Alex o Connor Becomes Christian OVER Muslim

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You can stay accountable and see who prayed or not. All right, guys. Welcome back to the [clears throat] channel. If you're new, my name is Bobby. Guys, Alex O' Conor, formerly known as Cosmic Skeptic, now says that he rather believes Christianity than Islam. This is truly what overly philosophizing about life leads you to. So, first he doesn't believe in God and now he starts believing in a man god that died for your sins rather than simply believing in one God alone. Yeah, that makes sense. Guys, let's jump into the video, but before we do so, as always, if you enjoy my content, leave me a thumbs up. Subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. Check out the links in the description box below to further support my work. And now, with no further ado, let's have a look. >> We can explain the complexity of biological organisms, but we can't explain the the complexity of the finetuning of the universe, those constants. That's something that's outside of our purview, you know, and that's still a mystery. But I would just remind people to to to keep in mind that there can be things which are inconceivable and yet are the case like the reducibility of computers for the person 500 years ago. They literally just wouldn't be able to comprehend what you're talking about because even to be able to organize like metallic objects on that microscopic level for any reason would have been impossible to them. let alone doing it in such a way that brings about a perfect representation of somebody across the globe who can then talk back to you. They they just would not believe you. They would not believe you. And yet it can be done. There are greater things in heaven and earth than I dreamt of in your philosophy, you know, >> which would always consistently point me toward the divine. But um what would it take for you to become a theist? Would it take increased understanding? Would it be an argument? Would it be some kind of scientific proof, you know, on some kind of, you know, molecular level? Or >> that's a question that they would always ask Richard Dawkins back in the day. What kind of proof would be sufficient for you that God exists? And Richard Dawkins would answer that ultimately even if God himself would show up, this wouldn't be enough proof for him because it could be an alien. who knows what this is. So therefore, no proof in the world would be sufficient for Richard Dawkins. Very disingenuous, of course. Let's see what Alex has to say. >> Some kind of string theory or unified theory or or something like that, you know, being proved that kind of has a light bulb go off for you. Or would it be some kind of lived experience, some kind of transcendent experience that you had with either psychedelics or falling in love or through tragedy or a vision? Um, or would it take some combination of all of those or could it ever ever possibly happen to to you or someone like you? >> I think it would be the second. I think it would be an experience for a few reasons. The first is that I think that the most plausible of traditional religions is probably a a form of Christianity because I think it has the best historical evidence, especially if you don't need to swallow the idea that Jesus is God. He's just like all this kind of I think that's kind of plausible and within Christianity it's quite clear that the way to God is through experience. >> Why Christianity over his >> this makes no sense at all. So okay first and foremost I want to give him some credit. He said that he wants to have some sort of experience and that then would lead him to being a theist potentially. I cannot disagree with this because for me it was experiential as well. Matter of fact, back in the day, I think 7 years ago or so, I had certain psychedelic experiences that showed me the nature of the universe, if you will, and that that there is a God for sure. Then I was looking for a framework to put my experiences into something that I can use in this world. And this then further led me into the exploration of religion in this world. Anyways, he says that there's the best historical evidence for Christianity. What does that mean? There is historical evidence for the church of Christianity. Sure, there is historical evidence. But is there really historical evidence of what Jesus said? Is there precise historical evidence word for word what Jesus said? No, we don't have it. So if you just compare Islam historically, historically Islam wins. We have the Quran that is dated back to the lifetime of the prophet and we have the hadith. It's not even a competition. And then he goes on to say that if you believe in Christianity, so basically based on the life of Jesus Christ, based on that Jesus Christ actually was a historical figure, but then you don't believe that Jesus Christ was God. Okay? Then you don't believe in Christianity because in Islam, we do believe in the historical figure of Jesus Christ and we do not believe that he is God. So you're confirming Islam here. If anything, >> is God. He's just like all this kind of I think that's kind of plausible. And within Christianity, it's quite clear that the way that people come to God is through experience. >> Why Christianity over Islam? >> I think it has better historical case for the for the crucifixion, resurrection of Jesus, both of which Islam denies. >> So you would need a miracle like a resurrection