring up. And is this something I heard he do this all the time, this hitch cliff guy? >> What did you just do just now? Pretty much you just what did you did something very specific that was hard to miss. You did what? >> What? When I named the name? >> You did. >> Yeah. >> And guess what you did? You also said on his roast, it's free promo, dog. >> Free promo. >> It's hot chicken, bro. It's free. >> All we got to do is talk about a dead [ __ ] that everybody's supposed to care about as a martyr. They going to start talking about it. >> So they wanted it. >> Who talk more than [ __ ] We the pulse of of of culture. Correct. >> So when we start doing it, guess what? All the [ __ ] who didn't know now know now they got to go talk about it the way they be. You know how you box out a [ __ ] Just don't you don't mention them. >> Don't even mention >> because it's the tension. It's like well it's just like when your baby mama say ah [ __ ] you [ __ ] watch [ __ ] over here going to [ __ ] my brains. Okay. Have a good time with that. What I'm going to say? I'm going to give you some response. I got to give you some play with that. I mean like I know Tony. I knew Tony from when we first started uh All Def Digital. We had a show called Roast Me. >> Wow. >> Um guys in the classroom. Very funny, very dope. Big shouts out to the, you know, whole allde family. Tony came on there. He thought he say some wild [ __ ] Go there and watch the roast new dog. But that's his job. That's his position. That's his opinion. I I would have loved to be there cuz I would have said, you know, Hitler was cooking the Jews like they had a hot cream crispy cream donut light on. What you going to say with me? I'm going do this [ __ ] all with you all day. Uh what y'all Hey, Tony. Welcome welcome back from you [ __ ] two white dudes in a cave. It don't bother me. Hey, we'll go there. You know, [ __ ] you ain't going to hold back. >> Yeah, [ __ ] Helen Keller and and Frank. And that [ __ ] was pretend. And so that's not real. So it's like when when do you stop when you don't when the person who wins is a person who don't care pretty much. So [ __ ] why we being for us as [ __ ] to go through what we going through and for our ancestors going through what they going through, they would say we was soft as [ __ ] to fold up and be sensitive like that. Cuz [ __ ] ultimately knew, man, all I got to do is just get free and get some money. I don't even got to deal with y'all. And that's where we at. Like, okay, tell your joke. I'mma tell mine. We're gonna see who going who they gonna cut off this episode cuz [ __ ] I got plenty of them to go. Uh, you know, and and and with that understanding and sentiment, you start understanding the extremists in in our media world who who take certain positions because they're aerally looking at it from a different way. Some people at the first part, like even me, I didn't understand Charleston White's position on certain positions until I understood that he had to cut through the noise. Like I know when I do certain things where it's going to go. I know how to hit the ball over the fence if I want everybody to see it. I've been doing comedy 23 years. The first time you saw me was when I talked about that situation. >> Correct. Well, that means that the algorithm, because we know how the algorithm works, it's not pushing me killing doing viral videos or me working with Nick Cannon, uh, uh, uh, Kevin Hart, uh, uh, me being on on the morning radio in 60. Those things aren't the things that are going to cut through the algorithm. They know because they listening and they're trying to push you that negative [ __ ] >> Why? That's how the algorithm works. I mean, come on, bro. I mean, you know that. Yeah, but do you have to do it just what you mean? Do you have you know how the algorithm works, but if but hard work and dedication, you do have those people out there who basically like I would even say I would say Ali, but he got his thing. He got his thing. >> Wait, wait, wait. So, let's let's let's reverse engineer Ali. [snorts] >> Ali at the time had been doing comedy 19 years. Self-produced his own standup special. Finally, I first self produced my first standup special at the improv. Me uh I did a show a stand up special Dirty Sexy Funny. Ali is intro with me as the host of that. Um shot in the Houston Improv. Come back 12 years later. He shoots Domino Effect one and two. >> That's right. >> He presents this to com uh to HBO. They take the deal. He's the first comedian to ever self-produce the special. He goes on a press and promo market and run. He gets on Joe Rogan. They ask him these questions which are I wouldn't say slanted but just a question to understand where he stands on the line but what you of course you would cuz it's Joe Rogan. His audience needs to know what side are you left or right woke or not? Like how do you stand? Ali says his positions on a few things. People who listened to that show took that back to HBO and was like no we got to get this [ __ ] out of here. They denied putting out the special. He decides, well, [ __ ] it. I done already done the press. I done already self-produced [ __ ] I'm put the [ __ ] on my YouTube channel. But it started with the negative part of what they did from what he said to use that to cut through a three-hour interview. And you take >> It's