to kind of prove to you the divine truth of Christianity. >> No, I I think that if the resurrection of Jesus happened as it was recorded, that would be a pretty good indication that there's something really special about this Jesus guy and we should be taking what he says very seriously. uh like Muslims will say the same thing that Jesus is a very serious guy who needs to be taken seriously but they don't believe he was crucified. So if we knew that he was crucified and resurrected we'd know we'd need to pay attention to him and in a way that Muslims have misunderstood because they don't believe in that. >> Okay so first and foremost he talks about historical evidence. It is true that there is historical evidence. I would claim that it's not good evidence but anyways there is historical evidence for the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. That is factual. But there's absolutely zero evidence for Jesus Christ rising from the dead. Obviously, no historian would ever claim that some sort of supernatural event took place 2,000 years ago where a guy rose from the dead. You have zero evidence historically speaking for the resurrection. What you do have is the New Testament where Paul proclaims that there were 500 eyewitnesses that saw it. But the reality is Paul never met Jesus and he certainly wasn't there when the resurrection supposedly took place. So there's obviously no historical evidence whatsoever. But now I want you to take a step back and be sincere about this. Islam according to the Quran declares that Jesus Christ wasn't crucified. But here's the big caveat. It appeared to them as if he was. So now if it appeared to the people of the time as if he was crucified no matter what happened there if it appeared to them as such what would the historical evidence be obviously people would then report that he was crucified let's have a thought experiment just a hypothetical let's assume the government is malicious let's just assume that and the government wants to stage an alien invasion for whatever purpose maybe to usher in a totalitarian observation state who knows right? It's just a hypothetical example here. And for that purpose, the government uses high-tech holographic technology, right? They're projecting aliens and spaceships into this world. They're staging explosions and whatnot. And for us, it seems real. So now, people in the media will document that there was an alien invasion. And let's assume we don't find out the truth about this. For 2,000 or 3,000 years, in our historical records, we will have recorded that there was an alien invasion. I'm giving you this example because Islam simply dictates that it appeared to the people as such. Yes, there was a crucifixion taking place and people believe that Jesus Christ was crucified and therefore Islam is not against the historical evidence, the historical proof if you will because certainly people would have recorded that Jesus Christ was crucified. But God is revealing in the Quran that he certainly was not. Indeed, he was raised up to God. So the Romans and the Jews did not succeed over Jesus Christ. They did not really crucify him. He didn't had to go through this. A matter of fact, if you go through your Bible, you will see many instances where God saves people from catastrophes. >> Of course, I don't believe that Jesus did rise from the dead. I I think that there's better evidence for that as a historical case for this like worldly religion than there is for >> other world religions. Okay. Um, I might be wrong about that, but I do think personal experience is the way to bring it about. Even in the Christian tradition, people come to belief through experience. The disciples see the miracles. Jesus himself arguably is a visionary when he sort of at his baptism, he sees the voice of God, the dove. >> And interestingly, the only place, if it's not just a vision, I think the only place where the trinity is all physically present, you have the voice of God, >> the voice of God, the father vibrating the air. So the voice, you got the dove as the Holy Spirit, and you have the sun there as well. They're all like physically present in in this space. Paul's vision of Jesus is a bright light. >> And Paul also elsewhere talks about going up into the seventh heaven and having these visions. >> It seems like there's something about experiencing the living Jesus that brings people to that brings people to faith. The other problem is that if God does exist and is the kind of God that wants you to know he exists, it'd be a very weird place for him to hide his existence. like in some in like premise 48 of one of Ed Faser's 200 premise arguments for the existence of God. If I'm going to turn a page and turn it and then go like, "Ah, there there he is. I found God." >> Mhm. Firstly, it tells me that like am I supposed to think that people who are like me, who are convinced by the same kinds of things as me, but don't have the time or the education to read an argument like that because they're too busy being a single mother bringing up a family somewhere and they haven't got time to just sit around reading books that they're not going to meet God because, you know, they have to sit down and read this 200 syll 200 premise syllogism. that would seem totally unfair and like academically elitist which doesn't seem in keeping with the character of God. I would expect that the thing that convinces you of god God's existence would be a religious experience of some kind >> but that if you do want to do the syllogisms and the arguments God's there too of course because God's everywhere and if you're interested then then yeah you'll find him there but that's not what it takes to to believe in God. Do you know what I mean? >> No it doesn't it should be sufficient if you hear the message of a god that god is only one uniquely one. There is nobody in comparison to him. He is the creator of the universe. He is the creator of time and space. And only he alone should be worshiped. That could then be rationally, philosophically, logically further investigated and you would always come to the same conclusion rather than hanging an elephant head behind you. >> But then it's also true that maybe God just meets you where you're at. Like if you are an analytical person who likes argument and debate, then that's where God will place himself for your discovery. But if you're not, if you just care about having a nice time with your friends and your family and loving each other, then that's where God will place himself to be discovered, too. So, it's possible that I would discover him in argument. But if I did, I don't think that would be a universal course that everybody should take. >> Well, and in my case, and in so many people's cases, God comes out of anguish. So, your only hope left is to be on your knees and throw out a lifeline. And you then have an experience of God because you feel like you're going to die if you don't have it. >> I haven't had a vision of the divine, but I've had an experience of the divine >> in terms of it. >> I was lost and now I'm found. I was blind and now I can see. I'd want something that is an experience that I can identify is an experience of God or or or you know divinity let's say that is distinguishable from what I would expect to feel if I were like >> okay what people don't really understand is and this is something that I learned through psychedelics back in the day is that in order to have an experience you have to shut off your rational mind so you will never have an experience as long as you stay rational analytical it's completely impossible in order for you to have a spiritual experience in Sufism is called fara In Orthodox Christianity, they called this nosis. You have many different descriptions in Hinduism and Buddhism about this as well. Nirvana, I believe. Anyways, the point of the story is to enter this mythical state, to enter this spiritual realm, if you will, you have to let go of your rational mind. So, as long as you can hear your own voice, as long as you're listening to your own thoughts, you will never have a spiritual experience at all. The quickest way to achieve a spiritual experience now. Well, maybe not the quickest way, but potentially the only way aside from psychedelics is if you sit in silence for prolonged periods. Go into nature, sit in silence, observe your thoughts, let them go. Essentially, meditative practices. If you don't have any type of meditative practice in your life, it is very unlikely that you will ever have a spiritual experience. A spiritual experience otherwise can happen as I said already through psychedelics or through a real near-death experience some sort of crisis be it a nutritional crisis be it an injury be it an accident but if you do not want to go to that extreme simply sitting in silence and observing your thoughts and letting them go and returning to your inner world so to speak will give you a spiritual experience. This is what the sages have done over the millennia. They all go into seclusion. Even if you look at the prophets, the prophet Muhammad may peace be upon him, he goes into the cave and this is where he goes within so to speak. This is where he is in seclusion and this is where he receives the revelation of the angel Gabriel. Jesus Christ, may peace be upon him, he goes into the desert where he's tempted, etc., etc. You always have the same stories of people going into nature and going into seclusion. So if you're really after such an experience, you should go out and seek it. Of course, he who seeketh shall find, right? This is what your Bible says as well. You cannot expect to simply sit at home and be super analytical and super rational and then wait for an experience to happen. It's not going to happen. It's as if I would say well I want to be a bodybuilder. This is really how I would see that the body is formable is if I would become a bodybuilder. Yeah. Okay. Then go to the gym and do what you need to do. I cannot sit at home and read about bodybuilding and then expect bodybuilding to happen to me. It's not going to work. like a, you know, a confused ape subject to hallucinations because like [laughter] like when when I meet people who've had religious experiences and they say like I met I spoke to someone just the other day who said that she met Jesus, she gave him a hug and I'm like I can imagine somehow your brain tricking you into that experience or something maybe. I don't know. But if I met Jesus physically embodied, gave him a hug and afterwards was convinced that that's what actually happened. even if my brain was just going haywire, there's just no way that I'm that I'm going to just dismiss that. I'm gonna I'm gonna believe in in Jesus, right? And so, if that happens, then it happens. >> So, it needs to be an experience. But it >> was a metaphorical hug or an actual tangible hug. >> As far as I know, she she she like actually like people report. >> And what