funny. He just Man, we just talked about this yesterday. So, >> we just talked about this a day before yesterday. >> When you think about that, it landed where it needed to land cuz it was already a warm place for him to land at. It was already populated as a suggested video that people will watch because once these things in these boxes are unchecked, you're going to unlock the open viewership. Hands down. Wow. Wow. I He He just We just talked about that. It's funny. I don't be knowing certain things. I I'm a call I'm a dude that's going to call and just ask talk to you about anything. And that's who I am because if I I ain't going to talk about you if I can't talk to you. I'm that guy. And I love talking to >> and I much rather talk about the people I love to their face. >> There you go. That's it. You got it. >> I don't [ __ ] with you. I don't >> I don't But if I'm a dog, I'm rock with you cuz that what real ones do. But at any rate, >> I there's some things that be happening. I don't know. I'm so I come into this I just told you five years ago. I ain't really I I come in this from the street. So at the end of the day, all this is it's good, but I never was a comedian. I never was a rapper. I never I'm just a regular dude that just got a microphone and know know a little bit like about electronics. And the thing that you have is what I say it works because you have two very fundamental things that are going to push you through every time. You have a consistent message, a consistent audience, and you have a consistent partner who is working with you behind it that's keeping it going. >> That's right. When you have somebody that's pushing you forward, you're gonna hit every [ __ ] time because in my in in my single years, it it's great. But, you know, if I could be married with a partner that would push it, we can we can work this way. I would prefer that. I mean, even in the media, it's like, "Oh, him white. Oh, safe. Yeah, let's go over there and do that." It's a cuz now all of the [ __ ] that you got to be worried about about a person's character, integrity is validated with the presence of your woman being right there now. And then behind closed doors is the consistent push of she not going to let you get off. Not going to let you not do this cuz she basing what y'all doing and building. Y'all got a plan. You told her this was my idea. She said she gonna run with it. Now y'all running with it. Now it's gonna keep working. That's just the thing on stage. It's going it's going to be the thing. You starting to see these comedians older go get younger women who want to believe in a dream >> because at the end of the day, if you got a partner who don't want you to do it, baby, I I I got to make a decision at a certain point >> cuz you either got to forgive me for whatever the [ __ ] I did and we got to get on track. But this is what I do. >> I'm going ask you one of my wife's questions. How is it, this would be something she'd ask. How? And she probably I don't know if she would ask this, but how is it for you dating and have being a father of five children and trying to figure out how to trust somebody to even be a part of that? >> I'm not dating, bro. >> Was that one of your questions? Like, was that pretty good? >> That's That's a good question. >> Thank you. Okay. >> I I'm [laughter] I'm not I'm not dating, bro. I'm not in a position to do that. Um >> you focused on family? >> I'm focused on family. I'm focused on fixing my family. >> That's all. Um, and you know to be to be super real, it's like I got un unfinished business, unfinished ties that I have to to solidify and work out. >> Carry that into other relationships. >> I'm not and right now the last thing I'm looking for is a woman. >> See, that's I'm not trying to go out and do, you know, >> I like respect. my my youngest my youngest son's mother, we we our relationship most recently was the one that was the one that wasn't working, >> right? >> And so I have to be I like as always, you have to be honest and and understanding like, okay, [ __ ] it's you. >> Mhm. >> Even if you're right, you're wrong, [ __ ] >> That's how like me. That's >> hard though. See, that's hard because see a soft [ __ ] gonna fight it. When I'm in my softer stage, I'm like, "Hey, man, you tripping." But also, everybody, watch this. If she if if your girl tripping and tearing your [ __ ] well, why you chose her then, [ __ ] >> That's it. That's it. Cuz you if you just didn't choose her, she wouldn't be there tearing your [ __ ] up. >> And you compromised. >> Whatever you did, even if you felt like it wasn't worth it. It was like, well, she shouldn't be doing it. Well, why couldn't you see that before now? >> You compromised early on. If you went into that thing and stood on what you believed in and stood strong and really stayed true to who you are in God, there's no reason why that would happen except for you permit it. I'm telling you that. >> But somebody else came on the show the other day and they were saying that men and women think different. When a woman see a man, first thing they should think about is relationship, husband, all of that. When a man see a woman thinking about just one thing. >> That's not true. That's not true at all. >> And that's unfortunate. Well, >> but you hear a lot of people say that. >> And and that's what I tell people all