was he wearing? Was he wearing contemporary clothing or like an Aramaic robe? >> That's the thing that's annoying. I didn't get the chance to ask because I'm always fascinated like what what do you mean like did he knock on the door? Did he appear? Like >> how tall was he? Cuz wasn't the historical Jesus probably like 5'1? We don't know. But there is an interesting part. You know, Zakius has to climb up a tree to see Jesus because he's short. There's there's a story. >> Jesus is short or Zakius. >> That's the question. It's ambiguous in the Greek. I mean, it's quite clear like it's probably implying that Zakius is short. But just interestingly, it could be the case, you know, the the Greek >> the average height back then of >> but even even for average because it says that like Jesus is preaching and and it says that Zakius had to climb up a tree because he couldn't see Jesus because he was short. And the implication is that Zakius is short. It could mean >> it could be that Jesus short as well. You know, that's quite funny. We don't know. Of course, >> which is another reason why the Pharisees >> Witten by Jesus as the Messiah. >> Yeah. Well, it would it would be in keeping with the idea of Jesus being born into a sort of life of of poverty and being, you know, aesthetic and and all this kind of stuff cuz, you know, maybe he's maybe he was a short king, short king of the Jews. >> All right, guys. And that's it for today's video. Absolutely no wonder that Imm Ghazali got so frustrated by listening to the philosophers of his time. Really, if you hear this, I mean, what was this truly? We're just sitting in a room and smelling our own farts talking about Jesus Christ and potentially here and potentially there. And we're going to believe about Jesus the things that we want to believe about him, but not the things that are said about him, not the things that the church says about him, but I'm going to be a Christian because I don't want to believe in Islam. It makes no sense at all. So you basically believe that Jesus Christ was a historical figure. In the end, he says that he was the short king of the Jews. Okay, whatever, dude. You don't want to believe that he was God. You don't want to believe in his resurrection. But then at the same time, you want to believe in Christianity, even though you don't believe in any tenant of Christianity whatsoever. You simply believe in Christianity culturally then because you're from the UK, because you're British. So after your big exploration of philosophy and atheism, you come back to your culture. you become an Englishman essentially like the rest of your country a bunch of people that are culturally Christian but they simply do not believe in the tenants of Christianity they do hate Islam however because Islam is actually adhering to their religion and they believe in the religion which Christians don't so therefore you are now pursuing to become a cultural Christian like the rest of your country which means ultimately that you had absolutely no progress in your critical thinking whatsoever look how amazing this is truly you are seen by many people nowadays online as some sort of great thinker of our time, some new age philosopher and whatn not. And basically your conclusion is that of the common man. There is no progress in your thinking whatsoever at all. When you were younger in your early 20s or whatever, you were a bit edgy like all of those atheists, right? Trying to dismantle religion and now you see that there is utility in religion, but at the same time you do understand that there is some sort of utility for you in liberalism. And therefore, you're not willing to fully commit to religion at all. you're simply to commit to modern-day values, humanitarianism, altruism, utilitarianism, etc., etc. And in that pursuit, you simply show how disingenuous you are because you dare to claim then that Christianity has more historical proof, even though you don't accept the historical proof. You don't accept that Jesus Christ resurrected from the dead. You simply go by the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. And when Muslims tell you that yes, there will be historical evidence for the crucifixion according to Islam as well, you will simply ignore that of course and go back to Christianity. Yet again, this is what people do nowadays. They are self-declared Christians, but they cherrypick. None of them believes in the trinity. None of them believe that Jesus Christ is God. None of them believe that Jesus Christ raised from the dead, even though this is a tenant of Christianity. When Christians meet for Eastern, especially the Orthodox Christians, the Catholics, they say that Jesus has risen. In Orthodox Christianity, they say Christos anest, right? This is a pillar of the belief system. This is the good news that your God overcame death. I personally, of course, do not believe that. But this is what Christians believe. This is what they celebrate. And if you don't believe this, you're not a Christian. You simply are a liberal with a Christian cultural background. So therefore, yet again, nothing changed about you. Your whole pursuit on YouTube was futile. Anyways guys, this is it for today's video. If you enjoyed it, leave it a thumbs up. Subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. Check out the links in the description box below to further support my work. And as always, may God bless you all. 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