the time. Consider the source when you get the information. >> That's right. I agree with you. >> I mean, does this person represent what you feel like that caliber would be for me? I would say absolutely not. >> I couldn't say that about you because of a person who already like what you've been through now. There's no way in hell he looks at somebody and and be like, "Oh, I just want to be with and we fall in love." >> His flesh is not weak. >> That ain't no he got to focus on he focused on family. So, he been through some stuff. >> I'll tell you this much. If a [ __ ] can beat cocaine, [ __ ] is not that difficult. [laughter] Let me just say that right now. You know, once you get >> I feel you, big dog. >> People don't live. Cocaine [laughter] get you more [ __ ] It's like you'll be surprised. You out here taking these women out to eat. All she wanted is some powder. >> That's real. >> She would ride around them pretty girls. You like Look at you [ __ ] at home. Y'all sitting there, man. If I can take you out to eat, we going to want to go out to eat. They want to go >> They want that dope. >> That's right. >> Get get a get a eightball, [ __ ] >> That's right. [laughter] already rock crush her down do whatever you want to do around in your car whatever all day and she'll phone a friend [ __ ] she got some dope we coming over there >> that's right that's right that's the way it go you got it >> and all you got to do is sit there long enough and you know >> everything going to happen >> oh they need it's time for some dick >> there you go exactly right >> it has it has the opposite effect on men than it does on women but you just talked about life and and see and that's why what you said don't what you There you go. But this is life and and that's why that's a vague statement about >> just the raw kinetics of in your flesh I won't >> you know what I'm saying? >> Well first of all I've seen so many so many so much. >> So now wild Nick Canon handpicked some of the the baddest women around the world. I'm not trying to objectify them. I'm just saying if there was a time when you was to be like, "Hey man, when you listen to your parents talk about, Ben, I had some gals back in the day." Then you go look and see the girls that they had. I like, "Hey man, what was you thinking about?" >> Wow. >> You got to understand they the average relationship wasn't meant to be tested to this degree. >> That's real. You got a question. >> What I was trying to get to is when I was asking and I'm about to wrap it up. So, we got >> Yeah. asking about your past and all of that. With all the things that you've seen from the past and the failed relationships, I'm going put it like that, that you've had >> and realizing a lot has to do with you. What are the steps that you are taking to correct you to be able to move forward and have a successful relationship? >> Man, you know, the first thing I had to do is always the same. You have to sit down and be honest with yourself. >> That's real. That's always the first thing when you trying to understand what's going on. Some of it you already know what it is. >> You know, I knew part of one of my relationships that wasn't working was because my relationships and the the the the back and forth with the kids was taking up so much energy because there was no rules in place. >> That's real. Sometimes even in the best situation where you got the best relationship, you you still need ground rules because the ground rules are subjective to what a person feels. And you could say, "How could you feel that way? That don't make no sense. You delusional." But in another human being's mind, that's as real as it can be. Of course, I'm thinking this way. How could you hear me tell you I feel a way about this and not care? Because in another human being's mind, what you're asking for and what you're asking of me is so far from reality that I can't indulge in it because I don't even want to go down that road the world will take you. So when you get to any of it, for me, my steps was being honest with myself, making sure that all of my unfinished business was finished. And then and only then is it have you taken time to do what's best for you to love yourself enough? >> Come on. >> To 100, [ __ ] And that ain't just like spoiling yourself. That is just like, man, you know what? Give yourself some grace. Give yourself some time. I've had a hellified set of years, but guess what? There's no Dark Cloud. I ain't sad. I ain't crying. I ain't mad at nobody. I'm not mad at nobody. >> Comedian Billy Surel's been on Boss Talk 101. He not playing no games. >> We outside >> and he going to be a No, he going to be a regular. No, he going to be a regular on Boss Talk, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, man. Hey, I gotta ask you this before we go. Top three comedians of all time. Dead or alive. Any genre. >> Any genre. [laughter] I say music so much. Top three comedians of all time. >> Prior. Okay. >> Okay. Number two. >> Chappelle. >> Easy. >> Alisa D. >> I knew that. >> I knew that would come, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, man. Hey guys, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 with a bosish talk. >> And we out. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. Yeah, we going to talk. We going to have fun. We be on fire. We be lit lit lit.